And the battle of the douchebags continues. Who’s the ref, Kenny G?

Satriani has become so annoying and obnoxious about this whole thing. I can just imagine Coldplay sitting arounf, listening to his boring ass music, looking for some riff to steal. Yeah right, get a life dude.

And the undercard will feature Noel Gallagher listing every song he ever lifted and a special musical appearance by Bruce Springsteen performing his brand new song “I Was Made for Loving Outlaw Pete.”

This is retarded. They didn’t steal the riff! This is retarded!!

He’d have to prove he wrote the words, much more of the song than a little melody thats been done 100 times before Joe, you stupid crap guitar teacher! go back to long island, hack!

Coldplay…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzz

Coldplay SUCKS!

I think it was an honest mistake. And even if they did steal it, Coldplay totally made it sound better and know how to rock it. They effin’ rule and I love them!

Coldplay is the most overrated band EVER!!!

Coldplay is the most overrated band EVER!!!

Here’s some advice for Coldplay & I bet they already know this: don’t duck this fight-give Joe one of the MANY GRAMMY’S you’ll win Sunday-and maybe a million to shut the f up! Also: from Matthew 5/39-46:” I tell you to resist an EVIL person-but whoever slaps you on the right cheek, turn the other to him also. If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you-do not turn away. You have heard that it was said: “You shall love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.” But I say to you-love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those that hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you. For if you love those who love you-what reward have you?

Quoting scripture after saying shut the f up. Awesome.

Hoagies & grinders, hoagies & grinders
Hoagies & grinders, hoagies & grinders
Navy beans, navy beans, navy beans
Hoagies & grinders, hoagies & grinders
Navy beans, navy beans
Meatloaf sandwich

SLOPPY JOE, SLOP, SLOPPY JOE!
SLOPPY JOE, SLOP, SLOPPY JOE!
SLOPPY JOE, SLOP, SLOPPY JOE!
SLOPPY JOE, SLOP, SLOPPY JOE!
SLOPPY JOE, SLOP, SLOPPY JOE!

Coldplay is ok. Havnt heard much of Joe, but he`s ok. I dont give a fuck. “Coldplay made it better”or “Coldplay would never do that” Arnt Valid excuses. Joes kinda being a dick about it now, but I agree with him and i like coldplay a fair amount but think they should at least admit he wrote the melody.

Whether coldplay stole the song or not, Satriani has a right to sue them! Even the music theory behind the songs are the same.

Whether coldplay stole the song or not, Satriani has a right to sue them! Even the music theory behind the songs are the same. Satriani is the best guitarist who has EVER lived, coldplay probably copied the song.

Hey, has anybody ever heard, “My Love” by Petula Clark. It’s different, yet somehow, in the smallest way, the same.

This is for the guy who called Satriani a hack. Who are you to be calling Satriani a hack. He is one of the greatest guitarst to have ever lived. He has inspired so many people. If hes a hack, then what are you! You said that just because you like coldplay….?!

For those wannabe musicians on this comment page. It is not commuting copyright fraud if the chords of the song are not all the same. The viva song is in a completely different augment and has more progressive chord changes. And the biggest clue of all…the copied part is in LYRICS! If I could fly is on guitar not sung in words. And if you notice, satrianis songs…he sucks he just plays a bunch of crap with out any rhythm in different tempo and chords. Talk about crappy improv. Atleast coldplay has a sense musicianship with classic crescendos and marks. I am a coldplay fan, but the truth is theTRUTH. And I’m sure satriani hasn’t studied law either. Dumb***

Only a deaf idiot will deny Coldplay ripped off Joe Satriani. “If I could fly” song written by Joe is SO CATCHY anyone remember the song the 1st time they hear it! David and the guy “ANONYMOUS” what’s your age? 13 I think! You don know about Joe bcoz while you guys were sucking milk bottles Joe was WIN Grammys!!! Coldplay, just PAY OFF Joe’s share! After all without Joe inspiring you there won’t we “Viva La Vida” So respect to Joe, he has been doing music long before you!!!!

do ppl honestly think coldplay is stupid enough to steal music?

coldpaly are a bunch of theif! lol

coldpaly are a bunch of thief! lol

I’ve heard Satriani’s song in an elevator and Coldplay’s at the mall.

