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Rock Bloggin’: God Speaks to Billy Corgan, Tells Him to Post Ramblings on Public Forum

10/15/07, 1:57 pm EST


Billy Corgan loves this country. He doesn’t just love this country, he LOVES this country!! (The exclamation points his, not ours). In an enormous blog (or as BC calls it “Blob”) post on the Smashing Pumpkins Web site, Corgan waxes poetic about everything from Uncle Sam living in a timeshare in Trinidad to Epcot Center in Orlando to why his band doesn’t play that many Siamese Dream songs in concert. In a mere 1,156 words, Corgan manages to say everything and nothing at the same time in a bizarro stream-of-consciousness blur that would rival James Joyce’s Ulysses were it a tad more, you know, literary.

Making the labyrinthine post more confusing is the strange visual aids Corgan intersperses throughout the text. A picture of the Statue of Liberty in a snow globe (a nod to Zeitgeist’s cover?), a twenty-four minute YouTube video about Disneyland, and a photo of the puck commemoratively being dropped before an empty Colorado Avalanche/Phoenix Coyotes hockey game. Corgan does make momentary sense when he confronts a fan’s question regarding the lack of Siamese Dream songs on the setlist, to which Corgan replies: “’this is not a reunion tour’ … if one was to listen to Siamese Dream from a particular perspective, you might hear me at age 25 or so struggling with how to escape my past! How ironic that that same struggle should now become part of my current struggle for autonomy … the current SP is designed to live on happily, strongly, proudly, and boldly…there is no other way that I can see to water the flowers properly … we choose life, and the love of the moment for the song we choose to sing …” Which is roughly Corgan-speak for: we’re not playing Siamese songs because we’re on tour promoting Zeitgeist. You had ample time to purchase Siamese, now go buy our new one.

But wait, it gets stranger. Corgan proudly tells those still reading that “God talks to me,” putting himself in the same weight class as Jesus, evangelists and all those haggard guys we see on the subway. He then somehow attempts to make his point with these two consecutive sentences: “God does not want any of us to be unhappy, or to mourn for that which has no meaning … thanks to digital media, many of us can and will be remembered in perpetuity by an unseen future, but they probably won’t bother to watch … ” Umm, yeah. Thankfully, the ranting ends with the David Lee Roth-ian quote “We may not always be what you want, but we do have what you need!” What we really need is a nap after reading that blog.


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Comfort Inn | 10/15/2007, 2:17 pm EST

Well isn’t that special.

bill | 10/15/2007, 2:57 pm EST

I miss Zwan

hokeycoke | 10/15/2007, 3:07 pm EST

hope he doesn’t turn into dylan circa 1977.

eep | 10/15/2007, 3:53 pm EST

Uhm, Billy may think people care about him and his rants and his album, but really all us fans (or former fans, as the case may be) just wanna hear ‘Rocket’ and ‘Geek USA’, etc.

It is a reunion tour and, like almost all of those, no one going has any desire to hear Billy’s new songs or anything he has to say about God or anything else.

They should really start a celebrity rehab group where all these blowhards can get together and ‘express’ their crazy-ass selves.

the chech | 10/15/2007, 3:54 pm EST

what happened to this guy? maybe genius falters from time to time…

the chech | 10/15/2007, 3:54 pm EST

what happened to this guy? maybe genius falters from time to time…

albion | 10/15/2007, 4:11 pm EST

wish he’d eat a bullet

john bull | 10/15/2007, 4:48 pm EST

his career was over in 2000. why is he still news?

shaggy723 | 10/15/2007, 10:24 pm EST

You guys are morons. Apparently people do still care about Billy and his music because his new album has sold exceptionally well and his concerts are selling out.

zoomer | 10/16/2007, 12:37 am EST

“Making the labyrinthine post more confusing is the strange visual aids Corgan intersperses throughout the text. A picture of the Statue of Liberty in a snow globe (a nod to Zeitgeist’s cover?), a twenty-four minute YouTube video about Disneyland, and a photo of the puck commemoratively being dropped before an empty Colorado Avalanche/Phoenix Coyotes hockey game.”

