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It’s ok…I’ll take a listen to the song when I have some xtra time to spare - it’s 20 minutes long…will send you some design direction at this post in the next day or 2.

Don’t sweat Supper’s Ready; it just might not be your cup of tea!

smart ass

Supper’s not ready.
It’s still marinating.

Bukowski,

I am s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-d (for time)…won’t be posting my biz ad until tomorrow.

Here are some music vids you can check out…I saw this band play live in a small club ages ago in my hometown, before they got famous (Apparently Nirvana also played in that very same club before they got huge).

www.youtube.com/watc h?v=Mc8fXaTqmWE

www.youtube .com/watch?v=ngP9_AjV6Fc

(t ake spaces out of the links)

~ peace ~

Bukowski,
VH is VG - sorry for the confusion.
It’s was all that VH “hype” yesterday. Was listening to Van Halen’s debut yesterday (can’t believe that came out about 30 yrs. ago - but it’s amazing stuff, really).
I’ve got to run and get some work done - will post later tonight…and will let you know sometime when I get around to giving the genesis song a better listen…I didn’t give it much of a fair chance.
~ peace

I’m definitely psyched about Van Halen. Despite what a lot of people think, I think they’re gonna be great. And Wolfie’s gonna do just fine. He’s got great DNA! Is “VG” and “VH” the same person? I’m confused. I Don’t Like Mondays either. I want to SHOOT THE WHOLE DAY DOWN!

…guess my mind was on VH.
(sorry Bukowski, “I Don’t Like Mondays”)

Bukowski,
I just remembered - I also know somebody who runs a tattoo business in my hometown - they have the best tattoo artists on the west coast on board with them; they do some really cool stuff (again not sure what style of art you are looking for). Discuss later.
~ peace ~

Bukowski,
Not sure where you found your designers - that sounds nightmarish. Nothing like deadbeat designers to give the rest of us a bad name. I’ll be posting a business ad @ Van’s craigslist tomorrow. I’ll post again here tomorrow to direct you to the ad (I run my own design biz). I don’t want to solicit business ads or direct email addresses here on these blogs. If my design business can’t help you out, I know quite a few great pro designers who I can direct you to (w/10-20 yrs. experience). I also have a friend who is a great cartoonist, but that all depends on the “style” of art you are looking for. I recall the movie Magnolia (is that a Tom Cruise film?). Saw it once, but I’d have to see it again to refresh my memory about the plot. Speaking of Van, do you like Van Halen, and are you planning to see them? I think I’d like to go just to hear Eddie play (I always thought he was an awesome guitar player). I remember buying the VH debut on vinyl when I was a kid (still have it too, albeit it’s probably scratched up as hell). BTW - if you’re still thinking along the lines of your political campaign, believe me, neighbors to the north of the US border are also concerned about all these global and economical issues. Just take a look at who your president is shaking hands with. That’s a whole other discussion.
~ Peace ~

I’m not familiar w/Emily Carr’s work. I will definitely give it a long, good look. I was reffering to how do I get to YOU, so we can communicate much more freely. So, I am more than happy to look at anything (I’m not quite the close minded jerk, you may have earlier believed. Although I’m quite capable of being a jerk sometimes!) Lay it on me man, whatever. I’m always up for new things, especially when it comes to art, music, films,poetry, etc. In the modern realm, I’m quite intrigued by Miranda July. I think she’s quite a nutbag and seemed a little too fascinated by borderline pedophilia in her film, “Me and You and Everyone We Know”(which I found quite troubling, since I am a strong advocate of victim’s rights, especially when it comes to children). However, her child like openness towards her life and art I find to be very endearing and intruiging. Have you ever seen a film called “Magnolia?” It’s one of my favorite movies of all time. And If you’ve seen it, see it again! I don’t believe one could possibly see that movie too many times. By the way, I dumped these moron designers; they turned out to be very unprofessional and useless. If you have any suggestions regarding this, I am all ears. Peace

Hey, Phantom,
I do agree with your point about the motivation of rock music being about the typical sex, drugs & roll ‘n roll thing. I think that it was a “partial” motivation for some music artists, but for others, it was political and still is. I’d say though that Jim Morrison was appealing alright! I used to work with somebody who interviewed him and met him. When I asked my older co-worker what he was like in person, their reply was that although Jim M. had a slight degree of arrogance about him, he was absolutely drop-dead-gorgeous. Same person I worked with met Jimi Hendrix - apparently Jimi was quite stoned but really really nice.

