Same ol’ Axl Rose ‘me, me, me’ bulls**t. Nothing changes, does it?

Haha, what a joke. I think Axl’s pissed that Chinese Democracy is only gonna sell 300,000 copies it’s first week according to insiders. Epic failure. Where’s Slash?

Go get em Axl!!! You did your part, now it’s time for Dr Pepper to do theirs.

Hmmm. Pick your battles, no? I like the self-edifying “band’s legendary reputation.” Being that it’s just Axl from the original band, that can only mean “epic tardiness.”

I dunno…300K in the first week in this economy, with the whole thing free on Myspace, ain’t too bad. A bit low, but pretty respectable. No shame in that.

This was promoted as the most “Anticipated Album of All Time”, took 15 years, cost 15 million and is out the biggest sales week of the year. No offense, but that’s not that good.

This album will have tons more staying power than Kanye’s, Kid Rock’s and AC/DC’s put together

1st week sales will exceed 500K. Count on it.

Sometimes Canadians like myself forget we’re not really American. I want a Dr. Pepper too! Every time I hear Chinese Democracy I crave Dr. Pepper. EVRERYTIME! What’s really frustrating is that when I drink Dr. Pepper I crave to hear Chinese Democracy. It’s a lose/lose for me and my other fellow countrymen.

Should strike now, Dr. Pepper is at it’s weakest.

When Dr. Pepper made the “FREE SODA” offer, it was a total JOKE! Like most people, they NEVER figured the album would ACTUALLY be released in 2008.

So it backfired on them, and now they look stupid, but I don’t think Dr. Pepper has any real legal obligation to give free sodas away.

don’t drink soda ever!!!!

Chinese Democracy rules and suing people totally kicks ass.

I want another free Diet Dr Pepper!

To Wow: Where’s Slash? He’s stuck musically in 1987 and presently writing horrible half-assed generic shlock under the moniker “Velvet Revolver”. Thanks for asking

I can just immagine it, those ceo guys at dr pepper going like: YES this is gonna boost our sales and shit, and then after thinking.. damn we fucked with the wrong guy

personally, i think that the fact Dr. Pepper came even that close to making good on their promise is impressive. people did get some free soda, and that’s better than what i thought would happen – i.e. CD would come out and Dr. Pepper would try to cover their asses. besides, is legal action really the answer? like it was said earlier, i think Axl’s just bitter and wants more money.

Did you guys here? The Beatles are putting out a new album next month.
Yea, it’s just Paul McCartney and some other guys…oh wait. It’s Paul McCartney’s solo cd.

They should sue themselves for making bad music and putting it out to the sucker masses. Are those sales number “masses”?

Axl and his lawyer have the best point of all. Dr. Pepper thought he would jump on the “let’s make fun of Axl and the length of time it takes for him to release the album” bandwagon, and to gain themselves some free publicity and soda sales while they are at it. Of course now, Chinese Democracy is here (and it kicks ass too) and Dr. Pepper is caught with his pants down and pissing in the wind. Suing this “Dr.” for malpractice is totally justified, haha!!! WOCKA WOCKA WOCKA!!!!

Well, all I know is that this Dr. Pepper fiasco is an emotional trauma from which I shall never recover and my lawyer is going to see to it that I get compensated in great big wheelbarrows full of long green.

If what I’m reading is true, then Dr. Pepper should be held accountable. I just hope that Axl and his lawyers don’t see a dime from it.
If there is a settlement it should involve the American people. Just give everyone another chance to get a Dr Pepper.
These kind of law suits just waste time and money. I’m sure there are other things that deserve the attention.

i have never seen anything more American that what i have just read above. Hit em where it hurts Axl.

He should have just released it as a solo album.
There is no need to tarnish the name Guns & Roses anymore than it already is.

I dont care if u love Guns N Roses or hate them. I just say that every1 should never buy another can of Dr. Pepper again for being suck dicks. U know i will never buy a can. join me.

I say I say all I want is a nice cold 2 liter of Dr. Pepper and a fifth of Jack Daniels. That should do me jest fahn.

I tried to get my coupon but couldn’t access their website.

lol maybe guns n roses are trying to buy some publicity for themselves with this ridic lawsuit. I mean their FAILure of an album is only on track to sell 300k in a week… and it’s not even debuting at number 1… Best Buy got screwed ’cause now they’re stuck with 3 million Chinese Democracy albums that no one wants…

Chinese Democracy is everything a GnR fan could want except Slash and Duff. You can close your eyes and pretend it’s the same old line-up or you can wake up to a new reality.

Weiland’s new album is not a repeat of 12-bar blues. This one is actually good!

I demand an apology from Axl. After waiting 17+ years, he dropped a turd on us. I didn’t care about Slash being gone (he was just a stylistic flourish on the songrwriting, anyway). I thought Axl could pull it off. I knew it would be different. I just didn’t know that it would have a nu metal sound that would have sounded bad even in 1999. It’s like water-downed Powerman 5000. And he forgot to write songs with a point. It’s an overproduced meandering mess. Between new GNR and velvet Revolver, it’s apparent that neither Axl nor Slash can write a song on their own that’s worth a damn. Izzy Stradline was the real talwnt in GNR. That’s why they released nothing but covers after he left the group.

Well, lets see, he was out making trash with Velvet Revolver for several years and here’s supposed to put out a solo albumn that probably won’t sell 300K in total. That’s where he is. Anyone bought an Izzy albumn lately. Or Duff! Rose is the only member of GnR who has any capacity to succeed w/out the remaining members.

hey billkido… just because the album only going to sell 300-500k albums in one week (which is going to be one of the top two) doesn’t mean it’s not going to sell the 3 million best guy bought. Did you think they were going to sell all of it in one week?…lol I gauruntee they sell all the albums over time.

