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New Music Tuesdays: Velvet Revolver, Kelly Clarkson

7/3/07, 3:21 pm EST

Rolling Stone’s Joe Levy and Jenny Eliscu tell you all you need to know about the new discs from the former American Idol star and Scott Weiland and the gang.


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sy | 7/3/2007, 5:34 pm EST

… and yet the good songs are realli good … thank you captain obvious

Quality? | 7/3/2007, 7:02 pm EST

Do they actually review music on such crappy equipment?

Fernando | 7/3/2007, 9:44 pm EST

Akelly e maravilhosa sua voz e linda e muito poderosa…….
My december is perfect…

MusicalJenius | 7/3/2007, 9:47 pm EST

Velvet Revolver I can see, but Kelly Clarkson? With 6 minutes and 2 albums, I’d be inclined to pick more interesting records. Why not let the readers decide with weekly polls of upcoming releases, and set the short @ a standard of 10 minutes.. possibly 3 albums, but a little more listen and discussion on 2 albums that people clearly want to hear about would be perfect. I like the “showing the artist” touch during the listening as opposed to watching you guys just sit there kind of awkwardly.

MusicalJenius | 7/3/2007, 9:48 pm EST

…alright I was a little interested in Kelly Clarkson.

Josh | 7/4/2007, 1:44 am EST

I agree with Jenny. Some of the vocals are kind of buried and they don’t really stand out.

Lumpy | 7/4/2007, 4:31 am EST

I’m actually kind of impressed… Jenny Eliscu has a good ear and a penchant for good music… she said smart things… albeit she said little, but in the vein of “less is more”…brilliant
( too bad some of her statements were cut off )

shaun | 7/4/2007, 4:34 am EST

lol. thats it. if they are gonna make these videos, why not longer ones with more in depth reviewing…?

Krunch | 7/4/2007, 6:47 am EST

I bought libertad the moment it hit stores. Couldn’t have been more dissappointed! It sounds like a snake pit record. All slash, drowning out everyone else. Its a total mess, and a waste of money.

Jada | 7/4/2007, 6:55 am EST

Shaun is rite 6mins is way too short. Shud spend 6mins just on VR

Hunter | 7/4/2007, 1:21 pm EST

Where all the reviews you can read??

Hernandez | 7/4/2007, 1:24 pm EST

My December is totally crap and Libertad has only 2 good songs

Anonymous | 7/4/2007, 2:21 pm EST

I love My December. I watched AI and cheered when she won, but I was never really a Kelly fan. But between Breakaway and this album I have gradually become a fan. This is one of the best albums of the year so far! It helps if you imagine all the angry songs are aimed at the current administration!

jungleland | 7/4/2007, 3:20 pm EST

Would have liked a little more than the good songs are good and the bad songs are not good.

You guys have standards, eh? | 7/4/2007, 5:05 pm EST

Sometimes I don’t understand…
Queens of the Stone Age pull off a mockery of their own music, with no real hits on an album, and you hail it with 4 stars.

Velvet Revolver puts out a cohesive album that has its bullseye hits and a few misses (as stated, Just Sixteen, Mary Mary, Pills Demons etc), but you rail against it?

VR’s album pulls off what Queens of the Stone Age WISH they could do.

josh | 7/4/2007, 6:04 pm EST

in case you were wondering why axl gave those fuckers the boot…

Hunter | 7/4/2007, 8:13 pm EST

VR is pretty damn good!

Defender of the Faith | 7/4/2007, 10:05 pm EST

I am not certain that Joe and jenny actually listened to Libertad. This album is less heavy and more catchy than Contrband, which is not a bad thing. They also fail to mention the obvious glam rock and Beatles influences running through the songs. In fact, I think, but for the GNR type rifs, this album sounds a lot like an STP album. I can easlily see Big Bang Baby on Libertad.

