Haha Nicky….totally agree with you…you hit the nail on the head..she only dissed that stuff in an attempt 2 try to b cool (which i never bought it, always thought she was trying 2 hard) and then ended up like who she hardcore criticized. Very lame..and yes, nothing wrong with change or evolving, but this girl never knew who she was. I dont think she ever really “changed” I think she was a poser from the start so how can someone fake like that really change? Like u said Nicky, avril, own up to it! If you like pop, do pop!..& embrace it, ur not rock or punk, just face it and quit dissing pop because that IS what u do, POP!… about how u said she was better when she DIDNT write her own songs….lol thats hilarious…but u know she only cowrote this dumb album too…she cowrote it while drunk with luke gottwald….so she cant even write a song herself 4 anything… she doesnt know anything about punk culture like she “tried” 2 pulloff. Cumon’ saying ur the “next sid vicious of this gen” (she wishes) but in same interview dont know who sex pistols are??? She namedropped in an attempt 2 sound cool or knowledged & ended up sounding like a wannabee fool. lol this girl is such a wannabee im almost embarrassed 4 her! cumon avril, fess up to some of your misleadings…maybe some ppl would actually b able to give u credit 4 that!

I liked her better when she didn’t write her own music… Because at least then some tracks weren’t absolute crap written in thirty minutes with repeating lyrics and childish content…

And about the change in her demeanor… I’m all about changing to evolve but when someone changes into the thing they said they hated (she based her whole career on the fact that she wasn’t bubblegum pop and was a punk chick though I bet she couldn’t tell you who wrote “Rock the Casbah” to save her life) then there is clearly a problem. If you like pop, do pop. If yoy like punk, do PUNK. And, if you like Punk pop (I confess I do, some of it) then do Punk Pop. Just own up to it. Embrace it. Don’t deny it and diss it in an attemp to seem cool and tough You end up seeming pathetic.

And for Goodness’ sake spend some fucking time writing a song. The first thing that comes out of your head should not be immediatelly turned into a track (think “Hot”). And would it kill you to record sober? You don’t have the experience that drunk recording requires.

Man, this whole record is sloppy and looks like it was put together in less than a week. And I’m trying to be nice about it

she stole it! she sucks big time…she couldnt write something on her own and make it a hit 4 anything!haha

I dont think most of the ppl here think she is fake cuz she has changed…evry1 changes. Personally I have thought she was fake EVER SINCE she came out…the whole “skater” thing was just too manufactured imo..just tried too hard to b different,seemed kinda lost and too cliche… never caught my attention musically..but i do have an opinion of her character as well, and thats that she does take credit where credit isnt due..ur right there r sum who have help writing their songs and thats ok…but ppl with any character dont say “I” wrote this when the ppl who actually did write alot of her songs say she only changed a couple words here & there…that’s lame…the songs werent even good…musically, shes only mediocre, sumthing u could see at the local fair…as a person, she is abhorent.

Avril has change, no doubt about that. Yes ahe is no the best singer in the world but who is. i listen to the songs and yeah there close but no the same. She has change but marriage does that. She become more preppy but not everyone like that is a sellout. She keeps on most of her clothes unlike paris hilton and brittany spears. And for anyone that doesn’t like that is your opinion but for the person who comment about her stealing your song if she stole your song how come yours never got to the radio. come on people at least come up with better lies. She does write her songs with other people but that doesn’t mean they do all the work.
She is not my favorite singer not even close but if you are going to make up some stories about how she stole songs at least make sure they are some of her better songs.

haha…lol so hard at all these comments…i agree w/ so many of them..she never wrote her own music, “let go” was mostly written by the matrix get ur info right, and evan and avril did write sum 2gether as well, but if u notice those songs sucked…2nd album written by chantal and co-written by avril…and yes! these songs are very similar..also the biggest poser in music…evrything cums out in end.

She totally ripped them off…doesnt surprise me though with her, she’s been taking credit for things she doesnt do since she came out! What a hippocritical poser! Lame…

we love u avril lavigne xxx

I would like to say I agree with ZEUS & VTFARMBOY when said that avril lavigne is a manufactured puppet of the record companies who mainly appealed to young ones that were tired of christina/brit so they tried to market her as this “hardcore singer who writes her own music.” For real music lovers, she just came across as manufactured, fake and kinda like a poser, because it seemed like she was trying just a little too hard, with nothing really special about her or her music… But whatever….she didnt give proper credit where credit was due, and that is the debate here. The debate isnt whether A 17 yr old can write music or not, because it wasnt anything a 17 yr old couldnt write, it was very juvenile music, but the fact of the matter is that people are saying shes not being honest about her “songwriting skills” and the reason people are focusing on her is because of how many people are making this claim about her, even people she has worked with before. Not because her songs were anything special or extraordinary and not because she is rich/famous as a couple have said here, because there are alot of much more rich and famous,very musically talented singer/songwriters that nobody is questioning, and that is because they are more authentic and dont have all of these claims against them. She should have never marketed herself as the songwriter for her songs, or a songwriter period, that is what makes her fake and pretty much a poser. People dont like that, people like real people and this girl is just not real. Hopefully she will get to know herself someday. And to Zebo Rogun and GIMMEABREAK, if she is just “paying tribute” to PEACHES then why doesnt she just say that instead of denying the songs sound alike. If I were paying tribute to someone I respected I would want them to know. Beyonce gave credit to Stevie Nicks when she used the rhythm from “Seventeen” for her song “Boodylicious” she made that clear that is where she got the rhythm and that is real, she didnt deny it. If Avril is simply paying tribute, then why is she denying it? Hmmmmmmm. Sounds like Avril has more of a career in lying and self doubt than anything else. What a shame!

