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Kim Deal Says No New Pixies Album “Because I Don’t Want To”

12/7/07, 3:06 pm EST

When Rock Daily spoke with Breeders leader and Pixies bassist Kim Deal recently about the Breeders’ April 8th album Mountain Battles, Deal didn’t shy away from talk of a new Pixies record: She says there won’t be one (with her on bass, at least). “Helll no,” she says. “Because I don’t want to.”

Her reasoning? She’s a music fan who doesn’t want to hear new albums from bands she enjoyed years ago. “I heard the last Rolling Stones record was good,” she explains. “The thing is, I don’t even care if it’s the best thing they’ve ever done, I just wouldn’t listen to it. And it’s not anything that they’re doing wrong. As a listener, I don’t want to hear about it. I like the Stones at this period of time that I like them, and that’s why I like them. Maybe I’m an elitist, but I don’t feel like I am.” Deal adds that on some level, she thinks Pixies leader Charles Thompson (a.k.a. Frank Black) doesn’t really want to make a new studio album either. “I was kind of waiting for Charles and [guitarist Joey Santiago] to get together and do demos and they never did.”

Her reluctance to record with her first band doesn’t mean she didn’t get a kick out of their 2004 reunion tour — or that she wouldn’t do it again. “I enjoy doing the tours,” she says, musing on the number of groups who attempted similar reconciliations in the wake of Pixies’ extremely successful trek. “It worked for us because we didn’t have to fit into the black leather pants and do the high kicks. Because we never had black leather pants and we never did high kicks. We were overweight and ugly then, and we’re overweight and ugly now, so it really wasn’t a stretch. Nobody looked at us and thought, ‘Oh, their youthy dew has gone.’ Other than their hair, that’s about it.”

But Deal did undergo a significant change before Pixies’ reunion: she stopped drinking. In fact, work on Mountain Battles began even before she entered rehab in 2002. When she emerged, she was nervous about writing clean. “That was a really scary thing, because I thought everybody who gets sober begins to suck,” she says. Rehab, however, was a necessity because she’d been doing drugs since age thirteen. “Somebody said this and I recognized myself: I wasn’t a musician with some drugs in the room, I was a drug addict with some musical gear in the room.” After a tumultuous stint at 2002’s All Tomorrow’s Parties festival (”I thought I was going to fucking die there. I had really bad shakes, and I was drinking so much”), Deal scheduled herself a trip to rehab over Christmas.

She was subsequently totally sober and healthy on the 2004 Pixies tour, and made the decision to rejoin the band with a clear head. “Me and Joe agreed, okay, what we’ll do is we’ll just get into a practice space and try it,” she says. “And if it sounds stupid or it feels stupid, we won’t do it. Charles was touring a record, so me and Joe and [drummer] David [Lovering] got into a rehearsal space out in L.A. I drove out there in my Volvo, we used the Breeders’ rehearsal space, and it was the three of us, and it sounded exactly the same as it did. Exactly. For better or worse. Me and Joe were like, is this good in that we’re so good we can sound like ourselves, or is this bad in that we haven’t grown one inch musically?”

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imagoat | 6/16/2009, 6:24 pm EST

what if picasso quit painting after his blue period? u2 still putting out quality. i even still have faith in rem. artist create, thats what they do.

Anonymous | 6/15/2009, 7:23 pm EST

offspring???? you lost me there.

Crackity Jones | 5/27/2009, 10:30 am EST

Shes pretty ignorant to say that. Plenty of bands may be “past their prime” but are still releasing great material: Pearl Jam, The Offspring, Iron Maiden, etc…

While the new stuff might not be the BEST they’ve ever done, it all still good, and par with the old stuff at least, even occasionally better. And it hasn’t destroyed the legacy of any of those bands.

It’s all a matter of how much you trust your band to still be creative, and she obviously doesn’t trust her bandmates.

zombabby | 5/15/2009, 12:20 pm EST

2004 Bam Thwok as good as all the rest just make more

Brixton The Cow | 4/23/2009, 5:18 pm EST

No matter what ANY of these guys do, they always do it best together. I think she’s using good caution in saying that comment about not doing another record. HOWEVER, I also think she needs to realize that unlike Metallica, they wouldn’t be beating a dead horse. At this point, even the Pixies B-Sides are amazing. The Martinis were pretty good, The Breeders were pretty good, Frank Black/The Catholics, even the Black Francis album pretty darn good. Frank Black’s “Teenager of the Year” just destroys me. But no matter what, they should above all do what they do best - make records together. Try telling Willie Nelson to stop making records. Not happening. The point is, you make music to MAKE music, not to revel on the past. Keep forging ahead, and that means MAKE ANOTHER RECORD! Even if it stinks (aka Metallica) you can still play your old stuff and get away with it! :P

MotTheWot | 4/23/2009, 1:04 am EST

Actually they are one band that just might get away with it. I understand what she says and i agree with her completely about the Stones analogy, i just can’t help thinking that the chemistry these four musicians have would make it work. A superb band.