This album should spawn hits and provide a burst of aggressive, Sunset strip type rock in the post grunge and post alternative era. Go get em!

zeke | 7/5/2007, 2:40 am EST

No more kelly clarkson!!!!

torrence | 7/5/2007, 2:43 am EST

my december is the best cd of the year! i absolutely love it. i don’t understand why her managers were making such a fuss over it, considering it’s ten times better then breakaway.

Marc Cutillo | 7/5/2007, 8:46 am EST

Man we all haters on this board huh. As Kanye said, “grow up marry a hater wife and have hater kids”

DFF | 7/5/2007, 9:14 am EST

I bought Libertad the day it came out and I’m gradually starting to love it. I had heard “She Build Quick Machines” before and I like it even more now that I’ve listened to it a few times. The album seems more mellow than Contraband but that isn’t a bad thing. There are still some good rock out tracks on there. I like it a lot.

IMRight | 7/5/2007, 9:17 am EST

Libertad is great. It sounds way different than Contraband, too.

barrel | 7/5/2007, 11:10 am EST

that queens of the stone age album is awesome. just because it doesnt have songs that sound like hits, all the songs are still tight.

Hal | 7/5/2007, 12:07 pm EST

Can these two have any LESS chemistry?

Nick | 7/5/2007, 12:53 pm EST

VR score big on the two ballads, the (suprisingly) best two songs on the album – The last fight and gravedancer. Yea, I hear the beatles all over these tracks.

stranglehold | 7/5/2007, 1:23 pm EST

these two ass clowns have no idea what good hard rock music is. Libertad grows on you with each listen, and while there are a few average songs on the album, it is overall very, very good.

scripted | 7/5/2007, 1:54 pm EST

were they reading from cue cards?
I think some of their comments were more than just buried…they were decomposing.
I wish rolling stone would hire reviewers with something original or even partly thought provoking to say.
I just wasted 6 mins listening to dribble.

VR forever!

Adam | 7/5/2007, 2:49 pm EST

VR has continued to evolve and their latest album is great. I’m not understanding where these experts are coming from as they come down on Scott’s vocals. Weiland does an excellant job on the album!!!!!! If people would stop comparing VR’s work to Appetite For Destruction, they might actually enjoy themselves. This is awesome stuff!!!!!

GNRLIARS | 7/5/2007, 3:34 pm EST

Its funny that they first praise Kelly Clarkson, then bash(sort of) VR
Look at the state of music today, lets have a competition for karoke and make them stars. Im lost, I dont get it, maybe im old school, but I cant bear to hear this, a=oh and lose some weight girl, the last thing I want to see on any form of televised cast is a fat broad with a bigger gut than Santa giving her opinion. Take care of your situation first then maybe you’ll have some credibility.

D | 7/5/2007, 7:02 pm EST

Kelly Clarkson is so corny lookin………… She just looks so fake.

Axl didnt give VR members the boot. They quit cause he was tryin to be Trent Reznor.

VR’s album is good after a bunch of listens. “Messages” is an amazing song that got left off. Everyone needs to find it. Its one of the best songs I’ve heard in years.

Miguel | 7/5/2007, 9:11 pm EST

And the fucking retarded that are talking, have they ever listened to a rock record?

VR’s Libertad is what music needs today, or you want to be happy with your reality shows cappy “artists” ??

C’mon, music today SUCK, but heres where VR attacks!

master shake | 7/6/2007, 10:07 am EST

I think Libertad is great… yeah, it’s no Appetite for Destruction, but what is? And Kelly Clarkson, give me a fucking break!

oneself | 7/6/2007, 12:14 pm EST

put this on itunes please

Ignacio | 7/6/2007, 3:41 pm EST

i think the albun is great, yeah, you can’t compare anything to Appetite for Destruction, nothing that has came out and nothing that will come out, that albun is just something to hang on the wall. This one though, is something really really good.

shaun | 7/6/2007, 4:02 pm EST

VR’s new record is better than the last one. I’m really feelin’ it

martin | 7/6/2007, 9:22 pm EST

vr libertad: 10!!!!!

josh | 7/6/2007, 11:55 pm EST

What utter shit. A fine example of 2+2 (or 3+1) = 0. All these guys should’ve found a way to stick it out with the bands that made their names. STP and GNR were both GREAT pop metal bands. This is more of the same melodramatic garbage from the last outing. Weiland strikes me as the kind of prick who finds himself just boundlessly interesting, despite his current niche as rock’s longest running cliche. And then there’s Slash, whose measure of how great a song or album is, is how quickly it can be recorded. Hey Slash, have a cigarette and relax. The label’s paying for the studio time. Maybe we could spend twenty minutes putting the next track together.

