On Friday’s Real Time, Bill Maher welcomed his “friend” Kellyanne Conway, the conservative pollster whose star has risen from appearances on Maher’s Politically Incorrect in 1996 to the title of Donald Trump‘s campaign manager. The host grilled his longtime guest about how she could be “enabling pure evil.”
“Now you’re perhaps the most important person in the world, because you seem to be the only person who’s been able to tame Donald Trump,” Maher told Conway. “Many have tried, but only you were able to pull that sword from the stone. How did you do it?”
It was also revealed that Trump persuaded Conway to appear on Maher’s show – even though the mogul unsuccessfully sued the host in the past – in order to reach Real Time‘s undecided, middle class viewers. However, Maher used Conway’s visit via satellite to paint Trump as a liar who would say anything to achieve success, as detailed in Trump’s book The Art of the Deal.
“I’ll tell you why I’m getting nervous, and I’ll do it with a Donald Trump quote from The Art of the Deal. He said, ‘I play to people’s fantasies. People want to believe something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole,'” Maher said. “I call it lying.” Maher then recited some of the lies Trump has told on the campaign trail.
For her part, Conway stood steadfastly behind Trump, never wavering under the barrage of Maher’s scrutiny and questioning. She alluded to Clinton’s 2008 collapse against Barack Obama, and her near-collapse against Bernie Sanders, as precedent for the Democratic candidate’s receding momentum, which has allowed Donald Trump to retake leads in important swing states.
“The Democrats, I know you’re stuck with a lemon here, with 55 days to go and we’re surging, and I’m sorry for that, because she has never been someone who recaptures momentum,” Conway said. “We see Gary Johnson and in fact Jill Stein taking votes away from her. She’s floundering at 42, 44 percent… the majority of Americans think that she doesn’t tell the truth, she’s not honest or trustworthy, and the majority don’t quite like her.”
As Conway later noted, both she and Maher’s birthday – January 20th – lands on what’s scheduled to be the inauguration of the next president, ensuring that one would likely have a better birthday than the other.