Someone tell the lead hairball from Adler’s Appetite that desperation is unattractive.

Yeah…blatant cash grabbing is a complete turn off. He probably has some crappy tshirt line he hawks also.

Please stop with the hating. If Axl shows up, it’ll be great. Adler is an idiot but he’s dead on when he says a GNR reunion would be huge. Hell, we may even get Chinese Democracy out of the deal.

Headline:

There’s no news today.

go about your business.

the rolling stones charge like 300 for some seats. so, are the gnr seats going to cost 900? that would suck. Plus, theres no way axl will do the show.

This band SUCKS.

I’m as nostalgic as the next guy, but we shouldn’t forget that it’s been about 15 years since they’ve performed together, and personally, Velvet Revolver is sounding better than the leaked Chinese Democracy stuff that I’ve heard so far.

I think GnR should just stay gone so they won’t tarnish the memories that we have of them in their prime.

Dear Rolling Stone,
Please do what the rest of the world did in 1991:

GET OVER G’N R!

Judging by this years covers, you look like a pathetic jock who can’t move on from his adolescent glory days. RS, I now dub you the Uncle Rico of music writing.

Hey Aaron D. some of us have good memories from amazing GnR concerts from 06-07, so what your saying isnt making much sense nor is that your comparing studio work from VR to demo’s from GnR that are nothing more than unfinished work. And the last time I checked, the Better and Chinese Democracy Demotracks sounded a helluv’a lot better than anything on Libertad.

I’m gonna say this, Guns N’ Roses too me are a washed up act. They’re never gonna release Chinese Democracy. Why? Becuase they cant make good music.

Those of you who criticize RS for running a GN’R cover, consider this: If RS doesn’t give the public what it wants, then it would soon be out of business. They have to consider what their readers want or suffer the consequences, business-wise. Look at the other thread and how many comments were generated. That says a lot about the impact of GN’R and how it is still being felt to this day.

the best band ever: guns n´roses

Guns N’ Roses Forever!!!

There is pretty much no chance of Axl showing up. That would undermine all of his work and his recent tours with his new band. A lot of people will say “what work? Axl’s new GNR hasn’t event released one album yet.” True, but there has been a lot of shit going on behind the scenes and call me crazy……..but Chinese Democracy might actually see the light of day later this year. I have 7 demos from CD and they are promising.

Axl is the Britney Spears of lead singers. What a bitch. Stay where you are boys and watch as Axl slips ever closer to becoming Bill Bailey from the Mid-West. Reform the band without Axl. Money isn’t everything.

when a sober Scott Weiland can steal your bandmates, that tells you all you need to know about a future with G-n-R ever.

three times what the stones bring in? he’s surrounded by so many ass-kissers he’s become dillusional.

GNR had one good album, and 3 ok albums after that, axl rose is a washed up premadonna, he forced every member out of the band, if he wasn’t an asshole, GNR would have had like 4 or 5 great albums. i think he should just call it quits and realize that he is nothing without the real GNR. Velvet revolver is a pretty good band, not a one man circus act like GNR. if you are praying for a real rock reunion, pray for a Pink floyd reunion!!

Here is the problem though

The CD Leaks are as good if not better than anything on Libertad *Mainly cause Axl’s vocals and lyrics* I personally think Libertad’s music is way better, anyhow, the CD leaks are nowhere near comparison to GNR songs and that is the problem.

There are no amazing guitar riffs, no amazing guitar solos to speak of and take the CD leak, U got a bunch of dumb Pro Tools electronics inplace of where an amazing Signature guitar riff would be.

Guns N Roses are full of cover musicians. RObin Finck was a cover musician in NIN and he is now a cover musician in GNR.

If CD was a masterpiece, it would be out by now. Facts are there are NO Hits on it and the record label won’t release it till they have some.

Take “Better’ That song is the poppiest GNR song ever. Poppy for GNR is not good.