Bukowski,

You have the freedom to turn any which way you like. Are you familiar with Emily Carr’s work? While she was alive, she felt underappreciated. However, she is quite an inspiration. Her paintings now sell for $$$$$$$’s. She could be rolling in her grave.
…and the Group of 7 - their stuff is amazing.

Oh, yeah. VG, I entered the gallery, but I didn’t know whether to turn left or right. Ya,dig?

What happened to that crazy conservative dude? Looks like a hurricane carried his ass away. Too bad. I was looking forward to seeing a good ugly fight.

I might be able to give you some good designer referrals if that doesn’t work out.

- Peace

vanartgallery dot bc dot ca

His brain his ass his life. I asked him to come up with something by this week. I might just dump him. I was kind of hoping that he could help keep the idea fresh and breathe some life into it. Because it’s just a concept until I can see it in front of me. I won’t know what I have until it’s sketched out.

It shouldn’t be too hard then for you to find a designer. Is your designer still dragging their butt?

A fictitous Presidential Candidate with a ridicuolous platform. Definitely couldn’t have done any worse than the “genius” who’s running things now!

Best advice is to find a good designer, look at their portfolio and ask for client references…make sure you have a contract in place.

You mentioned something about a political campaign…similar opinion or along the same lines as PJ’s by chance?

Bukowski,
Yes, I did - you were the one asking about the designs, correct? Did you find a designer to meet your deadline?

Hey VG, did you happen to give someone advice on the Sex Pistols thread about graphic designs for T shirts???

You should pick up the latest TOOL, if anything, for the artwork alone (trippy 3D stuff).

Nice talking to you again, RB - I’m about a 2-3 hours drive north of Seattle.

I read another interesting comment posted at one of the other blogs…that not all of Pearl Jam’s fans are male, or American. I thought that was an interesting point, because the key issue is “world peace”, which I mentioned I am all for. Anyway, yes, I like Foo Fighters - I saw parts of the live earth concert on TV, and I thought that they were probably the strongest and most energetic performance. However, I respect Nirvana and the Foos as being two entirely different bands with their own styles. I like their song “hero” - I heard that it was Dave Grohl’s tribute song to Kurt (that’s what I read, anyway).

I think Nirvana’s Unplugged was one of the greatest moments in rock history. I love the Foos; I think Dave’s a genius. Your thoughts. . .

Don’t own any Tool, what I hear I like. Maynard looks likes a serial murderer, though. Bullocks? Holy shit! Don’t tell me, you’re the guy I was debating over there too, I bet. I’m from NY, so I’ve always been partial to The Dolls and The Ramones. I remember saying over at the Bullocks thread that I didn’t think the album was a important as people make it out to be. You were the guy I was debating over there, were’nt you? This is just too weird! I also liked the New Wave stuff like Blondie, Elvis, Talking Heads and the Police. . .

Some thoughts about Nirvana Unplugged…I thought that it showed another side to Kurt’s “versatility” as a music artist. Still listen to that CD to this day.

What do you think about Nevermind the Bollocks?

Silverchair has been around for a while - (they’re pretty good though, but I haven’t given them too much of a fair listen lately). I have the PJ Live @ the Gorge 3 CD set (interesting that it doesn’t appear to be on a corporate record label). You can also purchase and order the live CD set at the Pearl Jam site. I like Radiohead - the more you listen to them, the more they grow on you. What do you think of TOOL - I saw them live several times long before they started playing larger venues. First time I saw them play was on a sidestage @ Lolla ‘93.

Did you buy any of the PJ Live CDs? I wanted to pick a couple up but there were all these numbers for all these different concerts. Since I had taken a step back from the band, I found the whole experience to be kind of nerve wracking. Do you have any of those CDs? What do you recommend? Also, do you know anything about this Silverchair craze? All these kids seem to think they’re the second coming of Zeppelin. I promised them I’d check out one of their CDs. The only thing I can remember was a couple of little kids that put out a record right in the heart of the Seattle era. I really dig Radiohead. What do you think of them? I think “Hail To The Thief” is a far better record than Kid A, though.

Saw Neil Young live also (double-bill w/PJ…think it was in ‘93 or ‘94). Versatile is the word to describe Neil in concert.

