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The Worst Career Moves of All Time: Rock Lawsuits We’d Like to See

6/20/07, 4:06 pm EST


You may have heard about Motley Crue’s recent lawsuit against the manager of drummer Tommy Lee. The best part: Vince Neil, Nikki Sixx and Mick Mars allege that Lee’s participation in the reality shows Tommy Lee Goes To College and Rock Star: Supernova “diminished the public’s interest in Lee and their overall perception of his musical talents.” In other words, they’re suing him for making bonehead career moves.

The implications of this are staggering. What other terrible business decisions are worth a lawsuit? We expect to see these cases following soon — feel free to add yours.

Every Hard Rock Fan Alive v. The Van Halen Brothers
Back Story: When Sammy Hagar was fired from Van Halen in 1996, The Van Halen Brothers at first brought David Lee Roth back into the fold – even cutting two new songs with him. But when it came time for a new album and tour, they dumped Diamond Dave in favor of former Extreme singer Gary Cherone. The result was the crappiest Van Halen album ever, and a poorly attended tour. Eleven years later we’re still waiting for Dave to come back.
Charge: Recklessly choosing Mr. “More Than Words” when Roth was willing to come back.
Verdict: Guilty of reunion negligence.
Punishment: The Van Halen brothers are now forbidden from touring without Roth on lead vocals and Michael Anthony on bass.

Chuck D v. VH-1’s “Flavor of Love”
Back Story:
Until Flavor Flav appeared on The Surreal Life a few years back Public Enemy was fondly remembered as one of the most exciting, politically-minded rap groups in history. Now they are now best known as Flavor Flav’s stepping stone to becoming a huge reality TV star. When Chuck D gets an interview request now it’s not to discuss censorship, but to give his opinion about whether or not Sumthin’ should have been kicked out of the house when she shit on the floor.
Charge:
Bringing more shame to Public Enemy than Griff’s anti-semitic rants.
Verdict: Guilty.
Punishment: Lifetime banishment from basic cable and two months of studio confinement with the Bomb Squad.

Stewart Copeland v. Sting and Puff Daddy
Back Story:
Sting had already strayed into jazz and fake world music after leaving The Police, but he never went further off course than his appearance with the artist then known as Puff Daddy at the 1997 Video Music Awards. During a performance of the “I’ll Be Missing You” Sting popped in out of nowhere to sing the chorus of “Every Breathe You Take” and somehow managed the make the Biggie Smalls tribute even schmaltzier.
Charge: Being complicit in Puff Daddy’s mid 1990s assault on 1980s pop.
Verdict: Guilty
Punishment: The Police reunion must become permanent.

Bob Dylan v. The Grateful Dead, and vice versa
Back Story: Bob Dylan cites his 1987 co-headlining tour with The Grateful Dead as a key moment in his life where he rediscovered how to perform, and realized that he needed to be touring all the time. Fans regard is as the lowest point in the career of both Dylan and the Dead.
Charge: Wheezing through “Joey” for an agonizing nine minutes, making everyone in the audience wish they were being gunned down in Little Italy.
Verdict: Guilty.
Punishment: Five listens to Dylan and the Dead

Photo: Getty


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Caution: Off-Topic | 6/20/2007, 4:30 pm EST

Dylan and the Dead isn’t that bad…

fakename311 | 6/20/2007, 4:31 pm EST

Every person that purchased the first audioslave album Vs. Chris Cornell and Tom Morello

Back Story: After Zack De La Rochaleft Rage Against the Machine it was announced that the rest of the band would form a super group with the lead singer of Soundgarden. The first single Cochise was a loud in your face spectacle. After that single the band worked solely in the genre of the power ballad.

Charge: Making people confuse there albums with the “Monster Ballads” Compilations.

Verdict: Guilty

Punishment: They must reform and tour opening for Poison.

fakename311 | 6/20/2007, 4:31 pm EST

Every person that purchased the first audioslave album Vs. Chris Cornell and Tom Morello

Back Story: After Zack De La Rocha left Rage Against the Machine it was announced that the rest of the band would form a super group with the lead singer of Soundgarden. The first single Cochise was a loud in your face spectacle. After that single the band worked solely in the genre of the power ballad.

Charge: Making people confuse there albums with the “Monster Ballads” Compilations.

Verdict: Guilty

Punishment: They must reform and tour opening for Poison.

mdw225 | 6/20/2007, 4:34 pm EST

Sting and Puffy…that was such a nightmare. Equally disturbing was the “Roxanne” remix with Pras from the Fugees. What is sting thinking? still sexy though…

Stuporfly | 6/20/2007, 4:34 pm EST

That’s Gary Cherone? I thought it was Chris Martin from Coldplay!

