I suppose that I should sue Coldplay too. I mean, the stars shined for me and they were all yellow BEFORE the song came out, amirite?

Coldplay should give all of us some of their profits, for having to put up with Chris Martin’s mopey, whiny ass for the last 8 years.

I think Creaky Boards sounds similar, but this one has just the little line. If they ripped off one of them, that’s plausible, but clearly not both of them. Why is this Joe Satriani not suing Creaky Boards? Oh, yeah…

There’s a lot of precedent for this. George Harrison lost in court over “My Sweet Lord.” The Rolling Stones gave a last minute co-credit to k.d. lang for one of their songs that sounds exactly like “Constant Craving.” The Verve lost to the Stone within a year. Coldplay should have settled…it’s just too close to the Satriani song.

I hear Ricky Martin wants to sue Coldplay also because the Coldplay album title of “Viva La Vida” sounds too similar to “Living La Vida Loca” and Ricky Martin thinks Colplay stole the album title from his great song. Damn, what is this world coming to.

actually said he got his email box flooded with die hard fans noticing this. we all know that’s a lie. it took this long for one person to notice it. Probably his wife.

if you can listen to both songs and honestly think coldplay didn’t copy satriani, then get yourself an ear transplant cuz you must be deaf. its obviously a rip.

Steve | 12/8/2008, 11:25 am EST

Coldplay should give all of us some of their profits, for having to put up with Chris Martin’s mopey, whiny ass for the last 8 years.

Amen.

If one were to make a list of 1,000 bands/ artists that influence Coldplay’s songwriting, Satch – umm, how do I put this – would not be on that list.

Not a big Coldplay fan, but c’mon… This is the stretch of the century.

If anyone should be suing Coldplay, it’s Radiohead, U2, or Travis.

I can’t believe this. Coldplay is one of the most original bands ever. First U2 rips off their songs, then Radiohead steals their sound, and now Joe Satriani has the audacity to write the same song 4 years earlier.

The first time I heard “Fix You” off of their last record, I thought they were just doing a really sappy version of “Were is my Mind” by the Pixies. Frank Black ought to get his lawyer on the line.

We all know Coldplay sucks

and also recently Nickelback steals the name of a George Harrison album “Black Horse”

I have a hard time believing ANYONE in Coldplay is a Satch fan. Just a Cowinkiedink.

It’s really good to see a real rocker go after one of these whiny, talentless pop shills like ColdPlay (I see the Grammys have lowered their standards again and given one to these poseurs) for stealing their material. Coldplay wouldn’t know an original song if it bit them in the a$$. Go Joe!

U2 and Radiohead steal Coldplay’s sound??? What planet are you living on? Coldplay owes their career to those two bands. Coldplay sounds similar to both of them.

I think that was meant to be sarcasm.

Radiohead ripped off Coldplay. What an amazing theory! Most Radiohead fans, like myself, would have never considered the thought that Radiohead would be anything short than the most original band since Zappa. Thank you for that, that was a really bold and creative statement to make. And screw it, I’m with you, man!

yeah ummm, notice he says “Now Joe Satriani rips off Coldplay 4 years earlier”……that’s impossible. Say that statement out loud if it isn’t registering for you. His post was a big joke that went totally over both of your heads.

I really doubt Coldplay ripped off Satch, I doubt they listen to Satch. I’m pretty sure they enjoy music that doesn’t involve so much ummm what’s the word……”shredding”

Satch is going to lose money to his lawyers. Tempo is close and the chord changes are somewhat similiar but not really that close. Sometimes songs sound alike. It happens.

coldplay blows man ive seen Satriani shred, they should give him all the grammy’s their ever bought. If I had a dollar for everytime I had to take a piss while listening to yellow, bill gates would clean my shit.
peaceeee

Someone should let the abc song know what twinkle twinkle little star did to it… for real though this is a pretty obvious steal for them. If only they stayed smart and changed the progression a little. One chord? Is that too much to ask?

This is like saying that Cheap Trick should sue Poison for the similar guitar rifts in “She’s Tight” and “Talk Dirty to Me” … more to come

thats too bad…I try to say im a huge coldplay fan, but i only like their first one, which was awesome, and the followup album was decent. The last two have sucked….

Coldplay stealing from this C-List musician is ridiculous. I can imagine Chris Martin… walking around a museum looking at paintings and listening to Satriani and Dream Theatre on his iPod. Give me a break.

I was interested in hearing his collabo with Sammy Hagar but now I think he’s a joke. Go shave your head and learn to sing…

You guys are he-freaking-larious. You are defending Coldplay,,,,,,this is kinda like saying that Airsupply rocks,,,,,,you guys are,,,,way stupid.

