The Most Overrated Albums of All Time

6/18/07, 12:00 pm EST

Nirvana NevermindLast Friday the Guardian UK printed a decent set of interviews with the likes of Mark Ronson, Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips and other rockers on which “classic” albums they think are the most overrated. (The most provocative: Coyne compares Nirvana’s Nevermind to Nickelback [dude!] and British garage rock gadabout Billy Childish tees off on Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.) So let’s hear it from you: Which albums in the rock critic canon do you think are overrated?


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Shamshoon | 5/5/2008, 2:22 am EST

Cindy Lauper is overrated
Dr Dre is underrated
Katrina and the Waves are totally overrated
Matthew Wilder is the greatest artist of all time
UB40 is the greatest band of all time
Rockey is overrated
Rambo is totally underrated
Michael Jackson is God
Madonna is a pop icon
The Everly Brothers are underrated
Tutti Frutti is the greatest song of all time
Kurt Cobain is dead
James Hetfield is alive

Mav | 2/18/2008, 1:45 pm EST

Overrated - The Flaming Lips (If I used drugs, maybe they’d be far out, but I don’t, so I see them as the poseurs they are), The Arcade Fire (biggest hype job since Arctic Monkeys), Beck (nothing worse than a white guy who thinks he’s funky), Gnarls Barkley (who really cares, and who will care in two years?) and Radiohead.

Now I like a lot of what Radiohead has done, but they are not Gods That Walk Among Us as most hipsters claim. Most of the last four albums have been little more than bleeps and bloops.

frog | 1/19/2008, 10:51 pm EST

Dudes, of course these albums are overrated, because they changed the fricken world. Sgt Peppers isn’t that good compared to other beatles stuff, except of course Lucy and Day in the life, but it was the first album ever, and nevermind absolutely killed the 90’s. Its judged not by how good it is, but by what it did, and still does if you let it. How can Nevermind not rock your fricken’ socks off, even if it isn’t their best? (and if you don’t appreciate teen spirit, you obviously don’t remember the first.. no, second time you heard it. Damn. That goes for everything. Gotta remember not to ignore the originals cause of the inspired stuff. Of course, I’ve got no grasp of Elvis etc or any classical music. Too immature I guess. That said, I don’t get AC/DC. Just can’t feel the rock to the same extent, though I know it is there.

Eye'z | 12/26/2007, 12:45 am EST

OK Computer is soooo much better than Nevermind.

Rock gal | 12/19/2007, 6:48 am EST

Lets face it

Elvis
Micheal Jackson
Rolling Stones
Genesis
and everything that gets spluttered out these days as cheap replications of the classics…the wannabees-they sound like my favourites in a way that makes me sick

As for comments about metallica and evanesence- they both rock big time-evenesance has a soul-they were never overated, but much as I love my metallica, they sometimes are.

The greatest overated dudes- Led Zepplin

whatda! | 12/18/2007, 7:41 am EST

The funny thing is all you so-called experts saying the doors albums are shit don’t even know their names it’s called most overrated albums ya wankers! Doors=great band. First 2 Albums=greatness. Personal favorite ‘Strange Days’ to quote a Door’s song ‘people are strange’ and so are all you duds! Overrated Albums try fricken ‘American Idiot’ or fallout boy or these shit new bands they suck balls.

mercedez | 11/28/2007, 10:37 am EST

Cravens, you are an idiot if you think GNR has a narrow fan base…isn’t that a huge generalization? I love GNR, and the few albums they made during they’re short career are absolutely amazing…appetite for destruction sounds as fresh today as it did before- I personally don’t listen to what mtv says is cool

Anonymous | 11/17/2007, 12:50 pm EST

Bach didn’t write symphonies

TheWalrus | 11/15/2007, 4:24 pm EST

Bach’s Symphony in G-Minor — most definitely.

Todd | 11/8/2007, 6:58 am EST

Definitely Nirvana’s Nevermind album. Couple of good tunes that’s all. Also he’s ranked 12th on the 100 greatest guitarists. His guitar playing sounds like a heap of crap.

Top-of | 10/12/2007, 12:10 am EST

I think Bob Dylan’s Highway 61 is a little overrated compared to his other albums like “Bringing It All Back Home” & “Blonde on Blonde”. Don’t get it is a wonderful album one of the best ever just not my favorte out of Bob’s albums.

Udo | 10/11/2007, 6:07 am EST

In my opinion the most overrated album ever is OK Computer by Radiohead. I don’t understand the hype. I tried to listen to it 10 years ago, and now. But my opinion is the same: it is unlistenable noise. It hurts my ears! Sure, some people like that kind of music, let them. But why in the world did it get such a hype?!

judas | 9/27/2007, 11:17 pm EST

pixies deserves more recognition than nirvana. i also think smells like teen spirit is overrated. the video of it just make it more popular

sano | 8/31/2007, 6:31 pm EST

Anyone slogging the BEATLES are too young to have been there. And it’s not because I’m too old — I can listen to Amputecture and be reminded of Ummagumma. But the BEATLES were an ERA, and when BOWIE sings “I believe in Beatles,” the rest of us get it. Play I AM THE WALRUS please.

I believe in BACH as well; anyone about to call him overrated?

Well, for overrated, how about Hail to the Thief!!

For UNDERRATED, how about PATTI SMITH!!

Kingjames4892 | 8/22/2007, 5:52 pm EST

The Beatles are a little overrated, but Radiohead doesnt have shit on zeppelin. Page is a fucking mad man when it comes to songwriting. I mean really, how do you write something like stairway to heaven, or since ive been loving you? Radiohead in no way compares to any 70’s, 80’s, or 90’s band, including Nirvana and Metallica. Nirvana is also one of my favorite bands but i will admit, smells like teen spirit is pretty overrated, and so are the who. But Radiohead still in no aspect in music stacks up to ANY of those bands.

Youarealltonedeaf | 8/7/2007, 4:31 pm EST

Know whats overrated?

The word overrated.

Know who uses it? People who dont know any better and/or those who walk around with cotton balls in their ears

Youarealltonedeaf | 8/7/2007, 4:31 pm EST

Know whats overrated?

The word overrated.

Know who uses it? People who dont know any better and/or those who walk around with cotton balls in their ears

Cravens | 8/7/2007, 7:01 am EST

Sigur Rôs - () .. Just because it’s “authentically Scandi-ethnic” doesn’t mean it’s not run of the mill.

Prince - “Dirty Mind”

NIN - “Downward Spiral”

Pink Floyd - “The Wall”

Pearl Jam - “Ten”

Guns ‘N’ Roses .. in general. Their music will die with the narrow generation that listens to them.

The White Stripes .. in general, and they’re especially overrated in the Rolling Stone Magazine who seems to have some sort of arrangement with the band?

Tommy | 8/5/2007, 11:14 pm EST

The Doors are painful to listen to. Rob must pine away with his Doors LP for the good ‘ol days wishing that there were more harpsicord solos in rock. What a loser. Find a new torch to carry, Rob.

Scott | 7/28/2007, 1:15 am EST

i dunno if i said what i wanted to say….try to find an album like kid a or amnesiac by Radiohead…TRY!!! the beatles are overrated and radiohead is the best band of all time hands down!

Scott | 7/28/2007, 1:09 am EST

not a thing by Radiohead is overrated…not a thing….sex pistols are more pop than Brit Spears…Loveless is one of the best damn albums ever made…Nirvana deserve the credit they get…oasis can suck on shit…and Yellow house by Grizzly bear is tits…indie rock is where its at

Youarealltonedeaf | 7/6/2007, 4:43 pm EST

Same can be said for anyone who writes off Hendrix as overrated. They’ve only heard “Smash Hits” on their local radio station, and as a result, he gets the tag given to so many of his contemporaries from people who are too narrow-minded to listen to something other than singles.

Rob | 7/1/2007, 12:17 am EST

After scanning the comments, apparently there are a lot of crackheads.

The most ironic post was by someone claiming the Beatles were not overrated in the slightest yet the doors were completely overrated

LOL talk about irony.

The people who claim the Doors are overrated apparently don’t realize that as time goes on the Doors’ fanbase grows at a greater exponential rate than any other band from that era.

The Doors were extremely underrated during their time. The acclaim they now receive is on par for what they deserve.

Anyone who disagrees needs to first go listen to their songs that weren’t singles such as Spanish Caravan, Peace Frog, Waiting for the Sun, Land Ho, etc. then attempt to say they are overrated

Rob | 7/1/2007, 12:09 am EST

Whoever said the Doors are overrated is an absolute frickin moron.

I’m surprised the crackhead who said that didn’t pawn his computer for some rocks yet.