Aaronh | 6/20/2007, 4:35 pm EST

Case: Metallica v. Fans
Story: Lars Ulrich gets pissed that fans are willing to break the law to listen to Metallica songs on Napster, instead of getting their money to him. 3 Years later they make an album that is the audio equivalent of a root canal without novocaine.

Charge: Being greedy bastards who think they need more money and making crappy record trying to sound like even worse nu-metal bands.

Punishment: Give out free copies of their first five albums to all, and pray to God new album with Rick Rubin doesn’t suck.

BTW: I still love their music even though they’re greedy.

Aaronh | 6/20/2007, 4:35 pm EST

Case: Metallica v. Fans
Story: Lars Ulrich gets pissed that fans are willing to break the law to listen to Metallica songs on Napster, instead of getting their money to him. 3 Years later they make an album that is the audio equivalent of a root canal without novocaine.

Charge: Being greedy bastards who think they need more money and making crappy record trying to sound like even worse nu-metal bands.

Punishment: Give out free copies of their first five albums to all, and pray to God new album with Rick Rubin doesn’t suck.

BTW: I still love their music even though they’re greedy.

killingfloor | 6/20/2007, 5:05 pm EST

Snoop and Jay-Z for sampling the Doors music. ‘Riders on the storm’ and ‘Five to one’. No rock fan worth his salt can digest the progressive work of the Doors to be used in shitty rap songs.

TJ | 6/20/2007, 5:05 pm EST

Super Bowl viewers v. Paul McCartney, Prince, and The Rolling Stones

Back Story: After the infamous “wardrobe malfunction” during the halftime performance during the 2003 Super Bowl Halftime show, event planners chose these artists as artists that would not be likely to create such controversy. Unfortunately, all three artists also put together shows best described as bland and forgettable.

Verdict: Guilty

Punishment: Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen and the Foo Fighters do the next three Super Bowl Halftimes

>>>> | 6/20/2007, 5:11 pm EST

Jimmy Page going on SNL w/ Puff daddy, using the music of Kashmir to his “song”,,speaking of Jimmy Page,, also: Coverdale/Page.

>>>> | 6/20/2007, 5:13 pm EST

R.E.M. going on Sesame Street.

Markus | 6/20/2007, 5:15 pm EST

Prince fans vs. “The Artist”

Back story: When Warner Bros. refused to release one new album per year from Prince (citing a need for more promotion time), and then refused to release him from his contract, he wrote “slave” on his face and changed his name to an unpronouncable symbol (revealed later as an attempted manuever out of his contract).

Charge: Putting fans, critics, journalists and record labels through one of the most ridiculous stunts in music history, and in the process, beginning one of the longest, most disheartening career derailments in the industry (not counting Paul McCartney & Wings).

Verdict: Guilty

Punishment: Warner Bros. should be given permission to remaster and re-release Prince’s entire Warner catalog (except for the “Batman” soundtrack); and Prince should be forced to put his entire purple vault on eBay and stick to doing overpriced commercials for lackluster new singles and playing overpriced shows in Vegas.

jungleland | 6/20/2007, 5:17 pm EST

Tommy Lee’s sin is that he has caused people to become uninterested in Motley Crue? How about that they are musically way past their prime, and not that great to start with. Their stuff does not hold up well at all. Tommy Lee has become a household name, but Motely Crue is a footnote in the Tommy Lee story, THAT’S what has the rest of the band upset.

And how about the BONEHEAD move to replace Vince Neil and go grunge? That worked well??

>>>> | 6/20/2007, 5:17 pm EST

Honestly, when I saw this picture I thought it was Johnny Rotten on stage w/Eddie Van Halen.. that would be a bad career move for Johnny.

Joshw | 6/20/2007, 5:18 pm EST

I think the worst show of Puff Daddy remixing a song and the worst mark on Led Zeppelin’s amazing track record was the remix of Kashmir for the Godzilla soundtrack. Now while it was nice to see Jimmy Page again… Actually it wasnt nice to see Page like that at all. I wish he had never agreed to do it…

I blame Sting for “showing him the way” to make more money off originally awesome songs by turning them into really crappy ones.

Timroc | 6/20/2007, 5:18 pm EST

Hey, the live album “dylan & the dead” stunk, but the shows were fantastic. Simple as that. And take note, Blame it on a Simple Twist of fate that the previous year 1986 was when Dylan & the Dead first began playing together.

Taylor Shull | 6/20/2007, 5:24 pm EST

I think John Rotten going on Judge Judy should be taken to court by the rest of the Sex Pistols for Johnny selling out

fluffhead | 6/20/2007, 5:36 pm EST

what is this sites fascination with bashing dylan and the dead? them doing that cd together really ruined their careers. give me a break. what a bunch of crap.

teddy | 6/20/2007, 5:38 pm EST

Worst career move of all time.

