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Mastodon’s Brent Hinds’ VMAs Head Injury Due to Fight With System of a Down Bassist

9/21/07, 3:40 pm EST

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The head injury Mastodon guitarist Brent Hinds suffered MTV’s Video Music Awards weekend appears to have been caused by an altercation between Hinds, System of a Down bassist Shavo Odadjian and musician William Hudson. Initial reports indicated Hinds was jumped, but hotel-security footage and eyewitness reports now reveal that the singer was drunk when he encountered Odadjian and Hudson outside the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino (coincidentally, the site of this year’s Rock ‘n’ Roll Fantasy Camp). According to a police report the Las Vegas Weekly cites, Hinds was the instigator and allegedly took off his shirt and hit Odadjian with it, then punched Hudson in the face and chest. After initially trying to calm Hinds, Odadjian and Hudson punched him in the head, resulting in Hinds’ severe injuries: brain hemorrhaging, a broken nose and pair of black eyes. No charges have been filed yet, but the Vegas police report lists Hudson as a “suspect” who faces possible charges of battery with substantial bodily harm, and refers to Odadjian as a “witness.” A representative for Hinds, who was apparently released from University Medical Center of Southern Nevada last Friday, issued this statement to Pitchfork: “Brent has begun writing and wants to just put all this past him for the moment.” Mastodon was in Vegas for a VMAs performance with Foo Fighters and a crew of their pals including Josh Homme and SOAD’s Serj Tankian. The show’s other major fight (Kid Rock Vs. Tommy Lee) led to police action, but no injuries.


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Gracie | 9/21/2007, 6:38 pm EST

Huh… I never liked System of A Down ’til now.

MervThe Perv | 9/21/2007, 9:36 pm EST

Mastodon=Overrated

Polce Line Up | 9/22/2007, 11:19 am EST

Aren’t the two men on the left wanted for a string of rapes in Texas?

Saltlick | 9/22/2007, 7:27 pm EST

VMAs must be jinxed this year.No spititual nourishment in a town fixated on greed.

Slowdown, Cowboy! | 9/23/2007, 2:03 pm EST

These guys are DIRTBAG SUPREMOS!

Anonymous | 9/23/2007, 2:35 pm EST

THAT’S a fucking story worthy of Rock and Roll Daily, not Britney Spears’ custody hearing. Drunken ass-kicking fucking rocks! The only thing missing is the neck of a broken beer bottle (a face-shredder) and an awesome disfiguring scar.

supersonic | 9/24/2007, 12:53 am EST

too bad they didn’t fuckin’ kill him.

Lenny Bruce | 9/24/2007, 1:01 am EST

Here’s some more nitwits who should be penciled in for an appointment with the angel of death!

Sammy | 9/24/2007, 8:24 am EST

I agree with Lenny Bruce, that funny mother fucker, that these assholes need to be terminated. This cheesy ass metal sucks my nuts. How the hell do you get wooped by someone in System of a Down anyway? Fucking mama’s boy.

Lenny Bruce | 9/24/2007, 1:31 pm EST

I am pretty funny, aren’t I?

Oh Beer | 9/24/2007, 1:50 pm EST

Has Bukowski gone on Holidays?This seems like the perfect subject for him to post on…Where are you?

Bukowski | 9/24/2007, 2:06 pm EST

Sorry, I’m late. I was busy smashing David Duchovny in the face with a metal garbage can lid.

These guys are an insult to real bar fighting. Maybe me and Hunter Thompson will fly up to vegas and teach ‘em a lesson!

Egon | 10/4/2007, 6:59 pm EST

You are all Nickelback loving idiots. Mastodon stomps your asses into the ground, don’t make me come over there. I suggest you put on Remission for a listen and lay off shaving your balls for a week.

Boris | 11/14/2007, 11:52 pm EST

MASTODON OWNS YOU QUEERS.

