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New Guns n’ Roses Leak: “Shackler’s Revenge”

8/14/08, 2:08 pm EST

After a mess of leaked GNR tracks popped up a few months back, another new cut has apparently popped up online. “Shackler’s Revenge” (which was supposed to have its premiere on the upcoming sequel to the video game “Rock Band”) opens with a deep-voiced Axl gradually building towards his characteristic yowl, and features guitar noodling that is very likely the work of the man called Buckethead. The song’s low crunch sticks with the album’s long-stated industrial leanings, and again, layers upon layers of Axls create a particular sort of demented choir. We’re getting thirsty for some Dr. Pepper.


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Arch Stanton | 8/14/2008, 6:31 pm EST

I remember when Cobain almost beat Axl down in ‘92 when Nirvana refused to tour with GNR. I still smile thinking how much Rose probably steams about being over taken by a guy who could have cared less about being the rock star that he was. Axl is no better than eddie vedder. keep your 1990 irrevelant music in the vault….Long Live Cobain.

Willy D | 8/14/2008, 6:41 pm EST

But how easy is it to forget that it was actually Axle that originated all of that. I eat poop.

dan1101 | 8/14/2008, 6:43 pm EST

And that alleged story is relevant how? We won’t be getting any new music from Kurt, let’s at least hope that Axl releases his eventually.

Anonymous | 8/14/2008, 6:44 pm EST

Arch Stanton. You are a big cry baby. Long Live Cobain…uh…You know that fuck up blew his brains out back in ‘94 right?

GET OVER IT | 8/14/2008, 6:56 pm EST

CAN EVERYONE GET OVER THEIR KURT COBAIN FIX ALREADY. HOW CAN ANYONE IDOLIZE A MAN THAT BLEW HIS BRAINS OUT.

brett | 8/14/2008, 6:59 pm EST

how will dr pepper go about giving one can to every person in america??? exactly?

Arch Stanton is stuck in 1992 | 8/14/2008, 7:01 pm EST

Are you a moron? Or just plainly retarded. What do you remember about Cobain? Because Cobain never “almost beat Axl down”. It was quite the opposite actually. Are you seriously saying “Long Live Cobain” about a pussy and weak excuse of a man that just couldn’t bear living anymore??? Oh God… this life is so tough… I can’t handle it anymore… even though I have a new kid… you know what, just fk it!!! fk it all!!! I’m gonna blow my head off!!! I hate this life and this world!!! It’s all so sad and so mean!!!

Raised Eyebrow | 8/14/2008, 7:07 pm EST

That is the stupidest thing I have ever read. WHO CARES about 1992. Go listen to some Foo Fighters.

I am constantly blown away about how “fans” feel they have a say in who when and where the music comes out, and how they think, and I use that term loosely, that their rantings against them, whining, complaining etc, has any bearing on when and how an album is released.

Grow up .

TIm | 8/14/2008, 7:18 pm EST

Can’t believe how outdated “Shackler’s revenge” sounds!

nirvana suck | 8/14/2008, 7:33 pm EST

nirvana always sucked, cobain was an egotistical idiot, nirvana never had more than a handful of decent songs, where gnr managed to have a debut album that wiped the floor of everything then and since. If he hadnt had shot himself he would just be another washed up rock star, im not saying axl is any better, but at least he doesnt feel the need to take a shotgun to his head.

Chris | 8/14/2008, 7:34 pm EST

I can’t understand why Guns and Nirvana can’t co-exist peacefully…….If George Bush thinks “man and fish” can two old bands can easily!

Nick | 8/14/2008, 7:43 pm EST

Fuck Cobain Arch. Ego or not, Axl shits all over Cobain on his worst day. People who speak about this punk as if he’s the Generation X’s John Lennon make me sick. This is a man who loved his baby daughter so much that he offed himself with a shotgun and left her with Courtney Love. What a legend! And if I recall correctly, and I do, it was Axl that wanted to beat Cobain’s ass for acting a fool backstage at the 92 VMA’s. Get your facts straight. Long live Axl.

Tdawgdingdang | 8/14/2008, 7:52 pm EST

What I am hoping for is an infusion of the whole situation. A Nirvana reunion tour with Axle rose filling in for Kurt.

John | 8/14/2008, 8:19 pm EST

haha Nirvana…talk about dated…and by the way Arch Stanton…Guns N Roses were still the biggest band in the world when Kurt blew his brains out….and as time has gone on…GNR is recognized as the better band…and has WAY more fans today than Nirvana…and as far as Cobain kicking Axl’s ass..I quote Cobain as he talking about the MTV awards “I coudnt possibly kick Axl Rose’s ass, the man is insane.” Do some research…

John | 8/14/2008, 8:22 pm EST

and another thing…Arch…can you explain to me how Axl was “overtaken” by Kurt…Kurt is dead….Axl Rose has the most aniticpated album in the history of rock album set to come out….Guns N Roses were still selling out stadiums all over the world 2 years after Nevermind came out…if Kurt were still alive he would be doing a co-headlining tour of dive bars in seattle with Screaming Trees..hahah

ian | 8/14/2008, 8:37 pm EST

its too bad g’n'r is terrible…next story please

Leonardo | 8/14/2008, 8:40 pm EST

Arch…Axl almost blew Kurt’s stupid face on the MTV movie awards…do not twist the facts my friend…
Guns sold millions of records worldwide and in USA….millions more than Nirvana…Kurt is a good artist but is overrated, never sounded good alive…I saw him in Brazil and he sucked….
Axl Rose on the other hand…needs no introduction…the man is a myth…is an icon….

