Madonna, Mellencamp, Cohen Honored at Emotional Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction

3/11/08, 7:55 am EST

As Iggy Pop and the Stooges pounded through punked-up reinventions of inductee Madonna’s “Burning Up” and “Ray of Light” Monday night at the 23rd annual Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, it was only the most extreme example of what the show did all night long: find unexpected common ground between disparate genres and eras of music. The broad range of newly inducted artists included John Mellencamp, the Ventures, Leonard Cohen and the Dave Clark Five, the last of whom inspired the evening’s most impassioned speech: fan Tom Hanks vividly described hearing the British Invasion band’s hits coming out of a “speaker the size of a soda can” as a kid. “Joy is eternal,” Hanks said. “Joy was in the music of the Dave Clark Five. Their records still jump out of any speaker.”

(Click here for photos from last night’s ceremony.)

Justin Timberlake inducted Madonna with a light-hearted, flirtatious speech. “The world is full of Madonna wannabes. I might have even dated a couple. But there truly is only one Madonna,” he said, adding, “Though I’m pretty sure Little Richard would disagree, the truth is that nobody has ever gotten into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame while still looking this damn fine.” He also told a story about Madonna giving him a B-12 shot: “That’s what Madonna was and will continue to be for all of us: A shot in the ass when we need it most,” Timberlake said.

Madonna seemed moved by the occasion, appearing close to tears at a couple points as she gave a lengthy, heartfelt talk. She offered a brief history of her career, describing her first stabs at music: playing drums along with Elvis Costello records, and strumming four chords on a guitar. She thanked an old ballet teacher “who told me I was special,” and talked about songwriting in mystical terms: “Luckily, I have been miraculously and mysteriously possessed by some kind of magic.” And she introduced Iggy Pop as a kindred spirit, “another ass-kicker from Michigan.”

In his affectionate induction speech for Mellencamp, Billy Joel celebrated him as an American rebel at a time when the nation needs one. “This country has been hijacked,” Joel said. “People need to hear a voice like yours to echo the discontent in the heartland … Someone’s got to tell ‘em don’t take any shit, and John, you do that very well.”

Mellencamp traced his fighting spirit to his youth, beginning with surviving spinal bifida as an infant. “I’m lucky to be standing here for any number of reasons,” said Mellencamp, who choked up as he thanked his mom and dad, who both attended the ceremony. Before kicking into a fierce version of “Authority Song” (backed by a band that included his teenage son, Speck, on guitar), which he turned into an audience sing-along, Mellencamp said, “I still feel the same way today as I did when I wrote it twenty-five years ago.”

Lou Reed inducted Leonard Cohen, reading selections from his lyrics. “We are so lucky to be alive at the same time Leonard Cohen is,” he said. Of all the honorees, Cohen seemed most surprised to be there. “This is a very unlikely occasion for me. It is not a distinction that I coveted or even dared dream about,” he said, adding a joke that played off a famous quote about Bruce Springsteen: “So I’m reminded of the prophetic statement of Jon Landau in the early Seventies: I have seen the future of rock and roll and it is not Leonard Cohen.”

As John Fogerty inducted instrumental rockers the Ventures, he recalled that he and his Creedence bandmates spent time “picking apart these Ventures songs to see how they work and getting a great education along the way.” The Ventures then played note-perfect, reverb-swamped versions of two of their biggest hits, “Walk Don’t Run” and “Hawaii Five-O.” Early in the show, Ben Harper inducted the late blues harpist Little Walter, and Jerry Butler of the Impressions inducted the Philly soul production team of Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff.

The evening ended with Mellencamp, John Fogerty, Joan Jett and Billy Joel jamming on an explosive, garage-y version of the Dave Clark Five’s “Glad All Over” that recalled the all-star jams of the Hall of Fame’s early years. The Dave Clark Five’s singer, Mike Smith, died of pneumonia just two weeks before the ceremony. But drummer and bandleader Clark said that he was grateful that Smith was aware of the honor. “Mike tried desperately to be here with us tonight,” he said. “But at least he knew he was a hall of famer.”

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Comments

Orgo | 3/14/2008, 5:14 pm EST

I can see the Detroit connection as to why The Stooges played those Madonna songs but if I were in The Stooges and had any sense,I wouldn’t've done such a thing since The Stooges are STILL waitin’ to be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame!

k.drone(nemesis)Michael | 3/14/2008, 3:32 pm EST

Was the intro speech Justin Timberlake gave pre-written by a publicist?
And does he realize that he imitated Prince-Elton John and Michael Jackson and claims himself not a wanna-be?He could just claim as McDonna does that he was nveer those people before-which will give him the power to do anything else he wants.
Pure genius, absolutely an inspiration to everyone who loves kareoke and Korean t.v-
His production team doesn’t fish don’t phish round the intranet hooking new idear’s fer rechords AND SUPPERstarz dew they?

the truth is bought- | 3/14/2008, 2:57 pm EST

When journalists write they sell their material, and whether its to the Whitehouse or Madonna’s agent/manager if its a real dirty and true-that story is often sold to its defendant for a large sum.
When people are really celebrities/”stars” they do not need to send propoganda promo releases in their favor to sway public opinion.
Madonna’s camp is guilty.
If Miss thing were not a wanna-be herself then she could never relate to her worshipers-she is better in disguise than them. No person has what she has because no else feels the need or is empty enough in the creative spirit to legally plagurize and imitate orginal artists in order to receive adoration. First example, and the only one used(here)is “Vogue” which is the knock off to Malcolm McLaren’s “Deep In Vogue” written/visualized few years prior.
Rock N Roll is alive; corporate commerical media control freaks in search of themselves and power did not ruin anything. Rock is been on sabatical, its time is come..Live Nation can try to corner every market and venue in America all they want-without music-they have no sales..street fairs in the projects and ghetto rock festivals with real rockers taking over the inner corridors and streets of the U.S. first is where its at. Nothing will shock the Nation of Islam and the Latin Kings more than hard rock and touring musicians rolling neighborhoods with sound and princesses.Not too many white folk have stepped out of the norm-its time to inspire and draw from where soul came from.

rebebeck | 3/13/2008, 6:38 pm EST

yes i agree iggy is so oldddddddddddddddddddd

rebebeck | 3/13/2008, 6:33 pm EST

yes spook i agree iggy is so fuuu old

Millie Vanillie | 3/13/2008, 10:55 am EST

This post is directed to CLEVELAND,OHIO-Rock Capital of the World.You imbecile did you not detect the Sarcasm in my previuos posting??Do you know what the word means?The Artists listed wrote the book on ROCK(DUH!)This was a fun debate,but useless.Really the point is that rock music contains so many sub genres that Johnny Cash belongs there( his 50’s rockabilly-Country Rock)Muddy Waters belongs(Blues Rock etc..)Madonna is not rock music nor does she really fit in any way as an influence.For those that love her music that’s cool-but there should be a Pop/Dance music Hall of Fame,a Hip Hop Hall of Fame,an R&B Hall of Fame etc.It really doesn’t matter who is in the Hall because they seem to let anyone and everyone in anyhow.Dusty Springfield?? But music is art and musical art is in the ear of the listener and therefore subjective.C’est la Vie

PaulyR | 3/13/2008, 9:23 am EST

Whoa… a ton of posts. I’m not going to get into the fray. I would guess the RS writer was _actually there_. The ceremony, as broadcast on television, was just short of a train wreck: JT and Lou’s speeches… Paul Schaffer with Mark Goodman… the wait before the last song, the filthy Waldorf-Astoria, just painful. Dear VH1: go back to taping it & airing it a week later.