Jim "One Lung" Young | 11/27/2007, 3:11 am EST

Wow, you all need to get a life… and a blow-up doll…

LMAO | 2/3/2008, 1:06 am EST

stupid fuck deserved it! next time he’ll know not to be so stupid! lol fuck mastodon

wiiiiiiiiner man | 2/19/2008, 3:30 pm EST

haha that reminds me of the time i kicked brent hinds ass… haha that was a good night

FUCKYOU | 4/6/2008, 2:31 pm EST

Fuck all you guys who are claiming that mastodon is overrated and that Hinds deserved it. You just go and listen to your Good Charlotte albums and shave your balls while doing that, if you even have balls….

good taste | 4/22/2008, 1:14 pm EST

mastodon=underrated

SOAD fan | 5/4/2008, 1:53 am EST

haha..!
i always thought Shavo kicked ass, now i know he does…
fucking mastodon

God | 5/9/2008, 2:44 pm EST

Look guys,Nickleback and Good Charlotte have nothing to do with it. Yes they suck, but MAstadon sux more. SYSTEM RULES!
Christ out.

Cysquatch | 6/8/2008, 1:37 am EST

Wow… Some of you ACTUALLY think that system is better than Mastodon. Really?Kudos to Egon, Boris, and FUCKYOU. At least some people still listen to REAL music.

Everyone who is Pro-system here can take a ‘POGO,POGO,POGO’ and stick it. Brent was fucking drunk, and that’s ALL SHAVO AND HIS BUTT-BUDDY COULD DO?! Who’s the puss now? I guarentee you, everyone here who doesn’t listen to Mastodon is under the age of 14. That group tend to enjoy angsty, shit-filled music about drug trips. Great job sucking at life kiddies. You should consider quitting.

Ck | 6/17/2008, 1:40 pm EST

Both are good, but i prefer soad, and the dude got what he deserved for starting it.

Mastectomydon | 7/6/2008, 9:38 am EST

Is that a band photo or an Urban Outfitters ad?

Mastodown | 9/8/2008, 12:35 am EST

Mastodon=underrated. System=as good as rated

hinds fighting skills=overrAted

Mastodown | 9/8/2008, 12:35 am EST

Mastodon=underrated. System=as good as rated

hinds fighting skills=overrAted

MonsterPants | 9/18/2008, 6:44 pm EST

Cysquatch is right.
Mastodon kicks the shit out of System of a Down.

He’s also right about the under 14 thing.
Used to like SOAD.
I turned 15.
Mastodon Is my favorite band

sid | 10/7/2008, 9:40 pm EST

lol Cysquatch you obviously have no experience with alcohol. fighting a drunk is HARDER because the fuckers dont feel shit

imaginaryhero | 10/27/2008, 9:09 pm EST

is this story true? two of my favorite musicians in a fight? that is crazy. cant all the great players get along?

andre the small | 11/6/2008, 10:53 am EST

mastodon owns, put on some blood and thunder, and have your mind blown. SOAD BLOWS!

Sam | 1/2/2009, 3:26 am EST

I dont agree with starting a fight for no reason, even if it is Mastodon kicking System of a Down’s ass, but if you think system of a down is better than mastodon you obvoisly have had more to drink than hinds.

soad sucks mastodons balls | 1/26/2009, 8:11 pm EST

mastodon > soad

Cysquatch | 2/9/2009, 7:19 pm EST

In response to “sid”:

I’m not a dumbass, and I don’t pick fights with people who are drunk, or pick fights when I have been drinking. (So I don’t see how my comment could have led you to believe I don’t have experience with alcohol, but either way that was beside the point) I’ve read elsewhere that Brent was falling over… How hard could it have been to beat up Brent if he was on the ground? I mean, really…

But, My first comment was making 3 points.

1. Shavo sucks at fighting (even if the person he is fighting is falling down)

2. System of A Down sucks in general

3. Mastodon owns.

mastodon!! | 2/20/2009, 7:44 pm EST

mastodon is the best band ever!!

scarface | 3/11/2009, 7:52 pm EST

ok ok guy’s am a fan of shavo in the good old days butt MASTODON it’s audio masacre i love it, am sure suckers fucking army of fan’s of system doint even leasen well MASTODON sounds better butt i guess are a little kids fansfromhell am sure MASTODON play better sorry kids leasen better music dick’s

timber799 | 3/14/2009, 11:00 am EST

Soad=Great Mastadon=great
Im 15 and love both equally so cant we just get along?

timber799 | 3/14/2009, 11:01 am EST

Soad=Great Mastadon=great
Im 15 and love both equally so cant we just get along?

Lando Calreser | 3/22/2009, 10:57 pm EST

Really? Are we now picking sides of metal bands? When did this become a rap thing?