Glad to hear the cat came back - they have 9 lives. Yeah, sorry about my disappointing Genesis review…maybe I’ll give it another fair listen & let you know. I appreciate Phil Collins’ talents, but prefer Peter Gabriel’s solo stuff. About Chris Cornell - saw him in concert recently - he was incredible. You should also check out PJ’s new Live at The Gorge CD set (what’s cool about it to me is that I was there - they played at least 30 songs during the concert). You can’t fully appreciate music artists or bands until you hear them live.
- peace

I can’t believe it!!! My cat just showed up after 6 days! I thought for sure he was dead!!! Thanks for bringing me luck. Well, you’re stuck; we’re friends now! Genesis Shmenesis! Talk to you soon, buddy! Peace.

A little distracted. My cat has been missing for 6 days now. Looked everywhere, looks like I’m going to have to face the unthinkable. Having a hard time understanding your last message. I wish you could have been a little more patient, but if it’s not your thing it’s not your thing. You asked me about the other Seattle bands. The thing that absolutely blew me away about Nirvana was their unplugged show. I liked Nirvana before that, but afterwards that convinced me that they were truly great. With the acoustic thing I could hear hidden melodies that I couldn’t hear with the electric thing. Most importantly, I could hear Kurt’s beautiful and wonderfully wouded voice. I loved “TEN” because it was so fresh and helped chase the lipstick metal thing away. I didn’t really stop listening to them because of “growing up” but because I was in college and I was just surrounded by so many new things. My favorite record from that time was probably Superunknown. I thought it was such a perfect fusion of experimental metal with a pop edge. Brilliant. Chris Cornell is a genius, not to mention having a GREAT PIPES! That’s where (college) I got into PG Genesis for one thing. Since you prefer PG over Genesis, there’s a song called “Carpet Crawlers ‘99″ that would be much more to your liking. Cool video too.

Bukowski,

This song is a lot better:
www.youtube.com/watch ?v=QXyX45A0Alk

(take out the spaces in the link)

Not a Genesis fan.
Sorry, but the first minute was kind of boring, and it lost my interest.
Would rather listen to Peter Gabriel (So)

Peter Gabriel…
was influenced by Nina Simone.
She had a very good guitarist in her band
I’ll check out supper’s ready tomorrow and leave a few comments.
Peace.

I’ll check this thread tomorrow to see if you’re around. Unfortunately, the only good idea I’ve got is to crash. Don’t forget YouTube Supper’s Ready. It should be one of best twenty minutes you’ve spent in a while. If you check it out tell me what you think. Later.

Good luck with your album and novel - the music scene needs a bit of a kick, wouldn’t you agree (with the exception of several great bands and music artists out there now).

Gotta Go zzzz-zzzz-zzzz-zzzz Maybe I’ll Check ya out tomorrow. Don’t forget to You Tube “Supper’s Ready” Peace.

Creative-types are nocturnal :}
The best ideas come at night, for some reason.

Are these your peak working hours?

I want to see the Police. They’re my all time favorite band. Stewart Copeland is the greatest drummer that ever lived. Him, and of course, Bonham. The two best concerts I’ve seen were The Rolling Stones Steel Wheels at Shea Stadium. And this tribute band called “The Musical Box” who do all Peter Gabriel Genesis stuff, with all the costume changes, light shows, etc. It’s as close to being exact as those early Genesis shows that is humanly possible. If you never listened to PG Genesis, it’s a must! Check Supper’s Ready on youtube. You’ll be glad you did. It’s funny, this situation reminds me of how I made friends when I was kid. You’d fight your mortal enemy in the school yard and when the dust settles, you’re friends!

That’s cool. Have you seen Pearl Jam in concert? I’ve seen them 4x, but unfortunately, I never did see Nirvana in concert, and wish that I had. Saw AIC once when Layne was still around (RIP Layne), and also Soundgarden.

Well, I’m recording an album all by myself. It’s better that way, I think. I am also working on a novel: A Rock and Roll fantasy. They’re a both a million miles away from being done. But its about the work to me; so it’s the journey not the destination–at least, that’s what I keep telling myself!

The visual arts. What kind of musician are you? An anti-rock-star-type? You seem to dislike “celebrities” yourself. Which is good.

So, let’s have it.

Not a musician - but let’s just say that my career is of the creative discipline.

Well, maybe I can be the first musician that you don’t have to have a soft spot for. What are you working on right now?

Bukowski,
Well, I’ve read a lot about music artists. And some of the famous ones do dislike celebrities. However, isn’t Ed Vedder considered to be like the anti-rock star? I just think that he’s genuine, like Kurt Cobain seemed to be. I have a soft spot for musicians.

