That’s really fucked up.

AC/DC without Bon, GN’R without Slash, or AIC without Layne = fair enough since they didn’t do the lion’s share of the writing.

Nirvana without Kurt, Weezer without Rivers, or Sublime without Brad = are you effing kidding me!?

Shame on “Not Sublime”.

It seems wrong that one person can lay claim to a name that involves an entire band. Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley did it. Axl Rose did it. If you were or are an original member and contributed to the process, how can one person take claim to the name of the group? It is selfish, but it is a business decision. It leaves a bad taste to the fans. They should rename themselves after the damn dog.

now, i dont think they should have called this new reunion sublime because it is obviously not the same thing. however, i doubt that brad would b angry with those guys for tryin to make a living by playin great music

I’m glad someone is putting a stop to this. Brad was the main song writer, singer and guitarist. Simply put there is no Sublime with out him. I would never spend a cent to see this band…I would consider it if they were called something else however.

Sublime was crap anyway. Who would want to revisit that?

If anything they should allow it cause it could wind up being a bit of money made and since the name was trademarked they could get a share of the profits from the shows.

I think 10 some years is more than enough time for people to realize the guy is dead and there would be no confusion.

We wouldn’t want to damage the “legacy” of a junkie.

Who are they to tell those guys what they can and cannot do?

So much for honoring him, you just turned his memory into a Bank account. That is all this is about.

It seems that if Brad specifically said “don’t use the name Sublime, unless I am included” then they should know better. Both parties can be blamed on this one in regards to it being a $$$$ issue.

Go out and play music. Shit…play Sublime’s music too. But don’t call it Sublime…because it is not!

I think that we need to hear the music again. I was only 12 at the time Brad passed and the music is like a flash back to life as a kid. let Brad live on in the hearts of all who loved him and what he did in the music. Can’t fignt angeast the youth cuz were strong!

So the band members were smart enough to form Long Beach Dub All Stars and still play the music 10 years ago but they suddenly got amnesia?

Did something change since 2001 when they broke up that I am not aware of?

They didn’t go on performing as Sublime when he died because they knew better. What they figured out is that people wont pay to see LB Dub All Stars but they will pay A LOT of money to see Sublime.

Plain and simple. New name and everyone is happy. They probably only got booked because of the name Sublime.

Brad IS Sublime.

And i youtubed bud and eric performing with Rome, and they took out ALL the ska. it’s rather disappointing. it’s not the same.
xoxo; RIP Bradley<3

Who is Sublime?
Dubar’s comment is right on.
The family is trying to make it about them. It wasn’t, it isn’t.

A rose is a rose by any other name.

Who can really blame these guys for wanting to continue their career? It’s not exactly their fault that their ability to make money from their hard work and talent was hamstrung by Brad Nowell’s death. I mean, I love Brad and I think he was one of the most unique talents in rock history, but he selfishly chose drugs over his family, his friends, his band, and his music. (And don’t give me any crap about how hard it is to overcome addiction– he made his choice long before he was an addict when he took his first hit! You roll the dice with drugs, you’re coming up snake eyes every time).
Brad might have written the songs, but Bud and Eric helped turn those songs into Sublime. I think 13 years is more than enough time to wait and let Bradley’s legacy solidify. Somebody should be playing this music live. It’s either those two, or some godawful Sublime tribute band!
As for Nowell’s family claiming to want to protect “Sublime’s legacy.” *cough*”bullsh–”cough* It’s obviously about money for them. Otherwise they would have protested when Bud and Eric performed Sublime songs as the Long Beach Dub All-Stars.
My guess is that Brad’s wish would simply be for as many people as possible to get a chance to hear the music.

they should be able to play some tribute shows as Sublime if they damn well please. I doubt Bradley would have any problem with it. This is ridiculous.

call it SUBLIME 2.0 i don’t care. i just think it’s a little odd that brad’s family release this statement the day before the show. they must have known something about this for a couple of months. needless to say i will be at show tomorrow enjoying the music!

SUBLEMON

Who cares? Sublime sucks anyway

Snake eyes huh. Take drugs out of rock and roll and you get choir music. No thanks.