SOADs singer sounds like a goat herder. Good musically. Mastodon is prog metal at its best. Crack the Skye is amazing. Singing again is suspect. But at least they all can play. Serj….Im calling you out. I thought you guys were promoters of peace? The anti-war…anti-violence band? Anything for money I guess.

SEaBeast | 3/25/2009, 11:41 pm EST

Crack the Skye is amazing!
Brent needs handlers. His band mates need to protect one of the the greatest guitar players since Steve Howe, and greatest singers since Layne Staley.

classic30havoc | 3/26/2009, 9:40 pm EST

Mastadon owns. Case and point.

Anonymous | 4/2/2009, 3:41 am EST

I am a mastodon fan and I am not into system…
but hey its metal.no fight ..
it aint fuckin rap..

Seasons of Wrath | 4/7/2009, 12:25 pm EST

So, Brent was wasted. I’ve calmed down several drunk people without nearly killing them – after a while, they just give up and fall down. Looks like these guys saw an easy fight, but it still took two of them. They know who Mastodon is, this wasn’t some random drunk guy that crawled out of a dumpster, he’s one of the greatest guitarists that ever lived.

the_fade | 4/8/2009, 11:04 am EST

God knows how people can think SOAD is better than mastodon have you heard any of the album. come on each one is a masterpiece and shavo and nick hudson are fucking pussys two on one isnt fair at all shows just how much they are scared of Mr. Hinds and what he would do to them if were just one on one.

MIKKIFOX | 4/10/2009, 4:52 pm EST

SOAD sucked before and they suck now. The head injury caused Brent to write one of the best metal album to date. IN YER FACE!

just some kid | 4/11/2009, 4:15 am EST

i heard that the soad bassist only hit him, and when he fell he got all the damage from hitting a curb?

mosul | 4/11/2009, 5:35 pm EST

I like both bands, but music has nothing to do with this. It was just three (relatively large) kids who didn’t know how to solve a situation without someone getting almost killed. Pathetic, someone could say.

Anonymous | 4/12/2009, 5:15 am EST

Alright so what. A drunk moron and two ppl they were all in the wrong yes I agree. There where many ways it could have been solved, without injury. And what the fuck is with you all hating on system of a down seriously i love them both system is my fav but mastadon is good to. i believe you don’t like system because they’re actually intelligant human beings a social and pollitical ppl wanting world peace. well at least serj is. dont hate what you dont get.

RAWWWR | 4/12/2009, 9:35 am EST

In my opinion SOAD are better than Mastodon.
Did you guys see that.. OPINION!!!!!
Don’t go saying bands are shit ‘cos it’s all down to personal choice. If System are so fucking terrible then why are they successful!?
Everyone has different tastes and some people actually like them so stfu with all the bullcrap ‘cos lets face it. Both bands are equally good. One isn’t better than the other, they’re the same. I don’t give a toss if you don’t bother reading this, respectful people will.
Everyone just need to grow up.

RAWWWR | 4/12/2009, 9:37 am EST

I wrote that last comment wrong. I now realise I contradict myself.

The first line should say:
My opinion is that I prefer SOAD to Mastodon.

Workhorse | 4/16/2009, 10:57 pm EST

hey if he hadn’t got wasted and fell on that curb we wouldn’t have Crack The Skye, for those that like Mastodon. He was in a coma for a while and when he woke up he had all these crazy ideas for the album.

Geo | 4/24/2009, 10:26 pm EST

Wow, some of the fuckin’ comments here disgust me. No, Brent does not deserve do die, no, System of a Down does not suck, it is a matter of opinion, and I’m pretty sure most of you wouldn’t fight too good drunk either…

Sean | 4/25/2009, 1:38 am EST

Simply put, when you’re drunk, you’re drunk. It seems as though Brent and the others realized this afterwards and handled the situation maturely from that point on. But seriously, who hasn’t done stupid shit when they’re drunk?