Dr. Pepper is way better than Chinese Democracy. Insult to Americans everywhere?? The fact that Axl thinks we care about a new GnR effort at this point is an insult to the intelligence of Americans everywhere.

I love how you Axl haters turn anything into hatred for Axl..lol Really, all this is is GNR looking out for their fans..right??

And the comparison between West and GN’R’s record sales is pointless. Hip hop and rap continuely put out hits that last in the clubs for 2-3 months and then they’re gone, but good Rock music lasts much longer. I wouldn’t be surprised if West’s cd sells more in the first week or month for that matter, but I would bet that Chinese Democracy sells more by the end of the year, and years to come

Hey DR… no they won’t. And it’s not 300-500k it’s going to be less than 350k… trust. And you can’t tell me that number is not disappointing considering that A) it’s Guns N’ Roses first album in 15 years, B) The album has had massive free publicity over the years and C) When a large retailer like Best Buy buys more than 3 MILLION ALBUMS, yeah.. I imagine they are expecting more than 300k in a week. They’ll probably reach 1.5 million with luck. But they’re screwed, it’s not like radio will play any of their singles and none of their new songs have reached the top of iTunes.
By comparison look at how well AC/DC did with their first new album in 8 years, close to 800k in a week.

Axl speaks from his Balls and everyone else can lick them. Good on yeah Axl…He just wants everyone to have a can of Dr.Pepper and chill the fuck out.

I agree completely with Dee. Comparing this album to Kanye West is pointless. Is Kanye going to be doing this in his 40’s? Not likely. Rap has a shelf life, I learned that when I was younger. Rock has much more of a staying power and honestly, record sales do not matter.

Axl Rose IS Guns N’ Roses. Lets face it, when you think of your favorite bands of all time, the person you mostly associate with is the singer. Queen – Freddie Mercury, Rolling Stones – Mick Jagger, Aerosmith – Steven Tyler. Axl Rose was and is still the face of Guns N’ Roses, and he always will be. He wrote the songs, made the melodies and while he did have help, he wouldn’t compromise until he had it correct, and it is. In today’s society, integrity is something we lack. Everyone, including Dr. Pepper, can make fun of the fact that it took him a long time to create it. I ask a big colossal SO WHAT?? Art, in EVERY form, takes time.

Paul McCartney is stuck in the Beatles days. What songs do fans go the craziest for at any artist’s concerts??? The old stuff. Because music reminds us of an emotion or time in our lives when things were simpler.

For me, the album is perfect. I don’t really care about what anyone else thinks, because everyone hears something different. If you want to bash Axl and say he’s ruining the GNR name, go right ahead. You’re morons and your stating a very juvenile argument. If you don’t like the music, move on, we don’t want to hear from you talking trash about something that you clearly have no mature understanding of.

And to everyone who says that it’s not Guns N’ Roses… I’m sorry that you’re stuck driving a minivan with rugrats in the back screaming at the top of their lungs to MileyCyrusJonasBrothers crap while sporting a cheap five dollar hair cut and a pot belly, listening to soft rock melodies on the easy listening local radio station, all the while dreaming of the days when you were king of the high school prom and everyone liked you….it’s over, life moves on and so should you. Axl clearly has, and he has made a great album. The point is that you should clearly appreciate what he has brought out, even if it doesn’t sound the same as you remember. Change is good, routine is bad. You might just find something new that you like.

Do you really want to eat the same thing for dinner every night? Do you want to watch the same movies over and over again? Do you want to listen to the same music over and over again? Yes you’ll know every lyric and note by heart, but you’ll be blind to every new thing in life. I hope you’ll be happy this way.

I’m still trying to figure out Rolling Stone’s very, very overly-generous 4-star rating for “Chinese Geography.” The record sound like an incohesive amalgum of 14 years of sonic experiments all clumsily thrown together.

WOW, don’t you think it a little early for axl to be so bitchy , I mean it just shows that a lot of people wanted the ablum and maybe crashed the site trying to get a free can of dr. Pepper, I would think dr pepper will make admends on this and once it does things should be peachy, if sale are low becuase dr pepper cant handle the overflow , no fault to them. just means album is selling well, if it doesnt sell well , that to the some what poor reviews i have read and nobody want a album from a once great band, now a bunch of has beens, or he would have signed a deal with best buy, he would have released his album to all stores. this is just some hype to try to help sell this album.

Chinese Democracy is crap. That ruined the release. They should apologize to Dr. Pepper for making such a bad release that they had to be tied to.

Axl, stop your ‘ruined teenage love’ songs and just wither up in your mansion already. You are too old for that, and I am feeling ripped off for thinking you would have evolved past that-and haven’t. You should be ashamed.

Yes! Axl is back for sure! I for one would be disappointed if the lead singer of Guns N’ Roses WASN’T an asshole. You’re all crazy. Chinese Democracy might have never been able to live up to the hype the same way everyone bitched about the final episode of Seinfeld. Bitch, bitch, bitch… of course, if you had seen the first episode you would have got the joke.