Rock and roll music has been around for over 60 years now.

There are only so many notes, and so many chords.

After the millions and millions of songs that have come out since music began, basically every combination of notes and chords has already been taken. Eventually you are going to re-write somebody else’s song, whether you realize it or not.

To Anonymous:

And even if they did steal it, Coldplay totally made it sound better and know how to rock it.

You cannot be serious! Coldplay’s a bunch of talentless puds.

Joe Satriani’s one of the great musicians of all time. His worst stuff is a million times better than anything Coldplay ever did.

They know how to rock it? They don’t even play rock. It’s bubble-gum pop crap.

Coldplay is the Anti-Rock. They should be called Coldcrap. Or Coldfart. Or Coldpuke. ,,,,,these guys suck ass and so do the turds who think they “rock”. What a joke.

wow, “stupid”.

You are one creative dude.

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Gee, I think that Alphamoondoggy is on to something. It could be that Petula Clark Has something on Joe Satriani. Give a listen at the address below…
I had to put spaces in the address in order for it to post here…I think you can figure it out.

Joe Satriani basically plays music that only the guitar nerds at the instrument stores enjoy. Total guitar masturbation without any real emotion.

Coldplay, plays music, heavy on emotion, but not a whole lot of technical skill.

I was trying to make a point, but I forgot what it was.

SATRIANI SUCKS! “VIVA LA VIDA” HAS INSTRUMENTAL FROM “IF I COULD FLY”? VIVA LA VIDA IS A WORK OF ART. AND IF I COULD FLY IS A WORK OF AN ASSHOLE, STUPID GUITARST.

actually they both suck and anyone who gives a shit is a moron

lol, Coldplay are hacks. They have little talent and their only fans are tween girls and boys (though you can’t tell which are the boys and which are the girls).

I also like how all the Coldplay tweens are pretending they know anything about music theory. I guess it makes sense that a band that knows next to nothing about music theory would have fans who are very much the same in that regard.

Anyone who claims a song with vocals can’t be a copy or a re-arrangement of an old song is a complete moron and will never have anything to do with music – not even as a hobby because that just reeks of musical ignorance.

A couple of bands are saying Coldplay lifted from them. I can’t wait for a court to decide.

Coldplay are good at writing pretty songs. I’ll give them that. However, I absolutely despise the sentimentalism of their work and their inability to move beyond writing the same song over and over. And I hate Chris Martin. Name another musician who would go on the cover of RS alone and without his bandmates upon the relase of a new album.

Joe’s been making music for 20 plus years and is still going and his music will live on forever…I just heard of Coldplay a couple years ago and their music is just a fad, like most of the music these days…here today and gone tomorrow! So go fuck yourselves if you don’t know what your talking about…you Coldplay fans probably also watch American Idol. Coldplay or American Idol, whats the difference?

I’ve listened to both songs.
Same tempo and rythm.
same chord progression.
same melody,
ect..
so…
well if anyone actually listens to both, you realise that there is no way that this is a coincidence.
and anyhow
coldplay are overrated and undertalented.
i hope satriani wins.
oh ya.

Satriani is a boring ass guitar professor and Coldplay make the musical equivalent of a chick-flick. Who cares about either of these crumbs. Eject your “guitar for dummies” dvd, turn off MTV and go outside…

I’d be pissed if someone stole something of mine as well. This is quite blatant too.

Who the hell who said U2 and Radiohead should suit Colplay is a douche. People get inspired or get ideas from other music, okay??
It is called inspiration.
And do you think it took 3 years for Coldplay to rip off Satriani? (He is one of the guitar gods, no offense)
you Douche bags.

Joe has better song writing talent than Coldplay. Although coldplay has embellished the theme the core that Joe wrote is still there.

All this case proves is that Coldplay and Satriani are BOTH guilty of making crappy music.

Facts are facts. Listen to both songs, listen to the mash-up on youtube. It’s obvious that the entire musical part of the song was ripped from Joe. Blatantly ripped.

Put yourselves in Joe’s shoes. How would you feel if this happened to you?

