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Bruce Springsteen’s Manager Responds to Jersey Ticket Flap

6/22/09, 12:23 pm EST

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Bruce Springsteen’s manager, Jon Landau, has fired back at claims by Ticketmaster that suggest ticket-sale problems at two recent New Jersey concerts were caused by the nearly 2,300 tickets that were withheld from the public. The latest battle between Springsteen’s camp and Ticketmaster began a week ago, when the Newark Star-Ledger investigated Bruce’s May 21st concert at New Jersey’s Izod Center and found only 108 of 1,126 prime seats were offered to the public. That news prompted Ticketmaster’s Barry Diller to tell the New York Post, it was “minimally fair-minded” to point out the problem since “Bruce Springsteen has been one of our most vocal critics on our ticketing policies.”

In an 1,100-word letter posted on Springsteen’s official Website, Landau has responded by lashing out at Ticketmaster for botching the initial onsale of the New Jersey shows — and explaining that holding back tickets for friends, family and media is a common practice. “We do hold significant numbers of tickets when we play New Jersey, New York and Los Angeles, as does every arena headliner,” Landau writes. “Unlike some Ticketmaster managed artists, no tickets are held for high dollar resale on TicketsNow, or through any other means.”

Read the complete text of the statement after the jump:

An Update on Ticketing Issues from Jon Landau

Somehow, a new flurry of interest has been created around Thrill Hill’s
ticket holds for the recent Izod Center shows. These are the same shows
that became such a subject of controversy when they went on sale on February
6th. The new theory is that Bruce’s holds were the problem on February 6th,
and not Ticketmaster’s already acknowledged failures on that day. But the
truth is that Bruce’s holds had nothing to do at all with the breakdown of
Ticketmaster’s system.

These are the undisputed facts about February 6th. On that morning, when
our fans went to buy their Bruce and Band tickets for the face value of $95,
they were in many cases immediately linked to Ticketmaster’s wholly owned
ticket reselling company TicketsNow, where prices were many times higher
than $95. We call this “bait and switch.” As a result, an undetermined but
large amount of money flowed into TicketsNow (and eventually Ticketmaster)
even though there were still tickets at normal prices yet to be made
available on Ticketmaster. We perceived this to have been a major abuse of
our fans, complained about it mightily, and added that because of behavior
like this, the pending merger of the number one ticketing company and number
one management company (both owned by Ticketmaster) with the number one
venue owner and operator (Live Nation) might not be such a hot idea.

How do we know that all this is true?

1. On February 6th, when the ticket fiasco occurred, Ticketmaster’s CEO
wrote to Bruce, myself, and our fans to generously apologize, which apology
we promptly and graciously posted on our site. The letter stated that the
problem was the product of an inexplicable “glitch.”

2. The volume of complaints received by New Jersey Attorney General Anne
Milgram exceeded anything ever experienced before and she ultimately secured
a consent degree from Ticketmaster, in which they promised that some of
their practices (”glitches”) with regard to its sister company TicketsNow
will never be repeated.

3. The CEO of Ticketmaster openly testified as to their responsibility for
these “glitches” in front of Committees of Congress.

Based on all of the above, we can safely conclude that on February 6th,
Ticketmaster transferred legitimate requests for tickets at face value over
to their TicketsNow site, where they could charge people hundreds and
hundreds more dollars for the same ticket. The amount of additional profit
generated by scalper type prices through this now famous “glitch” remains
unknown. Whether this was merely an extremely profitable “glitch” for
Ticketmaster/TicketsNow or something else, we have no way of knowing.

Last Sunday, June 14, the Newark Star Ledger ran an article entitled
“Springsteen withheld best tickets from the public at NJ concert, records
show.” This is the same article that the Star Ledger runs whenever we do a
few indoor shows in New Jersey. It suggested that we were in someway
responsible for the Ticketmaster/TicketsNow problem. On Thursday, June 18,
Hits Magazine ran a summary of this article, On Friday, June 19,
Ticketmaster’s Chairman attacked Bruce personally in the New York Post, in
an article called “Ticket Blitzkrieg.” In this article, Ticketmaster’s
Chairman deploys by implication Ticketmaster’s new line: despite their
apology, despite the consent decree with Attorney General Milgram, and
despite their testimony in Congress, the ticket catastrophe was actually
Bruce’s fault.

Of course, the only thing wrong with the Chairman’s spin is that it’s flatly
untrue. He is merely using the time honored tradition of blowing smoke to
distract attention away from Ticketmaster’s already acknowledged
responsibility for their “glitches” on February 6th, the on-sale date of the
two Izod Center shows.