Garth Brooks vs. Chris Gaines

T | 6/20/2007, 6:00 pm EST

i think the Billy Squier video where he rolled around on the bed is still the all-time career killer

Mule | 6/20/2007, 6:12 pm EST

Eric Clapton hooking up with Babyface and shortly after, with Simon Climie to produce every (bland) album since then…maybe not a “career killer” monetarily, but CERTAINLY artistically.

Dave | 6/20/2007, 6:20 pm EST

Britney Spears getting the kissed before Christina by Madonna at the MTV Video Awards. Since that high water mark in music history, Ms. Spears (formerly Federline) has put out a shit record, been married twice, had a couple of kids fathered by a retard, gained (and lost) 150lbs, and been to rehab.

What happened to Christina? Everything that was supposed to happen to Britney!

GeoBQn | 6/20/2007, 6:21 pm EST

Case: Jerry Lee Lewis vs. His Libido
Back Story: With hit singles like “Whole Lotta Shakin’ Goin’ On” and “Great Balls of Fire” and an electrifying stage presence, Jerry Lee was pegged to be the next Elvis. Then he married his 13-year-old cousin, Myra Gale Brown, before his divorce from his second wife was final. When word got out, his career took a nosedive.
Charge: Statutory Rape, Incest, Bigamy
Verdict: Guilty
Punishment: Time served with having 3 wives who died, plus registering as a sex offender.

david | 6/20/2007, 6:27 pm EST

Music fans Vs Mike Love
-For causing Brian Wilson to doubt himself, break down and make everyone wait over 30 years for Smile.

As punishment, Mike Love should have to tour America singing songs written by Brian Wilson, using a band name that everyone knows belongs to BW.

The Duke | 6/20/2007, 6:27 pm EST

Jesus, im pretty sure that IS Chris Martin. Its uncanny

Jack | 6/20/2007, 6:30 pm EST

Good Music Journalism v. RollingStone Online

Billy Braggington | 6/20/2007, 6:34 pm EST

The worst was what Metallica did to their fans…

Mojopin | 6/20/2007, 6:54 pm EST

There has to be some sort of charge levied against Axl Rose and the almost 2 decade long wait for what is shaping up to be a mediocre album at best, not to mention breaking up one of the best hard rock bands in history, being an egomaniac, getting cornrows…the list is so long!

Mojopin | 6/20/2007, 6:56 pm EST

oh, and by the way, I completely agree with the Van Halen charge.

sy | 6/20/2007, 7:18 pm EST

two worst career moves, metallica cutting theire hair back in the 90’s and then billy corgan doing a gig for Bozo the clown on TV. look it up its hilarious…

ryan | 6/20/2007, 7:26 pm EST

Gary Cherone is a criminally overlooked vocal talent. Chosing David Lee Roth in the late 90’s when he was, and still is, a joke would’ve been insane. Gary Cherone was at the top of his game at that point. listen to extreme’s lll sides to every story to start…He, and Extreme, were more than a lovely balad.

lucky1333 | 6/20/2007, 7:33 pm EST

Personally I think that Van Halen was better with Sammy Hagar then they were with David Lee Roth and I really think David Lee Roth lost all credibility with Californa Girls. Yet Van Halen kicks out Sammy Hagar a great musician thats what should be the lawsuit

about Vince Neil | 6/20/2007, 7:40 pm EST

He has not right to judge Tommy Lee for apearing on Rockstar supernova he was on the first season on sureal life crying like a baby. Why sue the manager Tommy could have just said no.

Bigkid4ever | 6/20/2007, 7:42 pm EST

True Van Halen III sounds like garbage, but alot had to do with how poorly the album was mixed! I agree it is a MAJOR departure from the VH formula but Eddie wanted to do the album Sammy or Dave would not have wanted or in Dave’s case been capable of doing. As far as the tour visit youtube and watch footage of Cherone doing the old stuff, he owned the stage and the songs!

Dee Scruntled | 6/20/2007, 7:48 pm EST

Yoko Ono versus Kathleen Brennan, for copyright infringement, specifically for Kathleen doing everything to Tom Waits that Yoko had done to John.

mr.goodtimes | 6/20/2007, 8:11 pm EST

Every true rocker vs. Axl Rose

Back story: grimy LA strip in the 80s needed a good kick in the cock and GNR raised to the occasion with bottles of nightrain in hand and brownstone trickling out of freshly spiked veins. They rise to be the Greatest rock N roll band of their time and then some. Dangerous, edgy, and volatile releasing a milestone album…appetite for destruction. After releasing the decent illusions, Axl gave a taste of what he was into with the track my world. A half assed attempt at industrial noise. The effects caused duff to drink even harder, thus blowing out his pancreas and slash to give the old fuck you, not to mention mastermind izzy who bolted long before, and steven who was doped up in some gutter somewhere. Thus disbanding the last true HUGE RNR band. Only to move on to half ass session musicians creating an album that could and would never live up to the expectation. No longer the rabble rousing rockers they once were, GNR is laid to waste to become one of the most disappointing moments in the history of rock n roll. IF Chinese Democracy ever does come out, axl will release the mistake he made.

