i smell sulfur. sharon is behind this stupidity.

Their argument is 30 years old. A couple of kids fighting over the family furniture.

Gee, Ozzy didn’t seem to mind all those years that Iommi kept the flag of Sabbath going – and was the only original member left in the band. And, um, “Heaven and Hell” is selling out tours and lots of records these days without the BS name (and the baggage of playing “Iron Man” every night). I too smell Sharon in this. Guess that’s what happens when your latest family reality show tanks…
Fight it, Tony!

I love it when rich people fight over money; just sad that it has to be the best heavy metal band of all time. I agree that I smell a Shaaaaaaron behind this. Give the woman credit though, she’s no dummy!

one day, i’m going to sue for ownership of the first company that fired me.

one day, i’m going to sue for ownership of the first company that fired me.

one day, i’m going to sue for ownership of the first company that fired me.

end of the day there was only one sabbath thats with ozzy sad to see his own mates turn on him about dio songwriteing

No doubt Sharon is behind this crap. She is a blood sucking vulture who has contributed well to the death of rock and roll.

The first albums with Dio (Heaven and Hell/ Mob Rules) far outsold the last few with Ozzy (Technical Ecstacy/ Never Say Die) and re-established Sabbath as a viable band. Sure, it got ridiculous later, but it was always Iommi’s call. Surely 15 years ago or so would’ve been the appropriate time to raise such objections?

guess a reunion is out of the question…

I think that Ozzy is/was a great singer, but this is in the same vein as re-releasing his first two solo albums with different bass/drums to cut the original bass player and drummer out of royalties.

Don’t forget the ego trips that caused conflicts with Iron Maiden and other bands on Ozzfest.

His last few albums weren’t that good, either.

And, the new Heaven & Hell album is pretty good, and the live album from Radio City is awesome!

Sharon has run him into the ground and continues to destroy any respect he has. Shame.

I doubt Sharon is any more involved in this than any other wife would be. Meantime, Ozzy era Sabbath is still the only Sabbath worth talking about. The Heaven and Hell disc is a dreadful bore, as bad as post Randy era Ozzy. Yeah, Dio is a songwriter alright..one that ran out of ideas after Last in Line!

Can of worms – prepare to be opened.

Not only is Dio a great songwriter unlike the Ozz(61 this year), Ronnie is still coherent and able to carry on a conversation in his old age(67 this year).

Fight Tony Fight!…. And Dio is GOD!!!! Keep it up Heaven and Hell!! everyone still shouts “SABBATH” at every show!

Fight Tony Fight!…. And Dio is GOD!!!! Keep it up Heaven and Hell!! everyone still shouts “SABBATH” at every show!

I have come to the point of believing that there is something called: “too rich”. When your legacy starts to become outshadowed by these stupidities, it is time to rethink your place in this world.

By the way, I also think that Sharon is behind this. She is rather greedy.

OZ = All credibility gone. Hail the real Sabbath – Heaven and Hell!

Hahahaha – Dio is a God??

The guy who sings ‘Holy Diver’, possibly the most ridiculous song ever?!

What is Ozzy running out of money? That dude probably has more money than the other 3 original members put together. This is stupid. Ozzy is such a sell out.

I smell Shii; I mean Sharon indeed. Too bad she has to ruin everything good about Metal. At least she did pull Oz out of the oblivion when he was fired from sabbath.

They should just settle out of court and let Tony kick Ozzy and Sharon’s greedy asses. Black Sabbath was around before Ozzy, played many successful years without him, and will continue to thrive without him.

I also smell Sharon’s involvement here. The Osbournes owe us all an apology for killing Ozzfest doethe sake of the worst television show in the history of TV.

That said, Black Sabbath is just B.S. without Ozzy! Dio is fine, Heaven & Hell are fine, but it ain’t Sabbath without Ozzy (period). Dio does look like Carla from Cheers. He is not that cool, even if he did invent the devil horns salute. Ozzy is Heavy Metal Royalty, topshelf… Dio is third rate. Anyone that can survive after gettiung fired from Sabbath, hook-up with a master like Randy Rhoades, loose Randy and come back again with Zakk Wylde… come on! You would not who know Tony Iommi even is if it weren’t for Ozzy!

OZZY RULES! Dio drools.

Who’s idea do you think it was for Ozzy to be in that new commercial where he’s using the GPS to find the shitter?

this will end with no result whatsoever other than moving money around to various copyright and patent lawyers pockets. sharon must have friends in the lawyer business and they’re filtering money back to her on the sly.

i like ozzy-era sabbath. they were great. but so were the dio years. and so were portions of the tony martin years.

fight it, iommi. you can win this.

Ozzy…What the F*#k? It does smell a little Sharonish.

