Pete Townshend Muses on Rock Honors, Smashing Computers, Eddie Vedder in E-Mail to Rolling Stone

7/23/08, 12:04 pm EST

After taping VH1 Honors: The Who, Pete Townshend e-mailed Rolling Stone’s Jenny Eliscu with a post-mortem discussing his own performance, his desire to smash plastic Rock Band instruments and the advice he gave Eddie Vedder a few years ago. Here’s the message:

Despite my smiley face, I was on guard on the red carpet and didn’t say much although the New York Times guy caught me off guard with the best question of my life, delivered almost dead-pan: “WHY DON’T YOU JUST DO WHAT ROGER WANTS?” For a split second I tried to answer.

The show felt clunky to me because I find it hard to mix work and pleasure, and so much of it was about mixing with people and accepting their good wishes. I tend to shut myself away before and after shows, it’s about making the best of the very little I have left to give the audience. Trying to increase the force of the water by closing down the valve on the hose, so to speak. I thought Roger sounded good. He’s been keeping himself active, doing small shows, and it showed.

It always takes me 20 minutes or so to loosen up. This was our first show for a year or so, so I was rusty on guitar. I felt like I was holding a spade (shovel). I dreamed last night of trying to play the show with a guitar actually covered in soil. I have been playing piano since last July, and only acoustic guitar (on the sofa while watching episodes of Medium or Boston Legal as my way of remembering America). Electric guitar and arm-swinging is not what I do between dog-walks and arthritis.

You probably know that VH1 Rock Honors was originally floated as an idea to help sell Viacom’s Rock Band. My son and his buddies did play with Rock Band around Christmas, until I lent it to the much younger son of Rachel’s drummer. I never tried it. I thought I’d probably end up smashing it.

I did have an idea for a stunt — if Viacom is VH1, and they own Rock Band, what about giving me a plastic guitar to smash on the show? Even better, what about giving me five hundred thousand plastic guitars to smash on the show? Maybe I could drive over them in a Monster Truck? I kept it to myself, as I knew they’d be happy to give me one, but not half a million. Then I thought, hey, I don’t want to smash plastic guitars, I want to smash the X-Box computers, the DVD drives, the expensive bit made of wire and metal. And you know, I really do. When I get home I’m going to do it. Who hasn’t smashed a computer at some point in their life? It’s where the Pete Townshend smashing thing becomes normal life, and not “…how could he?” We’ve all done it, bashed our plastic keyboard in frustration and out popped the letter “k.” $1,000 later, new computer, all is well, the old one we try to pass off on some project for poor people or some guy we know who can “fix anything.” Throw it in the fucking Hudson. No one wants it except the Stasi. It was built in 2007. This is Jetsons’ time we live in. Imagine, soon it will be 2011. That is most definitely going to be a Jetsons’ year. Even oil will be plastic in 2011 and marketed by Viacom. And available only in grey, pink or orange.

In the end, I enjoyed it. I only heard Pearl Jam from my trailer-dressing room, and it sounded amazing. Eddie seems to be very shiny these days. To think he nearly quit in 1993 and went back to some surfing beach. Lucky he came to speak to Uncle Pete. I told him — submit.

It’s not appropriate for me to come up with ideas about who I want to sing my songs, I have enough trouble serving Roger. I was grateful to have three great bands like Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam and Flaming Lips on the show. Sweet as it all is, Adam Sandler and Jack Black parodying the Who is as interesting to me as a plastic guitar you can’t really smash. Even so, their affection for me and the Who is tangible, and that’s a relief. Parody with affection is a form of love and regard, unlike satire. I feel lucky in that respect.

I think when I said on a blog that the Who was a glorified Who cover band I was trying to make people laugh. Much as I am now. Some people take me too literally. Just think how small I will feel when Arianna Huffington calls me a dope for my prediction that Viacom oil will only be available in three colours. Seriously, the covers thing happens in a good way I think when the audience truly take total possession of a part of your work. Those songs that seem to belong entirely to them, and not at any level at all to me or Roger any more, are the ones that feel best to play. They are the most famous — “Baba O’Riley,” (made more famous by a million YouTube viewings of Blue Man Group playing drums covered in paint than any other use); the CSI songs; “The Seeker” used in American Beauty (a naked girl covered in rose petals is hard to shake off). So, those particular songs do not feel like we are covering them, it feels like we are miming to a backing track that is the audience itself. That must be the apotheosis of my craft. Function flying high over form and my earliest artistic endeavour and pretensions.