Joe B | 6/30/2007, 3:24 pm EST

I agree that some of these albums are overrated. I think that people generally misunderstand what is meant by a “great album.” They talk about how great the album is, when they are really talking about the musical shifts that they portend.
Sgt Peppers is not the “best” beatles album, but is very experimental and predicted great shifts in music. The same is true off Nevermind and Ten. The preceding is the better of the two albums, but Pearl Jam went on to create much greater music in the long run.
The great tragedy of Kurt Cobain is that he killed himself before he ever got a chance to expand on what was a great idea and a unique sound in rock and roll.

CallMEeclectic | 6/27/2007, 6:55 pm EST

Anything by:
Fleetwood Mac
Steely Dan
Genesis (post Gabriel)
All Smashing Pumpkins after Siamese Dream

Reality | 6/27/2007, 3:27 pm EST

Anybody who thinks Kurt Cobain was mediocre is an absolute moron. His lyrics were poetry set to song. If you read them with any wit of intelligence, you would see how well he understood the human psyche. Most bands are just narcissistic punks without any original ideas, but Kurt was an original, unlike most of you punks.

Art | 6/27/2007, 3:14 pm EST

Shit, most of the people on that list are from terrible bands that could never measure up to the stuff their trashing. The Flaming Lips? The Hold Steady? Who gives a shit what they have to say. Billy Childish kicks a lot of ass though.

SCOTTIE C. | 6/27/2007, 11:49 am EST

MOST OVERRATED ?

“BAT OUT OF HELL” MEATLOAF….THIS ALBUM WAS CRAMMED DOWN MY THROAT SINCE IT CAME OUT…..

“TEN” PEARL JAM…..NEVER BOUGHT A COPY, BUT KNOW IT (UNVOLUNTAIRLY) FROM BEGINNING TO END…SHUT UP EDDIE !!!!

Dillinger | 6/26/2007, 6:02 pm EST

Whoever posted as “punk&hippie should be friends” hit the nail on the head. Since this is art that we’re talking about what should be deemed as “good” lies mostly in the ear of the beholder. That being said, I would argue that there is a definite lack of value in music which seems to be born purely for profit (i.e. Britney, P-Diddy, etc.).

Wayne Coyne’s criticism of of Nirvana is more telling of his philosophical leanings than his art critic honesty. I’ve heard him make similar comments about artists like Beck as well and I think I have Wayne figured out. His libertarian/optimist/everythin g is beautiful mindset lurches whenever an artist’s lyrical content lies elsewhere. So if your artistic aesthetic is dark in nature or perhaps truthful about uncomfortable subjects you’re pretty much written off. Of course Wayne Coyne has made money as an artist for how long now? We should all have the luxury of this rock star perspective.

Another thing that lends to this kind of criticism is people who have a phobia for the popular. In this way groups like Nirvana have been a victim of their fans’ demographics. They can’t help it if plenty of stupid people like their music as well. “In Utero” really was a rock masterpiece but I personally know people who love hard rock & punk music who wouldn’t listen to Nirvana anymore because “Nevermind” was popular. Now that’s just stupid. Imagine quitting Radiohead after the “Creep” single was popular or even “OK Computer”. Bad move, huh?

Lastly, what really blows are all these stupid lists. This is art we’re talking about. Art is here in the world to be used by humans for enjoyment. Why would you want to ruin our enjoyment of music and bands like “The Flaming Lips” by calling our attention to the character flaws of Wayne Coyne?

Boomer52 | 6/25/2007, 2:45 pm EST

There are two different kinds of “overrated”:

(1st Kind) “Pet Sounds” Overrated: Is this a good album? Yes, I’d even say it’s excellent. Is it the second best of all time? No.
(ex. Sgt. Peppers, London Calling, etc)

(2nd Kind) “American Idiot” Overrated: Is this album good? NO!!! So why do people buy it? The world may never know.
(ex. Slippery When Wet, anything by KISS, etc)

ambchang | 6/25/2007, 2:01 pm EST

lol at all the people grouping Nirvana with Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Screaming trees, etc … just because they are all punk bands. Nirvana was punk based, Pearl Jam hard rock, Soundgarden hard rock, and Alice in Chains metal. The common element between all these bands is that they are all heavy, and grunge is just a general term people used to describe the music enjoyed by youths in the early 90’s.
Radiohead’s OK Computer changed the way music was listened to and produced, yes it had elements of Pink Floyd in it, but it was amalgamated with the popular music in Britain at that time to create something that could stand on it’s own.
No music is overrated, it’s just that some music I understand while others don’t, and some music was understood by others but not me. I personally hate crap like Spears and Justin Timberlake, but apparently it was enjoyed by legions of teenage boys and girls, which is simply a generation I do not understand, and won’t attempt to.

Bill | 6/25/2007, 5:27 am EST

As far as The Rolling Stones being mentioned several times, post “Exile” I would agree. A whole bunch of lousy live albums, numerous studio albums with no more than an interesting track or two … However, from 1966 to 1972- six short years, no band or pop/rock artist EVER has produced a wealth of studio output in a comparable time frame, or even comes close: Aftermath, Between The Buttons, Flowers, Satanic Majesties, Let It Bleed, Beggars Banquet, Sticky Fingers, Exile, as well as classic singles such as Honkytonk Woman and Jumpin’ Jack Flash biding their time between albums.

An unprecedented, relatively short span of creativity that they’ve managed to milk for 35+ years and counting. For better or worse, no small feat.

Bill | 6/25/2007, 4:56 am EST

Over-rated albums:
The Wall-Pink Floyd
Axis Bold As Love-Jimi Hendrix
Some Girls-The Rolling Stones
Led Zeppelin-Houses of the Holy
Springsteen-Born In The USA
Eric Clapton-Unplugged (or whatever the title)

Domain | 6/23/2007, 10:06 pm EST

The most provocative: Coyne compares Nirvana’s Nevermind to Nickelback
This is really retard. That’s like saying Michael Jordan is overrated because Harold “Baby Jordan” Miner sucked.

punk&hippie should be friends | 6/23/2007, 2:35 pm EST

Nirvana rocks. You know who else rocks? The Flaming Lips.

In Utero is a full-fledged, mind-blowing masterpiece and Nevermind ain’t far behind.

Also, The Soft Bulletin is a full-fledged, mind-blowing masterpiece and Yoshimi Battles ain’t far behind.

And when we, the young and smart, fight among ourselves about which flavor of authentic rock&roll we prefer, the corporate villains who bring us Nickelback will continue dominate youth culture.

Dan from Jersey | 6/23/2007, 12:04 am EST

Sonic Youth - ‘Daydream Nation’
Velvet Underground - ‘White Light/White Heat’
Aerosmith - ‘Toys in the Attic’
Alice Cooper - ‘Love it to death’
Metallica - Black album

And as far as Queens of the Stone Age goes, they lost their cojenes when they booted Nick Oliveri.

Diego | 6/22/2007, 5:05 pm EST

Youarealltonedeaf: I don´t want to start another useless debate. I just want to make myself clear on some of the thoughts I expressed in my comment.
As for the fact that musicians become bigger after their deaths, I didn´t want to imply (I don´t think I did, anyway) that´s their fault. Of course it isn´t: they´re death. Society overrates artists. I think that an artist´s work is seen in a whole different way after the artist´s death. It´s this “Imagine what could have been if Kurt didn´t die” speculation. What could have been? Well, music could be better now, or worse, or the same. But just because the guy died in the peak of his carreer, it doesn´t mean his next album was going to change music forever. And when you hear people worship Cobain, you can tell they picture the first scenario.
Regarding the talent of the people I mentioned, it´s pointless to argue. I may have used the wrong words -my bad-, but I didn´t want to mean they where lame. I just don´t think they were THAT good. They were different. The fact that they died made them, in my opinion, better than what they were (that speculation I was talking about).
A few thoughts on Reznor´s talent: I do think he´s a better musician than Cobain. To say that “he makes his money pushing the buttons on a computer keyboard” is way wrong, specially if you like NIN. If you appreciate and understand Reznor´s music, you should know that a computer is no substitute for talent. Just get Fruity Loops or whatever and try to come up with the next “Closer” by pushing buttons. It doesn´t work that way.
And by “retro-crap” I mean those bands trying to rip off The Who and contemporaries. It´s okay to be influenced by other artists, by the whole point is to push music forward, not to play exactly like they did 30 years ago. That´s why I don´t put QOTSA in the retro bag. They sound “old”, but they don´t steal anything from anyone.

Cheesecrop | 6/21/2007, 9:02 pm EST

For the Dude:
There were others who “whined” before Nirvana showed up. (Nearly every sensitive 70’s singer-songwriter, for example, and

Blaming Nirvana for the spate of clones is foolish. Any influential act inspires bad imitators as well - Dylan and the people I mentioned, Zep or Aerosmith (take your pick) and GNR, even the Stones and the crappy 70’s blues rock acts.

Youarealltonedeaf | 6/21/2007, 7:30 pm EST

Nirvana sang about breaking up with girlfriends and about how much they hated themselves?!

