Ulrich Schnauss should be entitled to at least 50% of Chinese Democracy’s profits.

If so, Ulrich Schnauss will receive $0.00.

It’s just a sound effect.

Poor Axl. Had to start ripping others to finish that thng?

They didnt do anything wrong. It’s an effing computer effect.

Still no confirmation / denial regarding the Asian tour, eh?

What a bunch of pussies Axl and his hired hands are.

I checked out the songs claming to be ripped off, they are kind similar but obviously not copied.

PS

Shut the hell up Victoria you total fool, never post again.

If I were that Ulrich guy I wouldn’t bother suing for royalties.. I’d sue for the emotional distress suffered from knowing your song was sampled on such a extremely bad and outrageous album…

This official statement comes from a band who tried to sue Dr.Pepper..

Anyone else think that Axl Rose now looks like a weird alien trying to be a biker in some 1980s B-movie?? Damn that picture is a weird mix of funny and revolting..

Nice to know GnR vigorously does something, even if it has nothing to do with music.

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Do yourself a favor, don’t research how he looked in 2001.. Kinda like an alien trying to be a hockey player but too bloated so having to resort to track pants – sorta freaky..

Good to see that after 10 plus years in the making, Axl still needed samples.

It’s not over yet … rumours are Axl also stole somebodys schnauzer as well….

Just listened to this “Riad N’ the Bedouins”… I listen to lots of music, but I have to say that is one of the worst songs I have ever heard – WOW!

I suggest listening to just for the sheer awfulness of it. Long way from Paradise City…

lol at comments.

1.it was a 10 second intro they added to the beginning of riad. the voice seems to be saying “riad, riad, riad” they probably thought it sounded cool/similear and added it on the beginning of the song. stop acting like axl need samples to finish the aulbum / ripped off an entire song. your pathetic.

Uh… ChiDem sold well over 5 millions copies worldwide since its release… so Ulrich were to receive 50% of the royalties, he’d wouldn’t exactly be complaining much.

when the song is played for the jury, it will be a bigger audience than bought ‘Chinese Democracy”
Flop of the century. musical equivalent of star wars: episode 1

who cares about this band anymore,

Okay.

5 million copies, vs the huge 13+ year production costs, on top of promotional costs….

This album did not make a penny.

i just listened to the Ulrich Schnauss songs and they are not even remotely similar in any way, shape or form to rhiad and the bedouins…wtf? there is a similar vst effect used but in a completely different rhythm… HELLO fuck head… you can’t patent a sound

when you factor in the 13+ years of studio/production costs, and the promotion of this record, versus what it sold, Chinese Democracy did not make any money.

p.s
Axl would kick the piss outta anyone of you talentless fucks and you know it

chinese democracy has sold about 5 million copies worldwide, not 2 bad for no promotion

Great Album. I really dont think they intentionally ripped anyone off.

They all just want to make a buck,
the sample was probably ripped off a Korg or even a Casio get over it and write some real tunes. Seems they spend more time in courts then in studio or on stage.

The contested “sample” is a useless part of the song, lead-in sound effects. If Schnauss had a case, which he doesn’t, GNR wouldn’t lose anything to cut out that lame 20 seconds of noise.

I think Chinese Democracy is a great album. And I think Axl Rose still looks cool. Not being ironic either.

This reminds me of that scene from “A Few Good Men” where Kevin Pollak makes fun of Tom Cruise for strenuously objecting. “Well, if you VIGOROUSLY contest it, then I should take some time to reconsider…”

“Ulrich Schnauss should be entitled to at least 50% of Chinese Democracy’s profits.

If so, Ulrich Schnauss will receive $0.00.”

Yea, selling over a million copies of an album wouldnt make them any money…Idiot! go listen to your nerd music.

Some of you guys are idiots, who obviously haven’t listened to the songs or read the response clearly.

Clips of all the songs are on the internet. the intro of rhiad is OBVIOUSLY a direct copy and paste of the other guy’s songs, with a little pro-tools volume adjustment added to make it fit in with the GNR albums mixing.

GNR’s manager didn’t deny that the band used the sample; he said they were “obtained legitimately”. It doesn’t say that GNR “created” the sounds, they “obtained” them. Therefore, anyone saying the songs don’t sound alike either haven’t listened to the songs or haven’t read the manager’s statement properly. The manager ADMITTED that the sounds were “obtained.”

I’ve listened to Rhiad and the two clips by the other guy, and it’s pretty obvious GNR sampled the other songs.

If GNR didn’t plagiarize the sounds, then the source that they sampled may have plagiarized the sounds illegally. They may have licensed an illegal sample. That would be their only defense, if, in fact, the other dude did create the original sounds. Either that, or someone else came up with a completely identical song intro that lasts 10+ seconds and let GNR sample it. If you listen to all the clips, it’s pretty clear that GNR (intentionally or unintentionally) sampled the guy illegally.