As a former GnR fanatic, but still a fan of their music (despite Axl’s Fake Guns N’ Posers), I am repulsed at these guys getting the front cover of RS. Think of all the bands that have yet to appear on the cover that have made great careers for themselves….Here’s my plug: Before they turn into the next Pink Floyd in terms of RS cover absence,Put Wilco on the cover!!! Stop wasting this subcribers time with old news!

Ha! The Uncle Rico of music writing! Good one!

just like talk of a Yardbirds reunion – who cares? and if they all show up and perform the entire album – who cares? let them go on the road and implode before the first gig. i’ll betcha someone dies. GNR is just as revelevant today as Michael Jackson – which means that they’re not. duh.

What music needs now more than ever is this reunion. If it includes Adler, it would be the most significant moment in music in years. Say what you want, these guys together again would be a kick in Rock n Roll’s lazy ass. I’m not holding my breath, but my fingers are surely crossed. “Everything was roses when we held onto the guns”.

GnR, 3 times as much as the Stones? Good luck with that. The Stone aren’t even worth what they get for a ticket today. Sounds like someone is overstating their importance….

Axel Rose,biggest wanker ever.Adler,washed up junkie>>>>NEXT

So he’s only gonna be in it for the money? Fuck Adler! Axl if anything; is an idealist and wouldn’t give in for these money grabbing antics. Music without passion means nothing; and early GN’R were all about raw power and passion.

Oh yes he can be that goofy and even more!

Machine,

I love how you say there are no hits on a record you haven’t heard. Thanks, that was worth a good chuckle. Also, you do realize that what has been leaked are only demos, not finalized album versions, right?

I think the guitar riff for the title track kicks bigtime ass, and Robin Finck’s great, melodic riff for “Better” is brilliant. Shows he’s more than just a “cover” musician as you so ignorantly stated.

Ali

Steven Adler smoked one to many glass dicks to think Axel with show up!

Didn’t i see him workin’ over at the carwash on Rampart?

Axel is over & done … everywhere but in his own mind … there he is a legend.

Forget GNR, put VR on the cover. They deserve it more.

Fuck Fall Out Boy.

A reunion…how sweet that would be .They could have a T.V. show and
audition a bunch of metal-head singers.Brittany Spears would be my choice for the Axl replacement.

Now this is what I’m talkin about – the original GNR lineup! I’m sorry but Axl by himself with a make-shift back up band playing old GNR tunes cannot be considered GNR. That’s like Plant and Page playing together with a new drummer and bassist and calling themselves Led Zeppelin. I’m a big fan of the original GNR lineup but not a fan of Axl or Slash in other projects.

Slash,Izzy,Duff,and Steven: all bad asses! I don’t know, Axl. How did you expect to replace all those guys and think anyone would still want to listen to you anymore? Rock B

Even if people don’t like Axl, or Gn’R, or whatever, we need some real rock n’ roll to get headlines again. We have rap forced on us all over the place and crap rock music, so let’s just hope this reunion does happen. It will atleast put real music back in the headlines once again, instead of Fall Out Boy and T Pain. I think everyone here would agree that this would be a good thing, even if you don’t like Gn’R.

Chicago Country singer, Donald Moreland, will be attending the show. All the girls will go crazy and scream for him and beg for a kiss. They will forget about the show.

Adler sounds like a decent guy, but his “I know they will be there, I just know it” stuff is kinda sad.

Izzy is way cooler than all of them. And his solo CDs are better than VR

Izzy wrote most of the great stuff on Use your Illusions 1,2, and ode to the 3rd.

nakputa ka!

“It’s just too big. Whatever the Stones make when they play, we’d triple it. It’d be ridiculous not to do it. He can’t be that goofy.”

quotable quote right there

Is Buckethead going to be there?

Gun N Roses=peaked in 1987. If onyl they could have walked away before bloated, pompous and bad rock was produced.