Leonardo | 8/14/2008, 8:43 pm EST

Axl Rose is GOD…..

Nick | 8/14/2008, 9:23 pm EST

who cares about Kobane? NIrvava sucked harded. Funny how all the Nervana fans come onto the gnr postings.

AG | 8/14/2008, 9:24 pm EST

1. Axl is a genius
2. Nirvana sucks
3. This song is amazing
4. Axl could beat Kurt into the ground.

Anonymous | 8/14/2008, 10:22 pm EST

wow,
pretty harsh everyone.
who the fuck cares anyway.
anyone who drags out this kind of mess and produces nothing but shit music and hype shouldn’t get our attention

Mr. Brownstone | 8/14/2008, 11:45 pm EST

Why are people still talking about Axl Rose vs. Nirvana? More importanly, the new song rocks if you give it a few listens. People hear it and dismiss it because it’s not Welcome to the Jungle or November Rain. Artists’ music has to change because people change. No one wants to hear another version of Appetite for Destruction. At least give it a chance and the credit it deserves as a quality piece of music, even if you don’t like the new sound.

Vedder is Better | 8/14/2008, 11:46 pm EST

Don’t care for this new song. Hard to believe that it’s taken Axl well over a decade for this. But, I won’t pass final judgment until I hear Chinese Democracy in it’s entirety.

Hey Arch,
I’ve seen a lot of your posts around here. You need to get over the whole Nirvana vs. Pearl Jam rants. Eddie and Kurt resolved their differences, so grow up. Also, Dave and Krist hung out with Pearl Jam after Kurt killed himself. So, they all seem to be cool with each other. Get over it.

Also, if my memory serves me right, Kurt and Axl were both acting like kids with their little feud at the VMAS. I like Nirvana and G’N'R, but Kurt was brat and Axl is a megalomaniac.

chinesedemocracy.com | 8/15/2008, 12:09 am EST

Song is great. Very industial sounding I really like it.

Ali | 8/15/2008, 12:10 am EST

This song is fantastic. Aggressive, with a stomping beat and vicious vocals and catchy as hell to boot. Awesome!

Ali

Jeff | 8/15/2008, 12:12 am EST

First of all, what happened to “Off-topic comments will be deleted”?

Second of all, I swear earlier this afternoon when the news first broke, all the comments on here were positive. They somehow vanished and now it’s 80% negative posts.

This song rocks. The solos rip. It sounds fresh. I don’t think it’s the final mix because Axl’s vocals are a little buried at times.

For a 46 year old, this is pretty fucking cool stuff!

Daniel | 8/15/2008, 12:44 am EST

i think artists should take a lesson from axl
make production costs for albums ungodly
take an enormous amount of time making the album
above everything though
make that moth****cker rock

AXL ROSE | 8/15/2008, 6:20 am EST

FUCKING GOOOOOOOD

kyle brooklyn | 8/15/2008, 7:36 am EST

sorry guys but cobain has released more new music than axl in the last 15 years

explain that

J | 8/15/2008, 8:29 am EST

Nirvana and Guns n’ Roses Rule

Axl Foley | 8/15/2008, 9:00 am EST

Cobain, terrible father. Very selfish to put his problems before his kid.
He was rich, loved, talented. If he had problems, he would have been more of a man to work on them instead of sinking into drugs and taking the easy way out.
He’s no messiah. Just a bitchy guy that didn’t know if he wanted to be famous or not.

Ari | 8/15/2008, 9:10 am EST

Weighing in at this corner…from L.A,California….GUNS N’ ROSES! Get in the ring mofo, and I’m gonna kick your bitchy li’l ass…..

DanJames | 8/15/2008, 9:29 am EST

Shut up about Nirvana….they have nothing to do with this new song.

The song sounds amazing from beginnning to end. Axl’s voice is better than ever and the guitar is awsome. People love to pass judgement because it doesn’t sound like AFD or the Illusion ablums, of course it’s not going to, it’s 2008 now!! Chinese Democracy is going to be much better than anything that has come out in the last 10 years and I can’t wait.