LOL, he wants all profits? WOW well he better just be careful anyone ever heard of a band called ENANITOS VERDES? Well they have a song called FRANCES LIMON from 2001 that sounds just like Joe Santriani and Cold Plays song. A lot like Cold Plays song let me tell you. So if anyone is going to sue it should be them. Wouldnt it be Karma if they sued this Joe guy for any and all profits he made? I guess people just cant understand that these 4 chords will somehow in other music with similar melody will repeat. Pretty soon everyone will want to sue!! So sad

I agree, Coldplay should have settled, they could have had Satch up to jam with them, admit that the songs are VERY MUCH the same but that it was not intentional – the you tube where they are both playing at the same time is cooler than either song on it’s own

I’m a guitarist and a big fan of both musicians. I’ve studied Satriani for years. They are both great in their own respect. I’m not saying that Coldplay did or didn’t copy The Satch. But hey they are pretty damn close aren’t they? I can understand Joe’s point. That melody is unmistakably Satch. I know what its like to have a catchy melody ripped off of me and yeah it sucks. But even being a big a fan of Satriani, I think he is going a little overboard with “any and all profits.” Speaking outside this I wish people wouldn’t slash Satriani. He’s an accomplished musician and has been for decades. So please know the facts before you say he’s a no name guitarist. As for Coldplay these guys are great too. Just because certain music isn’t your taste doesn’t mean its bad music. What happened to respecting other people’s opinions?

excuse me “satriani’s lyricless”, but, as a guitar player, i know for a fact that it takes a hell of a lot more skill and practice to become as good a guitar player as Joe Satriani is. Plus, you can’t even compare the two songs. They are so similar it’s unbelievable that Colplay didn’t just settle with Satch and be done with it.

excuse me “satriani’s lyricless”, but, as a guitar player, i know for a fact that it takes a hell of a lot more skill and practice to become as good a guitar player as Joe Satriani is. Plus, you can’t even compare the two songs. They are so similar it’s unbelievable that Colplay didn’t just settle with Satch and be done with it.

Okay, I’m sick and tired of seeing people smash Satriani. Calling him “that Joe guy” and saying he’s “talentless” is pretty much confirming you of being an assclown. This fantastic musician has been playing for 20+ years and deserves nothing but the upmost respect from everyone of you. Face it people, this isn’t the first time Coldplay has ripped off someone else’s song. Listen to “Talk” and then listen to “The Tourist” by Radiohead, and they are very similar. Not to mention other songs that I’m sure nobody else has brought to your attention. So please, don’t be ignorant, stop being jackasses, and open your eyes.

coldplay sucks pretty much in general. and in ten years they will have been that band that someone hears on their local pussy radio station….satriani will always be known as a guitar god…r.i.p dime

For Crying out loud! There are MILLION other songs out there that use the exact same chord progression! Just because VLV turned out to be a very popular song, everyone’s gotta start suing?? This is beyond pathetic.
BTW, like someone said, if it had been Radiohead or Travis or U2 then I MIGHT have been more okay with this but there is no way in living hell that Martin listens to JS!
Musicians beware! Think twice before releasing any music! Search through the entire songs ever written in the whole world and MAKE SURE you haven’t ripped anybody off! Gimme a break..

Didn’t Coldplay also ripoff some random guy with the same song also

“Talk” is basically a Kraftwerk cover.

leave me alone. i swear it was my idea. its totally different.

So let me get this straight. All the Chris Martin nutswingers insist that he and his band members would never listen to Joe Satriani, yet these same jackasses would probably go on and on about how diverse their musical tastes are just to sound cool. Yet we are to believe one of the bands they worship lsiten exclusively to adult contemporary music and are not influenced by any other genre. Riiiggghhttt. I hope Satch wins his case and this watered down U2/Radiohead starfucking hybrid goes away.

Hey its true, listen to the song called “Frances limon” by enanitos verdes, I think Joe is the one that should be getting sued by copying that riff, and enanitos should get any and all profit from If I could fly!! GO COLDPLAY

They’re both good songs, all of you have to admit that.

hmm this isnt posting == check out eighties hit “Hearts” by former Jefferson Airplane vocalist Marty Balin — similar huh?

ughh….

why don’t we all just sit down and have a nice cup o’ tea for once?! i am sorry, but this is really ridiculous!!! i am so on Coldplay’s side! mainly because viva la vida sounds much much much much MUCH more different than Joes song: If i could fly. I mean, I like Joe Satriani AND Coldplay, but seriously! i don’t see where the melody OR chords are the same in Coldplay’s song vlv.

Pshhhh… whatever.

ughh….

why don’t we all just sit down and have a nice cup o’ tea for once?! i am sorry, but this is really ridiculous!!! i am so on Coldplay’s side! mainly because viva la vida sounds much much much much MUCH more different than Joes song: If i could fly. I mean, I like Joe Satriani AND Coldplay, but seriously! i don’t see where the melody OR chords are the same in Coldplay’s song vlv.

Pshhhh… whatever.

Oh, one more thing, I think that Joe Satriani is just greedy because Coldplay is doing pretty good other than himself and he wants to try and mess with Coldplay.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Joe fails to get something outta Coldplay! I’d just laugh my butt off!!!

Joe Satriani is the man. He wrote the song years earlier. The two are undeniably alike. And therefore he’s entitled to some sort of pay off. Whether Coldplay copied it or not is irrelevant.