AXl would be wise to loosen his weaves and agree to a reunion.

Adler couldn’t drum his way out of a closet, bring back Sorum instead.

Slash and Duff are doing fine work with Velvet Revolver, and Frankly, Wieland’s voice is not dated like Axl’s was.

I hope they get togeteher for at least a couple of songs. steven, izzy, slash,duff. ohh but fuck axl

i hope they play a song together at least

Axl’s voice is dated? That’s like saying Janis Joplin’s voice is dated since the both have that bluesy howl.

Steven Adler looser playing is what gave the old material it’s groove. Matt Sorum is more of a power drummer, but for GN’R’s material, I think Adler is better.

Ali,

comparing Axl’s voice to Janis Joplin is like comparing Rolls Royces and Yugos becuase they are both cars.

Guns really did kick music in the teeth in 1987-1989, but then the pomposity of Axl’s delusional importance set in.

Guns helped usher out the horrific hair metal era with their combo of classic rock bombastics and punk rock attitude.
For that we can all be forever thankful..

IZZY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Axl does in fact blow goats. Weiland needs to get back with STP.

Izzy Stradlin is the coolest man in rock.

That’s all anyone needs to know.

Bob Saget’s Revenge,

Big fan of your work.

I’ve heard many people, who don’t know GN’R at all, compare Janis Joplin to Axl and vice versa. They have very similar raspy, bluesy howls. The only difference is Axl is a guy singing primarily in the upper part of his range.

I don’t understand your comment about Axl’s “delusional importance”. First off, is it fair to judge something like that when you don’t even know the man? I don’t think so. Second, if you had a problem with the UYI records, keep in mind, they featured a lot of songs written entirely by Izzy, in addition to songs written entirely by Axl. Slash also generated what became “Coma” and wrote the music for “Locomotive” and “Don’t Damn Me”. All of which I happen to think are brilliant.

everytime i listen to a VR song i hear amazing riffage from slash and duff but then weilands annoying druggie whiney voice with no range kicks in and it ruins the song. Same with his half-baked lyrics. i dont know if Axl “still has it”, but i’d rather have him playing with the rest of the band than listen to another infuriating VR album that comes so close… but yet is so far away.

oh, and Slash is god.

that is all.

Hey Ali,

You seem to be up on all things GNR. Do you got any idea on when Chinese Democracy might come out (last reported was march I think)? I’ve heard all the songs on youtube etc. (which are good except madagascar-in my opinion) but havent heard the “big guns” Sorry & Checkmate? You got any info on either of those tunes?

Later

IZZY RULES.NUFF SAID

Izzy was the glue. That is all.

I am as big a GNR fan as anyone, but there should come a time when you realize IT ISN’T GOING TO HAPPEN.

Like other fans, I was enthused by last year’s “Only 13 Tuesdays left” teaser. And I was downright ecstatic about this year’s “official” release date.

So where, exactly, is the album?

After a decade and a half of waiting, listening to unfinished demos, and listening to endless “updates” along the lines of ‘We’re done recording, we’re finishing the mixing … it won’t be long now,’ I’ve finally done what you shold, too …

REALIZED IT ISN’T GOING TO HAPPEN.

Not the album, not the reunion. Nothing.

So just try to appreciate Velvet Revolver and move on already.

bobjones, I have to say that I agree in the sense that Slash and Duff/Matt are my favorite parts of VR, but I’ll say that I think Weiland has a good tone to his voice and has good melodies on the new record.

Billy Rickard,

I wish I knew man, but no one does. The only thing I can say that I’ve read the band members say is that they are not touring the rest of the year to focus on setting up the record’s release. FYI, one hurdle I read about is GN’R and Geffen/Interscope renegotiating GN’R’s contract. Those talks didn’t get serious until GN’R’s demos were played for the label.

Ali

Axl has a very high range with his voice, but Scott’s is very eclectic and I think can be applied to whatever Slash and co. wanna play. Their music is fun, and you can tell when you stick Libertad into that CD slot.

