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Thurston Moore: The Six-Pack Q&A

8/6/07, 12:04 pm EST

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Rolling Stone posed six questions to Sonic Youth singer-guitarist/record exec/general cool guy Thurston Moore. He spoke out in favor of noise rock, Yoko Ono and his right to be a snooty music expert in the school cafeteria.

Name one of your earliest examples of rock-star behavior.
The most rock-star thing I did at fourteen would have been defining myself in the school cafeteria. Some kids were obviously into rock music and they made a big deal out of it. They were into Yes and the Allman Brothers. But I was really getting into Alice Cooper, David Bowie, Sparks and Roxy Music. And they thought I was into rock music so I sort of knew what I was talking about sometimes. The fact was I knew a million times more than any of those kids knew about any of those bands from Zeppelin to the Beatles. I knew it all and I was a fucking egghead about it. They’d ask me what kind of music I liked. I would say, “I really like theater rock.” And they just looked at me like I was the spawn of all that is wrong with music. I think that was a rock-star thing to do in a way, just kind of divorcing myself from the cattle.
What was your favorite album when you were fourteen?
Probably Kimono My House by Sparks.

What album have you been digging lately?
It’s this compilation of L.A. hardcore bands called Life Is Ugly So Why Not Kill Yourself? It features the first generation of hardcore bands like Civil Dismay, Red Kross, Anti, Ill Will, Descendants and Mood of Defiance. I’ve been getting together a book of pictures — photos by David Markie and Jordan Schwartz — of all the house parties and gigs where a lot of those bands played. I guess the Minutemen are on there too, they do a couple of great songs on there, “Shit You Hear at Parties.”

When people come up to you and say, “Hey, I don’t understand noise rock,” what is your response?
That’s not the way to approach any kind of music, to say you don’t understand it. There’s nothing to understand. Any kind of music, it already kind of transcends understanding. It’s a sensual art form. You obviously don’t understand life because noise music, for me, is the noise of life, in a way. It’s so much more akin to the human condition. The human condition is not a song, it’s not an organized composition. This is more the natural music of our lives.

Who’s the coolest famous person you ever met?
It would have to be Kim G! For sure. Believe me, she was unbelievable when I first met her. She wore this sort of hip prison-stripe outfit and flip-up shades on her glasses. She had a ponytail, a little ponytail that was sort of center at the back of her head and I thought, “That’s the coolest fucking person I’ve ever met.” Then she became my girlfriend, which was beyond cool because that never really happened to me before. The funny thing about cool
is that Sonic Youth always gets tagged as like this cool band, and I grew up as a teenager in high school and stuff and I was not the cool kid. It wasn’t because I wanted to be cool, it was because I wanted to get away from the cool. So the fact that now that that kind of theme of un-cool is cool is kind of un-cool as far as I’m concerned.

When do you think you’ll know when it’s time to retire?
I just feel like I’m still going to an apprenticeship here. I feel like I’m getting to a point where I can actually be like the musician I want to be to do the kind of work I want to do. It takes a while, it really does. Take Yoko Ono, who is one of the most radical musicians on the planet. She’s in her seventies. I just did a duet with her in Pittsburgh. People like that to
me are my inspirations.


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Anonymous | 10/4/2008, 10:25 am EST

Only a complete and utter idiot would use the term “guitar god”… God, make this shitfuck realize ANYONE can play guitar. AMEN. P.S.- I still like Satan worshipping musicians better. Maybe you could tell Christian rockers to step it up a notch. Thanks Dawg.

Grade ten student at edhs | 6/4/2008, 8:58 am EST

Anybody who has written a comment here before me is a complete and utter idiot. Before i was given Thurston Moore as a Guitar God to do a project on I had never heard of him or the band sonic youth but ive done my research now and i do think that this band will make a make a notch on the belt of rock and roll history!

Smedley Dooright | 9/25/2007, 12:43 am EST

I’m getting so pissed off. I have always been a geek. I am now 34. Now some young hipsters come along and steal my mojo. They’re all dressing like geeks from the 1980’s. Dude, that’s MY turf, you posers! I’ve always been a geek!