AVRIL SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with Zeus.

At the time avril lavigne came out, people were tired of the whole brit and christina dance inspired pop and were in need of something different. Record companies knew that but what the companies did to make her stand out was “clever” for alot of the young impressionable people,(same age as brit or christina lovers) but in actuality it looked a little fake and manufactured, but then her pr reps promoted “she writes all of her own music” so that gave her a little more something than the average 17 yr old pop star, still the music wasnt very good, just catchy beats. I personally never cared for her or owned any of her music, (buthave heard it)..nothing special…average/bad in my opinion, even if “written by her” and that was the only real appeal at the time. So then you find out shortly after that she didnt even really write the songs from any of her albums, but “co-wrote” which means she could have added the word “the” and still have credit for writing the song. Her first album was mostly written by the Matrix, and they and Chantal Kreviazuk, who she wrote her 2nd album with both have said the same thing that she just adds a few lyrics hereand there, “but doesnt really sit and write any music by herself” which then, that took away any kind of anything that she had over anyone else, which to go along with that 2me shows her character which i think was obvious from the beginning, manufactured fake. You dont hear people questioning norah jones or alicia keyes, and that is because they didnt put on an obviously fake image to try to stand out, because the only people that would think avril is diff because she threw on a necktie and some wristbands couldnt be over the age of 15. And now the fact that she is being accused of taking others songs…doesnt surprise me too much because she really cant come up with anything good on her own anyway Also, maybe she didnt steal the music intentionally or unintentionally, perhaps her WRITERS did. I think she has and always REALLY has been in the same category as brit and chris just trying too hard to go the other way which doesnt make u real at all. Just be urself and dont criticize other artists to try to make urself look good, because it does the obvious, and avril i play some guitar, and know a little piano, but i would never go on the music scene and claim to be these things like u have, be real avril. Your true imposter self is really coming out now, really sad, maybe u should have stuck to country music. Listen to some Hole they are a real rock band that did everything on their own including making the band not having a record company hand one over to u.

First of all, Avril has NEVER written her own music anyway, and it doesnt matter because it sucked anyway. She was just a little town girl who liked to sing and got a break and conformed to what her brilliant record execs wanted her to do which was throw on a necktie and some wristbands and be the anti britney…. and to top it off promote that she writes her own songs! How clever was that. It was just timing because if she came out of nowhere right now that is where she would stay NOWHERE. She is nothing special in my opinion, and she is and always will be a phony manufactured fake, she tries too hard to be different and its obvious, that just makes her a poser. I think anyone who pretends to play guitar in songs or skate when she is not really a skater shows their character and is simply a poser, which she has always been so she cant really be a sellout, right. Now give me a girl who plays all her instruments for real, writes her own music and started her own band, not being given one by her record company, then I would consider her a true rocker. And as far as these songs go…peaches and the rubinoos, they sound almost identical in some parts, along with the accusations of chantal and the matrix, i dont really consider this a coincidence. Also, try listening to the melody of her favorite song “Iris” by goo goo dolls and ” I’m with you” Pretty funny huh? Oh well, she will learn eventually to be herself if she still has a career after this. later.

Avril Has Never Stolen A Song In Her Life The Melody Maybe The Same Byt Lyrics Are The Most Important.
Fuck All You Haters.

Nothing against Avril but she admitted to being drunk in the studio. She probably just used the beat and didn’t know it was the Peaches song until her song was pretty well established. Perez said he wants to ruin Avril’s career so that jackass pointed the similarities out before listening to the beat. Take it from the drummer here “Avril’s goes
1-2-3-4
1-2-3-4-5
The beat on Peaches goes
1-2-3
1-2-3
and then progresses to
1-2-3-4
1-2-3
Not the same . . .” And another thing: so many artists have copied each other over the years so why should this be such a big deal?

