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Cat Stevens Considers Lawsuit Over Coldplay’s “Viva La Vida”

5/5/09, 4:57 pm EST

Photo: Kim/Getty(Yusuf), Hogan/Getty(Martin)

The courtroom battle of “Joe Satriani vs. Coldplay” might be getting a little more crowded. Yusuf, formerly Cat Stevens, says he noticed a similarity between his 1973 song “Foreigner Suite” and Coldplay’s Grammy-winning “Viva La Vida” as well. Satriani first accused Chris Martin and Co. off ripping off his song “If I Could Fly” for “Vida,” which resulted in a lawsuit.

“My son brought it to my attention and said, ‘Doesn’t that sound like ‘Foreigner Suite?’ ” Yusuf told Reuters. “The song definitely sounds like it. It has such logical chords and the melody has to be what it is.” While he hasn’t filed any legal papers, he hasn’t ruled out a possible future lawsuit either, adding that “it depends on how well Satriani does.” Satriani is seeking damages from the supposed plagiarism plus any royalties the song accrued which, considering it won a Grammy and soundtracked an Apple ad, is probably a lot of royalties. Conveniently, Yusuf chose the same week to both accuse Coldplay of aping his song and release his new album Roadsinger, which is released today.

While we can hear the obvious similarities between “Viva La Vida” and Joe Satriani’s “If I Could Fly,” the resemblance between “Viva La Vida” and Stevens’ “Foreigner Suite” is less apparent. “Foreigner Suite” is nearly 20 minutes in length, and it isn’t until the start of the 16th minute that something slightly comparable to “Viva La Vida” begins. However, it’s inevitable that a song that long and with that many shifts in style and genre will sound like other songs, and in “Foreigner Suite” we’re pretty sure we hear at least half a dozen Billy Joel songs, the piano coda from Guns n’ Roses’ “Estranged,” some King Tubby dub track and a passing hint of the Killers’ “All These Things That I’ve Done,” before the supposed “Viva La Vida” piano line even kicks in.

Do the two melodies sound similar? Maybe. Do they sound lawsuit similar? Absolutely not. Then again, Coldplay claimed that Satriani’s song “lacked originality” in court, so maybe that’s because “Foreigner Suite” was the original. If “Viva La Vida” is found guilty of plagiarizing Satriani, can Stevens then go and sue Satriani for the money he took from Coldplay? Stay tuned…

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StrummerJones | 5/5/2009, 5:07 pm EST

Stevens actually has something else that sounds closer, but the point of this is that Satriani wasn’t the first to get something like that on a record.

Also, I thought I heard that Cat wasn’t considering a lawsuit. It doesn’t seem like his style.

Crispin | 5/5/2009, 5:34 pm EST

Oh it’s his style all right. He sued The Flaming Lips over the song “Fight Test” I believe

StrummerJones | 5/5/2009, 5:53 pm EST

I thought they just split royalties on that one.

JD | 5/5/2009, 6:47 pm EST

On a similar note, doesn’t parts of the Tears for Fears song “Mad World” sound like parts of “Mathew and Son,” or the verses of “It’s A Sin” by the Pet Shop Boys sound like the verses of “Wild World?”

MZA | 5/5/2009, 10:47 pm EST

Goes to show how some very simple tunes can be copied, consciously and subconsciously, over the course of time.
Most music plagiarism lawsuits are very tricky.

Also, being a writer, I can’t help but think of how many contemporary writers use basic elements from older lit… with or without citing their influences.

As artists, at what point do we stop worrying about lawsuits and focus on creating original works? How do we define “influence” versus “plagiarism”? Too harsh a verdict in a situation like this and we crucify artists who may be innocent… too lenient of a verdict and we risk embracing the copy-cats.