Here’s some advise to aspiring musicians, writers, poets…etc… If you think you’ve come up with a brilliant idea, do you’re research before releasing it. Even Paul McCartney checked and double checked if his melody for Yesterday wasn’t just someone else’s piece of music that he just casually heard.

Don’t mind my grammar. I’m sleepy

well i guess they won the right category for this, Song of the Year, which is given for song writing. not sure how they coudl give this grammy to a song that is in such a controversy. But then the grammy’s suck. after bearing with it for 3 and a half hours, they cut off robert plant?!?!?

The 2 songs, while quite similar in that one part, I don’t really think can be said to blatantly be stolen.
Knowing a bit of Coldplay’s music pedigree, I sincerely doubt they listen to Satriani (or Vai, or Malmsteen). U2, they steal from so much; Oasis, unbearably so. But a heavy metal, jazz fusion instrumentalist? I just don’t think so.
Also, Satriani (Satch as he likes to call himself, as in Satchmo, as in Louis Armstrong; *rolls eyes*), played that brief melodic line as a means to get to a suffocatingly boring solo (which is what all these guitar virtuosos do). So IF Coldplay nicked that lick, then kudos must be given to Coldplay for sitting through so many of Satriani’s albums to find the one melodic line worth stealing.
If Coldplay weren’t so huge, this wouldn’t even have an issue. I would really like to have Satriani answer the question if every musical idea he ever recorded is completely original?
Has anyone heard the Sum41 song that is note for note a rip off of Coldplay’s “The Scientist?” Why doesn’t Coldplay sue Sum41? Maybe they have a bit more class. The chords, most of the melody, song structure (dynamics), is so similar, it’s crazy.
But on the flipside, when the Rolling Stones recorded “Has Anybody Seen my Baby?” in the 90’s, Keith played it for his kids before the album was released, and the kids started singing k.d. lang’s “Constant Craving” over the chorus of the Stones song. So just before the album went to the presses, Keith had her added to the writing credits of the song, knowing that a lawsuit may follow. The song and album are not great, but when you’re that big, you make sure you cover your butt.
I wonder how Pat Metheny feels about Satriani? Or what about John McLaughlin? I’m sure they’d have something interesting to say about Satriani.
It’s all so silly, but kinda fun to talk about.
Rock da Casbah!

Hey Frat boys and girls !

First of all, you all look like The Peanuts. ( who are The Peanuts ? )

Guess what, you are all tastless idiots if you listen to Craplay garbage !

Joe Satriani is a guitar LEGEND ( no , not John Legend, or is it John Mayer, who also blows ~ they all sound the same and look the same ? )

Joe is a musician who knows HOW TO PLAY an instrument amazingly well, and has been around for decades. He just does’nt ” plink ” on a piano that he had since the 1st grade,and play one drum and hit a bell ( what the heck was that ? )

Then the wankers even had the nerve to dress up like the Beatles did on the Sergeant Pepper’s album cover with Sir Paul McCartney sitting right there ~ you morons !

When is this generation of trendy ” wear a tire in your ear lobe ” dingbats going to realize that STEALING melodies from REAL artists is NOT COOL ~ write your own crap ~ if you can ! ! ( what’s a melody ? )

Will anyone know who Craplay is thirty years from know ~ duh !

If Hendrix heard Satch shred on the guitar ( it’s an instrument that has strings on it Frat Crappers ) he would rise from the dead and say, ” Joe ~ WOW ! ”

See ya in court for plagiarism ~ ha ha ! !

Jimi Hendrix is a legend because you can stop anyone on the street and they can hum you a Hendrix riff, 30 years after he’s dead! You ask anyone on the street who Satriani is no one heard of him unless you stop some pimply teen on his way to work at Guitar Center. Satriani is wack.