I want world peace too, dude. I hate celebrities who think they’re smarter than the rest of us. I came to my own conclusions on the war, on Bush, etc. You must know that most celebrities have a gradiose idea of themselves and deify themselves into believing that they’re of higher intelligence than the rest of us. You MUST know this. You’re no dummy that’s for sure.

Bukowski,
You’re either for world peace or you’re not. I’m all for it. The only way to create positive change is with a positive attitude. Eddie Vedder is not a world leader, but his intentions are for the good.

I mean the “latter” (excuse me, It’s late)

You’re the ladder? Good. So am I.

“There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot, but there are others who, thanks to their art and intelligence, transform a yellow spot into the sun.”

- Pablo Picasso

“The Genius of the Crowd” There is enough treachery, hatred, violence, Absurdity in the average human being to supply any given army on any given day. AND The Best At Murder Are Those Who Preach Against It. AND The Best At Hate Are those who Preach LOVE. AND THE BEST AT WAR–FINALLY–ARE THOSE WHO PREACH PEACE. Beware of The Average Man, The Average Woman, BEWARE Their Love. Their Love Is Average, Seeks Average. But There is Genius In Their Hatred. There is Enough Genius In Their Hatred To Kill You, To Kill Anybody. Not Wanting Solitude, Not Understanding Solitude, They Will Attempt To Destroy Anything That Differs From Their Own. Not Being Able To Create Art, They Will Not Understand Art. They Will Consider Their Failure As Creators, Only As A Failure Of The World. Not Being Able To Love Fully, They Will BELIEVE Your Love Incomplete. AND THEN THEY WILL HATE YOU. And Their Hatred Will Be Perfect. . . Like A Shining Diamond. Like A Knife. Like A Mountain. LIKE A TIGER. LIKE HEMLOCK. . .Their Finest ART

RE: RE:Bukowski Reader | 8/9/2007, 5:58 pm EST

“If you actually read what I wrote, you would know that I STOPPED litenening to Pearl Jam about 10 years ago. You see, I’ve done something haven’t done: It’s called “growing up.” Now would you please, please,please, do me a favor and just FUCK OFF now!”

“Every child is an artist. The problem is how to REMAIN AN ARTIST once he GROWS UP.”
- Pablo Picasso

WTF does Eddie Vedder have anything to do with some ex-girlfriend of yours? As far as “growing up” is concerned, since when does music have anything to do with age? Look at The Stones. You seem to be very closed-minded, and that’s why you come across as being prudish.

It appears that you aren’t too knowledgable about Kurt Cobain either. Never assume that your knowledge is broader than anybody elses.

I have every right to post my comments here like everybody else. Why don’t “you” leave, since you are not a hardcore Pearl Jam fan anyway? You even admit that you have not paid any attention to Pearl Jam since 10 years ago, so that automatically makes you a non-expert. Just like I said, what would you know? I’ve been following Pearl Jam’s music since they formed as a band, and you have no right to judge “my knowledge”. You are also the one who keeps responding to my comments. I support Eddie Vedder’s opinions, and if you have a problem with that, then that’s just tough sh&t for you.

If you actually read what I wrote, you would know that I STOPPED litenening to Pearl Jam about 10 years ago. You see, I’ve done something haven’t done: It’s called “growing up.” Now would you please, please,please, do me a favor and just FUCK OFF now!

God, you’ve got a major bug up your ass! Listen, I never questioned Eddie Vedder’s 1st Amendment right to speak. What I am questioning is his tact and his taste. Why are you having such problems understanding this? If Kurt Cobain spoke on these issues, I didn’t see it. At any rate, my mistake,sorry. So go away now, and stop bothering me. You’re like an ex-girlfriend who keeps calling and can’t get it thourgh her thick skull that it’s over. You definitely know anything about Bukowski. Now fuck off and leave me alone. I will no longer be responding to your insipid little notes; so find something else to do, okay?

FYI…
Kurt Cobain “did” take a stance against issues he was opposed against, in case you do not remember. Pearl Jam has always voiced their own opinions (have you never paid attention to their song lyrics, or are you that oblivious?). There is nothing new about that - where have you been - hiding under a rock?

Pearl Jam rocks.