There Are Too Many Lawsuits | 5/5/2009, 11:46 pm EST

Whenever I hear stuff like this it disgusts me. Musicians are such prima donnas. The sad part in all of this is that Coldplay probably considers Cat Stevens one of their heroes and he is just to them that it is all just smoke and mirrors. That is so stupid and we see that too much in music.

gsdklj | 5/5/2009, 11:49 pm EST

I should copyright G major and sue anybody who uses it, or I IV-V. How about that?

... | 5/6/2009, 6:13 am EST

With all do respect to both artists these two songs do have the same exact piano part. Its at the 2:00 minute mark in Viva La Vida and the 15:50 mark in Foreigner Suite. I had never heard of the Cat Stevens song before this, but I actually did quite enjoy it. However, I do not think Coldplay pin-pointed this one specific part of a completely random twenty minute song on a record long lost in time… Viva La Vida is a great song, and with popular music these days we need to be more lenient on wht is considered plagiarism. Music, as literature and other art forms is a bunch of random influences compiled on top of each other over time. This is how art continues to evolve. Plus, most rappers these days don’t even bother righting their own hooks, or making their own beats. They are just re-used 80s synth rock and pop hits.

Hole | 5/6/2009, 9:13 am EST

So can Cat Stevens sue Satriani also?

The Jury | 5/6/2009, 10:07 am EST

The length of the song has nothing to do with it, and a judge will say the same. I listened to them and Cat’s song does sound ripped off. Coldplay is going down. Satch too.

Big Daddy | 5/6/2009, 10:13 am EST

What a bunch of bullshit. Artists take elements from other artists all the time. The worst part of thiss is Yusuf saying he’s going to wait and see how Satch does to decide if he’ll sue-way to stand on your principles shithead. Maybe if you hadn’t exiled yourself all these years you wouldn’t need the money. And Satch-tell you what, we should see if the estate of Robert Johnson can sue Led Zep for stealing his life’s work. Or Muddy Waters estate can sue the Stones for the same reason. Or the Stones can sue the Black Crowes, etc. All these lawsuits are horseshit. If Satch and Yusuf need the money, go out and earn it.

Brad | 5/6/2009, 11:52 am EST

I love Yusuf’s music, but he is doing this for publicity. He had a new album come out on Tuesday and he just wants to get his name back in the headlines to sell more records.

Music | 5/6/2009, 11:55 am EST

There’s only 13 notes that a man can play….

ColdplayFan | 5/6/2009, 12:45 pm EST

I just listened to “If I Could Fly”. If there are any similarities they aren’t very apparent. I can hear some similar rhythm and notes, but it’s ridiculous to think that they copied them. There are only so many music notes out there you know. Plaigarism is ridiculous to consider.

Burnt Crispies | 5/6/2009, 1:04 pm EST

I’m thinking of suing Chris Martin and Coldplay myself. My late grandma (God bless her soul) had a song called “All Day I Dream About Jesus” which is so similar to the melodies heard on “Strawberry Swing” on Coldplay’s Viva La Vida album. I don’t know how Chris Martin knew about my grandma’s song, but I’m gonna sue his ass and rake in the dough!

clench | 5/6/2009, 1:14 pm EST

Please stop the insanity. Every 1 IV V blues progression in thousands of tunes sounds similar. With different lyrics.

Rosevelt Franklin | 5/6/2009, 2:00 pm EST

I think I might sue Coldpaly for pretending to be my Muppet homies

h_e_n_r_y | 5/6/2009, 2:23 pm EST

Satriani and Cat must be musical geniuses because I can’t hear ANY obvious similarities between the 3 songs…

…How The Beatles ["Sexy Sadie"] never sued Radiohead ["Karma Police" chorus], I will never know. Now THERE’S a pretty obvious similarity.

[I love Radiohead]

AidenS | 5/6/2009, 2:28 pm EST

The Cat Stevens one really is barely similar to the Coldplay one – his point about the logical chords and the obvious melody basically screws over his entire argument – it would be hard not to put that melody to those chords, so if Coldplay had never heard Cat Stevens’ song, it would be easy for them to do the same thing without realizing. On the other hand, listen to Satriani’s song, and hell… Even the phrasing is awkwardly similar.