A Non E Muss hit it right on the head.

and btw, if you dont like sublime there is something wrong with you, not sublime. they were amazing musicians that managed to produce equally amazing art. if you dont respect sublime your opinions on music are null.

When people think of sublime they think of bradley nowell, but no one can blame these guys for wanting to play the music they wrote, When freddie mercury died, queen still went under the queen name, although i was apposed to them being called sublime at first I think they have the right to have a reunion under the name “sublime”. Alice and Chains has a new singer and they are still Alice in Chains, although if they make new music I hope its not under the Sublime name

also to the dude above me. i agree with you to a point. you cant take drugs out of music. but when your drug use means you cant keep making that music you have to draw a line. i recognize that there are so many great bands (sublime included) that wouldnt be the same with out some one using heroin (eg AIC, pantera, nirvana, megadave, etc), but the same drug also destroyed many of their careers. drugs and music absolutely go hand in hand, and seem to make for better music pretty much always, but heroin, 9 times out of 10 ends in a loss.

This,(the united states) is the only country where a dead person can sue you and keep you from making money for doing what you love in a band that you are involved in. This is crap! Music, man it’s all about the music, dudes dead let it go.

I don’t listen to Sublime much, so I have no opinion on their music, but I’m on Brad Nowell’s family’s side on this one. Brad registered the band’s name as his own, so that pretty much sets it in stone that he would not want for the band to perform under the name without him, whether they broke up or he died. Second, no one is restricting them from playing Sublime songs live, they just can’t do it under the Sublime name. Why can’t they respect that? If he wouldn’t have minded, he wouldn’t have made a move that would restrict usage of the name without him. They should have considered challenging Brad on registering the name as his own if they wanted to perform as Sublime without always needing his permission to do so in case they were no longer a band with him. Third, Queen and Alice in Chains are rather poor examples to use, as neither Freddie Mercury nor Layne Stanley trademarked their band’s names as their own. So their estates can’t raise a stink about the surviving band members continuing to perform under same name with a new lead singer. Legally, both bands are within their rights to do so. However, Sublime isn’t. And band isn’t really the same when it’s not the same group performing, especially when it’s a different lead singer. So keeping the name is… well I personally feel is… kinda wrong. But at the same time, I also feel it was wrong for Brad to claim ownership of the band name. He didn’t have much faith in his band if he did that. You’re a BAND, that means you function as a UNIT, I don’t think it’s right for one member to own the rights to the name, cause then it means that he can kick anyone else out of the band and replace them. Pretty much like Guns N Roses. Axl Rose owns the rights to the names, and that’s how he’s gotten away with performing under the GNR name even though he’s the only original member.

How about “Almost Sumblime” or “Sumblime -1″

Sublemon anyone?

All about the money, very sad!

Not cool. If they loved music enough, they would have had a shit ton by now. They are lazy people that want the easy way out. Thats like trying to restart nirvana or the doors. Dont tarnish the legacy because you bored and dont feel like making new music under a diffrent name. Now the true sublime fans will hate you.

Yes Brad was without a doubt much of the Soul of Sublime. With his lyrics and style on the guitar, Bud’s rhythmic drum melodies, and Eric’s groovin ass bass lines, they really put it all together. Nobody has any doubt that it would not be the same show without Bradley Nowell. Anyone going to see one of these shows is going to be singin at the top of their lungs, and dancin their souls out, all in honor and remembrance of Brad. I really can’t see him having a problem with this, he was all about the love, all about the good times.
There will never be a Sublime concert without Brad’s soul there. Now if this band wants to start writing some new material and laying down tracks an album, they’d better damn well get a new name.

These are my thoughts.

-JB

Reading The news about this hurts me greatly.. There music has and forever will be about love and is timeless.. I understand That Brad has passed and we all mourn the loss of him and for his family.. But Bud and Eric are not just trying to make money! They are trying to continue a legacy that has touched many hearts including mine! The family has a right to have maybe sour feelings.. but.. Give it a rest! Let Bradly live out through Bud Eric and “Rome”. Again I am very saddened to read this! Sometimes when things hurt, you just gotta look forward. Maybe what they think is right is not right.. I think Brad is looking down with tears in his eyes at this moment.

it really is all about the music and the love! I feel very distraught and unfortunate to grow up in the times that i have. People are twisted! and if you really wanna get down to it. The Family has been making royalties since Brad’s very sad death! You know and I know it! Please dont shake me or anybody else up with these legal battles! that is for the unloving!