But isn’t that always the problem. Chinese Democracy happens to be a fantastically great album nonetheless and I am ecstatic to have the old Axl back…

If only to piss off all the Andy Sechers, Mick Walls, and Bob Guccione Jr.’s of the world who bitch, bitch, bitch… go put on that Killers record. We don’t need you.

just shut up and sing

Axl is a complete loser coward. Everything is always somebody else’s fault. Lukewarm sales? BLAME DOCTOR PEPPER! People who are constantly suing other people are the worst kind of scum. And, oh yeah, in my opinion, the album has SOME good tunes on it, but they are buried under some of the most ridiculous production ever conceived in the history of music. The most expensive album of all time, and it’s gonna lose a LOT of money unless sales really pic up. Dr. Pepper’s fault? No, Axl, look in the mirror and face facts like a man for once in your life.

Chinese Democracy, album of the year, say no more.

at least they didn’t say they’d give everyone in China a free soda

at least they didn’t say they’d give everyone in China a free soda

calling this alleged band GnR is a JOKE! saying Axle is concearned for his fans is a bigger JOKE! he has been spitting in their face every since his dumb ass has gotten famous, same old Axl, same old story….PATHETIC

rock stars have to realize that suing someone takes away all their cred. at least for me. i like to at least think sometimes they are actually doing it for the music.

Seriously, quit your whining and don’t end up like Metallica.

Wow. It seems kind of well schemeish that the day they promised a free Dr. Pepper coupon, the site crashed. Now come on. But i agree, Shut up and sing.

I’ll take a cold Dr. Pepper over the new Guns N’ Snoozes CD any day.

Wow SaveOne. Tell us how you really feel! So I haven’t heard much of the new album… it seems like people are pretty divided on this one. I’ll probably just get it and decide for myself. I’m not expecting it to be old school Guns, but I’m hoping it’s not complete crap either.

What a f*cking bitch. Can this guy just shut-up and perform? Oddly enough, he’s no longer good at that. Its a mediocre album at best. The best thing about it is the damn title. Don’t like this concept? Deal with it.

Can’t say I care too much about the whole Dr. Pepper thing. I’ll take a Mountain Dew over DP any day!

Saveone,
Has anyone of those singers you mention fired everyone in the band and still called the band by the same name?
Atleast thome york made a solo album and called it ‘thome york. When Sting left the police, he was Sting. He did’nt hire a bunch of hacks and kep the police name.

Axl, you owe ME an apology for being a whiny, self-centered, untalented cheeseball. Plus, your voice sounds like Phyllis Diller.

Axl fired Slash. Everyone in the band fired Steven Adler. Duff, Matt, Izzy and Dizzy all left of their own accord. Axl replaced the band members. Axl owns the band name. Any questions? I defy anyone to listen to this record objectively. It’s a damn good record.

Get in the ring,Dr.Pepper n Axl will kick ur bitcy lil ass!

This album is great why does everyone think gnr albums are all supposed to sound like appitite everyone knew what def leppard would sound like 15 years after piromania the same ! yes axl will never want to out do his earlier work so evolution is human and i wouldnt expect any less i hated appetite when it came out because it didnt sound like metal opera of the 80’s hell it took gnr lies to came out for me to see that i loved this band yes it sucks that the band split but hell so did the beatles ! axl is sharing his mind with us and by his checkbook he doesnt need to ! love or hate it but i havent heard anything creative in a long time take it for what it is “evolution”

I don’t understand why many people are attacking axel, or whatever his name is, for this.

If Dr. Pepper wanted to use axl’s product to promote their own, they should have gotten a contract and rigged some kind of deal where buyers of the CD got a coupon and the downloaders of the CD had the opportunity to print one coupon.

Then, to cover people who won’t buy the CD, they could have placed coupons in newspapers and other print media.

How would any of you like it if a corporation used your ‘reputation’ to make money for themselves without compensating you?

Not that I give a damn. I’m just trying to look at it from a disinterested perspective.

it ruined the release day for fans because they didn’t get a free soda?

i would like to know why everyone ALWAYS attacks axl. Yes we know that it’s not the same band, well guess what Izzy, Slash, and Duff left and were replaced. Yes he witheld Chinese Democracy from his fans for a long time, well he doesn’t owe anybody anything. And then he tries to get the free Dr. Pepper out to everyone, something Dr. Pepper promised and didn’t live up to, he’s actually trying to HELP HIS FANS, and all everybody does is bash him. Everyone of these bashing comments are rude, immature, and pathetic.

If anything needs cleaning up it’s Rose’s piece of shit version of a band and disaster of an album. What a dick!

I don’t think the letter was written by a lawyer. I reads like something with a raging ego and no sense of how yesterday he is.

I don’t think the letter was written by a lawyer. I reads like something by someone with a raging ego and no sense of how 1987 he is.

Axl, we like it better when you were gone

Poor Slash! Axl and Weiland both released impressive albums this week without him.

EVERYBODY HERE THAT DOESN’T LIKE THE ALBUM FUCK YOUUUUUUU, PIECES OF SHIT, THIS IS THE BEST ALBUM IN YEARS, GO AND LISTEN TO YOUR MEDIOCRE SLASH AND VELVET REVOLVER…FUCKERSSSSSSS SUCK MY COCK. LONG LIVE AXL ROSE.

Did Axl release Chinese Democracy this year so Dr. Pepper would be forced to live up to their word? If so, why after so many years does it take a publicity stunt to force the oncoming of unfinished work, or was it finished?; and for how long?… Did Dr. Pepper give away as many cans of soda as Axl sold records?… Did Axl get his free can?.. Maybe that’s why he’s so pissed.

Axl. Great job on the new album.