Charge: Destroying the ultimate rock n roll gang

verdict: guilty X1000

punishment: invest all time and capital to create a time machine to transport back to the strip circa 85, lose the braids, keep the ego, but dont ever break up GNFNR

Chris | 6/20/2007, 8:54 pm EST

Pink Floyd for no Fare Well Tour!

Also sue the RARHOF for not inducting Rush!

tutdick | 6/20/2007, 8:57 pm EST

trent reznor’s lyrics vs trent reznor’s music.

charge: Lyrics: why do we get the suck end of the deal, why can’t we be as good as the music? i mean come on, we have to settle for teenage diary poetry while the music rocks so hard? i mean jesus….

verdict: guilty

charge: trent must go back to school, improve vocabulary, gain sense of wordplay.

Dave VH Only! | 6/20/2007, 9:03 pm EST

I know it’s popular to slag 90s and 00s Dave, but he’s not THAT bad. The main reason that everybody digs into him, I think, is that the scream is pretty much gone. I admit, that sucks. But his normal singing voice is pretty much the same live, and he still records well (although he sounds weird now, compared to his 80s voice… it sounds like he changed his technique to compensate for age and smoking, or something).

More to the point, he and VH were more than the sum of their parts. When Dave left, he didn’t have Eddie to legitimize his shtick and Eddie’s writing got weak and poppy. They need each other.

Velhinho | 6/20/2007, 9:09 pm EST

Jimmy Page/Robert Plant vs John Paul Jones
The latter would gain the lawsuit.
Jonesy at Bonarro says all.

kcv | 6/20/2007, 9:15 pm EST

hmm….there’s so many….garth brooks doing that chris gaines thing was utterly stupid.

Velhinho | 6/20/2007, 9:16 pm EST

Jimmy Page/Robert Plant vs John Paul Jones
Back Story: two old devils who wanted all credit for Zeppelin. They forgot everything Jones did at Zeppelin and they thought fans don´t hear the bootlegs to see how Jonesy was major force.

Verdic: Guilty a lot.

Punishment: Page start to getting guitar lessons from Ted Nugent and Plant locked in a room listening all Jonesy solo albuns and some Zeppelin bootlegs.

dstyle | 6/20/2007, 9:43 pm EST

Metallica suing Napster. Aside from the douche-baggery of Lars Ulrich I think the bigger crime is them failing to capitalize on a major money making initiative that would also have helped to create stability for the record industry. Everybody in the business is now feeling the proverbial dick up their ass over that one. High Five!

Toby | 6/20/2007, 10:11 pm EST

aerosmith @ the superbowl with Britney and those others…uggg
back story: exposure for exposures sake
Charge: management decision
Punishment: an hour long listening session of Don’t want to miss a thing, followed by a refesher course..learning the entire “night in the ruts” album,…..a lesson in rock.

Brock_vond | 6/20/2007, 10:16 pm EST

i think VH3 was passable, but it sure wasn’t as entertaining as VH1 or 2.

the real career move killer has to be growing old. lets face it, rock and roll thrives on the “Live Fast, Die Young” axiom, and those who blither away, still trying to emote their way through a song that they wrote 40 years ago … its pathetic.

At least those one-hit wonders from the 80’s new when to get out when they did, and pocketed enough cash to invest in some serious business ventures, and never work again.

BTW, I hear Tommy Tutone is an SAP programmer now, Fall Out Boy opened for him once …

Maybe Rock and Roll has Irony after all ..

dupacrash | 6/20/2007, 10:19 pm EST

remember pearl jam’s fight with ticketmaster? as i recall that kept them off the road or out of major venues for several years.

U2 from “zoo tv” until “all that you can’t leave behind”.

and my favorite, african singer youssou n’dour cancelling his 2003 US tour as a protest of the iraq war. i guess nobody told him the only people being effected by the cancellations would be the people who were actually going to see him.

J-Roo | 6/20/2007, 10:32 pm EST

Pat Benatar’s painfully stiff dance routine in the “Love is a Battlefield” video.

War | 6/20/2007, 11:07 pm EST

Kurt Cobain

gar | 6/20/2007, 11:42 pm EST

How about guns n roses vs. velvet revolver? slash should be killed. of all the singers to get, he gets the least original, most over rated douche bag ever! buckcheery recorded a killer disc with them, then got fired, wicked. at least axl is trying to branch out, slash should try it sometime. oh yeah….the mars volta rule…..trust me.

gar | 6/20/2007, 11:42 pm EST

How about guns n roses vs. velvet revolver? slash should be killed. of all the singers to get, he gets the least original, most over rated douche bag ever! buckcheery recorded a killer disc with them, then got fired, wicked. at least axl is trying to branch out, slash should try it sometime. oh yeah….the mars volta rule…..trust me.