By all means, provide some examples

One final word on this: The following quote comes from someone who has been repeatedly tagged as overrated in this discussion, but I believe this to be a very profound and accurate bit of insight

“I’ve always hated comparisons. They are a shortcut to thinking”

The Dude | 6/21/2007, 2:20 pm EST

Wow. Looks like I’m not the only one who thinks Nirvana was the begining of whiny miserable bands singing about breaking up with their girlfriends and how much they hate themselves. I feel a lot beeter about humanity right now.

Oh, and for the person that said Guns and Roses were rags to riches?
You do know that Saul Hudson (AKA “Slash”) went to Beverly Hills high school with Lenny (My parents are famous actors) Kravitz, Right? And yes, GNR were a hair band. I have the Circus Magaine photos from 1989 to prove it. They were a pretty talented hair band, but a hair band nonetheless.

praz | 6/21/2007, 11:13 am EST

Ever since I heard Tool, most of the other contemporary bands seem over-rated to me.

matt | 6/21/2007, 2:44 am EST

Brad Pitt said:

“In my opinion most famous bands are overrated to a degree.”

Nailed it.

Santiago | 6/21/2007, 12:06 am EST

And yeah, Sgt. Pepper, despite being great, is not even close from being the best Beatles album… Yeah, it’s important to pop and psychedelia and yadayadayada but Revolver, The White Album, Abbey Road… much better!
Anyway, we owe that cover the inspiration for Frank Zappa’s “We’re Only In It For The Money”… thanks!

Santiago | 6/21/2007, 12:02 am EST

Queens Of The Stone Age. I don’t get what the big fuzz is about; I mean, not a bad band, they have 4 or 5 great songs per album, but the dynamics on their albums are quite repetitive and not that good indeed. And they are the revival of rock, as I’ve read?
I haven’t tried “Era Vulgaris”, though, gonna see if there’s some change.
“White Blood Cells” by The White Stripes. I prefer Elephant or Get Behind Me Satan to that… That album is absolutely overrated, I used to like it but then it got a bit too “muddy” for my liking (except for some five songs)

Youarealltonedeaf | 6/20/2007, 10:00 pm EST

I don’t think a single person worth his salt would dare to compare Cobain to Page in terms of talent. They are from two different universes as far as guitar playing goes, and to think anyone would ever genuinely say otherwise and expect others to believe it just shows that you are making things up as you go.

As for artists dying and becoming more famous, is that their fault? Blame the record buying public. It is well known that our society is a sentimental one at times, and when an entertainer goes off planet and people related to them or their music on some level, it tends to bring out sentiments.

The “revolutionary” people you mentioned…what do they have in common? All of them are infinitely more talented than Trent Reznor, who makes his money pushing buttons on a computer keyboard. And this is coming from somebody who likes NIN, but him passing would not make as much of an impact as Kurt Cobain. Trent’s music attracts a limited audience, and lets face it…his last few efforts have been less than stellar.

QOTSA? Dude please…they are part of the same “retro” garbage that you spewed your venom over as being overrated.

Cheesecrop | 6/20/2007, 7:26 pm EST

Nirvana was far from overrated. They were a great act, although I must admit Nevermind’s legacy is somewhat overdone. Then again many acts out there have legacies that are overdone, including practically all the big ones dredged up in the top 20’s, top 50’s, etc. lists.

Diego | 6/20/2007, 4:29 pm EST

(sorry for my English)
The Strokes, The Hives, The Vines, The White Stripes… ALL that retro-crap, garage-crap, or whatever it´s called nowadays. I can´t recall ANY of the songs that made those “bands” “famous”. And we where told they were going to save rock…
Regarding Nirvana, who seem to be the hot topic here, they sucked. Badly. Cobain smashing his guitar was aparently worthy of more respect than Page tuning it and actually playing it. And that awful voice… Clearly, the guy became a hero after his death. Think of all those people in rock history that are considered “revolutionary” now: Hendrix, Joplin, Lennon, Cobain. What do they all have in common? Yeah. If Trent Reznor would have committed suicide during the Spiral years, he would be even bigger than Cobain. Instead, he kept on writing good music and actually making a difference.

More over-rated stuff:
*Punk in general
*Norah Jones
*U2’s “How to dismantle afadffds” (sounds like Bono wrote the melody to “Vertigo” while taking a dump)
*Coldplay (decent first album, then they became a caricature of themselves).
*The Rolling Stones (everything after the 70’s)
*Oasis
*RHCP after “Californication” (great album)
*Madonna

Way under-rated:
Queens of the Stone Age. Maybe Josh Homme should put a bullet in his brain. That makes you a better musician.

Youarealltonedeaf | 6/20/2007, 4:19 pm EST

To the person who stated that Kurt was a sloppy guitar player and a mediocre songwriter, I think Kurt himself would most assuredly agree. He went on record many, many times as saying that he never thought himself a good guitar player. As for being a mediocre songwriter, you clearly missed the point. Most bands with that kind of sound rely on loud, crunching guitars with melody being a complete afterthought. The guy could throw a nice hook into his music when he wanted to, and those hooks have sold quite a few million records, and he still had all the volume and energy that were necessary to get your attention.

As for “Emo” and kids liking it because they related to it, that was the very thing about Nirvana that got me into the music. I was 19 or 20 years old when Nevermind came out, and it was a gift from the gods for me. I related to it completely. Whats the difference between then and now? There is none…I just hate Emo and the bands that play it.

By the way: Punk? It’s been dead for many, many years. Anyone putting a punk tag on any current band or piece of music is sorely mistaken. Punk was an attitude, a sound that can’t be described, and what is called “punk” today is a far, far cry from what it was really about.

B. Breeg | 6/20/2007, 12:43 pm EST

Word, Vladiato. I as well respect your opinion. Not everyone can have a spirited debate on music without digressing into cheap shots.

john | 6/20/2007, 11:08 am EST

people keep on arguing Nirvanas importance by saying how they “changed” music…you are right…they made rock music sooo mediocre that a bunch of bands followed suit therefore allowing rap music to take over the charts for the next 15 years…way to go kurt…

Riprock | 6/20/2007, 10:43 am EST

supremely overrated:

Beck - Odelay

The Doors

RHCP - everything after Mothers Milk

RockGod | 6/20/2007, 9:53 am EST

Any piece of garbage music to come out since the year 2000. Everything is overproduced and these days a street juggler or mime can get a record deal. But I will have to admit, Greenday’s American Idiot is overated. A cheapshot poser punk emo/softcore sellout record that is an insult to true punker’s that have to watch all these youngsters/emo kids grow up being coaxed into thinking this is punk music. Its “SELLOUT MUSIC”.

Cowboy | 6/20/2007, 9:07 am EST

People who think anyone reads past the the third line of their 100 line comments are over-rating themselves.

acephale | 6/20/2007, 6:41 am EST

aw, its cute how all of these people think this actually matters.

Brad Pitt | 6/20/2007, 5:22 am EST

My God, reading through the comments posted here was really upsetting. People were knocking bands like Radiohead, Queens of the stone age, Pink Floid, the Beatles. Being overrated is basicically one band getting a little luckier than another. There were plenty of bands doing what Nirvana did before and around the time of Seattle scene, but Nirvana’s music struck a chord with the mass population. Did they deserve it? Yeah, why not. Kurt copied the Unplugged in New York sound from Mark Lanegans first Album “the Winding Sheet” on which he made an appearance. And why not, its a good sound, and Lanegan doesn’t seem to mind. Every band out there was influenced by somebody! Everybodies hating on “Emo” at the moment like its a disease. MCR and Fallout boy are popular at the mo because a lot of kids can identify with them. I mean, its not like their inadequate musicians, they can play their instruments! Fallout boy used Saves the Days sound as a platform to begin with. Fallout boy become famous rock stars, Saves the day do not. In my opinion most famous bands are overrated to a degree, but I wonder if much loved artists that are considered underrated would be considered overratted if they had made it big time.

As for whom I think is overrated. Almost every famous band/artist out their today I guess. But hell, that do I know, Im an actor not a musician!

Kurt's Dad | 6/20/2007, 1:04 am EST

In Utero is a much better album than Nevermind. In my opinion, Kurt was a sloppy guitar player and just an average songwriter. I’ve always thought that when a band is in the throws of addiction that they make much better music. Case in point, Aerosmith were at their creative zenith when the drugs were flowing freely. Night in the Ruts kicks ass harder than anything that came after.

Youarealltonedeaf | 6/19/2007, 11:04 pm EST

Gremlin,

I agree 100% with your assessment of “OK Computer”. I had been, at one point, just a casual fan of Radiohead. “Pablo Honey” and “The Bends” came around at just the right time for me and I really enjoyed them both. “OK Computer” grabbed my attention and I’ve been a rabid supporter of them ever since. Fantastic album worthy of any and all the acclaim it gets.