RS- Give the cover to him for his comeback, not Britney Spears…. My guess is that Axl very likely wants to do no press for this album though. Get In The Ring. Haha

Dr. Pepper and GNR must have planned the release date together, being that there are 23 ingredients and the number 23 on the can. The Album was released November 23rd. Ah, the cult around the number 23…. makes sense.

lastly, Although Madagascar on the new album is an older song at this point, Axl was pretty in line with the times including Martin Luther Kings’ sample in the song.. So current with the election and the new hope in America. COOL. Album was released at the right time. I think so at least.

I think axel needs to say sorry to his fans who waited ten years for trash ….At least DP tastes good, axel you got nothing going for you. Oh if I see him on the cover of RS I’m switching magazines

Wow, a sign of the times indeed.

Guns N Roses put out their first new record since forever, and Rolling Stone puts Britney Spears on the cover. Way to go, Rolling Stone. You are so cutting edge. Will Beyonce or Christina be on the next cover? This is today’s rock and roll? I’m not a GNR fan by any stretch, but I am surprised that you put Britney on the cover instead of Axl. Britney is the new Robert Downey Jr. “OH, we gotta give her another chance. She deserves a pass.” Come on. She’s a mother who cares only about herself, and not her children.

Stop complaining…the band is the singer, period. Just imagine Led Zeppelin without Robert Plant or U2 without Bono. Guns N’ Roses is all about Axl Rose.
I rather listen to my grandma play piano than ac/dc playing the same 3 notes over and over again for 30 years….
Just the fact that after 17 years people are still waiting for this album proves it. 17 years and no one was capable of replacing his position as the most important frontman of rock n roll.
After 17 years, the man is back dominating the worldwide charts. Since after Elvis joined the army, no other artist had his presence missed for so many people.
Chinese Democracy is a masterpice and Axl Rose is the greatest…

A new promotional idea, everyone in Ameirca should get a free bottle of Midol to help Axl cope with his PMS

The new album sucks even mor than his prior releases. Maybe we can get Tommy Hillfigger to kick his ass again. Now that would rock.

WAY TO BE A PUNK BITCH AXL AND COMPANY…….stupid motherfucker….albums allright not worth the wait

Bottom line is that this just further damages Axl’s already tattered reputation as a world class jerk-off.

The album’s decent but it’s gonna drop like a stone off the charts. Way too much hype for what is essentially an overproduced return to hair-metal. Even if it were worth the wait, Axl is too old to pull off the ‘rockstar’ image anyway.

Perhaps the issue is that G & R are trying to sue “Dr.” Pepper. Axl should seek better legal council (and Rolling Stone should fire their ombudsman if they have one) since the correct brand name is “Dr” Pepper.

I don’t understand that people who are still waiting for AFD II or Salsh come back , This album is really great , I can’t stop to listening almost the entire album , Thank AXL ,

I don’t understand that people who are still waiting for AFD II or Salsh come back , This album is really great , I can’t stop to listening almost the entire album , Thank AXL ,

AXL GETS MORE POSTS ON THIS BLOG THAN EVERYONE ELSE COMBINED.

Its a great album. It sounds like a lot of time, effort and creativity has been put into it (unlike some other pieces of “work” that has come out from newer bands). Its too bad that Dr P’s end of the bargain fell through-maybe the coupon should’ve been placed inside the CD case or as part of the receipt.
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You know times have changed when some people think an electronic forum equals a bathroom stall.

God people can be so wrong!!

First of all….Axl and Slash had a falling out, GN’Rs management begged Axl to get him back so he did. Then Slash quit!!

Secondly, Axl is in fact looking out for his fans on this one. Dr Pepper didn’t deliever on their promise and all Axl is doing is asking for an apology and probably an extension to get the free soda. How is this Axl whining or being a dick?..lol

Third, this album will sell!!! It may not sell a shit load in the first week, or month, but over time, it will. An exclusive deal through best buy does a few things for an album. First, it doesn’t exactly garuntee loads of sales early because not everyone can get to a best buy. However, best buy does (or should) give the band great advertising and promotion through commercials, fanfare on site, display cases of the cd, etc. For sixth months, Best Buy has the rights to this cd and I garuntee you they will do as much as they can to push the 3 million copies out their doors. Therefor, over time, it will sell! Not only that, but once Axl starts playing (maybe at the Grammy’s? ..other viewings) and performs some of the new songs..this will push the album as well. Once people discover the song “This I Love” (next November Rain in my opinion) even more people will buy this album. And then, after the 6 months, most every music store in the country will then have the album, which will lead to a few more sales.

Fourth..ofcourse this album isn’t worth the wait. Just because Axl took his time working on this album (which some of you claim is him being a dick to his fans..lol..like he owes us fans anything?) doesn’t mean that you should grade it like it should be devine like. What were you expecting..a piece of pizza to come shooting out of the cd player at the end of the last song?..lol It’s an album, and just that. Just because he took a long time on it and got a lot of publicity (not by his choice), shouldn’t mean anything! And when I hear people saying that Axl promised this record over and over, they are just flat out wrong. Over the years, he only set one release date, and it was a tentative release date for March of 06. even at the 2002 VMA’s, he told Kurt Loder to not hold his breath for the CD.

Fifth..I personally think the album is good! Just my opinion, but do people really expect this album to sound like Appetite 20 years ago?…c’mon Axl has always been about trying different stuff and GNR has always been about coming out with material that is different than anything else out there. This is no different and this album is indeed GN’R because of that reason. When Axl first came out with November Rain and the Illusions..people were saying the same stuff. “This is not GN’R” “What happened to them”…bla bla bla… Hey, I got an idea..maybe Axl likes to progress and paint a different picture?