Kristopher | 6/20/2007, 11:44 pm EST

When Metallica fought Napster, as a band they completely forgot what made them become Metallica in the first place. As pimply-faced teenagers, it was the underground tape-trading that spread the word about bands like King Crimson, Slayer, and most notably Metallica. It was kids taping tapes, passing them to friends, that filled the venues during the Metal Up Your Ass / Kill ‘Em All days. That piracy was the way bands were made; and they proved that with time they can abandon their roots and punish those that are doing the same today, albeit on a grander scale.

Laurens van Indonesia | 6/21/2007, 2:05 am EST

Axl should’ve never parted with Slash.

conduitjones | 6/21/2007, 4:29 am EST

i can’t believe people haven’t noticed that metallica, motley crue and van halen are the guilty parties at the very core of this argument. isn’t that right, rock gods?
…and somewhere off in the distance mick jagger, lou reed, and john lennon pass judgment.
also, i want my money back from breathe, dino, al b. sure, beverly hills cop II soundtrack, etc.

vasco | 6/21/2007, 5:49 am EST

metallica fans don’t dl their albuns and then get pissed off that they do something about it. I really wouldn’t call that a fan. Oh I love your music just as long as I don’t have to pay for it. Fact is Lars was right.

JA | 6/21/2007, 6:45 am EST

Dylan & the Dead his worst album ?

Of course it’s not Dylan enough for the Dylan fans and not Dead enough for die hard Deadheads, but it isn’t all that bad.

Have you ever managed to listen to Self Portrait all the way through in 1 sitting ? I rest my case.

cure58 | 6/21/2007, 6:53 am EST

Dave Navarro marrying Carmen Electra and doing a reality show with her!!!

cure58 | 6/21/2007, 7:00 am EST

Jimmy Page transcends any bonehead mistakes,he’s GOD!!!

cure58 | 6/21/2007, 7:02 am EST

Rod Stewart doing disco in spandex!

jerk | 6/21/2007, 7:19 am EST

Paul McCartney vs. John Lennon, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr…. wait a minute, that really happened!

Neds Fresh Sister | 6/21/2007, 8:19 am EST

Kiss ditching Mark St. John

bob | 6/21/2007, 8:47 am EST

David Geffen suing Neil Young for putting out records that “Don’t sound like Neil Young”!

jdch_99 | 6/21/2007, 9:02 am EST

John Corabi vs. Motley Crue.

Back story: MC ditches marginally talented singer in favour of great rock singer, record their most relevant record, garnering critical praise (granted, they may not have recognized critical praise). They then ditched the great rock singer in favour of the marginally talented singer.

Charges: creating full frontal confusion, throwing pearls before swine.

Verdict: Guilty

Punishment: TL Goes To College, The Surreal Life, touring with 4′9″ headcase Lukas Rossi.

Sidebar, your Honour: the solo Vince Neil album was better than anything Crue ever did with Neil.

totallyout9@aol.com | 6/21/2007, 9:11 am EST

elton john basically coming out of the closet at ROLLING STONES interview in 1976…at the top of the world..a ROCK star gay ooh my..fast foward 1977… imagine he is not the biggest star in the world… gay slurrs, record burnings, victim of love, single man tour in small venues, AMAZING

Clamhorn | 6/21/2007, 9:15 am EST

Whoever mentioned Billy Squier should be shot… not because they are wrong, but because I now have visions of Squier prancing around to “Rock Me Tonite” stuck in my head. This is what I picture an eternity in hell to be like.

Eddie / Dave | 6/21/2007, 9:26 am EST

ok , but with the Dave is the BEST !!!

Rockstar70 | 6/21/2007, 9:31 am EST

I agree with GAR…..Velvet revolver should have kept the Buckcherry guys and put out a rockin’ cd instead of putting up with the stupid singer they ended up with.
Motley Crue was on a roll with Vince Neil then he was fired and thr new guy brought in,it was all down hill from there. The first 10 years they didn’t even try and got it all right, the next ten years they tried everything and screwed it all up.

Jeff | 6/21/2007, 10:26 am EST

Ed and Al VH, twenty-two years and counting since Roth left the band, still waiting for you guys to tour.

Bayliss | 6/21/2007, 10:44 am EST

Edward and Alex the booze and Cig
clowns that give nothing back to the music fans besides a thank you note post rehab. get off your ass and rock before its too late. maybe is is too late?

