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Internet Radio’s Day of Silence

6/22/07, 3:20 pm EST


More details on the fight against the new, bad deal for webcasters: On June 26, thousands of Internet radio stations will go silent for twenty-four hours to protest a recently announced hike in the royalty rates they pay to play music on their sites. If the new rates – which will be more than double the current rates for webcasters – go into effect as scheduled on July 15th, many stations say they’ll have no choice but to shut down. Leading the fight against the ruling is the SaveNetRadio Coalition, which includes large webcasters like Rhapsody, Yahoo! and Pandora, as well as dozens of smaller ones. “The arbitrary and drastic rate increases … threaten the very livelihood of thousands of webcasters and their millions of listeners,” says Jake Ward, a spokesperson for the organization. While most stations will refrain from playing anything on Tuesday, others will devote the day to anti-shutdown programming. KCRW, L.A.’s National Public Radio affiliate, will stream a 60-minute special “D-Day For Webcasters” every hour at KCRW.com and on the airwaves at 2pm.


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Elitest Pig Dog | 7/3/2007, 11:28 am EST

Elitest Pig Dog - Look the people are actually enjoying themselves learning, enjoying music, acting free and turning against the slave pen we’ve made for them.

Elitest Pig Dog 2 - Well then well just manipulate the laws again to show them there our slaves once again.

Elitest Pig Dog - Good Idea, lets start with the music we own that right?

Elitest Pig Dog 2 - Oh, yeah all of it and we can only let them have the brain washing stuff for free. Nothing like 12 year old girls singing britney spears.

Elitest Pig Dog - Oh I just love that we’ll restructure it to play all day on the stations we take over.

Elitest Pig Dog 2 - This should make it easier then to go after talk radio right? and videos on google like money masters? Cause we cant have the truth told to the slaves, i mean when i want a sandwich I don’t wanna have to wait or make it myself you know what I’m saying.

Elitest Pig Dog - I know just where your coming from, I had to wait 2 min. once it was hell, I think my stomach actually growled. Oh yeah and it’s all just domino’s we get this the rest will fall, there stupid and cant stand up for anything. We’ll just start another american idol up so they will watch that and we’ll move in.
Elitest Pig Dog - so then its agreed music first.

Elitest Pig Dog 2 - Aye, to the law system we created to further enslave!

Elitest Pig Dog - Tally HO! To the racketeering Mobile!

Rockland USA | 6/30/2007, 8:53 am EST

My station (RocklandUSA.com) has been running for 4 years and never once did I make a dime. However, because my playlist and programming appeals to thousands of daily listeners, I will be stuck with a $400,000 bill for a hobby station. Meanwhile, broadcast radio here in Washington, D.C. pays zippy royalties. I work as a professional firefighter and work overtime in order to pay my yearly $6000 cost in royalty ($2000) and bandwidth charges ($4000) to entertain my decent sized loyal following. My stream numbers beat the streaming numbers of all other terrestrial music station who also stream with their radio broadcast here in D.C. No one represents us. Newspapers ignore us little guys who do not have advertising or make a dime. We are the biggest music fans anywhere and the record companies, Clear Channel, and other money hungry groups are going to kill us off. For those who have supported us, thank you. Thank you to Rolling Stone for posting the article to get the word out - word up RS!

RandomPaths | 6/28/2007, 11:13 pm EST

Live365 is my choice for listening–10,000 stations–and I can drill down any genre and find something so unique!

We canNOT lose Internet Radio, not only because of losing music, but losing our only venue left for free speech. Live365 has a site to get phone numbers to call to stop the destruction of Internet Radio: go to Live365(dot)com/choice

Time is running out for all Internet Radio stations. Who knows, maybe they’ll go after MySpace, FaceBook, and others after they shut Internet Radio down.

The real losers in all of this? The artists. We all buy via the internet now, and Live365 has ‘buy’ buttons right on the player window, so artists will lose revenue and promotion. Independent artists as well as the big names will be hurt by this.

We have to stop them. Support the Internet Radio Equality Act and call those guys as soon as possible.