Vladiato | 6/19/2007, 9:58 pm EST

Point read and taken, B. Though I’m going to have to agree to disagree with Nirvana not being as influencial. However, I wholeheartidly agree with you about Pantera. Definetly a lot of inspiration in the heavy metal/hardcore genres.

Avenged Sevenfold (before City of Crap. I mean Evil) even said much of their inspiration came from Pantera.

I’m adamant in my position as far as Nirvana goes, but I much thank you for a healthy response to my post, and not some juvenile hissy fit from some pre-teen who thinks Fall out Boy is God’s gift to earth. For that sir, I thank you.

Gremlin | 6/19/2007, 9:52 pm EST

I’m disgusted with all the people who are hating on “Ok Computer,” that is a beautiful album that changed the course of music (more so in Europe than in the US). Because of it bands like Coldplay, Muse, Keane, and Travis are around today… though we could all live without them. I’m just saying that we have to look at it from the Brittish point of view, cause Americans obviously prefer the harder rock of “The Bends” even though it’s not as good of an album as “Ok Computer”.

w0nderwall | 6/19/2007, 9:16 pm EST

Overrated
-The last 20 years of the Rolling Stones
-Arctic Monkeys’ Favorite Worst Nightmare
-Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, My Chemical Romance

Underrated
-Oasis’ Don’t Believe the Truth. This was their best album since 1995’s Morning Glory (which is by the way the greatest rock album of the 90s along with their debut, Definitely Maybe. Sorry Nirvana).

F you All | 6/19/2007, 9:15 pm EST

Thank you to all my loyal followers who for once and for all show jim borrison’s real perception…. stupid, boring, and so cliche for his time! Praise be to you all!

P.s. missionary style is sooo overrated

AJ MacReady | 6/19/2007, 8:41 pm EST

Anybody who says Back in Black is an overrated record is a moron. Plain and simple; a fucking moron.

B. Breeg | 6/19/2007, 8:02 pm EST

oh yeah and one more thing, Appetite for destruction is not overrated, it’s one of the best rock albums of all time. When all the hair bands were making crappy power ballads and stupid shit for chicks, G n’ R went full throttle and release one of the best and most aggressive, but melodic albums ever made, putting a bullet in the head of hair metal subseqently killing instantly…..nobody seemed to notice.

B. Breeg | 6/19/2007, 7:51 pm EST

Vladiato, to comment on your question of: “Would metal be the way it is now if some of the grunge bands (namely Nirvana) never made it?” The answer is actually not much different. Grunge never really pulled much from metal. Metal was changed by bands like Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pantera, Guns n’ Roses (more rock than metal, but definately strongly influenced). Grunge bands like Nirvana, AIC, and Pearl Jam don’t have any of the qualities of metal. Such has galloping riffs, triplets, blistering solos/dual guiter harmonies, lyrical subject manner, and especially the over the top image and attitude that metal has. The only “grunge” band that is somewhat influenced by metal was Soundgarden. If want to see how metal was influenced in the 90’s, go buy a pantera album and to another degree even Rage Against the Machine who, although totally amazing, spawned the horrible genre of Rap/metal.

Gerard | 6/19/2007, 7:42 pm EST

Oh yeah…and all Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Gerard | 6/19/2007, 7:40 pm EST

Pink Floyd - The Wall
Beatles - White Album
All Eric Clapton after Derek & the Dominoes

Vladiato | 6/19/2007, 7:35 pm EST

Monsueir, though I’m all for the serial arson on Coyne’s hometown, Back in Black an overrated CD? Come on now, you can pop that CD in at any party and everyone will enjoy it. Though their tunes get a little dry after the radio molested them, it’s still a real good one.

On another note, as far as overrated albums go, Elephant anyone?

GC | 6/19/2007, 7:28 pm EST

nirvana was so real. they were about the music, not hype or money. i mean that’s why kurt killed himself. too much attention-he couldn’t handle it. he just wanted other people to hear his music.

Trout is Dead | 6/19/2007, 7:26 pm EST

How many awful and mediocre bands has nirvana influenced? Just about every one that is on the radio. Their music is constantly being shoved down your throat whether you are listening to it or not. The bands they influence range from the worst (Staind, seether) to the terrible (Hinder,Nickelback,Evanescence etc.) . How can a band be considered the greatest of all time when they are one of the main causes of terrible radio today. And don’t even try to tell me the flaming lips suck because they have done more with the talent that they have than any band in music history. I saw one of the most amazing live shows I have ever seen at bonnaroo which upstaged every other band there including The Police. Flaming Lips are a blessing while nirvana has cursed us all.

Rosie O'Donnell | 6/19/2007, 7:26 pm EST

I belong on this list of the over-ated. I am fat.

Monsieur | 6/19/2007, 7:07 pm EST

Wayne Coyne : the guy who never released a good album, the guy who wrote She dont use jelly and played it on Beverly Hills 92000.

I say we burn his hometown. Nevermind not that good? Uh well its a perfect album just like In Utero is. And no theyre no overrated since most ppl dont list it or even talk about it that much.

Overrated albums :
ac/dc back in black
Sergent Pepper (Magical Mystery Tour and the White Album are better)

Youarealltonedeaf | 6/19/2007, 6:56 pm EST

Bravo on the Doors assessment!

People, for whatever reason, sometimes tend to read too deeply into lyrics and end up looking for some kind of hidden meaning, and when they don’t find it, turn their backs on it. From all accounts that I’ve read and/or heard, Jim WANTED people to listen to the words and take whatever they wanted from them. He did tend to use worn poetic devices at times, but as a word man, he was brilliant. The Doors will be around and will remain relevant(and yes, folks…they ARE still relevant) for another couple of decades. Listen, or don’t listen, but don’t turn a deaf ear to things that you can’t understand.

There is something else that I neglected to mention earlier in my entry. The Flaming Lips are in a class by themselves. Absolutely brilliant musicians/songwriters, and I daresay that if it weren’t for them, my mind would not be anywhere near as open as it is now to new bands who are trying to do different things. It kind of surprised me that Wayne would call Nevermind “overrated”. It is certainly a great album with a lot of power behind it. I will concede that it does have a certain glossy sheen to it in terms of production, and that is something that Kurt himself expressed his disatisfaction over more than once. In Utero was a much more raw sounding record. Even if you hate the band and swear that they had no talent, you can’t deny the energy they put out.

A piece of advice for those who would rather follow the herd and listen to whats popular with the crowd: Open your ears as well as your mind. If you don’t like something, move along, but give it a chance first. You might be surprised. There are a lot of great bands out there who will never get their due, but are making some truly beautiful music.

Vladiato | 6/19/2007, 6:43 pm EST

Look at our time era. Yes, if Nevermind was released now it could have been deemed as overrated.

But it wasn’t. Nirvana released Nevermind when Motley Crue was kickstarting hearts and GnR was singing about a city I would very mmuch like to visit. Through the hair metal and guitar riffs people were starting to tire of, Nirvana set the bar as to what Metal is now, and will be looked at as a band to compare one’s self to, much like The Beatles were in their era.

So let me as you this. Would metal be the way it is now if some of the grunge bands (namely Nirvana) never made it? Answer is no.

As mentioned prior to my comment, Nirvana broke down walls only a very select bands have done. That in itself doesn’t make them overrated. If they came out now, yes it would be a tired sound. But listening to them when it was nothing but hairspray and makeup was a breath of fresh air.

No, Nirvana is not overrateed. With them, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, etc., they revolutionized metal for the new millenium. Love them or hate them, you can’t deny the fact that they brought rock to a new level. A level beyond hairspray and makeup.

WOW | 6/19/2007, 6:34 pm EST

“There’s a killer on the road
His brain is skirming like a toad.”
Are you serious?

I am, I love those lyrics, the music and Jim’s voice. It is a great song but I also love Pink Floyd and RHCP lyrics as well, so it could be that I am just a demented person.

Trout is Dead | 6/19/2007, 6:20 pm EST

This article gave me one more reason to think the flaming lips are one of my favorite bands and think even more that nirvana is overrated. oh yea… rolling stones and u2 are the most overrated bands of all time period.