Scott Blugrind | 6/21/2007, 11:22 am EST

I agree about the Van Halen story.

My wife is not a rocker but she loves Tommy Lee because she saw him on those shows. She came to see Crue with me because of that.
Maybe the fact that Vince Neil sings like sh@t now is the reason their musical creditablity is in question. I saw them many times and the last show at the Hollywood Bowl was so bad.
Vince didn’t sing 1/2 the words and when he did he was strugling. They need to spend less on pyro, smoke and gimmicks and write a decent song. They haven’t writen a good new song since Dr. Feelgood. (which is classic)
Tommy Lee’s fame is what keeps Crue so interesting. DAAAAAA.

Vince Neil’s makeover show. Who is going to sue about that gross show?

Anonymous | 6/21/2007, 11:29 am EST

Metallica deciding to minimize their style, Cliff Burton getting in that bus, Ever meeting Bob Rock, Hazing Jason Newsted, hiring Robert Trujillo, the whole napster thing…pretty much everything Metallica during and after the Black album.

Limp Bizkit ever deciding it was good idea to try and make music…that’s the capital offense here.

H | 6/21/2007, 11:40 am EST

Pearl Jam suing Ticketmaster is a big one.

DD fan | 6/21/2007, 11:45 am EST

I have never understood the hatred of the Dylan and Dead album. I saw the tour and bought the record when it came out. It’s pretty good, not perfect but very okay. Listen to Slow Train Coming, it’s a great version.

the muffin man | 6/21/2007, 11:49 am EST

Carl Barat Vs. Pete Doherty

CRIME: after relasing the best two albums England has seen in decades and not wearing parkas petey D runs out of money to fund his drug habit and decides to break into his best friends flat and nick his TV, Hi-Fi ect….

Verdict: Guilty.

Punishment: despite having written it pete should have to listen to pentonvile over and over. and have to open for bands like the view who are blantanly trying to ride on the libertines long worn out coatails.

Rockstar70 | 6/21/2007, 12:00 pm EST

I love the Crue but Vince puts nothing in the performance…..stop running around and try and sing the songs.

Metallica has done the same thing. The fans hate your music. Put some effort into writing good music.

Van halen just likes to dangle reunions in the fans faces……..don’t tour with Dave and we won’t support your career you A$$ bag!!

Bob Saget's Revenge | 6/21/2007, 12:02 pm EST

Van Halen, heading towards greatest American rock band of all time, decides to pull in JV singer Hagar, only to jettison him for probably the biggest wuss in rock and roll history Cherone.

Eddie, lay off the sauce brother. Bring back Dave and Mike. Have fun, make your FANS HAPPY, oh, and make a ton of dough too.

BoldRuler | 6/21/2007, 12:16 pm EST

JA is right. Dylan has produced way worse albums than a live album with the Dead. And if this sparked his return to making very solid music, so be it. While not a great album, Dylan and the Dead is a reach and a poor choice for this list. How about Dave Gilmour and Roger Waters depriving the world of what could be the biggest and best re-union tour of all time.

jimmypearl | 6/21/2007, 12:27 pm EST

van halen will be back 4 sure
with david lee roth

jimmypearl | 6/21/2007, 12:27 pm EST

van halen will be back 4 sure
with david lee roth

jimmypearl | 6/21/2007, 12:27 pm EST

van halen will be back 4 sure
with david lee roth

Amphetadex | 6/21/2007, 12:28 pm EST

I know I wish Metallica would never have met Bob Rock EVAR because “One” is such a terrible. God that song just makes me want to shoot myself.

*rolls eyes*

Crowe fan | 6/21/2007, 12:45 pm EST

Charge: The Black Crowes splitting up, then getting back together 7 years later for a great tour run with out any new material and then firing eddie harsch before the 2nd fall tour leg.

Verdict: Can you sting me(Guilty)

Punishment: Do an interview to let fans know what the hell the brothers rich and marc plan to do and be sent to the studio until they can come up with 12 new songs and do cover album including Ry cooder, the Band, the Who and Stones tunes

Jeff | 6/21/2007, 12:49 pm EST

VH 111 was so bad I threw the CD away. Ed and Al VH made a mistake with Gary the ballerina. Just listen to Ballot or the Bullet or How Many Say I, warning, you might kill yourself.

Anonymous | 6/21/2007, 12:59 pm EST

What the hell is “fake world music…”

zepgirl | 6/21/2007, 1:19 pm EST

I love Sting (even the lute album. I know. I’m not cool). And I love Jimmy Page (does that redeem me?) but Puff Daddy is a joke and both those rock gods should never, EVER have agreed to do anything with him–even have dinner. They both gotta go down for that–tarnishing two of the best rock songs ever: Every Breath and Kashmir. What were you thinking, dudes? Did you need $$ that badly???