Ummmmm…
Jennifer, if you can’t hear a similarity between the two then you are deaf or retarded, or both…Coldplay obviously ripped this song off.
And yeah, Satch’s fans are quite loyal.

Ummmmm…
Jennifer, if you can’t hear a similarity between the two then you are deaf or retarded, or both…Coldplay obviously ripped this song off.
And yeah, Satch’s fans are quite loyal.

Im both a Satriani Fan and a Coldplay fan, I always liked Coldplay since their song Yellow I knew they were brilliant musicians, I myself am a musician I play drums, piano, guitar and bass. I have the DVDs of the G3 and all I really liked If I could Fly since the first time I heard it. But once I heard Viva La Vida I loved it, then one day my friend told me that he saw a video on Youtube about how they sound similar, I heard it and I felt they were quite similar, its been so many years of rock music so there is bound to be so many songs that sound similar, if not exact Im sorry Joe u don’t have a case and as a musician Im disappointed in Satriani since I feel he is doing this for the publicity and fame, which he shouldn’t be doing because like him, Coldplay are brilliant musicians as you can tell, 4 extremely successful records.

Iam a Coldplay and Satriani fan, Im a musician, I play 5 instruments, and I can without no doubt tell u that Satriani is a great guitarist and so is Coldplay is a great band. I heard If I could Fly in 2005 and I liked it. But the first time I heard Viva La Vida I loved it even though its not really my genre (Progressive Rock/Metal) after hearing Viva La Vida several times a friend showed me the YouTube video at first I was shocked but I certainly didnt think it was a copy. I was shocked at how people are losing ideas and how now we can find so many songs that seem similar. At First i thought Satriani wouldn’t take action because as a musician he would know that a few notes sounding similar is not a copy especially since each of his songs are up to 10 minutes long and he wrote songs for up to 30 albums, he shouldnt be surprised that a small part of 1 song sounds SIMILAR its not note for note and no other part of his song is in Viva La Vida, it was a coincidence and I was a bit disappointed since he acted so harshly.

Using a similar 4-chord progression and a similar tempo doesn’t equate to the same song. This would mean that a band would have to listen to every single piece of music ever recorded to avoid this mess. It just isn’t possible. Also, what about the lyrics, percussion and other instruments…basically what the artist uses to complete the song? In all honesty, can any of you Coldplay or Satriani fans say it is the exact same song – - instead it is just a similar riff? Can’t both songs be successful in their own right?

The one thing I find disappointing is that Satriani waits until a day after the nominations to actually file suit?

I am a music major, so I know a few things about chords, etc. Coldplay is not a hack band. You may not like them, but unless you have fully listened to someone’s music, you can’t just say they are stupid and lump them into a “lame” category because some of the songs have been on the radio. Maybe you don’t care for the music, but I think they have more technical knowledge musically than the average band out there. Satriani fans — you don’t need to like Coldplay. Coldplay fans — you don’t need to like Satriani.

I wouldn’t say I’m retarded or deaf but I am just a kid but who really cares what age I am. I just don’t see it, Johnny.

:p

I’m a guitarist and a big fan of both musicians. I’ve studied Satriani for years. They are both great in their own respect. I’m not saying that Coldplay did or didn’t copy The Satch. But hey they are pretty damn close aren’t they? I can understand Joe’s point. That melody is unmistakably Satch. I know what its like to have a catchy melody ripped off of me and yeah it sucks. But even being a big a fan of Satriani, I think he is going a little overboard with “any and all profits.” Speaking outside this I wish people wouldn’t slash Satriani. He’s an accomplished musician and has I suppose that I should sue Coldplay too. I mean, the stars shined for me and they were all yellow BEFORE the song came out, amirite?been for decades. So please know the facts before yoldplay should give all of us some of their profits, for having to put up with Chris Martin’s mopbum title of “Viva La Vida” sounds too similar to “Living La Vida Loca” and Ricky Martin thinks Colplay stole the album title from his grey, whinu say he’s a no name guitarist. As for Coldplay these guys are great too. Just because certain music isn’t your taste doesn’t mean its bad music. What happened to respecting other people’s opinions?

Anyone that is choosing to bash on Joe Satriani really ought to think about what they say before they say anything. I have been a big fan of both bands for almost a decade, but Joe Satriani is the one that inspired me to become a great guitar player. That being said, I know Joe inside and out. I have had an opportunity to meet Joe 4 times in person during this time, each time a free concert was put on by joe and then hours of free autograph sessions. I do not know any coldplay fans, or any other major record label musicians that are as giving to the fans as Joe Satriani. That guy does more free stuff for his fans all the time. With that said, those of you that think Joe is GREEDY, I strongly encourage you to reconsider your position. HE is the most humble, decent, and sincere musician I have ever met. His decisions come from the heart, they are not motivated by greed.

P.S. That was really for Jennifer.

I understand Andrew.

And sorry.

And sorry. I wasn’t trying to be a jerk to anyones opinion, but yeah…

Wow, music has meaning and will always have meaning. This song will die in years to and someone will use it as an influence. I’m 22 and i know i might not know as much as a lot of people on the music subject, but i grew up musically and i think everyone has their own taste and i do not think their should be a lawsuit.

