definitly nevermind. and all that stuff coming out that kurt never did this or that or whatever. there are only like 3 good songs on there anyway.

Kid A –
Bought it – Never *Got it*.

Anything by Pearl Jam after “Ten”.

any Flaming Lips album

Any Grateful Dead or jam band garbage

Dirty Dancing.

enough said.

kid A

Guns and Roses – Appetite for Destrustion

The last 3 Bob Dylan Albums. Just because he’s a legend doesn’t make his new stuff good.

Hotel California.

Pink Floyd… All of their records are garbage!

fuck him! nevermind is truley a good album, but i think many people fail to realize that because many of the songs have been fiercly overplayed.

Boston’s “Boston”. never understood the mass popularity of this, and never will.

Boston’s “Boston”. never understood the mass popularity of this, and never will.

wilco – yankee hotel foxtrot
springsteen – born to run
red hot chilli peppers – blood sex sugar magic

wilco – yankee hotel foxtrot
springsteen – born to run
red hot chili peppers – blood sex sugar magic

Whatever People Say I Am, That’s What I’m Not – Arctic Monkeys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the flaming f*gs(whoops, I meant lips) are horrible. They must have an album coming out for them to bash a dead band who is 50x the band they are. 3 good songs on nevermind, please asshole. If it wasn’t for Nirvana there would be no flaming lips, everything would be hair metal. Just because Nickleback stole some style doesn’t mean that Nirvana SOUND LIKE THEM. Kurt was carasmatic, wrote good songs and didn’t give a F***. Now stay with me here, I’m not comparing Dark Side Of The Moon to Nevermind, what I’m saying is, those albums were just as important for the changing of times in their respective generations. And while we’re on the subject of Pink Floyd, I think The Wall would have been a great 5 song EP, not a repetitive, boring 30 song disaster.

The Wall:

I finally realized it’s not a Pink floyd album, but instead a Roger Waters solo album that Bob Ezrin got the oppertunity to turn into a grandiose …well… thing

The Flaming Lips are over-rated,a one trick pony band of aging baboons.

NEXT?

Is this serious, hypocracy is so insane these days

The Soft Bulletin is such an overrated piece of overproduced blah that sounds like so much effort to make something different.
Plus it is the first real flaming lips album where they do a 180 and start loving life and being all positive, the same band in the 80s that did punk rock scream “I want my own planet, the human race I can’t stand it.”
man does this piss me off

I think Pink Floyd and the Eagles are two overrated bands. I’ve never understood what the fuss is about. They’re boring.

yea nevermind was blown up AFTER kurt cobain died but u kno wat?! it was also a successful album when he was alive too! so it CANT b sed that its overrated due to his death kurt cobain himself is overrated but not his music! his music had great timing in when it came out! it came out wen rock just wasnt hitting any strong chords in the mainstream! so wat did Nevermind do? helped the transition of rock back into the mainstream! so is it over rated abso-F***ING-lotely not…..n honestly wat wud u rather listen to 80s symph crap (i.e.- Wang Chung) or Nirvana?
as for wats overrated MAROON 5-FALL OUT BOY-LINKIN PARK’S MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT-BON JOVI-and the NUMBER ONE OVERRATED ALBUM MODERN ROCK IS NICKELBACKS “ALL THE RIGHT REASONS”

Any WHITE STRIPES albums.Just an awful band for people that have no clue as to what good music is.COMPLETE frat boy music,if that.

Wayne Coyne is a f&*%ing asshole! He’s just jealous he could never write or be part of a record that succeeded artistically,commercially, that had such a huge impact on society and that completely captured the spirit and energy of the time and those that lived it. Coyne’s a hack who dreams of being John Lennon, and Kurdt Cobain was probably the closest thing we’ve had to a Lennon, as far as songcraft, melody, and honesty in a really long time. What pisses Coyne off the most is probably how simple the songs are. Those are the greatest and hardest songs to write and The Flaming Lips, with all their f*&!ing human bubbles, useless noise, pretensious artist posturing,and irrelevant lyrics don’t come close.

-”Yankee Foxtrot Hotel”, Wilco
-Any Metallica album

Comparing Nevermind to Nickleback is pretty much one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.

I don’t understand all the fawning over Queens of the Stone Age, specifically Songs for the Deaf.

Bjork.Bitch can’t sing,dresses like a clown & is rather painful to look at.

U2…..what’s so nice about them?

Anything from Pearl Jam after “Ten”??? You must like Britney or Creed.

The White Stripes are god awful.No wonder W Bush is your Prez americans are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo easily fooled.

Anything by the Dead.

Pearl Jam–Ten: Good songs, but ugh, why so much reverb? They’ve made better albums.

Pearl Jam–Ten: Good songs, but ugh, why so much reverb? They’ve made better albums.

Anything by the Dead.

Pearl Jam–Ten: Good songs, but ugh, why so much reverb? They’ve made better albums.

Wilco – Ghost and Yankee sucked. At least they came back strong with Sky.

i don’t think you can trust anything coyne says, you cannot compare nirvana to nickelback. you just can’t expect any respect or anyone to take you seriously. you’re a boob mr. coyne. get back in the bubble and float away.

Eagles – Lame

RadioHead – All hype no balls

White Stripes – Ear splitting garbage

anything from ColdPlay

Sgt. Pepper.

It’s not even the Beatles Best album, yet some outlets (this one included) rate it as the greatest album of all time.

Nevermind and Tupac, any Biggie Smalls, and Jimi and Janis…all those dead rockers and rappers aren’t nearly as good as people pretend them to be.

Anything by Solo Lamente Doug, David Coverdale or William. These guys suck and probably love back street boys

anything from Genesis AFTER 1978

Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band
Dark Side of the Moon
The Soft Bulletin
Funeral

Anything by Yoko Ono–RS always gives her records 4-5 stars. Nirvana–I think “Nevermind” is about 1/2 the record “In Utero” is. Lastly, Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Heart’s Club Band, way overrated.

OK Computer by Radiohead

Metallica – Master of Puppets
Led Zeppelin – IV
Queen – A Night at The Opera
U2 – The Joshua Tree
Green Day – Dookie
Pink Floyd – Wish You Were Here
The Beatles – Abbey Road
The Beatles – Revolver
Aerosmith – Toys In The Attic
Aerosmith – Big Ones
David Bowie – Ziggy Stardust
Alice In Chains – Jar of Flies
Radiohead – OK Computer

The Flaming Lips are my fav. they rock my sox.

- Ditto on the Flaming Lips. I saw them get booed off the stage at the Aragon Ballroom in Chicago when they opened up for Stone Temple Pilots and The Butthole Surfers back in 1990 or 1991. The haven’t improved.

- Anything by P-Diddy, Diddy, Doo-Wah-Diddy-Diddy-Dum-Diddy- Do, Sean Combs…whatever he likes to call himself…overrated on every level.

- “Nevermind” was innovative. It started a trend, but others improved on it, most notably Alice In Chains and Soundgarden.

- Johnny Cash’s “Hurt Myself” was way overrated. Such drivel! Sorry, but country folks should stick to singing country, and leave the “alternative” stuff to the bands that actually fit that genre.

I’m sure I could think of a dozen more acts that are overrated, but I’m starting to depress myself thinking about how most of the music out now sucks.

“The Black Parade”: Concept album does not equal good concept or good music.

Anything by the White Stripes.

Anything by the Mars Volta (or their At The Drive In incarnation).

(Clearly I don’t know what good music is)

In Utero is one of my top 5 favorite albums, Nevermind is good, but not as good as In Utero

-Artic Monkees
-All the emo-stuff (fallout boy,mcr, you name them)
-Radiohead
-Bjork
-Ju stin Timberlake
-Madonna, she can’t sing THAT good
By the way, I totale DISAGREE with the ones who mentionned the White Stripes,BSSM-Red hot Chili Peppers,Apetite for destruction-Gn’R and Nevermind-Nirvana.

I somewhat agree………….yeah it was a catchy very radio friendly album and Kurt C sold an image of the isolated rocker that appealed to uninspired youths everywhere……….but was the music better than groups like Pearl jam…….Alice in Chains?……no way………also Cobain got real famous after he died………as almost all do……..if he was alive still his band would have died 7-8 years ago………they were intended for short term success………The Flaming Lips are a much more talented band……one of the best imo……….that have made it from generation to generation and continue to pump out quality CDs that they never compromise themselves as artists and do it their way…….you go Wayne!

don’t copy me. i hate that, i put up my list, so respect it. it’s my opinion assholes.

Kings of Leon–WTF is wrong with people?

Arctic Monkeys
John Mayer
Foo Fighters
Dave Matthews Band
Phish
Jack Johnson
Norah Jones

anything by -
the beatles
QUEEN
bob dylan
Police

the new kings of leon is garbage. hardly classic, but garbage.

I think the Doors in general are overrated, take your pick at one of their albums, they all suck.

But over all, Im gunna have to go with The Who. Most overrated band ever…and theyre still cranking out SH*T, only to be played in car commercials until the end of the apocalypse.

I’ll tell you who’s overrated…The Flaming Lips. Ugh.

coyne is over rated too!

Nevermind is a good album, but there were better “grunge era” albums (let alone numerous better rock albums)and better bands than Nirvana. Nirvana had some great songs (In Utero is a great album and better overall than Nevermind); but they are like the Beatles. Just because they were the first of their kind to make it big doesn’t mean they were the best.

Led Zeppelin – IV
Aerosmith – Toys In The Attic
Aerosmith – Big Ones
Echo Lawrence, I disagree with you on these albums but I DO agree with you on Greenday’s Dookie

haha j/k
but really -
amy winehouse & robin thick are dreadful in my book

Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. Very disappointing.

U2- All That You Can’t Leave Behind

It’s a good album with a couple of genuinely great songs, but I rarely ever listen to any of the songs after ‘Walk On.’ The last album ‘How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb’ was to me what everyone though ATYCLB was.

And yes. Nevermind is the most overrated album of all time. It’s an okay album, but it isn’t the best album of the 90’s. (I’m thinking more Downward Spiral.) Dark Side of the Moon is good but overrated, but The Wall is anything but overrated. ‘Nobody Home’ is a beautiful song and ‘Comfortably Numb’ can never be overplayed. I’ve tried it. It’s impossible.

Beck – Sea Change

Anything by Radiohead after “OK Computer”

Anything by The Shins (thanks Zack Braff)

“Exile on Main Street” by the Stones (what it really comes down to is this album is a cluttered mess)

Coldplay’s entire recorded output

Dave Matthews Band’s live albums

you’re all silly.

I think it’d be more fun to consider the most underrated albums of all time–like “In Utero,” “Kiko” by Los Lobos, #1 Record/Radio City” by Big Star–love my selections or hate ‘em, think of some of your own! It’s more productivity to pitch the negativity.

anything by the flaming lips. anyone remember tangerine? or yoshimi battles the pink robots? you’re not exactly changing the world either wayne. when you can usher in a new style of music thats actually good, then you can open your dumb mouth. go back to singing about blowing your nose in magazines and shut up.

any and all Guided By Voices recordings

any and all Guided By Voices recordings

Everything is overrated unless it’s your favorite. Then it’s underrated.

That out of the way, I think a lot of Dylan’s new material is overrated.

Sgt. Pepper is not the Beatles best, but its importance and influence is unfathomable. Anyone under 25 dissing it needs to sign up for rock history 101.

apparently echo lawrence has no sense of true rock n roll. i interrupted motorhead to listen to the flaming lips…….whoops on my part.

to me: The Dead and Radiohead and Coldplay are vastly overrated–so any album by them.

meh, saying nirvana is overated is so chic right now. they’re one of the few to live up to the hype critics bestow.
kurt killed hair metal and bitter special ed students have been pissed for 15+ years.

over 25 Jim, and I feel more than free to diss on Sgt. Pepper’s. It’s cultural relevance is duly noted, but its musical resonance just doesn’t hold up for me like better Beatles work.

Everything by the Flaming Lips is overrated

to Mr. Fist………..obviously Coyne’s intellectual level is way higher than yours……….you obviously do not understand the messages his music is making about environment….day to day life etc…..just because you are dumb that does not give you the right to go after what you will never understand……..go have people pull your fingers so you can fart……….it seems more your intellectual level….

Yes – Nirvana is way overated.

Accept the fact people – anything that has deceased over the years rules!

BTW I saw few negative comments about Metallica (and I’m a fan). Well they’re pretty much done I agree.

Any Doors album.

I would like to hear what some of you would put for underrated since some of your choices for overrated are completly ridiculous.

Face Farm is the most over-rated band ever!

Destroyer-Kiss. it’s an overproduced album, and it’s by a sucky band

Even if Wayne Coyne doesn’t like Kurt Cobain’s music, there’s no doubt that Coyne wishes his music had a watershed effect on music like Cobain did. No matter what he does, Coyne’s just riding Cobain’s coattails.

White Stripes. C’mon, even the FANS think there’s only 2 good songs on each cd. They suck.

Dark Side Of The Moon, Sgt. Peppers…overrated albums by bands that had much better albums (The Wall, Revolver).

I’ll agree with anything by Nirvana on this list. It’s decent, does not live up to the hype.

ANYTHING by Dylan. The man’s a lyrical genius, easily one of the best songwriters ever, and rocks the harmonica like no tomorrow, but for god’s sake who gave him a microphone. Proven by the fact that every cover of one of his songs is a million times better than his own version.

Anything that doesn’t mesh with my closed-minded standards. All those pieces of crap are way overrated.

Ten by Pearl Jam and mosty of the Doors catalogue

U2 are overreated, they are.

oh yeah, and anything by Dave Matthews Band. People! It’s elevator music! It’s not a strange coincidence that your mom and grandmother listen to these records too!

whether flaming lips’s ….uh i already forgot the name….like it or not nirvana’s influence can still b heard today. he’s as influential if not more than the beatles

gotta agree that Exile on Main Street is just not good compared to their other albums. It doesnt even make the top 5 of their albums

gotta agree that Exile on Main Street is just not good compared to their other albums. It doesnt even make the top 5 of their albums

whether flaming lips’s ….uh i already forgot the name….like it or not nirvana’s influence can still b heard today. he’s as influential if not more than the beatles

Anything by The Doors
Anything by The Grateful Dead
Nirvana Nevermind
Radiohead OK Computer (The Bends is one of the best albums ever.. this one, not so much)

Albums by Queen suck. Great singles,but their albums are filled with… well filler

Nirvana was the last best thing to happen to music…now all we got is teeny bop-pop…Nickelback sucks!!!! To the person who said that Bob Dylan is overrated…You suck you narrow minded cock-monkey!