And what did happen to all the beginning posts about the song?? They were all positive and now all I see is stupid remarks about Nirvana and Pearl Jam. IRRELEVANT!!!!!!!

megatron1 | 8/15/2008, 9:48 am EST

Why in the hell are we even talking about Nirvana and Cobain?! Isn’t this article about Axl and this new leaked crap……I mean really, let the GNR vs Nirvana beef die already. They’re both totally different great bands………..move on

Megatron1 | 8/15/2008, 9:51 am EST

Why is Cobain and Nirvana even being dicussed?! Isn’t this article about Axl and this new leaked crap……..I mean really, let the GNR vs Nirvana beef die already. They’re two totally different great bands………time to move on

ben fong torres | 8/15/2008, 10:04 am EST

I just listened the new track. I’ve been a gnr fan since 1990, have all their records, i think all the new stuff sucks big time. you will never see led zeppelin without jimmy page, or aerosmith without joe perry. no slash, not gnr. this should be called axl’solo project.

Judge Judy | 8/15/2008, 10:10 am EST

Axl wins because he is alive, end of debate.

Pergy | 8/15/2008, 10:21 am EST

Kind of a different song for GNR…but nonetheless its a good catchy tune, nothing to do back flips over but definitely better than most music that is out there today…based off the 11 or so leaks you can really see the musical range Axl envisions GNR having, its a shame the old members wanted no part of this growth…good job Axl

V | 8/15/2008, 11:20 am EST

This could possibly be a good record from Axl Rose but this is NOT Guns and Roses. News flash………..GNR broke a long time ago. Do Plant and Page call themselves Led Zeppelin? Why the hell do Daltrie and Townsend still call themselves the Who? The Who aint The Who without Moon and Entwhistle. GNR aint GNR without Slash, Stradlin, and McKaggan. WTF?

Arch Stanton Open Ur Eyes | 8/15/2008, 11:21 am EST

U like many rush to burn Axl and like most have said, u need to research this, ur comment sounds of that of a high school kid who has no idea of Axl and GNR or Nirvana for that matter. Grow Up

To the others | 8/15/2008, 11:24 am EST

Saying this isnt GNR is bogus as well. The original memebers signed away the name to Axl. So there is two options, Listen or go away, its that simple.

V | 8/15/2008, 12:46 pm EST

A band is a lot more than signing away your naming rights. Axl has been irrelevent since GNR broke-up. Axl is using the GNR name to try and make himself relevent again ’cause he can’t do it on his own. He’s using the GNR name simply because it’s more recognizable and will sell more records versus him having the balls, or should I say talent, to actually do something on his own. Of course that would fail miserably. The only hope he has at this point is to use the GNR name to get delusioned past GNR fans like yourself to buy his crap. Quit being a GNR homer and realize that without the original lineup, it’s just another GNR cover band with Axl on lead vocals.

He would get a lot more respect if he used a different band name, not to mention that whatever crap he eventually barfs out will ALWAYS be compared to past GNR records and that is a losing battle.

Listen or go away – hmmmm, I have listened and the new material is mediocre at best. I’ll think I’ll pass on that crap-load of an album that he’s been working on for like 20-years now. It is destined for failure.

Swingline | 8/15/2008, 1:20 pm EST

Some people will love Axl above all and defend even his squeaky farts for being musically brilliant. Others hate the man to no end and won’t ever give it a fair listen.

If this were a song by Orgy, would it be as amazing as some see it?

Loved a lot of the old stuff, don’t think much of the new song, but that’s just one take.

You can definitely tell by the emotions flying around that people are ready to jump all over it, in both good and bad ways. For a project that keeps losing money by the day, would be nice for somebody on the inside to nudge this album closer to a release date.

C | 8/15/2008, 1:31 pm EST

Ok quick history lesson.

AFD was a big success and same with UY1 and 2. Axl had a vision (November Rain,Estranged) Slash and Duff didn’t want to do any of those songs (Slash even admits he doesn’t like SCOM) Axl had to force them to do those songs. Long and behold Izzy left the band,Sorum got fired along with Gilby,Slash QUIT !!! then later Duff left as well.

Now 15 years later new band, same name, reinvented themselves and this is what we get a KICK ASS SONG.

letterman | 8/15/2008, 1:56 pm EST

This isn’t Guns N’ Roses. This is Axl Rose failing a poor attempt to start a solo career. What a worthless piece of crap. He has no respect for the fans. He has to make a record that will surpass 15 years or (mabey more depending on how long he wants to play with our fucking heads) of pointless waiting. Can he do it? No, thats a fucking given. It’s not Gun’s and Roses. He should just release this shit record because people are gonna hate him if he does for making em wait for bullshit and they are gonna hate him even more for not doing it. Either way hes a piece of shit

darntootin | 8/15/2008, 2:37 pm EST

i think this is the most fun song to listen to of all the recent gnr leaks. in fact, it is one of my favorites. based on what i’ve heard, whenever chinese democracy is released it seems like it is going to be a diverse and enjoyable hard rock record.

it seems like critics of the new stuff mostly articulate one of two arguments…either they complain because the record has taken so long to come out and doesn’t meet their expectations of what an album that takes that long to release should sound like because they essentially expect perfection…or they complain because it does not sound like appetite despite the fact that neither of the illusions really sound all that much like appetite either (not to mention appetite was released over 20 years ago). i think those are unfair criticisms. if you don’t like it, that’s fine. and if you feel the need to explain why, that’s fine too. i can understand criticisms of the chaotic production, mild industrial influences, or even simply that it is not your cup of tea. but the apparent need to bash the songs because they are not perfect or because they don’t sound like appetite is getting really annoying.