Ian St.Ian | 8/18/2007, 11:53 am EST

Noise pollution.Very inspiring.

stokewood | 8/9/2007, 10:21 am EST

“Thurston - Watt, did you find your shit yet”

noise on

Ragin Johnny Chubb | 8/9/2007, 8:48 am EST

This is EXACTLY what Moore was talking about. If ya don’t get it, there is no use trying to explain it.
If you farm-dwelling FOGHAT dweens ever get a chance to stand on a skyscraper roof in NYC, shut the fuck up for a minute and listen.
There-in lies NOISE ROCK’s inspiration.
Thurston backed YOKO at the PITCHFORK FESTIVAL in Chicago and while most of us were just stunned at the impact, right behind us was a complete fool who kept saying outloud “I don’t get it”…My daughter finally turned around and told him “we know asshole, PLEASE shut the fuck up”…
We luckily were able to move away and enjoy the rest of the show. YOKO was nervous and 73, and obviously someone who didn’t have years and years of stage experience, but when she brought on her friend Thurston she relaxed and got into her groove and brought what she had to bring. It was amazing, folks.
Way back before most of you heard your first guitar chord, there was a song by a band called Lovin Spoonful (it plays on oldies every day) called “Do You Believe in Magic?” There’s a line in there that goes “it’s like tryin to tell a stranger about rock-n-roll”….
I ran into the same block of culture shock when Neil Young had Sonic Youth with him on the WELD-tour…I did my best by hollering “YOUNG YOUTH” in the hallways during intermission, but people seem to be afraid of anything that hasn’t been played on the radio 8000 times since lunch.
It’s your loss.

uncool stupid jerk beeatch etc | 8/8/2007, 3:07 pm EST

i just read all these posts backwards - that show cool a fool i be

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cota | 8/8/2007, 12:57 pm EST

hey Live Free or Die,,,,,,ummmmm,,no,I take it back, you are not a jerk, you are a sniveling little bee-ach with an ax to grind. WaaWaaWaaaa!!

As far as Kim G. being famous or not, read the question again, “Who is the coolest famous person you ever met?”, not “Who is the coolest person you ever met that was famous at that time.”,,,jeesh,,,you say to-may-toe,,,,,I say to-ma-toe,,,whatever!!!!

DYLAN GOT... | 8/8/2007, 9:11 am EST

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PopZeus | 8/7/2007, 8:35 pm EST

Cooter, “if you’re anything like a typical Rolling Stone reader” you probably think Kurt Cobain is worthy of being the 12th best guitarist of all time. Who is your favorite band? The Allman Brothers?

Kool Thing | 8/7/2007, 7:08 pm EST

Useless? Obviously you don’t know anything about music history.. or maybe you just listen to bad music. And born rich NYers? HA. Kim Gordon grew up on the west coast and was the daughter of a seamstress, Thurston grew up in some lonely New England town, Lee was from a pretty mundane place in Long Island…..at least get your facts straight before spewing a bunch of nonsense.

Jason | 8/7/2007, 7:05 pm EST

They don’t listen and for good reason? All the SY fans I know definitely do listen to their work. You guys don’t know what you’re talking about, and with good reason, if you’re anything like a typical Rolling Stone reader. SY’s music might have be esoteric, but they’re brilliant at what they do, and have produced amazing, seminal albums.

Arlo J. Wiley | 8/7/2007, 6:47 pm EST

No SY fans are ever caught listening to their music? Um, dude…I listen to them quite frequently. They’re fantastic.

And Thurston saying Yoko’s an inspiration…that is also fantastic. I love Yoko and then she always gets such an unfair rap.

Wish I could’ve seen them together at that Pitchfork gig.

Arlo J. Wiley | 8/7/2007, 6:46 pm EST

No SY fans are ever caught listening to their music? Um, dude…I listen to them quite frequently. They’re fantastic.

And Thurston saying Yoko’s an inspiration…that is also fantastic. I love Yoko and then she always gets such an unfair rap.

Wish I could’ve seen them together at that Pitchfork gig.

killyridols | 8/7/2007, 6:36 pm EST

I listen to Sonic Youth pretty much everyday. At least a track or two.

TheDude | 8/7/2007, 3:35 pm EST

finally. someone said it. thanks juan

Crackity Jones | 8/7/2007, 3:12 pm EST

never been a big SY fan, but for those of you who are, check out the Cribs song “Be Safe,” which features Lee Renaldo on “vocals” - actually the Cribs guy is singing but renaldo does this great monotone stream of consciousness monologue throughout the song - it’s worth the .99 on I-Tunes

Juan | 8/7/2007, 2:17 pm EST

Sonic Youth is the kind of band that we all say are great artists but we never listen to them.