Amazingly, I think the haters on here are the fans of the same music that us GNR, VR, and other “real” rock music fans hate on.

All you GnR haters or so called hardcore fans Guns n Roses consist of Axl Rose, Robin Finck, Richard Fortus, Tommy Stinson, Bumblefoot, Brain, Chris Pittman, Frank Ferrer, Dizzy Reed. Now reason Chinese Democracy isn’t out is.

A. Paul Tobias left the band umm lets see Josh Freese left and Buckethead left. Its pretty hard to put out a album when you have band members leaving left and right. Now Axl has his band in place.

B. Legal issues/ Record contract im sure there is contract issues that need to be re worked maybe they want another 3 more albums after this maybe Axl didn’t live up to his old deal who knows time will tell.

C. New band members means they half to let the fans and general public know this ain’t slash and co so they tour overseas’s US in 06/07 now its time to set up the record release.

D. is for Democracy cause there is gonna be a little surprise soon.

i forgot my sig..

Fuck Fall Out Boy

“They’re never gonna release Chinese Democracy. Why? Becuase they cant make good music.”

Wow, that’s fuckin’ wise, thanks a lot, dude!

As many stupid fucks here as in Blabbermouth…

Cal … are you serious? “They have to let the fans and general public know this ain’t Slash and co.”

I might be waaaaay out on a limb here, but I feel fairly confident that anyone who has the slightest remaining interest in this band is probably aware that “Slash and co.” haven’t been in GNR for a decade now.

As for the record being delayed by band members’ departures, has it occurred to you that perhaps they left because they eventually were put off by Axl’s incessant failure to ever actually put out the album?

As for “legal issues,” that’s your one relevant topic, although not for the reasons you mention. The only “legal issue” that ought to be of any consequence now is Geffen suing to recoup the millions it’s spent on an album that will never actually get released.

I don’t know if anyone ever saw it, but a few years ago CourtTV did a thing on Steven Adler. I guess he had a stroke as a result of his drug/alcohol abuse a while ago and he was suing GNR for royalties/unlawful termination (something like that)…anyway, he was living in an apartment and playing drums along with Appetite for Destrucion playing on the stereo in the background…it was pretty sad. I felt bad for the guy.

If Axl shows up i will eat my hat

For everthing there is a season – and GnR’s season was then. This is now.

Lets hope axl will pull his minds together and do a decent thing (we’re all waiting for since the day slash left…) REUNITE! At least for the money

What happened to the gnr legacy is a crying shame because the original 5 piece were the last great rock band. While some of the new material haunting the internet is alright, its not gnr. Take a deep breath and accept that their time is over. For those waiting for this new album, what exactly has changed since 2001’s statement of ‘final mixing, few touches here and there, and its done’?. Wake up and move on with your lives.

It seems like every thread on this site gets flooded with people OBSESSED with “relevance”. “So-and-so is not relevant, blah, blah, waa-waa.” Hey, thanks for showing everyone else what SHEEP you all are, assholes! The only music you listen to is what you deem as “hip” at this very moment. You people are the type that will be on a different bandwagon in six months once the hype clears. Nice way to think for yourselves.

I, and lots of others, don’t need others to tell us what or who we need to like.

Now, I raise my glass to “Appetite’s” anniversary. That album was a diamond in the cesspool of ’80s gloss.

http://www.chopaway.com is the correct address for Stradlins fansite, not /news.php.

Also, Duff has posted the sad news that his father died last night on his homepage. I doubt he will be showing up now Condolences to Duffs family.

Mr. Brownstone,

Paul Tobias left because he wasn’t up for the touring lifestyle. Josh Freese left and has since said he has no ill will towards Axl and enjoyed his time working with him. Those departures did have an affect on the album as their parts were re-recorded by those who were sticking with the band and touring.