Californication…RHCP

Weak , a stab at recreating everything you’d all ready heard.
The only thing that made it so sougt after was the 4 year wait.

actually, U2 really isn’t overrated. I’m not a huge fan, but they have a ton of singles, sell tons of records, and sell out all of there shows. Unlike many bands, they’ve become more popular in their later years. I think that they’ve earn a little respect whether you like the music or not.

You know who’s NOT overrated…..the Pixies.

Exile on main st-it is a mess
Srgt peppers-this is what happens when you believe in love and peace.
The Doors last few albums-Jim obviously was not a functioning alcoholic.
The clash-london calling….go cd but not the shrine to punk everyone thinks it is.
Chinese Democracy- is any album worth waiting 14 yrs???
By the way the Flaming Lips aren’t overrated, they just plain SUCK!!!

You know who’s NOT overrated…..the Pixies.

Nirvana is overrated. But then again so were most bands that came out of the 90’s. That’s not to say they didn’t have some good songs though.

to ad mowery if you are going to criticize something spell it right it is blood sugar sex magiK with a k. and i think it is a pretty good album not the best but it is not overrated.

Beck, Decembererists, Niko Case, Hold Steady, Justin Timberlake,John Mayer are the prime suspects for overratedness.

Here’s an idea! How ’bout you all shut the fuck up?

i think it’s cute the guardian chose to ask WAYNE COYNE of all people about who’s overrated. the flaming lips are a horrifically boring (and overrated)band. take away all the bubbles, space ships, and junior-high LSD bullshit, and you ain’t got much in the way of actual songwriting.

Ya Nirvana’s overrated ……………right. And the Flaming Lips are comparable to the Beatles. Gimme a break, that statement is just so ignorant it has ruined my day.

the artic monkeys, there good but every song is the same, alex turner cant sing.

Metallica. even there fans say they havent done a good album in almost 20 years

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot……….is a masterpiece………..to say otherwise is awful………anything by Metallica is horribly overrated………..serious how did a hair metal band even make it to discussion on these posts with legends………the sux so bad……..power chords and pointless lyrics……….where are Winger and Extreme?

Anything by RHCP

Appetite for destruction…….Sorry.

Appetite for destruction…….Sorry.

I thought that this was supposed to be most overrated albums.. not bands. This comment board is filled with such bs is amazing. Saying Pink Floyd, Hendrix are overrated is just dumb. Also people are just lumping types of music together. I’m shocked.

Two musical acts whose musical merits I’ve never been able to appreciate:

Smashing Pumpkins
R. Kelly

Two musical acts whose musical merits I’ve never been able to appreciate:

Smashing Pumpkins
R. Kelly

The Clash–London Calling. Combat Rock was a much better album. Bruce Springsteen’s The River and Born in the USA. I love the Boss, but those albums don’t even come close to Born to Run. The Beatles Let it Be was hyped beyond belief because it was their “last album” before the break up. It was just weak. Fleetwood Mac’s Tusk. If you were around when this album came out, then I don’t have to tell you.

What about Nickelback ???

Trailer rock.

…just do’nt get it.

U2’s All That You Can’t Leave Behind

Flaming Lips-Yoshimi(Soft Bulletin was better)
Led Zep-2 and 4(3 and Physical Graffiti were better)
Are You Experienced(Electric Ladyland was the best Hendrix)
The wall(ponderous and depressing, Dark Side all the way)
by the way people, you should limit your rants to albums that are actually highly regarded, nobody but a few Radiohead hardcores will tell you Kid A is great, let alone their best(that prize goes to the bends), and noone will argue that the first Boston album is all that great.
and yes, In Utero is in fact better than Nevermind, and despite the large # of covers, Unplugged is the best Nirvana album

I never understood the acclaim for Radiohead’s “OK Computer”. I never listened to the album and then one day, I read this rollingstone article and it’s this list of the greatest albums of the past 20 years or something like that and this album was either at the very top of the list or close to it. So, I go and buy the CD and the entire time I listened to the album, I kept scratching my head, waiting for something to happen. The album is weak.

… I just don’t get it.

TO-JIM-Right on .TASTE?-Some like DARK MEAT-Some-WHITE.A lot of people swear by RIPPLE?Myself-COGNAC.NIRVANA?- Nothing worst than a Talented JUNKIE.

yoshimi battles the pink robots – the flaming lips

Coyne is right. Nirvana is overrated. They were a good band, put out a couple of great records and created the soft-loud-soft template that every other crappy band (nickelback, staind, etc.) uses these days, but they were not the beatles. The White Stripes are better in my opinion. Also, every Radiohead album since The Bends is overrated.

The new Coldplay really sucks and everything thought it was the shit.

Every Metallica album after Justice is way overrated.

Who is the idiot that thinks OK computer is lame. It is a classic and really spawned a creative wave in music we still hear today.

the white stripes are without a doubt overrated. they’ve got some great songs, but i think critics were starving for some new darlings and they fit the bill.

Both Traveling Wilburys albums suck.

Born to Run and Born in the USA are so bad they hurt to listen to. (Darkness and The River are more listenable, but still not great…)

Anything by Coldplay or Radiohead. (I liked those bands when they were U2 and Pink Floyd.)

Dylan’s Modern Times. Oh my God, that album sucks!

Waynes just mad cause his latest album was just horrible. Def not iPod worthy!

American Idiot was overrated without a doubt

Wayne Coyne says honestly “such and such” is overrated (I agree with him), so here comes “such and such”’s fans with their revenge posts saying he’s overrated. That’s pretty mature.

In my opinion:

- all Coldplay (even though I still like em’)
- Grateful Dead “Workingman’s Dead”
- any Justin Timberlake (a professional mimic)
- “The Wall” – Pink Floyd
- Wolfmother” – Wolfmother

Who cares what’s overrated, it doesn’t suddenly make the album any less listenable just because lots of people think it’s the greatest. Nirvana Nevermind is overrated? Ok…but I’m sure most of us have listened through that album from beginning to end a thousand times…how many other cds can you say that to? In Utero was a superior album, but the fact more people are familar with Nevermind doesn’t make it any less of a great album.

The same goes for Ok Computer. The Bends was great, but it’s nice to see bands doing something new rather than doing the expected…

Smashing Pumpkins (any)
Pearl Jam (any)
Red Hot Chilli Peppers (post BSSM)
Janes Addiction (loved them then, does not hold up well at all any more)
Sonic Youth (any)

All very average, yet are treated like gods.

(Ok, Chilli Peppers had Mother’s Milk, that was a pretty great Cd at the time)

As for Nirvana, Nevermind holds up as well as the day it came out, in fact it gets better with age. Kurt was our generations John Lennon. The songs are great, the harmonies are very cool, they got everything right.

Appetite is the same way, GNR kick ass all the way through and there are no weak tracks.

Appetite For Destruction
Nevermind
The Bends

The classics of the last 20 IMO

lol…the black album is overrated? ya, i guess back in black and Zeppelin IV sucks too right?

Nevermind may be revered more than it deserves, but I still think it’s pretty damn good. But I never could bring myself to like listening to those jam bands like the Grateful Dead and Phish. And what’s up with the hating on Wilco’s Yankee Hotel Foxtrot??? I advise those people to go back and listen to it again, and pay close attention to the lyrics as well.

Nevermind may be revered more than it deserves, but I still think it’s pretty damn good. But I never could bring myself to like listening to those jam bands like the Grateful Dead and Phish. And what’s up with the hating on Wilco’s Yankee Hotel Foxtrot??? I advise those people to go back and listen to it again, and pay close attention to the lyrics as well.

THX-1138, Downward Spiral cannot even touch Nevermind. Trent’s music is so repetitive, and talk about a shitty voice. I rather listen to shinade o’ conner. Trent is a narcissistic idiot who makes crappy music and calls it art. At least Nirvana is listenable, unlike half the bands mentioned by retards that talk shit on Nirvana. Get off the band wagon, it’s getting old.

I really like Bruce, but I’ve always felt Born in the USA was vastly overrated. E-Street Shuffle, Born to Run, Darkness…, and The River define the genius of Bruce. Born in the USA…not so much.

Anybody that thinks Nirvana is overrated is, more or less, an idiot. There’s no two ways about it. The Flaming Lips completely blow in comparison.

It Doesn’t really matter that much. Nirvana is great, The Flaming are ok. Wayne is just looking for something to make him seem that much more important.

Nothing wrong with Nirvana. I think “Nevermind” is great no matter how many people turn on them. Same with Coldplay, who seemed to have the world collectively turn their backs on them because teenage girls joined in loving them. “Rush of Blood to the Head” is still my favorite album of all time, so sue me.

I like the Strokes, but the love affair with them and “Is This It” is too much. I put The Strokes, Green Day’s “American Idiot”,and RHCP’s “Stadium Arcadium” in the overrated category. Plus most political albums that get good reviews just cause they are political, when their music sucks (Linkin Park’s latest anyone? That was garbage.)

How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb-U2
The Rising-Bruce Springsteen
Love and Theft-Bob Dylan
Nirvana in general
Pink Floyd after Animals

The Wall by Pink Floyd has some good songs.But lets not be fooled, everything in the middle is filler except Comfortably Numb.
It would have been good if they picked 5 songs and made an ep. Just because it was popular doesn’t mean it’s great(somthing RS will never understand). The waal is a very tedious listen and very repetitive, Dark Side kicks it’s ass, and in my opinion overshadowed anything that pink ever did. Roger Waters should have incorperated the rest of the band like in the days of Dark Side. Roger Waters is a ego maniac.

Z from My Morning Jacket. I mean, ya, it was OK, but come on…..

d00d! that flaming lips guy is just jealous that his albums have not sold nearly as many copies as the late great Nirvana

Its amazing that those who weren’t around during that time can say that Nevermind is overrated. You can still here some of Nirvana’s “music” in the bands around today. Overrated, and yet still prevalent?…Give me a break. Flaming who?

Its amazing that those who weren’t around during that time can say that Nevermind is overrated. You can still here some of Nirvana’s “music” in the bands around today. Overrated, and yet still prevalent?…Give me a break. Flaming who?

U2 – All That you can’t Leave Behind

RHCP – Staduim Arcadium

Foo Fighters – The Colour and the Shape

Coldplay – X & Y

Metalica – Load (of shit)

Nevermind of course, the Nickleback comparison was quite accurate, same with Seether and other such Post-Grunge bands

Anything by U2

Springsteen- Born In The USA

Most of The Beatles albums

Gnarls Barkley

If it is so overrated then why are we debating over it? Who cares what this guy says anyway. The Flaming Lips are ok, but did they change music history with one album? Some may say that Nirvana was there at the right time. I think they had the right album at the right time. Nevermind was brilliant becuase it was different yet it was catchy. It had passion that was unmatched by any mainstream music at the time.

Hey Dumbasses,
Wayne Coyne never bashed Nirvana. He stated the obvious. That is, Nevermind was blown into some monster by 13-17 year olds who thought they ‘discovered’ something. Fact is they joined the party late and aided in their hero’s demise. Kids of Boomers, what do you expect?
Bleach was pure, Nevermind was OK, and In Utero was the FU to the lame-o fair weather fans.
Don’t get pissed at Coyne! Look in the mirror johnny come lately!

U2 – All that you can’t leave behind.

It’s not bad… but it was not their third coming as every critic said at the time.

Also, that song ont their last time about Bono’s father -Sometimes you can’t make it on your own-. I’m sorry, but the lyrics do not compare to his 80’s or 90’s stuff.

Bono’s lyrics are decaying with time.. they don’t match Edge’s anthemic sound anymore.

Anything by Jimi Hendrix or Janis Joplin.

It’s probably sacrilege to say this on the message board of a publication founded with the express purpose of sucking the guy off, but Bob Dylan’s “Blood on the Tracks” is a steaming crap-sicle. Dylan couldn’t sing in key if you put a gun to his head. Great songwriter, but Tiny Tim’s albums are more listenable.

Bright Eye’s – I’m Wide Awake It’s Morning

Mega Overrated…..stop looking for the next big thing – let it come to us….media ruins everything. You can’t predict a Rock and Roll revolution….they happen – and for a good reason. Sit back, enjoy the ride and when it happens – you’ll know.

ANYTHING by Bob Dylan
ANYTHING by The Grateful Dead.
ANYTHING by David Bowie
All 3 are vastly overrated.

Pearl Jam-Ten
All the Green Day are overrated
U2 is good but…

but give Nirvana-Nevermind a break this was only their second album,In utero is better but not that much.I can only imagine what Cobain did if he didn’t commit suicide

You all need to do more drugs!!!!!!!!!!!

as much as i love Nirvana, “In Utero” was amazing, but they ARE kind of over-rated. People I know like to disagree, but they don’t even listen to their music. “In Utero” had 2 strong flaws: “Scentless Apprentice” and “tourette’s,” which means the album is NOT perfect. Would they STILL be the so-called “Greatest Band of All Time” is he never died?

…if Cobain wasn’t dead, he’d probably be the frontman of a Wesley Willis cover band today. If not for real suicide, career suicide was item #2 on “Cobain’s Honeydew List.”

anything by the crap band Nickelback

most of rage against the machine there stuff was overrated. i think tom morello is an overrated guitarist too. they had some decent songs but the shit was way to political

Most overrated bands ever:

Pearl Jam- “Eddie Vedder is the grunge era michael bolton” – Trey Parker

Coheed and Cambria- Why does everyone under 20 care about them so god damn much? His voice is awful. Two things just should not mix: Rush and Jawbreaker.