Brigglishness | 5/16/2009, 5:01 am EST

both bands are good and have something to offer. so Hinds fucked up and did something stupid while drunk. who hasn’t?

at least he didn’t die LOL

soad fuckin sux | 5/18/2009, 2:27 pm EST

soad fuckin sux
soad fuckin sux
soad fuckin sux
soad fuckin sux
soad fuckin sux
soad fuckin sux
soad fuckin sux
soad fuckin sux
soad fuckin sux
soad fuckin sux
soad fuckin sux

blastbeat | 5/22/2009, 12:01 pm EST

ive always hated system of a down, their political stances are f**ked to say the least. now im british before it all goes off. system of a down ‘hate’ the coutry that has provided them with sanctuary from whatever atrocities where in their home country if they dont like the states why dont they just go back to where they came from? plus their musics crap any way. i for one are greatful they’ve split up and all side projects went to pot. where as crack the skye is the best album evere made. PERIOD.

BubbA StEvE LaRiZ | 5/24/2009, 12:40 am EST

Shitstem of a Dung SUCKS ASS!
Wish I couldve been there to back brent up LOL fuck those guys,I hope Brent wont let that get to him,i mean it took 2 of them!

Sammy51018 | 5/29/2009, 12:25 pm EST

I hate soad if i were there Shavo and Hudson would be dead

pellet | 6/14/2009, 8:42 am EST

meh
meh meh
they should have just incapacitated the drunk mastadon dude, if they were better fighters no one would have had to be injured.

starvin'-marvin' | 6/15/2009, 5:40 pm EST

i’ll give it to soad, they won the fight…but mastodon wins the war of musicians

System | 8/13/2009, 2:40 pm EST

why are you all fighting?
each person likes their own type of music.
i’d say it was both of their faults.
Hinds starting it, and Shavo reacting.
but that’s my opinion.

System | 8/13/2009, 2:40 pm EST

why are you all fighting?
each person likes their own type of music.
i’d say it was both of their faults.
Hinds starting it, and Shavo reacting.
but that’s my opinion.

System | 8/13/2009, 2:40 pm EST

why are you all fighting?
each person likes their own type of music.
i’d say it was both of their faults.
Hinds starting it, and Shavo reacting.
but that’s my opinion.

ani | 8/31/2009, 5:34 pm EST

just so you know, this article is oncorrect, shavo witnessed the event as he was hanging with hudson, who hit hinds.

ani | 8/31/2009, 5:35 pm EST

*incorrect,,, sorry 4 the typo

axidswitch | 9/22/2009, 4:24 am EST

some of system’s songs have lyrical value and most have very textured sound…good.mastodon brings both together more artistically and w/ more musical skill, be honest. it’s not easy being a musician and under the pressure of creation, so both bands should get equal respect, in that aspect. violence proves lack of growth, needless to say, and i’m sure after the incident, all of them grew a little from the experience. fin

whiskey6 | 9/23/2009, 6:10 am EST

wow,most of you guys are preteen cocksuckers jerkin it to hanna montana vids in your moms basement…
look systems first album wasnt bad but everything after fuckin blew. as for mastodon they are amazing. leave brent be, look im a serious drinker and musician ive been knocked out before its not hard after 9 shots. but at least he is still doing what he loves which none of you are probably doing because your too busy cryin about how mommy’s new boyfriend just blew a load on your fall out boy T shirt that you got at hot topic this morning… do us all a favor and GET FUCKED!!!

soadmastodon | 10/13/2009, 4:11 am EST

soad and mastodon both pwn in their own way, from what i hear all 3 members were intoxicated and hinds even more so, 3 drunks+smack talk=OWNAGE

kickboxer | 10/28/2009, 12:33 am EST

I’m a kick boxer so I know a thing or two about getting hit and you have to get hit pretty hard to get an injury like that. My guess is they T’d of on Hinds.
-In response to everyone hating on SOAD, go ahead. I’ve also been a Musician/percussion instructor for ten years now playing in a metal band for five of those ten years. Plus i’ve taught damn near ever decent song SOAD ever wrote. Mastodon can play circles around SOAD. Whether you like SOAD or not is beside the point. They really are terrible musicians. I’m talkin’ worse than Green Day here…

ThePig | 11/6/2009, 9:08 am EST

“I’m a kick boxer so I know a thing or two about getting hit and you have to get hit pretty hard to get an injury like that. My guess is they T’d of on Hinds.”

Stick to kick boxing, you obviously aren’t a doctor. So tell us, how hard does a drunk have to get hit to fall backwards and hit his head? hmmmmm. Not very, if at all.

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