Me | 3/12/2008, 10:25 pm EST

To the brainwashed person calling himself Judy or Joey or whatever. The talentless twat Madonna can half-way dance and that and that is as far as her talent can take her. She sounds like a sick cow, cannot play anything but play with herself and gullible people like you. As far as writing, I’m sure that her children’s books would probably sound better in her songs than the crap that’s in her lip-synchin’ junk that is no where near rock and roll, more along the lines of bubblegum or disco.And as far as her music having “mean-ass” guitar….apparently you have never heard the likes of Ritchie Blackmore, Robin Trower and countless other deserving and talented musicians and rock and rollers who deserve to be in the Hall…..not someone who can only dance…..where the heck is Fred Astaire?

k.drone(michael) | 3/12/2008, 8:28 pm EST

Madonna and her management are aware of the anger vented towards this issue. they will blow it off, until it subsides and publically manuever a special moment to accomodate this situation(it is a joke to them, like most things they want to and need to control). No, No rocker would keep an award if they know it should be elsewhere.Is she an American Pie? I could detail a list of complete disasters in her career from the past 5 years, but those are swept away after success is acheived. Do you think Liz Rosenberg(manager) worked hard to get MDonna’s public image in good graces?
And Madonna if you are reading this why after I declined to submit my early recording to Maverick in 2001 was my close friend/producer flown to San Fran to spin at Nikki H’s birthday bash which you attended(2002)-then after moving to NYC in 2003 who sent Junior Vasquez into my then new studio? And Madonna I showed nothing but distaste not for you personally but the method of tactic to manipulation- that did not matter Felix Housecat took over my former recording studio while in your entourage. YOu have no boundries woman-don’t second guess why people think your not worthy. I was kind to share a few political plans with friends who I assume relayed then in your direction..you have yet to submit-
people don’t trust you..think your a sleaze at 50 still. The dj’s in your oh-so-cool side show are paid to play Madonna songs..-your music would never drop into the disc drive or slam down on a turntable without a fat check. Do not Madonna use a hint of my idea’s until I am paid a nice,sweet sum of cash money.If you want Mcmommy research the Judas Priest trial of subliminal audio hallucinations-its verdict, cause I have a real live documented case involving your Messiah iconography-”Like A Prayer” and your Sigmond Freud religious game self designed by Mrs. Richie to create the “Messiah” only one problem the real life scenario plays out like a Manson case.

New nomination process | 3/12/2008, 6:03 pm EST

I have the solution: the potential nominees to a pool of only artists who clearly fall somewhere into the Rock spectrum. A small panel of Rock overlords set the standards (I’m thinking one representative from each sub-genre, with someone like like OZZY presiding over the court. If an artists fits better in Country, Pop, Disco, Classical, or Rap/Hip-hop, etc., leave ‘em out. Blues was the main father of Rock, so we leave it in. OZZY gets veto power. Then punish the junta that currently picks the nominees by banishing them from the process forever, maybe even exiling them to an iceberg or secret prisons. The voters shall consist of actual Rock or Blues artists and the public. Normally I’d be worried about the public taste in anything, but if we limit what they’re allowed to vote on to just Rock artists, then they can’t go that far off track. One more rule: Poison is banned for life from induction and even visiting the hall. No override on that rule, not even for OZZY and the panel of Rock Overlords.

CEO has a point | 3/12/2008, 5:35 pm EST

There are a lot of other non-rock inductees already in the hall. So we should throw them all out as well, not just Madonna. Let them get their own hall, and them the RRHOF commit itself to Rock only. Or, change this one over to the Popular Music Hall of Fame and start an actual Rock Hall someplace else.

Not All Madonna Haters | 3/12/2008, 5:25 pm EST

I don’t think all those who question or denounce Madonna’s induction are all Madonna haters. I don’t hate Madonna or her music. Actually, I like quite a few of her songs. I think a lot of us just question what the Rock Hall should and shouldn’t include, if they’re going to call it the Rock Hall. Add into that the highly questionable selection process and worthy actual rock artists getting snubbed year after year. That’s the big one, worthy artists getting snubbed in a highly suspect nomination process that has iffy standards. It makes one question the integrity of the whole thing. It’s a virtual recipe for controversy. I know it isn’t important, but it would be nice if the hall had some credibility if we’re even going to have one. Otherwise there’s no point to its existence.

Anyway, don’t dismiss such arguments as simply people hating on Madonna. It’s simple-minded, childish and simply not true (for many people, anyway).

Pardon me | 3/12/2008, 5:18 pm EST

Where are the faces?

CEO in florida | 3/12/2008, 4:50 pm EST

well thank you sid you made my day i have not laughed so hard at someone for a long time.and to those who say madonna is not a rocker well i have been to the RRHOF 5 times and i recall the supremes are there,dusty springfield,the isley brothers and many others who are not “rockers”.so please quit being haters oh excuse me (those who object to madonnas being in the RRHOF)just live with it and cry about something else.and SID i accept being in the SHOF.thank you boohoo thank you

Bitter Gay Mark | 3/12/2008, 4:40 pm EST

Uh, BEACONMIKE. . . Madonna’s alleged racial slur was talking about her white/jewish manager. How is that a slur?

2all the dimwits | 3/12/2008, 4:34 pm EST

oh SID your so funny ha ha ha ha ha and get with it when someone says hater it means you dislike something duh what are ya 80!and she has no lack of talent do you even know who Madonna is?seems like you don’t so like stop whining damn grow up and shut up while your at it……oh and run on sentence hall of fame?———good one yeh bravo i think CEO would agree with that very smart intelligent remark.and have any of you been to the RRHOF if you have you would see many many others in the that is not ‘'’rock”’

Sid | 3/12/2008, 4:31 pm EST

A lot of people here have tried to justify Madonna’s inclusion simply by citing her commercial success and record sales.

Fine… then induct Celine Dion, Julio Iglesias, Garth Brooks, Abba, Frank Sinatra and Bing Crosby… all of whom have sold as many or more records than Madonna (and are no less Rock & Roll).

The fact remains... | 3/12/2008, 4:01 pm EST

Madonna’s music isn’t rock. It’s not even close. Induct her into the dance/pop music hall of fame instead. Let rock artists have their place. They’ve earned it.

Sid | 3/12/2008, 3:56 pm EST

Apparently, “CEO in florida” is trying to get into the Run-on Sentence Hall of Fame…

And please stop referring to anyone who objects to Madonna’s induction as “haters…”
You sound like a bunch of illiterate 13-year-olds. There is a big difference between legitimately recognizing someone’s lack of talent or appropriateness and “hating” that person.

CEO in florida | 3/12/2008, 3:08 pm EST

all of you Madonna haters need to go she does not rip off other peoples music if you know anything she writes her own,and to that vogue remark well vogue was written by her for the dance style called vogue based in newyork clubs,get your facts right quit crying that she made it damn you all cry more than a newborn baby so she made it in the RRHOF,good for her so have many other people but do you bitch about them hmmm no you don’t just about her your just a bunch of jealous hicks so stick to your beer and loser life and your petty little sad remarks get a life

Sid | 3/12/2008, 2:29 pm EST

So Madonna started out “playing drums along with Elvis Costello records, and strumming four chords on a guitar.”

Big deal… I played little league baseball when I was nine, but that doesn’t mean I belong in the baseball Hall of Fame.

Mrs.Christ Superstar | 3/12/2008, 2:05 pm EST

She sells records and other peoples art. She began ripping off Malcolm Mclaren(”Hey DJ”)in the onset of her career.”Vogue” also is a knock off of Malcolm McLaren’s “Deep In Vogue” which was written years prior to her new product release.
McLaren began the Sex Pistols,Bow Wow Wow-etc.). Look, she’s lying-delusional and definitley going to spend a big budget to cover up her past-the only way she can escape the truth is by removing everything from the public.Good Luck Madge- Crucifying yourself could have been a mistake.

Noooooosh | 3/12/2008, 1:58 pm EST

Ohmygod, you all need to switch to decaf. The outrage here is compelling me to roll my eyes until they seize.

Sid | 3/12/2008, 10:23 am EST

Shouldn’t the HoF exhaust the supply real ROCK acts before extending membership to dance-pop singers and rappers? Why in particular does the HoF ignore metal and progressive rock bands? Shouldn’t musicianship count for something?

Why start inducting people like Madonna when there are still glaring omissions among eligible acts such as Rush, Alice Cooper, Deep Purple, Judas Priest, MC5, King Crimson, Yes, the Stooges, Ted Nugent, Iron Maiden, the Runaways, Blue Cheer, ELP, ELO, the Damned, Foghat, Free, Bad Company, Mott the Hoople, Motorhead, et. al.