The issue here isnt steeling its giving proper credit where it is due. Avril is simply a tool being used by the record companies. Her management and the record companies have pushed her as a songwriter. it is obvious she takes influence from others. Just admit it pay up and this is over. Look at all the bands and writers in the past who denied it till the end and fell flat….. Rappers take samples and use material all the time. They give proper credit to the sorce and pay up. Millions of dollars are collected by BMI and ASCAP every year from small bands who cover songs performed and writen by others. Just admit what you did and lets move on. Deny and you will never live it down and go thru eternaty as a cheater

I cant honestly believe that avril is that aware of music, in terms of different genres or bands from the past 20/30 years, she is too shallow & naively deluded to listen in the first place, let alone make a conscious decision to rip someone off.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……….. .

Good writers steal, bad writers plagerize.

Kiss Card please…Where ya goin’? Just out for a little while. What are you and the ladies up to? Shopping. When will you be back, baby. When we’re finished…Gives kiss…Well, when is that?..Another peck, this time on Forehead I don’t know Gene, it could be 45 minutes, could be a day, could be a month, I’ll keep ya posted…Hold on,baby,wait…See you later, honey… –Michael McKeon

He’s baaaaack…

I ripped this bitch off,too!

This bitch ripped me off, too.

Cowboy…quotations kill!

When the apirit wanes the form appears–Chinsasli

On four…Okay…1-2-3-4 Sa-tur-day, Night. Sa-tur-day, Night…CUT,CUT,FUCK FUCK ME,CUT,CUT! Cut? Why did you cut? You don’t know why? What? What? You know what the fuck,what? (pause)AHHH,GOD…WHO? The Bay City Rollers. Oh, fuck me, fuck me,FUCK ME..I hate this shit! Come out of the booth baby…12 seconds pass…So did you get it? Yeah of course,I got it. Hands IT to her. Where’s the rest of it? Don’t worry, I got it, baby. Now just take a break, go in the back, party with your friends for a half hour, and then we’ll get back into it…. rockbutterfly

But, our songs…I want our songs to be different. I want somethin’ that we can wrap ourselves inside of…forever. That’s the most you’ll ever get out of me, Wordman. Ever

(sorry for the double post. I thought my post didnt go through, feel free to delete one)

That is stupid and misleading!!
Rolling Stone you ought to be ashamed and have it removed or reworded.

Lavigne’s manager obviously needs to brush up on either his BAND HISTORY or sense of humor because the Raspberries were active then BROKE UP before the Rubinoos ever released material so the Raspberries could not have possibly ripped them off because none of their songs were even PUBLISHED yet.

It’s just Avrils manager’s lame attempt to distract people (who are gullible) from the real issue.

Raspberries last new material:
1974

Rubinoos signed:
1975

Rubinoos first album: 1977

So the Raspberries came first and broke up before the Rubinoos were even active so any reference made to them stealing songs is either a joke due to their sounds being similar, or outright lie.

Lavigne’s manager is trying to use this to trick people.

The Beatles!! Who (especially in music) doesn’t know what Era the Beatles were active/famous in??

Well, i’ll point it out to those who have forgot. The Beatles were active in 60s until 1970.

Do you notice something there?
The Rubinoos didn’t even form until YEARS later. Even their high school band, that started in 1973!

How could the Beatles have ripped them blind if they in no way existed yet? You think they are that stupid?

Will you let this one go now.
Anyone who takes it seriously is just making themselves look stupid through their lack of music knowledge.

It’s no longer peaches and cream for Avril, but I think this second charge is not a case of Peaches, but sour grapes.

I’m starting to feel sorry for her, and wish to God I hadn’t released this song under the aka of Avril Latrene and the Extremes:

I Wanna Rip Yer Song Off!
Avril Latrene and the Extremes
aka Dr BLT
http://www.drblt.net/music/So ngOff.mp3

It was just a joke. I honestly meant no harm. I had no idea that my song would take off like it did. If I could only take it back, I would, Avril.

The songs do sound so similiar…maybe she is guilty…hmm…

Sorry I was paraphrasing and forgot to edit.
Her exact quote about not knowing who the Sex Pistols were was this:

“People are like, ‘Well, she doesn’t know the Sex Pistols.’
Why would I know that stuff? Look how young I am. That stuff’s old, right?”

and note that she is still young yet wears band t-shirts of (and claims to like) “old” artists.

Also I meant to say that she intentionally copied Peaches because she is a risque artist and that is the image Avril wants to project (although a bit toned down for her teeny bopper fans)

But she slipped up when she name-dropped her in that magazine interview after copying the song.

I think she needs to get her story straight. She is known for being a hypocrite. Not everyone is fooled.

Right, all you people sticking up for her listen up.

FIRSTLY she does NOT write her songs.
If she DID, only SHE would be getting sued, AND NOT THE OTHER WRITERS!!!

She co-writes which means she changes a word here or there or makes some suggestions.
It was all part of the plan to feed the young ‘uns and trick them into thinking she is better than she is because “unlike other artists, avril writes her own songs” Which was clever, as they seem to have fooled a lot of people.
But I suspect they are all under 16. So they will soon learn and be embarrassed.