Vince Wylde | 6/27/2007, 1:40 am EST

The time has long come for the RIAA to be declared a group of charlatans and to allow a third-party organization do what the RIAA flat lies about doing. For years I’ve interviewed artists on the radio who have lamented about how this crooked group of con-artists have ripped them off. I’ve seen first hand how they manipulate the music radio you hear every day. They are crooks - and if the average American committed the crimes these clowns do - he or she would be jailed without delay. Come on, legal system. Why do you allow this to go on?

phantasm777 | 6/26/2007, 3:27 pm EST

i play classic rock, oldies, psychedelic, pop, prog, brit invasion, and some more genre’s from the period of 1967 to 1977, not exclusively but as the model, and not the same old FM type songs.

i have many emails telling me how they would see some of the cds, bands i play but not want to shell out 15 to 20 dollars cause they don’t know if it is any good. they hear it on my station and go out and buy it, perhaps never ever considering it but cause they heard some songs on my station on live365.com they went and bought it cause they love the music.

i play this music cause so much of it is rarely to never played… when was the last time you heard anyone play - plato & the philosophers????

i feel i am advertising for these bands who wouldnt even get any royalties or whatever, if they haven’t been ripped off of them by now by their own managers or record co’s.

i as a live365.com broadcaster make about 2 or 3 dollars a month which can only be used to put back into the station as part of the upcoming next payment for running my station. so at that rate i can say i make virtually nothing.

all of this is out of my pocket to get and keep the station and to buy all these, expensive cd’s many out of print and caost an arm and a leg when you find them.

but i wanted to get the best of the unique rare music for the listenrs who are tired of FM classic rock, am, satellite, cable radio etc, who do not play music they want.

i play no commercials only station id’s and cannot play commercials ! all funds going into this station as for most all live365.com stations come out of our own pocket.

if these rate increases, which are not going to be put on AM and FM stations those who make millions on their stations mostly though advertising, which i cannot do, i and countless others will have to shut down.

it is expensive enough now but if the rates come through forget it, it will be ridiculous especially since all the funding for it comes out of my pocket and i am NOT rich.

remember many bands that rarely or never get any airplay are now getting it, if all these stations are forced to close, not only will more current popular bands get less airplay overall but the older, less known and less listened to genre’s will get even less than the little and sometimes ONLY fee’s for playing their music than they are now.

older, retired bands and musicians are going to really hurt cause they can use all the help by their music being played as possible so they can add to perhaps what little income they might have now.

why is the riaa picking only on internet radio when we make no profits and some of us can barely afford our stations as it is, let alone a 500% increase by 2010 from the current rates.

they even want to charge those who had stations running last yr though this new rate was approved in march! i know some here at live365.com who run live radio programs will lose around $500,000 by these retroactive fees! not only would it put them out of radio but into bankruptcy!

we all will lose freedom of choice of music, many older or obscure artists will lose money not having their music as exposed, and all in all it is beyond ridculous!

Michelle | 6/26/2007, 3:18 pm EST

I was just reading the article about the demise of the recording industry along with some articles about the internet radio royalty problem.
I am a musician and am thoroughly disgusted by the way the recording industry has behaved in the last few years.
Instead of forcing too much hip-hop or american idol types on people, why havent’ they given us all something worth buying.
I have discovered more music through internet radio and NPR radio that almost ever before.
It would be a tragedy to lose such a resource
The sad thing is that most of these musicians will never be heard by a large audience and will never get the respect they deserve as true artists because they are eclipsed by (Insert flavor of the month act name here)

David | 6/26/2007, 9:56 am EST

I have bought more albums in the last two months than I have in the last two years, because of internet radio introducing me to new artists.

Cara | 6/25/2007, 1:30 am EST

wow. i completely agree that Pandora has done wonders for its listeners in terms of turning us all onto new music that we are willing to put our money into. it will be a sad day when i have to stop discovering new music and as a result never buying a new album or supporting a new band. :(

David | 6/24/2007, 8:14 pm EST

It’s the small “mom and pop” stations that provide music we don’t hear on Corporate owned FM and AM stations that will end up out of business. That’s sad.

Did you know that this government panel has shifted ALL the royalties to internet stations? Huge conglomerates that are raking in millions each year pay NOTHING.

It’s time we stand up for internet radio. When all those stations are gone, who will pay the royalties?

Internet radio needs a lobby group to wake up the Congress and the greedy people who have made this bad decision.

Let’s not wait until it’s too late.