I love Joe and I love Coldplay. I honestly love everything about music. Just enjoy music while we have it and while we are alive, please.

I really have to agree with Frankie there

I could make a movie with a humpback whale befriending a kid and call it, “Free Billy” think I’ll get sued?
Kelly J, what you may not get is that 4 chord progression (with identical tempo, dynamics, and pitch) is what the drums and other instruments were playing off of. The fact they were there doesn’t make it any less of Satriani’s song as it doesn’t make it any more of Coldplay’s. Frankly, someone who mentored Kirk Hammet that brings up this kind of accusation probably has a credible case. I’m sure Coldplay has listened to great guitarists of the like of Satriani, Petrucci and such. That being said, I can’t see how they have a hope of winning this case because when you do a detailed breakdown it’s a rip. He’s not suing Creaky because they are not playing the same progressions, he is just singing to the tune. Unbelievable, you’re hilarious.

If a court can rule that George Harrison’s “My Sweet Lord” ripped of the Chiffon’s “He’s So Fine,” then Satriani has a good case. Actually, a GREAT case…

If a court can rule that George Harrison’s “My Sweet Lord” ripped of the Chiffon’s “He’s So Fine,” then Satriani has a good case. Actually, a GREAT case…

it’s not that satriani doesn’t have talent…it’s that he doesn’t have taste. the guy is a f%$@ing cheeseball….in fact i never met a fan of his who wasn’t as well. coldplay has as much talent from a composing standpoint if not more… and way, way, more style from a musical perspective . no one is denying satriani is an accomplished guitarist technically-wise, but who gives a pis*…he’s got no class. and i’m not talking about his lame as* lawsuit. guy’s probably got a 3″ co*k too. colplay should throw this little bitc* about 10million in chump change just to shut him up….not because they copied, but just because they can. 30 f’ing albums and the guy still needs to suck off people who can actually sell albums. i almost feel sorry for him. no, no i don’t. grow some hair you bald pus*y.

Doesn’t it seem like a stretch to anybody that coldplay would be listening to Satriani in their free time? No disrespect intended Joe, but even you have to admit that you’re not exactly mainstream. I have an easier time imagining coldplay watching WWF than cadging melodies off a 2004 satriani release. Seriously?

Coldplay strike me as a different species of nerd altogether. They’re the tweed wearing, geography loving nerds. Not the shaven headed, leather wearing computer guitar geek nerds?

And frankly, as melody writers they’ve kind of proven their status. It’s not like this is their one hit wonder stolen from the golden chalice of satch music of 2004. Again, no disrespect, but it’s not like they need a whole lot of help writing hit tunes. And if they did, pretty much THE WHOLE WORLD is thinking they wouldn’t be taking it from a fallen guitar hero of the 1990’s. Can I get a what what?

Well done for getting some good publicity Joe. And thanks for the Surfing with the Alien album – it really did change my life. But there are 11 notes in the chromatic scale. And the law of averages dictates that occasionally even monkeys like Coldplay will strike a chord you’ve hit before….Let this go and walk away with your leather jacket still on your back.

I completely agree that Radiohead or U2 should sue Coldplay. After hearing their song “In My Place” for the first time, I thought the drum intro sounded quite similar to “Bullet the Blue Sky” by U2. Also, “High Speed” on their Parachutes album sounds SO much like Radiohead’s “Subterranean Homesick Alien.” I just think Coldplay should be exposed for their unoriginality, and if they win ANY Grammy over Radiohead…

Unbelievable-
” I can’t believe this. Coldplay is one of the most original bands ever. First U2 rips off their songs, then Radiohead steals their sound, and now Joe Satriani has the audacity to write the same song 4 years earlier. ”

hahaha

Note:
you have to be stoned, hammered, and semi-mentally retarded to think that U2 or RADIOHEAD would EVER copy Coldplay.

100% agree with Sheida. this rip-off is, to me, really obvious !

“Satriani has the audacity to write the same song 4 years earlier. ”

nothing more to say !

Boo hoo, poor millionaires. My heart bleeds for all of them.

The melody was actually surprisingly similar. But i think it was just a coincidence. Did i mention last month i copyrighted all twelve notes in the musical scale. Pay up you bums.

Cal: “Wanna know how I know you’re gay? Because you like Coldplay.”

anyone who ever said satch sucks or anything of that sort please get a life . . . this man has given up his life for something he beleves in . . .thats the idea of going solo . . . he is a magician who taught likes of vai . . anymore introduction needed ?

Hey, has anybody ever heard, “My Love” by Petula Clark. It’s different, yet somehow, in the smallest way, the same.

I don’t know how anybody who knows anything about music could defend Coldplay. It’s also just a joke to hear people say that Joe Satriani is a “c-grade musician”. Coldplay can’t write, sing or play music and are simply another crap pop band who think they are somehow musically gifted. I hope Joe takes Coldplay for everthing they have.

Look…you Coldplay fans really need to stop bashing Satch based on ignorance. The fact is that if you have not heard of Joe Satiani and consider yourself a fan of “good” music, well you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

The entire span of his entire discography is more musically diverse than anything the likes of Coldplay could ever hope to accomplish.