SECOND. Everyone keeps quoting the wrong line.
Everywhere is printing for comparison that she says (on the song Girlfriend)
“hey hey, you you I DON’T LIKE your girlfriend” which is correct
BUT that is the first line of the song and everyone is focussing there. Later, in the chorus in fact she says “hey hey you you I WANT TO BE your girlfriend”
Lets compare with the Rubinoos song..
The whole ENTIRE line is the same and since Avril is a girl the word boyfriend obviously wouldn’t be used so it is NOT 3 words that are the same like she posted in her “response” on her webpage.

It is in fact almost 10 (at least 6) look:

hey hey you you i want to be your ___friend.

hey hey you you i wanna be your ___friend.

Can you tell which is which? The only difference is the word “wanna” which is just another way of saying “want to” Essentially it is EXACTLY the same. She would have had to change the boy part to girl for obvious reasons.

So shut up!!! It doesn’t matter if the rest of the song is different or not. That is enough.
Clearly she did not copy the WHOLE song. Nobody said that. People using that as an argument are just desperately using that to try and distract from the real issue.

The thing with Peaches is even funnier because Avril tried to use the excuse that “she had never heard the Rubinoos song before, it was made before she was born so it couldn’t possible have been intentional”

Well, she isn’t going to come out and admit it is she? It’s easy to lie.
But she must be stupid (or think WE are stupid) if she thinks people only know about songs that were written after they were born.

She said a few years ago about the Sex Pistols “why would I know who they were? I wasn’t even born then! ” (EXACT QUOTE) and now she claims they are one of her favourite bands. How is this possible!

Hmm, I guess the fact that she is a hypocrite AND a fake poser would explain a lot, but back to my point..

The Peaches song she listed as one of her all time favourite songs in an interview recently.
I guess she could always try saying she was mis-quoted like what every pop star tries when they get themselves into trouble.

The only way she’ll get herself out of all this is if she comes out and admits that she is a poser.
She does not write her own songs so she should not be held responsible, and she doesn’t actually like Peaches but she was told that Peaches is a risque artist and it would look good to name-drop her alongside the Sex Pistols as one of her favourite artists.

Thank god for print. If anyone is confused or sticking up for her, come back after you’ve did your homework. Why bother wasting your time trying to stick up for her?

People ARE allowed to borrow or even outright COPY other people’s songs. But you need to ASK FIRST and give them the credit for it.

Avril’s career is ruined. (or her singing at least)

NOT ALL PUBLICITY IS GOOD publicity. Calling someone a phony and a plagiarizer is serious stuff.
It’s not a case of do you like her or did she do something stupid.
Stealing like this and making money from it is the lowest of the low and having the proof to back it up (in the Peaches case at least) is not something people are going to forget.

Avril IS THE NEXT Vanilla Ice.

Funnily enough she is even rapping in the song too.

Just whrn I thought I was out, you pull me back in…
Terry, the Beatles played hip hop beats? Right. I guess the era we are now living in is called The Protestant Refomation.

I just read on one of your achieve pages that “Sympathy with the Devil” by the Stones was considered one the most “conservative” songs of all time. Yeah, okay…That’s like calling the Manson Family murders a minor scuffle.

Mr Zebo Rogun,

You have way too much time on your hands, buddy.

Dear MeKe and RaCh:

Thee Words:

HOOKED ON PHONICS

If you’re gonna rip something off, rip off something good. Like when George Harrison lifted “He’s So Fine” to make “My Sweet Lord”. I really have to question the intelligence of a person who rips off a song that sucks in order to make one sucks even more.

People say Avril stole Peaches song, but I don’t I don’t think so.
I am a drummer and the beat patterns sound different to me.

As “Terry” points out, the beat In Avril’s song although it sounds similar goes
1-2-3-4
1-2-3-4-5
The beat on Peaches goes
1-2-3
1-2-3
and then progresses to
1-2-3-4
1-2-3
Not the same . . .

The remaining 97% of the song is different; did you listen to the rest of the song?

Avril plays the drums a “little bit” and she knows the beat it is different, she said that the “Peaches” song “I’m the Kinda” is one of her favorite songs, Avril loves the Peach, she is not stealing she is simply paying tribute to one of her favorite songs. What is wrong with that?