Sunday @ Lollapalooza was like a religious experience for me, I fought to keep myspace up front to see Pearl Jam, but Kings of Leon and MMJ only enhanced that experience, despite all the drunken fools I was standing shoulder to shoulder with that day.
This was my 14th concert with Pearl Jam and I dont feel Eddie spews his political views to tell people what they should think or how they should feel politically, he is simply trying to bring awareness and wake people up to some of the atrocities that are going on right under our noses.
PEACE

senses a jealous phantom…

2 of the most powerful singers of the last 15 years ARE Vedder and Cornell.

Well, Phantom, it’s no wonder then that you seem to be so adamently defensive…since Bukowski was the great writer of modern angst - I get the picture. You are entitled to your opinions about Ed, but so is everybody else. I’m not going to get involved in a senseless argument.

It’s a double-edged sword, isn’t it? It’s ok for you to have an opinion, but according to you it’s not ok for others to have their own opinion. Who cares. Live and let live.

I am not jealous of Eddie Vedder in any way. I have a very successful and fulfilling life that I woudn’t trade for anyone else’s I don’t agree with him that’s all. Why do YOU have such problems with my opinions since you say “that the rest of us” -whoever the hell that is- don’t care what I have to say, anyway. Amd, they’re JUST my opinions. It’s called the FIRST AMENDMENT, remember? And if you knew anything about Bukowski, you wouldn’t be calling me a prude. I would normally end this by saying “Rock On,” but in your case I will just say “chirp on.”

My argument has nothing to do with Rolling Stone magazine. The information on the bands and the music is historically accurate. If you think I’m a pawn, great. Whatever.

You come across as being either extremely jealous (of Ed) or very prudish.
Chill out, before you give yourself a heart attack. Politics aside, “get over it”.

The Phantom,

You’re wrong. Like I said, if you don’t understand the political motivations, you’re a pawn. Rolling Stone, the magazine, the institution, was UNDENIABLY political so I’ll just leave that at that. The driving forces of the sexual revolution and the drug culture was to destroy/degrade an existing culture (de facto politics) -> the western kind (How could it not destroy ANY culture?) and replace it with a different one of the Second World variety. Those were the forces behind the scenes. (this is for people who may have never considered that idea before, if you believe in that political change or are actively part of it, you’ll obviously say I’m wrong) Of course if people think drugs and sexual “liberation” are good things they’re going to drop more inhibitions and do what people do without rules… Most people don’t care/have the time to figure out why they do everything they do… Don’t listen to me, go figure it out for yourself; you’re lost -> in a politically driven music world falling apart at the seems as we speak…

Contradiction, large erection. Who gives a shit?

Jerry Lee, Chunk Berry, Elvis, Little Richard never were political at all. The Beatles really didn’t get political until AFTER the college counter culture started the anti-war ground swell. Remember, 1967, the summer of love, the Beatles entry on the charts was Sargent Pepper’s, which was an album of fantasy and childhood memories. Not really anti-war manifesto. And they never made a record like that, ever. Lennon didn’t become all that political until AFTER the Beatles broke up. The 1970 “bed in” took place in the winter in Canada after they disbanded. The Stones were much more concerned with the psychedelic sound than any kind of real political interest. The Stones never really got caught up in politics. If you watch the movie “Gimme Shelter” which documents the disasterous concert, the Vietnam War was not mentioned once by ANYONE! The rock BAND(of course there were others and I’m excluding Dylan because he’s a complex figure who belongs in his own category and was not really ever part of a rock band, except for his short-lved experiment with The Band… and this writing is directed at ROCK BANDS. And I am not including folk, because practically the entire folk history IS based on politacl protest and commentary) that showed the most interest in these issues,(by that I mean actually writing ROCK and ROLL songs about the subject) were CSNY when they recorded “Ohio” in 1973, three full years AFTER the Kent state massacre. Stephen Stills’ masterpiece “What’s Goin’ Down” was recorded with a different group in 1968. The idea that the main thrust of Rock amd Roll music is about political protest is not really accurate. The main thrust of Rock and Roll has always been about excess– especially sexual excess. Jim Morrison wasn’t really attached to the hippie movement. He much preferred to be an agent provocatuer, and preffered to antogonize the hippie movement. Of course there was Woodstock. And many acts appeared, but the political thrust at that show was mostly fueled by the folk movement with the possible exception of Jimi Hendrix’s Star Spangled Banner. The Who certainly didn’t address those issues, Janis Joplin (to my recollection didn’t),CSN made their first concert appearance there and THEY didn’t have any political songs in their set. And if you really analyze the real sentiment of the crowd, yes they were there in promotion of peace, but their main motivations were sex and drugs and seeing a great rock and roll show (once again THE REAL motivation of Rock music) And if you look at Led Zeppelin THE BAND of the early seventies there are virtually no songs that deal with politics.

