Eddie you ignorant slut… if we want social commentary with our music we’ll go see Bono. At least he’s semi-intelligent.

eddie has always spoke his mind and i don’t always agree, but sometimes i do ..pearljam is still the greatest american live act .if you don’t believe me check them out you won’t be disappointed…

The most important thing about this incident may be that it is creating a dialog about the issue. If we really claim to be a free society, then we should be appalled at the thought of the media censoring us when we speak out against our government. Once that happens we lose what this country was founded on. There is absolutely no questiont that AT&T did this on purpose. They have done this same type of censoring of political comments by artists. They let countless F-Bombs go, but they mute this. How much more obvious can you be?

Boo!

Bill O’Reilly’s heading for Mexico. Ed, you done kicked up a shitstorm. I swear VG, I have nothing to do with this!

Dear Ed, don’t say I didn’t warn you. But a guy who goes by the name of Van Gogh’s gonna open up a can o’ whoop ass on you! Be afraid, be very afraid!!!

It’s funny how a drunken rock star can make a mockery of freedom of the press and claim the high moral ground as a champion of the freedom of the press at the same time. But that’s how things are done when you’re a liberal whacko venting your pure hatred for George Bush. Eddie Vedder gets a free pass from the liberal media.
A little background is in order to understand this. Eddie Vedder and his band Pearl Jam played Lollapalooza last Sunday night. At one point he began preaching his hatred of George Bush during a cover of Pink Floyd’s “Another Brick in the Wall.” The improvised lyrics “George Bush, leave this world alone” and “George Bush, find yourself another home” were inserted into the Pink Floyd song, which fittingly also includes the line “We don’t need no education.”
Liberals have long advocated using educators for social engineering so it is appropriate that the liberal hate-filled lyrics were used in a song that advocates replacing education with propaganda. Liberals have slowly destroyed America’s education system by using it for their social engineering platform while also claiming that it’s more important for students to ‘feel good about themselves’ than learn in a competitive environment. I wonder if the irony is lost on Eddie Vedder? Considering he was repeatedly swilling from a wine bottle during the band’s set, he’s probably in a constant drunken haze too thick for him to notice.
It was also nice of Eddie to share his wine with fans near the front of the stage. A little wine must surely help the propaganda go down smoother. Considering many of the fans were not of legal age to drink, and many were under 18, it’s a wonder he can get away with sharing his wine, but I clearly saw it on video of the set. If I had shared alcohol with a minor, I might be in jail now, but celebrities are usually above the law so I’m sure the Chicago Police Department will not be investigating Eddie for contributing to the delinquency of a minor or child abuse or any such thing. Eddie gets a pass again.
AT&T was broadcasting a live webcast of the Pearl Jam set and supposedly censored Eddie’s anti-Bush lyrics. According to the band, on www.pearljam.com, “This, of course, troubles us as artists but also as citizens concerned with the issue of censorship and the increasingly consolidated control of the media.” This is where I say WHAT?
I was at Lollapalooza to photograph the event for a magazine, and I was shocked by Pearl Jam’s heavy-handed treatment of the photo-journalists. Whereas every other band allowed us to photograph, Pearl Jam only allowed 20 hand-picked photographers to photograph them. Eliminated from the chosen few were photographers with wire services who might get wide distribution of images.
Even after making the cut, the chosen photographers were forced to sign a photo release stating that they would only use the images in the one publication they were shooting the event for. If that was not humiliating enough, these photographers were also forced to wear a large yellow armband with the word “photo” identifying themselves as one of the chosen few. I guess the band wanted to be able to look down in the pit and see photographers identified much like a fascist ruler might label a dissident.
The chosen photographers were allowed to photograph only 3 songs from behind demarcation lines on either side of the photo pit only. Any photographer crossing the demarcation line would be immediately ejected from the festival. Pearl Jam did not want any photographers in the center of the pit. Only the band knows why.
The real news though was when Ben Harper joined Pearl Jam for a duet and when Dennis Rodman had Eddie Vedder on his shoulders at the end. But the free press was not allowed to photograph that. However, Kevin Mazur was allowed to photograph those scenes for Wireimage, a photo agency with a history of cutting deals with bands in exchange for exclusive coverage. You can see the images at www.wireimage.com labeled as “exclusive coverage.”
Kevin Mazur and Wireimage has done this before as part of Kevin’s strategy for building Wireimage’s reputation in the entertainment news industry. Kevin is well-known in the industry as a heavy-handed paparazzi and has cut these sort of deals with other bands, ensuring that he gets exclusive photos from the pit while other photographers must photograph from farther back. After building up Wireimage’s reputation, and debt, the agency was bought by Getty Images (www.gettyimages.com).
Getty images is the largest paparazzi agency in the US, and a few years ago bought Imagedirect, another paparazzi agency that was at one time Wireimage’s chief competition. The latest deal had Getty buying Wireimage and Filmmagic (www.filmmagic.com) and keeping them as separate boutique paparazzi agencies so they would be able to get more of their photographer into events under different outlets, thus shutting out other photographers from other wire services and magazines.
Now you know why it is a bit disingenuous for Pearl Jam to decry the “increasingly consolidated control of the media.” By allowing Kevin Mazur to get exclusive images for the largest media image conglomerate in the US, the band is only contributing to the problem they publicly object to. Any time you see an image credited to Getty, Wireimage or Filmmagic, you can rest assured that it’s another nail in the coffin of the free press. I wonder if Eddie Vedder’s education included learning the meaning of the word hypocrite.
Hypocrisy is nothing new to Eddie though. On the way out of Lollapalooza I was handed a poster for a movie called “Into The Wild.” I talked to the person handing out the poster and found out she worked for Paramount Pictures and was handing the posters out at Lollapalooza (along with some co-workers) to promote the movie because Eddie Vedder’s first solo album would be the soundtrack for the movie.
The movie poster stated “screenplay and directed by Sean Penn.” Sean Penn is another famous person known for Bush bashing. Sean recently befriended Hugo Chavez, a fascist dictator in Venezuela who recently curbed freedom of the press in Venezuela. No wonder then that Eddie and Sean are friends; they both advocate hatred, fascism, and destruction of freedom of the press.
It does not really matter to Eddie though. As long as he is bashing Bush (and he has a history of doing that, including performing on the Vote for Change Tour during the last election campaign, and strutting around a stage with the President (in effigy) impaled on a stick at a Denver show before that), he will continue to be a darling of the liberal press and will continue to feel like an elite person with a right to preach his hatred to the public, without a need to be accountable or justify his beliefs. He is one of the beautiful people, leading the biggest Nazi-punk band of the decade.
If Eddie had his way, Bush would be censored. I prefer the American way (freedom Eddie) and would not censor somebody just because I hate them like Eddie does. Eddie is free to have his own opinion too and I am happy that I am able to write about his hypocrisy.