The Rubinoos case is so weak it will never stand up in court, It’s just sad some of you believe she actually steals songs. I’ll bet she wins any case brought up against her.

omg woopz avril didnt steal no songz n all her songz r awesome so ner ner ta u boo hoo if she did anywayz atlest there gud betta than wat U could eva do

p.s MEKE N RACH RULE THE WORLD 4 LYF

omg woopz avril didnt steal no songz n all her songz r awesome so ner ner ta u boo hoo if she did anywayz atlest there gud betta than wat U could eva do

p.s MEKE N RACH RULE THE WORLD 4 LYF

once upon a time there were 3 pplz named monique rachael and avril well we needed a new song so we went to this place and started to steel pplz songs then monique n rachael got out of it n it all got blamed on avril well it was her idea

OMFG seriously get over ur self this is shit!! obviously everyone has made a mistake i doubt she did omg just because 2 ppl used the same prase(”hey hey u u i wana be ur girlfriend/boyfriend”) dosen’t mean anything u might aswell go suein every1 else 4 namein songs the same name as other ppls seriously get over urselfs they sound nothing alike aye dont u think if she copied them it would sound more i dont know COPIED!!!

seriously and the second thing omg.. do u have to blame avril lavigne 4 everything just bekoz she decided 2 do only druming 4 a song like get over urself the song that the peaches did says the same thing over again at the start and i didnt hear her say one word of what they said on those song i rekon its an outrage u decide to pick on some1 just because they do drumming in a song like get over urself!!

HEY Wayne***
So “mother f***ing princess” is now a kid’s lyric??

im 21 and i like all her songs…so does that mean im musically retarded? no. so people need to chill out with the neg comments.

Avril did not steal from the song “I Want to be your Boyfriend” by The Rubinoos. I downloaded the song and found only 5 words are the same, the songs sound nothing alike, and (in my opinion) “I Want to be you Boyfriend” sucks. Obviously, in the number of songs that have been written in English, there is a chance of somebody using the same phrase. The beat is mostly the same in the two songs, but for anyone who knows anything about music and pop, DUH THE BEATS ARE SIMILAR; most pop music is in 4/4 time. Thousands of songs are titled “Naked,” so why aren’t all those artists sueing each other? Soluna (I have no idea who they are) have a song called “Hey, hey, you, you,” so why don’t they sue for Avril saying Hey, hey, you, you, I don’t like you’re girlfriend”?

And about Chantal Kreviazuk’s comments about Avril’s songwriting skills: Chantel claims Avril cannot write. This is completely false. She wrote most of her first album, “Let Go,” on her own, the rest with her best friend Evan Taubenfeld. Most of her singles made it to the #1 spot many times. She did write some songs with Chantel on her second album, “Under My Skin,” but none of them were big hits. Chantal also claims that Avril stole the song “Contagious” on her third album, “The Best Damn Thing.” This is also untrue. She wrote the song with Evan Taubenfeld. Just because the song’s title is the same, it doesn’t mean the song is the same. She chose to discontinue work with Chantal, and has made the more mature move by not responding to the comments Chantal made.

Oooh, wow so Avril wanted to do only drums in her song “I don’t have to try,” which Peach’s song also does. HER WHOLE FUCKING ALBUM IS MAINLY DRUMS! And refer back to earlier posts about the whole 4/4 time thing. The drum part does not sound alike. Of course, it being the same instrument, there are similar sounds, but the rhythm is different. These people who have made these YouTube videos probably have nothing better to do in their spare time than accuse innocent people of plagiarism. They also show little understanding of music, especially pop music.

“Let it be crystal clear that I have not ripped anyone off or done anything wrong. I have never had to deal with anything publicly like this and surely never wanted to. I do not deserve this negative press and attention. I take pride in the songs that I write and appreciate the opportunities to work with some great writers and musicians.”
- avrillavinge.com

well I think there’s just so much pop music composed that eventually and already there are a lot of tracks that sound the same… so I don’t think she ripped off anyone (although Peaches seems just like that kinda target Avril is aiming for with her new tracks, at least the fast ones)

So…one pointless overrated disposable poptart ripped off another pointless overrated disposable poptart?

That’s like reading that AJ Weberman had rifled through MY garbage?

Seriously, what would be the point?

Avril should try stealing from The Beatles or Paul Simon…or Dylan…c’mon, everyone steals from him!

AVRIL! SWEETY! YOU’RE STEALING CRAP JUST TO PASS IT OFF AS MORE CRAP!!!

I understand the Rubinoos were upset, but guys, please! You didn’t have to go and give her two black eyes!

oh it gets better: http://perezhilton.com/?p =1250

As PerezHilton.com pointed out earlier, a good portion of Avril’s song I Don’t Have To Try off her new album sounds almost identical to the song I’m The Kinda by electro-pop-punk princess Peaches - off her brazilliant 2003 album Fatherfucker.

Lavigne won’t be able to say she doesn’t know who Peaches is!

The July issue of InStyle magazine features a section on “What Rocks Their Worlds.” Seven music celebs pick their top 5 favorite, MOST INFLUENTIAL songs.

Well, guess what’s number one on Avril’s list on p 137 (see the scan above)? Yup, Peaches! And she name-checks I’m The Kinda!!!!

Guess Avril was really influenced by Peaches. A LOT!!!!!!

I’d love to stick it in her.

I’d love to bone her.

this is what happened when the world traded the best Canada had to offer Being Alanis Morissette and settled for this sk8er girl.

Impossível!!! A Avril é uma ótima compositora!
(=
Nós, no BRASIL amamos a Avril!
We love Avril.