I won’t even bother commenting on fools arguing Eddie V’s political commentary as if this is something new to rock and roll (and in particular for festivals like Lollapalooza) I mean are you kidding me? Anyway while I would have loved to see Daft Punk I think that all the folks claiming it was the best headliner obviously missed Ben Harper’s set. If any of you have not seen Ben and the IC, I suggest checking them out at the earliest opportunity.

“Re: Re:Dear Confused”

In a way you are contradicting yourself if you have been a PJ fan since their inception. Music is an artform which is interpreted any way which you choose to perceive it. You have chosen to feel insulted by Eddie Vedder’s opinions, but yet you listen to their music? That doesn’t make any sense. Why don’t you write a letter to their fan club or something to express your disdain about Eddie more directly? All I can say is that I’ve always enjoyed PJ’s music and concerts, and I think that Eddie is great singer, songwriter and performer.

“Rock & Roll” the ideal (as opposed to any non-Classical music in general) is based on political proselytizing, PERIOD. If you don’t understand this fact you’re a pawn, PERIOD!!! “On the cover a Rolling Stone” now means to be a consumerist idol and kitsch-pushin’ hack. Look at one! I know the head-ass combo can be enticing (even tickles the prostate a little which is nice) but take a whiff of your situation, you sound like crap. Hopefully Rock & Roll will join hip-hop among the inconsequential detritus sooner than later… It’s been said so many times but just look at how many people have posted comments saying the same thing! “Stephen, you see what’s happening right now, you’re hitting bottom… Come on now, this is where the healing begins… Come on…. COME ON”

Yes

“Re:Re:Dear Confused”

Obviously (condoms)…know anything else about that topic, or does it stop there for you? It also seems like you should direct your spiel about your dislike for Eddie Vedder towards Mr. Vedder himself, don’t you think? Because the rest of us don’t care that “you” have a problem with Eddie voicing his own opinion. It’s called freedom of speech.

use condoms

i was there and i can’t wait to tell my kids about it.

Why don’t you share your thoughts then about “female reproductive issues”? Go ahead, tell everyone here what you know about that topic.

Don’t you go by another name like, “Van Gogh?” If you do, we’ve clashed before. I’m glad to see you back on the scene after some apparent intense finger painting. I remember Pearl Jam from December 1990 when they won on a band competion show where they explained how they came up with the name Pearl Jam. They Rock. I bought TEN the day it came out, waited on line the day VS. came out. I bought all their albums until they went into hiding and I lost track and interest in them. I’m certainly not a teenager. But it’s simple: Why must Eddie Vedder do this?
What’s the point? I think people have come to their own conclusions on the war and other issues. Why must he puff out his chest and pontificate in his stream of consciousness and often incoherent style. I remember when PJ did their Unplugged concert and he scrawled “freedom of choice” on his forearm. Wasn’t this settled in 1973? Bill Clinton was in the White House and pro-choice was not in any kind of danger. I recall many female fans being insulted and asking “what does Eddie Vedder know about female reproductive issues?” It was cheesy and tasteless then and it’s the same now. I never hear Kurt Cobain (remember I said I never heard him say,it doesn’t mean he didn’t say things on those issues) going on about such things. Nor Layne Staley, Chris Cornell, nor even Axl Rose (who’s has a brain despite what a lot of people seem to think). People don’t care (not all people). But I would say the majority(I could be wrong, it’s just an opinion) are rubbed the wrong way when people with all the advantages think they have some kind of God-given duty to tell the rest of us what to think. Is he some kind of great mind or philosopher? No. He’s a talented guy in a rock band who, I think, insults the intelligence of his fans by telling them what to think. I know you’re back and forth kind of arguer but dealing with you (if you are who I think you are) is exhausting. I have a right to my opinion and I feel you should concentrate on your own thoughts rather than chirping on and on about mine. Van Gogh may be great, but Charles Bukowski (the poet) is far more intriguing.

re: Dear Bleeding Heart. | 8/7/200

Re: “Maybe you teenagers have time to worry about things like Citibank. I’ve have to figure out a way to raise my children my in this confusing world which you contribute nothing but confusion to. You can stomp your little feet all you want to, but Eddie Vedder is not a font of wisdom. He’s a rock singer in a good band who has a over inflated opinion of himself, and you’re contributing to it.”