U2-1, 2, 3, 14…

Pantera- I read a publication (could’ve been Revolver) calling them the best metal band of the 90s… i really didn’t know metal talent in the 90s was that scarce.
Oh granted, they’re better than Cinderella and most metal… but seriously best of the 90s?

Now ok, anything that’s called “The Best of X Era” is bound to be overrated. But i’m sorry… i can’t think of anything THAT WAS POPULAR that outdid Nirvana. Soundgarden? A few sogns. Pearl Jam? You know how I feel. Alice in Chains? idk id take Live in NY over their unplugged record.

But I absolutely resist anyone who calls Nirvana intelligent (the same way i resist the same sentiment out of anyone arguing the same for the White Stripes, Zeppelin, or AC/DC). He seemed intelligent bc he was the only musical figure of his time to admit he wasn’t on “Dumb”.

I’ll go with Nirvana being overrated, they are very often misinterpretted. They more to do with Sonic Youth and the Meat Puppets than Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, or Alice in Chains. I think that spawns the argument in question.

Nevermind cannot be considered overrated in any kind of way.

I’d say of anything certifiably classic… I’d say I genuinely hate Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours… there’s just no way thats the best pop album of the 1970s… christ.

Synchronicity by The Police. A few classic tracks (Every Breath, King Of Pain etc), some OK tracks by Sting (O My God, Synchronicity) and some turgid filler (as usual on a Police album) by Andy and Stewart.

well,i’m afraid i got to agree with that guy from Flaming Lips
The album AND THE BAND are not best …there’s so much better and more melodic grunge bands than nirvana…and my god.,.Nevermind wasn’t even there best album.Those teenagers from the 90’s just heard some revolutionary song (for them of course)and it was Smells Like Teen Spirit and gosh its nice but it isn’t legendary ,plz Nirvana
is NOTHING SPECIAL .They just got lucky.I wish better bands of that time like:
Faith No More
Soundgarden
Pearl Jam
Smashing Pumpkins
Alice In Chains.
Got more hype ,cuz if they did Nirvana would be a **** ,belive me a **** band.

Are Nirvana fans capable of reading interpretation, and not just reading words? Wayne Coyne doesn’t like Nirvana’s Nevermind for precisely the same reason “Back In The Day” cites it: Too many bands since then sound like it, with the angst-ridden vocals and soft-loud-soft modality (hell, even Flaming Lips did it with “A Spoonful Weighs A Ton”!). Wayne Coyne goes on to say he prefers “Bleach” or “In Utero”. As A Nirvana fan myself, I agree with him. “Nevermind” “Sgt Pepper”, OK Computer”, and MJ’s “Thriller” are all overrated precisely because they become touchstoneS for a period in time. Future generations can’t know how influential these albums were within the context of the times they were created. They’ll only know if these albums still retain their vitality within the present time. “Nevermind” was a Godsend when it came out for those of us who couldn’t stand the music at that time. It was a radio friendly new rock sound like nothing else. That sound has been co-opted by so many bands since then,it is impossible to convey to someone who didn’t experience it first-hand what a jolt “Teen Spirit” was. Just like “Sgt Pepper” with it’s overblown studio production, full color gatefold, inserts, and printed lyrics that were so mindblowing then is taken for granted today because that stuff has already now been done by others. It doesn’t matter that it was the first. It only matters if it still holds up.

I hardly think David Bowie is overrated. Here’s an artist who paved the way for most of your alternative rock genres and to be honest, he’s kinda underrated in America. I understand he’s a god in Britain. I was talking to a dumbass kid the other day who had never even heard of him. It scared and made me sad simultaneously.

Back to Nevermind, I genuinely respect what Kurt Cobain did by ALMOST single-handedly killing off the 80s. I say ALMOST because

A. Bands like Jane’s Addiction, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, etc helped.

B. Any great artist from the 80’s managed to survive. (Depeche Mode, The Cure, R.E.M., U2, and so on)

First off Marty P is a Fricking MORON!!!! for saying that Dylan is overated the man is The greatest artist of any generation! Van Halen is the most overated band ever.Eddie is such a pompous ass its laughable.

Eric Clapton is one of the most overrated guitarists/musicians/songwrite rs/singers Ever. I can not understand why his career is so revered. Boring, soulless single not solos, singing that sounds like your dad’s best buddy, awkward songwriting with bad bombastic riffs (not to diss on bombastic riffs).

Saying people like Nirvana, The Beatles, & Bob Dylan are overrated is the same as saying Water is the most overrated liquid. Give me a fucking break

U2 “How to dismantle an atomic bomb”

i liked “beautiful day” but the unbelievable popularity of the rest of the album and singles boggles my mind! i’ll never understand why the public lapped it up

C O L D P L A Y
…sucks

Kings of Leon and the Yonder Mountain String Band suck like Paris Hilton on a first date!

Coldplay and The Decemberists are overated. The mellow alt stuff is boring. Exile on main street and The Wall are great.

Nevermind is a great album but I think it’s cultural significance may have overshadowed the songs themselves. People remember Nirvana for what they did to music, for better or worse, and not necessarily Kurt Cobain’s lyrics or melodies. I agree with Wayne that it probably aided a “navel-gazing” trend that’s so common today.
Red Hot Chili Peppers: Excellent musicians, Anthony Keidis’ vocal melodies can be brilliant, but the lyrics are just absurd. I just don’t get it. Most of the time I can’t get past “double chins and bowling pins”-type-lines to appreciate what they’re doing.

A lot of critics love System of a Down, and while what they’re doing is somewhat interesting, it’s another case of a blurred line between absurdism and just being dumb. And “Lonely Day” is a crappy Nickelback song, even by Nickelback standards.

Anything with Rick Rubin involved is a little overrated too. I think he can bring some great music out of people, but he just leaves it there. He adds no color or depth, and everything sounds like it should before a producer comes in.

Most Overated Album Ever: GNR Chinese Democracy

Overrated.
ELVIS – if he had a broken nose and nasty teeth, nowheresville
Johnny Cash is so much more talented but hey he is smaller fatter and not as good looking.
ROBBIE WILLIAMS – maybe not in the U.S but in the uk he is veiwed as George Michael,Liam Gallagher and Kurt Cobain rolled into one! Cant play,write or preform anything of his own.
ALL HAIR METAL,SOFT ROCK and JAMES BLUNT!!

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot – Wilco

Wilco: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
I heard nothing but love for this, so I bought it. I quickly realized why they had trouble getting it released.

The Sex Pistols: Never Mind The Bollocks…
I’ve got plenty of albums of loud music with guys screaming their heads off. But Johnny’s just annoying.

The Who: Quadrophenia
Could’ve been a great album if it’d been a *single* album.

Bruce Springsteen: The River
Same problem as Quadrophenia.

The Stones: Exile On Main St.
It’s not a bad album. It’s even a *good* album. But it sure as hell doesn’t deserve all the props it’s gotten over the years.

Bob Dylan: Modern Times
Ditto what I said about Exile. Modern Times is decent, but in no way is a continuation of the brilliance seen on Time Out Of Mind and (especially) Love and Theft.

And as others have said: pay attention to the article, people. This is overrated *albums.* Not bands.

Didn’t Coyne insult Dylan’s music not too long ago. Now Nirvana? If only his talent matched his audacity. Next he’ll give his reasons why Lincoln was an overrated president. Oh, but he’s so provacative!

I think “Christmas Songs” by Raffi was overrated…..

All I got out of all these comments are that every musican that got any type of praise for their album is overrated.

Wow, this all sounds just like a book I read called Kill Your Idols, that had current music journalists spouting off on “classic” albums they didn’t think were so great. Funny think is, most of them were responding to reviews published in…wait for it…Rolling Stone.

@chester Alan Arthur

You said the “cultural significance may have overshadowed the songs”

And why does Nevermind had a cultural significance? Caus of the songs.

…and yes people remember Kurt Cobain’s lyrics and melodies.

Huge Beatles fan, but I’ll list two beatle-related albums that get overrated often:
1) Abbey Road–decent album, but far far far from their best. It’s best moments “Come Together”, “Mean Mr. Mustard/Polythene Pam/She Came in Through…”, “You Never Give me Your Money”, “Oh Darling”, “I want you” and the 2 Harrisongs are great, but the rest is either complete drivel (Octopus… and Maxwell…and Carry that weight, etc” or just not up to the Beatles standards “Sun King”, “tHE End”, etc. A 4 star album by the Beatles hailed as if it’s their career peak, when I think it’s one of their weakest–but still good in the eyes of many bands.

2) Paul McCartney’s Band on the Run. This one’s loaded with filler “Helen Wheels”, “Bluebird”, Picasso’s Last Words”, “Mrs. Vandebilt”…..it has one forgotten gem “Mamonia”, and it’s big hits are ok, but outside of “Jet” nothing’s stellar. It’s a 3 star record with the praise of a 5 star record.

Other overrated albums:
1) Nirvana’s Nevermind—a good record but it is not even Nirvana’s best (In Utero) in my book.

2) Captain Beefheart’s Trout Mask Replica. I like Safe as Milk quite a bit, but I’ve never understood this record and I’ve tried again and again over the years (for whatever reason–maybe because I bought it). I’d give it oh a 1 star on a good day, but most days a 0.5 star review.

3) Zen Arcade-Husker Du…just not my kind of music maybe, but I don’t understand the fuss, sounds like every other record out there.

4) New York Dolls-New York Dolls. This might be one of those had to be there records, but outside of Personality Crisis, it’s garbage.

5) Rolling Stones’ Exile on Main Street….this is hailed as their best and is merely decent, a far cry from their peak (Beggar’s Banquet). I think this actually is one of their weaker ones of the classic stones era (66-72).

6) The Who-Quadrophenia….it seemed everyone hated this record 10 years ago, now everyone wants to act as if it’s better than Tommy and among their best works ever…it’s in fact a bloated overproduced (and horribly tinnily produced ruining Entwistle’s bass sound) record full of overly pretentious Pete Townshendisms with much less humour of Tommy. I’d give this a weak 3, let it stay in the 70’s and check out itunes for the 4-5 good/great songs.

7) Flaming Lips’ Yoshimi battles the Pink Robots. I loved the Lips of Clouds Taste and Soft Bulletin and was very pumped when this one came out (especially after Uncut said it was the best record released in their 5-6 yr at the time lifetime and one of the greatest records ever). THe album has 4-5 tremendous songs, but the rest of the album is awful and a big step down from the brilliance of their three previous records (Soft, Zaireeka and Clouds). At War is a bit of a leftover too with a few good songs, but even less great songs (although it too has less bad songs so I’d say those two records are equals). I’d give Yoshimi about 3 stars.

All that you can’t leave behind by U2. I agree it was time for U2 to try something new, but after all the years of them experimenting it was surprising to see them go for dull the way they did on this record. 3-4 good songs and the rest is as bland as music gets….still it sold a ton of records….I was close to adding Boy here as well, why that’s a 4 star album is beyond me, it’s got 1 classic, and 3 good songs and the rest is pretty weak, that track record sounds like a post Muswell Hilbillies Kinks record, except Boy gets a lot of praise whereas the Kinks get nothing.

And that’s my 10 most overrated lps. I’m sure I missed a thousand more.

The Flaming Lips have always sucked (HOW MANY DAMN TIMES CAN YOU SEE A GUY WALK AROUND A CROWD IN A BUBBLE AND BE AMUSED? EVEN STONERS ARE BORED OF IT!), but I digress.

U2- The Last Two Albums both sucked hardcore

Nickleback- God I hate them…Hard to believe the White Stripes’ albums combined have sold less than 3/4 off all of Nickleback’s albums.

Some overrated bands in general…
Aerosmith
THE ARCADE FIRE (I tried I swear but I just couldn’t get into it)
and well this article makes me too pissed to say more…

To tell you the truth, I agree in some ways that Nevermind is overrated, but hear me out. I think that album is amazing and yet perfect, but there are more albums out there better. To me it seems Kurt Cobain writes the same tune over and over again. Is it a five star album? Yea. Do I put it on every week? Hardly. The albums to me feels like he is mentally ill and sick of everything, but his lyrics hardly make sense half the tine, but the tunes are memorable. Something In the Way is definitely about Courtney Love and is using George Harrison’s “Something” (a ballad) and reversing it. I know it sounds crazy but its true. The cover is clever, the music is pricless, but I rather put “The Wall” on if I want to be depresssed.

Back on who I think is overrated are definitely Bon Jovi, Nickleback, Green Day (sometimes, Dookie was good), Prince gets too much credit, and Michael Jackson is just horrible. How can that album be in the top twenty albums of all time by ROLLING STONE. That is the worst album I have ever heard. I believe there are a lot of crap bands that we give too much credit too, The Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, etc. I can’t stand it. I’m only 15 and I already can’t stand music nowadays. Anyone who says Bob Dylan is overrated is a moron, because by far he is the greatest solo artist and inspired basically everything in rock n’ roll, plus has like 10 perfect albums.

These are some albums I find overrated, but I think are great:
“London Calling”-The Clash
“Exile on Main Street-Rolling Stones
“Never Mind the Bollacks”-Sex Pistols
“Trout Mask Replica”-Capt. Beefheart
“White Light/White Heat”-Velvet Underground
I also believe crtics should have been harder on Bob Marley because it seems like he writes the same song, but I could be wrong. I’m not saying he sucks, he’s great, except I think he could have did more with the reggae sound he created.

Here are some albums that are underrated:
“Odyssey and the Oracle”-The Zombies
“Forever Changes”-Love
“Days of Future Passed”-Moody Blues
“The Final Cut”-Pink Floyd
“Safe as Milk”-Capt. Beefheart
“Hot Rats”-Frank Zappa
“Their Satanic Majesties Request”-The Rolling Stones
“Book of Dreams”-Steve Miller
“Waiting for the Sun”-The Doors
Anything by They Might Be Giants

Thanks for Reading.

Anything Radiohead made after OK Computer (these guys could put out an album full of morse code and the critics would still go nuts)

Beck (his stuff is cool but not that great)

Same goes for:
Tupac
Arcade Fire
the Decemberists
TV on the Radio
every other experimental college radio band that’s anointed as a savior of rock.