Mullethead | 7/7/2007, 12:25 am EST

Libertad is a weak offering especially when you understand what the individuals in the band are capable of. This is tired cliche rock with pop sensibilities and very little attitude. There aren’t any standout songs, they don’t have much of anything to say. Velvet Revolver is a corporate gimmick, this album will most likely brick and be forgotten within a year or two

Anthony PIttarelli | 7/7/2007, 2:41 am EST

the VR album sounds way better than the last one, too bad the songs are still all kinda the same as the last one too

Cory Perlman | 7/7/2007, 11:11 am EST

VR has put out a fine record, no doubt about it. If you like this kind of music, you will not be dissappointed! Thank god for VR! Without them, we would be left to listen to cookie cutter rock bands like Nickelback. Now if Axl could just get Chinese Democracy out there soon, real rock might be back for good!

Cory | 7/7/2007, 11:15 am EST

This record is the best album I’ve heard since….well Contraband!

Terrible | 7/7/2007, 1:31 pm EST

Generic crap rock. They should feel ashamed to call themselves rockers. Rockers are acts like Clutch, Qui and Fatso Jetson; there’s many others too. VR is tired and trivial.

wolfxxx | 7/7/2007, 2:02 pm EST

Izzy stradlin has a new album on Itunes

Macalicious! | 7/7/2007, 2:06 pm EST

I say, take a different look at VR. (instead of giving kelly clarkson a look, spend those moments on looking @ VR twice) Remember the music of yesterday, it made you feel good, it gave a soundtrack to your life. Remember Sly? That’s what a review should be of VR, it’s not trying to be anything it’s not. They’re not trying to change anything, they’re putting an album out that kicks ass if you’re driving in your car, working out, or cleaning your damn apartment. I never thought i’d say this, but Fall Out Boy made a good point, their job is to get us off of our pessimistic, critical asses and dance/sing/rock whatever. And if I wanted to see Kelly Clarkson, I’d get hammered drunk at a karoake bar…at least I’d have a better chance of getting some.

God | 7/7/2007, 8:02 pm EST

Awesomw album…All the critics fuck off…u aint knowing shit abt music

matt | 7/8/2007, 2:42 am EST

velvet revolver i think personaly is easly the best or one of the best rock bands alive today.

matt | 7/8/2007, 2:50 am EST

and i agree with “God” critics do need to fuck off there is no reason to insult rock like they do its totally pointless, i see no need to wright about how bad a band sucks in that persons opinion in a magazine on the internet or anywhere its a waste time.

Ryan | 7/8/2007, 4:49 am EST

Hmmmm… Queens of the Stone Age>>>>>>> Velvet Revolver

Seth | 7/8/2007, 5:04 am EST

Hmm. Rolling Stone dissed Zeppelin and AC/DC, while promoting shit, popular-at-the-moment bands cuz that’s where the money is. That’s the way they still work. VR kicks much more ass than any fall out boy or shit! at the disco.

Worm | 7/8/2007, 6:15 am EST

Sadly such a corporate america sounding review done over video that just comes off cheesy, sorry but RS loses any respect it has left with this. Over half the segment taken up on a second rate Kelly Clarkson album beacuse she has decided to go ‘rock’. VR rock and are amazing live. Still trying to compare everything to Appitite, when that was a one off defining album that’s impossible to replicate? Is this a rock magazine at all?

Progess | 7/8/2007, 9:15 am EST

Its funny to listen to guys slamming vr and its members…saying they are not a real rock band.
VR are showing the most important aspect of being artists :P ROGRESSION …
something that you guys who are still living in the 80s and 90s are not.