How to keep the legacy going? Check the same Website blog. I’m quite obviously lost.

I’m hoping Ricky Gervais will hire me for his future comedy brainstorming sessions. He’d better. I’m losing the gift of irony.

Pete

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Comments

paulj | 8/2/2008, 10:12 am EST

It is all Perception.I felt the show was blissful.All the bands played well,and they were honest in their love of the Who.In this world of corporate dominance,that was nice.
Pete,play the songs and use the money to better the world. Nothing is wrong with that.

Anonymous | 8/1/2008, 8:49 am EST

Pete,

Keep it up mate you guys still rock. I saw you in swansea not so long ago and it was still there! I think the guitar looks better in your hand now than ever, good effort

Philly Ed | 7/31/2008, 9:48 pm EST

I’m a huge fan and have been for many years but I agree $200 a tix is just greed. All the gray hairs in the front row who can afford the tix and the youth relegated to the bleeders… who will keep their music alive for the next 40 years?

Patty | 7/31/2008, 11:05 am EST

I’m so glad there is still a legitimate reason to be late for work. The WHO had me rockin’ my whole graveyard shift. Thanks guys!!!

Cover Band | 7/30/2008, 1:28 pm EST

Pete, it’s really time to hang it up. You were great, but you’re right: you’re just a cover band now. And at $200 a pop not really worth the effort anymore.

Dana | 7/30/2008, 9:52 am EST

We do not have to have another concept album, I would be quite happy with an album of various Happy Jack type songs.
Even without John and keith you are still a great band, give the other members more inout into the songs, dont agonise over everything and it will come…..keep rocking guys

Sparty | 7/29/2008, 7:32 pm EST

Nice to see Pete reference Gervais, the most bloody funny person on the planet. I like when genious unites. I’d love to see Rick interview Pete, like he did with Sanders, David, etc.
Oh, by the way Pete? Sandler and Black were not “paroding” you and the band. It was heart-felt tribute..bowing down in the way that they do. I loved Sandler’s bit.

Rob in Fullerton | 7/29/2008, 4:43 pm EST

Nothing is so entertaining as Pete being Pete. A true genius in all senses of the word, an articulate speaker, and at times, a very funny guy. As for the VH-1 show…I surprisingly enjoyed the whole show. I had intended to just fast forward straight to The Who, but the other bands did good jobs. That said, The Who (even with half of them gone) blew them off the stage. What else is new?

Mike | 7/29/2008, 12:20 pm EST

The who where now, then, and all- ways will be a bloody machine, that just cannot switch off,thank god for rock and roll……

xkeots | 7/28/2008, 10:53 am EST

Pete,

I am glad that time has not changed your sardonic sense of life and being.

atomicelroy | 7/27/2008, 10:12 pm EST

P.T.’s right. it’s all turned to comedia del arte. The performers just go on stage and play the stock bits. The audience knows the shows as well as the performer. Nothing new. No excitement . The entire events are phony and staged. Theatre, not Rock and Roll. Too bad, at one time this meant something.

Tkozlow | 7/27/2008, 12:35 am EST

All I know is that as I age I can still look up to the most influential rock band (in my opinion) in history and 38 yeras later as a fan I see tem still making music and my world is a better place. Thank you Pete and Roger, keep going as long as you wish. See you in Connecticut this October.

Billvox | 7/27/2008, 12:23 am EST

I’d kind of like to see Pete go back to the solo stuff he was doing 10 or so years ago. Big epic concept albums, radio plays, grown up stuff. He is right when he says the Who2 is a cover band kidding or not. Roger must have enough money by now no? I never thought I’d ever say this but,here goes. Pete forget the Who2. Write some “Pete Solo” music and put it out. Tour the smaller venue circuit where the beer drinking, classic rock sluggos can’t find you. The rest of us, your true admirers, will be politely listening to whatever you want to play for us.

aragorn63 | 7/26/2008, 7:24 pm EST

Its music. It will live on longer than any of us lucky enough to have seen The Who live. Don’t sweat it Pete. No matter what happens today or tomorrow the legacy of performance stands beyond times limitations. Maybe we are all dinosaurs and will just be oil for a new generation , but it happened none the less.

Riosergio | 7/25/2008, 5:45 pm EST

Sorry, but this made me emotional. I cannot leave without sayin’ something about the others guys in the band. How can I forget John, the best rock&roll bass player in the planet? And Keith Moon, the craziest, the funniest of them all? a little guy & a giant behind the drums. Roger is still around, thanks God, with all his showmanship, presence and voice. Keep them coming, guys…No retirement, no surrender. Rock on forever!!!!