Wow, if you knew anything about music at all, or the Smashing Pumpkins you would understand the pictures. Obviously you didn’t read the blog or you would know the Disney video was in reference to his comments about Walt Disney and Epcot Center.

Most embarrassing of all, you don’t even know who is in the band, or you would have recognized the person dropping the puck as Jeff Schroeder of the uhh.. Smashing Pumpkins.

Sheesh…

DJ | 10/16/2007, 3:20 am EST

Billy’s a great musician and Zeitgeist is a great album. He is crazy as all get-out, though.

axen | 10/16/2007, 7:28 am EST

same senseless stuff you read in other blogs from rockstars.. but if it’s thom yorke or even britney spears who’s writing it’s ok, when it’s about corgan it becomes laughable? I wonder why it makes it in the news anyway.. it’s a blog, it’s not supposed to be useful to anyone.. i hate blogs.

Sammy | 10/16/2007, 7:48 am EST

Did anyone see the Bono episode of South Park? Just replace Bono with Billy. Billy loves the biddy! He was 25 kurics.

Siamese Dreamer | 10/16/2007, 8:10 am EST

SP was once my favourite band…but the new album was a let down – only thought 4 songs on it were any good, and why did they have the world’s greatest waste of space (paris hilton…ugh!) on the cover of their single? Corgan really has lost the plot. Best pumpkins era was the the siames era – great songs!

Sanchez | 10/16/2007, 8:42 am EST

Funny, his blog is like an TV interview with a Hockey player between periods – Bunco.

Charlie Brown | 10/16/2007, 9:43 am EST

Dont hate blogs hate people who make them news!

Buggie Owens | 10/16/2007, 10:17 am EST

Rolling Stone…quit bitchin that Billy Corgan takes time to communicate with his fans. You got a lot of nerve complaining after the no-talent hacks that have been gracing your cover recently. Sure he is a bit rambling, but Big Fxxking Deal. It seems, other than Fricke’s appropriate review of the band, you got nothing but trash to talk about Corgan. It gets a little old after awhile. A blog or blob is not news. If you can’t write quality music articles, perhaps you should Tabibi to write them.

kyle silvers | 10/16/2007, 10:46 pm EST

Who gives a shit what he writes. Maybe God does talk to him maybe not who cares. Its the music that matters! Get a life Rolling Stone and some decent writers.

stove | 10/16/2007, 11:35 pm EST

I really wanna see someone cite where Corgan EVER said that he having a Smashing Pumpkins REUNION. Because Im more than sure he’s never once desribed the current incarnation of his band that way.

Second, when will RollingStone give it up. We get it. You hate Billy Corgan. Unless everyone else likes him, then he’s cool. RollingStone is all about Led Zeplin now, but thats not how it was back in the day.

Why doesnt RollingStone give MySpace a break and consentrate on their crack reporting on Panic At The Disco and Fallout Boy.

GLASSPERSERVED ANGELDUST | 10/17/2007, 12:57 am EST

SOME TIMES THE AUTHENTIC ORGINAL IS BEST EVEN IF GLASS TRIED TO CONSPIRE TO REPLACE IT WITH THE FLORIDA MODEL–DANA MAY HAVE A BUILD LIKE R.PLANT-BUT WELL SHE REALLY IS NOT THE AUTHENTIC ONE-FUNNY HOW THERES BEEN Sooo MANY WANNA BEES(like smith)BUT WELL WHAT THE ARCHITECH DESIGNED BEFORE THE FOUDATION-PLANS FOR*****SHE*****WILL PREVAIL………………….. ….ROCK ON GOLD DUST WOMAN

Humpy | 10/18/2007, 4:36 pm EST

God told billy to put paris on a cover & his teen, hard core porn star friend, in the album art work.

Because god does not like sane or talented people.

This might cure us into the whole american girls are sluts odd speak, well of course, he’s friends with paris & a hard core teen porn star.

Makes total sense. Really get’s us motivated to burn lies off of people as they hypocritically preach.