Tittyboy | 6/19/2007, 6:18 pm EST

What many of you testes out there don’t realize about The Doors is that they were NOT overrated. In fact, they were slagged with increasing intensity for their perceived pretensions (especially the singer’s) by just about every contemporary music publication and critic with every move they made… and that was before Jimbo made the ultimate career move. The only people who rated them highly were the fans, and even they were deserting the Crystal Ship before it sank. Dying was probably the only logical move left for him; he had created his character, indulged every Dionysian aspect of it possible and finally couldn’t handle the load. Yes, the lyrics were often silly and sometimes downright embarrassing; anyone who envisions themselves as a poet has no place in rock– the pretensions inherent in the form belong on the pages of little literary pubs, where even the most overblown and senseless symbolism appears proper or even mandatory. On the merciless surface of the vinyl, the deeper you try to sound, the more you will get heckled for your efforts by the intelligensia (the critics) and the anti-intelligensia (the types of fans who have been populating this blog, who can conjure up no deeper cut than saying something “sux.”) I’ve been a Doors fan for a long time, but I can see through their act as well as anyone. But what redeemed Morrison and the band–and continues their hold on the listening public’s imagination– was their sound, which still holds a unique quality that has been endlessly assimilated, if not imitated, by those who have come since. Ray Manzarek and Robbie Krieger were genuinely talented musicians with a quirkiness to their basic sound that still cuts through the static 40 years after the fact; the cheesy organ and jazzy, urbanized slide guitar made the music unmistakably The Doors, and the chewy melodies that they and the aforementioned Mr. Morrison concocted, often by themselves assimilating and imitating their predecessors (Bach in the organ intro to “Light My Fire,” Herbie Hancock’s “Watermelon Man” in “When the Music’s Over,” the Kinks in “Hello, I Love You,” etc.), still jump out of the radio when they come on, and people listen, even if they snort smugly. And you can say what you want about Jimmy’s poetics, but his voice was (and remains) undeniable. That baritone was unique; it could evoke Sinatra on the ballads and morph into the screams of the self-damned on the rockers, and it is the element of him that defies the laughter all these years later and still makes the band a force to be reckoned with– still a major commercial force more than 35 years after he flamed out. I personally think he was laughing at himself; he was incredibly insecure and self-destructive, but he still means more than KC and the rest of that ilk. Laugh all you want, but The Doors will still be around when Kurt finishes his steady dissolution into a footnote.

Michell Ginsburg | 6/19/2007, 6:09 pm EST

I have to agree with everyone who has commented about the Doors. All of their music is overrated.
“There’s a killer on the road
His brain is skirming like a toad.”
Are you serious?

john | 6/19/2007, 5:57 pm EST

AIC albums didnt fly off the shelves when Layne Staley died because AIC was already 10 years past their prime……

john | 6/19/2007, 5:57 pm EST

AIC albums didnt fly off the shelves when Layne Staley died because AIC was already 10 years past their prime……

layne staley died | 6/19/2007, 5:12 pm EST

First off, Im from just outside of Seattle and went off to college in 91 right around the time this whole “grunge” thing blew up. All you heard at my school was Nevermind or 10 or Soundgarden and Alice in Chains everywhere you went. Just cause Kurt happened to pass and their music got even more popular should not discount the fact that Nirvana was a special band with a unique sound. As for most overrated bands I would have to toss Blind Melon in as my vote. And dont forget, layne staley died and AIC records didnt suddenly start flying off the shelves and their popoularity didnt increase. But make no mistake about my comments, I am a huge Alice fan…Layne had a voice like no other.. Mad Season was one of the greatest albums I ever heard… I know they didnt come out with a new album after he died but still….another overrated band…Rage Against the Machine…cool band but one dimensional…and I have almost all their stuff…im such a sucker…man, and Audioslave too…saw it coming…sounds just like Rage with Cornell on vocals and Morello making his guitar sounds like a freight trian and then a cat and then a foghorn…cmon…

kirk cobain | 6/19/2007, 4:46 pm EST

man, this shotgun has a real kick.

emily | 6/19/2007, 4:44 pm EST

I’m a fan of the beatles manily i like to play there songs on guitar but i acutally think that sargent peppers is overrated. I am a Radiohead fan and i think Kid A is as well.

emily | 6/19/2007, 4:43 pm EST

I’m a fan of the beatles manily i like to play there songs on guitar but i acutally think that sargent peppers is overrated. I am a Radiohead fan and i think Kid is as well.

Just Me | 6/19/2007, 4:25 pm EST

Anything I don’t like is overrated.

SATAN | 6/19/2007, 4:15 pm EST

Youarealltonedeaf, if you are refering to the list I made:
(60’s - Pet Sounds/Sgt. Peppers
70’s - Led Zep IV/Dark Side Of The Moon
80’s - 1984/Diary Of A Madman
90’s - Nevermind/Ten)
That was a list of the defining records of those decades from my point of view, I wasn’t dissing them.

Booger | 6/19/2007, 4:10 pm EST

[edit]
Whoops! Meant to say I don’t know a single song/artist/album that DOESN’T begin to sound stale after heavy rotation.

SATAN | 6/19/2007, 4:10 pm EST

Dave grohl doesn’t deserve to lick the creative stains from Kurt’s bed sheets. Better Voice? Please tell me you’re either retarded or kidding, what a jerk off. Have you heard In Your Honor, the worst album ever is what they should have named it. Foo Fighters are good, but they don’t even belong in the same sentence as Nirvana unless it’s a chronological account of the band’s Grohl has been in

SATAN | 6/19/2007, 4:09 pm EST

Dave grohl doesn’t deserve to lick the creative stains from Kurt’s bed sheets. Better Voice? Please tell me you’re either retarded or kidding, what a jerk off. Have you heard In Your Honor, the worst album ever is what they should have named it. Foo Fighters are good, but they don’t even belong in the same sentence as Nirvana unless it’s a chronological account of the band’s Grohl has been in

Youarealltonedeaf | 6/19/2007, 4:07 pm EST

Just from what I’ve read and the way that the “overrated” tag gets so easily thrown on certain bands like Nirvana, it leads me to believe that the people saying it are the very people responsible for keeping the plasticene, mass-produced, wanna-be-pop-star garbage from HELL on Billboard’s charts for the last 20 years.

Dark Side of the Moon? Sgt Pepper?!

If you don’t like the bands, fine, but to say that these albums are even slightly overrated is proof positive that you probably, in your lifetime, paid money for a Warrant album and it is likely still in your current music rotation in your ‘86 Camaro. Nirvana broke down so many walls, and I guess only those of us that were around and had endured the God-awful atrocity that was 80’s music can understand and appreciate them. Or maybe it’s just me…

Whatever the case, put down the pipe, folks. Emo will be dead soon enough and you’ll have to find something else trendy to listen to.

Booger | 6/19/2007, 4:07 pm EST

Overrated? I don’t know a single song/album/artist that starts to feel stale after months or even weeks of heavy rotation on US and worldwide radio stations. Do the talent and creative output of a single person or creative entity live up to the cult of personality that the music industry uses to market their products? No way. Just be happy that these artists feel free to actually make art and not give into the silence that this whole peanut gallery of naysayers attempts to screech them into. Pitch-corrected Pro Tools fools being labeled as rock gods in order to facilitate a successful tour, so what if their fart art makes people feel something? Opinions are like assholes…

F you All | 6/19/2007, 3:58 pm EST

Nevermind is one of the best alternative albums of all time. Not only was it ultra orginal for its time, ” comming out of the crappy glam rock phase”, but kurt cobain was a real F’in poet not everyones overrated idol jim borrison!

F you All | 6/19/2007, 3:58 pm EST

Nevermind is one of the best alternative albums of all time. Not only was it ultra orginal for its time, ” comming out of the crappy glam rock phase”, but kurt cobain was a real F’in poet not everyones overrated idol jim borrison!

Muzakman | 6/19/2007, 3:47 pm EST

Nirvana is totally overrated. Dave Grohl is a much better singer/songwriter/guitarist than Cobain.
Cobain is now a product/industry (t-shirts posters, etc.)since his death. He was never that good.

Cowboy | 6/19/2007, 3:44 pm EST

Lets forget all this and look to the future - a future in which Amy Winehouse is already forgotten -

Judas Beast | 6/19/2007, 3:21 pm EST

Nevermind:
Overated? Maybe
Brilliant? NO!
Right timing? YES!!!
It was ‘91 and eveything was overproduced, and reeking of hairspray.
I was just the right F.U. to all the pretty things.
Just like Appetite for Destruction.

matt | 6/19/2007, 3:19 pm EST

My own candidate for most overrated:

The Velvet Underground and Nico. Of VU’s four albums, it’s by far the worst (”I’m Waiting For the Man” and “Sunday Morning” notwithstanding). Even White Light/White Heat is better. Yet VU & Nico gets ALL the props.

matt | 6/19/2007, 3:13 pm EST

Someone said “Sandinista”?? What a dumb thing to say. You’re free to like it or not, but in order for it to be OVERrated it has to have been WELL rated. It wasn’t - it got alternately knocked and ignored.

SATAN | 6/19/2007, 3:03 pm EST

60’s - Pet Sounds/Sgt. Peppers
70’s - Led Zep IV/Dark Side Of The Moon
80’s - 1984/Diary Of A Madman
90’s - Nevermind/Ten

enough said!!!