Yv | 4/21/2009, 2:26 pm EST

I agree with Kim as well. As much as I love The Breeders, they never had as much impact on the music world than the Pixies did.

If The Breeders release a terrible album, it wouldn’t even affect that many people. But if the Pixies did, I think it would kind of ruin it (like how Metallica keeps releasing crap and it’s embarrassing for people who had been listening to them since the 80s to even say they liked them).

Also, to ask them to create an album and just not release it if it comes out bad is kind of a hefty request. It usually takes these types of bands at least a year to write, correct, and lay down the tracks.

Not to mention the fact that people would want it released anyway and would find some way to leak it.

bonemachinemeetsdivinehammer.. | 4/13/2009, 2:00 pm EST

As much as I love the pixies–can’t go a day without listening to them, butt I also can’t go a day without the Breeders!! Both bands have a magical aura about them…let the cards stand…Kim is doing her thing…writing and making new albums…she’s not on the side-lines and she never will be!! After meeting her at a concert you can just feel her energy and full-front “I’m into this.” She’s doing her thing, and all she does is a Magic-land to me….

Pixies is god | 3/17/2009, 11:51 am EST

One tour in the Philippines Please consider this guys. JOey please bring your mates here man.

Thanks in advance!

Anonymous | 3/9/2009, 7:25 am EST

I think Kim makes a fair comment.
However, i would like the pixies to make new material and if it’s not up to scratch don’t release it.

Alvaro (chile) | 2/12/2009, 12:51 pm EST

PLEASE.. guys… Just one taste of pie.. One PIXIES World Tour.. And please INCLUDE Sudamerica.. (and Chile)I dont want die without meet Pixies concert…You can do it!!

tnarG drawdooW | 9/9/2008, 12:22 pm EST

Think about how you and your life has changed since those early Pixies albums. You can’t expect the band to live in a continual stasis so that you can’t relive your youth once in a while. We all gotta move on. The Pixies kick ass in my opinion but if they don’t wanna record new stuff….they don’t wanna thats fine. lol

DARIO | 7/18/2008, 2:14 pm EST

QUE LOS PIXIES VENGAN A LA ARGENTINA !!!!!

Sara Giesbretch | 6/19/2008, 2:23 pm EST

I love Kim Deal and I love the Pixies. I am listening to The Breeders right now, as I write this (I have to admit~ I do enjoy the funky sounds and weird lyric’s of Pixies better) And I agree with the comments, that The Breeders have not made an album in a long time, however, Kim said she had started work on the album before 2002, so it’s been a long time coming. As far as The Pixies making a new album… YES YES PLEASE!!! I would much rather see the Pixies tour again with new stuff (or old) than the New Kids on the Block or Back Street Boys… or the other zillion bands that are making a “come-back” for obvious money reason’s. The Pixies are classic and GOOD and that will never die, no matter what they were to create next.

appie | 4/1/2008, 6:15 pm EST

Oh come on people. Don’t blame a musician like Kim Deal for doing live acts and selling her music.
What she did with the breeders was more than just a few songs. They deserve more respect.

El Stupido | 3/25/2008, 10:25 pm EST

Did anyone download BAM THWOK?! That’s reason enough to not have a new Pixies album. Seriously, as much as I want a new album, Kim’s got a point. A new album would suck. It doesn’t sound like the others really want it anyway… On the other hand, Mountain Battles which I’ve just listened to is frickin awesome. They are not past their prime at all. This new album is their best one so far…

Dany | 1/28/2008, 6:28 am EST

Too bad, really. Frank Black (or Black Francis) still writes amazing songs and Kim (along with Joey and David) still can sound like the Pixies. I was really hopping a new Pixies album would eventually be made. Sounds like it won’t. Why? Because Kim thinks no one would care. She might be right, but let’s be honnest : how many people are holding their breath for a new Breeders album? Not that many, really (even if I’m one of them). Oh well, at least I’ve seen my favorite band ever (with Eels) perform live on their reunion tour (twice….seemed a little obbsesive for my friends at the time, but it looks like there won’t be other occasions, so I’m glad I did). And new Black Francis and Breeders albums will be welcome (why dosen’t anybody cares about records like Title TK or Honeycomb? They’re great).