Also, Che Guevara. Way overrated. Oddly enough communism actually sucks.

Never Mind The Bollocks- Sex Pistols.
They were punk poseurs from the start with no talent. Everything The Clash ever did during that era runs laps around anything the Pistols accomplished.
And to the idiot who thinks Combat Rock is better than London Calling: that is perhaps the most ludicrous statement I’ve ever heard. It’s like saying Let It Be is miles above Rubber Soul.

All that you can’t Leave Behind – U2
X&Y – Coldplay
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot- Wilco

I bought these albums but never listen to them.

There is no way that Appetite for destruction is overrated…it is perfect. Just because Nevermind isn’t perfect doesn’t mean that it is overrated. Nevermind changed the music landscape. The album was a successful break thru for that band and it’s fans.

Droveplane’s credibility flew right out the window when he said the smashing pumpkins were better.
Corgan couldn’t write in utero if it sat on his face, as goes the same for the rest of your generic PJ AIC SG list. If those bands were so great than Nirvana wouldn’t be as big as they were and they would have all shared the spotlight. And let’s all be honest, Nirvana was the biggest band around back then, whether you admit it or not. I’ll agree that Kurt became one of rock’s beloved when he died, but let’s remember his powerful carisma that he did have in life. You can’t deny that. Eddie and Layne just weren’t that interesting and they had to many qualities of hair metal, the were the emo metal of the day.

Wayne is dead on. Think about it. Nirvana is known, at least by most people, for one song. There are two other songs from that album that still get regular airplay on rock stations. In Utero has been completely forgotten-like it never happened. So we have a band that is known for one album being put in the same category as Springsteen, Dylan and the Beatles. In hindsight Nirvana is more or less in the same Category as Hootie and the Blowfish-a band that for a brief moment in time was huge that had little or no positive influence on current music.

If anyone was really over rated it Bob Dylan,and the Rolling Stones, sure they got good stuff but not the greatest, I think the Beatles are a little to over rated to I like but I mean come on theres some better stuff, and all this new emo stuff is crap, it leaves me wondering if music is on the verge of dying cuz if record companies are putting out this music then they’re stupid, o and Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and especially Led Zeppelin are NOT over rated what are you people thinking seriously

zepellin IV was one of the greatest albums of all time moron

RICK RUBIN is overratred. He just strips a band down until they sound like crap then records it.
I’m surprised that Rubin didn’t record ST ANGER…it sure sounded like his kind of crap.Can’t wait for the new mETALLICA WITH RUBIN ON BOARD. Someone tell that peace lovin’ hippy to kiss my Ass.

“All That You Can’t Leave Behind” by U2. Good album, but definitely not the mega-overrated supposed “return to form” masterpiece that all “Pop”-bashing critics wanted us to believe.

The Dude said “So we have a band that is known for one album being put in the same category as Springsteen, Dylan and the Beatles. In hindsight Nirvana is more or less in the same Category as Hootie and the Blowfish-a band that for a brief moment in time was huge that had little or no positive influence on current music.”
If that stupid shit you said was true, don’t you think that that’s how it would be.God, how stupid could you be. In Utero, forgotten…? come on. The main topic was nevermind, that’s why people are talking about nevermind, notice no one talks shit on in utero

“Beautiful Day” was on “All That You Can’t Leave Behind” not “HTDAAB”. Why you would want to comment on cd you know so little about I have no idea.

whoever says nirvana is overated did NOT get what they really did.

I think Jaypea is right on. Most of these posts are so f***ing stupid. I cannot believe some of the albums/artist people have put on here.

and another thing…
Nirvana didn’t kill hair bands.
MTV and the record labels killed hair metal because they wanted to promote rock that attracted more women and affluent men. Then when ratings tanked in the mid 90s they went to hardcore pop and grunge lite like Hinder.

Nirvana killed alternative rock-they made it mainsteam music for frat boys and meatheads. If there was no Nirvana there would be no Nickleback-Something to think about kiddies.

Kiss is overrated garbage!!!

anything by the white stripes (who I’m going to see in july), radiohead (who i saw several years ago) is overrated. These bands, when they are getting ready to release an album, is immediately labeled as genius by critics. how is this possible? dont you have to listen to the album first before it gets labeled as good?! it’s not the artists’ fault if they are overrated, all they are trying to do is make the best music that they can do. it’s the critics fault! radiohead are the 21st century pink floyd, but they’ll never sell as many records cause they actually LIKE one another!

To rockstar70:
How is Rick Rubin overrated? He produced Run DMC, The Beastie Boys, System of a Down, Johnny Cash, RHCP, Jay Z, Linkin Park, LL Cool J, Public Enemy, Aerosmith, Slayer, Danzig, Tom Petty, The Dixie Chicks, U2, Justin Timberlake, Metallica, ACDC, Neil Diamond, Rage Against the Machine, Audioslave, The Cult, The Smashing Pumpkins, Wu-Tang, American Head Charge, Slipknot, Limp Bizkit, Weezer, Shakira and thats not even all of it. I’m not saying I like all of these bands but if Rick is overrated how did he manage to get all these bands to work with him.

What people have to remember about
Nevermind, is that when it came
out there was nothing else like
it. As opposed to everything that
the Flaming Lips has ever done.
Yoshimi battles the pink robots.
Pretty f***ing overrated.

Stadium Arcadium – RHCP
most Nine Inch Nails albums.
most Beatles and Nirvana albums. (I appreciate and respect what they did for music, but I’ve heard much better.)
Justin Timberlake’s music.
Aerosmith and Bon Jovi.

Most under-rated albums:

any T00L album.
Days of the New (1st CD).
any Deftones album.
U2 -Achtung Baby (their best album)
any Incubus album.
Alice in Chains.
Pete Yorn.
Placebo
A Perfect Circle
The Distillers – Coral Fang
Green Day – Warning
Alkaline Trio – Crimson
…the list goes on and on.

All Beatles albums except maybe Beatles ‘65.

Nevermind, for sure. I wish more people had bough In Utero.

Any Tool album. Dumbest, most annoying fans ever.

Anything teenagers consider canon, i.i. Alternative Press bands, etc.

Tomahawk, Peeping Tom, the Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, etc etc.

This magazine has failed for 3o years anyway. Even Spin is shit.

Am I wong? When was the last time you heard Heart Shaped Box or All Apologies(the only “Hit” songs on In Utero) on the radio? Not very often. As time goes by they are played less and less. Check album sales-In utero sells squadoosh. Now that those songs are available on greatest hits comps nobody is buying that album.

Much respect to Mr. Coyn, but without Nirvana NO ROCK AND ROLL BAND ON A NON-MAJOR LABEL before 1991 would be on one today, and that includes. Bold statement- Nirvana is the only reason anyone on this board has heard of Flaming Lips. Shoot me.

yeah, because we should take anything the dude from flaminf lips says seriously. Nirvana affected more people, changed the industry and killed (albeit temporarily) shitty pop music in just 3 short years. the Flaming Lips have been around for 15, not affected anyone or anything. She Don’t Use Jelly and a mountain of crap with Bunny suits is all they have to show.

He’s probably bitter that he came out in the same time frame and was widely ignored.

Comparing Nevermind to a Nickelback album shows that this guy is out of his gord. Nickelback makes shameless, shitty, corny rock radio freindly junk. Nirvana made honest, rocking, melodic, passionate and life changing music.

get out of here with that shit!

To claim that “In Utero” has been, as foolishly claimed by The Dude, ‘all but forgotten’ is plainly ridiculous. What true rock fan has forgotten that record? One could argue as to it’s merits when contrasted w/ “Nevermind”, but it surely remains a touchstone of the 90’s. And assuming that the meticulously researched claim that most people only know one Nirvana track is accurate, one can only respond by saying “So what!”. Most people, as many of these posts can attest, are completely, most unfortunately, lost when it comes to recognizing great music.

I think one major reason that Nirvana and many other artists are overrated is that someone died. Look at artist like, Hendrix, Joplin, and Cobain their careers were cut short. Then look at artist like AC/DC, Aerosmith, and the Stones people say they should give it up. I think we want artists to be around for a short amount of time. If Cobain had made a couple of bad records would people still hail him as a genius?

People also forget that the grunge/alt movement didn’t last that long either.

I also think rap is overrated.

Just look at what Nirvana did to music in what little time they were together and you can’t really tell yourself they are over-rated. They wiped most of the music from the decade before them off the map. The songs are so simple yet so great and beautiful. The songs communicate to the listener even more now that Cobain is gone.

oh and “the Dude” a good theory, but I have to disagree. the major labels had no clue Nirvana was going to change things the way they did. MTV is more responsible for killing hair bands. those idiot old white men working at those labels actually thought Nirvana was one of those bands. and they had no clue that Nirvana would attract Women because none of Kurt’s views were known by anyone until he started getting interviewed on….MTV.

record labels are ALWAYS out of touch. that’s why we continue to get bands like Hinder and Nickelback.

anything by tom waits. i just dont get it.. gwad it sucks.. it just plain sucks

When I think Nickleback, I think “monotony.” And it’s not like I want to hear their songs, I just can’t escape them – its like their label keeps forcing them over every radio station in America. The singer has barely a one-octave range, they’ve kept the same look forever, and the musicianship needs much more variety. Imagine the Beach Boys recording “Surfin’ Safari” over, and over, and over… Nirvana embodied a major evolution in music – a fusion of punk with hard rock – and solid musicianship. Not my favorite band, but definitely better than NB.

an interesting question. i think nirvana was kinda deified because of cobain’s suicide. they (along with Green Day , sonic youth and others)certainly changed the music world. but it is sad that they burnt out so fast. the real musicians stick around. the fact that nirvana was so successul speeks more than their musical talent. Plus it’s funny to see RS so in love with them when they only gave them like 3 stars for nevermind!

maye bob dylan is overrated as a musician (he was more of a poet)

an interesting question. i think nirvana was kinda deified because of cobain’s suicide. they (along with Green Day , sonic youth and others)certainly changed the music world. but it is sad that they burnt out so fast. the real musicians stick around. the fact that nirvana was so successul speeks more than their musical talent. Plus it’s funny to see RS so in love with them when they only gave them like 3 stars for nevermind!

maye bob dylan is overrated as a musician (he was more of a poet)

nirvana just never had time to get bad

Does anyone else think that its laughable that Wayne Coyne thinks Nirvana is overrated? Coming from the most overrated band of all-time (next to the Arcade Fire, ofcourse) the Flaming Lips will be remembered for a song that appeared on the soundtrack on Beverly Hills 90201. The Flaming Lips don’t deserve to be mentionned in the same breath as Nirvana. How many stupid props does a band need to entertain these days. Wayne Coyne might be the single most ignorant moron around.

MTV and record labels are one and the same(when MTV played videos. MTV doesn’t play anything the labels don’t want them to play-which is why MTV kept playing bands like Firehouse and Bon Jovi-record labels made them. And it’s not a theory-MTV stoppped letting people vote for hair bands even though many of those bands were still popular. It was a marketing decision-all about selling Stridex Pads and make up to affluent teens. That was the beginning of the “appeal to everyone” MTV we have today.

Mr. Coyne’s comments seem somewhat ungracious when you also consider that his band benefited big time from the alternative-tsunami generated by Nirvana (w/ help, of course, from numerous others, such as Pearl Jam, AIC, Soundgarden, etc.)In fact, would “She Don’t Use Jelly”, the song which arguably brought the Flaming Lips to most people’s attention, have even dented radio (and, most notably, MTV) without Nirvana’s assisstance in clearing the way for such bands?? And, speaking of overrated… Give “Jelly” another listen now and try, desperately, to recall just why, exactly, you liked that song when you were younger.

Sgt. Peppers

I just dont get why everyone likes it so much….It makes my ears bleed.

gotta go with KISS — You pick the album

i agree with whoever said dylan’s blood on tracks. never got it, and i love dylan.
the strokes, is this it. —seems a lot of people are coming around to this viewpoint.
i find the bulk of REMs work since 1990 to be really boring–save for occasional single. i even like Green, but since then they just haven’t done anything for me.
by the way, the level of verbal abuse on this site is getting to me. these are opinion questions, no right answers. plus, it’s only rock and roll. save your venom for the bush admin.

Anyone else agree that “Splinter” by the Offspring or “Load” by Metallica were damn good albums and didn’t get nearly enough respect?!?

I like every single song on Nevermind

Lithium, Teen Spirit, Polly, Drain You, Lounge Act, On a Plan, Somethings in the Way, Breed, and Come As You Are. Thats more than half the album right there, and too me those are hits.

Flaming lips I don’t like. I care not for the opinions of one man, who plays in a band I have no interest in.

Wow. A whole lotta angry posts that totally missed the point of the actual list. Overrated ALBUMS. Not artists… The Beach Boys made some great music. So did Nirvana. But both bands recorded a lousy album.
I think there are far too many people nowadays who listen to songs, and forget that artists release albums. An album can contain a few good tracks, and still suck as a whole. This is what the list is trying to illustrate.
No one is saying that Nirvana DIDN’T influence music in the 90s… just that as an album, Nevermind kinda sucked. Quit taking some bizarre personal offense to that statement. You can still love Nirvana. Hell, you can still go batshit insane and think that Kurt died for your sins… Nevermind can still be a lousy album… it’s ok…

The Flaming who?? What a hater.

I partially agree about “Nevermind”, and Nirvana for that matter. While I do think Nirvana was a powerful and important band, it was neither iconic nor revered until Kurt Kobain’s untimely death. “Ten” by Pearl Jam was a far more ambitious effort than “Nevermind”, and actually came out before “Nevermind”, which probably did more to make grunge mainstream, than Nirvana ever would. I remember “Jeremy” leaving a much larger cultural impact than “Smells Like Teen Spirit.” But it seems a bit of revisionist history is at work in the minds of the music media and pop-culture pundits. I’m convinced that had Kurt Kobain never killed himself, “Nevermind” would simply be one of a number of great grunge albums to come out during the 1990’s, but not THE best album of the 90’s, and definitely not one of the best in music history.