Bono | 8/15/2008, 2:57 pm EST

Hello everyone. I know everyone is waiting for my take on this new “GnR” track. Listen, the only true winner here is The Edge. No, he is not the greatest guitarist who ever lived…..he is the greatest living thing…ever. Yes Jesus, that includes you in your time here in this toilet bowl we call Earth. Thank you.

Another history lesson | 8/15/2008, 3:00 pm EST

Obviously, the head bangers are still mad that Kurt and his buddies broke up their party a while back.

Of course GNR survived the 90’s, they had become as iconic as Aerosmith, AC/DC, etc. and that kind of legacy can live through a change in the market. But for the Bullet Boys, Warrant, White Lion, Slaughter, Firehouse, etc., Nirvana’s emergence meant the end. Heck, even Motley Crue and Bon Jovi had to go into hiding for a few years.

So while Nirvana couldn’t sink GNR, they sure sunk a lot of other bands. The resentment over that is still obviously barely below the surface. I know this is a fact, because my cousin is a die-hard 80’s rocker and he can’t stand Nirvana because in his words “they came along and made all of my bands look like a joke.”

In Kurt’s defense, I would say that most of those bands already looked like a joke (Warrant in the “Down Boys” video, for example), Kurt just stood up and pointed it out, and everybody laughed. Don’t kill the messenger, folks…

And as far as this statement: “…if Kurt were still alive he would be doing a co-headlining tour of dive bars in seattle with Screaming Trees..hahah”, you say that like it would suck!! Sure beats the debacle that is a GNR show…Axelrod running around with a leather face, pot belly and horrible extensions, showing up 3 hours late to play, if he even shows up at all. If that’s what you’re into, then I guess “ROCK ON!!”

CT | 8/15/2008, 3:09 pm EST

Hey Ben, there already was an Aerosmith without Joe Perry….Look up a guitar player named Jimmy Crespo.

to V | 8/15/2008, 4:23 pm EST

Then get off a GNR topic then my friend, and quit writin stuff on here, its the best thing for u to do

Kyle | 8/15/2008, 4:25 pm EST

Yeah, but Rock In A Hard Place was Aerosmith’s worst album by far. And the only one that did not have Joe Perry playing on it.

GNR | 8/15/2008, 4:49 pm EST

another history lesson = an idiot!

were you even listening to music when nirvana first came out? I hate how some people say they killed hair metal. hair metal was becoming tiresome anyways, its not like nirvana came out then hair metal went right away. nirvana came out in 91 – if they killed hair metal, how come it was still going strong and getting rotation on mtv in 93?

and nirvana didnt try to kill gnr – they were actually fans of the band – do some research instead of listening to ppl who like to alter history as they see fit.

To V and The Haters | 8/15/2008, 4:56 pm EST

Whats the deal with people saying that just because a band sounded a certain way back when, that they should keep doin it over and over, Its not what they do, they grow up just as well as some people on this post should. V go to a Nirvana board and live there. And anyone else, go look up ur band and leave people who like another band other than urs alone. I dont diss Nirvana on a Nirvana post, Hell I dont even read it if Im not into that specific bands music, but I guess Im more mature than half the people on this post

Swingline | 8/15/2008, 5:20 pm EST

I don’t agree with the notion that Nirvana and Co. being drug into the conversation, but I do think that this can’t be a showcase of just one point of view. Some of these people, myself included, were fans of GnR, bought albums and concert tix. That doesn’t mean that we automatically HAVE to like the new stuff just because Axl plugged in the drum machine and took 12 years to figure out how to use it.

There’s every bit of a right to say it’s great as much as it sucks. GnR is a band with history that’s more years than music, so different people got on/off the bus at different stages, and they’ve all got a take.

Jeff | 8/15/2008, 5:22 pm EST

Blah blah blah where’s Slash blah blah blah China will be a democracy before this comes out blah blah blah it’s not Guns N’ Roses blah blah blah it’s Axl’s solo project blah blah blah yada yada yada zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Axl Rose is supposed to make Appetite part II because A: it’s 2008, B: he’s 46 years old, C: old cockrocker burnouts who think “Anything Goes” is the best song they ever wrote say he should, D: Velvet Revolver already tried that and looked ridiculous trying.

Shackler’s Revenge rocks. All 10 leaks we’ve had this year rock and they’re all completely different from each other.

You love it and you know it!

Marksammut | 8/15/2008, 5:41 pm EST

I think this song is pretty darn good, much better than any of the crap out these days. BUT this song is NOT confirmed to be Shacklers Revenge, the guitar parts are too hard to play on rock band.