What would you know about Eddie Vedder? Have you ever taken the time to listen to Pearl Jam’s song lyrics? To some fans, those lyrics send out important messages, which are open to interpretation anyway. Eddie has the right to voice his opinions, and you don’t have to listen if you don’t want to - nobody is forcing you. And just for the record, a lot of Pearl Jam fans ARE NOT teenagers!

You have revealed your own lack of music appreciation. To say “MMJ lacked substance” is a truly ignorant statement by someone who missed out on the performance of the festival. Kings rocked and obviously, as did PJ. Sunday was one of the best musical days of my life.

Go bleed on someone else; I just took a shower. Listen buddy, I’ve got a family to raise and bills to pay. Maybe you teenagers have time to worry about things like Citibank. I’ve have to figure out a way to raise my children my in this confusing world which you contribute nothing but confusion to. You can stomp your little feet all you want to, but Eddie Vedder is not a font of wisdom. He’s a rock singer in a good band who has a over inflated opinion of himself, and you’re contributing to it.

Eddie, thanks for telling me what to think. I am a robot and I need programming… You “forgot” to mention that one of the festival’s sponsors, Citibank, is already commiting heinous acts all over the planet. Hmm…

Iggy and the Stooges stole the show! PJ could take a lesson.

1. Iggy and the Stooges
2. Modest Mouse
3. Cold War Kids
4. Pearl Jam

Dear Johnny Rumble,
If you need some rock star to tell you what to think then you really have problems. Yeah,yeah, yeah the war sucks; we all know this. I need Eddie Vedder to explain this to me? Learn to think for yourself. There was a time in rock history (not very long ago) where this type of political grandstanding was considered very distasteful and frowned upon. Denis Leary has some pretty interesting thoughts on the subject in “No Cure For Cancer.” Believe me, buddy you’re talking to someone that’s anything but a “retard”. And if that’s the kind of vocabulary you use to insult someone, you should defiitely get out if the insulting business, because you don’t have it!

daft punk was by far the best. followed by lcd soundsystem, and yeah yeah yeahs.

Fav five sets:

1. Daft Punk
2. TV on the Radio
3. STS9
4. Pearl Jam
5. Muse
5a. The Roots

Daft Punk… seriously… you have to see it to believe it.

All the music was great (as it is was anticipated). Regina Spektor, Smoosh, The Cribs and The View, etc. are hungry musicians. The Black Keys had so much vigor and juice that they shorted-out a guitar and the sound system. Stephan Marley brought the Reggae heat. Spoon, Spoon, Spoon. Kings of Leon, Ben Harper and the Innocnent Criminals, My Morning Jacket, Silverchair, Son Volt, Interpol…all too much good stuff.

Perry Farrell was phenomenal with his band Satellite Party and phenomenal at Kidzapalooza (covering Led Zepplin and Perry classics like “Pets” and “Summertime Rolls”). In unique fashion, it was revealed (once again) that Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam are the God-fathers of a revived musical generation.

If you think PJ or RS is going to drop the politics, consider: “Rolling Stone was founded on the recognition that rock & roll was a powerful new political force”, “the magazine began with the premise that political change would come as a result of the bold new music of the 1960’s and youth’s taste for it.” ~Issue 1,000 ——- Rolling Stone now embodies Jann Wenner’s connsumeristic agitprop on the Colbert Report whose smugness was rather ironic considering his OBVIOUS obliviousness. I think I could hear my $80 screaming for home louder than Veddy’s partially-coherent attempt at general communication, shell-shock assuagement, and Anti-Americanism satiation which in this article’s title is simply, and pathetically revered as “fitting”. A purple-hart-decorated, Iraq veteran (and good friend) who stood next to me at the show probably liked it as much as the shrapnel in his ass, and I bet disagreed with what I can only describe as Veddy’s Rhetorical Queef -> disgusting but still strangely laughable; also a good band name. Anyway, where’s the “change” Rolling Stone? You’re fired….. And if you’re not, keep fighting; you’ll lose vis-a-vis ME and my coterie. (jk, I don’t have a coterie) —— Please consider any note of irony you may sense after reading this. What again was/is the voice that doesn’t seem to be heard RS?

The best band at the fest this year was Muse. Pearl Jam was cool, but they were not the best headliner there. Here are my top five lolla performances.
1.) Muse
2.) Daft Punk
3.) Polyphonic Spree
4.) Rodrigo Y Gabriela
5.) The Roots

I was there as well, about 300 feet back. It was shoulder to shoulder and amazing. Great show. But, don’t forget about Muse the night before - also a great show, although not quite up to par with PJ. Then again, who can be?