Wow shut the fuck up, joe “ripped” off a few notes from some fuckin beaners that came before him. If he’s soooooo good, where are his hit song nominations? Not at the grammys coldplay doesn’t need to borrow anyones shit when they are original in their own way

I like both Coldplay and Satriani but lets all face the facts. It actually take talent to play Joe’s music. On the other hand my 11 year old daughter who just started playing guitar last year can play Coldplay. That just go’s to show there musical talent. Joe has had some of todays biggest guitar players come to him for lessons, can’t say the same for Coldplay. Just to name a few, Kirk Hammett from Metallica, Larry LaLonde from Primus, David Bryson from Counting Crows, Steve Vai, Alex Skolnick formally of Testiment, Charlie Hunter a very accomplished guitar player and musician and that was just a few. Do your research on any of the above and you will see there talent also. As far as I am concerned Coldplay should feel honored to be listed in the same sentence as Joe Satriani. I can feel where Joe is coming from. For any of you out there that say Joe’s music is Blah…you must know didily squat about music and what a true musician is. Just because Coldplay is a popular group does not make them good artist. Just listen to hip-hop and you will see what I mean. Musical talent, no I do not think so. It just go’s to show how boring the average listner is. Most of the muscis today that is popular is lacking instrumental talent. Boring society = boring musical taste as far as popularity go’s. If the grammy’s where based on music talent and difficauly then half of the nominee’s would not even be there! Some do belong there! I could go on all day about this. JRW

Coldplay plan to change their name to Coldplagiarism.

You ” go ” JRW ~ I could’nt have said it better !

Joe said in a statement that it took him years to perfect that song he had written for his wife before he recorded it ~ it takes Kane East two seconds to say, ” Say Yeah ”

Hip Hop my ass ~ and this Gospel yelping crap ~ guess what musical idiots ~ IT’S NOT MUSIC !

Winning a Grammy doesn’t mean the hack that wins is talented ~ heck, MC HammerHead won one once. And Kid Rock ~ cut me a break. What is this redneck crap ?

I couldn’t believe I saw Charlie Haden at this Grammy nonsense ( a legendary jazz bassist, for all of you Wolf Wolf lookin’ maroons ! )

Try listening to a Grammy winning musician called Pat Metheny, that is if you can handle his complex writing and playing style ~ or Bach , for that matter ~ dumb asses !

Heck, RUSH, the greatest band EVER, has been nominated many times and never one ONE ~ what’s that tell you you dumb ” Hip Hopping Say Yeah Amercian Idol Watching Charlie Brown Baggy Pant Wearing Tattooed Wear An Innertube In Your Ear Pierced Lip Synching Wannabees ? ”

Write your own crap ~ this music of today takes seconds to write ~ oh, that’s right, they just ” help themselves ” to Joe Satriani’s music, they don’t have to write music anymore. ( or should I say they CAN’T write music even if they had to ~ they ALL suck ! ! ! )

And by the way, Kathy Perry, or whatever her dumb name is ~ has NO talent as well ~ nor did she write that stupid ass song !

PUT YOUR LITTLE HAT ON STRAIGHT ~ THE HAT THING IS WAY OVER NOW FRAT BOYS AND CRIMINALS ! !

” Long Live Classical Music “

It is obvious that some of you think that someone else must suck because you prefer something else or different. Let me make myself clear, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one!

For those of you who say that Satriani sucks really shows your immaturity and/or lack of any musical knowledge whatsoever. Survey any true musician (true meaning, musically trained, or knows more than just a few bar chords) and ask them if Satriani is a bad guitarist and see how many say he is (you won’t find many). Those who think Coldplay sucks are at fault too. They are not my prefered band to listen too, but for some people they are, and that’s ok and doesn’t make them suck either.

You all need to stop lashing both artists and get to point here. And the point is that Coldplay’s song is very similar to Satriani’s. Plain and simple. If you can’t hear it, then you are either deaf, or just too arrogant to believe.

Cheers

“The viva song is in a completely different augment and has more progressive chord changes. ”

No it’s not, and no it doesn’t.

“And the biggest clue of all…the copied part is in LYRICS!”

Doesn’t matter.

“And if you notice, satrianis songs…he sucks he just plays a bunch of crap with out any rhythm”

Wow, great academic criticism there. Isn’t it your bedtime yet?

It’s funny that the most intelligent responses you people can come up with is “HES STUPID RETARDED GUITAR CRAPHEAD >:(!!!!11!1!111! COLDPLAY ROX \m/ XDXDXD”.