He is at the top tier of extremely gifted and technical musicians, even so far as to have had himself named as the “Worlds Greatest Guitarist” in the October 2007 edition of Guitar World, along side Steve Vai, long time friend and ex-student.

When was the last time, I ask, did you see Coldplay in an actual serious musician’s magazine or editorial and not some innane pop-culture toilet-rag that only the star-obsessed young and musically ignorant fawn over?

Musicians will be studing the methods and styles of Satch for decades to come; however, nobody pays any mind to run-of-the-mill pop bands after their time has passed.

Oh yea, for you half-wits
who bash his instrumental playing, get a life! Just about everyone can sing! Its not that hard: any four year old can write down some shoddy lyrics and sing them in a melodic manner, so why should those who do it for a living be given any substantial credit.

Try learning how to to play instrumental lead guitar and creating a deep and melodic passage that transcends the spoken word and allows us to feel emotionally connected to the song! That takes decades of hard, determined practice of scales, chords, technique, and a large amount of music theory.

Satch knows more music theory than any of the members of Coldplay or their associates could ever hope to learn.

Oh yea, he was also listed as one of the fifty fastest guitarists in a recent Guitar World, which included a who’s who of virtuoso axe-slingers including Steve Vai, Jason Becker, Al DiMeola, Zakk Wylde, Paul Gilbert, John Petrucci, and Herman Li to name a few. I bet most of you hardcore Coldplay fans don’t even know who those people are. How sad, for their likes have changed the way music is made with the guitar forever.

Being a musician is not about popularity, its about skill. Big deal if you sell fifty-billion copies of your sub-par albums, mainstream hip-hop stars do it
all the time and they have NO skill. The average person does what their told by magazines, movies, news media, and advertisements; why? Because they are stupid and lack the free will or individuality necessary to make their own decisions and actually expand their musical repetoir. Case in point: how many mainstream hip-hop fans have listened to or enjoy modern jazz or blues? Not many I believe. This is why being a skilled musician of high integrity gets a better standing in intellectual circles than those who just care about making money and looking cool than actually putting in effort and hard
work.

Oh and just for kicks: the guitarist for Coldplay (whoever he is?) has an endorsement with First Act guitars! You know who plays those? Five year old kids and people who can’t play worth shit!

Joe Satriani has had his own line of Ibanez guitars for almost twenty years! Ibanez is at the forefront of guitar building quality, innovation, and technology, with Satch’s guitars starting from over $700 to $6,000 and are available at any major musical instrument retailer!

Coldplay’s First Act endorsement is only found in major general retail department stores, I.E. Target, WalMart, etc., and it costs under $100 and was probably made in China. They are not even good enough to be carried by REAL guitar stores. Kind of also
mirrors the quality of their music too.

Joe Satriani is my favorite musician of all time, and has been since I was a child even though nowadays I listen to bands
like Immortal, Lamb of God, Amon Amarth, and Arch Enemy/Carcass- all of which are extremely technical and would destroy
Coldplay in a wave of shere talent.

I believe that all you Coldplay fans who attack Satriani out of blindness are also attacking those who have followed in his footsteps, and the footsteps of his kind. That generally means the entirety of progressive/instrumental rock/metal, the entire genre of metal, and any and every great guitarist who has EVER lived.

Look at that, you guys have succeeded in pissing off Hendrix’s spirit! When Jimi died Satch picked up that torch of six string virtuosity and carries it till this day. You would know that if you read his biography.

I also think that when you degrade Satriani, you degrade the entire institution of music, and all those hard-working musicians who have something that you and your little pop band lack: INTEGRITY.

So, look for a song on Satch’s self titled album (thats Joe Satriani for you clueless folks) called S.M.F. Thats right, SOME MOTHER FUCKER! That is what all of you who have choosen to malign one of the greatest icons of rock/metal history, are.

For those of you Coldplay fans who did not participate in such heinous acts, I thank you for your
maturity, something which a few of your compatriots lack. LONG LIVE SHRED!

Who the hell who said U2 and Radiohead should suit Colplay is a douche. People get inspired or get ideas from other music, okay??
It is called inspiration.
And do you think it took 3 years for Coldplay to rip off Satriani? (He is one of the guitar gods, no offense)
Douche bags.

But didn’t Satriani himself steal the riff from Enanitos Verdes? Just sayin’…

It amazes me that you say that selling “fifty-billion” records makes you “talentless.” And it’s equally ridiculous that you claim that “pop” or “mainstream” music has no real feeling or emotion from its writers… Who are you to make such claims? It’s offensive to me that you say people who listen to bands like Coldplay just “do what they’re told by magazines, ect…” Has it ever crossed your mind that fifty-billion people actually LIKE Coldplay? Probably not. Because people like you seem to believe that popularity makes you somehow less talented or less of a musician. What kind of logic is that? Sure, the guitarists you refer to are great. I completely agree. That’s why they’ve made names for themselves. But don’t insult people for having a different taste in music than you do. That in itself is ignorant. Enjoy your music, and the rest of us will enjoy ours. Nobody is better than anyone else anyhow; it’s all just opinion.