I’ll tell you one thing…love him or hate him..people sure do like to talk about the man!!! In my book, thats a sign of a great front man!!

The only thing more pathetic than Axl Rose are GnR fans…

Say hi to Metallica for me, Axl!

My pregnant wife and I were inside the Olympic Stadium in Montreal, when Axl cut-short his concert after 45 minutes in 1992. I never got a refund! Who the hell is Axl think he is, complaing about Dr Pepper?

As a sidebar, my son, now 16, downloaded the new album. I thought, “cool, payback for not refunding my ticket in 1992…”

OMG, I didn’t get a 50 cent can of crappy soda. I’m going to sue!!!

15 years to record and yet…no one cares. Can’t he sell that peice of garbage any other way but climbing onto Dr. Peppers publicity?

dr. Pepper latched themselves onto Axl’s thing univited. Since they did that, Axl has every right to demand they cough up the cans.

It’s not worth the wait, no album is after 17 years. But it’s still a great album. Give it a few listens.

i just read all of you alls comments and you all need to get a life!!!!……lmao!!!!…..axl rules and dr pepper fucken sux!! WTF!!! METALLICA KICKS ASS DUMBFUCKS!!..by the way bad choice in picking dr pepper it sucks… worst taste in the world!!!!

Anyone whose day was ruined because they didn’t get a free can of sugar water has more problems than even the screwed up Axl Rose.

How sad is it that Axl needs more free press to sell his crappy album.

Now that was pretty god damned funny.

Picked up the album at Best Buy on Monday didn’t see one can of Dr. Pepper there, I didn’t miss it because I don’t drink soda… I was more happy that Best Buy had Appetite for Destruction on sale for $7.99, haven’t owned that album since it was on tape, rather have a deal on Appetite for Destruction then a can of Dr. Pepper thanks Best Buy.

and how many times has Axl burned the fans St. Louis in 1991? How about One in a Million? 1992 in Montreal? Axl has a history of sticking it to the fans when he gets mildly offended by anything.

Appetite was glam rock, use Your illusion was more metal while chinese democracy is more industrial. I fucking love the album, I loved the old shit.. but honestly I need music I can empathise with, and as u get older the songs about sex and drugs and just a whole heap of rebelious pissed off shit becomes hard to listen to. Ofcourse there are exceptions like the great sweet child, novermber rain.. the list goes on.

For example, when i listen to velvet revolver, I fucken love the hookey rocks songs they do.. but its all rather forgettable after a while. Chinese democracy is classic cos the songs have so much meaning, emotion and have adapted to modern times with its more industrial sound

Axl has always been the mastermind of GNR.. slash, duff n co. were the tools to make it happen, and very good tools at that. That is why imo that axl has struggled so hard to find replacements for them, and thus taken so long to do this album, simply cos the likes of slash n duff were really that fucken good. Although, I think Izzy has more to do with wat made guns n’ roses so big. He is way too underated.

I am a realist aswell, and I am sure alotta other ppl on this forum are too. I am so sick of ppl thinking we are just all worshiping axl cos we can’t let go of guns n’ roses. Fact is Axl is one talented motherfucker and we love his music cos it’s quality! Yes, he makes us wait.. but he never disappoints. He deserves the name Guns N’ Roses!

Axl Rose is a has-been. May he do the world a favor, and eat a bullet.

Let’s see, Axl has been promising this new GNR album for how long? So now he’s bitching about soda? Oh PUHLEEZ! I guess he thought that music needed an equivalent to the daytime soaps.

Thanks Uncle Axl!

Let’s just hope this doesn’t ruin Sprite’s deal with Dr. Dre’s Detox.

Lemme get this straight…

GnR is angry that something that was announced, got cancelled?

Let me ask again…

GnR is angry that something that was announced, got cancelled?

Let me ask this again…

This is a great musical work of art and anything that is outright dismissive of it, is a MORON. The stunning lack of promotion from the label, band and especially Best Buy are the only reasons this album may not shoot straight to #1 right out of the gates.
This will catch on though, don’t you folks worry. Songs like ‘Better,’ ‘IRS,’ and ‘This I Love,’ are some of the best music put out for mass consumption this decade. If they actually release a video and eventually unleash ‘This I Love’ on the radio, this album will start to gain the momentum it deserves. Great album Axl.

my god, people are so stupid

whoever bought Axl’s album in hopes that it would sound like every other GnR album is an idiot because 1- none of their albums really have a definable sound because they’re a band that likes to defy expectations and 2- like i mentioned anyone who has read a music magazine recently knows that ths is AXL, not GnR.

another point… everyone who is whining about axl being a dick or a primma donna or any shit like that is even more retarded than the last group of people. Fact is, Dr Pepper used GnR to boost sales – it was a pretty obvious, albeit cool, publicity stunt. GnR’s public image was exploited for monetary gain for a corporation that surely has enough money as it is. GnR was’nt getting anything from this, and obviously they felt betrayed. An apology is the least Dr Pepper can do; Axl isn’t suing them, he’s not even thinking of himself. He’s just asking Dr Pepper to treat his fans with some damn respect.
And if you whiney peices of shit don’t want respect thats fine,stop posting comments.

anyone who’s commenting the album ’sux’ obviously doesn’t remember when november rain copped heaps of this shit.
All you short sighted retards saying ‘lolfag axls a d1ck whers slash?’ can go listen to Velvet Revolver’s ‘awesome’ mediocrity.
You don’t deserve this album.