Say a little prayer for Ozzy to wise up and stop things like this. Be a musician again. Stop the reality shows. Stop the stupid comedy programs. Don’t do more dumb commercials. Speak in complete and lucid sentences again. Stand up to Sharon–SHE’S RUINING YOU. FOR GOD’S SAKE.

And go out and buy the Heaven & Hell discs. They rock. AND they prove that…well, they’re still musicians. Not punchlines.

To I Hope Slash Sees This:
It won’t matter if he does, because unlike Tony, Axl Rose has legal rights to the name. He made the band members sign a contract that gave Axl total control of the name and band. They were basically demoted from band members to back-up players. The only way Slash and the other former band members could have a chance with such a lawsuit is if they prove that the circumstances in which they signed the contract would render it invalid (e.g., they were too drunk/high to make informed decisions and Axl took advantage of that). Even then, it would be a very hard sell, because without solid proof that they were legitimately swindled, it would only be their word against Axl’s. You don’t need to imagine what a mess that would be. That case would be tossed out of court, and Slash knows it. Otherwise, he would’ve pursued legal action ages ago.

Ozzy really has no leg to stand on,
Tony’s accountant will show how Tony actually paid for whole tours & then his lawyers will show he has a copyright for over a decade, then the judge will throw this out of court, then all the maggots Sharon has in the courtroom will beging to pelt the court with eggs.

\,,/

ozzy you suck

Let’s face it, Ozzy is so far past his prime, he has gotten desperate. How much fucking money do you need? Greed, greed, and more greed. Ozzy has become a caricature of his former self. Ridiculous, really. What Sabbath should do is re-unite with Ozzy and sell tickets out on tour. Do not try to make new music, it will not work. New tunes by the old-school sixties and seventies bands always suck ass. Take the Eagles for example: great band, haven’t made any decent music in thirty years!!!! Let it go with the lawsuits and bullshit bickering. These things are what is wrong with scoiety today!!!

The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams…

Ozzy Rules fuck ya, DIO RUINED SABBATH WITH HIS SHITTY VOICE.

DIO IS a 5 foot clown….

OZZY RULES: and had a way better career than dio and sabbath

Dio youre a 5 foot hobbit

Ozzy and Sharon are undermining their own case by making the false statement that the band’s popularity nosedived right after Ozzy left Sabbath. In fact, their popularity nosedived in the years immediately preceeding his exit, and bounced back with their first album with Dio, “Heaven and Hell.” The sad thing is that all this might have been avoided if Ozzy had simply recorded a new studio album with Sabbath. Unfortunately, the idea of trying to match the great early Sabbath recordings terrifies him. (Too bad that didn’t prevent the Ozzy-era “Never Say Die” and “Technical Ecstasy” from being made in the late 70s.) Instead, the mighty Sabbath was relagated to being a oldies act, playing the same hour of hits on Ozzfest every other year. Ozzy chose to do “The Osbournes” and more solo records rather than a new Sabbath album. Iommi and Geezer could wait no longer, have reunited with Dio, and are having great success. And they’re not even using the Sabbath name. A lot of people would rather have another Ozzy/Sabbath record and tour instead of Heaven and Hell, but it’s Ozzy who derseves the blame for losing control of the band, not Iommi. I don’t think a lot of fans will have much sympathy over Ozzy’s war over T-shirt sales.

Elvis knows Best:

The show didn’t ruin Ozzfest. Ozzfest is probably over for ever. In case you did not here in 2005 Ozzy was diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease. I imagine by this point he is getting to the point to where he is no longer able to take the rigors of performing live on a regular basis.

i fart in your general direction. your mother was a hampster and your father smelt of elderberries

Ozzy’s Ultimate Sin
unfortunately it went this alley, In terms of Saabbath , I think I know that even if Ozzy did a new studio album, would it sound even as good as “technical ecstacy”?, I doubt it, I am glad that there is something called heaven and hell today, who sold “the devil you know ” to the top 10 North American Charts , and performed killer gigs and is still doing so, Iommi please go on and do a decent “bible Black ” video let it be televised all around, I think Sharon is pissed off because of the success that heaven and hell has scored especially with “the devi you know” , and the falt response of Black rain comparitively, in fact dio is the main player now, if he sticks to heaven and hell everything will stay cool, I hope geezer will stay on iommi’s side, Sorry ozzy i can not believe your sentimental statement I like your “ultimate sin” , but if Zack wylde is gonna play in the name of Sabbath, I would not be interested to purchase, Because simply its not Sabbath, I can not imagine a Sabbath song without iommi’s riff in it.

Yeah, I’m siding with Tony on this one. BTW if you have not picked up the new Heaven & hell do so as it is a KILLER CD.

First Ozzy screwed with the Randy Rhoads tapes and now he is doing this shit? I smell Sharon’s involvement.

If you are going to sue someone, why wait 30 years after the fact?

