While Swift was reluctant to go into detail about the incident in a cover story for the British music magazine, she said: “I don’t want to talk about it. But I send text messages now. If there seems to be some kind of misunderstanding, I go to someone’s management, I get their number and I text them. It’s an important lesson for anyone to learn in 2015.”
Minaj received numerous VMA nods this year for her “Anaconda” clip, but was shut out of the Video of the Year category. After the snub, she took to Twitter and wrote, “If your video celebrates women with very slim bodies, you will be nominated for vid of the year. I’m not always confident. Just tired. Black women influence pop culture so much, but are rarely rewarded for it.”
With three men (Kendrick Lamar, Ed Sheeran and Mark Ronson) and one black woman (Beyoncé) filling out the Video of the Year category, many assumed the tweet was directed at Swift, whose nominated “Bad Blood” video boasted an assortment of “women with very slim bodies.” Swift interpreted Minaj’s comments in the same way, and chastised the rapper on Twitter saying, “It’s unlike you to pit women against each other.”
Minaj, however, replied, “U must not be reading my tweets. Didn’t say a word about u,” prompting an apology from Swift, who admitted: “I missed the point, I misunderstood, then misspoke.” The pair seemed to fully bury the hatchet when Swift joined Minaj onstage at the VMAs for her opening medley.
Elsewhere in the NME interview, Swift spoke about her budding friendship with Kanye West, and recalled hearing a Beck song while out to dinner with the rapper. At this year’s Grammys, West had pretended to storm the stage after Beck’s Morning Phase beat Beyoncé self-titled LP for Album of the Year, like he infamously did to Swift after she topped Bey for Best Female Video at the 2009 VMAs.
“I was at dinner with Kanye a week after the Grammys. He stops what he’s saying and he goes, ‘What is this song? I need to listen to this every day.'” Swift recalled. “I said, ‘It’s Beck, it’s on an album called Morning Phase, I think you’ve heard of it…’ We just burst out laughing. And he says, ‘Hey, sometimes I’m wrong.'”