Popularity=no talent? — Sounds like an angry excuse as to why not as many people enjoy what you listen to over “Coldplay.”

… And if you think that people can just snap their fingers and become world famous, you’re completely mad. You have no idea how much work ANY “mainstream” musician puts into making a name for themself. Come on, man. You make no sense. Every musician works hard, and unless you can prove otherwise, stop downgrading musicians that have done so, AND made it big. It just makes you seem even less intelligent.

Black Metal Messiah,

where the heck do you get brain washed at. Not only is your comparison of Satriani to Jimi Hendrix the biggest stretch of your little metal rotted mind, because Jimi was an innovator, Satriani know his music trade and can play guitar but nothing short of anyother skilled musician can do.

Ohh, yeah about rap people not listing to blues to know where music comes from, you do know that metal music can be related to classical music more so than the blues.

Second, coldplay has no First Act guitar. And saying Ibanez is on the for front of guitars made me laugh. Ibanez has the tubescreamer pedal and thats about it.
As far as guitars go, Jeff Buckland plays fender 72 telecasters
and by the way, the only thing that seperates cheap guitars with more expensive ones are the pickup, which you can always change.
But its cool, you probably think Jackson and Dimebag Darrell guitars are amazing.

ohh yeah and everyone can sing…BS…but then I look at the bands you listen too….not exactly what i call singing.

David,
You’re totally off your nut dude. “the only thing that separates a cheap guitar from a more expensive one is the pickups”?!?!?! that is the most rediculous statement I’ve heard in a long time. If you’ve convinced yourself of that you either a)have been playing for only 6 months or so, or b)you can’t afford a decent guitar. Either way you couldn’t be more wrong. I guess I thought stupid things when I was 12 too tho.

David, You’re a serious kook, and your words reveal a pathetically ignorant knowlege of music; guitars in particular. You’re a prime example of people who should shut their yap instead of trying to discuss a subject matter they know very little of, beyond their own tastes. Loser!

Ok, I do admit i should have not put the preposition of the only thing that separates expensive guitars from cheaper guitar is pickups. And to prove that I am not a complete dumb s#!t. Let me clarify myself more. If you take to identical body styles same wood and neck width. A company can make a cheaper model or knock off model with cheaper pickups. I had a squire, and replaced the pickups in it, sure it maynot be the best quality body but the picks are just as good.
As far as epiphone, their les paul models do not have a arch like the the gibson, so you sacrifice some tone.
So what I am say is, hey if you want to shell out 1000’s of dollars for a guitar go ahead.
Now, stone me now for not proof reading my post.
But agree with me this that Ibanez is not at the forefront of the guitar business. Maybe accessories, like the TS, heck I use their lu20 tuner. But when compared to fender, gibson, PRS, Rickenbacker, G&L, Martin, Taylor, their guitar may make top 10

If Coldplay are such second rate musicians who lack the technical ability and chops to even compare to Satch, then riddle me this:

How could they possibly rip off a song of his?

If they lack the ability to play with the depth and complexity that Satch can, how can you even suggest that Viva la Vida resembles If I Could fly in any way?

You can’t have it both ways.

If Coldplay can’t compare to Satch, then how can you possibly compare them to Satch?

Black Metal Messiah had this to say:

“Oh and just for kicks: the guitarist for Coldplay (whoever he is?) has an endorsement with First Act guitars! You know who plays those? Five year old kids and people who can’t play worth shit!

Joe Satriani has had his own line of Ibanez guitars for almost twenty years! Ibanez is at the forefront of guitar building quality, innovation, and technology, with Satch’s guitars starting from over $700 to $6,000 and are available at any major musical instrument retailer!

Coldplay’s First Act endorsement is only found in major general retail department stores, I.E. Target, WalMart, etc., and it costs under $100 and was probably made in China. They are not even good enough to be carried by REAL guitar stores.”

You’re right. Kids and inexperienced people who want to learn to play guitar shouldn’t buy a p.o.s. like a First Act guitar. Why spend less than $100 when you don’t even know if it’s something you’ll stick with.

No, if you want to be good, you should buy one of Satriani’s guitars starting at $700. Remember, the more expensive the instrument, the better you’ll sound playing it, so you might even want to start out with the $6K version to be safe.

Besides, when you finally learn to play, you wouldn’t want to be caught using an inexpensive instrument. And you CERTAINLY wouldn’t want to get an endorsement for a product that encourages people to learn guitar! Someone as ELITE as yourself needs an instrument that bears the name of someone that is elite in your field.

Case in point: Didn’t you ever notice how much better the kids with Air Jordans were at basketball?

Jordan was like the Satch of basketball, and you didn’t see Jordan endorsing affordable shoes that would encourage kids to take up the sport. Why bother? Only five year olds and people who can’t play worth shit wear cheap shoes!

Not to mention, that crappy guitarist from Coldplay doesn’t have his OWN line of guitars, like Satch. Satch has had his line of guitars for 20 years! That Coldplay guy is slacking! He’s 31, so if he’d have gotten his own line of guitars at age 11, he’d be caught up with Satch. What a loser.