Nick | 5/6/2009, 3:28 pm EST

Billions of pieces of music exist in the world, of course some are going to sound alike. There are only so many combinations of chords, drum patterns, scales, ect that exist. I don’t think “well, it kinda sounds like it” should cut it. You should have to have a complete case like similarities to T-Rex’s “Bang A Gong” and Oasis’s “Cigarettes & Alcohol” or Huey Lewis & The News’s “I Want A New Drug” and Ray Parker jr’s “Ghostbusters”.

ElronHubbard | 5/6/2009, 5:08 pm EST

Cat Stevens/Yuksuk = loser

basser | 5/6/2009, 5:41 pm EST

Does anyone else find it odd that in a time of music sampling and “excessive borrowing,” that the Sat-Coldplay lawsuit and Cat Stevens’ remarks are ironic? I know I heard the piano break of Supertramp’s “Crime of the Century” in a Gym Class Heroes song not too long ago. Does this mean that Green Day should pay royalties to The Clash, who then should pay The Ramones, who should pay The Stooges, who should pay The Who? Where doees it end? Unless it’s a direct ripoff beyond any shadow of a doubt, it’s awfully hard to show that someone ripped off a melody or musical sound. And how come no one but me though, in 1983, that the chorus of ZZ Top’s “Sharp Dressed Man” sounded pretty much identical to Eddie Cochrane’s “Summertime Blues”? Go listen to it again, and you’ll see what I mean. Strange, yes. Lawsuit-worthy, probably not ….

Dude Man | 5/6/2009, 6:54 pm EST

It’s really hard to tell whether a song is a rip-off or just similiar because naturally all artists have influences and sometimes can not help but try and recreate thier sound. Sometimes the rip-offs are better known then the originals, like in “Whole Lotta Love”. Now don’t get me wrong when I say this because I’m a huge Led Zepplin fan, but the the whole vocal track Plant did was just copying The Small Faces(Rest in peace Steve Marriott) cover of “You Need Lovin’”. RHCP’s riff in “Around the World”(1999) sound’s a lot like the one Budgie used in “Breadfan”(1973). Papa Roach’s riff in “Last Resort”(2000) sounds like Iron Maiden’s “Genghis Khan”(1981). As for the Coldplay thing, I’m not really sure what to think yet.

Anonymous | 5/6/2009, 6:58 pm EST

Also, “Smells Like Teen Spirit” is basically a ripped-off mix of “More than a Feeling” and “Godzilla” in my opinion.

Dude Man | 5/6/2009, 7:04 pm EST

Also, “Smells Like Teen Spirit” is basically a ripped off mix of “More than a Feeling” and “Godzilla” in my opinion.

Tom Nions | 5/6/2009, 8:24 pm EST

If anyone heard the radio interview Cat gave they’d understand the comments were tongue in cheek. nevertheless…Satriani and Cat are Legends.

random name | 5/7/2009, 12:07 am EST

Rock music is by nature low art, and so doomed to repeat itself. People need to be a little less stingy.

saltlick | 5/7/2009, 8:23 am EST

Why go to court ?Settle things like the old west.Six-guns at sundown.

GammaLeonis.com | 5/7/2009, 11:24 am EST

I don’t even listen to Coldplay but I’m starting to feel sorry for them. It seems as though ever since My Sweet Lord was really, really obviously He’s So Fine with a new lyric sheet, costing George Harrison a few clams, everybody’s saying “Hey! I hear my song in there!” I’m beginning to feel a strong temptation to quote Rodney King, here!!

eminem | 5/7/2009, 11:50 am EST

oh suck my ass!!