freepressforeddie.blogspot.com /

last attempt

sorry, that should be: see
http://freepressforeddie. blogspot.com/ for the rest of the story

In addition to the most recent censorship issue with Pearl Jam, AT&T’s Blue Room webcast bleeped the sound during performances by the Flaming Lips and the John Butler Trio at the Bonnaroo Festival in Tennessee in June.

A public forum on Butler’s site, at www.johnbutlertrio.com, includes a discussion among fans about several audio gaps during a spoken introduction to the song “Gov Did Nothin’,” which included references critical of the government’s response to Hurricane Katrina.

A representative for the Flaming Lips said the band had received reports from fans of some corruption of the webcast of its Bonnaroo set but added that the band had not been able to review the specifics as of Friday afternoon and would not comment.

This is a full on pattern of abuse. Please investigate to see if you can uncover additional instances of abuses by the media. We all need to pay attention, and call them out!

wade,
It probably bothers you a lot more than it bothers the celebrities who speak out.

Celebrities have every right to voice their opinion. And we have every right to voice ours against them. They become so sensitive when the venom is pointed back at them.

p.s. Sean Penn is a spoiled Beverly Hills idiot. But thats just my opinion.

If I walk up to you and insist that you broadcast (in the abstract sense) what I say, then insist that this country is fascist because you only choose to broadcast some of what I say, would you agree? Of course not. You are entitled to broadcast whatever you want.

Net neutrality is a joke, and is anything but. It takes the very real and worthwhile idea of keeping the internet content-unregulated, and twists it into another power grab by the government.

No, the real problem with the net is that the government has given handouts to the telcos to build the infrastructure and then those telcos abuse what they’ve been given. If government had been kept out of it in the first place, the mess of different groups trying to gobble up more control of the internet would have been much less problematic. If the government hadn’t favored certain lobbying interests(I’m all sure you are familiar with AT&T and bell souths escapades with the fcc) the competition and growth of all things communications related would have been in the hands of the market. If such legislation were passed, Kevin Martin would be very pleased. He and the rest of his sick degenerates (given their power as political favors I might add) at the fcc have been playing all the sides of the game for years, making a lot of their buddies in the telco game jump through hoops to get their support but this would be their dream come true. A foot in the door of a whole new domain to regulate.