Nick | 6/24/2007, 2:30 pm EST

As a musician and listener (I love Pandora!), I see both sides of the issue. Remember, it’s not only the “big record companies” that are involved.

Please understand that lumping all music in with “the recording industry” hurts independent artists. The vast majority of artists are not on a major label. It’s not as simple as “us vs. them”. We’re in the midst of a very difficult transition that could last years and wipe out many wonderful artists who simply cannot afford to keep making music.

That being said, I love the business model of Pandora, and am OK with the old fee structure for stations such as Pandora where the listener does not get to listen to specific tunes on-demand. I have found many new artists and purchased their CD’s based on Pandora.

The problem comes in with stations like Rhapsody, which allow users to play any song on-demand. As an artist, I recieve less than 1 penny when one of my songs is played on Rhapsody. For my pay to equal a “sale” on itunes, a listener must play my song about 70 times. Now come on! very few people listen to a song more than 10 or 20 times, even if it’s one of their favorites. Who in their right mind would purchase a song when they can listen to it anytime they want?

With the old fee structure, it would take 250,000 on-demand spins on rhapsody for me to break even on my recording costs ($2,500) for that song - never mind actually making a profit.

The new fees should apply to on-demand stations such as Rhapsody. Stations like Pandora should be able to keep the old fee structure.

Just my two cents…

BUTCH | 6/24/2007, 1:19 pm EST

When record sales keep plummeting they will realize their mistakes

Cassandra | 6/23/2007, 7:43 pm EST

This sort of thing really angers me - it seems as though the music industry have been, are, and continue to be frighteningly shortsighted in their dealings with emerging technologies. I don’t even have a radio anymore - I listen to Pandora, and when I find a song I like, I buy it off iTunes. If the music industry continue to behave foolishly in this manner, we’ll all be left listening to our Dylan, Prokofiev, and Nirvana - not a bad thing in and of itself, but bad in that the music world will tend to stagnate. Sadness… and yet, what can we do? We call our congressmen, email the record companies… and those with bigger pockets than us nevertheless control the outcomes.

JBK (Surf City Sounds Plus) | 6/23/2007, 2:43 pm EST

I have my perfekt freeform webcast at Surf City Sounds Plus on Live365. Please support the proposed royalty fairness law, Internet Radio Equality Act (H.R.2060, S. 1352 in Congress)to preserve radio choices on the web. Details at the Save Net Radio Coalition link in Ms. Roberts’ article at the top. Thanks!!! ~JBK

woooooooo | 6/22/2007, 5:53 pm EST

whoever is responsible for this must have an IQ 5 points lower than butter.

Alan N | 6/22/2007, 5:36 pm EST

Since getting a Squeezebox, and listening to Pandora and Radioio (amongst others) I have PURCHASED more new CD’s in the past year than the prior five years combined. It’s absurd that the recording industry is now “cutting off their nose to spite themselves”, by trying to drive these webcasters out of business. We need to join together to make sure 2007 doesn’t go down in history as the “YEAR the music died.”

Evan's mom | 6/22/2007, 4:45 pm EST

yeah, pandora was a wonderful discovery when i found out about it a year and a half ago or so. having completely given up on modern music and listening almost exclusively to bob dylan, the band, et al; pandora turned me back onto current music and let me discover bands like interpol, the divorce, etc and almost singlehandedly turned me into a new rock sponge. it’s really sad that alot of these online radio stations will go under. 3wk is also a great online radio station. SAVE INTERNET RADIO!

Bryan | 6/22/2007, 4:38 pm EST

Pandora is my major source for discovering new music (which I then buy if I like it–for any you recording industry folk out there who are actually paying attention to your consumers). I’ve gone from a major “alternative” rock radio listener in my teens and early twenties to someone who almost never turns on the radio (except for NPR) because of the crummy quality of the music and the narrow selection (I’m sure I can count the number of times I’ve heard Wilco on the radio on one hand). It’s too bad the record execs don’t realize that THEY should be paying Pandora for introducing so many of us to quality products would not otherwise have discovered.

sad days ahead | 6/22/2007, 3:37 pm EST

First thing I thought of way back when I found out about this royalty hike was that pandora might disappear. Now it seems all but certain. Lets hope they can find a alternate business model to continue operations. Pandora is all I use to find new music these day.

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