There is no Sublime without Brad. Whats wrong with Eric and Bud using a different name?

One thing I think the estate is forgetting is that although the band was the three guys, the music they made was sort of a community thing. There were always so many people around and involved, and it wasn’t just one person that made this music work. Sublime’s music in particular has never been about only Brad – were he here today, I think he’d probably agree and would understand what these guys are doing. They always had friends jam with them, or record songs with them – this is a continuation of that, and I think we could use it right now.

How about, “Band that had one or two hits”?

I’d bet dollars to donuts that if the remaining members offered to give the Estate 1/3 of the profits, then the estate would have no objection. I have a hard time believing that they object solely on the grounds of Brad not being involved.

If you’ve ever been in a band then you know it’s not just one person that makes the music. They have every right to play Sublime songs under the Sublime name. However if they decide to write new material it should be under a different name.

how about ‘If I Hear What I Got One More Time, I Am Going To Shoot Myself’. That’s a good name.

Ok, look, sublime sucks and always sucked. They were an overhyped bar band that for some reason cashed in on the nineties explosion of radio hits. I really am sorry that the guy died though and everything, regardless of if they suck or not, that is a sad thing. But seriously, who cares about this band? They are not good. They have a cover band that is practically more popular than the original sublime. And they suck too.

To those who say this whole drama is only about money… You are absolutely right. However, I feel that Eric and Bud have every right in the world to “cash in” on the Sublime name. The fact is, each member of Sublime was poised to make a sh*t pile of money, but Brad’s overdose killed that. This is not meant to disrespect Brad, but his selfishness ruined his friends’ careers (I know about the selfishness of addiction, I’m a former junkie). If you built a business from the ground up with two other people and one of them died, would you allow that person’s family to tell you you can no longer make a living from a business you built? Hells no. Eric and Bud have been nothing if not respectful of Brad and his family for almost 15 years. No doubt Brad’s family has made millions off the man. Let them go out, honor their friend, rip it up, and sock away a nice retirement while they’re at it.

Sublime haters are pathetic. It’s always funny to me that people who have contributed nothing musically in their lives feel comfortable dissing someone who created a massive body of work that still means something to people today. There are some songwriters who’s music I don’t get, but I don’t rag on them. In an age where so many so called ‘artists’ don’t even write their own songs, I find this attitude to be despicable. Shame on you and your pathetic musical worldview.

Shame on those scumbags hating on Sublime. I’m sorry, but what have you contributed to the world? Wait “sublime sucks…” don’t answer, we already know it’s NOTHING. As for the band, I wish they would have kept it as LBDAS, since Brad said not to use the name and he was the primary songwriter. Alice in Chains it’s different, because Lasyne didn’t write much of the music, Jerry did.

Sublime left the proud legacy of being the soundtrack for every shitty frat boy bar since 1997

I don’t care what they call it. Sublime is Eric, Bud, and Brad. I am sure Brad wasn’t thinking of his own passing when he trademarked the group name. The mere fact that eric and bud are back together playing sublime music is amazing and exciting, and the nowell family should be proud that Brad’s music still lives on. Furthermore, they should be honored by the passion at which fans have demanded it. There are countless Sublime imitators, but no duplicators…so make it happen, and called it SUBLIME

I think that the band was great, and this is a power play br the family. Its is about $$$. Everything is to some degree. When the remaining memebers did Long Beach Dub All-Stars the Nowell Family did not have a problem, plus they did all the songs they wanted, they even released an album. I do not think they should use the name since it will never be the same without Bradley. But they should honor him thru the music. In the end the songs are going to sound the way they are going too no matter what they call themsleves. So you have to ask the question of what is in it for either side. I say if it makes this many waves, just use another name. Just keep the mussic going and maybe someone who never heard of them will discover the music and read up on what Sublime used to be and what they are now.