Summarizing, net neutrality advocates make a good point realizing how much control the few entities that own it possess, but then make the mistake of given government that control. It trades one master for another. K

Re: re: John Train | 8/10/2007, 10:52 am EST

“Nice point on the dummy fans of these acts. Nothing against Pearl Jam, though I’m not nor have never been a fan, but their fanbase strikes me as White Male Frat-Boy-the base of the Republicans.”

Did it ever occur to you that not all Pearl Jam fans are male, and not all of their fans are American?

Come on, you supposed ‘hetero’ boys know Zack is hot and you’d let him lick you.
Look at those delicious lips and tongue!
sluuuuurp!

It’s called Rock and Roll NOT Face the Nation

If it were not for this current prez, what would else would a lot of these bands sing about? How ’bout an album about global warming????

The fact that Eddie gets people worked up is great. John Train, go listen to your yuppie music and watch Friends. It must irk you that PJ are still around when you wanted them to go away like your favorite bands have.

Jesus, are we gonna have to look at that Zac Efron dude everytime we log on to this website? Damn, I hate having to come on here and see pretty boy on my screen all giggly like he just discovered girls or something.

Nice point on the dummy fans of these acts. Nothing against Pearl Jam, though I’m not nor have never been a fan, but their fanbase strikes me as White Male Frat-Boy-the base of the Republicans. BTW isn’t it a little weird how many Republicans are deviantly Gay? At least the Gay Democrats can face themselves.
Anyway, back to Republicans and art. One tell tale to watch for is when someone says that the artist should ’stick to their art and stop opining.’ What the f*ck is that? Tells me that they are divining only what they get off on and missing the big picture or meaning of the art from the perspective of the artist. It’s quite sad, but sure to get worse thanks to the arts being slashed in the schools.

Just goes to show that most Pearl Jam fans are republican. They listen to this yuppie crap. I dont care how many cool bands open for them, people who relate to shows like “Friends” listen to them an get their panties in a bunch whenever Vedder makes anti Bush comments…if you are so tough, then you can take criticism from the 90’s Teen Beat poster boy!

Hey Randy

I can’t believe there are still people who stick up for Bush. That’s like saying a rotting corpse is very much alive, well & kicking.

i really doubt they censored it because everyone knows its cool now to say bad things about the president

bowieno… You write like a moron. Your grammar, spelling and syntax simply give anti-Bush politics strength, rather than giving you any form of an argument.

Kevron has a very good point. All the great artists of the 60s and 70s were politically active, yet nobody criticized them. However, today’s artists are constantly criticized for their beliefs. Why is that?

This war and administration are a disgrace, and artists like EV are doing their job as citizens. Ever wonder why all the talented musicians are against Bush? Simply put, they have a social conscience. In the process, they are also churning out great music.

Pearl Jam are legends, and they have always been politically involved. It’s kind of hard not to in this day and age.

Oh, so YOU’RE God? This is truly,truly disappointing.

Has Eddie Vedder brought anything NEW to the debate? No, he’s just regurgitating ideas from roads that have been very well travelled. And I’m not a consevative; I’ve just heard this all before.

It’s amazing how so many fear free speech and yet they’re the 1st ones to say that’s what the soldiers are fighting for. If one doesn’t expext Eddie to say anything political then they’re obviously not PJ fans. Why is it that so many feel threatened with an opposing viewpoint? So ignorant America is. Most couldn’t even pass a basic geography test in USA. Politics is simply a legalized version of organized crime. Anyone who expects change to come about by politicians is not a student of history. Politicians are there for the money and power and NOTHING ELSE. The Senate only works 90 days out of the year. Their pensions alone will be more than most will make in a lifetime. Next election the names & faces will change but nothing else. Evil is evil. Seek Truth and THE TRUTH will find you.

To anyone who is bitching about Eddie, You have got to be kidding me… first off we as Americans have the right to freedom of speech, second if you dont agree with the bands views then just listen to the music and enjoy it but you should know by now that Eddie will speak his mind whenever he feels like it and thats part of the glory of Pearl Jam, they have the balls to tell the president whens he has stepped over the line or made a mistake even when the president doesnt have the balls to admit it….

[”cletus”, Hey there buddy,just to help save you from more emberasment, this is a discussion for poeple with IQ’s above 2 and/or poeple with an education above the fourth grade.]

Seriously! Do poeple still compare this Clinton/Lewinsky-blow job business, to what Bush and his puppeteers have done ? WTF !?

Sprint would’nt do a thing like that to pearl jam.

The question anyone who does not live off of mommy or daddy, or from the public tit has to ask is, are you better off now than you were under Clinton? I know of no one other than the ultra rich who could ever answer “yes”. I find it amusing that in comparing the two administrations, all the neocons can think of is the Lewisky affair. Somehow, that was an impeachable offense and yet, no democrat has had the gumption to get up and bring such proceedings against Bush and Cheney, who have continually lied to the people about 9/11, Saddam, Iraq, Plame and so much more. Where are the “liberals”? They’re part of the problem, too.