Cooter | 8/7/2007, 1:43 pm EST

The funny thing about Sonic Youth is that you will never catch any of their so called fans listening to their music. And for good reason.

joe | 8/7/2007, 1:33 pm EST

you all sound so damn intelligent…

Live Free or Die | 8/7/2007, 1:27 pm EST

Cota, your right! Sort of… I am a jerk. And Thurston isn’t a jerk for wondering if he is cool or not, he’s pathetic. And Kim was not famous when they met (which was the question) although she is now. And my tag name is about as misleading as a bunch of 40 year olds in a band called sonic YOUTH!

killyridols | 8/7/2007, 1:01 pm EST

Live free or die, have you never read an interview with Thurston before? He is a very self obsessed and self aware. He is very much into being a music geek, and that’s OK. He makes amazing music, Sonic Youth will very much be more than a footnote in the history of Rock. They already are. I’m not quite sure what else they would need to do in order for those that don’t belive they will to see it.

And sy, you can’t go see Red Kross now and say they suck. Listen to the original material. I mean would you say that Bob Dylan sucks because you saw him at 60 years old and he didn’t have the energy he used to? And how the hell are you going to judge a band by the people you saw in the crowd? Most of the people at The Stooges shows these days are old dudes and I wouldn’t say they suck.

cota | 8/7/2007, 12:57 pm EST

hey “Live Free or Die”,,,,everyone has a right to his or her opinions,but your negative rant at Kim and Thurston makes YOU look like a JERK,,,,,,,I would expect more from someone with the name “Live Free or Die”

Kim IS famous,,,and if Thurston thinks he is cool or not,,,how does thaT make him a jerk??

Anonymous | 8/7/2007, 12:54 pm EST

who cares

cpt squint | 8/7/2007, 11:48 am EST

sonic youth will be a part of rock n’ roll history because..um..well they have been cataloged in the National Recording Registry of the Library of Congress along with frank zappa, jimi hendrix, b.b. king, stevie wonder, and nitty gritty dirt band…is that part of rock history?…o yeah, and the star spangled banner

Live Free or Die | 8/7/2007, 11:16 am EST

Thurston, if there is nothing to understand about “noise music”, then why are you explaining it to us? And Kim G is not famous. And the fact that you are pondering your uncoolness makes me believe you are a jerk. I also think your suffering from “I know an obscure band and you don’t” syndrome, which also makes me think you’re a jerk, But you’re in a very good band that has made great music for 30 years.

cota | 8/7/2007, 10:50 am EST

hey Kune Chajee Namja,,,when calling someone a moron, be sure to spell “understanding” with an “s” in it!!

,,,,and maybe dump the piss out of your cheerios,,,,life is to short to be so grumpy!

TMS | 8/7/2007, 10:17 am EST

LoL: Sonic Youth has already been around for practically 30 years and they are still relevent, if not ground breaking. It’s not much of a stretch for them to “be an asterick in rock n roll history in 50 years” when people are still blown away by their first record 3 decades after it was made.

LoL | 8/7/2007, 3:40 am EST

Thurston is a over rated idiot. I have a question for all you Sonic Youth heads, do you really believe this band will even be an asterick in rock n roll history in 50 yrs? …………….. NO. They are over rated and a complete waste of time. The coolest thing they ever did was collaborate with Cypress Hill on the Judgement Day soundtrack. Other than that they are and always have been useless. The only thing I’ll give them props for was Kim Gordon’s relentless love and passion to get Nirvana to the masses, other than that……well useless and overrated is the best way to describe these born rich New Yorkers…..LOL. Uselessssssssssss.

Kune Chajee Namja | 8/7/2007, 1:05 am EST

This interview “transcends undertanding.” What a moron! “The human condition is not a song. It is a sensual art form?????” Go back to art school dude. You are soooo cool. Or uncool. Or cooolarific. Or uncooola. You are THE uncooola. What a cool dude you are.

Rapin Johnny Chunk | 8/6/2007, 10:25 pm EST

hey EL fake dick - you got a stutter or something?- it ain’t that clever once, let alone ten fucking times.

saw yoko and thurston at pitchfork in chicago…wOw.

sy | 8/6/2007, 9:23 pm EST

two things. one: very weak ?s by rolling stone yu can do way better when talking to a rock guitar god. two: sorry thurston but red kross sux. i saw them down at the show in the greek n the only ppl watchin em were 40 yr olds who looked like steve carrell coming out of a golf club… but daydream nation was great! long live sonic youth!!

El Fuego Phallus | 8/6/2007, 6:48 pm EST

Agreed. Thurston Moore is arguably the most awesomest cool guy on the planet. Same goes for Lee and Kim G as well.

Stuporfly | 8/6/2007, 4:47 pm EST

Sonic Youth is amazing, and Thurston is an incredibly nice guy.

Long live Sonic Youth!

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