Now lets talk a little about Thrill Hill’s ticket practices. Perhaps the
first thing to be said is that when we play New Jersey, our fans know that
we are usually going to do more than two indoor shows in order to ensure,
among other things, that during the course of a tour, Springsteen tickets
will be plentiful so as many fans as possible will have a chance to get
great seats (hence the five upcoming shows at Giants Stadium.) As our fans
also know, we have kept all of our tickets under $100 and do all that we can
to ensure that as many as possible are sold at face value.

Yes, we do hold significant numbers of tickets when we play New Jersey, New
York and Los Angeles, as does every arena headliner. These holds are used by
Bruce, his band members, and longtime members of his extended organization,
their families and close relations; by the record label for its staff, for
reviewers, and for radio stations; by charities who are provided with
tickets for fund raising purposes, such as special auctions; for service
people who help us on a year-round basis; and for other similar purposes.
Unlike some Ticketmaster managed artists, no tickets are held for high
dollar resale on TicketsNow, or through any other means.

Where are the Bruce holds? The 2,000 to 3,500 tickets closest to the stage
are on the floor and more than 95% of them go to the public, making the
basic premise of the Star Ledger headline inaccurate. Secondly, with regard
to seats held in the best sections on either side, we always blend guest
seats with fan seats so that there are never any sections consisting
entirely of guest seats.

In addition, it is well known that we sometimes release a significant number
of excellent tickets on the day of the show at the box office, which can
only be bought with direct entrance to the venue. It’s known as the “drop.”
Many think that is done on purpose to help combat the scalpers who prey on
fans at the last minute. That is a good thought.

(Also, in connection with the Izod Center shows in particular, we released
some of our holds to Attorney General Milgram to go into the lottery she
created to help deal with people who were penalized by the
Ticketmaster/TicketsNow “glitch” on February 6th.)

Those are our ticket practices, as they have evolved over more than 30 years
of experience. Does anyone seriously imagine that any element of these
practices caused Ticketmaster to redirect ticket requests to TicketsNow for
the Izod Center shows? What would our incentive have been? It’s not we who
earned vastly larger sums when fans paid way over the face value of the
tickets. It was Ticketmaster/TicketsNow.

Final thoughts: We have no interest in having an ongoing conflict with
Ticketmaster/TicketsNow or anyone else. That has not been part of our
history. And it is generally not our purpose to spend time on this site on
matters of this kind. But we do get upset when we see fans being taken
advantage of, as they were on February 6th. So, when that stuff stops
happening (and the Ticketmaster/TicketsNow problems surrounding our recent
show in Washington D.C. shows that these issues are far from resolved) we
will stop complaining. And when the facts cease to be misrepresented, we
will stop explaining.


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Comments

GregC | 6/22/2009, 12:36 pm EST

But 95% of the best seats as you call them are the floor general admission seats, hardly prime seats for over 50’s that don’t want to fight the crowd and stand all night, so the best seats are the “blended” seats near the stage, care to give out the numbers on those rather than just state that fans are “blended” into the seating so the entire section is not comp tickets? For all we know that could mean 2 seats out of hundreds, and who pays for these comp seats in the long run, most likely the fans.

mws | 6/22/2009, 1:41 pm EST

To answer GregC:
A good friend of mine worked on the lighting crew for the Reunion tour. The company was basically a subcontractor.

They were able to request a few (maybe 12-20 total maximum, for a crew many times that size) tickets for each show for friends, family, or business associates. Explicitly NOT to be resold; any unused tickets went into the “drop” on the day of the show. I was lucky enough to be able to use these tickets through my friend a couple of nights. One night that she was not able to help me was the opening night of the US leg in NJ. According to my friend, almost all the band members had family that wanted to attend, and it was a huge night for press requests as well.

I asked her hhow many tickets were blocked off like this and she said it was no more than a couple hundred, so the numbers above from Landau are probably pretty accurate. And these were NOT seats right next to the stage, but maybe 3 sections from the stage on the side; excellent seats, but not the best in the house. Probably random rows scattered among a few sections for this block of seats for the Bruce camp to use, or not use.

rawred | 6/22/2009, 1:43 pm EST

Based on history, there are few artists besides Springsteen can command much higher prices for their showas and don’t. The Police, Clapton, Stones, Eagles, Van Morrison, Fleetwood Mac etc. all have insanely high ticket prices for their shows. Livenation / Ticketmaster then works with these acts to hold back tickets and jack up the prices. Springsteen is the only artist to attempt to have an equitable system. Is it perfect, no. But it far exceeds the norm.