As for Sean Penn, old bean, he went down to New Orleans to help in relief efforts. He went to Iraq to see for himself. He has balls, something more than anyone in the Bush neocon cabinet ever had, as they were seeking deferments, chasing skirts and doing coke, instead.

To the people who say shut up and sing, would you say the same thing to John Lennon or Bob Dylan back in the day. We are in a time of War and liberal artists will speak out. If you are going to support a worthless war and president DEAL WITH THE CRITICISM.

Not many top-selling music acts have much to say these days, but Pearl Jam has actual content to their songs. Good for them.

If ATT won’t replay the music the way it was intended to be heard, then they shouldn’t air it at all. It wasn’t foul language or anything lued. Shame on them for being such pussies.

all you liberels seem to forget about clintin who lied to the cuontry about luinsky
gorge w has the lord on his side
he keeps us from terrorists
get a clue poeple

4 more years for bush

I think Sen. Ross Feingold had the right idea. We should censor President Bush, not artists who are expressing themselves.

bowieno, Pearl Jam refusing to sell their records to certain customers would be, at best, impossible to enforce.

However, their most recent record is pretty political, enough so that a Bush supporter would likely not enjoy listening to it.

Sort of a tacit way of discouraging the people he disagrees with from buying PJ albums.

I don’t like ush or Cliton. Don’t kid yourselves they are all power Mongers. It’s the structure of Capitolisim. But if Pearl Jam had any Balls they ask that anyone who supported the administration or voted for Bush not to buy their records. The fact that PJ/Vedder accepts Money from people who supported the War and The Administration makes them even Bigger Sell out Fools in my eyes - you can’t have it both ways- sell outs cowards. Go into your celebratey homes (MTV Cribbs) and watch your plasma screens and complain about the world-puke! The fact that Sean Penn and them can still have their I hate Bush Circle Jerks and collect that money is sickening!

Also, what’s with the “shut up and be a musician” thing? Are politicians the only people who can express their political opinions? I’m an engineer, and if I say something political and you respond with “shut up and engineer” you’d sound like an absolute moron. Same for this situation. That’s why we live in a democracy, so everyone has a say. Everyone has the right to say what they think, just because you’re a musician doesn’t mean that’s all you do, and if you think that’s all they should be doing, you’re an idiot.

stop arguing and go do something fun, THEN come back and argue more…….keeps our debate fresh

I love Eddie, I agree with him on Bush and I think AT&T is shitty for doing this, but it’s their right. AT&T has every right to do whatever they want with servers, man-hours, bandwidth, and equipment that they pay for. The decision not to provide Eddie with a soapbox to stand on is neither a Net Neutrality issue nor a violation of his first amendment rights.

If AT&T had broadcast the stream unedited and the version that appeared here in New Orleans had been altered by the cable company, Cox, THAT would be a Net Neutrality issue.

John, controlling the media has been important in all of this. Look at FOX News. Look at the rip and read whatever they say reporters at CNN. Painting the Vedders and Sean Penns as being loose cannons is important, as well.
It’s no surprise to me that AT&T would do such a thing. Corporations equal big money, and big money owns Bush and Cheney.
Dissent is a good thing. Actually demanding change is the natural result.
We’ll see.

Dear hotactioncop,

If nobody is going to speak out, then who will? Eddie Vedder has every right to speak up - it’s called freedom of speech. He is raising awareness and promoting “peace”. If you choose to remain silent, then you’re just like one of the sheep herds who conveniently ignores everything. Wake up.

Seems a little fascist to me, you know considering that an election was stolen/rigged. Oh yea, and habeus corpus has essentially been suspended for american citiczens, and oh yea, lets not forget the “patroit act” which essentially allows the government to spy on you and moniter your actions for little to no reason. but yes, land of the free and home of the, ur…. blind indifference. yes. this country is in dire trouble people. FIGHTING AMONG OURSELVES IS A MAJOR PART OF THE PROBLEM. WE ALL NEED TO LEARN TO LIVE WITH EACHOTHER, cause its america, the place where all that is in theory supposed to happen. our divisions are killing our country.

Actions, I’ve always voted. Not until the election of 2000–when the Supreme Court overruled the American people–and 2004–when voting irregularities in Ohio made the election suspect–did I think the entire process was skewed. This isn’t to say that democrats are the answer but rather, the average American has been forgotten.
By and for the people?
And it’s true. We need more Eddie’s to wake people the fuck up.