Jeff | 6/19/2007, 2:59 pm EST

Kurt didn’t go out ‘like a chump’. He had a bipolar disorder, drug addictions, depression and people watching every second of that due to fame.
That would make a much healthier guy than Kurt consider his options.

matt | 6/19/2007, 2:56 pm EST

Long live Wayne Coyne. After reading that quote I’m going out to buy some of his albums just to support him.

Nirvana is in their own class of overrated bands. Guys like U2, The Rolling Stones and others who have been called “the greatest rock bands on earth” are all way overrated, no doubt about it. But at least they are GOOD. Very good, in fact.

But Nirvana? They just suck. Always have, always will.

wrecksracer | 6/19/2007, 2:45 pm EST

Nevermind is a decent album…..but Kurt Cobain? Geez! How can you make a Martyr out of somebody who went out like a chump? It puts their efforts in a bad light

rockstar70 | 6/19/2007, 2:37 pm EST

Icky Thump…………Icky Crap!!!

Beedubs03 | 6/19/2007, 1:41 pm EST

I don’t think Nirvana was overrated when they were around. Of course they became overrated after Cobain’s death, being blown out of proportion big time, just like Bradley Nowell of Sublime. Great bands, but people make them out to be phenomenal when a tragedy happens within the band. Every death makes a band exponentially greater in the eyes of the fans…and as hard as it is to say this being the huge Beatles fan that I am, it even goes for John Lennon.

For those that think Phish are overrated, let me clue ya…they are the most underrated band of the last twenty years. No one has been more musically dedicated than Phish, and it required no commercialization for them to become what they were.

HODGEPODGE | 6/19/2007, 1:34 pm EST

I’m lost, if you don’t like a band their whole catalogue is overated, that’s stupid. Didn’t this start with Nevermind, isn’t it the Holy Book of Seatle

Walt Bennett | 6/19/2007, 1:32 pm EST

I’d like to nominate “Layla” by Derek and the Dominos as one of the most UNDERRATED albums of all time. Only 113 on the RS Top 500? Never sold more than 500,000 copies? Incredible. This is a double-LP without a single dull moment, and very many magical ones. “Tell The Truth”, “Roll It Over”, “Keeps On Growin”…all of these songs would prove to be killer live tracks, which was obvious from the way they were recorded, with minimal overdub (Duane Allman got to the studio when he had the time, and did lay down some ‘after the fact’ solos).

What a record and what a place in time Criterion Studios had to have been that summer and fall.

The record barely made an impact upon release, but picked up some steam when the title track (edit version of course) became popular (pizza shop juke box memories on that one, for sure)…but 500,000 copies ALL TIME? That are far too few people to own such a timeless classic of dripping, molten, pure rock.

drewfromnujeru | 6/19/2007, 1:30 pm EST

oh just thought i would mention at that period of time mtv still played music!

drewfromnujeru | 6/19/2007, 1:25 pm EST

i think we’re all overlooking one point here, and i apologize if this has been said because i honestly only read about 50 posts before posting this thought- i am a huge nirvana fan and can remember like most the period of time when this album came out. one thing about these bands like nirvana, the stones, the doors, the beatles- is that their music got down into people’s SOULS. people were affected by these groups so much that there were conversations in the middle of streets about what this music meant to them and how moved they were. yeah this is a little emotional on my part but if you look at the way the entire public felt, vs the way one “professional” felt, i mean look at the RS rating of nevermind vs the public- 3 stars from the critic, 4.5 stars from millions of fans- to get a difference like that is not even close! the people spoke and we have our answer. my final point is that bands today like the white stripes wouldn’t have a chance with their sound if there wasn’t nirvana, pearl jam, soundgarden, live, etc. you really think the stripes aren’t trying to recreate that sound, weren’t influenced by cobain/grohl/novasellic? PLEASE!

rockstar70 | 6/19/2007, 1:22 pm EST

Appetite for destruction was the best hard rock album of all time.

I’m not dead yet Chris but if I was listening to your favorites I would gladly poke my eardrums out.

Walt Bennett | 6/19/2007, 1:17 pm EST

The problem with proclaiming albums such as “Sgt. Pepper” or “Nevermind” to be overrated is that quite aside from the obvious fact that such a label is by definition subjective, is the simple truth that these albums got their reputations for the significance they had on an era in rock.

In that light, those records can never be considered overrated. There was a pop world before and after “Sgt. Pepper” and there was most definitely a pop world before and after “Nevermind”, which simultaneously killed off two genres overnight: hair metal and Michael Jackson sheen pop. Both strains disappeared immediately.

As for what does constitute a slightly less subjective depiction of an actual over-rated record…that would have to be a record I ran out and bought based on a good Rolling Stone review, but which failed to live up to the hype, right?

“It’s A Beautiful Day” comes to mind. I found that record truly annoying, not any sort of “love era” classic. Perhaps it is too long forgotten to be considered “overrated”.

I’ll go with this: Disraeli Gears from Cream. I always believed that Clapton’s solo on “Sunshine Of Your Love” was drunkenly incoherent, and “Tales Of Brave Ulysses” was just an annoying song in the first place. Certainly Cream was a seminal band and the members virtuosos, but virtuosity is not always a virtue when it is not served well; and this band was always a bit too full of itself.

Let’s bring them down a notch and give them a “most overrated” award to keep them humble.

john | 6/19/2007, 1:16 pm EST

sniff…if you cant tell the difference between bands like poison and warrant compared to guns n roses you are deaf….Nirvana was so over-rated…but like some other poster said over-rated does not mean bad…they were very good…but they really shot up in popularity after kurts suicide…at the time of kurts death Guns N Roses were still the biggest band on the planet…and to this day Appetite has outsold EVERY NIRVANA ALBUM COMBINED in the united states….nirvana was a cool band but were very one dimesional…

... | 6/19/2007, 1:03 pm EST

john mayer is painfully overrated. RS only likes him cuz hes a bush basher, which is so PATHETICALLY un rock and roll…how much EASIER can it get that to say, oh i hate george bush, save the trees, blah blah blah. and then RS claims u as a new guitar god.

oh and the doors. *Shivers* i wish they would go die in a hole. probably more overrated than nirvana.

Rollingstonenvrgivesbadreviews | 6/19/2007, 12:41 pm EST

Nirvana is the most overrated band in history.

WOW | 6/19/2007, 12:38 pm EST

I am surprised how many people are saying the Doors are over-rated. I am not sure what kind of critical acclaim it received but LA Women is a great album!

Jmac | 6/19/2007, 12:34 pm EST

Everything the Rolling Stones did after 1974 is overrated.

Nevermind however is not overrated, It brought back music that had feeling to it….not just chicks and booze like hair metal

Saul Hudson | 6/19/2007, 12:33 pm EST

GnR’s Appetite for Destruction. Good Album, particularly compared to what was out at the time. Not amazing though.

Saul Hudson | 6/19/2007, 12:32 pm EST

GnR’s Appetite for Destruction. Good Album, but hardly mindblowing.

mexistani16 | 6/19/2007, 12:29 pm EST

I have to admit, I laughed when I read what Coyne said about Nevermind…but surely what he said was merely an exaggeration. Yes, I believe that In Utero was a superior album than Nevermind, but Nevermind was the album that exposed grunge rock to the mainstream, giving it more influence than any other album at its time.

As for overrated bands, I would have to agree with what most people are posting: Most of the Doors’ stuff is overrated (except for Riders on the Storm and Light My Fire), Pink Floyd is a bit (but they’re still good), and most of the mainstream music coming out now…in a sense, pop music was doomed when it became packaged in the 60’s with groups like the ronettes and the shirelles…and i won’t mention groups like nickelback and greenday…it seems everyone before it has bashed them enough, so I’ll spare them…

john S | 6/19/2007, 12:27 pm EST

give hoponpop a medal

Kyle | 6/19/2007, 12:22 pm EST

Wayne Coyne should shut up, and go back to singing songs about pink robots, and making albums that need 4 CD players in order to play them. He’s just jealous that Nirvana had more of an impact than his pretentious band.

As for Nevermind being overrated… can’t agree with that argument. I can’t think of one album that changed the musical landscape in the past 20 years than that, though I do prefer In Utero.Seriosuly… didn’t hair metal pretty much vanish once MTV started playing Teen Spirit? Who else knocked Michael Jackson off the top of the charts? Certainly not the Flaming Lips.