You can’t deny Ozzy deserves some of the name and trademark. Not 50% perhaps, but some. And frankly I don’t blame him if he truly feels they’re making money partly on his legacy.

It is funny though…Dio doesn’t suck, he has a ridiculous amazing metal voice and fits perfect in Sabbath. Ozzy doesn’t suck, he has a unique voice and his image did play a crucial role in pushing Sabbath higher and higher. Nobody here sucks. It’s a matter of A) Whether you can understand how a musician feels when he sees his/her music/legacy being used B) Whether you feel Ozzy legitimately has the feeling in option A.

Ozzy had a WAY better career than Sabbath? Ha! Idiot. Really, the only mega kick ass records Ozzy did were the first two.That was largely due to Van Halen being SO badass at that time so it forced Ozzy to work very hard. By Bark At The Moon, Ozzy had peaked.

tony iommi is, was, and always will be the heart and soul of black sabbath, whether ozzy likes it or not. in my opinion, the records without ozzy were much better than the ones with him anyway. tony should fight this lawsuit and ozzy should just retire before he destroys what’s left of his already tarnished legacy.

shame on ozzy seriously !
i bet it was sharon who brought the idea up to ozzy. The band member are 60+ years old and ozzy is the only immature one sueing for money. Im sure geezer and bill dont care about iommi owning the name because when it comes down to it its about the music not the money ! ozzy has enough money.
tony iommi to me is black sabbath.
Hes the mastermind the brains and sould who worked to be what the band has become. Ozzy was nothing more than just a voice for the band and a drunk. he didnt even write the lyrics. i hope ozzy loses miserably !

dio is a great singer, anyone trying to slag him – or ozzy, for that matter, is off base. yes, he’s short and ugly, but who gives a shit? he’s an amazing singer. if this was a beauty pageant i could see your objections but it aint. fuck it.

on to the facts. as other people have pointed out here, the ozz instability had put sabbath on the ropes near the end. this is why you cannot leave dio out of the black sabbath picture. he gave the band credibility, a shot in the arm of creativity, and greater sales than the last 3 or so ozzy sabbath albums.

if it really were so objectionable that tony owned the sabbath name and wasn’t selling much, why didn’t ozzy THEN try to get the brand and make it successful again? why is it that NOW that it’s popular again NOW he wants a piece of it?

let’s face it, tony is handling the sabbath legacy very well now. there was a point where perhaps he wasn’t, but he’s shown a lot of restraint. since he owns the copyright, he couldve called all his solo projects – the iommi stuff, the iommi/hughes stuff, and teh h&h album – black sabbath stuff but he didn’t. he was being respectful to ozzy. but that’s tony’s call, not ozzy’s.

come on guys, this is about money and ego.

with all due repect ozzy is sabbath.his vocals made then what they are today.tony put out some of the worst albums that tarnished black sabbath image.

Wow, I wonder who’s behind this one my goodness, I really can’t imagine! [sarascm] You know I like Ozzy but from what I’ve heard from me mates who are fans even they’re starting to lose patience with him even with Sharon behind all this rubbish.

This is similar to the Whiter Shade of Pale case where in I think in 2006 all of a sudden one of the keyboardists decided to claim copyright. Why wait until now? It’s simple! It’s so much easier to sue people these days as it were back then there’s more resources and more anger and less dignity! Sadly I can see this hurting Ozzy’s reputation badly. Even more than doing the World of Warcraft adverts. Hurhurhur.

Please go to Ozzy.com and read Ozzy’s personal statement on this. This isn’t about taking 50% of Black Sabbath. It’s about keeping the name sacred to the four original members. SOmething I totally agree with. Black Sabbath (Tony, Ozzy, Geezer and Bill) are in the RnR Hall of Fame.

I’m a Huge Black Sabbath fan and am a fair critic but let’s be honest – Ozzy and Sharon are Greedy as hell! Yes the BS is with Ozzy but the DIO albums are just as Great. First they fuck up by re-recording the first two Ozzy Solo records, then they egg Iron Maiden and now they want to sue Tony Iommi for more money?! Ozzy didn’t care about BS in the 80’s when he was successful and Iommi wasn’t. Why didn’t he sue Iommi in the 80’s? I think the reason why he’s suing Iommi now is because Ozzy and Sharon are Greedy and because while he’s made himself look like a dumb shit with that stupid reality show and all those stupid commercials – he’s lost credability and fans while Iommi and Black Sabbath(with DIO) has finally gotten respect, are still considered Top Notch muscians and are making Great Metal while Ozzy’s past couple of Solo Records haven’t been that Great. I think he’s put us fans thru alot of shit while he’s gotten rich from us, I mean we’ve all have wanted a new Sabbath record with Ozzy but instead he’s of doing one, he keeps making his fucking solo records. I love Ozzy and his Music but he’s wrong on this one and needs to cut his shit and have some Balls and stand up to Sharon.