It is even hard to listen to my gish, i was smart enough not to buy the spirit of the age, as it actually has very little to do with the spirit of the age.

anyway | 10/19/2007, 4:39 pm EST

quoting the post RS’s talking about:

“I believe God talks to me at each and every moment of my life, the only problem being that I don’t listen..”

bella bedlam | 10/20/2007, 7:21 am EST

I’m getting tired of Pumpkins fans who only like Gish, Siamese Dream, and maybe, if they condescend, some of the MCIS stuff. “Because, like, man, that’s totally pure.” No, no, it’s not. To only like those albums? It’s safe, not pure.

Going to the Pumpkins show a week ago made me want to pull out my old records & listen to things I hadn’t listened to in a while: while still quite good, Siamese Dream sounded *dated*. (Also, while the production team was different, it seems it was made essentially the same way as Zeitgeist: only Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlin in the studio. How then is Siamese Dream “real” and Zeitgeist “fake”?)

It may horrify people who want to hear the same 70s-inspired riffs over and over again, and who ran screaming from the band the moment they heard the opening chords on either “Eye” or “Ava Adore” — whichever radio single was considered the turning point after MCIS — but psst, most of the songwriting on the two records prior to Zeitgeist is *better* than almost anything that came before. (I can’t speak for Zeitgeist because I haven’t really listened to it enough yet – the singles are all right, but I would have preferred a different mix on “Doomsday Clock.” Still, I’m willing to give it a chance, because I found that all five of its predecessors merited the chances I gave them).

Adore and Machina just happen to have not sold as many copies as their predecessors. Sales figures indicate that people didn’t “listen to the albums and decide they sucked” — they just didn’t buy the albums because the albums had a reputation for being “electronic,” and overwhelming evidence (”Hey we wanted to hear Siva and Geek USA!” etc) indicates that the mass of the SP audience is interested in the band only as quasi-psychedelic guitar rock.

And hey, Miley Cyrus’s Hannah Montana tour sold out in record time, so popularity is always a great indicator of quality… right?

(When something good finds mainstream acceptance, that’s awesome, but not every good thing does, and not every mainstream thing is good.)

It’s ridiculous to expect someone to stop developing as an artist – or trying to develop as an artist – just because they aren’t in their 20s anymore. If someone is a writer in their 30s or early 40s, they’re still considered a “young writer,” most of the time, but if they’re in music, and had a popular band, they’re washed up. This goes for both BC and JC. (& what about in the larger context of early 90s rock bands? If Cobain had followed a similar career trajectory to Corgan’s, would people be ripping on him incessantly instead of committing blatant acts of hagiography?)

I guess I’m glad I’m a writer and not a rock star.

But — even though I think I “got” it — I can’t explain BC’s blog post.

BlitzEn | 10/20/2007, 2:08 pm EST

Talk about the passion…
…it’s absent in Zeitgeist.

The melodic hooks of yesterday’s pumpkins are substituted with distortion overkill.

shane | 10/29/2007, 1:55 am EST

Whats wrong with god talking to you? Why must people bash religion as well as music? Some people will not like smashing pumpkins so be it. I for one love all his music.

Josee | 10/30/2007, 12:26 pm EST

One word can sum of Corgans thoughts…DRUGS.

1 | 10/30/2007, 6:52 pm EST

corgan is god

grez | 11/6/2007, 4:13 pm EST

he’s a machine of god

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3cents | 12/6/2007, 1:10 am EST

no, i don’t think its drugs. or his “crazy-ass self”. this is all just a guess but i wouldn’t be shocked if all the new-ageism he seemingly weaves in and out of is starting to take its toll. it does on everyone eventually, as is the purpose.
He’s a creative genius though, and seems very self aware as well. The latter alone, in the world we live in, is enough to feel disconnected. Maybe the point of the rambling lies somewhere in there. Connectedness to god, people, fans (who he claims not even to trust). The saddest part of all, i think, is the backlash based on the notion (knowingly or not) that God does not communicate with us.

Sertvfdnhgjk | 4/4/2008, 7:33 am EST

Приветствую всех!
У меня такой вопрос,кто что интересное подскажет буду признателен.
Мы с друзьями собираемся поехать в круиз по просторам России и ближнего зарубежья месяца на два на своих машинах,но не как не можем согласовать маршрут,если у кого уже был опыт такого путешествия,может,что посоветуете.Девчонок с собой не берем,думаем,что во все городах России с этим не будет проблем,если у кого будут рекомендации и в вопросе отдыха с девушками тоже буду признателен.