You should be grateful Axl was kind enough to give it to you.

Album’s great. Don’t care how long it took. Did Audioslave make a rule that you must put out a mediocre album every two years?

Axl’s cool for calling Dr Pepper on their sham.

He’s also smart for trying to get them to buy him publicity since he refuses to talk/do interviews.

By the way, other than the VMAs in ‘06 (which he apologized for in a 5 page letter) or him saying ‘this is not a promise, a lie, or a guarantee but we’d like to announce a tentative release…’ has Axl EVER ‘promised’ anything?

He’s not doing interviews and he never announced an ‘official’ release. Management did. How exactly does he whine or promise anything? EH?

really, has dr pepper, reneggged on thier deal or just got overwhelmed buy the sales of the album, give them a break lets see how they handled the over crowdesnes of the sales they be worth they are my fav drink and gnr are not my fav band, but let them correct a problem before we sue, or do we want more attention

Dr Pepper are giving away soda for free, and thats awesome! if it takes a little longer than expected its no big deal.. im sure they wont take WELL OVER A DECADE to provide what theyve promised (hint hint AXL!).

the man has been away for so long now he’s lucky to even have a second chance at being a rock star… and it looks like he’s about to blow it all over again because he’s still the same giant douche he always was.

hello liam p-m,
gnr wasn’t getting anything for this ?
you have no clue.
dr pepper used axl. so what.
he signed on.
surely for bucks and exposure.
so the stunt failed.
or did it ?

I think that Axl Rose should pay the poor people who shelled out money to buy his new album. The sound of Dr. Pepper’s fizz sounds better then his new album…

WTF? What is wrong with you people who say this album is good. This is the biggest POS work that has ever been released. I am glad I did not pay for this POS, I listen to the whole album, and promptly deleted it. You guy stopped stroke Axl’s d*ck…

When I think of Axl Rose, I only see him all fat in sweats leaning on BucketHead at Rock in Rio. Effin Hilarious. Who gives a shit? Industrial is not ‘evolving’. It might have been fifteen years ago when he started the record, but come on.
Fuck em.

Slash? Where’s Slash? Where’s Slash?

Up Scott Weiland’s ass.

Axl could give a shit less, and his music is better for it.

Never make the same album twice..
Although, its GNR by name- Its clearly Axl and thats ok.
Sure, I miss the chemistry of Izzy and Slash together- that total NY Dolls, Stones vibe meets AC/DC and that is absent in this new music…..But, these new songs blow away the majority of the garbage on the radio these days.
I want to see Axl tour with an orchestra. It would be the only real way to replicate this album live… DR Pepper F’d up.. They should have been prepared. amen.

From two posts down: “You guy stopped stroke Axl’s d*ck…”

That was the greatest thing I have ever read in my entire life.

I think the album is alright and everybody should get a can of that coke and enjoy!

Oh for the love of God. Are Axl’s people really threatening legal action over, what amounts to, a web site crashing? If they were so unhappy about Dr Pepper using them to sell soda, they should have spoken up earlier, before they needed the publicity to promote an album.

As far as whether or not Chinese Democracy will go to number one, who cares? AC/DC’s latest just topped the charts. That doesnt mean they are in any way relevant to music today, or that their best work isn’t 30 years behind them.

People who trash this record do so only because they’re “Bitter” that Axl has taken it to a whole other level. The album is amazing from beginning to end… If this was released as a “Unknown” band it would be hailed as the Coming Out party of the next Beatles. Whatever… keep hating and don’t get to upset when it wins Record of the Year!!! Dr. Pepper needs to pay up

So tell me…
Honestly…. give me a name of a “Band” or “Song” that compares to “There was a Time” or “This I Love” on this record???
No Hatin… I want to hear something that has come out in the last 10 years that comes close
I love music and the only thing that is on Par with this as Epic is Sigur Ros

This is a great album. It really is. Listen to it as music with no preconceived notions of what you think GNR is. Listen to it as music. Its not 1987 or 91 or 92 for that matter. That era is over.

If you listen to the last song on Illusion 2, “My World” and then “Oh My God”, you can see what Axl had in mind with his vision. Logical progression. I couldn’t imagine the old band playing these songs and I give credit to the new guys. The production is excellent. The musicianship is excellent. Good job. I love the Queen like majestic songs the most. The more electro rock songs are still good though.

Dr. Pepper better pay up.

WTF!!! Axl should be thanking Dr. Pepper for the free publicity!!!

Incredible!

Axl should shut the f… up and bring back the only four guys that could bring back GNR to its former glory.

We already got AFD II and III with “Velvet Revolver” and “Libertad”. They both blew. I’m moving on to Chinese Democracy….so epic and grand and beautiful.

Dr. Pepper should be thanking AXL for the free publicity. That’s the point.

Velvet Revolver is better than GNR!
Axel had a right to speak out good for him!

To News Update: Don’t say the VR albums blew. They were good. Especially Libertad. They just aren’t AS good as Chinese Democracy. How can you expect them to be when they were only worked on for a few months. Axl put a lot more effort into Democracy. Likewise Happy In Galoshes. Weiland had been working on that for years. It’s bound to be better and it is.

“People who trash this record do so only because they’re “Bitter” that Axl has taken it to a whole other level.”

A whole new level of WHAT?
Retardedness?

JAJAJAJA, VR BETTER THAN GNR ???????? Libertad is amost AFD II ?? are you insane ??? VR Is a good band but not as good as GUNS N’ ROSES NEVER¡¡¡¡

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Guns and Roses sucks now, and Axel is an egotistical prig!