Satch has had his line of guitars since he was 32 years old! That means that the crappy Coldplay guy is clearly worse than Joe by merit of his not obtaining a PERSONAL LINE OF GUITARS BEFORE THE AGE THAT JOE HIMSELF DID! Again, total loser.

Damn it man, we can all learn a lot from Black Metal Messiah!

*Bows in Black Metal Messiah’s general direction before bowing in the direction that he thinks Joe Satriani is in, and then blows a raspberry in the direction that he thinks the crappy Coldplay guitarist is in*

Im sorry to say..but if anyone actually digs and likes what Coldplay produces, then yall obviously have very poor musical taste and should be struck deaf for being for having such terrible musical taste, Coldplay are just a couple gay brits who A) Produce music that takes no talent or thought to come up with B) Rip off accomplished artists to cover for their lack of musical talent and C) Are part of the now day and mainstream music trend, which consists of some of the worst bands that have ever been assembled.

The only difference in the two parts that I can hear is that Satriani’s version sounds a lot better than whoever the queer is who plays guitar for CP, In its composition and musical structure there is no difference and Satriani easily has a case, asking for all profits is the least he should be doing.

Think about it? When a thief gets caught, the police recover what was stolen, give it back to the original owner, and give the thief some jail time…So ironically enough, CP is lucky they’re not getting locked up for their crime.

After reading all these other posts, Its easy to point out who knows their music and who doesn’t, its a very basic formula but heres how it works.

Satriani bashers, CP supporters= Obviously know nothing and are fuckin ignorant

Satriani supporters, CP bashers= Obviously know their music.

EDIT: Yea I made a mistake about the guitars…it’s maroon 5 not Coldplay. Look, you want to listen to them, fine. Just dont bash Satch for what he can do or what he has done for the music community. True I am very angry at actual people with talent being pushed to the sidelines by people who are popular. If I offended, I apologize. Satriani has been my biggest influence in my own playing, so disrespecting him is like disrespecting me; I take it very personally. Just do me a favor: go read some bios on satch, not just one but say a dozen. Get to know the guy, get to know what he has done. He IS an innovator, just like Jimi. Without Hendrix’s untimely death, Satch would probably be playing football. He is one of the greatest musicans of our time, and if you dont know him, get to know him. You will be happy you did.

EDIT: Yea I made a mistake about the guitars…it’s maroon 5 not Coldplay. Look, you want to listen to them, fine. Just dont bash Satch for what he can do or what he has done for the music community. True I am very angry at actual people with talent being pushed to the sidelines by people who are popular. If I offended, I apologize. Satriani has been my biggest influence in my own playing, so disrespecting him is like disrespecting me; I take it very personally. Just do me a favor: go read some bios on satch, not just one but say a dozen. Get to know the guy, get to know what he has done. He IS an innovator, just like Jimi. Without Hendrix’s untimely death, Satch would probably be playing football. He is one of the greatest musicans of our time, and if you dont know him, get to know him. You will be happy you did.

BTW: I play Ibanez S Prestiges with Mesa amps. Not a big fan of the JS series since he endorsed the 540R Radius. I also hate Jackson and and the “Dimebag” shaped guitars.

I take coldplays side. Satriani is just being a capitalist bastard and trying to mess with a band that has way more success than he does.

Don’t get me wrong, Satriani can play guitar real well. But when will people like him understand it takes more than good guitar playing to make a good band? I see him as a self-centered arrogant prick, who gets all the spotlight on the stage, so he must get it all in real life as well.

How many grammy nominations has Satriani got? 15. How many has he won? 0. haha…someone throw him one so he will quit being a bitch.

What a manipulative person, I bet his real intentions for the lawsuit was profiting off coldplay’s success because he had not achieved the same status and finanical well-beings. His motives are completely financial, “emotional damages”? Give me a break, that is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard, and I can’t believe he plays the humble victim who is powerless against Goliath (Coldplay). Actual LOL!

Listen, how would you feel if you worked really hard on something and then all the sudden you realize your work won a Grammy and you get no credit for it. The melody from the chorus of “If I Could Fly” by Satriani is what has been mimicked. It doesn’t matter if it was intentional or not. By the way, Coldplay’s entire vocals seem to revolve around the melody
Satch wrote. The tempo is the same, and the chord progression is nearly identical. Coincidence? Who knows but nevertheless I stand by Satch on this one.

Satch will win this one. Its been proven through musical theory that the chorus is the same. The question is will the courts agree with the music theory. For those criticizing Satriani for wanting to profit off of ColdPlagiarism what do you expect??? Should ColdPlagiarism get a slap on the wrist for blatantly copying Satriani? What kind of precedent does this set and what is to stop ColdPlagiarism from doing it again?

Dude knowing satriana he inspired me to play guitar and learn music theory. Coldplays just some wannabes screw them they owe all that money to Satch.