С уважением Сеньчик

a black guy loves thepumpkins! | 4/28/2008, 1:21 am EST

im a black guy and i love smashing pumpkins!

simple as that!

Garfopelffuro | 8/16/2008, 5:18 am EST

every now seen, but at no duration fleshy pods like the run-of-the-move about

bob | 11/4/2008, 4:08 pm EST

billy corgan is a worm, a hypocrite who believes his own bs. Don’t be fooled by him all he wants is your money not your love. He could care less about you just buys his next itunes release and pay for a new chandelier for his mansion in highland park. talking trash about everyone else, it’s always someone else fault huh billy?

karma, let’s see where your takes you.

Ranteeneedo | 11/8/2008, 9:18 pm EST

HI

FormerFan | 2/24/2009, 2:12 am EST

Corgan is to Rock, what Michael Jackson is to pop. He was once great but HE is his biggest fan. He gets upset when fans want to hear his older songs but can you blame them? He’s really lost his mind.

robert | 5/3/2009, 1:08 pm EST

ive been following this smashing pumpkins things since the first reunion news. I was a big fan of them, loving gish, siamese,mcatis, parts of adore and the singles of machina. even tho that album’s production was terrible. Heck i even like pisces arriot, while being b sides and rarities, it plays like a normal album and i love most of the stuff on it. Zeitgeist production is bad, the lyrics are weak, the songs are badly written and production is even more terrible then machina. The fact is i do not need to hear the same stuff as early to mid ninetees but i would have loved good songstructures which are not the case on zeitgeist. I dont hear passion in the songs, his voice mellowed out in a not good way. After seeing more then one live show this is just the name of a band that rocked out, mellowed out, freaked out live but nowadays gives waaaayyyy to much time to the singer/songwriter to play acoustic stuff. The fact is that even if they didnt have credits of writing the old members did have a say and passion for the songs they played. When times were bad in the band they reacted playing aggressively, when good vibes we saw it and they played with enthiousiam. These new people cant say anything i think cuz all we need is love (as billy would propably say). as someone who has played in more band then one i can honestly say that you write and play as hard, soft or melodic as you think is possible with the people you play with. B.C even stated himself he doesnt practise with his members as much as he used to do. So while every songwriter will say he wrote the song, songs get build and broken down and build up again in the rehearsel room. He hasnt got it anymore cuz he has only yes sayers around him who will play it exactly how he told them. This means all of their own wont be heard which was simply not the case in the older days. they talked/fought, played his songs but added their own to it. Just check out any live performance from the beginning to the farewell tour in 2000. even melisa auf der mauer added something unique. The new members how good they control their instrument dont add anything to the band. The rock n roll machine (and again the sweet pop machine as it was at the same time)is no more. It is simple as that. He needs the name, cuz he thinks its all him, while anyone knows it is and was not. It was a band of four people, which turned to two (cuz yes i considered melissa a true band member then as well) but even those two were allready one. If he really considered this a band he would have had way more interviews with them all. This would never have been a problem if he had chosen to keep going with his solo stuff or zwan or heck, another band, but he didnt cuz he IS the smashing pumpkins. Th ething is i do understand why he did so. I do think he tried to get the old sparkle back and i even think he realises that it didnt happen. I do think he does not know why it is not happenening. And i think above gives the answer. The band was a band. Nowadays the band is billy. No one can do it all by himself, while he is trying to do exactly that….

Anonymous | 6/26/2009, 8:39 pm EST

i don’t understand what is up with billy corgan and his born-again rants.
i think the older SP albums are better (adore in particular). hauntingly bittersweet -and at the same time i find that the nostalgic memory of the “old” smashing pumpkins album to be even more special to me. i can’t wait to listen to the new album..regardless of all the negative stuff being said.

Lauren R | 6/26/2009, 8:42 pm EST

i don’t understand what is up with billy corgan and his born-again rants.
on a positive note: yes, i think the older SP albums are better (adore in particular) their sounds are hauntingly bittersweet..
more importantly, i find that the nostalgic memory of the “old” smashing pumpkins album to be even more special to me.
i look forward to the new album..regardless of all the negative criticism.

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