Pearl Jam was amazing as ever. I’m screwed because I’ll go to other concerts the rest of my life but nothing can compare to that, EVER!

the third day was great but I swear that i have never dealt with a crowd as bad as lollapaloozas was….. especially on the third day at MMJ. They put on a really great show but it just fealt like no one cared, they were all PJ fans waiting…. really depressing.

Apparantly Pearl Jam fans don’t like having a good time. I ended up partying with a group of really, REALLY drunk MMJ fans who DID know how to have a good time.

I left after the show to see TV on the Radio mostly out of contempt for the crowd. Eh….

PEARL JAM SUCKS
and so do its fans.

My Morning Jacket was HORRIBLE…what a waste. No substance to their music whatsoever, just some idiot screaming his head off. PJ was insane, what a great show they put on. Long live Vedder and his politics, more influential artists should bring issues to the forefront, maybe the mindless parts of society will start thinking for themselves.

So this was the fifth time we’ve gone to see PJ, and it gets better every time. Thanks to Eddie! And to anyone (KingsX) who says to keep the politics to themselves. You are retarded, I think we’ve all had enough of sitting back silent. That’s what got us into the fucking mess we’re in. So if you’re going to sit back and shut up, then do just that…Sit back and shut the fuck up. There’s no room for doormats like you anyway!
Sincerely—Jonny Rumble

Pearl Jam’s energy was uncontainable! I watched it from home and I felt it! They showed everyone why they have such a huge fan base! Ed took full advantage of the massive crowd to get his message out there! I appreciate his passion to educate those out there who can make a difference! If we don’t have each other then who do we have???

Pearl Jam will always be the greatest rock band ever to me!

What a great concert. Lollapalooza Rocked this year. Pearl Jam was better than I could have imagined. My Morning Jacket and Kings of Leon were amazing. But I was awed by the Sam Roberts Band, which rocked!

anyone know where i can get mp3s of mmj’s performance?

DON’T GO to BP AMOCO! If not for Ed I wouldn’t know of their impending atrocities. PJ delivers more than profound music!

There’s no doubt that Pearl Jam completely rocks. But I’m sick and tired of hearing all of Eddie Vedder’s alcohol laced political opinions. Just shut the fuck up and rock. Would you please?

during the encore with ben I crowd surfed all the way up to the front and got hauled out by security while playing air guitar. cant imagine a better show

Was in the Lolla Lounge and it was a truly amazing experience I will never forget even if I couldn’t really see. Chilled with my guy, ate free food and drank free liquor and rocked out to PJ. The Wailers however were my ab favorite of the weekend. I closed my eyes and it was just like Bob Marley was there. Awesome vibe.

Eddie and the band will never leave the politics at home. Thank God.

Eddie: Keep the politics at home.

I was in the first 5 rows front and center and Pearl Jam was on fire. I’ve seen them numerous times and despite this being a short set it was awesome. Perfect mix of radio hits and fan club favorites. Plus, I was about the oldest person up there at 26. That’s a band that endures by winning over new fans for rock ‘n roll. Keep on rockin’ in the free world, PJ!

Word !…I was in the balcony…we smoked a bunch up there!
When they played Evenflow, I saw God…well,it could have been his son, I’m not sure.
It was a cool dude with a beard.

Peace.

Truly one of the greatest shows ive ever seen

That was an awesome day of music
My Morning Jacket and Kings of Leon kicked ass.

Pearl Jam…My God !! What a
Jaw-dropping performance. Their energy is just incredible. One of the best live bands ever !!

dude, I was in the 11th row and totally saw you there!

Correction to the article:

My Morning Jacket did not close with “Keep On Pushing” it was actually Curtis Mayfield’s “Move On Up.”

10th row? wow

There’s not a better American rock band. Pearl Jam absolutely rule.

I was blown away by Kings of Leon and My Morning Jacket. PJ was great, but I was personally more impressed by their “opening acts,” especially playing in front of mostly Pearl Jam fans who got to the stage early.

One of the best shows I have ever seen. Pearl Jam are rock gods! Vedder for President!

i was watching the broadcast on my computer. I was defineatly in the 10th row.

10 row huh? LMAO I was in the infield.
Great show.

I was there too, and there was no 10th row…However, PJ is amazing.

I was there, tenth row, it was ridiculously amazing.