Oh, and inducting Madonna and not Joan Jett is like inducting Pat Boone instead of Little Richard…

joey | 3/12/2008, 10:01 am EST

to the user (((ME))) calling Madonna a talent less twat is not only false and rude it is just plain stupid it shows how smart your inbred hick 3rd grade educated mind is.i mean come on she has lasted how long?and how many albums does she have she sells out all her concerts looks and moves amazing does not I repeat does not lipsync her songs play a mean ass guitar and if you or anyone else cant see that well your not only blind but stupid hypocrites ,her songs,movies,books,are all amazing my kids love her she is tough and does what she wants,your jealous and envious that someone like you didn’t make it big so you need to criticize those who made it,so shut up go back to your banjos and check out your family members for dates and the world will be a much better place without you

Anonymous | 3/12/2008, 8:09 am EST

Whoever said rush should be in there are wrong they should die, Stooges should be in there

RRHOF | 3/12/2008, 7:01 am EST

Damn….ok…I agree with madonna being in there. I am not a fan whatsoever but she had a big impact. Enough said. John Mellancamp…not a fan, but had a big impact. Enough said. The Dave Clark 5? The Venturers? What about Rush? What about KISS? Are they not in the hall because they are the ugliest guys to pick up instruments? Its a damn shame thats all I am going to say.

cristi | 3/12/2008, 2:50 am EST

It isn’t the first time an artist who hasn’t made rock n roll is inducted in the Hall of fame, so… why are you criticizing Madonna in this way? We all know how she influenced music and culture. She’s a legend. (Excuse my english but I’m italian)

eicain | 3/12/2008, 2:35 am EST

I thinj Madonna is the best female artist in history. She has launched new musical trends and she’s a big inspiration for a lot of artists. Madonna has to stay in the Hall of fame.

Sid | 3/12/2008, 12:43 am EST

Hmmm… Madonna is in the Hall of Fame, but not Deep Purple.

Can anyone really make the argument that “Papa Don’t Preach” is a greater contribution to Rock Music than “Smoke on the Water?”

Iggy hates shirts! | 3/12/2008, 12:24 am EST

Rush definitely belongs in the hall. They have accomplished a lot (over 30 million records sold, big, well-attended concert tours, influenced a lot of other famous bands, have about 18 gold records and about 10 platinum records). Not to mention all the charity work they have done. But, many people are concerned about the hall’s induction standards, and it’s name. Some less-deserving artists have already been inducted, and some who have been inducted aren’t Rock artists. So maybe it should be the “Popular Music Hall of Fame”, not the “Rock and Roll Hall of Fame”. Even then, Rush and at least a dozen other Rock acts (Yes, Genesis, Kiss, to name just a few) would still deserve the recognition. However, I’m still concerned that their standards for induction are a bit illogical, flimsy and unfair, given some pretty bad snubs. Maybe we need an actual Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with more logical induction standards, and to get past the thing about non-Rock acts being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as they have now. In a better world, we’d have an actual Rock hall, to avoid all this controversy. And then maybe the deserving Rock artists (such as those I mentioned above) wouldn’t get snubbed for so long. These bands aren’t critics’ and RS favorites, so when they’re letting artists from all other genres in there, it makes you wonder if these actual Rock bands will ever get inducted into the place that calls itself the “Rock and Roll” Hall of Fame. Because of the goofy, illogical induction standards they have, plus the non-Rock artists in there, this place lacks sorely in credibility. It’s a joke of an institution, but it sure isn’t funny, it’s just insulting.

madonna fan | 3/11/2008, 11:56 pm EST

“beaconmike”, you are WAY off base with your ridiculous comment! Only a racist bent on finding racist things in what people say would even REMOTELY consider what Madonna said a racial slur. Oh, and learn how to spell before you post comments!

Come to think of it... | 3/11/2008, 11:36 pm EST

Why doesn’t somebody create an actual Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? One with only Rock artists in it? There are quite a few deserving Rock artists if you look back through the last 50 years or so. Certainly they’ve accomplished enough to deserve their own hall of fame. That way, the pop music fans can have their hall and the Rock fans can have theirs as well. Country has its own hall, so why doesn’t Rock have its own hall?

Rock Hall? | 3/11/2008, 11:22 pm EST

This hall of fame isn’t just for rock music. The powers that be have made that painfully clear. If was a real Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Madonna and JT would not be allowed through the doors without buying a ticket - to see the exhibits. Madonna’s very talented and popular, and she deserves recognition for it, but her music just isn’t Rock and Roll. They should just change the name of the hall to something more general, like the Popular Music Hall of Fame. Sorry to say, the Rock-only hall that Rock fans want to see doesn’t exist.

Me | 3/11/2008, 11:13 pm EST

This lip-synchin’, wannabe-somebody, talentless-twat deserves to be in the Hall, just as the lip-synchin’ Milli-Vanilli’s, the Britney’s gone bonkers Spears and others like them need to be in it. And there are others in the hall, who probably should not be as well.
After all, it is supposed to be the rock and roll hall of fame, not the “pop”, or “lip-synch” hall of fame. The only rock with her (that is if she didn’t smoke it) is that she’s dumber and as talented as a rock.

Hall of Shame | 3/11/2008, 11:10 pm EST

We shouldn’t be petitioning for Rush, KISS, or any other true Rock act to be inducted into this turd. It would be an insult to the bands. This current poser hall ignores deserving Rock artists while inducting non-Rock artists. It has no credibility because the voters aren’t consistent in their nomination standards. They should really change the name to the Popular Music Hall of Fame. If someone ever establishes an actual Rock and Roll Hall of Fame - one that sticks to artists that comfortably fit in that genre’s description. let me know. Then we can have bands such as Kiss and Rush along with other rock acts the current hall has, such as Zeppelin and the Beatles, etc. But let’s not dilute the good names of any more worthy Rock artists by inducting them into a phony Rock Hall.

Don't worry about it | 3/11/2008, 10:56 pm EST

Don’t worry about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, at least not yet, because it doesn’t exist yet. What we have now is the Record Industry and Critic-Approved Contemporary Popular Music Hall of Fame. It isn’t about Rock music per se, otherwise non-rock acts wouldn’t be there. I’m waiting for someone to establish the real Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, where only artists who have something to do with Rock are inducted. This one isn’t it. It has some well-deserving rock acts in it already, but it’s ignoring some others who are truly deserving and inducting pop/disco acts instead. I, for one, will welcome the real Rock Hall as soon as it exists. Can’t we have a Rock-only hall? Country and Gospel have each have one.

phoneguy | 3/11/2008, 10:42 pm EST

LIKE THEM OR NOT, KISS DESERVES A PLACE IN RRHOF. HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THEM, SOME OF THE PEOPLE ALREADY INDUCTED WOULD HAVE NEVER MADE IT AS FAR AS THEY DID. KISS HAS DONE MORE FOR ROCK THAN MOST PEOPLE REALIZE. KISS BEING EXCLUDED FROM THE RRHOF IS A SLAPIN THE FACE TO A BAND THAT HAS SPENT OVER THIRTY YEARS PAVING THE WAY FOR OTHER LESS TALENTED BANDS. GIVE KISS THE HONOR THEY DESERVE. INDUCT THEM NOW!!

Screw it! Induct Gerardo now! | 3/11/2008, 10:14 pm EST

Rico Suave!

I agree the Madonna-haters can go. I don’t think anyone should bash on Madonna or her music. And yes, DLR, she remains tremendously popular.

But her music isn’t rock, so it doesn’t belong in the only “Rock” hall of fame. She needs to be inducted into the pop music or disco/dance hall of fame, post haste!

Meanwhile, let rock be rock and have its own place to be celebrated. It’s big enough that it doesn’t need non-rock acts filling in. If you’re going to have a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, let’s limit the inductees to artists who primarily create and perform rock music (and its closely-related derivatives). They have a country music hall of fame, a gospel music hall of fame, so why not a pop/dance music hall of fame. Why should rock be a catch-all term for various genres of popular music? Let rock have a place of its own.

beaconmike | 3/11/2008, 9:58 pm EST

Just one more thing…………as everyone googles and gaggles over Madonna being in the Hall of Fame and her incredibly heartfelt speech that almost brought her to tears at times………….well her speech almost brought me to tears when she referred to her current manager, in his earlier days as he apprenticed with her then manager………..she referred to him as a “Steppin Fetchit” type of guy.

Now them, for those of you who don’t know the racial kind of slur that the words Steppin Fetchit can create………..just ask one of your local rappers what he thinks of those words……….they get close to similarity if you were to use the N word.

If you were to suggest that Obama is a Steppin Fetchit character, there would be WWIII initiated right then and there, and for Madonno to be so incredibly stupid as to use that characterization………..I just wonder what drugs she was on………..or she should finally fire her publicist who wrote those incredibly stupid words.

It would be like saying he is just an Uncle Tom or a Little Black Sambo.

Of all people………..you would think that Madonna would get it by now.

I bet the show goes back to simply being reported on and no more live shows.

The kind of insensitivities shown by Billy Joel and Madonna are just incredible.

Melissa | 3/11/2008, 9:52 pm EST

Let them hate Madonna, like she said they “make her work harder, and better!” I”m not a fan of hers but I do agree she belongs in the hall of fame for her huge influence on music (rock n roll).

beaconmike | 3/11/2008, 9:51 pm EST

Billy Joel’s comments about death were incredibly inappropriate.