Verdict: Guilty!

Punishment: the eternal sting of knowing they whored themselves out to a no-talent ass-clown! He got richer, you two just looked lame!

(I still love you both! Even the lute!!)

AJ | 6/21/2007, 1:30 pm EST

The World v.s. Britney Spears

The Charge: Being Britney Spears

ali25 | 6/21/2007, 1:34 pm EST

METALLICA for sure! They friggin sued their fans for listening to their music..than they made that documentary that totally verified how self obsessed they all are!

ali25 | 6/21/2007, 1:36 pm EST

METALLICA! They sued their fans for listening to their music! Than they made that documentary that pretty much verified how much self obsessed they all are!

J | 6/21/2007, 1:43 pm EST

Vince Neil getting fat.

Punishment: Must change his name to Elvis Neil.

Steve'o | 6/21/2007, 2:23 pm EST

Nickleback forming as a band has got to be high up there.

jdch_99 | 6/21/2007, 2:51 pm EST

Journey approaching Black Sabbath status with respect to the revolving door of lead singers.

Back story: splitting from Santana, Neal Schon and Gregg Rolie form Journey, a jazz-rock fusion band. Rolie originally splits his duties as keyboardist and lead singer (with Schon occasionally taking lead vocal duties). Finding this to be too difficult, Robert Fleishman was hired to be the full-time lead singer. Fleishman was fired and Steve Perry was hired. Then Rolie left the band. Then Perry left the band. Then Perry rejoined the band. Then was fired from the band. Steve Augeri was hired to replace Steve Perry. Then Jeff Scot Soto was hired “temporarily” to fill in for the ill Steve Augeri. Then Soto’s appointment was made permanent. Less than a year later, Soto was fired from the band.

Charges: Neal Schon, Jonathan Cain, Ross Valory, et al., incompis mentis, failure to protect the legacy of a once popular band, fraud by means to presenting Journey as the band it once was.

Verdict: Guilty.

Punishment: meet your new lead singer — Ronnie James Dio

Tittyboy | 6/21/2007, 2:59 pm EST

Case: The RIAA vs Music Fans

Back Story: The recording industry, sensing an insidious plot to shave their insane, monopolistic profit margins by file-sharing computer-gangster college kids and other flouters of supreme corporate law, did hereby commit the following acts against the common good: 1)Launched a blizzard of lawsuits against small-time music fans that further corroded their already reprehensible image as greedy bloodsuckers; 2) Citing their losses from sharing, steadily increased the prices of CDs to punish downloaders– and ended up punishing everyone, including themselves– after promising for years that the prices would drop; 3)Employed such cruel and unusual police-state tactics as copy protection to prevent sharing, and in the process ended up not only alienating all listeners but further bolstered said sharing; 4) Citing their losses from sharing, placed Draconian cuts on new artist development budgets while pumping the money saved into excessive promotion of already excessively promoted established “artists”, such as Britney Spears, thereby affirming previous charges that they have turned into timid artistic Republicans who don’t like anything new unless they already know they like it beforehand, and making everyone even sicker of the established acts.

(These charges represent only the beginning of the indictment here presented; the entire list of charges is actually too long and involved to list here.)

Charges: Rampant greed; Collective idiocy; Cowardice under fire; Intellectual corruption; Criminal short-sightedness; Career suicide; Highway robbery; Three counts of murder in the first degree: 1) Artistic growth, 2) Musical evolution, 3)Rock ‘n’ Roll.

Verdict: Do you even need to ask?

Punishment: They are hereby sentenced to a public execution, wherein they are to complete the job of cutting their own throats.

TankCat | 6/21/2007, 4:15 pm EST

Aerosmith performing with Britney Spears & N’ Sync at the Superbowl.

Mark McGrath joining Extra (not that Sugar Ray was ever any good)

Metallica appearing as whiny bitches on ‘Some Kind of Monster’

Ozzy vs. ‘The Osbournes’

TankCat | 6/21/2007, 4:26 pm EST

I agree that Gary Cherone gets a bad rap from the whole Van Halen III thing. If anything, it was his bad decision to join that washed up group.

TankCat | 6/21/2007, 4:30 pm EST

Two words: Coverdale/Page.

anonymous | 6/21/2007, 4:41 pm EST

“Amphetadex | 6/21/2007, 12:28 pm EST

I know I wish Metallica would never have met Bob Rock EVAR because “One” is such a terrible. God that song just makes me want to shoot myself.

*rolls eyes*”

you can blame bob rock for a lot, but you can’t blame him for that. the producer on “…and justice for all” was flemming rassmussen. bob didn’t come in until the next album.

also…ragging on metallica for the quality of their later work = valid point. ragging on metallica for suing napster = valid point. ragging on metallica for cutting their hair = juvenile as fucking hell. jesus christ. (i would direct this to the particular person who wrote about their hair, but i’m not even going to bother looking up your name – it ain’t worth my time. fucking wank.)