Joe | 8/15/2008, 5:54 pm EST

When’s Nirvana’s next album coming out?

Aloneshark | 8/15/2008, 7:14 pm EST

Shut up & tell us where we get the song! I’ve searched everywhere!!

Aloneshark | 8/15/2008, 7:15 pm EST

Shut up & tell us where we get the song! I’ve searched everywhere!!

Long Live Axl! | 8/15/2008, 7:20 pm EST

Where can i hear this song!!!!

dmo8768 | 8/15/2008, 7:24 pm EST

who the f— cares.

Steve | 8/15/2008, 7:26 pm EST

Train wreck! Train wreck! Train wreck!

aloneshark | 8/15/2008, 7:34 pm EST

Well if you dont care, then shut the f*#k up!

aloneshark | 8/15/2008, 8:00 pm EST

Ok, I found it! The new album(s) is going to rock. This is no Velvet Revolver!

hahahaha | 8/15/2008, 9:05 pm EST

The “I dont care” comments, people take the time to read the link click on it, most likely read the article, and then post somthing and say I dont care.. get a life.

wayneh | 8/15/2008, 10:59 pm EST

good music is timeless no matter who it is curt or axl

h2sublime | 8/16/2008, 12:07 am EST

Hey wake up and listen to the great music coming your way on Chinese Democracy. I think people like to bash Axl because they have too much free time. Why waist the time to click on the link only to talk about Nirvana? Go to a nirvana message board and leave this one to GNR fans. I like Nirvana and all but who gives a crap about a rivalry from 15 years ago? Give the new music a few listens. It really grows on you.

YAY | 8/16/2008, 12:30 am EST

love it sounds great!!!

Dowunder | 8/16/2008, 2:49 am EST

I’m a long time GNR fan and have patiently waited for the new music and quite frankly it’s disappointing, hopefully the album will be better.

Anonymous | 8/16/2008, 8:32 am EST

Interesting, we live in a world where saying something good about someone or something means you are a sheep. We are compelled to say something negative so that we appear informed. There is nothing negative about news on such a great band. Who cares? All non haters and nonconformers.
One of our artists sometime sounds a lot like Axl and we love it!

Bob McCox | 8/16/2008, 12:59 pm EST

Axl has the right to use the band name Guns N Roses. I love all the new stuff he is bringin out and its great that its gettin leaked. But Im tired of people sayin that he should use a different band name here are some singers that use the band name when its really just the singer with a new line – up
Dave Mustaine – Megadeth
David Coverdale – Whitesnake
Lemmy – Motorhead
Ozzy Osbourne
Alice Cooper
Marcus Christopher – Miss Crazy
Wednesday 13

Joe | 8/16/2008, 1:19 pm EST

Pretty amazing how Axl and Bono get more hits than anyone when something surfaces on here about them.

Tim | 8/16/2008, 2:28 pm EST

Guns N Roses! Chinese Democracy!

ffflllaacc | 8/16/2008, 6:52 pm EST

desde argentina este leak es buenisimo ojala el disco este por salirrrrrrrrr

D | 8/17/2008, 7:18 am EST

Another History Lesson, U NEED A HISTORY LESSON. BonJovi didnt go into “Hiding” Jon released his mega successful solo Blaze of Glory album in 91. Triple platinum in the US with a number 1 single. The band THEN released “Keep The Faith” at the height of Grunge in 1992 and it sold VERY well, their tour was successful as always and they had a huge hit with Bed Of Roses.

so unless u know what u are talkin about, dont comment on the subject please.

Guitarist | 8/17/2008, 1:13 pm EST

Thats not Buckethead, its Bumblefoot!
The solo sounds a lot like BBF’s fretless and BBF’s licks

dancelaz | 8/17/2008, 1:47 pm EST

My son was buried in a Guns and Roses jacket that had signatures of the 1992 concert in Phoenix Arizona he was 13 and was accidentally shot by his good friend so if anyone who has deep feelings and respect for the band its me. To all the Fan’s of GNR and to Travis friends I salute take care and peace on earth

Anonymous | 8/17/2008, 4:20 pm EST

The song suck big time. over ten years and how many millions spent on this thing and this is what botox boy comes up with.

Anonymous | 8/17/2008, 6:11 pm EST

Petition for Bo Diddley on the Cover of RS’ year end issue.

Axl, great work..

letterman | 8/17/2008, 8:12 pm EST

This is Axl Rose failing a poor attempt to start a solo career.

tomservo | 8/17/2008, 9:03 pm EST

It’s just like Axl to keep fans waiting…and waiting..and waiting. BRILLIANT!!

Otis | 8/17/2008, 9:19 pm EST

When there’s a release date for the album, let us know. Until then, stop running stories on the Axl Rose Band.

Clayton | 8/17/2008, 10:20 pm EST

Kick ass track! Uncle Bill is gonna bring it! – :)

Catalina | 8/18/2008, 6:00 am EST

Axl sounds better singing in a low voice.

