In new songs like “Digging Up the Heart” or “Dreams Come True,” it feels like it’s sort of a race to get to the chorus, and keeps you on the edge of your seat.
There’s that famous Petty thing: “Don’t bore us, get to the chorus.” I think the Stones are really great at getting to the chorus really quickly, and all kinds of people. I learned from people like Chuck Berry. Elton John is sort of the king of that, where the parts just keep coming, and they just keep getting better, and you can’t believe that the next part is going to be better than the last one. And he’s up there, in a lot of my pop sensibility or my writing sensibility.
Is it harder to write songs from a desperate place as you get older?
I don’t feel too far removed from that person that I was when I was sort of an obsessive teenager, or sometimes possessive or whatever it was. So I think some of those traits, whether you get over them are not, they are still lingering, and it’s not too difficult for me to draw from those past experiences.
I put my foot in my mouth quite a bit in the early days.
What goes through your head when you turn on the radio?
You hear a lot of blending of different genres, and that’s great. But the bands that were around when the Killers first came out 10 years ago – the Strokes, Franz Ferdinand, Interpol – all had a strong identity. I don’t hear that as much, I guess. That’s the best way to put it.
You had lunch with Mitt Romney, a fellow Mormon, during his campaign, right?
You know, he was a nice guy. I don’t have anything bad to say about him. I think he’s a leader, and I think he would have been a great president.
It sounds like you picked up some cues from Lorde on this record. Are you a fan?
Yeah. There’s something really bold about how bare her songs are. That sort of minimalism is a good route – but if you’re going to strip it down like that, the song better be really good.
And you have a couple of Killers dates coming up.
It’s exciting. We’re coming off of the Battle Born tour, and I just look back on those shows, it was so much fun. The shows just kept getting better, and there are more people at the shows than ever before. And it’s just growing and settling in with people, and they’re lasting. And I’m really proud of that. I’m also just excited to add to the songs. I can’t wait for the next Killers record and to go do it again.
There’s always so much speculation about you guys, “They’re on hiatus,” or “They’re gone for the foreseeable future.”
I get it. There are a couple of remarks made by Dave [Keuning], our guitar player, that made it sound a little bit more ominous than it really was. And so it makes people wonder. But, no, everything is fine. I’ve been talking to Dave, and he hasn’t sounded this excited about making music in a long time. So that, in turn, makes me excited. I feel like when he’s at his best, and when we’re all collaborating, is when the Killers are at their best, and that’s what we really need. I’ve said it before – I think we need a little bit of a kick in the pants, and hopefully it’s coming.
What do you mean?
You hear the phrase, “It’s like riding a bike.” You get back together, and it can become just sort of too cyclical. It’s like, “Oh, it’s time to get back together, we’re making a record, then we go on tour.” And it’s this big sort of machine, now. And we really need to find a way to get a little bit of that drive and that hunger back that we had earlier on, and not just look at it as an opportunity to make more money and make a record and go tour. [Laughs] And it’s great to make money, but I want to walk on that stage and feel like I belong there, and feel like I have something to offer. And that’s he most important thing.
You said recently, “There’s definitely a drive that we’re lacking.”
You want a band. I want to feel like we’re together, and I might just be guilty as anybody else, of being sort of duped by just seeing a picture of guys and assuming everything is perfect and they’re just a band of brothers making music. But that’s what I want, and that’s the goal, and that’s what we all want. I want us to get back to that place, and the people that want to get together and take on the world. And when I think of INXS or U2 or the Stones, those are the things that come to my mind. They knew what they wanted to do, and did it.
What needs to happen to achieve that?
I don’t know yet. [Laughs] But I am excited. Like I said, Dave is sounding like he’s really excited, and that’s a start. Ron’s ready. Ron’s got his sticks, they’re probably in his back pocket now.
By the way, you’re following six people on Twitter, and none of them are in the Killers!
[Laughs] Are they on there?