Yeah, Lazurus, I’d agree that “Load” is slightly underrated. But when you look back at the time of it’s release, Metallica were truly in a no-win situation, save from releasing Puppet’s II or something. I often felt that had Load been released by any other band than Metallica, it’s reception would have been much warmer.

What’s with all these Nirvana fans getting their panties in a twist? Learn to read and you’ll se Coyne doesn’t say, “Nirvana suxxorz,” merely that Nevermind is overrated, created a backlash of crappy music and isn’t even the band’s best record, (that goes to In Utero).

overrated: Jack Johnson – AND he’s singing to your kids

also: Dave Matthews Band

Ive seen Pete Yorn in concert and all that I heard was bland. Sgt Peppers changed music recording forever and even impressed the likes of Hendrix who paid tribute to the song itself when it was just 10 days old, Pink Floyd loved what they were hearing as they were recording next to them as the album was being made! Somebody should put down the crack pipe!

That guy from Flaming Lips is an idiot… have we ever heard a truly great, transcendant, cathartic song ( just one! ) from his band? I don’t think so.

Plus, saying things like “Nirvana is overrated” is just plain stupid. And I’m not saying this just because I love them, but because it’s obvious that different types of music will touch different people in different ways.. some bands touch certain people in ways that are truly magical, and some other people just won’t be that moved by it, but going around making objective-sounding statements?? …it’s like I don’t go around saying “the F.L. sound like the fart of a whale”, or whatever. One should be intelligent about this kind of thing, especially a musician, when it comes to critiquing others… it’s such a delicate, heart-warming thing, music. You can’t be such a bleak idiot, it hurts others.

But what truly dislplays the guy’s idiocy is placing Nirvana and Nickelback on the same page…. I’m mean, let’s be frank now, Nickelback is this big overblown, garish, senseless pop act, that uses wanna-be grunge-like decor to seem more masculine ( or “manly”, if you wish ), because that guy from NB doesn’t want people to think he’s a big wuss when he calculatively writes his corny top40 palatables, so he tries to cover it up ( with overblown production, vocal manipulation and lifeless fuss. ) And when the hell did Nirvana ever care about anything besides writing good music, which they did??? it wasn’t a game of “I suck, so I’m gonna try to cover it up”, it was no game… it was: “this is me, and this is what all you MFs get!” I mean, we’re talking about two completely different bands coming from two totally different places ( spheres ) with the most opposite of intentions and talents and intelligence and heart.

Who’s overrated? I personally thing bands like Depeche Mode and the Cure were/are overrated ( as are most goth bands from the 80’s, basically ), but that doesn’t mean that they suck, or that they didn’t have good songs, it’s just that in proportion I think they didn’t offer all that much that was good…. although I must say I think DM’s “Ultra” is a masterpiece! Check it out, peoples!!!!

Lump-Lump

Pearl Jam was more popular when Kurt Cobain was alive. It wasnt until his death that Nirvana surpassed Pearl Jam in popularity. If Kurt was still alive Nirvana wouldnt matter.

You are all overrated and I am underrated.

Aren’t we all forgetting the topic here? Most overrated ALBUM???

Lenny Kravitz – Are You Gunna Go My Way

Also, I think your Mom’s are all overrated.

Even though Nevermind changed my life musically at the time am a little with Wayne Coyne on this one. I listened to it very recently and I don’t think it has stood the test of time to well. In Utero is the one for me.
As for the most overrated band/album… Radiohead – OK Computer.
Middle Class sh*te.

yenrac and echo lawrence are like the simon cowell of music critics.
Time to take a music lesson jack ass

Even though Nevermind changed my life musically at the time am a little with Wayne Coyne on this one. I listened to it very recently and I don’t think it has stood the test of time to well. In Utero is the one for me.
As for the most overrated band/album… Radiohead – OK Computer.

Tom Petty – Full Moon Fever
Fleetwood Mac – Rumours
PealJam – Ten
Live – Throwing Copper

Most overrated band/album ever… Radiohead and OK Computer. Middle Class sh*te!

I think this topic is overrated.

U2’s Joshua Tree, Springsteen’s Born to Run/In the USA, Micheal Jackson’s Thriller, and Marvin Gaye’s What’s Going On.

I nominate anything ever done by Pink Floyd.

Whoever said most Beatles albums are overrated do not know what they are talking about…………The Beatles are the best band of all time and all of their albums were great. Dumb asses.

first off nirvana are legends. secondly although i love them to death to be perfectly honest i didnt like stadium arcadium by red hot chili peppers

Bob Dylan’s last 3 disks. Time outta Mind, Love and Theft and Modern Times..
Now for the record I am a HUGE Dylan Fan
Yes they are decent disks, but not CLASSICS.. but hell your magazine will give 5 stars just because of HIS NAME – hell Bob could take a Massive Dump, and you would be giving it a great review.. Yes Bob Dylan is ONE OF A KIND, but these disks are definitely NOT his best stuff.

As much as I hate to say it too.
I think – BECK – ODELAY is WAY Overhyped… Yes its good, but not CLASSIC.

I find that all of this is just a matter of a person’s opinion, or a person’s opinion of other’s opinions. There are some albums/bands who’s acclaim baffles my mind. Like:

Pink Floyd – there is no reason “The Wall” should have sold over 23 million copies.. no reason at all.

The White Stripes – Okay, I gotta admit the two have talent are good, but “Elephant” is really there only great album, the rest basically repeat it.

Wilco – I like a bunch of their songs, but their albums as a whole are genearally boring.

oh and Dave Matthews band sucks.

People just think that it’s cool to dismiss something that is popular. So this is overated or thatt is overrated. It’s retarded…just look at all of this Nirvana bashing over the last few years.

The Eagles definitely

The Eagles and Sublime definitely

BS hipster and 80’s revival. Where the jet black spikey haircuts are more important than the music. Interpol, Franz Ferdinand, Ladytron, Panic at the Disco, My Chemical Romance, Fallout Boy, The Faint, etc.

all u2

The new Nine Inch Nails record. Its pretty boring musically and the concept is as bad as Pink Floyd (Roger Waters) “The Wall”.

I don’t believe that Nirvana is overrated personally, they did a service for American Music by wiping out Hair Metal. As far as overrated….. Kiss is vastly overrated, All of Today’s emo bands are overrated pretty much.
Nothing about Blood Sugar Sex Magik is overrated, Ad Mowery. But Dylan’s Modern Times is overrated.

I don’t believe that Nirvana is overrated personally, they did a service for American Music by wiping out Hair Metal. As far as overrated….. Kiss is vastly overrated, All of Today’s emo bands are overrated pretty much.
Nothing about Blood Sugar Sex Magik is overrated, Ad Mowery. But Dylan’s Modern Times is overrated. Not to mention The Flaming Lips, they aren’t very good.

I don’t believe that Nirvana is overrated personally, they did a service for American Music by wiping out Hair Metal. As far as overrated….. Kiss is vastly overrated, All of Today’s emo bands are overrated pretty much.
Nothing about Blood Sugar Sex Magik is overrated, Ad Mowery. But Dylan’s Modern Times is overrated. Not to mention The Flaming Lips, they aren’t very good.

Nevermind! London Calling.

Somebody help me, what the hell is flaming lips?

The Flaming Lips guy is saying that the INFLUENCE of ‘Nevermind’ has been terrible, not Nirvana themselves – he’s completely right. We’ve had to suffer FIFTEEN YEARS WORTH of awful, mediocre bands stuffed down our throats – simply becuase they have that Nevermind formula.

Tupac – most overrated artist of last 2 decades. He was shot, so what? Doesn’t make him a genius.

Radiohead – OK Computer – I’ve tried, and I just dont get the hype on Radiohead. One of those random bands that the media start running with and after a while everyone starts to believe it.

First let me start by saying that I am a musician. I play cello, piano, trumpet, guitar and several other classical instruments. Nirvana was awful. Bland musicians behind a man whose voice sounded like he may have swallowed the night before. There was nothing musically amazing about Nevermind, four power chords punctuated by a shotgun blast to the dome, literally. Now we’ve all idolized this guy because he was a “brilliant, tortured artist, way ahead of his time.” Actually he was a junky who couldnt play guitar or write a song without bitching like a sixteen year old girl. Soundgarden was talented, Nirvana was a band headed by a dumbass who somehow managed to fool every teenager in the world and is still doing so today. Nevermind was awful. A musically, lyrically, and emotionally exhausting piece of garbage. I love how everyone says the guy from flaming lips “doesnt know shit about music” for saying that about Nirvana. OK. Can you think of any kid whose been playing guitar for more than a month and cant play every song nirvana ever wrote (unless he has only 1 hand). My grandmother could drum Smells like Teen Spirit. Horribly overrated band, horribly overrated album, horribly overrated era of music, and to this day loved by millions of horribly ignorant asses.

I don’t think Nirvana is overrated. They changed the music scene across the country with one song. But so many bands from Seattle were better, musically and lyrically, than Nirvana. Bands like Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, Soundgarden and the Screaming Trees were definitely more talented than Nirvana.

If I had to pick one album/band that’s overrated it would definitely have to be Appetite For Destruction by Guns and Roses.

Nevermind? Overrated? How about anything by Eddie Vedder and Co. Before Kurt’s death, Pearl Jam was considered as talented or more so by many grunge fans… but they were wrong. Seriously.

Tool fans are meaner and stupider than the Bush Administration. I blame the over rated, over blown music. Don’t believe me? Go to a concert and TRY to have a good time. (oh, and David Gilmour wants his laser set back guys.)

Any Flaming Lips where they became a 3 piece, ie the last 10 years.

Red Hot Chili Peppers of the last 10 years.

All Eric Clapton after the 60’s.

All Paul McCartney solo albums.

Mullet rock: 3 doors down, Godsmack, Nickelback, STP, Velvet Revolver, Metallica after the 80’s. The bane of western culture.

Radiohead, Mars Volta, Tool, Spock’s Beard, Dream Theater, and all “neo progressive rock” bands.

Green Day: british punk did it first and better back in the 1970’s! The Jam anyone?

Sublime and all non-jamaican/british ska. Why give redneck american kids an alternative? Make them listen to the real thing. Its too late for the blues unfortunately.

Madonna

Backstreet boys and Nsync changed the music scene too, probably more dramatically than Nirvana. Do we consider them geniuses……..Of course not. Beethoven would have shot Cobain himself if he had been around. Hendrix would have coughed up a lung if he ever saw Cobain on a “50 best guitarist of all time” list. Compare any nirvana album to any metallica album, listen to time changes and the little things that separate a good band from…..well Nirvana. Just dont compare it to anything metallica has put out in the past 18 years, its embarassing to any 55 year old metal fan.

“Nevermind” is a very fine album, but I do believe it is rather overrated. The best album of the 90s? Sure, I guess–but not a top ten rock and roll album of all time. And I was an adolescent (albeit a young one) when that album came out, and it sure as hell didn’t change the way I think about the world. Did it change the direction of rock music? Again, sure–but I gag every time I hear someone say that it “changed the world.” Yet I think the most overrated album ever might be one that I think is truly great: “Pet Sounds.” Great album? Absolutely. Best album EVER, as it is so often named? Can it sustain the greatness of the best work of Elvis Presley, Bob Dylan, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, etc.? I think not. People get too carried away with “historical importance” when they make sweeping statements. Classic example: “Never Mind the Bollocks”: dreadful vocals and mediocre punk music. Can that album stand alongside a great punk album like “London Calling”? Hell no. Oh we could go on…

Radiohead OK Computer.

Im sorry but I never got the hype. It just sounds like Thom Yorke crying while he’s taking a poo

I am going to say Exile on Main Street-Rolling Stones. It’s a very good album but I personally like Sticky Fingers and Let it Bleed much better. Just my opinion. Also everything single album by the Flaming Lips!!!!! and to the people that said all Pink Floyd albums, U2’s Joshua Tree and MJ’s Thriller WTF????

Wilco and Aracde Fire are Godlike bands………saving music………Metallica sucks major azz…….why not bring back Oingo Boingo and White Lion too………that is the same category those non musically oriented power chord junk lyric tools belong………..TOOL=worst band in music’s history and their fans are society rejects

“Odelay” is overrated. I like Beck, but there’s nothing on this album that “Paul’s Boutique” didn’t do better. And strewing lines of nonsense together earns no special points.

“Compare any nirvana album to any metallica album, listen to time changes and the little things that separate a good band from…..well Nirvana.”

Amen to that. Nirvana is/was popular for two reasons: they really VERY different than the music before them, and Cobain died young.

All the praise I’ve EVER heard for that band has been centered around the lyrics, the “tragedy” of Cobain’s suicide, how different they were, and how they changed the music scene. I find it interesting how none of those reasons have to do with the actual music. Lyrics are just a channel for the music of singing, Cobain was selfish for killing himself, different doesn’t mean better, and “changing the music scene” is as good as saying they were part of a fad.

There are so many more bands and artists out there worthy of respect.

“Wayne Coyne rides the coattails of Nirvana. Every time I listen to Soft Bulletin, or Transmissions, I can’t help but think of Nirvana’s genius.”
What a load of crap.
Flaming Lips were a true original, while Nirvana a culmination of many grungy peers.
Flaming Lips invented shit, Nirvana rippped shit apart.
Both were pretty sweet if you ask me!

I think sometimes peoples views on CDs or bands themselves of being over-rated are because they entirely hate the band/CD/band members.
Like U2 is not my cup of tea, and I suppose that they are over-rated, but thats only my opinion.

lol censorship, btw i stopped subscribing im tired of all this

Oh man, every other post seems to be refuting the previous one…every band that hadn’t quite reached its potential when its singer/leader died will inevitably be overhyped…Nirvana, Sublime, Blind Melon, Hendrix, Buddy Holly. Coyne never personally reached much commercial success with the Lips outside of a fluke single or two in the 80’s, maybe if he killed himself, then his band could be overrated too.

1: Almost all of The Beatles albums

2: All of The Rolling Stones albums – since around 1974

3: Anything by Tom Waits with Kathleen (aka Alco Ono) Brennan. The rest is awesome.