Let me get this straight, “Johnny”. Elections get rigged, political enemies are “outed”, erroneous conclusions that lead to the deaths of over 3,000 American troops are pushed at all costs, the plight of Americans in low income areas ravaged by hurricanes are ignored and again, those that question or point out the facts are called “Un-American”. They are said to aid terrorists by a president who hid from duty in the Texas Air Guard and a “VP” who had multiple deferments.
Just who are you trying to fool?

That to me, is the exact problem with our society today. People just want to be entertained. The U.S. has turned into the entertainment capital of the world. We live in a society where, if we really wanted to, we could completely ignore what’s going on in the world around us, and not even feel the effects of those things.

With cable T.V. and internet… you don’t have to watch or read what’s going on globally or locally.

I know a guy that didn’t even know about the attacks on 9/11 the entire first day that it happened. I was like “Dude, are you serious?!? You didn’t hear about that?!?” He was like “I don’t listen to the radio, I listen to my iPod.” Then I was like “It was on every local news channel, didn’t you see it on T.V.?!?” And he said “I was watching cartoons.”

“Just shut up and sing.”

Dang… everyone wants to ignore the issues at hand.

I think its great so many of you have an opinion on the political state in the U.S. Everyone has an opinion or theory and of course lots of little facts. but i ask you this…how many of you got off your self-righteous ass and voted. how many of you used your greatest power/voice? If you don’t vote…your opinoin is a bunch of hot-air! Yes…. I voted…..and lost.

From the “if you critique the current administration, you are aiding terrorists” stream of unconsciousness comes another pearl of wisdom.

What mindless fucks the Bush crowd are.

George Bush may be an awful president, that doesn’t mean the U.S. is a fascist state. Even Noam Chomsky, for fks sake, has said “Of course the U.S. isn’t a fascist state”

People who claim things like “U.S.=Nazi Germany!!” are just uneducated idiots.

I am big Pearl Jam fan, praise be to Allah!

Cockroach, you need to crawl back under that rock where you came from. Bush and Cheney may be diabolical, totalitarian, profiteering maniacs, but advocating their assassination is somewhat akin to what John Lennon used as an answer in “Revolution”: when you talk about destruction, don’t you know that you can count me out.
That’s not the solution.
Pearl Jam’s generation of fans are our only hope in this country. The baby boomers have become fat, bloated, and apathetic. Thanks God for Eddie Vedder. He’s a real throwback to patriots who were proven correct in their musical heyday–Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Buffalo Springfield, Airplane….

Wow, a bunch of ignorant fools here, and of all places, on a music website. You people should be the intelligent ones and realize what actually took place at Lollapalooza instead of making jack-assed commentary about something that you didn’t experience.
First of all, 200,000+ some odd fans were all going nuts when this was going on. Loved it, and personally, so did I. GW is a plague that has infected our once great country, and for gods sake, if no one else speaks up, then who will? Influencial artists like PJ are there to make an impact like this. Their voices are heard and have the power to change things in the world. More power to um for keeping a level head throughout.
Second, is anyone aware that all of PJ’s albums that they sell in the cheap recycled brown cd cases of their live tours, every penny goes to rainforest preservation, they arent even profitting anymore off touring, they dont need the money. SO hate on crap like Panic at the disco, its all self serving garbage.
Second, Lollapalooza was running a Save the Lake charity all weekend that I think PJ or Perry Ferrell set up to combat what IS actually going on in Lake Michigan. WHomever said it up top was right, BP/Amaco, stationed in portage, indiana i believe is illegally dumping mercury into Lake Michigan, totally fucking up the ecosystem. Making jokes about the environment isnt funny anymore, cause our world is legitamately funked up. All Vedder said was “all you have to do is drive to the next gas station” no one was saying anything crazy like dont buy gas blah blah blah, just dont buy from BP cause they are killing YOUR LAKE.
PJ haters, you’re all probably lame to begin with and your musical tastes are im sure questionable at best. I just spent 3 days in chicago at Lolla, and it was the time of my life. I love PJ and I love Eddie Vedder and I love Lollapalooza.

Everyone telling eddie to STFU, i have one question.
If he shuts up and doesnt speak about an issue like this that the public in large part is unaware of, then who the hell is going to speak up? HUH? i dont see any of you out there with a bullhorn doing something positive for the world.

“Hot action cops” are outdated and lame.

I was there and it was a great concert. Some people like that Eddie speaks his mind and some people hate it. I believe in freedom of speech, and I think Bush is a horrible person/president. But in the end I was there to listen to some great music and that is what I got. Pearl Jam did thier job.

Hey Cockroach — Enjoy your well-deserved visit from the FBI.