Black Sabbath is Tony Iommi.
Whithout Ozzy’s vocals Sabbath is still Sabbath.
But without Tony’s riffs and signature guitar sound Sabbath isn’t Sabbath.
The haunting and devilish guitar riffs are the trademark of Sabbath in my opinion.

this is about sharon the evil witch osbourne.

Whilst I love Ozzy era Sabbath … can’t stand the Dio (or anyone else years) Sharon Osbourne can shove it up her fat backside … Sabbath is Toni Iommi – Ozzy has had a succesful career outside of Sabbath and should leave it alone. Is she not content with turngin him into a mainstream TV Pantomime joke without turning Sabbath fans against him. What a witch

Ozzy has no case, he left the band, Geezer left the band and Bill left, it’s the same way with Pink Floyd and Kiss, the members that left own nothing except what they wrote same way with Black Sabbath

The original members all still make money off of album sales and the copyrights of songs they wrote. They all left the band and Tony did not, so he owns the name. They changed the name to Heaven and Hell for the Dio lineup paying respect to the original lineup as Black Sabbath so anything in the future involving Black Sabbath will be the original members and they will make any money coming to Black Sabbath. Ozzy AND Sharon have no case!

Ozzy wants all members to have an equal share in Sabbath and 50% to him. This lawsuit is 24 years too late! Don’t get me wrong, I like Ozzy but this just looks like pure greed to me.

He said on his site that he has tried for 3 years to convince Tony to share the rights. Is it a coincidense that Sabbath got in the RnR hall of fame 3 years ago? Apparently thats what triggered this stupid shit.

For all you slagging Dio or post Ozzy Sabbath, remember the stunt Ozzy pulled with the first live record? He screwed us fans! Then he went on to screw his bandmembers.. Really a cool guy..

Besides, he calls himself the fucking prince of darkness and he sings chrismas songs with Jessica Simpson.. Yeah, really metal!

Iommi and Heaven and Hell rules!

I think Ozz got equal share on the albums he recorded with the band even though on every one of those albums there was at least one instrumental. And Bill Ward sang on a track of each of the last two albums, but I bet Ozz still got equal payment. Tony Iommi could counter sue for the money Ozzy made playing Sabbath songs at his shows. How about his “Speak of the devil” live disc. Tony wrote the music, Geezer wrote the lyrics. Tony Iommi IS Black Sabbath!! Why should he give up the name just because the others left? Dio is 100X better singer than Ozzy and he is better to the fans. He signs autographs and meets with the fans after the shows. Heaven and Hell (1980) and Born Again (1983) featured 3 of the 4 original members of Black Sabbath- why shouldn’t they be called Black Sabbath. Mob Rules (1981), Live Evil (1982), Dehumanizer (1992) Cross purposes (1994) all had 2 of 4 original memembers. As far as the other albums released- they’re great !!! It’s not Tony’s fault the others left. I think this “Heaven and Hell” stuff should be called Black Sabbath too, it is Sabbath and it certainly lives up to the Sabbath standards. Screw Ozzy and Sharon greedy A-holes. Tony should re-record a new album of Sabbath classics with Dio on vocals just to piss them off. Besides Dio has the voice to do any of the Sabbath catalog.

I’m affraid that I won’t be Ozzy fan anymore if he doesn’t stop this idiotic nonsence!

Tony

Iommi is Black Sabbath. He owns the name and thats the end of the matter.
Now Sabbath are a respected and iconic brand name, Ozzy wants a bit of the action., no doubt being led by his darling spouse.
Tony has kept his dignity throughout, even during the lean years, Ozzy has not.
Give it up Ozzy, you’re making a fool of yourself.

I think the name should belong to all 4 members equally, but overall the Law Suit should just be DROPPED. HEAVY-METAL Needs
Black Sabbath to RE-UNITE more Than Ever, (No Offense To DIO, WHO KICKS ASS WITH HEAVEN AND HELL.)

ok. even a modicum of truth must be told. please ignore all the nonsense surrounding this. this is what a lifetime of abusing yourself and people around you comes to( of which all are guilty) in house fighting and sniping. its just a basic enemy philosophy outlook on life/money and fame. hopefully all parties will realize people are actually starving to death while they carry on this balderdash. give the money to charities, young metal bands..has anyone come to any actual harm? no. you would think with the evil spectre of death fast approaching all of these guys they would write more doom laden stuff. but oh no…lets fight and bitch and moan.in my opinion dio is a great singer for a dio style band like rainbow etc…heavy metal sounds kinda wrong until you hear the early sabbath stuff. it has that edge to it. blues rock jazz influences. cant picture dio singing “hand of doom” or ozzy now for that matter. just listen to the music.ignore the hype. \/