Music for druggies by druggies. Pathetic junkie dies. Who cares?

I thought Nowell WAS Sublime wasnt he? The lead signer, guitar player and song writer…How can a bass player and drummer think they are going to carry on with Sublime? Bass and Drums are not even real instruments…

So what if Sublime has reformed with Brad Nowell? I think Brad would’ve wanted the group to go on. Alice In Chains goes on without Layne Staley, The Doors did it without Jim Morrison, the Dead continue on without Jerry Garcia-groups prove that they can still endure, even if a key member of the band has passed on. And anyone who thinks different needs to get the fuck over it!

sublimes music should go on. if bradley were alive they’d still be rocking. so they should still be rocking in his memory and bringing sublime out.

I fail to the any “jump” in his piece. The statements are IMMEDIATELY below the line regarding “the jump” so there was, in fact, NO jump. DUMP THE JUMP.

For starters, Sublime sucked.

But, the band should be free to use the name Sublime. They were part of the band. They helped create and shape the sound.

Furthermore, it was Brad’s narcissistic, negligent, and destructive use of heroin that killed himself. His irresponsible death caused the other members of Sublime to have their careers cut drastically short. It caused untold grief and cheated them out of a very lucrative recording contract and touring career.

In conclusion, screw his stupid, over zealous, out of touch, egotistical family. Sublime is the band’s legacy too, not just Brad’s.

well i happen to see SUBLIME yesterday at the smokeout. and i have to say that it gave me chills. just hearing those lyrics and that guitar playing live gave me goosebumps. i cant help that some of you will be angry. but i have to say that it had the same energy that bradley would bring. i got to see sublime when i was in high school and i have to say that there was little different. all in all i have to say that SUBLIME is back to stay.

I THINK ITS FUCKING AWESOME.

IF BRAD COULD LEAN DOWN FROM HEAVEN HE WOULD GIVE YOU THE OK.

It’s really sad Brad’s family and Sublime’s ex-”management” team would try to stop something that’s beneficial to everyone, including Jakob. They should be ashamed for being so greedy and stupid.

It’s amazing those who side with Babylon (the labels) don’t want to see a band like this progress and celebrate. That’s like all you folks in this whole Wailers situation. Bob Marley lives through his group The Original Wailers even though he wrote he wanted ALL his band members to write the music. You Give musicians Like Brad and Bob Marley more credit than they deserve. Bob Marley was just one member of a group called “The Wailers” it came straight from the Lion’s mouth (Research it). Same with Brad… he was just a member of a group called “Sublime.”

Good luck boys!

It’s not fucked up. I can see where they would find it reasonable to get Sublime back together. Even if Brad is gone, Bud and Eric won’t take the band anywhere that Brad wouldn’t have gone. That’s what the Long Dub Beach All Stars were for

Forever Sublime, Sublime Forever! The pressure is now on. Rome you got yourself some proving to do. Make Brad proud. I know that he will be happy with it one way or another. I don’t think that Brad wanted to take the rights away from Bud and Eric. I just think he wanted to keep it out of the hands of other posers.

“So let the words of our mouths and the meditation of our hearts, be acceptable in your sight”

The period of mourning will never be over for some of us, but still we want the music to live on.

Good Luck with the beats and the funky bass lines!

And furthermore Susan, as far as copyright goes. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if all 2 remaining band members habitually use the name Sublime for the here to eternity. Long Live Sublime.

unreal. i’ve got news for the nowell estate, that shit was deemed all of their property as soon as they put out a record that gave all of them credit under sublime. good luck w/ that.

just alter the name slightly. sublyme. sublemon. whatever

In my opinion I would think that Brad would have no objections to this “reunion”. I think Bud and Erics’ happiness is something he held close to his heart and for the Family to try to shut this down is not right. Brad, Bud and Eric were Sublime. Don’t get me wrong there will NEVER be another Brad but people Rome is pretty damn good. So, I will embrace this and hope they tour.