JBK (Surf City Sounds Plus) | 6/21/2007, 8:27 pm EST

Phil Spector vs. His Girl Groups e.g. Ronettes, Crystals, et al, and other women he’s known. The list of reported bad behavior is likely getting longer all the time….
Punishment? Karma seems to be walking up the steps to knock on his door. We’ll see…. ~JBK

JBK (Surf City Sounds Plus) | 6/21/2007, 8:27 pm EST

Phil Spector vs. His Girl Groups e.g. Ronettes, Crystals, et al, and other women he’s known. The list of reported bad behavior is likely getting longer all the time….
Punishment? Karma seems to be walking up the steps to knock on his door. We’ll see…. ~JBK

dersh | 6/21/2007, 9:00 pm EST

Metallica!!!!!

for ruining the pure sound with bob rock and becoming the most corporate group in heavy metal. including that whole napster thing. uch disgusting

dersh | 6/21/2007, 9:00 pm EST

Metallica!!!!!

for ruining the pure sound with bob rock and becoming the most corporate group in heavy metal. including that whole napster thing. uch disgusting

PJ_gongshow | 6/22/2007, 1:45 pm EST

Eddie Vedder, for being so fearful of self-parody that he forgot how to sing.

unsub | 6/22/2007, 11:01 pm EST

As I understand it, it takes a good band at least a year or two to hammer out enough new material to create a new album, their livelyhood.

Everyone whining about Metallica suing illegal downloaders and advocates for the practice should give up a full two years worth of income to absolute strangers and content themselves with the knowledge that the strangers they gave it to love them.

Grow up people. Stealing is wrong, music, intellectual property, or otherwise.

trickyricky | 6/23/2007, 2:02 am EST

Clive Davis vs. Kelly Clarkson

OK, not really real rock, but what’s happening right now is a classic case of stupid career moves. Clarkson should have listened to the people who actually know the business, put out another popular Top 40 CD or 2 to cement her stardom & then thought about making her own dreary, boring “artistic” album. There, I said it. Clarkson’s an idiot who should be flying on Cloud 9 these days, but instead has a career that’s tanking before our very eyes.

stonemex | 6/24/2007, 1:39 am EST

What about Mick Taylor leaving the Stones in 1975?
I bet he is sorry

Scott Blugrind | 6/24/2007, 11:33 am EST

I agree about the Van Halen story.

My wife is not a rocker but she loves Tommy Lee because she saw him on those shows. She came to see Crue with me because of that.
Maybe the fact that Vince Neil sings like sh@t now is the reason their musical creditablity is in question. I saw them many times and the last show at the Hollywood Bowl was so bad.
Vince didn’t sing 1/2 the words and when he did he was strugling. They need to spend less on pyro, smoke and gimmicks and write a decent song. They haven’t writen a good new song since Dr. Feelgood. (which is classic)
Tommy Lee’s fame is what keeps Crue so interesting. DAAAAAA.

Vince Neil’s makeover show. Who is going to sue about that gross show?

kpaul | 6/24/2007, 9:16 pm EST

VH DLR …I saw DLR solo at the HOB in Chicago a few years ago….great band , incredible show.

It is very clear that ED & Al owe it all to Dave. I hope they dont re-unite , it would be a real step down for Dave.

Greenthump | 6/24/2007, 9:20 pm EST

Me Vs. some Kid

The other day some moron said that bimbo from dragonforce is THE MASTER OF THE WAMMY PEDAL…

Wrong…

Jack Friggin White is….

He’s truely mastered the use of the wammy pedal, it’s used in more or less every song by the White Stripes song. Kids theses days…

Charge: Saying retarded crap about a truly revolutionary musical genius.

Verdict: Guilty

Punishment: Must listen to the song Black Math 3,333 times consecutively.

labrat | 6/25/2007, 11:07 am EST

How about suing anyone that argues over thirty year old rock bands instead of getting a real life.

BigDaddyD | 7/18/2007, 1:03 pm EST

I think its fucking sad how these rich ass rock stars…feel the need to sue anything and everything that comes their way. I love Motley crue…but you would think there was some friendship that would last longer than some hurt feelings…..

ryan | 9/6/2007, 8:39 pm EST

me vs. greenthump

I’m sorry greenthump, maybe it’s just me but I could’ve sworn that Tom Morello was the one who revolutionized the whammy pedal and is the master of the whammy pedal.

Charge: being an even bigger idiot than the person who said dragonforce is the master of effects

Verdict: Guilty

Punishment: three swift kicks in the nuts, plus having to listen through all 11 albums by dragonforce, 5 times over

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