regardless of who wrote the songs and what not, there would be no Sabbath without Ozzy. When he was kickedout and replaced with Dio, the band made a few midocre albums. After that though the band went downhill (way down), and did not have a great resurgense until the big reunion thing in 96. With the help of Ozzys management core and through OZZFEST the band was back in the limelight and tony and the rest were making a big chunk of change. Now all of a sudden here’s Dio again trying to get a few bucks off the bands new popularity, which would never have come about without the Ozzfest tours. Now Dio was great with Rainbow and on his solo stuff, but Sabbath he is not. Look at the venues this Heaven and hell band is doing. They are playing the Greek theatre in L.A. in august. They might as well be at the local Highschool Gymnasium. HAHA! The Place seats maybe 4 to 5 thousand people. Where the Ozzfest is held It’s 40,000. I’m sure everytime Ozzy has played a sabbath tune on his solo tours he has to kick down some money to tony & Geezer & bill. You can’t play and not pay. The Only real sabbath is OZZY , TONY, GEEZER, AND BILL.

There are many excellent opinions here. At first, I thought Ozzy should have had a share, but others here have changed my mind. Tony soldiered on. Heck, even in early ‘86 he was working on a solo album, but the record company demanded it be called a Black Sabbath record before it’s release. So I have to agree. Tony owns the name. Should Ozzy get a share? Yes…but maybe 25%. Plus, Ozzy’s had such a successful solo career, why would he need to trample on his former bandmate?

Ozzsoldier’s spelling is midocre like Ozzy’s talent . the only reason he is successful now is because of the talent and business acumen surrounding him.
If it wasn’t for Bob Daisley, Randy Rhodes and Sharon he would have ended up like Bon Scott. Iommi kicked him out for being a non-productive drunk . Why didn’t he sue then ? Geezer did most of the songwriting . He was great on the first couple of albums but Dio is a far superior singer, songwriter and band member than Ozzy will ever be and we don’t have to endure his wife fucking up the music business .

2 bald guys fighting over a comb

Tony Black Sabbath Iommi
Ozzy’ I cant write a song” Alden
I throw buckets of water into the crowd and everybody thinks I can sing
Tony sucks for screwing Tony Martin but he is Sabbath

I hope Sharon leaves him for Joey Tempest of Europe

Let a sing off determine the outcome .

Of course The Ozzfest drew a bigger crowd. How many bands play those things? 30 or so? Plus all the other “festival stuff” around it. How big of a crowd do you think Ozzy would draw on his own nowadays. To this point I’ve bought all of Osbournes solo albums but I will NOT buy his next (if there is a next). He’s gone too far. I looked past his ugly pinkie finger, I looked past his wife mailing Tony a box of her doo doo (acording to Bob Daisley in a Black Sabbath book), I didn’t look past him re-recording Blizzard and Diary but I have the originals so I got over it. Now I have no use for him or his wife. Hey Ozzsoldier maybe Ronnie couldn’t sing Hand of Doom (and that’s a BIG maybe) but he can sing the old Sabbath songs that matter- check out Live Evil ! It’s Ozzy that couldn’t sing any Sabbath song other than the ones he’s already sung on. Tony Martin could (and did) sing a large span of Black Sabbath songs. I think if Tony Martin could pull off “Into the Void” then Dio could pull off anything you come up with. Cross Purposes is awesome from start to finish. Mob Rules is a master piece. There no way Ozzy’s whining voice could pull off anything from any of the other BLACK SABBATH albums (Yes they’re called BLACK SABBATH albums). Tony Iommi should show some balls and call this Heaven and Hell project Black Sabbath (like it should have been called all along) and quit worrying about ever reuniting with Ozzy. And if he really wants to piss Ozzy and Sharon off- go in the studio with Dio on vocals and re-record a album of old Sabbath songs. Tony Iommi is Black Sabbath. It’s his sound. He’s the one that stuck it out through thick and thin. He never gave up on the band. Black Sabbath has been around longer without Ozzy than they were with him. Long live Tony Iommi and anybody else he has in the band.

