When we worked with the Jacksons, they'd just left Motown and signed with Epic. Michael was about 17 years old, and he wanted to write songs and learn how to produce, so we brought him into all of the sessions. As a kid, he was always happy, so [producing partner Leon] Huff came up with the title of [the Jackson 5 song] "Think Happy."
Years later, Michael called me when he was going through the trial and said he wanted to talk, so I went to meet him in New York – I remember they had put a dance floor in his hotel suite, so he could practice his steps. It broke his heart when people turned against him. It made him more reclusive. He felt like he couldn't trust people.