Why the hell Axl has to spend his entire career being an insane blame-other-people-and-stay-bi tter type of dude I’ll never know.

As a fan, fuck you Axl. Slash may have been a doper at one time, but he’s not fucking crazy and bitter, like you and your ivory tower, my friends and my band are all MY EMPLOYEES bullshit. You’ve spent more time dealing with lawyers in the last 20 years than you have with music! I mean, shit man! That’s ridiculous!

Hey Belvis,
Hello Fuck Head.evidrntaly you don’t know anything about music you can copyrtght a sound.You don;t patent musical sounds you copyright them.I can sample any part of any song,chop it up,change the tempo,freak it a lil bit and make a whole song out of it.you may not even be able to tell what song it was anymore.But if you can prove it came from a sample of your song.Then it is copyright infringement,wether it is a major part of the song or something insignificant as an intro.Know what you are talking about before you try to belittle some one,then you don’t look like the Fuck head.BTW Axle Rose sucks,wether he ripped off the sample or not.

They can cut that sound effect and pay that 1 million. Nothing important. I love Chinese Democracy. It’s a awesome album. Sound & Lyrics are remarkable. The persons who don’t like it are narrow-minded. Sorry, guys.

For those who say Chinese Democracy didn’t make any money, the album cost 13 million to make, Best Buy payed 14 million for the albums they purchased, and those are only U.S. copies. The album obviously made money, please don’t post ignorant comments. As for the copyright, its a computer effect, and adjusted at that, anyone could come up with it, plus Riad has been around for like a decade.

Who cares? Why is this band still even making the news? The new album sucks, Axl is a douche and the band is irrelevant.

Look who cares, Everyone has sampled music at one point or just flat stole it. You can even look back to Elvis,Led Zep,and even the Beach Boys.It is a known fact that they stole music from the Chuck Berry,Parts of Whole Lotta Love was taken from a Willie Dixon song. So To give GNR crap is stupid. Also I have found most people that trash ChiDem have never listened to the album. If the original members played on that album everyone would think it is the greatest thing to come out since appetite.

I think the only ones that care about Guns ‘N Roses updates are Rolling Stone Magazine.

1 million dollars for that silly little effect?!? 1 dollar would be more appropriate. I’m sure Axl would even pay in cash! Think about it Ulrich. . .

You are wrong Judge Smails. It appeared in a lot of magazines too. Axl is news.

Coldplay had a similar problem. What happened?

I’m very familiar with the two Ulrich Schnauss tracks in question and after listening to the opening of “Riad N’ the Bedouins” there is absolutely zero doubt that it’s a direct sample.

What I don’t get is why it’s such a big deal. Isn’t a small amount of direct sampling OK? It might have been more respectable to give credit, but is it really illegal?

Axl Rose is a fat, Botox-faced, wig-wearin’ f–k!

What we’re talking about here is a frightened little man who once thought he was king, but unfortunately this king without his court is nothing but a memory.

I LOVED Chinese Democracy, and thought it was well worth the wait.

I’m not quite so sure that everyone dissing the album really knows what they’re talking about…people are idiots.

I loved chinese democracy as well, been a GNR fan since 1986 and I was happy with it. I love how all of you people sit her and rip on GNR, well if you think you can do better then do it. Oh wait that would mean you have to put down your “panic at the disco” or “98 Degrees” cd’s so nevermind. When you can do any better then you have a right to speak, until then SHUT THE FUCK UP

Are you GNR fans deaf? Have you heard this “Riad” song?? It is one of the worst songs I’ve listened to.. How can u even defend the song? I recommend that ppl listening to it just to hear how awful it is…

have you heard how good the new album so what oyur say is the this i love witch in my books is just as good as november rain or sorry or better with the people he had in the band no slash i still think the cd was pretty amazing and well worth the wait i bet 90 percent of the people that say it sucks dont even know what real music is cuz todays music sucks balls

I guess GnR should of just started the song with another intro. Axl has so many piano intros. I think the guy from Germany just got lucky. CHINESE DEMOCRACY ROCKS! and for all you haters it sold 2.6 million copies! That’s a big number with all the free downloads these days and no promo.

It’s all completely irrelevant because nobody bought this album anyway.

GNR just got more lame for having to PDiddy themselves.

chidem has 3 good songs.like appetite.and illusion.the rest is a train wreck, like appetite. and illusion.but at least axl is trying. can’t say that much for most rock bands.

It’s been almost a year since chindem being released. but the funny thing is that they’re now making a statement about this bullshit accusation.
what a smart move! nice job,though.
Dumbass!!!
GUNS N’ ROSES IS DIVINE.lick it up my friend just lick it up!

man, who cares, chinese democracy was a horrible album anyway.

Guns n’ Roses used to ripp off other unknown artists back in the 80’s.
It’s not new.