And it doesn’t have anything to do with lyrics. Oh wait, you probably don’t even know what the difference between a melody and a harmony and a chord are, and are just repeating what you saw some dumbass say in a youtube comment. Jesus christ, you people are retarded.

Coldplay truly is the most overrated band ever…truly vanilla..I could barely stand watching the lip synching in the kindercare Sgt. Pepper jackets…I likened it to the Mickey Mouse Club…very sad…by the way, the term douchebag is a perfect way to describe Coldplay, thanks for the tip!

Ok..you guys saying Coldplay ’stole’ the song are just haters. Guess what though!? I HAAAAAATE Coldplay. They should be called ‘Coldpuss’ in my opinion.
But alas, I’m a musician that writes music and I will tell you that Coldplay DID NOT steal Satriani’s lame tune.
Plagarism means ripping off..the only thing that IS the same is the first 3 notes and rhythm. Yeah, some other stuff ’sounds’ the same but it’s different.
Also, I liked Satriani until this bs. You can’t compare Coldpusses musicianship to his. But when you’re that jealous of an overrated ‘Puss’ band to sue them when you know you have just 3 notes to go on, it reaaaaaly makes you look bad. Welcome to the primadonna guitar club Joe…you suck harder then Coldpuss now…pathetic.

As far as Im concerned, after listening to those 2 songs put together, only the first 2-3 chords sounds alike, but after that it is completely different. I can’t say who my sources are, but according to coldplay they have the evidence to prove it is their own song, including copyright documents, stating back to date after they produced the song, as well as a heap of other producers, etc who are willing to testify. It doesn’t affect me whatever the outcome is, but what I would like to see who was wrong. Did the 1 steal someone else’s song, or did the other party seek attention, because of a lacking media focus on he’s career. Don’t get me wrong, Im not choosing sides and will never do so. Both of them are magnificent artists who deserve to be where they are

Having technical skill and memorizing does not make you a great “musician”. A song being “hard” does not make it “better” than a song that is not. I’m really amazed at these people who think they are such music experts but they don’t understand the value of music is not in the “hardness” of playing it. This is like saying a photo-realistic painting is better than an abstract painting because it’s “harder” to paint photo-realistic. That completely misses the point of art. All these so-called “experts” who think musical talent is directly related to how fast your fingers are need to go study some anthropology and psychology so they can really understand the role music plays in society. I mean you claim to dedicate yourself to music but you don’t understand these things? Baffling.

Some of the commentary on here is laughable at best. As a person who works in the music industry and listens to a variety of music, as well as works with a lot of musicians, there is NOT one musician I know of that has NOT heard of Joe Satriani. Joe is a guitar legend and ANY rock music fan or person studying rock music HAS at one point in their life listened to his music. Cold Play themselves have acknowledged his legendary musician status, so for those of you to say they have not heard of him or listened to his “boring” music aren’t even paying attention to what has been stated. I am fan of both because I appreciate music that they create, however it is quite obvious listening to both songs that there are clear similarities.

Real guitarists know about and respect Joe Satriani. Anyone with an ear can hear how the Coldplay “sampled” Satriani’s song. If rappers can be sued for taking other people’s music without permission, the same should go for Coldplay.

Hardcore Coldplay fans have entered the realm of Britney Spears fans in kneejerk sophmoric defense of their favorite artists.

this whole Coldplay/Satriani thing has me reminded of something the late Richard Wright (of Pink Floyd) said (it may have been Gilmour, i dont recall). He said, people who are good only at playing instruments, will always be doomed to copying other people’s music. He said (about the Floyd), that it was a good thing that they (the floyd) couldn’t play well, because that is what kept them making original music.

I believe Steven Wilson holds the key. Coldplay are wankers.

Have any of you ever even written a song?

Do you realize how IMPOSSIBLE it is to make a musical sound that hasn’t been done by SOMEBODY?

Do you realize how HARD it is to stop the flow of ideas you have? They all come from your subconcious, they could sound like something you heard once, and you won’t even notice until a friend points it out to you.