Anonymous | 5/7/2009, 10:05 pm EST

is nothing pure anymore

Dejected and Disillusioned

Tom Wieler | 5/8/2009, 5:31 pm EST

Radiohead should have their lawyers on speed-dial, just in case this suit holds up in court. After all, in 2000 Coldplay re-recorded Radiohead’s the Bends and released it as “Parachutes.”

kevin church | 5/9/2009, 1:12 am EST

liily allen’s Littlest Things is so much Like Cat Steven Wild World amaizing he hasnt noticed

Pam | 5/9/2009, 4:24 pm EST

I have a question: Did Yusuf hear Joe Satriani´s “If I Could Fly” when it was published in 2005? One guitar part is VERY similar to the melody Yusuf played on the piano in 1973. In this case he would have had a reason to accuse Satriani. And why does he accuse Coldplay NOW? I´ve never heard about the battle Yusuf vs. Coldplay before. Or have I missed something? It seems that Yusuf wants to get a piece from a huge cake.

Anonymous | 5/10/2009, 11:24 am EST

This is ridiculous. I just lost respect for what I used to believe was a truly gifted musician–Yusuf needs to sell albums so he throws out another accusation.

Matt | 5/11/2009, 3:01 pm EST

Is Paul McCartney gonna sue them for dressing like Sgt. Pepper?

lucy lou | 5/12/2009, 2:25 pm EST

I agree StrummerJones…Cat haven’t even made a decision to sue Coldplay. The ones calling him names should review history…this has happened many many times. It honestly doesn’t seem like this is his style. Thanks StrummerJones. Don’t sue me because I repeated you. lol jk

Anonymous | 5/13/2009, 1:20 pm EST

cold play is just the worst band ever, its all contrived and copied, they wouldnt be being bothered if they werent such egotistical asses! but i dont even thinks its there fault, i would think i was so great to…its there producers and labels fault, stop feeding this CRAP to the world!

Milu Aman | 5/15/2009, 1:52 am EST

then Cat Stevens should sue Joe Satriani as well… hahaha

JonMichael | 5/17/2009, 2:22 pm EST

Whether it happened on purpose or not – artists should share the royalties based on the evidence and a court judgement. I heard the section in Cat Stevens’s song and it does sound close to Coldplay and Satch also sounds similar. These things could happen subconsiously – it does not matter – pay. Classic music pieces consists of folk songs that have been adapted so this has happened many times before. Disney eventually had to pay royalties for the Lion King song which belonged to a poor black South African. It is only just for using someone else’s song whether this happens consiously or not.

David | 5/18/2009, 11:43 am EST

Cat was talking tongue in cheek. He won’t sue. After all, he would have to get off the Peace Train to do so.

Shane_Dee | 5/24/2009, 7:26 pm EST

Personally, I think that Cat Stevens is a filthy Islam terrorist. BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

whoknew | 6/23/2009, 12:48 pm EST

Coldplay acomplished nothing short of a remarkable performance of this song on the cd. However, judging by the rest of the musicianship on the rest of the cd, one has to assume that they had lots and lots of help. Does that include ripping off other musicians? If yes, then they have to live with that not us. I hope the truth makes its way through this time.

Anonymous | 8/19/2009, 9:23 pm EST

Considering that George Harrison was sued over a chord progression (not even a melody) I think anything is possible in these stupid music plagarism trials.

I like Coldplay and I love Satriani. They’re both good songs. If Coldplay borrowed from Satch they should pay and give a bit of cred and be done with it all. If not, then we’re all good.

fandandyandangle | 9/1/2009, 1:43 pm EST

Cat stevens just loves to get his sue on no? He just split royalties with the lips for fight test though

Ms Music | 9/19/2009, 9:32 am EST

This is totally and utterly ridiculous. a) IT`S 20 MINUTES so it HAS to use the same noteséchordséwhatever at SOME POINT
b)I doubt Viva la Vida consisted of copied music from three different artists. Seriously.

lalala | 11/13/2009, 5:57 pm EST

get a life!

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