I’d really like to know what new album (please, not an old one) are you listening these days that is way better than Chinese Democracy? I thinks that some of you are listening to some crap and criticizing a really good album like ChDem, and maybe without listening to it.

No promo? You must be joking.

Riad n’ the bedouins was played live in 2001, Shnauss released the songs in 2003, so Gn’R could sue that guy!!

Chinese Democracy is one of the best rock album, and Shnauss want just a bit of publicity for his songs, it’s clear that it’s just a sounds effect!!

It’s just a synth sound effect, it’s not a melody or a lyric, and Riad n’ the bedouins was played live before Shnauss released his songs, he will lose!! And Chinese Democracy is a FANTASTIC ALBUM!! By Universal music Chile it sold 5 million copies in the world without any rotation in radio and any video! Thanks Axl and Gn’R for that great album!!!!

Shnauss want to take advantage for earn a million dollars with the GN’R album!! It’s a lost cause, everybody can use a synth sample. And how can someone say Chinese Democracy isn’t a great album?? Listen to it!!! Listen to This I love, Street of dreams, There was a time, Catcher in the rye, Sorry,Madagascar,Better, the super-beautiful Prostitute, have you ever heard so beautiful songs after November rain, Don’t cry or Estranged??? No, if you listen to Chinese Democracy.

I love Chinese Democracy, an album with great melodies and lyrics. Now Mr. Shnauss try to take advantage with it..ahahah, a million dollar for a computer sample, they will laugh him in face…

I know I’m super-beautiful I agree Chinese Democracy is fantastic album, the songs are so beautiful and touching,my favourite are Prostitute,Catcher in the rye,Street of dreams and This I love,tnx Axl for released this great album! Mr.Ulrich Shnauss,now are you happy to be in the news?

Is just a sound effect of the song.

and how managed a rock band as gn’r to play such a sample live? they didn’t. the song is around for more than a decade but it don’t sound live the same as on the album. which i like a lot. even though i don’t like the singer. the asshole can sing and compose great songs.

If Chinese Democracy was written and recorded over three years, people would’ve thought the album was pretty damn good. Just because it’s not ‘old school’ Gunners doesn’t mean it’s bad. It’s a decent, and musically expansive album with some great guitar playing on it. As for the sample, really, that is what is irrelevant. Axl Rose is an icon of rock and always will be.

Axl calling his band now Guns and Roses is a joke! Chinese Democracy was lame.

Let’s also remember that Guns N’ Roses bankrupted what was once a great record company, Geffen Records, and got a lot of people fired. All that and now this? At the very least, this band should have produced a monumental album but they came infinitely short. This album is the biggest flop in all of music history! Axl should be in jail for what he’s done.

Still covering GNR? Is it 1987?

In the jail must go the people that don’t want to spend 20 euro to buy an original cd, but they like a lot to download it. Axl Rose have done a great album, the best I’ve heard after Appetite and Illusion, and after listen to Chinese Democracy the most part of other music I hear at radio or mtv seems to me bullshit.

This statement comes from a band that tried to sue Dr. Pepper.. haha

Who is Ulrich Schnauss????., He just got free advertising,he should be happy.

Listening to the first ten seconds of each song on My Space doesn’t equate to hearing the album. As far as a flop it’s sold over 5 million worldwide. To all those indie dickheads go back and listen to your flavour of the month bands that you won’t care about in three years. The Strokes anyone?

umm go axl!!!! axl is an amazing musician and doesnt gt enough credit for being a good guy too.

“As of June 25, 2009 the album has sold a total of 5.4 million copies worldwide and was certified as platinum.”

That is for all the people who don’t even know the sales the album made. The album was a success by today’s standards not to mention the cash they got from Best Buy in the exclusive deal. And for that “plagiarism”. Its a 10 second computer generated clip. No lyrics or anything. Look it up on YouTube its not hard.

Everybody panic! Oh my God, there’s a bear loose in the coliseum! There will be no refunds! Your refund will be escaping this deathtrap with your life! If you have a small child, use it as a shield! They love the tender meat! Cover your sodas! Dewie loves sugar!

as much as i love them axl stole the serpentine dance from great white so

The Axl’s serpentine dance is hot!!!

W. Axl Blows!

Listening to the new album makes you want to “Slash” your wrist. It’s that awful.

@ Maria

It’s just a synth sound effect, it’s not a melody? Riad n’ the bedouins was played live before Shnauss released his songs?

First of all it is definitely a 1 on 1 copy of 2 of Ulrich Schnauss’ intro’s. The second part has a distinct sound an does indeed have a melody.

Playing it live proofs nothing if you later add a stolen intro on the release.

If it’s a significant part or not, you just can’t take 2 >10 second parts from 1 artist and use them both in one song without it getting noticed!!

The claim is totally legit.