Guns N’ Roses needs to chill out.

I luv the new guns album.
sincerely,
a fan since the beginning.

Ok, let’s clarify. VR was the remaining members’ of GNR attempt to recapture what was AFD. The two albums they released both try, and fail, to do that. Slash recycled way too many riff ideas from AFD on these two albums. Weilands’ attempt at posing decadence and paranoia is laughable and forgettable. In no way am I saying these albums ARE AFD II and III, that’s just the half-baked concept of VR. Separately, the elements of VR have my full respect. Together, it just didn’t work.

i demand an apology for this album

i demand an apology for this album

Who cares morons. If you like the album, who gives a damn what anyone else thinks? My opinion…ok album…not something that should take 15 years to make though.

I truly enjoy this album! It feels to me that there are a lot of people out there that just can’t get over the fact that the original band isn’t all together, or the fact that this album doesn’t sound anything like Appetite. I would encourage people to get past that and listen to this album with an open mind. Does it have 14 great songs on it? No, but what album even has half that many great songs on it? I personally think two songs are phenominal in Better and This I Love. I think these songs have a chance to be a really big success in mainstream. And then there is another six songs that I enjoy listening to, about three that are mediocre for me, and only three that come across as bad. When you come across an album that has 11 songs on it that are worthy of listening to, I believe that is a great record. I think in time, after more promotion, and given fair listens, this album will become a years best and ultimately one of the great records of this decade. In just about every review that you read, the writer lists different favorites from the review before. To me, that means good things.

Merely a publicity stunt to get GnR in the headlines to try to sell more copies of a mediocre album.

Slash lovers are saying a lot of bullshit…just listen to the solo on Sorry….there is a Page-Perry thing going on…similar to what overrated Slash used to do.
Listen the cd first….
It’s already #1 in a lot of countries.
Here in Brazil is very hard to sell a record because there are those fuckers selling false cds on every corner….and after 15 years, Guns N’ Roses is already #1, beated even our most popular artists.

Why is Axl made at Dr. Pepper? They have done more publicity for Chinese Democracy than that lazy piece of shit in the last few months. No wonder the album sells dick.

Sincerely,

A fan who got dicked over at the Philly concert you never showed up for. I still want an explanation, asshole!

Mark, it’s cause hes a dick and always has been. He’s always looking for fights.

*Marc, sorry

Axl=talented dick
Oasis=ripoff dicks

Axl would rather be in court than the studio.

Go to Law School and do what you really want, stop trying to make us think you are a composer.

P.S. – as for Dr. Pepper, maybe you should give them more than one week. They are trying to get it together. It took you 17 years before you could get an album of original music out, so maybe you could cut them a break for at least another month or so.

P.S.S. – Dr. Pepper wasn’t responsible to advertise your albums release and make it sell more than Kanye the first week. Don’t sue them like they were. It’s not their fault you couldn’t reach No.1.

Dr. Pepper will apologize as soon as Axel does for being too drunk and stoned to even perform at concerts he canceled throughout the 80s.

“velvet Revolver is just as good as GnR!”

If put poop in my pocket, it cools off at the same rate as vomit. THey are equal in that respect. Thus, poop is as good as vomit.

Gnr is a joke. Can you sue for being the butt of a joke?

Axel and co. are truly lame. If I want to hear real rocknroll, Ill turn on some Eagles of Death Metal.

Fuck no, Im not done.

I remember all the stories where Axel would throw chairs out of hotel penthouses.

The only story I want to read now is the story where he throws HIMSELF off of a penthouse balcony.

Everytime I think of Axl I want to drink a tooth rotting Dr.Pepper and BURP!

I demand an apology from Axel Rose over CD fiasco. God this guy is such a loser!!! Glad the CD has landed, the hype is over and life can now go on. Axel, your not that important get over yourself!!

Axl rules!! Way to stand up for the “Average Joe” Axl!! I couldn’t get my Dr. Pepper.

listen to gossamer by the smashing pumpkins.. its only a song they play live but its bad ass.

I like how the Axl basher’s come on here tear him down and say nobody cares about GnR anymore.. LOL well I guess the hater’s do care, since they took their time to write on this message board.

The Dr Pepper situation ! some of you need to go take business class and then you will understand.

Lennon, Dylan, Rose…. They each caught flak in their day.

I can eat a box of Alphabits and crap better lyrics!

My god that album is horrible! It took 17 years to make that turd?

soooo… it’s basically official. Guns N’ Roses debut at #3 on the US… Taylor Swift did better… on her third week! FAIL. They also debuted at #2 in the UK, behind The Killers.

Hank=jealous douchebag
Eagles of Death Metal=average
Axl Rose=genius

Axl Rose is a FRAUD.

Don’t give him your money.

Chinese Democracy is tanking, it’ll be forgotten before the end of the year.

/jarmo

My hatred for GnR aside… They want a public apology over this “Dr. Pepper fiasco”? Really? Seriously? For reals? Shut the fuck up.

Who’s the idiot who said “Lennon, Dylan, Rose…. They each caught flak in their day” Dont you ever try to compare that red headed step child to gods.

The Really Sad thing is we live in a world where
Axl Rose & Michel Jackson can walk arround unharmed
but John Lennon & George Harrison were Killed & Attacked by Wackos.

Like the one person posetd on RS It took 17 years to release the album
maybee Dr Pepper should take 17 years to get arround to handing out the soda.