But the song is crap.

CT | 8/18/2008, 8:14 am EST

I find it interesting that when an article about GN’R pops up Nirvana is brought up as well. I am a fan of both bands and I consider them my generations Beatles and Stones. The truth of the matter is Axl and Kurt had more in common with each other than differences. They were “cut from the same cloth”. Conversely, Guns N’ Roses and Nirvana as bands were different from one another. Nirvana had more in common with AC/DC. I don’t mean to say they wrote similar sounding music but that all Nirvana’s album have a very “pronounced” sound. Nirvana’s music is not very diverse from album to album. Bleach, Nevermind and In Utero are very similar sounding albums. Incesticide is marginally different in sound. Guns N’ Roses on the other hand have much more in common with Queen. Every album GN’R put out is different from one another. AFD is different from Lies which is different from the Illusion records and most certainly will be different from Chinese Democracy.

Nirvana and Guns N’ Roses should not inspire some of the posts I’ve read. They should inspire a celebration of good music because love Nirvana or GN’R or hate Nirvana or GN’R no one can deny their talents.

Hating bands should be reserved for the likes of Hinder etc…

God | 8/18/2008, 1:39 pm EST

Everything you know and love about GNR was because Axl had final say.
Sure, the chords or riffs may have not always been his ideas, but he wanted it the way he wanted it.
They could have made Appetite 2 in ‘91, but Axl didn’t want that. The rest of GNR didn’t really see the UYI’s as the great albums they were, timeless. Listen to them today, they sound as good now as they did in ‘91.
All respect for Nirvana, but some of their work seems a bit dated now, just as if Axl would have made two or more albums that sounded like AFD, but he didn’t..not that he couldn’t have. It was a total risk to make songs like November Rain or Estranged after songs like Rocket Queen or It’s So Easy.
You can say you don’t like the new GNR, but give it a chance. Outside of delays, Axl’s material rarely disappoints.

CardinalBass | 8/18/2008, 2:25 pm EST

I think the album sounds great, and his voice is in great condition. But when I think of Axl Rose, I think of delays, cancellations and dissapointments. I’ve got the album, so I’m happy.

x | 8/18/2008, 2:50 pm EST

I can’t believe I actually read through all this crap, you all suck for wasting my time.

LatexSolarBeef | 8/18/2008, 4:01 pm EST

This must be stopped…at all costs.

Roy | 8/18/2008, 6:10 pm EST

Awesome new song!!! It catches you from the very beginning…GNR is back!!!

Christine | 8/18/2008, 9:35 pm EST

No matter what anyone says, he is — at least in my opinion, the GREATEST.FRONTMAN.EVER.

Don ‘t let them break you Axl! Word up! (cheesy, I know)

Christine | 8/18/2008, 9:41 pm EST

Not since Elvis Presley has there been such an electrifying-ly performer (maybe Jim Morrison is another close second).

The world really hasn’t been quite the same since he kind of went away for while (I know he has toured in the least two years), and can we see why? We’ve got Miley Cyrus and The Jonas Brothers posing as rock n’ roll.

Unemployed Critic | 8/19/2008, 2:22 am EST

Someone tell Axl that just because you have a distinctive verse, bridge, and chorus…doesn’t equal a hit.

The formula is there, but it just doesn’t work. Buckethead’s sound, while technically proficient, isn’t catchy by the least bit, and is often very trying to listen to.

The sound of this song reminds me too much of the ‘99 flop “Oh My God,” as its well structured, but much too harsh in sound. Disappointing, because I’m a big fan of a few of the other leaks…

Slash | 8/19/2008, 9:08 am EST

I thought it wasn’t half bad, not as amazing as Madagascar, but good.
The chorus can get alittle annoying, and the solo could be better, but I liked it for the most part.

Phil | 8/19/2008, 5:19 pm EST

“X” said it right. I can’t believe that I read through all this bullshit either….

CT | 8/20/2008, 1:39 pm EST

well, I can’t believe it’s not butter!

V | 8/20/2008, 1:41 pm EST

GNR isn’t back – they broke up a long time ago!

V | 8/20/2008, 1:52 pm EST

“here are some singers that use the band name when its really just the singer with a new line – up
Dave Mustaine – Megadeth
David Coverdale – Whitesnake
Lemmy – Motorhead
Ozzy Osbourne
Alice Cooper
Marcus Christopher – Miss Crazy
Wednesday 13″

Yep and they all suck out loud – they suck-ass even more without the original line-up.

Wazer | 8/20/2008, 10:53 pm EST

Hi, i have been reading these comments on here and i got to say, who is kurt cobain?

anonymous retard | 8/24/2008, 11:14 pm EST

The fact that are kids now-a-days who don’t know who kurt cobain is is a sad, sad, fact that proves we need someone like axl to come back and kick the shit out of pop culture!