In honesty, these two songs aren’t very similar. Satriani is a fantastic guitar player, though not to my tastes (too much showing off his skills, in my opinion)Coldplay’s song is good, catchy, interesting, not the best, though. And let’s face it, the “first” person to use this was probably some classical composer from 100+ years ago. Part of being a musician is getting inspiration from OTHER musicians. If any of you had written a song, you would understand where I’m coming from.
Even if Coldplay HAD heard this song, it’s just another of thousands of variations on the same theme that’s been in existance for probably at least a hundred years, no matter how underused. Music is all about making sounds and melodies and lyrics YOUR OWN PEICE OF MUSIC, even if you got the idea from someone else. You don’t see anyone getting angry at Z-Z-Top for stealing “Stairway to Heaven” from Spirit.

Give it a rest. Listen to the music you want to listen to, no need to bash one band or another.

Look, what are you guys talking about, saying that Joe is a great guitarist and he’s a legend is like saying brittany spears didnt shave her head because she’s got childern. Its not changing anything to say that he’s a great guitarist. So if he wasn’t a great guitarist then this would be BS? yeah, right. and then theres people saying that coldplay is bland and that what they wore to the grammys was too much like sargent pepper. Well, then i guess i missed the part where paul mccartney jumped out and decided to sue coldplay for there outfits.And Not all Music is gonna be heavy metal or punk rock. I listen to linkin park, and i know that type of music, but i listen to clamer music as well. And coldplay is, from what i can see is a band like that. JUST BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE HEAVY METAL MUSIC DOESNT MAKE THEM BAD! its a different type of music!

Now i Know joe satrianni well(love his songs ), and i like all of his songs, but i dont see what his big deal is. There isnt enough notes to get a good case, and the him and his lawyers last comments were really dick-like.

In the words of the late and great, Frank Zappa….

” Most people wouldn’t know good music if it came up and bit them in the ass. ”

Suggestion all Coldplay wallys ~

First of all, you’ve ALL been bitten on the ass ~ try listening to a the band ” Porcupine Tree ” masterminded by the great Steven Wilson if you want to hear who started this New British Wave of Rock Music way back in 1993 !

By the way ( ? ) Joe Satriani IS NOT METAL ~ get a grip you Peanuts look-a-like !

And yes, I write music ~ tons of it, actually.

Joe Satriani ~ ” Not Of This Earth ” ~ check out that CD as well !

Where did it go wrong in this music business anyway ~ what is all this shit ????

I have resisted passing comment on this subject ever since i heard and i must admit i wouldn’t have known about it but it was spread all over the news,it even made The Times the other day.Joe started playing guitar just two years before me and some of the things Joe can do with the guitar i had been doing many years before i had heard of Joe Satriani.Even Dr Vai has been accused of sounding like joe over the years.we all at some time take influence from our peers and is usually considered a mark of respect and admiration.Yes Coldplay have at some stage heard this track,more than likely there guitarist,and they should have admitted it in the first place but then Joe should have just smiled and said “yes Ive heard it”. they are beige they are bland but some people like bland plus they won’t be around anywhere as long as Joe.
let them have their Grammy it means nothing.i do hope this whole saga is settled amicably as it is like Being subjected to a Jerry Springer show and it is unfortunately going to damage the reputation of both parties whatever the outcome,it also upsets me to know that the profession i have enjoyed for so long has been brought down to school yard level.

I’m a huge satch fan and i think they’re way to similar. Maybe not enough to win the case, but still, its ethics. Viva La Vida is un original Coldplay is cool but not as inovative as Joe.

Obviously this is BS. Remember the first time that Coldplay almost got sued for this SAME song? Creepy Boards failed because Coldplay copyrighted it before Creepy Boards played the song. That meant that COLDPLAY AND JOE would have been able to sue that band! Coldplay decided not to. But joe then sued coldplay, and not Creepy Boards? That pretty much proves that this is just an excuse for attention for joe’s already BOMBED carrier as a until now unheard of guitarist.

Me thinks Mr Satriani wants a little attention at the expense of Coldplay…but he’ll never have their success. He’s a douche bag.

I’m not a big Sat fan or Coldplay fan. I respect both of them for their relevance in our culture, but I have no loyalty to either side in this case.

That being said, I’ve seen a lot of arguments here so far that are in total contradiction with themselves.