NOT FOR YOU!

Why did that Virginia Tech killer shoot up the university and killed innocent students and faculty when he could have been considered a hero if he went to the White House and assassinated Bush and Cheney?

Bush is almost a lame duck president at this point, attacking him is outdated and lame.

Rockstar70, you need an Ænima.

Telling anyone to shut up and sing is the ugliest, most ignorant thing I have ever heard.

For all of you hating on PJ and Vedder. Stop listening to them if you don’t F**king like it.
He has a right to express just like you hypocrites!!!
Either turn it up or turn it off..

Eddie Vedder is a TOOL. If you want to change the world run for president, if you want to remain a musician then shut up and sing BITCH!!

i understand everyone’s love for music and YES they are musicians, you want to hear them sing not talk about politics, but who better to hear these things from then the people who made your life better through music. and if you cant be smart enough to understand that musicians seem like some of the few people who actually have the balls to say the truth these days, then fuck off.

Who cares?
Pearl Jam Sucks anyway.

bush is a dick

Keep the politics to yourself wanker! I don’t care about your point of view. Shut up AND SING!

“-just replace Muslim w/ Christian and its scary how close they are”

ummm, I think about 1.5 billion Muslims would disagree with you, likewise for the 2.1 billion or so Christians out there. Also, i think about 99.9% of each religion’s constituent would be offended by your “enemy” reference

Hey Claude - your description is very similar to the republican party - just replace Muslim w/ Christian and its scary how close they are. I guess the enemy really is within.

A casual fan of PJ but sure as hell like their views and they deserve every right to speak them in public, on the web, etc. Bush, Cheney & their cronies are the worst swill in history as far as the USA is concerned! No other Prez has been such a scumbag! Can’t wait for 1/20/09 !!!!!

Paraphrasing James Joyce’s Ulysses, Jefferson Airplane had it right on “Last Wall of the Castle” when they sang “War’s good business, so give your son, and I’d rather have my country die for me.” Pearl Jam rocks. The last time the government broke up AT&T, some one should have driven a stake through its corporate heart…instead the pieces just re-assmbled…

Just so everyone knows, Eddie’s “political” rant was against BP for dumping mercury, ammonia, sludge, and cyanide into Lake Michigan, the world’s second largest freshwater body. That’s the most noble cause I’ve ever heard. Forget the censorship thing for a second and help Lake Michigan from being permanently ruined by BP.

Brandon,

AT&T is able to broadcast b/c they’ve purchased the rights to a part of the broadcast spectrum - the “airwaves.” From us. We agree to sell them the right, contingent on their not attempting to censor content. It simply cannot be ok to allow AT&T to use public airwaves to restrict and censor political speech (or, for that matter, to illegally turnover calling records to the federal gov’t for the purpose of data mining).

You can still see it here: www.tubejuke.com
Search for “pearl jam anti bush”

So bold — bashing Bush! Why doesn’t Pearl Jam and the lot doing something brave like taking a public stand against the murderous, gay-hating, woman-oppressing, kite-banning, non-Muslim beheading faction of Islam?

Huh?

Fuck Bush Jr. He has ruined our country for decades. Never before in the history of our nation have all of our allies turned their back on us not to mention The United Nations did as well. This is all for oil, greed and corruption. There is no middle class in america anymore, only the very very poor and the wealthiest.

I think that was a great song. I my self don,t care for bush and can,t wait until he is out of office.

Dr Benway is on point, its easier to not listen than cut things out. just from an effort perspective, most americans are lazy and less censorship is not only better, but easier to accomplish!

9 trillion? that’s intense… gosh maybe we should stop buying Ipod and SUVs, giving aid to 3rd world nations, paying athletes and movie stars millions of dollars,and hand over the country’s fiscal policy to the first person who figures out how to not spend any money at all. Great! good as done.

i can’t understand how any of you think it’s ok to censor an artist’s performance. if you posted something on this site that you felt strongly about ,and it was deleted arbitrarily , you’d be mad as hell.stop letting our freedom be erroded by what’s good for corporate America.

$8,949,639,327,073.38

This is our national debt as of today. We are OWNED by China and Saudi Arabia as well as others.
Not exactly bastions of freedom.

haha, ok so this forum was supposed to be about music… i’m syked that everyone here is a Pearl Jam fan though, there’s something about the sounds of chords that strikes up emotion, and there’s no shortage of that! good for them.