4: All Gunners albums

5: All U2 albums – good not great

Bugger it, let’s just settle for 95% of what has been released is mediocre.

i personally think that nirvana’s “Nevermind” is a little overrated, i like “In Utero” more. However, Sgt.Peppers i think is one of if not THE greatest album ever made. I like revolver more, but i can understand why sgt. peppers was so important to music. oh yeah, I’m from boston and i think Aerosmith is SOOOOO overrated, their first album kicks so much ass but steven tyler just HAD to do tons of lines of coke and mess up his voice perminantley.

If you like this debate, I would recommend reading “Kill Your Idols”.

As for the question, there are alot of over-rated albums.

Sgt. Pepper: They were obviously Johnny-Come-Lately to the psychedilic scene. They admitted that they were playing catch-up to The Beach Boys. Ironically, the best song on there sounds the most like The Beach Boys, “She Leaving Today”.

Dark Side Of The Moon: I like some of the songs on there. Everytime I put the album on, I end up turning it off after five minutes. It’s called stoner rock for a reason. You really have to be stoned to listen to it.

OK Computer: It’s merely OK. Unfortunately, the overhyped reponse to the album gave Radiohead a license to stop writing songs and just release music collages.

Yankee Foxtrot Hotel: I still haven’t got the album (For the record, I have had all the other albums that I have mentioned.), but I saw them supporting the album while opening for REM. Those songs are just boring. With the exception of the hard-core fans near the stage, everybody else was falling asleep during their performance.

Chinese Democracy: I have to agree with the poster who asked, “How good is an album that takes this long to release?” GNR died shortly after “The Speghetti Incident”. If or when “Chinese Democracy” ever comes out, it will just be The Axl Rose Project and not Guns N’ Roses. Everybody else that was in the band have moved on to actually release new music.

LOL. Tha Flaming Lips calling Nirvana overrated hahahahaha. The Flaming Lips ahahhahahahahah. Losers. He’s just bitter his band sucks and he’s been led to think he is an indie success. Unfortunatly he doesnt have two dimes to rub together. Bitter and old, with no legacy. Must suck.

Is Nevermind overrated?

well yes and no.

the album exloded a type of music into the mainstream that will influence generations to come. it was an anthem for teens in the 90s.

but yet again. the album did not describe Nirvanas core essence. albums like Bleach describe what the band represents. and In Utero shows Nirvana reaction to becoming corporate in the most non corporate way possible. Nirvana is one of those bands that were trully real. they will be remembered as a trully real band. and i bet you they get inducted into the hall of fame first year of eligibility

Nirvana: Nevermind overrated. In utero and bleach indeed far superior. But put away the hoopla, not everybody gets it. Oh wait there is still Julian Casanblancas? Can we hear from people who really made out of zilch?

Nirvana: Nevermind overrated. In utero and bleach indeed far superior. But put away the hoopla, not everybody gets it. Oh wait there is still Julian Casanblancas? Can we hear from people who really made out of zilch?

You are all idiots, kiss my ass and Nirvana’s also. They may have not been into corny, constant time changes, but thats what made them better than all that garbage that tried so hard to be technical. Hey, 55 year old metal fan stick to your time changes and don’t worry about songwriting, thats what Nirvana did.

I don’t know why everyone calls Kurt Cobain this “incredible songwriter”, because he is not.

I think “Smells Like Teen Spirit” is one of the most annoing songs I have ever heard.

I also think the Greatful Dead is a horribly overrated band.
“Truckin” is almost as annoying as “Smells like Teen Spirit”

Fall out boy.
anyone who says they are “punk”, or for that matter, anyone who says Evanescence is “Goth” needs to be beaten.(BTW:the name evanescence, sounds like a feminine product of some sort i.e a douche)

nirvana owns
r.i.p cobain

its not over rated at all
it started all the grung movement

I think Wayne Coyne makes these asinine statements simply to get his name in print. Flaming Lips have done some good stuff, but they’ve done far more terrible stuff. Compiling a bunch of computer blips and walking in a giant bubble do not make an artist good or great or anything extraordinary. The Flaming Lips have been doing the same thing for the past 20 years – where’s their statement? I rarely, if ever, read about any decent artist claiming the Flaming Lips were an inspiration. Conversely, there are countless artists who point to Nirvana. In summary, Wayne Coyne and the Flaming Lips = mediocre at best. Nirvana = an influential mark on history that will be admired for generations to come.

Nevermind is a great album… maybe a bit overrated, I agree : you don’t get the complete picture of what Nirvana was all about. Nirvana was definitely one of the greatest band ever. But I guess it’s cool to talk shit about them.

I’d say that Sgt Pepper is a bit overrated cause The Beatles released much stronger albums in their carreer. But like Nevermind, it’s a perfect document of its time

here’s a test —

name ten nirvana songs.

okay, now name one flaming lips song.

Any Madonna album aside from “Ray of Light”. William Orbit’s production was fantastic.

Yes and No.

Kurt Cobain was never a “savior” and Smells like Teen Spirit was never the “anthem” it was made out to be.

Nirvana was the right band at the right time–there were bands doing similar things before and at the same time (i.e. The Pixies, Mudhoney) Rock media made them the saviors that many percieve them to have been. I listen to them more now than I did then for what I think they were–a great punk band with a sense of melody. Nevermind really was a great album.

I think it´s an age thing. Some albums you just have to hear when you´re a f*ed up teenager for them to really hit a nerve and make sense… And then they become a lifeline for you forever. If the same album had come out when you were in your thirties and no longer needed it, you just wouldn´t get the hype. So forget underrated – you just wasn´t the right age or the right frame of mind to need it when that album was released. Because – let´s be honest here – the older you get, the less you care about new music. Sure, you keep buying it, you really like a lot of new bands, you might even love one or two new artists, but never with that same passion that you had in your teen years. You only feel that for those bands that gave you exactly what you needed at the time when you felt like the only freak in the universe… So overrated, underrated, it´s just a question of generation and genre.
And since I was too old when Nevermind came out, I just thought it was OK. For me it was another “Nevermind” that did it; Never mind the bollocks…the Sex Pistols. When I listen to it now, it doesn´t sound as loud and messed up as I remember, but back then it was a revolution and it gave me the energy to get through all the BS at school and at home. As I´m sure Nevermind did for a lot of teens at that time.

If you actually read the interview you see that coyne agrees with most posters here i.e that Nirvana were a good band and that In Utero and Bleach are much better albumns ingeneral and more representative of the band. A good point is where he states that if AIC had released the exact same albumn would it have been known as a classic? Or i ask if Nirvana had not released it, would we be discussing In utero or Bleach as they are superior albumns

I’ll take the middle road here and say that Nevermind was an awesome album, but it’s iconic place in music history has so much more to do with the time and what else was going on. If Nevermind had been released 1 year later, all the hype wouldn’t have been there, and Nirvana would be regarded the same as most of those other grunge bands, like Screaming Trees or Alice in Chains.
Also, OK Computer is awesome! I don’t know why everyone’s ripping on it. Everytime I hear it, it just boggles my mind that Thom and Jonny and the rest of them could possibly create something that complex creative. Just my opinion though, so don’t yell at me and tell me how wrong I am if you disagree

Nevermind gets better everytime I hear it.Punk rock meets metal and the U.S.A. fianally gets alternative rock .Then it becomes commercial and the posing sell out begins.
Angst and stoned teenage boners in the sun-that’s rock.

I know I am getting off the subject but…the best Nirvana album is MTV Unplugged New York. My favorite and the only Nirvana CD I still play. I love every song!

John Mayer – I just don’t get what all the fuss is about.

The Beastie Boys – Maybe they were important in the development of rap, but I can’t help but think they sound rediculous.

Flaming Lips are very over rated. And Oasis I can’t stand those guys.

To be over-rated, the album had to be rated highly by fans AND critics. So, to say Bon Jovi is over-rated is stupid because the critics never liked them anyway. Here is a small list of “masterpieces” that (1) suck so bad people think it’s actually unique, (2) aren’t nearly as “unique” as anyone with a decent knowledge of music history already knows, (3) are good, even great, but not masterpieces; and (4) might have been masterpieces at one time but simply don’t hold up over time:

By the way, I really do love some of these albums and detest some others. Don’t let your emotions get in the way of the facts surrounding many of these sacred cows:

Nevermind – Nirvana
Trout Mask Replica – Capt Beefheart (crap!)
Born to Run – Bruce Springsteen
Odelay – Beck
Yankee Foxtrot Hotel – Wilco
Hotel California – Eagles
Appetite for Destruction – GNR
Pet Sounds – Beach Boys
Exile on Main Street – Rolling Stones
Blonde on Blonde – Bob Dylan
IV – Led Zepplin
Revolver – Beatles
London Calling – The Clash
It Takes a Nation of… – Public Enemy
All Eyez on Me…2Pac
The Blueprint – Jay-Z
The Queen is Dead – Smiths
Doolittle – Pixies
Automatic for the People – REM
Dark Side of the Moon – Pink Floyd
The Band – The Band
Blue – Joni Mitchell
Be Here Now – Oasis
Catch a Fire – Bob Marley

I know this band can probably be slated in the where are they now column, but their two mediocre studio releases didn’t warrant the hype they received around the time of their debut. The band is of course THE MUSIC. NME called them the band who would save rock ‘n’ roll; the best British band since Oasis. I think all they got from RSM was a meagre 3 star rating something which measures up to their meagre songwriting, meagre talent, and overall meagre splash in the pan impact. In this case the fans were far more savy than much of the music press, so I feel that in the overrated pantheon of recent years, The Music belong at the top of that list.

I know this band can probably be slated in the where are they now column, but their two mediocre studio releases didn’t warrant the hype they received around the time of their debut. The band is of course THE MUSIC. NME called them the band who would save rock ‘n’ roll; the best British band since Oasis. I think all they got from RSM was a meagre 3 star rating something which measures up to their meagre songwriting, meagre talent, and overall meagre splash in the pan impact. In this case the fans were far more savy than much of the music press, so I feel that in the overrated pantheon of recent years, The Music belong at the top of that list.

I know this band can probably be slated in the where are they now column, but their two mediocre studio releases didn’t warrant the hype they received around the time of their debut. The band is of course THE MUSIC. NME called them the band who would save rock ‘n’ roll; the best British band since Oasis. I think all they got from RSM was a meagre 3 star rating something which measures up to their meagre songwriting, meagre talent, and overall meagre splash in the pan impact. In this case the fans were far more savy than much of the music press, so I feel that in the overrated pantheon of recent years, The Music belong at the top of that list.

I agree with Wayne. Nevermind is way overrated. Also, I’d have to say Sgt. Peppers and the White Album are overrated. Oh, and since I’m venting, Kid A is overrated and so is anything by the Doors.

Oh, and one last jab, Arctic Monkeys are overrated if you only count the British press.

chinese democracy. as much as i love axl.

Nevermind is one of the greatest achievements in rock history. The Flaming Lips, whoever they are, need to be thankful that Nirvana came along and released Nevermind because without it they probably wouldn’t be signed to a major label.

Nevermind is considered great simply because it was the first to break into mainstream. The first of anything is often always remembered and thought of the most. If Mudhoney broke into the mainstream first we would be having this debate against them. In cases like this, timing is everything.

I don’t think nevermind is over rated but it’s impossible to talk about it’s effect outside of it’s time. You won’t get it.

Ps I loved the flaming lips on 90210 : P

nevermind is one of the most overrated records ever. in that era, soundgarden and pearl jam were much better. nevermind was good, but not that good.

Dimebag Darell has been overrated since he died

interesting question? then ask this…is catcher in the rye or a confederacy of dunces overated? how about mahlers 9th? the bible,certainly. what turns you on?

dircut

Louis Cypher…

The Brits didn’t know punk until after CBGBs opened and after The Ramones, punk’s founding fathers, showed those wimpy Brits how to rock.

And calling The White Stripes frat boy rock is just comical, Willaim.

Nirvana is my favorite band,and I fell like I understand their lyrics.To me,they are not overrated,but you have a right to think they are.Also,Nevermind is NOT THEIR BEST ALBUM.Now,you people who won’t stop listening to “Smells Like Teen Spirit”,Listen to Bleach,With The Lights Out (The Boxset),Incesticide,and In Utero (My favorite

Nevermind is over-rated because it’s Nirvana’s “pop” album. People who are not hard-core Nirvana fans only know of Nevermind and the track “Smells Like Teen Spirit” and that makes the album over-rated because so many people that think their die hard fans listen to it only. Kurt admitted that Nevermind wasn’t the greatest and it was pop-y. Nevermind does not portray Nirvana accurately.

I still remember where I was when I first heard Teen Spirit. I don’t remember that about most songs. At the time it was a revelation. Think of what was on the radio before that album.

Overrated? Anything by the stones since the 70’s. Almost all Springsteen. Anything by Madonna.

The impact of Nirvana extends beyond the music. Kurt Cobain was called the spokeman for his generation. There is a reason for this; the music he made on Nevermind and all the other Nirvana albums spoke to the anxieties of the young in the early nineties; alienation, loserdom, pent up anger and frustration… It threw up in the face of overproduced, flashy hair and riff bands. And besides it was simply good fucking music. The Beatles not the Turtles were the ambassadors for their generation for a reason. I don’t believe you can call an album that had such a meteoric and farreaching impact overrated. Kurt Cobain was critical of his own work because he resented his fame and status. That doesn’t change the fact that it is to this day a very good and a very important record.

Overated and overhyped? How about “At War with the Mystics” by the Flaming Lips. Or any other Flaming Lips Album. Flaming Lips = 2nd rate carnival midway music.

Pink Floyd’s The Dark Side of the Moon.

I think Alice in Chains, whether they broke the sound or not, is superior in every conceivable way to all the other grunge/Seattle bands – including Nirvana. Better musically, better lyrically, rocked harder, more polished, presented themes is honest & straigtforward ways – rather than sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek, tragically hip ways.

three albums that are completely overated….
1) Framton comes alive!-peter framton… give me a break who likes this album!