I feel that this is Sharon’s doing, Ozzy is just a big a part of sabbath as Dio, tony martin, Glenn, Gillen and all those i may have missed. But you cant divide it they way he makes mention of, true Gezzer, Tony, Bill, and Ozzy founded the group but then all the members of later line-up will want a piece of the pie. I read many comments on here so far and I say to you Ozzy or Dio bashers..Even though Ozzt cant sing now.except for whatever magical machine that make him sound good in a recording, Dio still has a voice which is what many ppl are arguing. Dio cant sing Die Young like he did then and Ozzy cant sing Sabbath Bloody Sabbath the way he did then. So lets try to put to rest the argument of who is the better singer now. Im a big Ozzy fan but his vocals and work was unique and worlds different to dio, Paranoid..and Mob Rules completely different but both awesome…But in saying that its Tony that made it sabbath not necessarily the singers, Im a guitarists I play alot of sabbath from Paranoid to The Devil You Know, but i also play alot of Joe Pass and B.B. King..I understand that tony’s style is what made sabbath. Those thundering power chords of Ironman and its blues form solo to the Otherworldly intro of Die Young and its blistering end solo. Its all unique to his playing and sound.I believe that this should never have gotten this far im disappointed Tony didnt settle this earlier im also upset that Ozzy would let his puppeteer make such a public move against a guitar legend. Like is said Im a big Ozzy/Dio fan but above them all im an Iommi fan as a musican i have more of a fondness for the playing. So whether the dark lord Sharon makes this worse i hope that Bill, Geez, Tony, and Ozzy get the equal share to their creation it took 40years to get here and lets hope The Legacy of sabbath lives long after they’re gone. ALL HAIL BLACK SABBATH

The unsung hero of Black Sabbath is Terry Butler. The very name Black Sabbath was Terry’s idea. Almost all the cool riffs and cool lyrics came from Terry’s head. Terry was a guitar player and unselfishly moved to bass to make Sabbath work. He is the true kick-ass of Sabbath. Anyone who has seen “Geezer” live is amazed at how much sound he gets out of his bass, sometimes playing all four strings at once. The albums Tony did without him are flat and lifeless. When Terry returned to do Cross Purposes, it was a night and day difference, that album really kicked ass. He’s the reason Sabbath was so great, and makes Tony sound so good. It’s about time he got some credit. Tony Martin deseves a lot of credit too, he’s a great singer.

This lawsuit makes me sick to my stomach. Tony has “voluntarily” agreed not to use the Sabbath name, and would gladly do a reunion if Ozzy was willing to. What more does Ozzy want? Cutting Daisley and Kerslake out of their royalties, perhaps their only livelihood, was as slimey as it gets. Those guys had a lot to do with the creation of those songs, and just plain got screwed. But concerning the name rights of Black Sabbath, what’s next? Are the owners of the horror film which title was ripped-off going to come forward and say it is rightfully theirs? Will Marvel comics claim Ironman belongs to them? What bullshit! Where does it end? Copyright used to be 50 years, until powerful Disney was granted an “exception” and still owns the rights to Mickey Mouse. Instead of tearing each other apart Sabbath should be working together to make great music. I turned to Sabbath to escape this kind of worldly shit, now it looks like they’ve come full circle. “Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss!”

“You turn to me in all you’re worldly greed and and pride. But will you turn to me…”

isnt it strange how a money grabing witch has fucked up many a great band,cut the bullshit lads do what you do best make the best music in the world.In my oppinion sabbath wernt that good without Ozzy but ozzy was shit without sabbath

Funny that overstock dot com can’t seem to get rid of Ozzys autographed guitar! LMFAO!

Ozzy you suck snail nutz you little bitch.

Twas Oz that didn’t include Bill Ward on the 1st reunion tour.

Oz only wrote 2 songs in Sabbath, one of em was horrible, Am I Goning Insane from Sabotage album.

Sabbath was in decline when HE WAS IN IT in 76-78. Sabbath went back to the top with Dio in 1980. Even Born Again went to # 3 in 1983 in UK, & subsequent tour was a sellout in the US.

Headless Cross was a top 10 UK album also. Time Machine was a hit single in 92 with Dio on vocals.

He re-recorded the bass & drums parts on his 1st 2 solo albums, ( the only ones that were any good), perhaps to deny Lee Kerslake & Bob daisley any further royalties.

Pattern? I’d say so.

Yes it was Tony’s palm muting, dowtuning & use of minor chords & even Jazz patterns that made Sabbath. Ozzy was lucky to get on board. No other successful heavy band of that period would’ve had him. Purple & Zeppelin had much better singers, so did Priest. What other band could he have fit in? None I can think of. Heep? Budgie? Probably not.

Iommi Is a God. Ozzy is a troll.