Since when is the “Rolling Stone” is citing “Perez Hilton” as a credible source?
“Perez Hilton” has already stated that hi is a bonafide Avril hater and that he wants to ruin Avril’s career.
- I am a drummer and the beat patterns sound different to me. Avril is also plays drums and since she said that the “Peaches” song is one of her favorite song, I think she is just paying tribute to her favorite song “I’m the Kinda”

the chick is soooooo PHONYYY

This is an artist. has touched masses with her songs, has some talent. very punk rock. honey, you are not as fantastic as you think. good commodity perhaps.

id still beat the brakes off that ass.

Well, even if she did write her own songs, she would still suck… not only would the songs still suck, they would also be a bit funny (comical) in a way… kind of like when Britanny Spears and Madonna try songwriting…. and thank GOD I’ve already forgotten the lyrics to that horrid “Hey You” track.

Peaches is cool though…. even Trent Reznor likes her!

I saw this story on TRL yesterday! Too bad, really…”Let Go” was a good one. I disliked her latest albums. =[

I was already disturbed by her new album before the accusations came about. I already felt like she was a sellout before. On “Let Go” it seemed like she was putting out her personality (a girly form of punk, skater, rocker, confident, assertive, she had a song called NOBODYS FOOL for gods sake! Now shes everyone’s fool). Now its all 100% sell-out. So, theyre catchy, it ain’t real music, sweetie. As far as I see it, I was unimpressed before accusations and ashamed after the accusations.

I was already disturbed by her new album before the accusations came about. I already felt like she was a sellout before. On “Let Go” it seemed like she was putting out her personality (a girly form of punk, skater, rocker, confident, assertive, she had a song called NOBODYS FOOL for gods sake! Now shes everyone’s fool). Now its all 100% sell-out. So, theyre catchy, it ain’t real music, sweetie. As far as I see it, I was unimpressed before accusations and ashamed after the accusations.

How can she see with all that eyeliner????

I’m a jealouse fat fa gg Ot from cuba,a beanner & I just wish I was a female but I a 300 pound pig.

Two words come to mind - VANILLA ICE

Avril rip off Rubinoo’s? NO. And I was an original Rubinoo’s fan, too.
PEACHES? That sounds identical.
Like TIMBALAND ripping that finnish or Swedish song - why didn’t HE get all this attention?!

I used to be one of the very few Rubinoo’s fans…but I still have to say that Lavigne’s song is totally different, other than repeating “Hey” and “You” twice. Big deal.
The PEACHES thing seems much more similar, though. Identical, even.

Reminds me of TIMBALAND ripping off that Swedish or Finnish song. That was identical, too.
Why didn’t Tim’ get all this attention???

you people need to jsut be quiet.The rubinos just jealous their song wasn’t good, so they’re trying to pull avril down

Not necessarily intentional.

It could be argued that almost everyone does the same thing to some degree subconsciously- even McCartney wondered if “Yesterday” was truly his or something he might have heard somewhere at some point. Apparently Avril has been doing some recycling, as has always been common in folk music. She should be more careful, though, in the current climate- now being accused of being a fraud.

Rev, you obviously don’t know shit!! Fogerty was the main songwriter for CCR..so he would be STEALING FROM HIMSELF!! People like you need to stop talking about stuff you don’t know about.

I checked out the Rubinoos song and Avril totally ripped that one off, too. Stealing from other artists (in any medium) has always been going on–it’s part of the process–but you gotta be clever about it. Which Avril isn’t…she’s pretty blatant, she just steals from fairly random sources.

Kinda like how John Fogerty’s “The Old Man Down the Road” totally rips off “Run Through the Jungle” by Credence Clearwater Revival…now THAT’S stealing from a random source!

If you think that RHCP ripped off Tom Petty youre an idiot…Tom Petty said so himself

If you really think RHCP ripped off tom petty, youre an idiot…even Tom Petty said so when they asked him

Everyone in modern music, and that includes pop, country, metal, rap and hip hop, owes Chuck Berry a royalty check. After that it is just academic ethnomusicology.

Cathy:”Avril say couple of years ago that “I’m the Kinda” by Peaches was one of her Top 10 inspirations in music, so there you go… ”

YESS

Songs: both crap cause they’re almost disame! shame on you Avril next time try ripping off someone who is worth it.

I((/

Avril say couple of years ago that “I’m the Kinda” by Peaches was one of her Top 10 inspirations in music, so there you go…

Avril say couple of years ago that “I’m the Kinda” by Peaches was one of her Top 10 inspirations in music, so there you go…

Avril’s going dooooooooooooown Haha! It’s about time someone shows how bad this brat is… All she does is full her dumb fans to see her as a musician. But how old areAvril’s fans? Oh yeah 15

Avril, you just suck, period.

A lot of her songs sound like other people’s songs. For instance, “Sk8er Boy” sounds a bit like “Hungry Like The Wolf.”