How can Geffen sue Axl for money they volunteered to make the record? GN’R and Geffen/Interscope have been/were in negotiations regarding the recording contract. What exactly was being debated is unknown, but the renegotiation was confirmed by GN’R’s former manager.

Ali

…and why are people discussing Chinese Democracy?

Axls new album has nothing to do with (a) Izzys comments above or (b) the “Reunion” at the Key Club.

After reading your online intro to the article about 20yrs since appetite, please tell me you morons didnt actually print the song title as “Rock Queen” in your actual rag.

There’s an AMAZING new book coming out with never before seen pics, interviews and more. Check out RECKLESSROAD.com – a definitely collector’s item.

Listen i love this new issue with guns on the cover… Thanks for mentioning such a breakthrough album….Theres more i say but im to tired but i do wanna say guns kick ass and I chinese democracy starts now!!!!!!!!!!

Ali,

You are such an Axl apologist that you come across as highly naive. “Not up for the touring lifestyle”? “I enjoyed my time working with him and have no ill will”?

How many musicians have uttered the same words upon leaving a band because they’re either too diplomatic or too exasperated to instead utter the more appropos and more truthful “I just couldn’t take it anymore and had to get the hell out”?

As for the lawsuit, I was being flippant originally and still don’t believe it would ever actually happen, but upon further review, it probably wouldn’t be impossible, if the label decided to pursue it. After all, one would assume a contract was in place when said millions were willingly spent. And since “Chinese Democracy” is still a theoretical album as opposed to an actual one at this point, the argument could be made that Axl is in breach of said contract.

Were I the Geffen exec who greenlighted that deal, I might be concerned about that albatross hanging over my head.

would be nice to hear them regroup and put out that fabled album, there comes a time when the fans forget about the group, and move forward..then they’ll be wondering why they cant sell music.just as van halen with dlr…just put the music out ..dont have to love each other..make music, make money…

axl rose fucking rules………..
Chinese democracy will fucking kicks ass…..i hope all choke you fucks….axl fucking rose for lifeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

siempre guns n’ roses………….

VIVA AXL FUCKING ROSE….ps…steven is a sad junkie who wants to cash in..just like the rest of the band..axl rules too much to sell out to those fucking maggots………….

axl fucking rules

steve,
What kind of lead singer doesn’t show up for his own 20th anniversary concert? If Axl “rules” so much, wouldn’t the “no show” be more like a “screw you” to all his fans? Fans like you who have contributed to Axl’s wealth…what is he giving to you now in return? Axl doesn’t even show up for his own concerts, and continually keeps letting down his own bandmembers and fans. So what else is new.

They could TRIPLE what the Stones make? BULLSHIT!!!
They would have to charge 600 dollars for prime seats thru Ticket Master plus a finance charge.
Plus didn’t they used to open for the Stones?
The Stones have put out endless albums from 62 to now, and they have maintained most of the original members since then….
Plus the Stones are GREAT and Guns and Roses are a good hard rock band
with about 5 albums… with only about three of those that are actually good.

Mr. Brownstone,

You don’t know me, so don’t make comments referring to my character. You only make yourself look foolish.

The reason given by Axl for Paul Tobias’ departure was that he wasn’t up for touring. I’ve read interviews with Josh Freese where he said people ask him for Axl stories and he says he doesn’t have any and that Axl was cool to him. What incentive would Josh Freese have to lie after he’s left GN’R and is no longer being paid? None. You are the one being naive. You have no evidence to claim there is any animosity towards Axl Rose from either of these men. None. There is nothing naive about sticking to what’s been said and not interjecting my own feelings and opinions towards someone.

There is no lawsuit, and will never be a lawsuit. You can’t accuse someone of being in breach of contract for taking a long time to complete a record. You’re also assuming that the length of time it’s taken is solely due to Axl. How do you know that’s true? You don’t. You only know what you read like everyone else, including me. Unlike you, I don’t substitute hearsay for fact. Now, who’s the naive one?