I saw sublime yesterday I haven’t been able to say that in 14 years. Thank You Bud, Eric, Rome, I had a blast you topped my list best show ever long live SUBLIME !!!!

The bottom line is Bud and Eric are 2/3 of Sublime. They decide. Its simple math.

What really needs be decided is what best for his son. If you forget about the greed/money and just think about what is best for this young man the decision would be simple. These guys dont want to make a ton of money, they never did. And Brad was all about getting the art to the people. All of you who say this and that about Bud and Eric have missed the point, totaly. Hate all you want, and if Brad was here he would be all over you for talking trash about his “brothers”.

What bud and eric need to do is get all the guys from the LBDA back together. they were a really good follow up to sublime

if they had continued playing directly after Brad’s death, I’d be upset, but its been 13 freakin’ years, and they did help write those songs.

At first, I felt… How can you have Sublime with out Brad? Then I heard the band with Rome… The kid is GREAT!! Bradly would be proud. Rome really does do right be Brad. They are Sublime; they are great with Rome. They don’t need to change the name to something else. Rome gave Sublime back it’s heart. He’s a good kid, his heart is in the right place, and Bud and Eric know best when it comes to someone else singing. For those of us who actually saw Sublime play in backyards and crappy clubs, Sublime wasn’t all about Bradley, it was about the band. Rome, Eric, and Bud… They are Sublime.

ya all you who believe they are trash just keep it to urself. no one cares about ur horrible music choices. i totally agree that it should be the decisions of bud and eric, they helped to write the music and they are 2/3 of the band! the musics great and should continue. i havent heard them with rome but im excited to in the future!

ya all you who believe they are trash just keep it to urself. no one cares about ur horrible music choices. i totally agree that it should be the decisions of bud and eric, they helped to write the music and they are 2/3 of the band! the musics great and should continue. i havent heard them with rome but im excited to in the future!

I’m pretty sure that anyone who dislikes sublime is a slipknot fan or an “indie” fan who’s just trying to be edgy. LOL zing LOL11!!!!1!

for god sakes people! sublime is sublime. its a fucking name and jeff you need to accept that! personally i think theyre doing good so STFU PEOPLE!!! also @maki A NAME DOSENT CHANGE SHIT!!! THEYLL STILL BE SUBLIME! also @mjr sublime is THEIR band. they chose the name so they should have a right to use it!

I have heard Rome’s new music, which he is probably writing for sublime, and sure he sounds a little bit like Bradley, but he does not have soul and scream like Brad. Don’t get me wrong, hes talented but, i am a musician and i work in music business. Why can’t people see that they reunited just for the instant fame and money.

Call it bumSlie, anyone who actually knows Sublime’s recording history will get it it and screw the nay-sayers. Oppressing the message with legal mumbo jumbo because they don’t get any more money for still not doing any work.

In the 80’s lawyers were’nt running this country now everthing has to be a fckn lawsuit!Let’s get back on track,move forward!Let the 2 OG members and new frontman jam and let Sublime live!!!!

whens the show?

alot of you guys are haters. its not cool. if the nowell estate really wants to fight bud and eric they should just rename the band to s*bime or somethin like that so they can just play the “sweet reggae music.”

I honestly think the family has a write to protect Brads music under the name “sublime” if they want to go around and sing “sublime” songs under that name then fine. But the problem is when they write a new album under sublime. Brads legacy gets intertwined with this new band. As much as i want to hear their new music i think they should give it a similar name. Its seems like what they have done. Sublime w/rome.

Rome is good, but he doesn’t have that growly passion that brad had, Rome writes good music and i think they will do well. But nobody will touch bradly. He is singing from his toes.

sublime take every bad quality about music in the 1990’s and roll it up into one big ball of crap. the fact that his family has been milking his legacy of garbage music is sad enough, but now lawsuits over the former members carrying on?

whatever..

funny i sat and watch eric perform and write songs…no one know the truth

let them play under the name find a way for it to work out they are going to play go music.