Arrow Hall | 1/26/2008, 9:14 am EST

I long for the days of Pixies playing at Masonic temple.. and long for more of the life defining Pixies music from my past.. but kim’s right, I don’t think that type of music would define who i am now.. and i would never want the Pixies to be anything but the Pixies who defined me at that point in my life.

Deedee | 1/6/2008, 9:27 am EST

Kim Deal ROCKS, as does Frank Black/Black Francis and the Pixies, past, present and any future endeavors. Along with the Beatles, they are the most innovative musicians ever. Countless bands have paid homage to,or been influenced by,their brillance.

Paul | 12/23/2007, 2:42 am EST

Breeders are the best band ever. Keep it up.

Sammy Rocket | 12/20/2007, 5:09 am EST

Lifes too short, the Breeders suck. Make another Pixies album!

cat | 12/16/2007, 9:32 pm EST

give credit where credit is due kim is amazing. Maybe she doesn’t want to record an album with the Pixies because she has issues with the band.

wiggle-stick | 12/15/2007, 9:27 am EST

replace the fat b1tch.

streek0 | 12/14/2007, 8:41 pm EST

“BUT… Aren’t The Breeders a little past their prime and still releasing albums?”

Exactly. Their last good album was like 10 yrs ago. Do another Pixies album, it would be great. Frank Black still writes great songs (now as Black Francis again).

I Heart Kim | 12/12/2007, 12:41 pm EST

As much as I’d LOVE a new Pixies album, she’s probably right. It just wouldn’t be as good. Anyone who heard Bam Thwok would have to agree. It didn’t have the same raw, strange energy. It didn’t change anyone’s life the way Surferosa or Doolittle did.

I’m psyched for the new Breeders album though. Hopefully it keeps the lo-fi rawness of Pod.

Smyrna | 12/11/2007, 11:11 am EST

Sobriety breeds humility and ego-quests seem less compelling. Great to hear Kim’s positive thinking and obvious resepct for herself.

Megan | 12/10/2007, 9:15 am EST

I absolutley love them to death and would love to see them live again. But i think shes right in saying no new album. Looking forward to the breeders tour

Russell Burlingame | 12/10/2007, 8:03 am EST

I disagree with this. Frankly, to discount new content from a band because they’re old (not “past their prime,” as she pointed out that she didn’t care if “A Bigger Bang” was the best thing the Stones ever recorded), seems arbitrary and short-sighted. The fact that she wants to apply the reasoning to her own band is her own lookout, but as a listener of their music it’s a drag.

Jungleland | 12/10/2007, 7:50 am EST

You HAVE to love Kim. Honesty and not an ounce of bullshit. Plus she is right, a new Pixies CD would never be as good as it needed to be.

Black Francis’ new CD is amazing

mikeky | 12/10/2007, 1:05 am EST

she’s full of shit.

it’s about the money. tours make money, so she’ll do them. records…well, they don’t make money nowadays. so she doesn’t want to do one. typical alt-crap. she’s wearing the cool alt attitude–more alternative than thou–, but she’s really just whoring herself out like kiss or ashley simpson.

get real.

topo | 12/9/2007, 5:57 pm EST

IMO, it’s really no use to make a reunion if there’s no new album. A least they should try, and if it’s a bad record, it’s just a bad record, no harm done ! And she’s clearly wrong when she says BF didn’t want to make a new record. He did want, but nobody trusted him.

reeel deeel | 12/9/2007, 11:54 am EST

there is something to be said about rock stars being past their prime. there is also some freakishly good music put out by some of these so called has-beens. joey ramone’s solo album. david bowie’s last few albums. patti smiths last few albums. bob dylan. neil young. iggy pop (maybe not “skull ring”, but the two prior discs.) if tey had all taken the ill advice of kim, we would have missed out on some great music.

Bandido | 12/8/2007, 11:26 pm EST

Well, Pearl Jam are well past their prime, but that doesn’t seem to deter them from flooding the world with their Mock Rock Shlock!

This Monkey | 12/8/2007, 8:07 pm EST

Don’t get me wrong, I love The Pixies and even kind of understand what she’s saying. BUT… Aren’t The Breeders a little past their prime and still releasing albums?

Cringe Benefit | 12/8/2007, 7:18 pm EST

Kim makes sense to me.

Black Francis | 12/7/2007, 3:40 pm EST

I actually agree with what she has to say. I do wish the Pixies would tour again, because I didn’t get to see them in 2004.

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