2)Dark side of the moon- pink floyd… i really dont care for this album that much… but thats just me i find it over ated

3)any rap cd!- SCREW RAP! (nuff said)

three albums that are completely overated….
1) Framton comes alive!-peter framton… give me a break who likes this album!

2)Dark side of the moon- pink floyd… i really dont care for this album that much… but thats just me i find it over ated

3)any rap cd!- SCREW RAP! (nuff said)

Pink Floyd is UNDER-rated. My Chemical Romance’s Welcome to the Black Parade= overrated and so is anything by the rapper Chris Brown. Fergie, too, she is extremely over-rated.

what’s with all yu retards claiming bleach was better than nevermind, you are obviousely just trying to sound like you know something. Bleach was a horrible album, listen to it, I dare you to try and listen to it all the way through. Kurt did say that Nevermind was pop, but he also said that he liked it and that he liked pop music. Get off your high horse. In Utero is an amazing album(in my top 5), but don’t rip on nevermind. And to the nimrod who made those stupid comments about mudhoney, they suck, their music sucks, they could never be the top dog, and if nevermind came out a year later, it all would have happened a year later, another difference would be that PJ and AIC would have been tossed into the hair metal genre.

Nevermind is very overrated…

so are the Beatles

any album by Springsteen, Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, Neil Diamond

Early death is the ticket to immortality…Nirvana is waaaaay over rated…Kurt Cobain as a songwriter and especially as a guitar player is way over rated…if Hendrix didnt die at 27 would there even be an arguement for him being better than Page…I dont think so…

Early death is the ticket to immortality…Nirvana is waaaaay over rated…Kurt Cobain as a songwriter and especially as a guitar player is way over rated…if Hendrix didnt die at 27 would there even be an arguement for him being better than Page…I dont think so…

I don’t understand why Chinese Democracy keeps popping up. Its not even out yet people!

Bob Dylan is way overrated.
He is an awful singer, mediocre at best guitar player, abd half his lyrics dont even make sense.
If you want something real, complex,and meanigful I would say Nirvana, or Radiohead, or most toher bands portray it better

Its seems that those considering an artist or album overrated, are using their personal interest or dislike of another musical genre to make their decision. Its seems like almost all great songwriters or performers are mentioned by someone!

I honestly think the beatles are overrated, good but not as epic as some people say. I also think the white stripes are the most terrible band ever and I hate how everyone talks about how great they are, I really think they are trash.

Any Phish album.

just because you dont understand something, doesnt mean its overrated. if people like it, it must be good somehow

any flaming lips album

any flaming lips album

John Mayer is far from being overrated. He is a magnificent guitarist and now is finally starting to come out of his shell with his more recent stuff. Especially the trio, hes finally layin down the blues and can just be himself…But I will agree on his older stuff. Complete crap just to become recognized

how does the fact that an artist not releasing material considered as classic….nullify their prior or future releases and make them “over rated” e.g. Metallica – Kill Em All – TBA being overrated due to lack of appreciation to Load – St. Anger.
Zeppelin being another argument above?

Overrated-
anything by Pink Floyd, Bon Jovi or Heart.
Underrated-
Desperate Youth, Blood Thirsty Babes Tv on the Radio and Aha Shake Heartbreak Kings of Leon

Audioslave-Revelations

Nickleback- All The Right reasons: Popular because of one dimensional people who don’t have any special talents, style, or artistic abilities, which may be why people can relate to Nickleback’s music.

Nirvana- Nevermind: Defined an era but at the same time, due to overhype, this album left many superior albums in the shadows ie, Soundgarden’s Bad Motofinger and Alice In Chains dirt, which are technically “metal” albums, but were bunched in with the alternative or the grunge movement, even though these bands existed before Nirvana.

The Beatles- Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band: Overated for the simple fact it can’t hold a match to Pet Sounds which was very much underated for all the wrong reasons.

Nickleback- All The Right reasons: Popular because of one dimensional people who don’t have any special talents, style, or artistic abilities, which may be why people can relate to Nickleback’s music.

Nirvana- Nevermind: Defined an era but at the same time, due to overhype, this album left many superior albums in the shadows ie, Soundgarden’s Bad Motofinger and Alice In Chains dirt, which are technically “metal” albums, but were bunched in with the alternative or the grunge movement, even though these bands existed before Nirvana.

The Beatles- Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band: Overated for the simple fact it can’t hold a match to Pet Sounds which was very much underated for all the wrong reasons.

***OVERRATED***

“Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots” – The Flaming Lips

“Get Behind Me Satan” – The White Stripes

“Modern Times” – Bob Dylan

“Nevermind” – Nirvana

***NOT OVERRATED***

“OK Computer” – Radiohead. Some of you people can’t tolerate the fact that Radiohead is one of the few bands that has consistently released strong albums since its formation. You can’t say that about many bands these days.

Never mind… Nirvana is one of the best band ever.. they are authentic, and give to the rock a second life

Wilco is overated (all album)
Eminem encore

I see people saying that Dark Side of the Moon is overrated. Then why has it been one of the best selling albums ever. It was in the top ten in jolly ole’ for a decade straight and it still pops up to the top 100 every now and then. You may see albums or bands as overrated but look at sales, not just over one or two years but in the long run. How can a band be overrated when they held the entire billboard top five singles in the same week, a feat that stands 43 years later.

If your music defines a generation, then you can never be over rated, unless it was disco.

If your music defines a generation, then you can never be over rated, unless it was disco.

Unerrated:

Queens Of The Stone Age

Overrated:

Way to many to name…Maroon 5, John Mayer, Alicia Keys, etc

Definitely every album by dead man’s fave Nirvana…and all vinyls by Madonna, Eminem, and Britney Spears (I hate these three people). I definitely hate and hate and hate rap and hiphop. Screw them a gazillion times.

Arctic Monkeys- Whatever People Say…
Sex Pistols- Nevermind…
The Doors- Any album
The Strokes- Is This It

Arctic Monkeys- Whatever People Say…
Sex Pistols- Nevermind…
The Doors- Any album
The Strokes- Is This It

If you have ever relesed an album that gets popular you are viewed as overrated by someone. In my opinion it would be any album by The Flaming Lips.

If you have ever relesed an album that gets popular you are viewed as overrated by someone. In my opinion it would be any album by The Flaming Lips.

If you have ever relesed an album that gets popular you are viewed as overrated by someone. In my opinion it would be any album by The Flaming Lips.

Dark Side Of The Moon – Pink Floyd
Anything by The Doors (what a truly awful band)
Morning View – Incubus

Underrated – Black Sabbath – anything from 1970-1974, Melvins “Houdini” and Motorhead – all albums from 1977-1983. These bands influenced all bands currently playing hard rock music.

Overrated – Led Zeppelin, U2, the Police, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Pink Floyd, the Stooges, Nirvana, Sex Pistols, Van Halen, Beck, etc., etc.

Public Enemy and NWA. All the rest of rap is abysmal.

nirvana is extremely overated. cobain somehow made it onto the list of the greatest guitarists of time. the last time i checked, feedback and power chords werent considered good guitar playing.

jimmy page is way better than hendrix.

ekey- have you ever listened to vs.? and vitalogy’s better than ten. pearl jam’s only below par album was binaural, and it still had some good songs.

nirvana is extremely overated. cobain somehow made it onto the list of the greatest guitarists of time. the last time i checked, feedback and power chords werent considered good guitar playing.

jimmy page is way better than hendrix.

ekey- have you ever listened to vs.? and vitalogy’s better than ten. pearl jam’s only below par album was binaural, and it still had some good songs.

nirvana is extremely overated. cobain somehow made it onto the list of the greatest guitarists of time. the last time i checked, feedback and power chords werent considered good guitar playing.

jimmy page is way better than hendrix.

ekey- have you ever listened to vs.? and vitalogy’s better than ten. pearl jam’s only below par album was binaural, and it still had some good songs.

For starters, Flaming Lips and Billy Childish don’t deserve to be interviewed…

I respect the Dead but they do nothing for me. Neither does rap or hip-hop, Timberlake- oh, I could go on for hours….

WOW, a lot of opinions. I must say that the most underrated bands are up for arguement but these are mine:

The Tragically Hip
Midnight Oil
The Replacements

I will challenge anyone with these bands.

The rolling stones are by far the most overrated band in history, i can’t imagine what people see in shitty music. They provide no support musically as their music sucks. Seeing a scrawny mick jagger walk like a chicken yelping and a terrible guitarist such a keith richards get praised for his absolutly dispictable guitar solos(sympathy for the devil) makes me sick.

Another Underrated:

Living Colour

Wayne Coyne’s write-up for Nevermind is atrocious. As if the fact that a lot of crappy bands imitate it suddenly makes it a bad album. Um, no. Actually, the crappiness of something like Nickelback only makes it more obvious how superior and timeless Nevermind is.

By the Way, Nirvana Rocks. Don’t let anybody fool you into anything different. I lived it in Seattle beginning to end. They were for real.

The first few times I heard Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, I felt the same way a lot of you do. It was just…eh. But a month or so later I came back to it one day, and since then it’s just gelled. I think it’s brilliant, not overrated at all.

I love the Flaming Lips. Just saw them at Bonnaroo, but I think Wayne is wrong on this one. Kurt wasn’t the greatest guitar player he just clever enough to make good songs with the talent he had. As far as Overated I would say Linkin Park, Most rap, nickelback, most of the new bands, fall out boy, all that emo shit..

Stadium Arcadium – Red Hot Chili Peppers

Sam’s Town – The Killers

The Joshua Tree – U2

Coldplay – X&Y

grunge was not that of a huge matter as hiphop was in the late 80s – early 90s maybe, but without Kurt’s heavy passion for ‘dissing’ the world we couldn’t have the aggressive optimism of Beastie Boys, Green Day or Weezer, all of whom i love dearly.
i don’t see the criteria for ‘overrating’ but Cobain actually wrote some classic songs and had muse on his side. and most of all, he died with history, that’s the fact most people like, in other words he IS a pop star.

I think all the album that been mentioned here are way OVERRATED…

overrated-H.I.M., maralyn manson.

UNDERRATED-ARMY OF ANYONE, how is it that Velvet Revolver are huge while this Stone Temple Pilots/Filter band barely got any press at least they sound like a band and not just a bunch of talented people in the same room. I like V.R. but I’m sick of people calling them a great band, I don’t know mabe things will be different of their knew album?

I noticed that some of you are ignorant to great music. Examples being Radiohead, Flaming Lips The dead, and Pink Floyd. Well that’s cool hopefully you stop listening to the total crap they play on your local radio. There’s Hope for you yet.

any post-Bill Berry REM

Mick Jagger’s last solo album
(didn’t that get 5 stars, RS?)

anything by Radiohead after
“The Bends”

This is about “over-rated” albums, not “bad” albums. Yes, Nirvana’s “Nevermind” was overrated… doesn’t make it any less good, but when you are the band that “broke alternative into the mainstream” ( whatever that means ), it doesn’t mean that we need to hear a song of yours every hour on the radio for the next twenty years. Their greatness doesn’t really should define the genre either. There were a lot of great bands from the Seattle scene that were as good, if not better. They definately sold more records than those other bands. Than again, the Eagles also sold a lot of records, so…

I like the Flaming Lips… I wouldn’t go far as comparing Kurt to the Nickelback guy, but that’s, you know, Wayne’s opinion.

If I need to at least talk directly about an artist being overrated, let’s talk about Dave Matthews Band. Accomplished musicians, but to me, their overall popularity is inexplicable, beyond having to be in a substance-fueled state of mind to get into it.

Nirvana’s Nevermind album changed the face of music to come before Kurts death and after it. And comparing nevermind to Nicklebacks music is just disgusting. Wayne Coyne what were you thinking?

Well, has anyone read “Kill Your Idols?” Because that’s pretty much the exact same thing we’re talking about here.

Look it up.

And Nirvana and the Arctic Monkeys are the most overhyped bands in the universe.

Guns and Roses flat out suck!and if the White Stripes don’t suck they are breathing very deeply.now as far as the people who say Dylan is over=rated: He knows he doesn’t sound like Gordon Lightfoot.He performs vocal gymnastics that lesser singers cannot dream of . he is as real as the day is long.as for his guitar playing: too many people that really play guitar would simply laugh at that ignorance.He is known for building a great band, ever listen to his acoustic work on “Pat Garrett & BILLY the Kid”? and if his lyrics suck why do so many people know them? why do so many bands cover Dylan’s songs,why do poets writers and educator cite his lyrics as examples of superior writing ?I know it’s only an opinion,but is everybody who’s honored him at the highest level wrong?

80% of these comments are off topic.

The issue was Nevermind’s impact on music today. (for better or worse)

It’s ridiculous to say that an album’s impact and quality MUST parallel each other. In fact they usually don’t.

What is the basis for saying an album is overrated? Is it in the context of all popular music? In the context of the (usually biased) review? In the context of the album’s genre? Year/time period?

Ace of Base is very underrated. Sweden rocks hard. I have saw the sign, and it is an Ace of Base reunion. Deny me and you will burn in the depths of hell. I love you all:)

Try This: READ THE ACTUAL ARTICLE BEFORE YOU POST

Maybe you won’t be so fast to rail against any of the reviewers.

Just think who’s side Kurt Cobain would be on in this argument…if he even gave a damn at all.

is this conversation really depressing?

NEWSFLASH: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BETTER, WORSE OR WHATEVER. WHAT’S THE CRITERIA? JIMMY PAGE BETTER THAN HENDRIX? NIRVANA OVERRATED? WHO DECIDES THIS?

seriously i am painfully sick of people going on and on about how their favorite bands are the “best”.

you want to change the world? put down your guitar, turn off your computer, AND GO MAKE BOMBS…..

is this conversation really depressing?

NEWSFLASH: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BETTER, WORSE OR WHATEVER. WHAT’S THE CRITERIA? JIMMY PAGE BETTER THAN HENDRIX? NIRVANA OVERRATED? WHO DECIDES THIS?

seriously i am painfully sick of people going on and on about how their favorite bands are the “best”.

you want to change the world? put down your guitar, turn off your computer, AND GO MAKE BOMBS…..

is this conversation really depressing?