RichN | 6/22/2009, 2:22 pm EST

To GregC – As someone who deals with “ticket holds” all the time – and in that very venue, I can tell you that most artist holds begin in Section 108 and across the floor in section 120. 108 is the one with the press box about half way back and 120 is slightly closer on the other side. There are occasionally some held closer, but the bigger numbers occur from halfway back and beyond. This is true not just of Bruce, but of virtually all shows. The Meadowlands folks are also concerned with these issues. ONe reason that artists “blend” seats and do not put them any closer is that the performer is not generally privy to the details and no manager wants their act to be staring at empty seats, particularly when it is caused by the privileged few who don’t have to wait on line. Further to your questions, regarding the money, one of two things happens: 1) the value of those seats is removed from any and all equations (i.e. there is no value and therefore no cost borne by the fan) or 2) everyone pays for their tickets, regardless of how they were able to acquire them or their level of privilege. In Bruce’s case, I expect the latter to be the case. Ultimately, every ticket is paid for in one way or another. I hope this answers your question.

STFU | 6/22/2009, 4:14 pm EST

Springsteen is a dumbass sellout poser to Guitar Hero

Mark | 6/22/2009, 4:30 pm EST

I had to get tickets to the Pearl Jam concert in Toronto in August through TicketsNow because the day tickets went on sale the Ticketmaster site was overloaded and by the time I got through tickets were sold out. I had to pay $385 for 2 lawn tickets instead of the face value of $55/ticket. Should have waited and bought staight from a scalper the day of the show.

GregB | 6/22/2009, 4:31 pm EST

STFU, you’re the only dumbass connected with this story.

Nathan | 6/22/2009, 4:48 pm EST

Ticketmaster must die!

Marc | 6/22/2009, 7:17 pm EST

I have been to over 700 concerts in my lifetime. Because of the price of tickets, I now attend less than 10 shows a year. I go to small venues where I can see people like Robben Ford, Jorma, Johnny Winter or Todd Rundgren for a reasonable ticket price. I may go to 3-5 larger venue shows if I really want to see the artist, like Rush, The Who and recently Jeff Beck.

Overrated Brucie | 6/22/2009, 11:00 pm EST

What a load. Springstein has always been a tool – what a joke, he’s been a media baby since he started and is still a tool media baby.

thetruth | 6/23/2009, 1:45 am EST

no matter what, bruce is the best.

helenbowdine | 6/23/2009, 2:55 am EST

these artists have mastered the “bait n switch” for 40 yars.
they used to get “pocket money” by having their friends stand outside and scalp the best tickets but with the advent of technology now they all do is use a 3rd party straw man like tickets now who scalp the tickers and then supply a little “kick back”
bruce springsteen is 100% responsible.
he tells ticketmaster what to do not the other way around.
he has sold over $1 billion in albums. surely the “boss” can sell his own tickets!

Rakesh | 6/23/2009, 4:23 am EST

If Bruce holds a high number of tickets in Jersey and New York, so what? What’s the big deal? Anyone would like to give free tickets to their families and friends and they are most certainly not going to be the worst seats in the house.
Anyway, the guy plays so many shows in jersey, so why crib. Atleast you get to see him which we living in india dont. And for all those with nasty comments on Bruce, why do you guys even waste your time reading about an artist you apparently hate and whether you like it or not, that guy still sells out shows,still puts in a 3 hr performance and there are millions of people who would rather listen to him than anyone else

Anonymous | 6/23/2009, 10:53 am EST

No, the Boss CANNOT sell his own tickets.

Nearly every major venue in the country, has an exclusive relationship to Ticketmaster (or another ticketing vendor), and tickets MUST be sold using that system.

Yes, they do allow artsts to sell fanclub tickets directly, but only a small percentage.

You want to play at the IZOD Center? You MUST use Ticketmaster.

timmmaaayyyy | 6/23/2009, 11:19 am EST

Ticketmaster, along with all the other greedy organizations/individuals (I.e. Live Nation) have killed it for concert goers.
How Ticketmaster ever got so powerful and have been allowed to legally scalp through this Tickets Now is beyond me. Can you imagine going to a grocery store and wanting to purchase something and because it’s the last two or three of that item left on the shelf the price goes up because the demand was high and the retailer saw an opportunity decided to gouge the consumer? I’ve become very turned off by the concert industry. Say no to scalpers of any kind and over priced tickets, it won’t hurt you and maybe someday this might get reversed back to reasonable levels.

musicfan | 6/23/2009, 3:47 pm EST

Blaming ticketmaster is like blaming an ATM for not giving you money out of your empty checking account – it a computerized system that facilitates the TRANSACTION for the purchaser. That’s all. What is held back from going on sale to the public is approved by the artist, it has nothing to do with TM. TM’s point was that if the band didn’t hold 2500 prime seats (starting with the best loge tickets) then the public would have more of a shot of them.

try to educate yourself | 6/23/2009, 4:51 pm EST

Every single band that has that magnitude that bruce and the e-street band does hold a large number of tickets for family…..every single bands does get over it…and what most people don’t know is that the ones that aren’t used and in bruces case about 90-95% are sold at the box office right before the show starts. The problem is with TM redirecting people in tickets now. trying to sell the tickets at a different price.

musicfan | 6/23/2009, 5:34 pm EST

To try to educate yourself: you are incorrect. bruce’s camp does not release 90% of their tickets prior to show. it’s true that there are always some releases but they know their history of ticket needs (esp in Jersey) and would not hold the amount they did if they didn’t need them. if people didn’t resell their tickets on ticketsnow, they’d sell them on ebay, stubhub or any number of avenues to resell tickets. the artist has the right to hold tickets, but unless an artist allows every single ticket in the house to become available to the public, they should probably tread lightly when they point fingers.

puss c foot | 6/23/2009, 6:02 pm EST

the concert industry is all a big scam…and alot of the artists are in on it too…you all are so fooled.