To watch last night and hear Billy Joel joke so much about death……….as a ‘good career move’………and that ‘at least you aren’t fertilizer’…………when Billy Joel knew that the lead singer from the Dave Clark Five had just passed away a few days earlier and that the Dave Clark had to sit in the kitchen and endure his pathetically insensitive comments about death………..and even when Mike Smith’s family is grieving across the Bay for their loss of him, and Dennis Payton’s 2 sons are sitting in the audience (sax player for the DC5 who also passed a year earlier)………….to have to endure those comments that Billy Joel either knowingly wrote himself, or had to have known what was to be said before he went on…………well, Billy Joel, you ought to be ashamed………..dammed ashamed, and if I don’t mind saying so myself, unless you learn to cut back on your meal portions, you are going to be making a great career move sooner than later.

I have purchased my last Billy Joel piece of music.

Pattutie on Billy.

Willy G | 3/11/2008, 9:12 pm EST

I guess “David Lee Roth” isn’t aware that Madonna’s 2006 Confessions Tour was the most successful concert tour by a female artist in history. I would hardly consider that a “has been”. Again, simple minded haters who make comments with no base on fact. Sad, sad, sad.

DAVID LEE ROTH | 3/11/2008, 7:52 pm EST

Modanna couldn’t sellout a highschool gym! She’s a hasbeen

jupitergod76 | 3/11/2008, 7:41 pm EST

Frank Stallone should be in the hall.

steelers_eat_brownies | 3/11/2008, 7:32 pm EST

Sure, I can see Rick Astley in the hall of fame. What about Wayne Newton?

Darya | 3/11/2008, 7:17 pm EST

URDogSpot: I am sure there aren’t just Americans here posting ignorant comments, but hey, let’s generalize, shall we? :)

I think that Madonna does deserve her spot. She’s done a lot in giving female performers the opportunity to be taken seriously, whether you like it or not.

jupitergod76 | 3/11/2008, 7:03 pm EST

iam so sick of people crying that madonna got into the RRHOF she made it she rules get over it quit calling her a blonde bimbe skank we all know that is your mother your talking about.so shut the hell up

Not a Madonna hater, but... | 3/11/2008, 6:51 pm EST

Doesn’t rock music deserve a hall of fame of its own. I think as far as music genres go, it deserves its own hall of fame. Pop/dance music can also have its own hall of fame. I don’t have any problem with that. I think they should change the name of the place to the Popular Music Hall of Fame, if they’re not going to stick to actual Rock. As for Blues artists going in there, I can at least see the connection in that Rock came out of the Blues. But I don’t think anyone can seriously make an argument for Madonna’s music being a subgenre of Rock. It just clearly isn’t Rock. That’s why we have names for the different genres of music out there. Either have a Rock Hall that’s exclusively dedicated to Rock, or don’t call it that. Or don’t have one at all. It’s not a Madonna-hater thing. It’s that the standards for inducting the artists don’t make any sense at all. Some worthy, eligible Rock artists are not getting inducted while some artists who have nothing to do with Rock are in there. So it seems like a sham of an institution. Like I said, I think agreeable solutions would be to have an actual Rock Hall of Fame with only actual rock artists included, plus separate halls of fame for other music genres. Or, call it what it is… a Popular Music Hall of Fame. Even then I don’t think I’d support it because of many worthy acts who get snubbed annually. I wish the idiots in charge of this thing would adopt more objective standards.

gettagrip | 3/11/2008, 6:12 pm EST

What the hell does Cleveland know about rock? Why don’t they get back to their “Polka Town” roots and induct Frankie yankovic and His Yanks into their “rock and roll” hall of fame? I think RICK ASTLEY should be inducted. I have heard from a reputable source that Menudo, Vitamin C, Tiffany and Debbie Gibson are front runners for next year. Seriously, does who gets into the hall matter at all? The whole thing is a tourist trap.

revolution | 3/11/2008, 5:55 pm EST

“For those who argue that Madonna doesn’t deserve to be inducted, are you also suggesting that icons like Aretha Franklin, B.B. King and Ahmet Ertegun don’t deserve recognition either? ‘Rock & Roll’ refers to a spirit, not an actual sound.” - Marc

Well… Ahmet Ertegun is in the hall of fame not as a performer of rock music. And frankly BB King was inducted in 1987 at the height of his mainstream success and maybe wouldn’t have been even considered today.

Rock is a sound. It is music isn’t it? That’s why people are being honored.

If it was just about a ‘rock spirit’ as you suggest than why not induct James Dean, Dennis Hopper, Peter Fonda, Howard Stern, Chris Rock, Kevin Smith, etc., etc.?

Because they aren’t musicians. Specifically musicians who play rock music.

Also to say that she “built” her catalog says alot. She didn’t write most of it. She didn’t perform most of it either. She performed current styles but had a big enough mouth to cause pre-meditated controversy at every turn. Is that the rock spirit you are talking about?

Otherwise her music is the anti-rock. But if you can find spirit in her paint-by-numbers drum-machine reliant phoned in pop divaship, good for you I guess.

Sid | 3/11/2008, 5:30 pm EST

Iggy Pop and Madonna are photographed together at the R&R Hall of Fame… And Madonna is the one holding the trophy.

How very sad.

Nooooooosh | 3/11/2008, 4:50 pm EST

I just wanted to add my voice to those complaining about Madonna’s inclusion to the R&R Hall of Fame. There aren’t enough old white men who play guitars represented in it as is (as if?)

Marc | 3/11/2008, 4:44 pm EST

Since its inception, the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame has recognized legends in all genres of popular music. Not just “rock” or “hard rock” or “blues rock” but also R&B, pop, country, actual blues (rock’s precursor), etc.

For those who argue that Madonna doesn’t deserve to be inducted, are you also suggesting that icons like Aretha Franklin, B.B. King and Ahmet Ertegun don’t deserve recognition either? ‘Rock & Roll’ refers to a spirit, not an actual sound. You don’t have to actually like her music to recognize and respect her tremendous achievements. Anybody who can still sell out arenas and have her albums go platinum 25 years into their career must be doing something right. When all is said and done, it’s her MUSIC that has kept her popular all this time. Name me another artist who’s built a catalogue of instantly recognizable songs as big as hers over these last 25 years.

a retard from hell | 3/11/2008, 4:20 pm EST

i’m personally just wish esther would go back to england! if jamming your 50 year old tongue down britney spears’ mouth is Rock&Roll then by all means ROCK ON ESTHER! by the way pat benatar DOES ROCK!

revolution | 3/11/2008, 4:19 pm EST

Yes… the rock hall has inducted pop people before. And those people didn’t belong in either!

They also inducted fringe underground groups… some of which may not deserve it either.

Leave it to the fans to say who is in first! Leave it to the fans of rock music and not some secret society of millionaires to decide.

Rock music is for everyone.

It can be like a religion. And for those about to rock, I salute you.

So let’s give the fans a voice in this.

Because it means something REAL to the fans… the true fans of rock.

So before another Madonna… give us the freakin’ Cars! Or the Zombies! Or any number of rock bands that inspired countless other rock artists.

End your secret society TODAY!

Howee Carr | 3/11/2008, 4:16 pm EST

slightly off-topic, but…

Re. Gov. Spitzer- a shame… Silda Spitzer is a MILF!

ScreenwritingforHollywood | 3/11/2008, 4:12 pm EST

You people are hilarious.

It’s all about the money.

Peter North | 3/11/2008, 4:07 pm EST

Leonard Cohen is no Lynyrd Skynyrd.

Sam Miranda | 3/11/2008, 4:02 pm EST

Madonna is okay, she influenced a lot of people, bought her albaum, but what a heck,I still vote for purely rock & roll dudes!

Sam Miranda | 3/11/2008, 4:02 pm EST

Madonna is okay, she influenced a lot of people, bought her albaum, but what a heck,I still vote for purely rock & roll dudes!

Fuck this Hall | 3/11/2008, 4:02 pm EST

Madonna’s music isn’t rock, therefore doesn’t belong in the Rock Hall. Create a hall of fame for dance/pop/disco and induct her there. Let rock have its own place. There are quite a few worthy rock artists who are eligible for induction but have not yet been inducted. Yet they induct a music act that has nothing to do with rock. Pathetic.

Spook78 | 3/11/2008, 4:00 pm EST

Hey “boogie”…dazzle all of us some more with your sophisticated, intellectual banter. I have to say, I was impressed (all of this is sarcasm, “boogie”—just thought I would clarify that since you do seem to have some level of difficulty with your thought processes. ‘Nite, nite, now)

Brian | 3/11/2008, 3:55 pm EST

Until KISS is inducted into the R&RHOF it will be a sham.