And on a similar note, John Mayer’s “Waiting on the World To Change” sounds like a rip off of both “People Get Ready” by Curtis Mayfield and “Have A Little Faith” by John Hiatt?

Wow they are pretty close, even closer than the rubinoos thing. Check out the side by side comparison of the 2 songs here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v =P0d2z-dWZmE

Where’s the Smashing Pumpkins review?

I fist men for meth

i think every summer there should be some sort of artist ripping off another. Last summer it was RHCP ripping Tom Petty. I can’t wait to see who gets the honor next summer … maybe Young Jeezy ripping off Wilco

Both songs sound like they suck hard, so who really wants to be credited with “writing” them?

It’s about time someone called Avril on her terrible music. Yeah, I know she’s only 22 so she she’s bound to write crappy pop music. However, wasn’t Joni Mitchell 23 when Blue came out? Amy Winehouse can write circles around the whiny pop lamoid, and Amy’s 23!! I hope this contraversy buries her career. Hell, I’m Canadian and I think her lack of integrity and propencity towards saying “like” 60 times in every sentence is embarassing. Grow up Avril. You have been raked over the coals for good reason: you write music for kids (and you’re an adult) and you actually can’t sing well. Thank God for Pro Tools and Autotune, eh Avril? Otherwise, you’d be serving pizza by day and shooting frozen winnies out of your snatch at night at some strip joint.

Nettwerk’s Terry McBride was looking to fool the media - and RS walked right into it. The Rubinoos are clearly joking - just read the comment in context. The Beatles and Raspberries were split up before the Rubinoos started.

Dr. Luke has clearly lifted the chorus from ‘boyfriend’ for the song he “co-wrote” with Avril Lavigne. Maybe soon Avril’s handlers will stop pretending she’s a genuine songwriter.

Terry, I agree with Satan - you are in idiot. “dig deeper and find out who Peaches ripped it from …. then go even deeper” You’re a regular Barnaby Jones! If I would have stolen beats like that for my first album, I would have never gotten the part in the Spongebob Squarepants movie! Now get with the program my naive friend (and memebr of The Hoff Fanclub!)

terry, uranidiot. the melody is ripped off also, if you can’t hear that then you are brain dead

I think Avril is a FINE singer. In fact, I will invite her, the Rubinoos and Peaches to a sing-off on “America’s Got Talent” I’ll put them on right after the chainsaw juggler and the Rappin’ Granny. I will tell you this: They will have a tough time beating the Rappin’ Granny! But I believe even mediocre stars like Avril and the Rubinoos should have a chance at stardom - like YOUR’S TRULY!

Her image is ruined. Too many issues going on with her. She’s a joke now.

even billy corgan doesn’t yell “I WEAR THE PANTS” in a song. that’s pretty terrible.

they’re both rip offs of get off of my cloud by the stones

but i hate her

Marc,

Wasn’t there music sampled in those cases?

Nobody thinks this is sampled, right?

who cares if she did or not where do you think other stars get their inspiration from? DUH other songs!
give her a break i mean she is not out threatening the lives of others or her own look at Paris, Lindsay, Britney, and Nicole so i say BACK OFF!

for Matt … there is no true original beat … the Beatles did hip hop beats, but so did Mantra musicains thousands of years ago…. can you copyright a beat? … I hope not because then every piece of music with drums from the past few hundred years is all infringing … dig deeper and find out who Peaches ripped it from …. then go even deeper ….

I WEAR THE PANTS

seriously! how many songs are there in the world oh don’t know about a billion! probably more! i can name quite a few songs that sound exactly like Avril’s through out the entire thing and she doesn’t go on crying about. She probably understands that there is only so many beats and topics out there for a hit song that people will want to listen to. the lyrics are close, but beat is different. Any real musician would be able to tell. if EVERYONE that has recorded a song before sued just because it sounded the same none of the stars would have the money they do now !!

Avril is just dumb. As long as she admits it, she can steal all the music she wants.

the question is which song is total crap? (I say both)

When she sang that song on SNL, I thought of The Rubinoos. In fact, I couldn’t get The Rubinoos hook out of my head after her performance.

You can find the tune, more recently, on Rhino’s DIY Shake It UP American Power Pop II (1978-80). I think it’s out of print now, but it’s well known in Power Pop circles.

If she didn’t steal the song or part of it, someone or something planted it in her head.

The Rubinoos were all very talanted singers, which is rare in a band. Their Basement Tapes CD released posthumously, which ironically is a Canadian import, is a very interesting CD. It wouldn’t surprise me that someone would sneak or borrow bits and pieces of their music.

when will she be run over by a bus?

old Avril Lavinge = somewhat wholesome
New Avril = everything she didn’t want to be = sell out

First The Red Hot Chili Peppers rip off Tom Petty, now Avril Lavigne is ripping off The Rubinoos and Peaches. Doesn’t anyone write original music anymore?