fuck off sharon

This is definetly a Sharon thing and once again Ozzy is just her puppet on a string. I am so angry about this. Firstly Ozzy claims that Sabbath were reduced to playing clubs before he returned in 1997 and that since he returned they are playing huge arena’s once more. This may be so, but Sabbath have only been used as a opening act for Ozzy on the Ozzfest tour, a festival with many bands on the bill which would no doubt need a large venue for the high turn out which Ozzy cannot claim is down to Black Sabbath alone. He also claims to have bought credibility to a brand that was ‘in the toilet’ prior to his return, 12 years without recording even ONE studio album would not be the actions of a man looking to rebuild a credible brand. He should have no right or claim on ANYTHING that was released under the Black Sabbath name after he left. He is merely the orginal vocalist and part of their history in the same way as Ian Gillan or Cozy Powell. If he wants to talk about fair play and lost royalties, let’s talk about Lee Kerslake and Bob Daisley who’s contributions to Ozzy’s Blizzard of Oz album were re-recorded by two new guys essentially removing a major source of income for them. Kerslake & Daisley sued Ozzy for this and amazingly and UNJUSTLY the judge sided with the Osbourne’s. This calim should be laughed out of court. Who’s to say who the definitive Black Sabbath line up is? surely that can only be a matter of preference? Why does Ozzy feel he has more right to the Sabbath name than Ronnie James Dio or Tony Martin? As both vocalists also have a 20+ year association with the band. with Black Sabbath once again a creative force albeit under the name Heaven & Hell, Ozzy and Sharon are just looking to piss on their parade as he’s been reduced to appearing in butter commercials in the UK. Grow the F*** up will ya.

I used to be the biggest Ozzy fan. And my favourite Sabbath era is still 1970-1978 really, closely followed by 80-82. But the Sabbath situation was fine. Let Ozzy have his success as a stupidity comedian, and let Tony carry on with some true Sabs!

Yea, I’m so sorry ’bout this Oz! Why you do this? You wrote ‘Am I going insane’ – period. You disgusted every metal fan with your reality porn. You booted out Daisley and Kerslake because they didn’t look like poodles. What stinking rotten unsolidaric act comes next out of your ‘wife’s’ ****

I always stuck up for ozzy for yrs when people cut up on him and said he was a crazy idiot.But after hearing about how he screwed Daisely and Kerslake and now trying to take away the Sabbath name from tony.A man who stuck with it and refused to let the Sabbath band die.I won’t buy another product with Ozzies name face or vocal on it.Long live Heaven & Hell.please stay together and make more albums and keep touring while ozzy continues to sell out making crappy albums.Dumb comercials and TV shows

Though Ozzy did help Sabbath’s popularity, mostly by his offstage antics, he never really contributed to the band, lyrically or othewise. As usual, others do the work and Ozzy reaps the profits. Ozzy should quit being a car salesman like sharon wants him to be and go back to being a singer…and shut the hell up.

Sharon is suing me too! She’s pissed that I have a bigger d-i-c-k than she does.

True story.

Iommi is not the nice guy you think he is, his guitar tone now sucks very tinny & he is sue happy.
Take it from an inside source. Ozzy Geezer, Tony Bill should split the name equaly since these are the original fonders & the only ones that made Black Sabbath a legend.

I’ll state my bias up front to say Iommi’s guitar sound is Sabbath. But Geezer Butler is also key to this band as he came up with the name,and wrote most of the lyrics. Not to mention Bill Ward’s jazz influenced drumming, and Ozzy’s voice were factors in the Sabbath sound. It was the sum of four parts coming together at the right time to change music history.
But sorry Ozzy, your wife has led you by the nose once too often. Her business acumen has made you rich but you’ve become the definition of a sell out.
In some ways I can see your point and can overlook the fact that you shot your load creatively after Diary of a Madman… okay No More Tears wasn’t too bad either.But when I see those stupid adverts you did – cellphones, margarine, and god knows what else – and the merchandise overkill at Ozzfest – Ozzy dolls, mousepads, model cars, pens,etc, etc,lame reality shows and performing for the US military,and suddenly I’m not so sympathetic anymore.
But that should not exclude Iommi from being taken to task and I would agree he dragged the band name way too far down in the 80’s-90’s chasing some former glory.
What’s not mentioned is the percentage Tony is paying the other members from merchandise sales bearing their image,if at all.
Still Iommi is the man and The Devil You Know is a good record, Black Rain?…not so much, seems overproduced and tailor made for classic rock radio.
Let it go Ozzy,legally you may have a case, but for once tell Sharon no and try and claw back some dignity.
And for those of you hoping for Tony, Geezer, Bill and Ozzy to get together and tour or record an album, forget it. Ozzy’s voice is shot, it’s done and any record would pale in comparison to their first six albums IMHO.