Peter S. | 3/11/2008, 3:54 pm EST

I nominate The Replacements

dmunoz | 3/11/2008, 3:54 pm EST

Maddona has been and still is one of the greatest talents in the music industry of the las 25 years. She is very well deserved of her induction into the rock and roll hall of fame. Her music has always been full of positive messages in her lyrics, as opossed to other crap that unfortunately is poisoning our young people in society the way RAP is doing it. Let us embrace real talent people and let us not be jealous of someone as magnificent as the queen of our times in the music world in the name of MADONNA.

Sid | 3/11/2008, 3:52 pm EST

Joan Jett and Madonna are both at the induction ceremony… and MADONNA is the one being inducted?!?!?

Apparently, Rock and Roll doesn’t love Joan back…

Joan has more ROCK in her toenail clippings than Madonna has in her whole family tree.

ricky | 3/11/2008, 3:47 pm EST

people r just mad that Madonna does it better and can get in any Halls of Fame she wants, go cry to ur mom about it bitch. MADONNA is the queen of queens in music.

ricky | 3/11/2008, 3:47 pm EST

people r just mad that Madonna does it better and can get in any Halls of Fame she wants, go cry to ur mom about it bitch. MADONNA is the queen of queens in music.

FV | 3/11/2008, 3:41 pm EST

Pat Benatar rocks!
Please induct her into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, as well as Heart.

CLEVELAND, OHIO | 3/11/2008, 3:40 pm EST

TO MILLIEVANILLI, FROM THE ROCK N ROLL CAPITAL OF THE WORLD!!! YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!

FV | 3/11/2008, 3:38 pm EST

Pat Benatar rocks! Please induct her.

Willy G | 3/11/2008, 3:37 pm EST

To Yoda, I don’t care who your friend is, or what they claim to have seen, but Madonna absolutely does NOT lip sync at her shows! You people are really sad by thinking that the most influential woman in music history doesn’t deserve her induction. Just because she may not make the kind of music that you prefer doesn’t give you the right to slam her successes. Patheic haters! Get a life!

Keith | 3/11/2008, 3:36 pm EST

Sid,

Well Said

PATTI | 3/11/2008, 3:31 pm EST

IM FROM THE ROCK N ROLL CAPITAL, CLEVELAND AND WE WHO ARE THE REAL ROCKERS BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE ONLY REAL ROCK IN THE HALL. NOT POP. THEY CAN GET THEIR OWN HALL. COUNTRY HAS THEIR OWN HALL WHY NOT POP. IT’S NOT THAT I DISLIKE MADONNA OR HER MUSIC I JUST FEEL SHE IS NOT ROCK N ROLL. ALSO WE NEED THE INDUCTEE CEREMONIES HERE IN THE ROCK N ROLL CAPITAL NOT IN NEW YORK. WE IN CLEVELAND HAVE ALWAYS SAID THIS. BUT EVERY YEAR THEY KEEP HAVING THEM IN NY!! NEW YORK COULD HAVE THE POP HOF!! THAT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THEM OR LA!! NOT IN THE HEARTLAND!!!

Anonymous | 3/11/2008, 3:31 pm EST

Come on now people, whats the point of being neg and nasty with comments. All the new artists inducted should simply be congradulated for their extreme talents and sucess. Good for them for getting into the Hall of Fame simple as that.

boogie | 3/11/2008, 3:30 pm EST

Spook=douche

Sid | 3/11/2008, 3:30 pm EST

Why is Madonna getting the bulk of the headlines over the other more worthy inductees?

And does she really belong in the ROCK hall?

Has Madonna ever recorded a ROCK song?
Has she ever gotten airplay on a ROCK station?
Is her music enjoyed by ROCK fans?
Has she ever even influenced a ROCK artist?

Madonna is not Rock and Roll… She’s ANTI-Rock. She has done more to dilute and undermine rock music than just about anyone. It’s a slippery slope to the Hall of Fame inducting boy bands… When do New Kids on the Block or N-SYNC get inducted?

Madonna shouldn’t even be allowed in the Hall as a visitor, much less as a member.

Oh well… It is the Hall of FAME, not the Hall of Talent.

Real World | 3/11/2008, 3:29 pm EST

Hmmmm…. Stu Best… Any relation to Peter perhaps? Beatles are as good as it gets…

rollnrocker | 3/11/2008, 3:27 pm EST

Madonna IS a flute player; the skin flute! (What? someone hadda say it!)

David | 3/11/2008, 3:26 pm EST

dammit I agree with marie Madonna is so coooo ooooo ooooo ooooo ooooo ooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooool! !! =) =) =) =) =) i like bread!!!

Brian Young | 3/11/2008, 3:24 pm EST

Madonna? In the Hall of Fame??? No way! There are so many other great artists… who really dezerve more attention! Who cares about Madonna???

baby jesus is AMAZING! really. | 3/11/2008, 3:23 pm EST

i dont really see why madonna’s in the hall of fame, but whatever.

and jimmy hendrix, led zepplin, the beatles, etc. are AMAZING artists. so if your saying they dont deserve to be there your messed up!! YAY!

rocknroller | 3/11/2008, 3:22 pm EST

Madonna is as far from rock as a flute player was from metalica.When will rush get in?

NASHBR549 | 3/11/2008, 3:21 pm EST

I GOT TWO WORDS FOR YA DOOBIE BROTHERS.
AND WERE THE HECK IS GRAND FUNK.

John | 3/11/2008, 3:17 pm EST

Great insight, MillieVanillie. Now sing us a tune–oops, sorry. But go ahead and lip sync. The Hall of Fame awaits you.

Spook78 | 3/11/2008, 3:16 pm EST

Madonna, Timberlake….Madonna, Timberlake….Madonna, Timberlake….Madonna…snooze ……….will someone PLEASE change the subject ?? You people are getting realllllly boring here.

Ms.D | 3/11/2008, 3:15 pm EST

Fine. You made me do it…

http://en.wikipedia.o rg/wiki/Rock_n_Roll_hall_of_Fa me

Read it and let it go. Damn!

Stu Best | 3/11/2008, 3:15 pm EST

The Beatles are over-rated.

Nipples | 3/11/2008, 3:13 pm EST

I love it when some writes a well thought out argument like snoovie (by the way I don’t agree with you), and some one like Brian Davis comes along with a one line response that is the equivalent to a 5-year saying, “You’re a doo doo head.” Good job and nice argument Brian.

Keith | 3/11/2008, 3:13 pm EST

Why was Madonna inducted into the Rock-n-Roll hall of fame?

Is the HOF gonna build a Lowest Common Denomination Stupid Pop Crap wing? That’s where all of this top 40 garbage ‘music’ belongs.

zoeygirl23 | 3/11/2008, 3:10 pm EST

Madonna in the Rock Hall of Fame? Lets start adding basketball players to the foot ball hall of fame! Puhleese!

MillieVanillie | 3/11/2008, 3:08 pm EST

Come on everyone she is a rocker!! in the same sense that Tiny Tim,Britney Spears,The Archies,Lawrence Welk,The Osmonds,The Young Caucasians,The Way-Outs and Barbara Streisand are.Madonna is the personification of the Spirit of Rock and Roll just as the above mentioned artists are.How anyone could think that she doesn’t belong in a Hall that has accepted much lesser talents such as Jimi Hendrix,Led Zeppelin,The Beatles,The Who,The Rolling Stones and the other wanna be Rockers is beyond me.Rock music came into it’s own when Madam Madonna WROTE the book on ROCK.Rock music was absolute crap before Ms Ciccone blessed us with her slutty genius.Paul McCartney wishes he had as much talent in his whole body as Madonna has in her gap tooth!!Why don’t you people see this obvious fact.She started the whole doing aerobics to a electronic dance beat craze that has REVOLUTIONIZED Rock Music.Which has made Rock the great art form that we know today as exemplified by the Coltrane of Modern Rock-BRITNEY SPEARS.!!!!!!!!

Bread | 3/11/2008, 3:08 pm EST

Has Bread been inducted yet? “Baby I’m-A Want You” rocks!
(And lets have a little luv for Seals & Crofts, too; We May Never Pass This Way Again.)

Alassin A. | 3/11/2008, 3:06 pm EST

The legacy that Madonna leaves us with is Gwen Stefani…thanks Mads.
And the board wont let The Monkees in on the grounds that they didn’t wrote their own music. Nesmith only invented MTV, but thats not groundbreaking enough. Half of their inductees didn’t write their own music…including Mad Mads!