Coldplay are a cheap ripoff band of Travis…. they were so much better, coldplay are crap… Satriani all the way

Hey, i’ve read a bunch of the comments up here and people really get away the point. The point isn’t who’s cool or not, or whether their styles are comparable. i don’t know if Coldplay listens to Satriani. It’s just a question of how similar the melody and chord changes are. The bit of the Satch tune that sounds similar has a 2,5,1,6 chord sequence and the Coldplay tune is 4,5,1,6. The 2 chord and 4 chord are virtually identical (look it up). The melody is almost exactly the same. Then again it’s a pretty simple 6 note melody, the second part being the same as the first part down a tone. Functionally it’s the same song. But is it so complex that two bands COULDN’T have dreamed it up?

this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. coldplay rules, and anyone who doesn’t respect other peoples’ musical taste is just shallow and dumb. and honestly, even if coldplay DID copy that song, if i were joe satriani, i’d thank the lord for having been able to write a song that caught coldplay’s attention enough to “copy” it..
common, it’s all so sad. coldplay has depth and meaning and feeling.. as for mr. satriani, common. this is not how musicians should try to get attention..

*coldplay is LOVE*

wow, this isnt about who’s band is cooler or better or who is more famous or who has a golden toilet.

Plagiarism is plagiarism, no matter how you look at it.

Grow up people.

Just because 50 million people listen and love coldplay does not mean that coldplay has talent.
Just because there is rape and murder in a world of a few billion people does not mean that rape is fine now does it?Popularity has got nothing to do with talent.
A person may be popular.But that person is not talent.Because talent is not equal to popular.
Musically,chords,tem po yada yada yada Coldplay sounds exactly the same as Satch’s “if i could fly”.
Intention or not, the fact remains blatantly in the grammy-award bullshit that both songs sound exactly the same.EXACTLY BECAUSE OF CHORD PROGRESSION.TEMPO AND YADA YADA YADA.
Not to mention Satch has been around with his song for much longer.
A whiny song like coldplay’s has managed to obtain a grammy when it the same song produced long ago by satch.
Popularity worked here.
Being eccentric with lame tatoo on hands-chris martin+marriage to a celeb=famous band.

Look.All the popularity amassed by coldplay is a cumulative summation of marketing done to enhance the band’s status.

It’s not talent to sell albums of music to so many people.They were successful at selling the album yes.But relatively speaking, it is in no way deserving

Coldplay will suffer the same fate as Boys to Men and New Edition. Most bands from the last decade or so will. A very dissapointing time in music history. Satriani never got aboard that commercial train, refusing to compromise his art and make hamburger for the masses. For those who say Satriani’s crying foul because hes sinking in his career… be ware of the Chickenfoot (google it) that will come crashing down upon you in June.

cat steven’s could sue satch for his song since in 1973 he wrote heaven, there and the list goes on and on like Martin balin in 1980 Satch is a copy cat too so no reason to give him anymore credit than anyone else. and shall we throw eric clapton in the mix too? Realize originality stopped in the 80’s and hasn’t been back since.

Wait, wait, wait… I didn’t know that plagiarism could be classified as copying a CHORD PROGRESSION AND TEMPO. No one can copyright a chord progression or a tempo… they’re what make up ANY song. If copyrights covered chord progressions, every songwriter could sue every other songwriter so simply tweaking a key. And isn’t the tempo in question one of the most standard tempos out there?

I don’t like Coldplay, they’re not my style. I don’t like Joe Satriani. This mess just flat out doesn’t make sense and I don’t get how these two downright different songs could ever possibly be considered so similar to the point of copyright infringement. A chord progression and a tempo cannot be copyrighted.

To all you Satch fans listen to Cat Stevens’ Foreigner Suite from 1973. Who should sue who?

It isn’t about the chord progression. Listen to the melody. When I first heard about Joe’s lawsuit I thought, “Joe, you’d better be right or your career is over.” Then I listened to the two songs. How could Joe not stand up for himself?

Great guitarist, clueless as a musician. Its been done in plenty of songs over the years. Not a good idea to replace common sense with an ego, but I suppose fame will do that to people.

I’d say First Act guitars are on par with Ibanez.

I’d say First Act guitars are on par with Ibanez.

I’d say First Act guitars are on par with Ibanez.

For the people saying 50 billion people listen to Coldplay, I’m certain that there aren’t actually that many people on the planet =)

why the heck Coldplay fans keep on telling that Joe Satriani copied Cat stevens and he wasnt sued? true, MAYBE Joe did copy it from Cat Stevens and he wasnt sued because he copied it LEGALLY.

Joe Satriani is talentless?????? Who the F**k are you morons????? Joe Satriani is arguably the Best guitarist in the world! He has taught the likes of Steve Vai, Kirk Hammet etc etc. Joe’s music has soul, style, feeling, technique and heart. Coldplay sound like a cat pi***ng on a shovel!!! Go Joe man you are the best. From all of the UK!

Coldplay is a band for sorority girls and art house geeks.

As for the tard that thinks Satch is lame because he doesn’t sing is an ignorant little asswipe.

He’s an amazing instrumental guitarist. Who needs lyrics when you have an amazing sound?