MeadyDX | 8/25/2008, 9:46 am EST

buckethead was in guns n roses 2001 – 2004 he is well better than slash!!! bring back buckethead

jk | 8/27/2008, 6:14 pm EST

how can you say buckethead is better than slash? You clearly have no concept of what makes a good guitarist. Go back to school

fegz | 8/27/2008, 8:34 pm EST

guns n roses r back fuck slash !!!
this shit rocks “better” than anything velvet revolver have done !!!

please release the album now please please please !!!

Fesh | 8/30/2008, 3:30 am EST

Nirvana is everything but music… hey… come on guys … it’s not worthy of talking about a poor stoned who has blown his fucking mind…

If we were talking about musicians like dream theater, steve vai and ron thal at all .. it’d be ok , but … Kurt cobain???? nirvana????

is it a joke or what? he was not able to play nor sing properly…

what a shame hearing it from a human being…

starch anton | 8/30/2008, 3:36 am EST

“I remember when Cobain almost beat Axl down in ‘92 when Nirvana refused to tour with GNR.”

Haha, how exactly do you remember something that never happened?

Agus Argentina | 8/30/2008, 8:28 am EST

I loved the original band but… THIS SONG IS SO FUCKING GREAT. IT BLEW MY MIND! AXL’S VOICE IS JUST FUCKING AWESOME! I WOULD ONLY LIKE IT TO HAVE LESS BUCKETHEAD IN IT. BUT IT’S FUCKING GREAT!

josh rouse | 8/31/2008, 5:54 pm EST

axl rose sucks. thats why we are still waiting on him to release saints of los angeles. come on its ben 28 years since guns released the black album.

Dracula's Mommy | 9/1/2008, 11:35 pm EST

Josh Rouse, you do realize you’re retarded, right? 2008-28=1980. GnR were not around in 1980. AC/DC released “Back In Black” in 1980. Metallica, your intended target perhaps, released what is sometimes referred to as “The Black Album” in 1990.

And the name of the album Axl and his grandmother are waiting on is “Chinese Democracy”, not “Saints of Los Angeles”

You are right about Axl, but wrong about so much else.

knackered | 9/2/2008, 4:41 pm EST

cobain is dead juz leave it that way ,axl hurry the fock up

CAM | 9/4/2008, 7:19 pm EST

If Shackler’s was on the radio, I would be screaming at someone to “TURN THAT SH*T DOWN!”

Only those who drank the GnR kool-aid will like this song…or those that don’t know any better. And, by the way, there’s a freaking ELEPHANT noise in the song???

greg | 9/13/2008, 4:32 pm EST

really quickly

axl and gibby beat up cobain at the mtv music awards.

kurt could fight, don’t get me wrong, but a simple google search tells the story, he got his ass kicked for mocking axl on tv by saying “axxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxle” over and over.

sorry.

doesn’t mean anything as far as music is concerned.

KeVoRk|aN | 9/17/2008, 9:14 pm EST

Absolutely stunning!!! This is what the world needs right now! This is one song off of a well thought out complete album. When is the last time a band really did that? This is the answer to our prayers. Rock is back!

The Jeffer | 9/21/2008, 2:11 pm EST

Yet another failure in the pathetic career of “Guns N’ Roses”, this song was a major disappointment in my book. The intro and verses are nothing like the GNR of old, despite how much Axl is trying to make us seem like nothing has changed. The whole “deep voice” thing he tries to pull off has absolutely no value to it. And as for the chorus, which is the only thing that even vaguely resembles a GNR song because of Axl’s wail, it just doesn’t live up to any of the hype that that sorry state of a man has tried to put together for the better part of the past decade. Face it Axl, you are nothing without Slash, Duff, Izzy, and Matt, so the sooner you actually decide to man up and admit you’re a major douche, the sooner the REAL Guns N’ Roses can get back to making kick-ass records.

Simone | 9/27/2008, 5:08 pm EST

Shackler’s Revenge doesn’t suck. It’s not something you can really get into like old gnr, BUT, when I heard it I was impressed. It’s better than shit like “Better” lol

Bruno | 9/29/2008, 3:47 am EST

Argentina es de GUNS N ROSES

Anonymous | 10/20/2008, 2:57 am EST

this is the best song in past 15 years. axl rose is the best singer on the world!

SLASHFUCKER | 10/20/2008, 2:57 am EST

this is the best song in past 15 years. axl rose is the best singer on the world!

hjmk dwvf | 10/21/2008, 9:57 am EST

ctwp umiaoy itbp nepcdoxbl avgn squcndh qyifun

Peter | 10/27/2008, 2:43 am EST

Buckethead has more emotion in his music over slash,there both extreamly great, but slash is just a little bit to overrated, i think shacklers revenge is crap, that effect in axels voice ruined it, but buckethead brought some life to it

zeta | 10/27/2008, 3:27 pm EST

VUELTA DE PAGINA EN EL ROCK!
LO NUEVO DE GUNS N ROSES ES FABULOSO! INCREIBLE!
“DEMOCRACIA CHINA”….EPICO!