I hate it when people say that “Oh, Nirvana only gets acclaim cuz Kurt blew his head off.” My answer to that: Refer to the December 93 issue of NME, when they named the 100 Greatest Albums Ever, and Nevermind was ranked #12… and Kurt was still alive.

curt kobain | 6/19/2007, 12:16 pm EST

i have a real bad headache…. nevermind

Chris | 6/19/2007, 12:10 pm EST

rockstar70, please go die somewhere…NOW

hoponpop | 6/19/2007, 12:09 pm EST

Overrated by whom? The public? Critics? Or just in general? A lot of folks here seem confused between a disc being “over-rated” and a disc being “bad”. Most people would not dispute the fact that the first Arctic Monkeys album was definitely overrated (as an example), but it’s a terrific album. It’s just a rock record though, not the second coming, the way most articles made it sound at the time of their release. “Definitely Maybe”, “The Wall”, “Get Behind Me Satan”, and just about everything the Flaming Lips ever released are totally over-rated among thousands of other discs…but I like all of them tremendously. They’re just records though. Lots of stuff more important in life. Something I think most of the people involved with making the records listed above will agree with.

And I’ve found that most people who say the Beatles were over-rated are usually too young to remember the influence felt by the band when they were an active, functioning unit. Not just musically, but in style and social trends as well. There’s never been a band before or since that has had such an impact. I personally think that, say, “Rubber Soul” or “Revolver” are better listening than “Pepper”, but over-rated? Nah…when it was released, it sounded like it came from another planet, that’s how different it was from anything that came before it. Just my $.02

john S | 6/19/2007, 12:03 pm EST

Someone mentioned coldplay as being overrated and I have to agree that they are getting there. Unless they at least tweak their music a little bit before their next album they will become overrated. They still make good music though.

Hugo A. | 6/19/2007, 11:59 am EST

Overrated NIrvana? please, go and listen The Artic Monkeys… that ban can be called overrated, but no Nirvana.

rockstar70 | 6/19/2007, 11:58 am EST

Think of all the crap that people call great…
The strokes
The hives
The vines
The libertines
What Garabage!!! I’ll take NEVERMIND any day over that. Hell I’ll take silence over those nobs!!

GOPINDRAG | 6/19/2007, 11:55 am EST

all music is overrated
all musical significance overstated
all sales charts so outdated

Dave | 6/19/2007, 11:55 am EST

Why are people posting Nickelback albums in the overrated category? I don’t think anyone outside of a NASCAR event has ever mistaken Nickelback for rock geniuses.

Re: The Beatles, I do think praise of Sgt. Pepper is overblown. Rubber Soul, Revolver and The White Album are better. It’s still damn good album though.

Wayne Coyne is right about Nevermind. It was a great album for its time, but I never find myself going back to it. In Utero is more lasting.

My choices for overrated albums: anything by The Doors, anything by U2 post Achtung Baby, anything in the Aerosmith catalog, grunge music in general from 91-94 excluding Alice in Chains, Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins

rockstar70 | 6/19/2007, 11:52 am EST

Nirvana is NOT overrated. they changed the musical and cultural landscape. It doesn’t mean they were perfect it’s just that their impact was signifigant….thus they are not overrated.

The Flaming LIPS SUCK!!!

Matthew | 6/19/2007, 11:40 am EST

Coldplay is overrated too… yet I’ve not seen anyone complain about them.

On The Beat | 6/19/2007, 11:40 am EST

Underrated -

1)The Police - People easily overlook them due to Sting’s solo career following the dissolution of the group. The Press loved to scorn and criticize him, therefore casting a shadow over the greatest Rock Trio in history. Recently, saw both shows in Seattle, It truly is like they never left the scene. Incredible Energy, talent and sophistication. They are back in BLUE!

ryan | 6/19/2007, 11:34 am EST

a lot of you guys who are bashing jam bands are really really retarded. grateful dead and phish albums were not overrated, they barely got any props at all because the fans and the bands knew that they weren’t even that good. the strength of these bands was the unbelievable live shows they put on. their studio albums were definitely not overrated, they were mostly criticized. And if you think they are overrated then you just don’t know good music if i hits you in the face, go listen to some 80s pop and grunge. what a laughing stock

Kurt Cobain | 6/19/2007, 11:34 am EST

I think ANAL is overrated!
ANAL ANAL ANAL!!!!!!!!

Matthew | 6/19/2007, 11:32 am EST

All of the cds above that got good critical reviews, are technically excellent and fresh. Just because Nirvana isn’t really catchy like their idols, the “Pixies,” does not mean that Nevermind, and In Utero weren’t masterpieces of the emerging grunge genre. About Nickelback.. what hype? They’ve always sucked, and their music has always sounded the same. White stripes are awesome, Flaming Lips are awesome, 1999 is SUPER awesome. Just get a better attention span, and wider tastes you morons. What’s really overrated is bands like Fall Out Boy, and My Chemical Romance. Just because they’re slightly better and more thematic than the average pop/punk band DOES NOT mean they’re actually talented in any way.

Lucifer Sam | 6/19/2007, 11:28 am EST

I do like nirvana, but nevermind is really overrated

stuff by great bands like the beatles and the stones, but from the early 60s and not really any progression from the decade before is really overrated

Defender of the Faith | 6/19/2007, 11:22 am EST

With the backdrop of late 80’s and early 90’s hair metal as the norm, any hard rock/metal/punk that was half way decent would have ended up being over rated because music fans were starving for something new. So, it is hard to say that Nevermind is not over rated, butthat does not take away from its quality or landmark status.

shaggles | 6/19/2007, 11:20 am EST

“Joshua Tree” by U2
“Peggy Suicide” by Julian Cope
“Sandinista” by the Clash
“1999″ by Prince
“Never Mind the Bollocks” by the Sex Pistols

WVU Rocker | 6/19/2007, 11:14 am EST

I’m not a Buckcherry fan, never got into them byt I hear nothing but good things. I feel Brand New is vastly unerrated, yes they used to make oppy little highschool punk cds that were very catchy but their last 2 albums were very strong.

john S | 6/19/2007, 11:10 am EST

I’m glad someone finally mentioned buckchery as being underrated. The music world was so desperate for good rock music in 1999 that their first album got way over hyped. Then everyone got tired of them and moved on. Their new album 15 came out last year and is their best album by far but its only managed to sell 1 million copies. That’s no small feat but it should have sold a lot more.

WVU Rocker | 6/19/2007, 11:08 am EST

Also, I am not by any means a Lips fan, I feel they make very unentertaining music, am I the miniority here though?

John Mabery | 6/19/2007, 11:07 am EST

Nevermind isn’t overrated. It’s more that people are tired of hearing about it because it was an album they grew up with, or at least had to deal with in their lifetime. That’s like saying that Pulp Fiction is overrated just because people are tired of hearing it’s praises be sung for so long now about how groundbreaking it is.

If you want to talk about overrated, that would HAVE to be The Strokes. The lovefests that some other magazines have with them makes it all that much worse too.

WVU Rocker | 6/19/2007, 11:07 am EST

In response to an earlier comment I feel Sgt. Peppers is superior to Pet Sounds, yet the Beach Boys made an album w/ atleast 4 unforgettable tunes on it. Is it really possible for the Beatles to be overrated, they were the most popular nad the best at what they did, how many can say that.

BMS | 6/19/2007, 11:06 am EST

This from a guy in a f’ing bunny suit…acknowledging comments for more than 30 seconds from anyone calling “Nevermind” overrated is a waste of time. Let me guess cooler-than-the-room indie wannabees and teenie boppers, the Beatles weren’t that good either, right?

Taylor | 6/19/2007, 10:48 am EST

dont hate.

Taylor | 6/19/2007, 10:47 am EST

dont hate.

Taylor | 6/19/2007, 10:46 am EST

I grew up with Nirvana. I don’t think they’re over rated at all. Let’s see you try and make music like Kurt. I don’t think you could, sucka. His lyrics are crazy.. I think he had such a sick mind.. The flaming lips are overrated.. so are Greenday. oh boy they really sold out..

Believe It | 6/19/2007, 10:45 am EST

Coyne is not wrong to say that Nevermind is overrated. But context is everything, and here it might be better if he said the LP was “overplayed.” As in, radio and MTV programmed those songs to death, and the band and the record company overplayed their hand in selling the product in too many unenlightened markets.

It’s only in hindsight that you can see the effects of a massive Nevermind campaign on the band, the fans, and particularly on Cobain. For example, their next record — a far superior set of songs and much richer subject matter, with brilliant anti-production by Steve Albini — suffers the half-assed fate of the “follow-up.” If expectations had been more realistic, In Utero would have been appreciated as the stellar collection of post-grunge songs that it is. Not some ragged edge of the band as it began to fall apart.

No, Nevermind is not a stone classic. It’s too insular, too of its time. You could say that in places it is reactionary. But it is a landmark of hard rock and teenage angst, and it deserves a place in the canon.

To compare it to Nickelback, I hope, was just a joke.

Alex | 6/19/2007, 10:43 am EST

Personally I feel that The Flaming Lips are overrated.