Easy Fix to the whole problem – Include a free CD in each Dr Pepper Soda Case
as a promo, that way Axl can get his album sales up by being distributed to
unsuspecting soda buying consumers & Dr Pepper has a nice promotion where
they give away a free “coaster” with each case of soda. Win-Win situation. No?

The Really Sad thing is we live in a world where
Axl Rose & Michel Jackson can walk arround unharmed
but John Lennon & George Harrison were Killed & Attacked by Wackos.

Like the one person posetd on RS It took 17 years to release the album
maybee Dr Pepper should take 17 years to get arround to handing out the soda.

Easy Fix to the whole problem – Include a free CD in each Dr Pepper Soda Case
as a promo, that way Axl can get his album sales up by being distributed to
unsuspecting soda buying consumers & Dr Pepper has a nice promotion where
they give away a free “coaster” with each case of soda. Win-Win situation. No?

I demand an apology for all the dipshits spelling AXL, AXEL.

I expect an appology from Axl Rose for ruining the legend of Guns n Roses. If he wanted to make progress as an artist, why not change his band name when he replaced every member of the band???? This is exactly why Def Karaoke Jam’s song about “Axl Rose” is better than anything he’s done in the last 15 years.

I’d rather drink a Dr. Pepper than listen to the garbage that Axl and his band just put out.

lol, Axl Rose and Kurt Kobain are the most important people in usa music

funny, that guy, axl rose…how can he record a solo album and call it a GnR album ?$?$

well mynameisearl, i guess thats a good point…
but do you really think that Axl was looking for publicity? i think he’s proven that he doesn’t care that much – thirteen years and a whole lot of money? if he was only in it for the money, he would’ve released a quick job album, rather than a 71 minute carefully produced and written, daring peice of work.
And this ‘deal’ went both ways; who drinks Dr Pepper? you cant really think this whole legal action thing was about publicity for the supposedly ‘failing’ album? this sort of publicity doesn’t sell albums, it gets people to go and download it illegally.
i haven’t bought the album or downloaded it as of yet. i listened to it on their myspace where they were streaming it FOR FREE.

what are you suggesting, some sort of conspiracy? they planned this fiasco, so that Chinese Democracy would be downloaded a few more times?
really.

definitely no conspiracy.
don’t be so paranoid.
paxil rose has rushed to blame a corporate sponsor for his lackluster release.
he should start touring asap and give the fans who pay a great performance for their hard earned concert buck.
it’s never been about the soda.
if he is so bent on releasing the thing his own way why didn’t he go for the prepay download choice ?
because there’s no money in it, that’s why !
if anybody feels W.A.Rose isn’t interested in money then why the lawsuit ?

by the way,
since you have not paid for the music and bootlegged it,
he might want to sue you too.
ouch.

I don’t even have the album, i listened to it on their site. i haven’t bootlegged it. did you buy it? lacklustre release you say. i for one dissagree, and plan on buying the album when it appears in stores in Australia, where i live. The albums dissapointing sales is a result of total lack of promotion from axl and best buy, i dont think it has anything to do with the worth of the album – after all, fall out boy sells millions, but everyone hates them. its a result of single promotion and advertising.
You’re reading too much into this supposed lawsuit. they’re not SUING dr pepper, they’re THREATENING LEGAL ACTION, and demanding an apology. there is a huge difference.

and i agree, axl should start touring, but thats his choice, just like it’s his choice to want an apology.
you want him to respect fans that bought the album and give them the chance to shell out for a tour that’s ticket prices will be stupidly expensive? thats fine.
axl wants Dr Pepper to respect the fans they promised a free can to.

where do you draw the line, it all seems to be matters of respect.

Axl is so narcissistic, I’ve figured he’ll blame DEMOCRACY’s under-performance on someone other than himself. I’ve wondered who it will be. So now I figure maybe somehow in his brain he can claim that, but for Dr. Pepper, DEMOCRACY would have outsold every other GnR album.

u guys stop talking shi** about axl cuse u dont know him or bucket head so if u have nothing nice 2 say then judt SHUT UP! and if u got something to say 2 me go ahead

hey nick u know what u should just shut up cuse if u would hear chinese domocracy u would know that it is a bad ass albome!

axl only gets into fights becase people know he does not like to get pissed off and leave but people piss him off anyways so it is not his falt!all u axl haters

finaly someone who onderstands thank u danimol

for your info valvet revolver in my opinion is a joke slashes wife dose not even listen 2 them she listens 2 guns n roses and im not making this up its on an inteview with her on youtube so what then :p

ok people we all get it im sorry if u went 2 one of his conserts and he never showed up but the passed is the passed just foreget it and if u dont like his music then just dont be haters :/

axl forever!

i agree with beatles fan

nick you know what your an axl hater and u know it! so just fuck off bicth and your know what truth yes the truth hurts dont u agree its harder to live with the truth about u than to live with the lies about me and thats a song by gnr and if u have something to say come say it to my face! :I

im tierd of the bull shit! if u say guns n roses isnt guns n roses any more WITH OUT SLASH then FUCK OFF! THIS IS GUNS N ROSES AND IF U DONT LIKE IT THEN FUCK OFF AND LISTIN TO THE CRAP U WANA LISTIN TO BUT GUNS N ROSES ISNT GONA CHANGE BECAUSE YOU DONT LIKE IT! IF U DONT LIKE IT THEN DEAL WITH IT BICHT! AXL DOESNT HAVE TO DO SHIT JUST CUSE YOU DONT LIKE IT ASS HOLE! U DONT LIKE IT DEAL WITH IT! THIS IS GUNS N ROSES NOW!