There are many people here who are supporting the notion that Coldplay ripped off Joe, who then go on to cite Joe’s legendary technique and elaborate musicianship. Meanwhile, they’re deriding Coldplay’s writing and performing quality.

Here’s the flaw in that logic:

IF COLDPLAY ARE INCAPABLE OF PERFORMING AT JOE’S LEVEL, THEN THEIR SONG CAN’T POSSIBLY BE A RIP OFF!

Bottom line – if they’re not talented musicians, their song couldn’t mimic something as complex and technical as a Sat song, ergo no plagiarism.

Opie and Anthony had 1 of their listeners over lap the 2 songs and it is amazing how well the 2 songs mesh. I tried to find a link to post but failed to do so….sorry.

I found something. It’s not the 1 that was on O&A but I think it may make my point even if the timing of this 1 is off a bit youtube.com/watch?v =-tWjja5HIWU

Won’t let me post the whole link. Just put the w’s in front of youtube.

Search youtube “Coldplay Copy Satriani” 7th from top. Wont let me post link.

I guess it did let me post it. Sorry for all of the posts.

the two songs are similar yeah. but i don’t know a single person who listens to satriani besides myself – most of the people i know don’t even know who he is. what are the odds coldplay heard his tune before they wrote theirs? pretty slim i think.

Joe Satriani is extremely talented and successful (doesn’t necessarily need attention)

Coldplay is talented as well.

He wrote the original song and piece years earlier

What they’ve recorded and had massive success, from a musical note and chord progression perspective IS the same

I believe they owe Joe something for this

Conversely, Joe’s song has no lyrics. Coldplay’s song does, and that part of it, they own.

Music is Joe’s
Lyrics are Coldplay’s
Performance is Coldplay’s
Marketing and Distribution is Coldplay’s label ( and no-one would hear without the label backing and pushing it down our throats at nauseum )

Thats my opinion anyway.

To ‘huh?’

Much of the popular music industry is wound very tight. More so than you’d believe. And Satch is a renowned guitarist, worldwide regardless of ‘MTV’ popularity or other mainstream BS.

I think Noonsun is totally right. This song was probably done like, 100 years ago and then changed a bit from 1 person, and so on, and we may never know who REALLY wrote this or whatever, so just listen to the 1 u like best but don´t rat out the other person. It could be one way or the other. You NEVER know. And yah, it is really hard to write a song that doesn´t have 1 part of it that sounds like another song. A lot of stuff has been written. Keep that in mind. Let the planet live in peace. o and, GO GREEN! i no thats so off topic. sorry

Coldplay got permission for a riff before, why would they not do it again and risk getting sued? They wouldn’t. To many money hungry people in this world just want to go rain on somebody’s parade. Oh well.

Coldplay = a bunch of douchebags

There are similarities between coldplays Vive la vida and Satriani’s If I could fly, but have you heard Cat Stevens (Yusuf Islam’s 1973 song Foreigner Suite?
Sounds like Joe ripped of Cat, but it took him ten years to do it.
Cat might sue them both.

Snoozeplay

hey Coldplay is a classy band..Chris Martin and gang can write songs and play music..They do not need to “steal” from others..who the heck is Joe Santriani anyway..who cares??? Coldplay is the best band since the Beatles..

Definitely a copied music .I know how hard it was for satch to compose such an artwork ,and watching these bastards copying would have broken his heart.
FYI everybody knows joe satriani.I can bet that anyone who love guitars love joe satriani.

Coldplay is a pop, self-absorbed band that ran out of ideas and stole some from real musician. Joe Satriani is profissional who doesn’t compose for those who don’t understand music, so it’s very easy not to know him, as many people, who credits Coldplay wouldn’t know karlheinz Stockhausen!
Mediocracy sells nowadays while quality music is downrated.

It amazes me that Satch can be such a good player but understands nothing about music. Only an idiot or the musically illiterate would think Coldplay ripped of Satriani. Its a common progression that has been used for years, something that UTube can show in 5 minutes. What a pathetic ego.

Hmmm looks like the only things coldplay fans seem to think that will prove coldplay is innocent is name calling and saying nobody knows who satriani is…tht is desperate

It seems illogical that Coldplay would rip-off a riff from a well known guitarist like satriani. They have previously asked permission to use riffs, why wouldn’t they now? Why risk it with such a relatively big artist?