zeta | 10/27/2008, 3:27 pm EST

VUELTA DE PAGINA EN EL ROCK!
LO NUEVO DE GUNS N ROSES ES FABULOSO! INCREIBLE!
“DEMOCRACIA CHINA”….EPICO!

elias | 10/27/2008, 3:41 pm EST

solo se que soy fanatico de los guns y axl solo es mas guns que todo velvet revolver

sof | 11/12/2008, 6:39 pm EST

gnr rocks axl rocks cobain sucks ass good he’s dead rock on gnr

MetallicA | 11/13/2008, 2:24 pm EST

This is not the real guns that everyone wants,i probably think that the coming album will be a piece of shit!!!Without slash,there is no guns n roses!!!That my fucking point of view.Fuck all the members of guns!!!Really feel pity for axl!!!

XFAN | 11/22/2008, 3:28 pm EST

I just listened to the Chinese Democracy album!!! Pathetic that this band can be called GNR!! Think I’ll call this the Gay New Roses!! Bring back SLash!!! Beg for some of that attitude, that “fuck you bring me a handle of Jack”!! This new shit makes we want to cuddle my chick!! Old school GNR makes me want to fuck stripping groupie whores!!!

Chris | 11/26/2008, 11:32 am EST

People who diss C.D. and whine about Slash need to get over it. Slash Duff and Matt have been gone for 15 years. Slash left because Axl was trying to go in a different direction with the music so yeah its not gonna sound like old GN’R. If you weren’t comparing it to old Guns or expecting it to sound like old Guns you would probably appreciate it a lot more. All I’m saying is its a different band (aside from Axl), and Axl tried to move in a different direction so people complaining that it doesn’t sound like old GN’R are just retarded. I love Chinese Democracy and Old Guns so whatever.

ToRo | 11/27/2008, 12:23 pm EST

Ps aun no escucho el disco nuevo de los “nuevos guns” (mañana lo voy a comprar) digo xk los meros fans asi como yo los tenemos hasta n vinil, bueno no vine aki a presumirle a todos solo le keria decir k el ultimo disco d guns fueron los illusion xk el espagetti fue solo un disco d covers aunk tal vez muchos d los k aki escribieron no sabian xk d seguro estan bien ñetas. este disco le espere con años d anciedad k ya van varios muchos 13 para ser exacto sea komo sea komo este lo voy areciar xk es gn’r pero bueno este año m ieve varias sorpresas un disco k rescata un poco a MetallicA y AC-DC super discaso.
m despido d todos los seudo fans d guns n’ roses a x cierto alguien tiene el disco d Rumbo Tapes d guns xk yo si haa lo olvidaba yo si soy fan

nikita | 12/26/2008, 3:33 pm EST

How can you compair Axl and Cobain?! Will you compair Bach and Thin Lizzy? Stupid. Some likes depression, intellegent music (even punk can be intellegent). Some like true rock-n-roll, drive and epic songs like Novemver Rain. You can’s say that “cobain” sucks, ‘couse you lie. Cobain doesn’t suck, you just don’t like such music. Thats all!! Dont make fools of yourself!

I_M_Ken | 4/29/2009, 9:32 am EST

Honestly i feel that this is a solid album. Its better than i;d ever expected. Alot of people are right, this is a new band (with the same old name) thats gone a different direction musically, which is awesome in my opinion. Great album.

... | 4/29/2009, 2:15 pm EST

Messiest page I ever seen. Seriously, why bring up such an old topic that is supposedly dead YEARS ago? I wasn’t there when G’N'R became popular (wasn’t born yet), but really. Keep historical facts for your information and stop bitching about it. It happened, get over it; complaining doesn’t change what’s past. You’d think they delete this thread with all the flaming by a bunch of whiny babies who probably have gotten out of college by now (sad…). If you formed a rock band of your own, would you like it when a bunch of random dumbasses criticize your music in such a bitchy manner? My God, you have no respect for rock n’ roll. Just enjoy what you have and move on.

I listened to Guns N’ Roses just recently (I’m still not even in college yet) and I liked the band. I’m not playing favorites or anything but I think “Chinese Democracy” would be more successful if everyone was more open-minded to new ideas instead of lingering on the same type of thing for several years. I would give this album 4/5 stars; has a bit of the classical feeling from the old songs but designed to sound more “modern”.

Honestly, I don’t care what was argued here. Drop the topic. If you don’t have anything nice to say, you might as well don’t say it at all. Constructive criticism is fine, but not to the point where it becomes “ZOMG!!! THIS **** SUX ASS!!!!” Stop making asses of yourself and find something else to listen to.

Adieu.

elijah v | 5/15/2009, 10:28 am EST

shacklers revenge is the best new song of 08 and 09 and everybody knows that axl could kick the living fuck out of kurt cobain and kurt cobain was a drug addict thats y kurt cobain killed himself
and the reson gnr broke up is because of axl’s walking off the stage but guns n rose will get back to gether then they will be way better but nothing will be better than appitite. but i will make appitite#2

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