AFTER JUST NOW READING (BUD GAUGH)BEHALF OF THIS COMPLICATING SITUATION I DO AGREE WITH (BUD&ERIC)CAUSE IT IS A TRUE GIVIN FACT THAT NO MATTER WHAT CONTINUES ON WITH SUBLIME ITS THEIR WORD AGAINST YOURS. AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WILL WIN ON THIS “STUPID FUKIN THREATEN LEGAL ACTION”THAT THEY HAVE PUT THEM ON. SHIT, THINK ABOUT IT THEIR ALREADY STRUGGLING ON WITHOUT BRADLEY, SO WHY BRING MORE PAIN?

I AM A LIFE LONG SUBLIME FAN. ERIC, BUD and BRAD ARE ALL “SUBLIME”. ERIC WILSON IS THE MUSICAL GENIUS BEHIND THE TRIO. HE PLAYS VARIOUS INSTRUMENTS, HAS STUDIED MUSIC AND IS JUST COOL DADDY WITH THAT BASS GUITAR. “BUD” IS A GOOD DRUMMER, AND IS A GOOD PERFORMER LIVE. “BUD” IS THE TOUGH GUY OUT OF THE GROUP AND THE ONE WHO WAS ALWAYS SMACKING BRADLEY BACK INTO REALITY WHEN HE’D GO OFF ON A JUNKIE RAMPAGE. BRAD WAS A SINGER & GUITARIST. BUT IF YOU DID NOT KNOW, HE USUALLY WAS TO STONED OR DRUNK TO PLAY THE INSTRUMENT LIVE AND FREQUENTLY NEED A “FILL-IN” WHILE HE TRIED TO REMEMBER THE LYRICS. MOST SUBLIME SONGS ARE COVERS OF OTHER BAND’S ORIGINAL MUSIC. SO THERE SHOULD BE NO ARGUMENT OF BRADLEY BEING A GREAT SONG WRITER OR THEREFORE BEING THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF SUBLIME. HE WAS GOOD THOUGH AND UNTIL I WAS KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE FACTS I THOUGHT HE WAS GREAT!!! BUT I AM NOW LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE LATE BRADLEY NOWELL AND UNFORTUNATELY HE LEFT BEHIND A WIFE AND CHILD, A LOVING FAMILY AND HIS TWO BEST FRIENDS….ERIC AND “BUD” WHO WERE ON THE VERGE OF HAVING GREAT MUSICAL CAREERS. CAREERS. THIS MEANS MONEY!!! MONEY FOR ALL OF THE TRIO’S HARD WORK. MONEY THEY NEVER GOT BECAUSE OF THE JUNKIE’S HABIT AND THIRST FOR THE NEEDLE AND IT’S JUICE. SHAME ON YOU BRADLEY NOWELL. ALL MY LIFE I LOOKED TO THEIR MUSIC AS A SOURCE OF HAPPINESS. BUT AS A CHILD LOOKING UP TO THESE MYTHICAL MUSICIANS I COULD NEVER SEE THE TRUTH. BUT NOW AS A MAN I AM SADDENED WHEN I THINK OF THE WASTE OF LIFE AND OF BRAD’S CHOICES THAT MANIFESTED INTO HIS DEATH.
“MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT TO THAT BOY’S FAMILY AND HIS SON JACOB”
I LOVE SUBLIME’S MUSIC AND IT WILL ALWAYS BE A PART OF MY LIFE…………………..I AM NOT MAD AT ERIC AND BUD TRYING TO PERFORM THEIR MUSIC ONCE AGAIN UNDER THE NAME SUBLIME. I HOPE THEY CAN GAIN SOME FAME AND PERHAPS MAKE SOME MONEY TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES.
I RESPECT THAT. WE ALL WANT MONEY.
AND IN MY OPINION THEY DESERVE IT!!!!!!!!!

MUCH RESPECT TO BRADLEY
YOU’LL ALWAYS BE IN MY HEART

I LISTEN TO YOUR VOICE EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE AND I KNOW YOU ARE NOT MAD AT YOUR FRIENDS.

WE MISS YOU. I MISS YOU.

“TELL ME, ARE YOU A BADFISH TOO?”

I AM.

ONE LOVE!!!!!! NEWARK NJ.

What do Miguel, Opie, Marshall think about this?