Marie | 3/11/2008, 3:06 pm EST

I love Maddonna she has always been around and she deserves this for all her hard work!!!!

Nicki | 3/11/2008, 3:05 pm EST

Madonna Rock? Ummmm, no

1814 | 3/11/2008, 3:03 pm EST

Who’s justins 2 exes?

Rockin' Kevy | 3/11/2008, 3:02 pm EST

Madonna is not a Rocker, she is bad vocals over bad casio inspired dance tracks. Ray Davies was right in his speech when his band , The Kinks, was inducted: ‘Rock and Roll has become a spectacle…what a drag’

p.s.- kudo the the magnificent DK5!

Brian Davis | 3/11/2008, 3:02 pm EST

THEN CALL IT THE ALL INCLUSIVE ANYTHING THATS EVER BEEN CALLED “MUSIC” HALL OF FAME YOU DEAD ABOVE THE NECK MORON!!!!!!!!

Pat | 3/11/2008, 3:02 pm EST

WSJ is correct if the Hall of Fame’s intention is to honor the popularity machine of entertainers as opposed to musicians, whether they are “popular” or not. And hell, maybe that is the intention.

Snoovie | 3/11/2008, 2:58 pm EST

For those of you using the Madonna is not “rock” argument, listen up. Go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’s website (www.rockhall.com). Look at the list of inductees. 40% of them are not “rock” artists. The list is comprised of plenty of people whom have contributed to this thing we call “rock and roll”. Country, Blues, Folk, Rock, Pop, R&B, Rap, Funk, etc. make up “Rock and Roll”. Inductess from all these types of music are represented in the hall of fame for their contributions to music in general. That is why Madonna was inducted in her first year of eligibility.

Whether you love her, hate her, or are indifferent, you would have to be in a coma to not realize the impact she has had on music and “rock and roll”. She was instrumental in the emergence of the impact of video imagery on “rock and roll”. She was unafraid to discuss sexuality from a woman’s point-of-view in her music. Male artists had been doing it for years, but female artists were afraid of the stigma which would be attached to them. Madonna changed all of that. She was also the first female artist to have total control of her destiny. Female artists were seen by record executives as a commodity to be used up and discarded. Madonna stayed on the cutting edge to stay relavent and keep her music career viable. She has had a career which has lasted through cultural shifts. When her new album drops in April, it will debut at the top of the charts. After 25 years the public still cares about her music, that is amazing.

Madonna deserves to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for the above reasons.

Ms.D | 3/11/2008, 2:54 pm EST

It’s just really sad that no one on here really understands the PURPOSE of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It’s to honor the most influential artists, producers and non performers in the music industry particularly Rock and Roll but not limited to Rock and Roll.

WSJ | 3/11/2008, 2:52 pm EST

Don’t bash people unless you have been there and done that. Madonna and Timberlake, no matter what their talents are, have been enormously successful in a very difficult industry. No one - I mean no one - has an easy road to the top. It doesn’t exist. These two deserve all the respect for that. To those of you who believe that they have had no influence on the music industry: Don’t tell me you don’t know at least one Madonna or JT song by heart. They are the greatest entertainers of their time. Rock on JT!

boogie | 3/11/2008, 2:46 pm EST

I’m not so much upset at Maddona being inducted as reading about that t00l, Justin Timberlake rehashing his lame dating life.

Like i said, grow a pair…

Pat | 3/11/2008, 2:45 pm EST

Lilly wrote: “Madonna set a standard for strong women who could be in control of their sexuality.” Great. So Madonna is a wonderful sociologist. But what does this have to do with being a musician worthy of hall of fame recognition?

Sheila | 3/11/2008, 2:44 pm EST

Madonna is a busy woman! Is she the besy singer..not by a long shot, but she is fun to watch and for the most part has not glorified drugs, or any kind of eating disorder! She’s okay!

\m/ (* *) \m/ | 3/11/2008, 2:40 pm EST

Madonna is not, has never been and never will be rock n roll.

LB0T | 3/11/2008, 2:36 pm EST

Bahh She is not rock but I am interested to know if she used her fake British accent.

Lilly | 3/11/2008, 2:35 pm EST

This can’t be happening, this is addressed to you. The movie that you are referring to with Madonna is like 20 years old, grow up she apparently did..It is time to let it go, and don’t hate that you will never be known for anything. Madonna set a standard for strong women who could be in control of their sexuality, not just lying on a car like a video ho….

Roman | 3/11/2008, 2:34 pm EST

Rock-N-Rock Hall of Fame induction checklist. Subject: Madonna:

type of rock music: none
instrument expertise: non-existent
singing voice: poor without digital enhancement
background voice potential: fair
song-writing abilities: poor
dancing ability: excellent
visual qualities: excellent
management: crafty
money made for the industry: superb

decision: She’s in.

pumpkin smasher | 3/11/2008, 2:33 pm EST

this is all one big stroke for people who think they are more important than every body else…
rock and roll? hall of fame? ego acts the lot of them.. so tired of hearing about these people.. news media when are they gonna get it we laugh at the freak show in gilded cage..
two bears
one bear says to the other one.. hey did ya hear what happened to joe? the other bear says no what? well they trained him to dance and sing and now he goes from city to city singing for crowds of thousands.. he’s got his own cage.. he performs really good too..
other bear..
starts crying.. how sad for joe..

Zakk Wylde | 3/11/2008, 2:33 pm EST

Attention people who think Madonna is a valid Rock n Roll Hall of Fame inductee…You wouldn’t know rock n roll if Ozzy Osbourne himself bent you over and gave you his Iron Man. \m/ \m/

Anonymous | 3/11/2008, 2:30 pm EST

Madonna in the 80’s and 90’s was the awesomist. She deserves it. She is creative and entertaines very well. All you haters your fave rock stars will be eligible once they commit to creativity and lead the way to something different and good.

Anonymous | 3/11/2008, 2:30 pm EST

Madonna in the 80’s and 90’s was the awesomist. She deserves it. She is creative and entertaines very well. All you haters your fave rock stars will be eligible once they commit to creativity and lead the way to something different and good.

sylvie_is | 3/11/2008, 2:23 pm EST

All I can say about Leanord Cohen being inducted is “It’s about freakin’ time!” (sorry to steal your line spook). But just on a personal level, Leanord Cohen has touched me deeply over the years. He’s influenced my own work. His poetry will live on forever, I believe future generations will see him as a prophet.

Anonymous | 3/11/2008, 2:17 pm EST

huh

ROCK!!!!!!! | 3/11/2008, 2:16 pm EST

URDogspot-
Its called ROCK-N-ROLL.Not POP-N-ROLL,OR SOUL-N-ROLL.!!!!!WHY DON’T YOU TRY AND EVOLVE A LITTLE AND GET OUT OF THE SLOW MISERABLE NICHE YOU ARE IN!!!!!!!!!
“YOU ARE” DOG SPOT!!!!

Brian Davis | 3/11/2008, 2:12 pm EST

Madonna in the “Rock” Hall of Fame…Hmmm. I would call it laughable, but it’s not.

IT’S JUST FRIGGIN STUPID!!!!!

The only impact she’s ever had on rock is to get alot of search buttons on radio’s throughout the world PRESSED!! We all know that talent is only part of what makes a good show. She was promoted well and she was fine, thats all! The hall of fame should be reserved for the “Real Deal” Who’s next??
HANNA MONTANNA!!! Get your own bubblegum pop hall of fame! And leave the “Rock” hall for the real rockers who undestand that music without meaning, is NOISE!!

DD | 3/11/2008, 2:10 pm EST

Actually Dolly, its “Janis” not “Janice”. If you are going to refer to her, at least do her the courtesy of spelling her name right.

Hector and Joey | 3/11/2008, 2:08 pm EST

everyone is invited to the wedding of two pickles. Two boobs who found each other here talking about Madonna. Go figure.

Amberlee | 3/11/2008, 2:08 pm EST

Not a Madonna fan… Never really have been but i do have to agree W/YOO HOO. The bitch does such tho!

Laura K | 3/11/2008, 2:04 pm EST

Well, it is true the Rock ‘n Roll Hall of Fame is suffering so the intention was to give it a boost and induct Madonna. Like her or not, she has had more sold out concerts, most hits, etc. She is an icon in her own right and changed music in her own way. She was very influential to the younger crowd.

I saw her in concert several years ago and it was a blast! One big party and she danced her a$$ off.