Why the hell would Coldplay give Joe a grammy?!?!?!?!?!!?!!!!!

One of their songs has vaguely similar elements to a tiny bit at the start of this one. Big whoop. Their music is way better. This guy is alright, sure, but if he’s so amazing and Coldplay r dump like a lot of you fruitcakes are saying, why didn’t he get showered with awards?

And can all of these “hardcore guitarists” stop sucking this guy’s dick. He’s just jealous because Coldplay are so successful and he wants a piece of the pie in any way possible. Bit cheap really…

Getting angry now about all these dicks rambling on about “music theory” – who gives a crap! Just because thats something you like to do, it doesn’t all of a sudden make you better than everyone else when it comes to appreciating music, as you seem to think.

OK, think that’s it. Was good to let it all out.

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If we support British ignorance we are stupid, if anyone believe that Coldplay stole this wonder piece of music we are stupid, if we, like myself, have rain of tears and happiness with any of those truth speak for as.

I see some joke from mobile phone on Youtube when Coldplay in Canada leader said -this one we stole from Steve Vai- and i dont want to see Steve laugh on that. Why? Just becouse of Steve huge support U2 NIN and other big pop and unpop goal in history, but in my opinion Coldplay dont have enough…… to understand Vai, Zappa, Vernon, Zakk, Satch, Howe, Rabin, Trent etc but football is not a soccer and vice versa. Hail to new thinking from Czech Republic.

The melody to the Coldplay verse is very similar to a section in the Satriani piece.
Were the two both inspired to write the same tune? Quite likely. Was anything copied or plagiarized? Doubtful.
Musical possibility is endless, but two people writing the same melody is very common.

I bet Chris Martin heard “If I Could Fly” playing in an elevator somewhere, got the tune in his head for a while, forgot about it and then much later it came out during a jam session with the band.
That’s happened to me before. My band was playing a riff and I started singing over it and they stopped and said “That tune you’re singing is from a Prince song.” Oops. I thought I was just making it up from scratch.
My point is that I really doubt Coldplay “stole” that melody from Joe Satriani, but perhaps they were unwittingly influenced by it.

Satriani is a great musician, not just a mindless guitarist and u have no right to say he sucks cuz u can’t apreciate creative music useless fucks.

I just found this article by chance. Here’s my opinion:
Anyone who knows who Coldplay is, but does not know who Joe Satriani is, is a massive douche and should never comment on music ever again, period.

Joe Satriani does not need attention, he’s already beyond the point where publicity doesn’t matter to him anymore.

Yes, the progression of the notes can be the same, but when it’s in the same key, same tempo, and same rhythm; then there’s a problem. Which it is.

Coldplay is a great band, with great music. Joe is just a showoff. Wether they actually copied it, I dont know but if they did they managed to turn a crappy song into a hella great song

his lawsuit, which asked for “any and all profits” the band earned off their Grammy-nominated song.

Joe is an a*s. The two songs indeed show similarities, but somehow viva is just a way better song. Joe just wants ppl to j*ck off on his guitar skills, while coldplay actually makes songs which have some emotional meaning.

I like Coldplay, I like Satriani but the first time I heard “If I Could Fly” I was kinda shocked because the chorus of “Viva la Vida” has TOTALLY the same notes in the vocals like in Satrianis song.
Those who are writing that satriani’s an a*s should maybe listen to the songs cause im sure they havent and don’t even know what the f**k they are talking about.
Listen to the two songs and then write.

and by the way to some idiot who wrote that it’s the vocals that are the same and that “If I could fly” hasn’t got any vocals. Melody is melody you a*s and this isn’t music theory, it is common sense.

Losers on this board. Both Coldplay and Joe are laughing at all of you, counting their money.

satriani sucks big time. coldplay doesn’t need to steal from him. they’re brilliant, best band in the world. joe will lose. loser.

regardless of how joe is acting, coldplay stole the melody, hands down ripped off Satriani. This is the same exact shit that happened when Lars Ulrich went after Sean Fanning and napster, yea Lars was a prick about it but honestly, he was right and i wish more people could have seen that