RE: 12:43 pm/Ward Churchill
This is the guy that argued that the US Foreign Policy provoked the attacks on 911.
The facts are this. The US had military bases in Saudi Arabia. Osama Bin Laden vowed to fix this situation. 911 happens and viola, the US quietly exits Saudi Arabia AND lets Osama ’slip’ away.
Don’t the facts matter to you?

you backed it up?
haha, ok lets se…

“The US IS a fascist empire running on borrowed money.” –> ALL countries borrow money, that comment is pointless, does that make everyone fascist? Tell me where/how does our economic system tie into a political ethos?

“The corporations ARE the government” –> I’m anti-big business, but i agree corporations are their own little government simply because of the influence/power they wield and the amount of people they employ. Stop shopping at Walmart then, that’s what I did. It’s not my fault someone had a good idea and turned into a millionaire entrepreuner.

“look at how many corporate lobbyists are part of the Bush administration, and vise-versa” –> look at how many lobbyists are involved with ANY administration. It’s real simple ya see, the rich take care of the rich (oh wait, isn’t Eddie Vedder rich?); a group of people who have an interest must go to a group of elected officials to seek action, it’s called democracy, NOT fascism. It’s called a “majority” when those interests come out on top, meaning in the best interests of “most” and definitely not “all”.

“the corporations will censor the opposition” –> in complete agreement with that, it works both ways though. What would people have to complain about if they didn’t feel like they weren’t being heard fairly, and by EVERYONE. censor nothing, just turn it off if you don’t like it.

…So, your opinions hardly stand as “proof”, so I think you can take your wikipedia definition of “fascism” and revise it based on some facts. I’m pretty sure you can find my rebuttal in any civics/government text book that has studied the constitution of this great country… oh but wait, a CORPORATION published the book so its kaputt too!

Pearl Jam is doing a noble thing. Republicans and Democrats alike fight censorship, especially over the air waves and its a credit to them as a band to take a stand.

For those of you complaining that he should “just play music”, I’ve got news for you. He WAS playing music. He was singing lyrics about W when he got cut off. And before you complain about that, they’ve had politic and socially charged lyrics since Ten. People who go to a PJ concert & are shocked to find politics never cease to amaze me. Where the hell have you been for the past 16 years and are you too dumb to actually listen to the lyrics on the albums you no doubt own??

I’m tired of musicians and there political rants. There is a big difference between what Dylan did in the 60’s and what Vedder and Co. are doing today.

Hey Himmler,
Then describe how we are not a fascist state.
Prove it. I gave you clear proof of my statement. Why don’t you do the same?

I think it’s awesome how all of the anti-Bush conspiracy theorists use totally rad words like ‘tapeworm’ and ‘fuck’ to showcase their intellectual merit. Maybe now I’ll see it your way.

pull the tape worm out of your asses, all of you naive fucks. just sit back and sip a cocktail until the NWO makes you a slave. or better yet your children. if you think im extreme you’re just a pussy whose afraid to accept the truth. ZEITGEISTMOVIE.COM if you don’t know then now you know.

It’s interesting that they say they had the content monitor to cut down on excessive profanity…Pearl Jam played Save You earlier in their set, and that song is loaded with the F-word.

I see very little as to what living in another country has to do with the validity of criticizing your own…

I can tell that everyone commenting on fascism definitely has a formal degree in “international politics” and is an esteemed colleague of Ward Churchill… Whoever that is, they lack what historians refer to as “common sense”, something definitely not present anywhere in the world since the turn of the 20th century, so don’t worry, you’re not alone

Lots of “Good Germans” on this board I see!
Guten Tag.

wow, pj is anti-bush? yawn. that’s such a tired angle. a band who actually would get onstage to support bush would be the first band to really demonstrate some balls. AT&T have every right to censor any band it sponsors (even pj, a band i love). that’s capitalism. deal with it.

AT&T rocks!

muscians should stay muscians…

eddie vedder is such a whiney little wuss. It’s a broken record, over and over again. try going and living in another country a-hole before ripping this one to shreds.

there’s a double standard for Net Neutrality- in theory, the web is supposed to be a free expanse where information and ideas can transcend socio-political boundaries, but all sorts of people complain when stuff like that IS cut out… not saying it should have been. point is, leaving their clip in would have violated net neutrality, just like taking it out; lose-lose situation

people who say that AT&T needs to read about net neutrality and what AT&T has already said about the “mistake.” They wouldn’t be cowering under a lie of a mistake if it was their “right” to take it down. AT&T sucks ass. cingular sucks ass. boo.

people who put America on the same moral/ethical plane as Nazi Germany are… WOW, not the brightest or most educated people I’ve ever met. Oh, i forgot… we’re all “brainwashed” and our thoughts are “supressed” by “THEM”. In the words of Voltaire- “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend until my death your right to say it.”