BJ | 6/24/2009, 2:13 am EST

Bruce is one of a very few who tries to fight a rotten system based only on greed and profit. He`s no saint in the city but his heart`s in the right place. Kudos to Landau for saying it out loud!

Jim | 6/24/2009, 10:38 am EST

This monopoly called Ticketmaster needs to be stopped.

The recording industry was destroyed forever by the greed of a handful of record executives who mishandled and led the industry down a path of no return.
Combine this with the overall practices and iconic persona expectations placed on artists struggling to be recognized has forever silenced the creativity of what is an art form called music.

Now, Ticketmaster is proceeding to destroy the platform that has brought the artist to our town.
God Help Rock n Roll !

Samola | 6/24/2009, 3:45 pm EST

Good luck….14 years ago Pearl Jam took bloody TM to court…TM leeches

Marco Polo | 6/24/2009, 4:09 pm EST

Barry Diller and Ticketmaster keep digging themselves in deeper and deeper. They may think they are making a smart PR move by blaming Springsteen in order to better their reputation vis a vis Live Nation, but they are mistaken. You can’t position Bruce as the instigator of Ticketmaster’s attempts to make more unethical profit. You can’t because Bruce and Jon have the facts on their side. PR 101: If Ticketmaster goes up against Bruce, Bruce always wins, he’s America’s soul. A shameless attempt by Ticketmaster to misdirect the issue.

JS | 6/24/2009, 6:10 pm EST

I love how everyone keeps blaming ticketmaster. TM does not set the ticket prices (that is based on what the artist wants to be paid). Ticketmaster does not decide what seats get held back from the public. While it’s true that TM has contracts with the venues to be the exclusive ticket vendor, all they do is SELL the available tickets!!! I worked in the box office industry for alot of year’s a had a front row seat to how it’s done (no pun intended). Yes, TM has the ticketsnow program but that just makes them one of MANY avenues to resell tickets.

zeromedia | 6/26/2009, 10:16 pm EST

the soul of rock and roll has always been the fans no one in the music buisness for over thirty five years has given what springsteen and his merry band of people do for to and with the fans every night they play in los angeles i recently personally witnessed a amazing night of uplifting music my friends from italy said it was the best theyve ever seen this with a professional musician in the group tickets were available at the door hence we purchased from a scalper at one half face value in 1985 i bought tickets at wembley london for half of face value at other venues the same thing so destroy the bush era ticket master bastards and install a fair system and bruce as far as i am concerned after what youve done for us all give any tickets where ever whenever however you like

zeromedia | 6/26/2009, 10:16 pm EST

the soul of rock and roll has always been the fans no one in the music buisness for over thirty five years has given what springsteen and his merry band of people do for to and with the fans every night they play in los angeles i recently personally witnessed a amazing night of uplifting music my friends from italy said it was the best theyve ever seen this with a professional musician in the group tickets were available at the door hence we purchased from a scalper at one half face value in 1985 i bought tickets at wembley london for half of face value at other venues the same thing so destroy the bush era ticket master bastards and install a fair system and bruce as far as i am concerned after what youve done for us all give any tickets where ever whenever however you like

zeromedia | 6/26/2009, 10:16 pm EST

the soul of rock and roll has always been the fans no one in the music buisness for over thirty five years has given what springsteen and his merry band of people do for to and with the fans every night they play in los angeles i recently personally witnessed a amazing night of uplifting music my friends from italy said it was the best theyve ever seen this with a professional musician in the group tickets were available at the door hence we purchased from a scalper at one half face value in 1985 i bought tickets at wembley london for half of face value at other venues the same thing so destroy the bush era ticket master bastards and install a fair system and bruce as far as i am concerned after what youve done for us all give any tickets where ever whenever however you like

Jack C | 8/10/2009, 9:49 pm EST

what is with the high price for the van morrison show ? It has become an elitist trip now. Shame Same Shame ! Van you no longer the Man !

Jack C | 8/10/2009, 9:49 pm EST

what is with the high price for the van morrison show ? It has become an elitist trip now. Shame Same Shame ! Van you no longer the Man !

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