Ali

Mr. Brownstone,

A quote from Axl Rose: “Paul helped us a lot in the writing and the recording of this record and to me was a vital part of not only the band but also my life. The world tour really wasn’t his cup of tea whereas he’s much more comfortable in a studio setting.”

A quote from Josh Freese: “Axl was always nice to me and always generous. People want to hear horror stories, but I personally don’t have any. And Maynard is a serious artist who, on one hand in regular life, could be as normal as you or I.”

Ali

Ali,

Simmer down, tiger, before you have a massive coronary or aneurysm. You’re right, I don’t know you. And you’re right again to say all I know is what I read, just the same as you.

Here’s the difference (and, in turn, the reason I think you are naive) …

I don’t take everything at face value. Just because they’ve told the press that everything was peaches and cream doesn’t actually make it “fact,” as you would like to believe.

A quote in a magazine or an MTV interview, or whatever, is not the same as “facts” or “truth.”

Were there issues? Who really knows? None of us were in the studio with them, so you’re right — I have no “evidence.” All I’m saying is, it’s not unreasonable to believe that, considering Axl pretty much drove out everyone in the former incarnation of the band. It also does not take too much of a stretch of the imagination to imagine new members being put off by endless delays in releasing the record.

As for your suggestion that the album’s delay is not all Axl’s fault, come on, that really in naive. Who do you think is calling the shots? Robin Finck?

You can believe what you want, I suppose. Even that Axl is an exemplary human being who has never caused any problems for anyone. I’m just suggesting that perhaps when you look at these “facts” you’re so desperately clinging to, you might view them with a bit of cynicism/skepticism, whatever. Take them with a grain of salt …

After all, you may not believe it, but not everything you read is true.

Brownstone,

Just as you can call me naive for taking things at face value, I can call you a cynic for assuming that there is something lurking beneath the statements being made. As I said, what incentive would Josh Freese have to lie about Axl Rose when he no longer works with him? There is none.

You can always assume the worst, but without any basis in fact or in the words of people who are actually a part of GN’R and know Axl, it’s all just idle speculation. That’s all it is. Just like you saying that Axl “drove out” everyone in the old incarnation of the band. You saying that is just believing one version of events, not another. The truth is, none of us know what happened with the old band for sure. We never will. But to blame it all on Axl seems unrealistic. How many things in life are that black and white?

I’m not saying the delay in the album is another band member’s fault, but if you really have been paying attention, you’d know that there have been several lawsuits involving Axl. Obviously, those things take away from time being spent on the album. If he is a perfectionist, like some claim he is, then, yes, I’m sure that’s a major hinderance. But, the only one? Don’t think so.

Tell me, where did I ever say that Axl Rose is an exemplary human being? Never. I wouldn’t say that because I don’t know him. And it’s because I don’t know him and know that no one else posting on this website or any of the other GN’R forums don’t know him, that I say, “No, you’re going off nothing to say that. You’re just tossing out a theory and trying to pass it off as fact.”

I’m sure the new band members are put off by the album’s delay in its release. Anyone would be. But, Tommy Stinson’s been there for 9 years, Robin Finck for 10, and Dizzy Reed for 17 years. Not enough being put off to quit, though. Obviously.

Ali

GnR were, at best, the best of the sloppy rock and rollers from L.A. late 80’s. In 2007 they are a nostalgia act.

Izzy is still the coolest of them all. He was the bridge between Axl and the others. The only one who has remained friends with all of them.

you will stay in my heart roses!!!!!
and i am as like as izzy

look, am i the only one who knows why axl realesed chinese democracy with those songs?
when he find out that checkmate or wahtever its name is was leaked he realesed the album with the songs that had bein leaked and the ones he said that will be on the album because he wants that all that shit of leaking songs stop that why he did it so he’s keeping the best songs of what he left to the next album