With a GOP debate scheduled for Wednesday, Roger Waters won’t be throwing his support behind Donald Trump. The outspoken former Pink Floyd member and architect behind The Wall tells Rolling Stone during a soon-to-be-published, in-depth interview about his upcoming concert film, Roger Waters The Wall, that the businessman and Republican presidential candidate is “the epitome of anything that might be considered bad” and “entrepreneurship gone wrong.”
Waters admits he has been amused by Trump’s ideas, but only to a point. “I have [laughed] except it’s not funny that he’s as popular as he is,” Waters says. “His ideas [are] not outlandish at all. It’s American exceptionalism gone crazy and delivered under the umbrella of absolute ignorance. He is pig-ignorant and he always was and he always will be. He lives in the illusion that he’s admirable in some way. And obviously for somebody like me, he stands for everything that is not admirable in American society.”
Trump has been campaigning across the country with the slogan “Let’s Make America Great Again,” an idea Waters takes exception to. “‘It’s the worst possible slogan anybody could ever come up with,” he says. “It’s silly and disgusting as well, unless they wanted to hark back to the potential. If the Founding Fathers hadn’t been so up their own asses, they might have come up with a system that fell somewhere between republican democracy that was going to work and that had proper checks and balances to prevent it disintegrating into what it has become, which is a country for sale to the highest bidder with the Supreme Court at the top of it, who’s appointed by the highest bidder eventually.”
Waters cited the businessman’s media exposure as the reason Trump is so popular. “The mainstream media in this country tend only to report a very limited section of ideas and views,” he adds. “So it’s perfectly understandable why people would believe Donald Trump’s nonsense, because it’s important to the 1 percent to propagate and disseminate these theories and these system beliefs in order to retain control. It’s organized theft on a giant level, a huge scale, and is extremely efficient and well-organized.”
Trump’s desire to build a wall on the Mexican border and fellow GOP candidate Scott Walker’s suggestion of a Canadian wall also irks Waters, who notes the hypocrisy inherent in a country whose population largely descended from immigrants. “There were millions of Native Americans and you killed them all,” he said. “So the idea where, oh good, we’ve got this huge very rich thing, we’re going to keep everybody … no you’re not. It’s a joke. There’s no possible way. It’s called osmosis. Human beings will travel.
“Osmosis is the movement of molecules from an area of high concentration to an area of lower concentration through a semipermeable membrane; well, you can build any wall you like and it’s still semipermeable and it always will be,” Waters adds. “And people will always go. If they’re poor as shit over there and they think you’re rich, they will move across the border and why shouldn’t they?”
Returning to the topic of his upcoming concert film, the singer-songwriter said he hoped people looked at it as a bonding experience. “If people see this movie, what I hope is that when they’ve seen it, they may look at one another and even come out and go, ‘You know what? We are a community and we are many,'” he said. “‘There are a lot of us.'”