So go and crack open a beer..whack on appetite for destruction…track 2..and listen to Axls lyrics…i see you standing there , you think your so cool, why dont you just…..

They are directed right at you!

vr | 7/8/2007, 12:01 pm EST

As a long time VR fan i agree that Scott’s input wasnt as top notch as expected. Also, the riffs for alot of the rock songs are kind of generic (she mine, for a brother, get out the door) and just lacking that feel you would expect from slash duff and dave. Nevertheless, i think it’s a great step forward. I think the songs are deeper and more interesting. Its definitely an album that needs a couple listens, but arent the best that way anyways? And my favorite songs are the ones he mentioned as ‘weak’, pills demons etc. is a great song! same with just 16- uptempo bluesy rock and scott actually has got a good thing going on it.

Anonymous | 7/8/2007, 1:38 pm EST

Why is it EVERY OTHER review of Libertad suggests this is a very good record, better than their debut ( which was also very good). This is not GNR or STP, this is Velvet Revolver.

jim morrison | 7/8/2007, 1:45 pm EST

forget about everything we know about rock. Rock is dead and we all know it. There are a few bands that still rock VR and the Whitestripes bring back that feeling, you had when you first heard Led zeppelin or black sabbath. There is no hope in EMO and Punk. We need a real rock band to step up like VR or once again Like the White Stripes. We need bands to start fucking there groupies with fish we need are bands to be stoned out of there mind. We need more creativity less corporate rock. Everybody wants to make money. I say fuck the internet and its bullshit with music. Buy cd’s go to concerts get laid and smoke weed.

jerry | 7/8/2007, 9:56 pm EST

yeaaaaaaaaaah, kelly clarkson rocks. my december rulez. woo hoo!

Martin | 7/8/2007, 10:43 pm EST

Defender Of The Faith

Spot on ! Couldn’t agree with you more.

boz | 7/9/2007, 9:02 am EST

i will all let you know what i think about the VR sound as i will be seeing them on 8-17-07, once i get home from the show i will post my thoughts on how they compare to Zeppelin or Black Sabbath, i have seen both bands way back in the late 70’s seeing Zeppelin with John Bonham was such an amazing experience, and then see Black Sabbath inn the NYC’s Pallidium with a young Van Halen as the opening act was also an amazing show. thanks for hereing me out

Boatman | 7/9/2007, 2:37 pm EST

In my opinion Libertad is an impressive and very enjoyable album. Several steps above Contraband.

Mullethead | 7/10/2007, 11:29 pm EST

Libertad has officially and deservedly bricked on the charts and couldn’t even reach 100,000 sales in the first week. This album sounds like a desperate attempt by aging rockers to dumb down their music in order to seem relevant. Slash and Duff abandoned everything that made them good for the sake of seeming hip. All it got them was a brick.

They should break this corporate gimmick of a band up and leave the pop music to Scott Weiland. Axl Rose must be laughing right now. Chinese Democracy will outsell this album in one week no matter how many net babies cry about him keeping the name

matt | 7/10/2007, 11:54 pm EST

why be so critical against rock and roll!!! especially when its vr!. for god sakes they make music for people to listin to as a previlage if you dont like just dont buy the god dam album, dont take advantage of the previlage they have created and work their asses off for almost every day and a talk about how much it sucks and pick out the smallest most pathectic things and point them out because nobody CARES!!!.
velvet revolver for life :P .

martina | 7/14/2007, 7:15 am EST

VR’s “Libertad” really is a great album, filled with great guitar riffs provided by Slash… It has a lot of energy and it kicks ass because of ti, but it also has that emotional feeling when you listen to some tracks(for example, “For A Brother”, bonus track “Messages” and “Gravedancer”)… It’s an awesome album, and I’m glad that it brought back some real rock n’ roll into my life…

sam | 8/8/2007, 2:30 am EST

god, its music!
you listen to it because you like it and it makes you feel good.
if you don’t like it don’t listen.

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