Sam | 6/19/2007, 10:09 am EST

Personally, I think many of you are missing the point. It’s not a question of Cobain or Nirvana being overated, which, even as a fan, I agree they are. Coyne said that NEVERMIND was overated… and he couldn’t be more wrong. That one album changed the mainstream and alternative music landscape like nothing had in years. The album was more than the sum of it’s parts. When it was released, the term Grunge did not even exist and no one knew who the heck Cobain was! The sound was new and fresh, you couldn’t label it. It was kinda like when punk broke out in the 70’s, but on a much broader and grander scale. The release of Nevermind affected music and culture throughout the world, it was like a big enema for our collective ears. This is a fact which you can’t deny regardless of whether or not you like the music (if you doubt me, go back and look at the billboard lists when Nevermind was released, it’s who’s who of one hit wonders, over produced hair bands, and no talent pop stars). True, other bands have produced albums throughout the years that may have been better than Nevermind on some level. But just like music, timing is everything.

Russ H...BPCCman | 6/19/2007, 10:07 am EST

A list of bands that are overrated
1)Nirvana- Influencal yes, but very overhyped
2)Nickelback-Man-gi na rock at its worst
3)The Doors-Where to start?
4)The Beatles-Influental, but come on. Half the problem is their fans overdoing their contribution
5)Pink Floyd-Good albums, but people act like its sex
6)Just about any rap-How can you be loved for writing about the same shit over and over again.

There are more, but these are the ones at the forefront.

h | 6/19/2007, 10:02 am EST

rolling stones
the who

Jack | 6/19/2007, 9:56 am EST

Use Your Illusion - Guns ‘n Roses

Anything by Bob Dylan after Desire

Stillrolling | 6/19/2007, 9:50 am EST

Nirvana was mind blowing by the time Smells like teen spirit went out. Totally new wave! You must have the guts to admit!

Buzzardo | 6/19/2007, 9:38 am EST

(Sorry if I missed it…) Most of the “albums” churned out by Ryan Adams. Boil it down, dude!

Kevin | 6/19/2007, 9:36 am EST

It’s about damn time someone came out and said this. I’ve been telling people that Nirvana is overrated for years.

Kurt was a decent song writer and an average guitar player at best. The best thing he’s ever done was make way for the Foo Fighters.

Weezer | 6/19/2007, 9:29 am EST

Weezer may be the most overrated gibberish ever. Just because they made being a geek popular? Come on’…….I fart better music than Weezer ever put out.

hehe | 6/19/2007, 9:22 am EST

nirvana is totally overrated, the fortune the acheived was more of a right place, right time thing, there were loads of bands that were way more groundbreaking than nirvana, in fact nirvana wasn’t groundbreaking at all, people tend to act like it was because is was the first time that kind of music was in the top 40

Razzle Diz | 6/19/2007, 9:16 am EST

Hey Snif, you obviously didn’t look hard at GnR’s pics, to notice they didn’t wear makeup, they were four street urchin’s right of the street’s of LA rags to riches bad ass rockers…. and you obviously didn’t listen to thier music to understand it was on a different scale completely then the other bands of that era! Which is why GnR is playing to a sold out crowd in Australia tonight, 20 years after they broke out of the scene and not playing backyard fairs and festivals like Poison. Do your homework and quit “Sniffin” the glue!

Penny | 6/19/2007, 9:15 am EST

I’ve never understood the accolades for Nirvana. They were good and had some decent tunes, but I don’t think their music was that earth shattering. The other bands out of that era were far superior IMHO. Particularly Alice in Chains and Soundgarden. I think people jump on bandwagons and believe too much of the hype instead of trusting their ears.

Scott | 6/19/2007, 8:55 am EST

Words are too limiting to fully describe how overrated Kanye West is.

Scott | 6/19/2007, 8:55 am EST

Words are too limiting to fully describe how overrated Kanye West is.

Farley | 6/19/2007, 8:50 am EST

Alot of people dont like Nirvana because of their own personal taste in Music, which really doesnt mean that Nirvana or Nevermind was overrated. I’m not a fan of R&B but that doesnt mean I think Marvin Gayes Whats Goin On is overrated. There is no denying that album and artist affected a ton of people even if I wasnt one of them, which in essence makes it important. The Cultural impact an album or artist HAD/HAS
defintley merits consideration when determining if they are indeed overrated.

Rotkehlchen | 6/19/2007, 8:48 am EST

what a loser get-together…

p.s. god, your funny! All of you!

Dan | 6/19/2007, 8:42 am EST

I feel that Nirvana and Grunge was groundbreaking at the time because it changed music. However, grunge paved the way for crap like Creed, Evanesance, Puddle of Mud and the rest of the it to become popular. Just as arena rock became tired in the 80’s, so too has the offspring of grunge by the late 90’s and early 00’s.

since hind sight is 20/20…I will agree and say that Nirvana is overrated. They changed music but not exactly for the better.

musiclvr | 6/19/2007, 8:26 am EST

forgot to mention anything by My Chemical Romance. Why do they even exist????

musiclvr | 6/19/2007, 8:24 am EST

OVERRATED IN MY OPINION: all the hair bands of the 80’s, and anything by AC/DC, Nirvana, Alicia Keys, Evanescence, Kanye West, Creed, Usher’s last album, everything by P Diddy EXCEPT his last album, most of today’s hip-hop…. I could go on & on & on……

SATAN | 6/19/2007, 8:05 am EST

and to say that nirvana isn’t important is idiotic. whenever there is a topic about nirvana there is an overload of comments.
Like it or not, kurt was the lennon of the 90’s. eddie was jethro tull

SATAN | 6/19/2007, 8:03 am EST

john, you are not a Nirvana fan.

Dana C. | 6/19/2007, 8:02 am EST

What Nevermind did at the time was save us from all the crap that was playing. Nirvana and all the other bands from that genre were great at what they did. Whether you call it grunge, alternative, flannel it doesn’t matter. The music from Seattle in the late 80’s, early 90’s reminded us that musicians didn’t have to dress up and wear makeup to be heard. Nirvana’s Nevermind in my mind, is a classic for what it stood for at the time. Kurt Cobain was a beautiful person who wrote music that touched alot of people. People have thier own opinions but to compare Nirvana to Nickelback? Please.

Keith Talent | 6/19/2007, 8:01 am EST

Hmmm,I’d say these get way too much praise:

The White Stripes-pretty much every album
Hot Hot Heat-Makeup The Breakdown
R.E.M.-Document

Flaming Farts | 6/19/2007, 7:42 am EST

All the bands I like are underrated; those I don’t like are overrated. Who’s right, and who’s wrong? Raphael can’t hold a candle to Dali because he is not a surrealist. You listen, if you like it it’s good, if not, don’t listen again.

PeteHagen | 6/19/2007, 7:13 am EST

Yeah, Nevermind is overrated… but overrated doesn’t mean bad. Sorry Wayne Coyne, but Yoshimi is overrated too. Good, but overrated.

francbroc | 6/19/2007, 7:01 am EST

Any rolling stones album since start me up is overrated. And a few of them before aren’t so good either….

Jim | 6/19/2007, 6:30 am EST

Hang on a sec,someone from THE FLAMING LIPS is calling NIRVANA over-rated?I don’t think he’s ever listened to any of his band’s own over-hyped meaningless piece of shit music.Flaming Lips are a novelty act at the very best.
Any Raiohead,Pavement,Pink Floyd or Arcade Fire album(as good as they are) are completely overrated.

col | 6/19/2007, 6:21 am EST

How can anyone say the Beatles were overrat6ed. Come on, think!! Yes, Nirvana were overrated as were the Doors. How popular were they really until their frontmen croaked? Rolling Stones too. They should have packed in after Let It Bleed. They are a joke. UNderrated bands have got to be Buckcherry, the Black Keys and Zen Guerrilla.

mike t | 6/19/2007, 5:51 am EST

Nevermind is overrated as is Smells Like Teen Spirit.

Dr Dre - Chronic 2001 - quite possibly one of the worst hip hop albums i’ve ever heard!

Anything by Eminem - completely overrated bollocks!!

Radiohead - post OK Computer - different doesn’t always equals exciting!

tERRY bOAKE | 6/19/2007, 4:43 am EST

“Nevermind” by Nirvana is the most overrated album of all time. That’s easy. Not so many others come to mind. “TV on the Radio”s music is mostly horrid, but a critical success. U2’s “How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb” was a forgetting album racking up accolades.
To go to truly overrated, you’d have to go further back than a few years ago. Since I am barely 20, Nirvana’s won it by default.

tERRY bOAKE | 6/19/2007, 4:43 am EST

“Nevermind” by Nirvana is the most overrated album of all time. That’s easy. Not so many others come to mind. “TV on the Radio”s music is mostly horrid, but a critical success. U2’s “How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb” was a forgetting album racking up accolades.
To go to truly overrated, you’d have to go further back than a few years ago. Since I am barely 20, Nirvana’s won it by default.