Riosergio | 7/25/2008, 5:14 pm EST

Pete was the musician, on my days (60ies, 70ties) that best understood the pop culture. Tommy’s lack of hope in everything that the baby-boomers, the dropout generation, had as holy and untouchable was, in these days, a voice claiming alone in the desert. Nobody heard when he showed our mistakes on drugs, booze and hedonism. He always will be, for me, the biggest critic of his own generation. And his work is gonna stay. The songs and lyrics, despite all bitterness, bring us the best of a time that is gone, with no compromises. Well, he said he submitted…So what? It was the right thing to do, then and now. He advised Vedder well. Dylan once said, “There must be someway out of here”. But he was wrong. There isn’t. And Pete knew it, back then. “Talkin’ ‘ bout (and with) my generation”…

Stone | 7/24/2008, 4:31 pm EST

Pete is Pete…does anyone love talking more than him? If in the mood, Pete could talk for 120 min straight w/out interruption, and we’d all listen.

Maybe he should take his own advice and “submit.” It’s worked for Ed & Co.

tjinsa | 7/24/2008, 3:37 pm EST

i always enjoy Pete’s musings. He has a way of cutting through the bullshit with just enough wry humor and sarcasm. The hell with new music Pete, when’s the autobiography coming out!

auramac | 7/24/2008, 2:36 am EST

It’s OK to have mixed emotions. On one hand, you appreciate the power of the older songs and the love and identification people have for them. On the other, the restless artist is frustrated and wants to detach in order to move forward. He feels guilty for both. Dylan’s been going through this from the beginning. He’s terrified of standing still. And he knows he can never go back either. Keep the music coming, Pete- old and new. The most moving song of the night was you and Roger and that last song, a new one.

Pete | 7/23/2008, 10:31 pm EST

I have to admit: Pete is absolutely a musical genius. I love(most) Who lp’s, I actually like their latest cd even! But here’s the thing: Pete’s an asshole.

the jam | 7/23/2008, 7:57 pm EST

Pearl Jam put on the best show that night!!!!!!!

mygeneration | 7/23/2008, 7:47 pm EST

PETE YOU ARE A GOD
i never understood the term ‘ageless’ until i watched you perform. so what if your hair has grayed. so what if you have ;arthritis.’ you rocked out like it was 1975. you (and roger) are rock gods who stand the test of time. if only all bands that are around now had the utter raw talent and presence you both have - the world would be more peaceful and way more groovy

ROCK ON ~~~~~~

the jam | 7/23/2008, 7:36 pm EST

Pearl Jam’s covers that night were the best. Eddie Vedder lives and breathes those songs. Vedder and Pearl Jam played with passion and skill that the other bands couldn’t match. Although, i will say Foo Fighters and Flaming Lips were entertaining. Incubus however sucked. The only good song they ever put out was pardon me and that was 9 years ago. Plus they suck live. ANyway, back to Pearl Jam-best performance of the night (next to the Who’s closing set playing their own tunes. It’s always best to hear the original versions by the original artists but Vedder never ceases to amaze me in his skill and passion. Pearl Jam rock and in seven years they will be eligible for the rock and roll hall of fame induction. Plus they band is working on a new album which will come out in 2009. Rock on Pearl Jam!!!!

artificialred | 7/23/2008, 4:41 pm EST

Foo Fighters and Pearl Jam were the best performances of the night, INCLUDING The Who. Led Zeppelin still rulz!!!!!

RyanChristopher11 | 7/23/2008, 4:17 pm EST

Hey Pete, I hate to say it, but ‘been there done that’ when it comes to smashing Rock Band guitars…

I of course learned everything I know from you, jimi, and kurt. Rock Honors was great though…congrats!

Eh... | 7/23/2008, 4:08 pm EST

Incubus’ “performances” was pitiful…. (I wasn’t really expecting much from them.) No need to give Incubus any ‘credit’…

(I was also let down by Foo Fighters. Unlike Incubus, I actually expected Foo Fighters to do well.. I was wrong.)

At least Flaming Lips, and Pearl Jam sounded excellent.

PeteForgets | 7/23/2008, 3:25 pm EST

What is up with Pete forgetting to give Incubus a shout out, because they also performed at their tribute?

Pendulous | 7/23/2008, 3:21 pm EST

Good to know he knew that Incubus played some of his songs as well.

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