No more tears | 3/11/2008, 2:04 pm EST

Madonna didn’t get choked up. She lost her place on the speech she wrote out because she was nervous and is getting older so she couldn’t see it that well. Her face didn’t MOVE when she talked either!!!

londoner | 3/11/2008, 2:02 pm EST

I think the Hall defines Rock & Roll loosely, more like “contemporary music” or “popular music”. The people complaining here obviously have a slightly more purist view on what R&R is, i.e. guitar-driven music.

Leonard Cohen is one of the best lyricist in popular music ever. But based of most of your definition(s), he’s absolutely NOT Rock & Roll! Even less so than Madonna. But he’s honored for his artistic and cultural contribution. In that case, he definitely deserves a place. This guy is a true artist.

Yes, Madonna has sold a gazillion records but she’s also the one that pushes more buttons than most so-called rock bands that have come and gone through the decades. Do some research folks! She’s culturally influential and she’s THE singer that embodies postmodern themes and strategies. People that don’t see the irony of her bimbo image obviously don’t “get” it.

Some folks resort to these lame theories about why Madonna sells records: sex, marketing, controversy. If that’s the case, Pamela Anderson, Jenna Jameson and the late Anna Nicole Smith should have put out some records and sold shit loads. Would they though? I think not. The one Madonna record (”Erotica”) that’s blatantly “sexual” was her poorest selling album. Can it be the simple reason that people actually “like,” and continue to like, Madonna’s music?

Madonna’s music appeals to many people on many different levels. Like the Beatle’s music, can it be that her music happens to possess both mass appeal and artistic/intellectual appeal. She draws from underground sounds, make it her own, and bring it the mainstream.

If you define Rock & Roll as rebellious, no-compromise, boundary-pushing and stereotype-defying, then Madonna is probably more Rock & Roll than many bands that are already in the hall.

Let’s face it, Rock & Roll has historically been comfortably misogynist: some people (male?) are just uncomfortable with a powerful female. I’m sure Joni Mitchell and Chrissie Hynde would agree.

Like Bowie, Prince and Michael Jackson, Madonna as an artist creates musical experiences that combine the music, the visual and the stage performance. She just happens to have outlasted all of them and remains relevant and hugely popular. Can luck, sex, marketing and controversy keep her at the very top of her game for almost 30 years?

Is it possible that perhaps Madonna actually has real talent?

alan | 3/11/2008, 2:02 pm EST

I’m I wrong about something .Did I miss something .Where’s Paul Rodgers , Andy fraiser , Simon Kirke ,, Paul Kossoff .
Madonna in the Hall Of Fame .
Maybe next year Lawrence Welk .
If it wasn’t for Madonna show and dance .She wouldn’t even be a good back up singer .
Shame on the Hall of Fame .

alan | 3/11/2008, 2:02 pm EST

I’m I wrong about something .Did I miss something .Where’s Paul Rodgers , Andy fraiser , Simon Kirke ,, Paul Kossoff .
Madonna in the Hall Of Fame .
Maybe next year Lawrence Welk .
If it wasn’t for Madonna show and dance .She wouldn’t even be a good back up singer .
Shame on the Hall of Fame .

no one | 3/11/2008, 2:02 pm EST

who cares………..

JOEY!!!! | 3/11/2008, 1:59 pm EST

alpha? omega? listen man, Hector may need a hug and I think you have what it takes to make him happy. Two apples in a bucket….or pickles in a jar. yawn…get a life.

Mary | 3/11/2008, 1:54 pm EST

i like madonna and she still looks good to be her age don’t try to diss her because she has been doing music since the eighties and she still getting paid so if u feel u have to to diss her then don’t write comments because she was out before alot of u were born and don’t compare her to brittney spears because brittney don’t have nothing on her i doubt if she’ll have a long career like madonna has had

Joey | 3/11/2008, 1:53 pm EST

Dont you people realize that “rock” is an attitude-an aura-and few have it as distinctively as Madonna, commerical as she is. She is in a sense the “alpha” and “omega” of entertainers. Every artist deserving has their year for induction, and this is her year. It has ben her yeat for the past 25. Peace.

Dolly | 3/11/2008, 1:53 pm EST

Madonna in the R&R Hall of Fame? Speaking ONLY for myself…I wouldn’t bother to walk across the street to see Madonna if someone gave me a free ticket! I’m glad Jimi, Janice, John Bonham, Jim Morrison, etc., weren’t alive to see it—they probably all would have died a second death.

JP | 3/11/2008, 1:52 pm EST

I’m not a fan of Justin Timberlake. Damn! This guy gave a really funny, insightful induction speech for Madonna. Madonna has always been a hit and miss artist for me for every “Ray Of Light” there is “American Life”. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has always inducted everybody from rock to soul to rap. So, why not pop music? If there is anyone from pop music that deserves to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, it has to be Madonna.

actorguy | 3/11/2008, 1:51 pm EST

Yea, where are the Zombies, because madonna,”She’s not there”.

actorguy | 3/11/2008, 1:51 pm EST

Yea, where are the Zombies, because madonna,”She’s not there”

actorguy | 3/11/2008, 1:51 pm EST

Yea, where are the Zombies, because madonna,”She’s not there”

maria | 3/11/2008, 1:50 pm EST

I love Madonna … I don’t know anything about music.. but .. I love it that everysong takes me some place and moment in my life.

“Like a vergin”

maria | 3/11/2008, 1:50 pm EST

I love Madonna … I don’t know anything about music.. but .. I love it that everysong takes me some place and moment in my life.

“Like a vergin”

shavittablkely | 3/11/2008, 1:48 pm EST

i think this is bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hector | 3/11/2008, 1:48 pm EST

Hello? Madonna helped changed the face of music in the 21st century. Like a Virgin, Justify my Love, Human Nature. Come on people. Wake up and smell the VAG!!!

napoleon | 3/11/2008, 1:47 pm EST

Vote for Pedro. I bet he did Madonna

This cant be happening!!!! | 3/11/2008, 1:47 pm EST

I am sorry but I agree with the statement Madonna can not sing she is famous becasue she is a slut did everyone see that movie she did where she could put the bottle all the way down her throat? I mean who does that? not someone with self respect!!!!!! I am not one for bassing people but she really is a joke people just honor her because they feel they have to since she has been around so long. They feel its cool to buy her records since she made such a sexual statement when it was a tabu and it made her cool! If you think about it her music is not as popular now that she has gotten older and she is not as sexy as she use to be. She is really a has been just like Micheal Jackson but irs their reputations for what they stand for that keeps them in the lime light

Rick Vannoy | 3/11/2008, 1:47 pm EST

Give Me a Break - Madonna has had ZERO influence on Rock AND Roll. The Hall of Fame in discussion is The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame NOT the INDUSTRY Hall of Fame. Your lumping ANYONE in this category doesn’t change that!! By your definition we should put Millie Small in there for singing “My boy lollipop”.

Steve | 3/11/2008, 1:45 pm EST

Elvis and Madonna are tied for the most # 1 singles. All she needs is one more to surpass The King. She is the QUEEN of Rock and Roll…like it or not folks.

Rick Vannoy | 3/11/2008, 1:44 pm EST

Madonna has had ZERO influence on Rock AND Roll. The Hall of Fame in discussion is The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame NOT the INDUSTRY Hall of Fame. Your lumping ANYONE in this category doesn’t change that!! By your definition we should put Millie Small in there for singing “My boy lollipop”.

YOO_HOO | 3/11/2008, 1:44 pm EST

Here is what the HOF has to say about their inductees:The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame honors the legendary performers, producers, songwriters, disc jockeys and others who have made rock and roll the force that it is in our culture. For over two decades, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation has been nominating and electing those figures, and honoring them at an annual ceremony that has become one of the most celebrated events of the year, and certainly one of the hottest tickets in rock.
So…..to sum it all up, regardless of what you may think fits the “rock n roll” definition, it is more about the impact that said artist has had on “pop” culture and trends……I’m not a Madonna fan….but impact she has made.

the hell with truth! CINDY!!! | 3/11/2008, 1:43 pm EST

she is a tease. Cindy…..hmmmm, lovely. You can play my instrument if you would like. no talent needed just a nice pair of strong lips and not raking please

Arthur | 3/11/2008, 1:40 pm EST

I didn’t know Madonna had enough talent to get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Oh wait I forgot. Like the untalented J.Low, she has a great publicity agent. Now that’s the person who should be in the hall of fame, not Madonna. Another legend in her own mind!!

Amanda | 3/11/2008, 1:39 pm EST

When did they change the name to Pop and Roll Hall of Fame???