If its true that they (Ozzy and Sharon) are seeking 50% of the Black Sabbath “brand” then they deserve to be taken out in a parking lot and shot. Ozzy was OBVIOUSLY a part of the 70-78 lineup and was a popular figure. BUT, brass tacks here: He didn’t write lyrics. I believe they were all credited as a band on the majority of material, though. Geezer must be a nice man. Those are about 98% his lyrics on albums 1-8. You can tell any that Ozzy came up with because they suck. Then, you have Iommi’s riffs which have had a Beatles type of impact on Heavy Music since 1970. He wrote the book you’re reading if you play a distorted electric guitar anywhere on planet Earth. This situation sickens me as a lifelong Black Sabbath fan. Tony Iommi is the only one of them that has stuck it out. He’s even TRIED to respect the Sabbath name by making solo albums. I’m not saying that he doesn’t like money either, but I think he also just likes to fucking rock and play guitar and write riffs and the money is a necessary, but troublesome side affair. Sharon Osbourne is a wicked beast of a human being. Screwing Bob Daisley and Lee Kerslake was enough to make me despise her. Someone previously hit it on the head: They didn’t want them to tour with them because: “They didn’t look like poodles”. Hilarious and true. I heard Randy Rhoads was not fond of them either to be fair. He looked poodle-esque himself, though. Bob Daisley pretty much wrote all the lyrics on Ozzy’s first two solo albums…and was a great bassist. Sharon is on a bobsled to Hell…Maybe she can marry a real “Prince of Darkness” there. What a fucking joke those people and their snotnose brats are. Go die Sharon and Ozzy.

I really don’t agree with the whole ‘if it weren’t for ozzy, black sabbath wouldn’t famous’ thing. Its quite the contrary…if it weren’t for tony iommi, no one would even like black sabbath. as for ozzy’s vocals, i love black sabbath but u must admit ozzy’s vocals are shrill and can be annoying. at least ronnie james dio can actually sing. that being said, who do you guys think wrote the majority of the songs associated with black sabbath…both lyrics and music?? TONY IOMMI.

Tony Iommi is Black Sabbath he’s been there from day on. Ozzy quit the band briefly in1977 to be replaced by vocalist Dave Walker then wanted back in Black Sabbath the band left Dave Walker go for Ozzy to record never say die! Then was FIRED!!! in 1979 to be replaced by Dio that was also a major force in Black Sabbath history. Ozzy should have some rights in Black Sabbath but just the era when he WAS IN THE BAND!!! Ozzy does not deserve 50 percent there were 26 members of Black Sabbath & nine vocalist in Black Sabbath over the years of Black Sabbath Tony Iommi should have FULL SAY IN THE FUTURE OF Black Sabbath not Ozzy. Tony if you read this in my opinion you should change the name of Heaven & Hell back to Black Sabbath because you are & always will be Black Sabbath.

Don’t these guys remember where they came from? The music industry nowadays is in shambles. They should focus more on making the industry a better place for REAL TALENT! None of them would make it in the NEW music biz. Not ‘Hollywood’ enough and not ’safe’ enough either. Get back to your roots!

He has no right to the name .Purely an ex vocalist who has pursued his own solo career .Great records were made whilst he was in the band , but downhill performances and unprofessional behaviour resulted in a parting of the ways .As would any working relationship where the unit was let down by a weak link in the chain .A professional singer replaced him ,and the band carried on .I remember seeing them in concert, on the release of Heaven and Hell in 1980 and the show was held up for ages due to Bill being “unable” to play …. He too was later replaced with someone that was able ……Vinny Appice.What we have now is a band in Heaven and Hell that can all do their job ,and all put in 25 percent each to make it work .A true working relationship .Qzzys first 2 albums were great , and we had then Sabbath with Dio , and Ozzy both making good , but different music .
Nowadays the facts are ,that Ronnie , at 67 can still sing (in the true sense of the word) , can put together a sentence ,acknowledges and pleases the paying audience and still respects the Black Sabbath legacy .Ozzy however , does none of these .Sorry ,give up the music ,concentrate on whatever the latest money making venture that you are told to do is , and leave the guys that are still looking after the fans to do their job.

aside from the childish, selfish bickering we all have to agree there is only one REAL Black Sabbath and that is the Tony, Bill, Geezer and Ozzie Quartet. Legally, anything or anyone else should be rejected. Personally I cannot stand to listen ant BLack Sabbath that’s not the original memebrs. I will give Ozzie some credit for keeping the name alive with his version of BS rather than the Dio verison. Its all about the sound. The original 4 are phenomenal musicians in their own right. Collectively, they were the greatest of all time. Divided, they’re a hollow fragment of what we loved as Black Sabbath.

Sad to see it happen but this is what happens when you get to involved on an emotional level with someone and can’t separate that from the music. I agree, I SMELL Sharon!!!!!! I mean, we all know she single handedly and admittedly destroyed the Smashing Pumpkins because they were “too high maintenance”; she managed them and swore to put them into obscurity which is sort of where they’ve been. But Ozzy is still Ozzy. We love him for the music and when you think Black Sabbath you think about those dark unique vocals of his. Also, yes, Dio had a first great album with BS but look at the billboards and reviews and members since that album: more than 3 vocalist and Dio returning time to time. And I can’t name a single song off the top of my head from BS with Dio. I just a matter of who you like better vocally. But I think Sharon should take the bad wrap for this one; as well as them putting out a press release that Wylde was out of the band for good before Zakk had even heard anything about it. I smell Sharon there too! He, the both, still rock though!