It would be easier to completely ignore her if she werent so hot. Sometimes I pause a moment before changing the tv channel when I see one of her videos. Its a tough choice between eye candy and ear torture.

Avril doesn’t even write the material anyway, does she? 99.9% of all pop acts don’t. It’s left up to the producers. I’m not defending her by that remark, either. I’m a purist in that regard and I believe that performers who don’t write their own material are garbage. Get back in the trash can, Avril! Or come by for dinner later?

I WEAR THE PANTS!!!!

Jacob Bailis, you mentioned that you cant copy beat patters…obviously youve heard the comparisons between vanilla ice/david bowie-queen, The verve/rollingstones. Its damaging enough to destroy there careers.

How old is Avril anyways? I think she needs to grow up out of her skater girl image. She’s married for god’s sake. Time to put her little pink knee socks away and do some grown up stuff. If she wasn’t trying to act like a 10 year old maybe people would respect her more!

Wow - these are too close for comfort (for Avril)…and she did say this was one of her favorite songs. If it wasn’t on purpose, she probably thought she had a “good” beat because she was subconsciously reproducing this same song.

she’s a hideous monster from hell

she’s a hideous monster from hell

They are very similar. both cases.
It doesnt suprise me coming from such a crappy songwriter as Avril Lavigne.

terry , listen to all the peaches somg and in the middle the beat changes to exactly the same as Avrils come back here and post again. it is so obviously a copy

Hm she said the Peaches song was one of her favorites before too. girl you are sad. this isn’t turning out to be a good time for her.

This is completely ridiculous. Completely different words, different enough beat patterns (Considering you can’t copyright a beat pattern anyway), and neither has a tune to speak of. What’s next? One book tape company suing another for reading at the same pitch?

Wow, very similar…Im not sure if she ripped it off. I would assume she knows better than that..especially since shes had 2 albums before but its very hard these days to write something that hasnt been done already so its could of probably been a coincedence…at least thats what im gonna write it off as.

i’d still make out with her

ok I don’t think that she needs to be sued, but yeah she totally ripped off that song. anyone who is denying it is actually in denial….oh her day will come

no

I dont care if every single song Avril has ever done is stolen from some other band. It’s still fucking good music! AND anyways who cares?
it’s not like those lyrics are any good.. anyone could have written them. Her music isn’t amasing it’s just alright and that is all it’s ever gonna be just ALRIGHT!

I don’t know why anyone would want to admit that “Girlfriend” was ripped off from you….Cos that would mean that you actually wrote that stupid stupid song

No, don’t think so.

The Rubinoo’s song has been used a number of times but with authorization. Lush covered the song in 1996 (pretty awesome cover, I might add) and Disney used the song a few times. Avril may have not heard the Rubinoo’s song but her writer sure as hell had it stuck in his mind. Rock-n-Roll has always been about biting someone else’s style … look at the 50’s! Bands covered each other constantly. Even now with all the copy cat bands often calling their striking similarities an “influence”, however, if you are going to blatantly rip off a chorus at least give credit where credit is due. Shame on you Avril.

avril is the best !! she is the worlds best singer

Avril Lavigne could not suck any more. Boo.

avril is rock and roll avril is my fav singer

listen retard, listen to the melody and the instraments moron.
It’s like hearing the same song

omg, that is horrible, a blatant rip off, what a useless little pop star

avril lanvigne not musically talented?! how daaaaaaare you, perez!!!!

Axl Rose should sue Avril because she looks like his kid brother.

The beat on Avril’s goes
1-2-3-4
1-2-3-4-5
The beat on Peaches goes
1-2-3
1-2-3
and then progresses to
1-2-3-4
1-2-3
Not the same . . .

anyone who doesn’t see how close they are to each other doesn’t know squat about music. i gotta say, avril did rip off the song! the beat is similar, the vocals are pretty close, and even the mixing is pretty similar! Screw Avirl’s music, she has no integrity, just a money maker

they are different beat patterns, Perez needs serious help

There will always be some sililar chords or words from one song to another, you can’t avoid that in popular music. But there have been accusations questioning Avril Lavigne’s songwriting abilities/contributions since she came out. After they start piling up you have to think there must be some credence to at least some of them.

also that bojangles song by pitbull has the same beat as peaches and he didn’t get a lawsuit agaist him

Maybe she’ll get impeached. OK that was bad, I couldn’t resist.

ther are tons of songs that are similar in some way to others…i mean seriously its only like 5 words…and avril’s song is better

They just want the money, they are nothing like it. This is pretty stupid!

Damn, that’s pretty bad. I have yet heard the Rubinoos track

Maybe Avril and Vanilla Ice should get together and make an album where they steal bits and pieces from vastly superior musicians and reappropriate them for their own sick, twisted purposes.

Yep, she’s a hack. Who’d have guessed.

Shit is shit.

*Yawn*…what’d you say?