The same thing happened to John Butler Trio at Bonnaroo this year. During one of their songs, I believe Gov Did Nothing, AT&T Blue Room’s broadcast had sections cut out of it. I don’t think it was a consequence or “not intended, but rather a mistake by one of the webcast editors.” Just thought you should know.

Sorry ownage, your comments make little sense. Perhaps you should read about Dylan, CSNY, etc., and opposition to ‘Nam. What, do you think PJ is blazing some new trail.
Again, it’s a shame so many are asleep in this country. This administration–the worst in IS history–has proven they can literally get away with anything, and spin the dissenters as being “Un-American.”

been listening to PJ since “jeremy” hit the waves… I don’t mind their opinions at all, I’m all about free speech, it’s when they use the stage for something other than what they advertise. I’m a fan of their music, I guess not their stage manners. Personally I think censorship is a big problem in our culture. I feel Eddie had every right to say what he wanted (I didn’t mention that earlier) but AT&T had every right to cut (IF that was the case) things they thought could be construed as favoritism towards PJ’s “opinions”. Who’s to say it wasn’t just an individual who did it too? Since people are so keen on blaming ONE PERSON for all the world’s problems, why not blame the person chopped it out, and not AT&T.

This proves that we really have to stay AWARE of our world and that media IS Censored for what “THEY” want us to hear or remember!
Power to Eddie Vedder/PearlJam for voicing true feelings!

it can be very much related to Net Neutrality… and ‘ownage’ you’re an idiot, shut the F’kup…
we are losing our rights more and more all the time…if people (all of us) don’t start reacting we’re going to regret it! these rae some sad F’ing time! things will be messed up beynd repair all too soon if things don’t change.

ciao F’kers

ownage, I assume you haven’t followed the band much in the last 16 or so years, have ya? THey have had a pretty clear political stance from the beginnning. How is that news to you?

The US IS a fascist empire running on borrowed money.
The corporations ARE the government. It is no surprise that the corporations will censor the opposition, you and me. That is fascism.
Don’t believe it. Just look at how many corporate lobbyists are part of the Bush administration, and vise-versa.

eddie vedder and PJ - i salute you! and not the nazi-style salute which i reserve for our “leaders”

*Cough* *cough*
Censorship is one of the worst evils there is. There is no excuse for it.

people pay to see a great musicshow (which is what PJ used to rock at), not hear Vedder sound like some uneducated malcontent while ranting. He should stay in the business of music or, if he wants to make a real difference, go get an education that doesn’t involve comic book conspiracy theories, biased news casts, and empty rhetoric that can only be described as “infantile” in nature

Bush —-! Look, now Rolling Stones are up to no good!!!!

Don’t get me wrong…I’m all for NN, and a huge fan of bush bashing…This isn’t an issue of net neutrality at all. At&t Sponsored the concert, and was playing it on thier website…As a coorporation, they have every right to put (or not put) whatever they want on thier site. I do not agree with what they did, but I also do not agree with pearl jam trying to connect this with Net Neutrality.

bush and cheney should be on the cover of the next RS

Unitentional? I doubt that very much. Free speech is dying. Time to wake up America!

1. Bush & Cheney don’t even know who Pearl Jam are… so it’s pretty dumb to lay blame
2. AT & T just got free pub for all the wrong reasons… they’ll have a hard time shaking this from ppl’s (who are aware of this) memories
3. I think Pearl Jam should perform at the DNC in Denver next year

Censoring Profanity? A mistake? I didn’t hear any profanity. I heard a couple of minor almost commonplace dings on the most unpopular President of modern times. It’s common on the street to hear much, much worse about this President. People talk about fear but it’s funny to see that people don’t care anymore and are very open about what they wish for this President and his war cronies.

Bush and Chaney should be ashamed of themselves. I hope the rest of the worls understands that most people do not support Bush or Chaney.

I still feel that Zac Efron shouldn’t be on the cover of the next Rolling Stone issue man. I mean, what the hell? Someone actually in the music scene should be on that cover.

yeah, what a ‘coincidence’ that is was during the political song. WHAT ARE THE ODDS? such a ‘coincidence’ it happened during that song and not one of the non-political ones.

how fucking stupid does at&t think people are?

Thank God for Eddie Vedder. You have to wonder where we live anymore, America…or Nazi Germany. Holy God, who can support these monsters?

Nmar, do what you do best. Nothing.

Guys like this Nmar up there would´nt know how dumb that post sounds until the day they can´t choose for themselves anymore…
Love PJ!

Hey Eddie, Shut Up. If I wanted to listen to people bitch about Bush, I’d turn on Every Newstation, or listen to my Democratic grandma, Do what you do best and play music.

What a joke AT&T! Keep up the fight PJ!!!!