Brian Davis | 3/11/2008, 1:38 pm EST

Who votes on this stuff??!!
Madonna in the “Rock” hall of fame?
I personally think you selfimportant, selfindulgent, selfcentered, music exe. types should come back to reality! Leave the politics out of it! Madonna??
I think I’m gonna be sick! The Egles, Stevie Ray, Tesla, Boston, that’s Rock! And you wonder why these stinkin awards shows get crappy ratings, they’re a joke! Get a clue!!!!

Truth.....are you THE TRUTH | 3/11/2008, 1:36 pm EST

I am sorry but I don’t know if truth is The Truth. Are you one and the same? if not, I am sorry to The Truth….but not truth. Truth is I am sorry, no I am not. wait, yes I am. sigh

Mike | 3/11/2008, 1:35 pm EST

How is it possible that Leonard Cohen, The Mamas & Papas, and The Lovin’ Spoonful are in the Hall of Fame and Donovan isn’t? Other than Dylan, was there a more influential folk artist in the 60s? “Season of the Witch” alone is enough to justify his inclusion.

Cindy | 3/11/2008, 1:34 pm EST

I can’t play an instrument. I’m not much of a singer. I know nothing about music theory. But I look good and I can dance. What are my chances of some day being in the Rock-and-Rock Hall of Fame?

Truth.....I am sorry! | 3/11/2008, 1:33 pm EST

with your last comment…..Rocket! boy do I have a red rocket for you. ummmm so does my dog! lets make it a play date!

Whoa Madonna | 3/11/2008, 1:31 pm EST

Is she starting to look like Zsa Zsa Gabor?

Joan Jett is fabulous as is Iggy.

Give Me a Break | 3/11/2008, 1:30 pm EST

What a bunch of whiners. Just because your “band” isn’t in you want to bash everyone else. You all should look up the definition of “rock -n- Roll” before you spew more nonsense on the world. BTW getting into the hall is all about the “influence” one had on the industry as a whole and not about how good or bad they were.

question | 3/11/2008, 1:28 pm EST

why is madonna included in a rock category?

THE TRUTH | 3/11/2008, 1:27 pm EST

Ike Turner is highly credit as the first person to record a Rock n’ Roll song with Rocket 88 and he was inducted until 1991 as part of the Ike and Tina Turner Revue. Now Tina herself probably the most notable female rock performer has never been inducted as a solo artist, yet Madonna goes before her. Interesting.

Sad! | 3/11/2008, 1:27 pm EST

Sad, Very Sad!

Sad! | 3/11/2008, 1:27 pm EST

Sad, Very Sad!

Truth....be told | 3/11/2008, 1:26 pm EST

wow, get your fingers working there bbbbbaaaabbbbyyyy! I want some!!!

Duff | 3/11/2008, 1:26 pm EST

Gotta agree, what a joke the Hall has become.

Sad.

IMHO

A NOT SO MADONNA FAN | 3/11/2008, 1:25 pm EST

WAS THAT ONE OF HER PUBLICITY STUNT? WHATS HAPPENIN TO THIS CRAZY WORLD I BET SHE CANT EVEN SPELL DA WORD “ROCK N ROLL”. FOLKS SHE SLEPT HER WAY THRU DIS ONE!

yoda | 3/11/2008, 1:25 pm EST

madonna give me a break!!! i have a friend who work for her concert tour a while back.she doesnt sing she lipsynch. this is embarrasing to the rock and roll hall of fame!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous | 3/11/2008, 1:24 pm EST

As far as I’m concerned, the HOF will have no credibility until RUSH gets in.

Anonymous | 3/11/2008, 1:24 pm EST

ummm, its not somewhere in Ohio it’s in friggin Cleveland where it should be THE ROCK n ROLL capital!!!

Me | 3/11/2008, 1:23 pm EST

If there was a Pop Hall of Fame then Yes… Maddona Should be in it. If there was a Music Hall Of Fame the Yes… Maddona Should be in it. But putting her in the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame is like putting Babe Ruth in the Basket Ball Hall Of Fame because he played proffessional sports.

Com'on Truth.... | 3/11/2008, 1:23 pm EST

just hit enter, colon…..#, #, #!!!!

rock hall revolution | 3/11/2008, 1:21 pm EST

People get upset about this sort of thing because they take it very seriously. Much more so than the actual board who inducts these people it seems.

How many more deserving people like Mike Smith will die before they get their day… meanwhile the board is busy inducting Madonna.

Turn the votes over to the people! Make your process transparent!

Rock fans deserve better than this!

And the rock hall in cleveland has nothing to do with this.

It’s the board… of which… this very magazine has some influence.

Proof- you are right. | 3/11/2008, 1:21 pm EST

not about all women, just Madonna. Ummm and now you. how about a little BJ baaaabbbbyyyyyy?

Anonymous | 3/11/2008, 1:21 pm EST

OMG! Madonna! How horrible! Come to think of it, let’s take back our inductions of Prince, Michael Jackson, The Bee Gee’s, Parliment, Simon and Garfunkel, Billy Joel, The Jackson Five, Joni Mitchell and James Taylor. Simply because they aren’t “rock” enough. Look, I’ll give you that Alice Cooper is an amazing artist and performer, BUT, you prove to me that he has made a tenth of the impact on the music industry that Madonna has made, and I’ll each my shoe.

First, learn the definition of “Rock N’ Roll”, then get back to me.

sweetlarryk@yahoo.com | 3/11/2008, 1:20 pm EST

As a former bass player in the 60’s for an opening act,now being 58 myself,i feel the 3 performers long overdue for induction,no questions asked,or excuses made are: chicago,linda ronstadt,moody blues.Nobody can sing any type of song,any genre,cross over to standards,she was the first to do to that with amazing falsettos. What’s wrong with the RRHOF to by pass such legends of rock music. I infact backed Ronstadt up 3 times,pure joy,what a great rock voice,everybody got up and danced,sheer delight!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HedHuntr | 3/11/2008, 1:20 pm EST

Let me know when they induct Tool. This opens the flood gates for these other pop tart wannabes

Proof | 3/11/2008, 1:17 pm EST

Why is everyone all over Madonna? Is she any less rock n roll than Mellancamp? It think is because she is a women and most of you are misogynists.

Proof | 3/11/2008, 1:17 pm EST

Why is everyone all over Madonna? Is she any less rock n roll than Mellancamp? It think is because she is a women and most of you are misogynists.

fistofate | 3/11/2008, 1:16 pm EST

I never liked Madonna… too much “look and listen to me” and nothing worthwhile to look at or listen to, in my humble opinion. Geekess of the 1980s… I guess she’s found her niche writing children’s books… people she can really shock.

jk | 3/11/2008, 1:16 pm EST

I dream of a world without Madonna

kcv | 3/11/2008, 1:16 pm EST

whether one likes it or not, madonna has had 47 top 40 hits, which is a lot…and i totally agree that cheap trick and kiss and rush should be in, and thin lizzy, j. geils band…maybe they should reveal how many votes each artist got, that might tell us more.

purtyGF | 3/11/2008, 1:16 pm EST

I ask the same questions — Where’s Alice Cooper? Heart?
I enjoyed some of Madonna’s songs being an 80s young adult but man, her music has always been pop. JT is the same and what was he doing there? We all have to realize that when we include those who are not supposed to be there, we bump off those who should be. Sad. So commercial…

blah | 3/11/2008, 1:15 pm EST

Hey JD…if it’s not all about rock n roll , then why oh why do they call it the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame? What you are talking about is the General Music Hall of Fame, which it seems just opened up in Ohio somehwere.

Steve Wells | 3/11/2008, 1:14 pm EST

Way to go Ventures! It’s about time. I have learned guitar because of you guys and I will always love your music.

Truth | 3/11/2008, 1:14 pm EST

“Madonna changed generations of women”

Yeah, her legacy is Britney Spears and all those other pop tarts.

Karen | 3/11/2008, 1:14 pm EST

Rock On-Who exactly is Earth Water and Fire? Whoever they are did not sing “It’s raining men”. That would have been the Weather Girls and although I am not positive, I am pretty sure that they are not and never will be inducted.

DHW55 | 3/11/2008, 1:12 pm EST

High selling pop artists should not be considered for induction into the RockNRoll hall of fame, there are too many “real” rockers missing from these hallowed halls.

Ohio Sucks | 3/11/2008, 1:11 pm EST

Once again R&R Hall of Shame has done it again. Yep. Rock and Roll is TRULY DEAD.

kcv | 3/11/2008, 1:11 pm EST

boy is it funny