NEWSFLASH: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BETTER, WORSE OR WHATEVER. WHAT’S THE CRITERIA? JIMMY PAGE BETTER THAN HENDRIX? NIRVANA OVERRATED? WHO DECIDES THIS?

seriously i am painfully sick of people going on and on about how their favorite bands are the “best”.

you want to change the world? put down your guitar, turn off your computer, AND GO MAKE BOMBS…..

Let me throw Kiss’ “Alive” albums into the overrated mix. Especially since these “landmark” “live” albums were later overdubbed in the studio!

i wonder about the age of some of the people posting.if you weren’t alive in the 60’s many of those albums must sound dated or cliche’d.what about the Glenn Miller orchestra, Elvis, Ray Charles? they are not only underrated, many of those making a critical choice ignore anything that isn’t on THEIR radio.

Like Kurt Cobain would give a shit what a has-been like Wayne Coyne thinks…

You’d think that with the amount of time they’ve been around that The Flaming Lips would be at least a little relavent…

Why don’t you change the face of music as we know it Wayne Coyne, then talk.

Kyle ; on my screen it says the topic is what do you think are underrated albums

i meant overrated.

Hey Baconfarts, what the hell Good will building a bomb do?

Anything by the eminent poseurs The White Stripes…icky thump my ass.

have you noticed what they’ve done to you?

this is free speech? the handsome ability to waste you lives discussing your tastes alongside others? try actually acting for once. art, music, books…they “simulate” action.

get off your “superior” tastes and actually do something. anything. please. this is getting really boring being a hypocrite.

Nirvana is way over rated (Soundgarden, Alice in Chains and Pearl Jam [were]are much better bands).
The Doors is over rated (they suck actualy) so is The Velvet Underground (and Lou Reed – nice lyrics sometimes, crap songs mostly). Dylan used to be good but his latest stuff does not deserve more than 2 stars. same goes for McCartney. which reminds me! probably the most over rated artist of all time – JOHN LENNON! Imagine? Mind Games? All that crap with Yoko Ono? Give me a break! Everybody diminishes McCartney for writing “silly love songs” but at least he had some tunes. After Lennon left the Beatles (and stopped writing with or trying to do better than Paul) his stuff is almost as bad as Ringo’s!
Eric Clapton is also way over rated. Tears in Heaven, anyone?

congrats surly.

you have managed to rhyme “sartre” with “farts”.

and you capitalized “Good”. an eternal value. an incorruptible idea. also, a waste of time.

you had time to waste after telling everyone to get off the computer.and you didn’t answer my question.tell us all about the good thing bombs bring .

Anything by Amy Winehouse (alcoholic slag singing in slow-motion does not = edgey music)and 98% of the Flaming Lips catalogue.

My dad farted in a bag one time. Then he made me slam dunk the bag with the fart in it, right in Magic Johnsons face……

My personal picks for the most overrated albums:

1. Anything by the Who after “Who’s Next” They should have split up back in 1971.
2. The Beatles (White Album) this was really four solo albums edited down to a double album.
3. Led Zeppelin after “Physical Graffiti”.
4. Michael Jackson after “Thriller”.
5. Van Halen after David Lee Roth left the first time. Sammy Hagar can sing, but he doesn’t have Roth’s personality.
6. Most of what has been heard on mainstream rock stations after 1985. Boy bands who have never touched an instrument. Overexposed junior divas who get by on their looks alone. And finally rap artists who pretend to be gangsters and pimps, yet they are all flash and no substance. Finally, anyone who became famous on “American Idol”. These are singers who sing songs that are sanitized and lobotimized for general comsumption by radio conglomerates to satisfy their advertisers who panic when somebody is outraged by what goes on the air.
7. Almost anything by Jethro Tull

Metallica’s Black album

Spencer, correction…Nirvana did not wipe out hair metal….Guns N Roses and Metallica wiped out hair metal…Nirvana is probably the most over-rated band in the history of music…Guns N Roses Use Your Illusions and Metallicas Black album were both superior to Nevermind…if Kurt didnt kill himself Nirvana would have been forgotten by now….dont get me wrong I am a Nirvana fan, but they were not the saviors of rock n roll….WHO did they influence?! oh i forgot if it werent for Nirvana there would be no Weezer, butthole surfers or Seven Mary three….yeah thanks kurt….

“good”. “all the good things”. until you, this means alot of people, get rid of this ridiculous notion of “good, bad, evil”, whatever, you really will never ACT.

“platonic morals, christian frosting”.

um…

guns ‘n’ roses WAS a hair band john. look at their early pics. listen to their music. whats the differnce between november rain and all those other power ballads? not much, just november rain was FAR more PRENTENTIOUS.

and metallica? don’t make me laugh. these people are barely literate. they wrote a song about werewolves for christ’s sake.

I agree that nevermind is overrated. That could be the fault of rock radio, but I do find it slightly juvenile. Maybe I’d change my mind if they reissued it without the beginning of “Territorial Pissings”.
A Nirvana album that should be in the pantheon is Unplugged, which was brilliant. It really brought out the genius of Kurt’s songwriting and performing, especially the version of “Pennyroyal Tea.”

Is Nirvana overrated? No. They are so basic and fluid, it seems most don’t understand the fundamental truth of their music. But yeah, don’t just look at Nevermind, look at everything. “Muddy Banks” is my favorite album.

The Flaming Lips, if you listen to their songs, are not nearly as complelling as what you’ll find in most of Nirvana. Sorry to the guys from Flaming Lips who thought Nirvana was overrated. He’s still alive though, so mayble he’ll come up with something in his time left.

If the top ten Flaming Lips songs (as in ITunes) are as intersting as the top fifty Nirvana songs, please let me know. “Unplugged” is godly.

baconsartre you haven’t said anything fake intellectual. why build a bomb? answer!

idiot wind blowing every time you move your teeth.you’re an idiot baconsartre. its a wonder that you still know how to breath

Sergeant Pepper
All gun’s and roses
The Wall (pink floyd)

i smell burnt bacon,sort of

“Nevermind” by Nirvana is the most overrated album of all time. That’s easy. Not so many others come to mind. “TV on the Radio”s music is mostly horrid, but a critical success. U2’s “How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb” was a forgetting album racking up accolades.
To go to truly overrated, you’d have to go further back than a few years ago. Since I am barely 20, Nirvana’s won it by default.

“Nevermind” by Nirvana is the most overrated album of all time. That’s easy. Not so many others come to mind. “TV on the Radio”s music is mostly horrid, but a critical success. U2’s “How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb” was a forgetting album racking up accolades.
To go to truly overrated, you’d have to go further back than a few years ago. Since I am barely 20, Nirvana’s won it by default.

Nevermind is overrated as is Smells Like Teen Spirit.

Dr Dre – Chronic 2001 – quite possibly one of the worst hip hop albums i’ve ever heard!

Anything by Eminem – completely overrated bollocks!!

Radiohead – post OK Computer – different doesn’t always equals exciting!

How can anyone say the Beatles were overrat6ed. Come on, think!! Yes, Nirvana were overrated as were the Doors. How popular were they really until their frontmen croaked? Rolling Stones too. They should have packed in after Let It Bleed. They are a joke. UNderrated bands have got to be Buckcherry, the Black Keys and Zen Guerrilla.

Hang on a sec,someone from THE FLAMING LIPS is calling NIRVANA over-rated?I don’t think he’s ever listened to any of his band’s own over-hyped meaningless piece of shit music.Flaming Lips are a novelty act at the very best.
Any Raiohead,Pavement,Pink Floyd or Arcade Fire album(as good as they are) are completely overrated.

Any rolling stones album since start me up is overrated. And a few of them before aren’t so good either….

Yeah, Nevermind is overrated… but overrated doesn’t mean bad. Sorry Wayne Coyne, but Yoshimi is overrated too. Good, but overrated.

All the bands I like are underrated; those I don’t like are overrated. Who’s right, and who’s wrong? Raphael can’t hold a candle to Dali because he is not a surrealist. You listen, if you like it it’s good, if not, don’t listen again.

Hmmm,I’d say these get way too much praise:

The White Stripes-pretty much every album
Hot Hot Heat-Makeup The Breakdown
R.E.M.-Document

What Nevermind did at the time was save us from all the crap that was playing. Nirvana and all the other bands from that genre were great at what they did. Whether you call it grunge, alternative, flannel it doesn’t matter. The music from Seattle in the late 80’s, early 90’s reminded us that musicians didn’t have to dress up and wear makeup to be heard. Nirvana’s Nevermind in my mind, is a classic for what it stood for at the time. Kurt Cobain was a beautiful person who wrote music that touched alot of people. People have thier own opinions but to compare Nirvana to Nickelback? Please.

john, you are not a Nirvana fan.

and to say that nirvana isn’t important is idiotic. whenever there is a topic about nirvana there is an overload of comments.
Like it or not, kurt was the lennon of the 90’s. eddie was jethro tull

OVERRATED IN MY OPINION: all the hair bands of the 80’s, and anything by AC/DC, Nirvana, Alicia Keys, Evanescence, Kanye West, Creed, Usher’s last album, everything by P Diddy EXCEPT his last album, most of today’s hip-hop…. I could go on & on & on……

forgot to mention anything by My Chemical Romance. Why do they even exist????

I feel that Nirvana and Grunge was groundbreaking at the time because it changed music. However, grunge paved the way for crap like Creed, Evanesance, Puddle of Mud and the rest of the it to become popular. Just as arena rock became tired in the 80’s, so too has the offspring of grunge by the late 90’s and early 00’s.

since hind sight is 20/20…I will agree and say that Nirvana is overrated. They changed music but not exactly for the better.

what a loser get-together…

p.s. god, your funny! All of you!

Alot of people dont like Nirvana because of their own personal taste in Music, which really doesnt mean that Nirvana or Nevermind was overrated. I’m not a fan of R&B but that doesnt mean I think Marvin Gayes Whats Goin On is overrated. There is no denying that album and artist affected a ton of people even if I wasnt one of them, which in essence makes it important. The Cultural impact an album or artist HAD/HAS
defintley merits consideration when determining if they are indeed overrated.

Words are too limiting to fully describe how overrated Kanye West is.

Words are too limiting to fully describe how overrated Kanye West is.

I’ve never understood the accolades for Nirvana. They were good and had some decent tunes, but I don’t think their music was that earth shattering. The other bands out of that era were far superior IMHO. Particularly Alice in Chains and Soundgarden. I think people jump on bandwagons and believe too much of the hype instead of trusting their ears.

Hey Snif, you obviously didn’t look hard at GnR’s pics, to notice they didn’t wear makeup, they were four street urchin’s right of the street’s of LA rags to riches bad ass rockers…. and you obviously didn’t listen to thier music to understand it was on a different scale completely then the other bands of that era! Which is why GnR is playing to a sold out crowd in Australia tonight, 20 years after they broke out of the scene and not playing backyard fairs and festivals like Poison. Do your homework and quit “Sniffin” the glue!

nirvana is totally overrated, the fortune the acheived was more of a right place, right time thing, there were loads of bands that were way more groundbreaking than nirvana, in fact nirvana wasn’t groundbreaking at all, people tend to act like it was because is was the first time that kind of music was in the top 40

Weezer may be the most overrated gibberish ever. Just because they made being a geek popular? Come on’…….I fart better music than Weezer ever put out.

It’s about damn time someone came out and said this. I’ve been telling people that Nirvana is overrated for years.

Kurt was a decent song writer and an average guitar player at best. The best thing he’s ever done was make way for the Foo Fighters.

(Sorry if I missed it…) Most of the “albums” churned out by Ryan Adams. Boil it down, dude!

Nirvana was mind blowing by the time Smells like teen spirit went out. Totally new wave! You must have the guts to admit!

Use Your Illusion – Guns ‘n Roses

Anything by Bob Dylan after Desire

rolling stones
the who

A list of bands that are overrated
1)Nirvana- Influencal yes, but very overhyped
2)Nickelback-Man-gi na rock at its worst
3)The Doors-Where to start?
4)The Beatles-Influental, but come on. Half the problem is their fans overdoing their contribution
5)Pink Floyd-Good albums, but people act like its sex
6)Just about any rap-How can you be loved for writing about the same shit over and over again.

There are more, but these are the ones at the forefront.

Personally, I think many of you are missing the point. It’s not a question of Cobain or Nirvana being overated, which, even as a fan, I agree they are. Coyne said that NEVERMIND was overated… and he couldn’t be more wrong. That one album changed the mainstream and alternative music landscape like nothing had in years. The album was more than the sum of it’s parts. When it was released, the term Grunge did not even exist and no one knew who the heck Cobain was! The sound was new and fresh, you couldn’t label it. It was kinda like when punk broke out in the 70’s, but on a much broader and grander scale. The release of Nevermind affected music and culture throughout the world, it was like a big enema for our collective ears. This is a fact which you can’t deny regardless of whether or not you like the music (if you doubt me, go back and look at the billboard lists when Nevermind was released, it’s who’s who of one hit wonders, over produced hair bands, and no talent pop stars). True, other bands have produced albums throughout the years that may have been better than Nevermind on some level. But just like music, timing is everything.

Personally I feel that The Flaming Lips are overrated.

Coyne is not wrong to say that Nevermind is overrated. But context is everything, and here it might be better if he said the LP was “overplayed.” As in, radio and MTV programmed those songs to death, and the band and the record company overplayed their hand in selling the product in too many unenlightened markets.

It’s only in hindsight that you can see the effects of a massive Nevermind campaign on the band, the fans, and particularly on Cobain. For example, their next record — a far superior set of songs and much richer subject matter, with brilliant anti-production by Steve Albini — suffers the half-assed fate of the “follow-up.” If expectations had been more realistic, In Utero would have been appreciated as the stellar collection of post-grunge songs that it is. Not some ragged edge of the band as it began to fall apart.

No, Nevermind is not a stone classic. It’s too insular, too of its time. You could say that in places it is reactionary. But it is a landmark of hard rock and teenage angst, and it deserves a place in the canon.

To compare it to Nickelback, I hope, was just a joke.

I grew up with Nirvana. I don’t think they’re over rated at all. Let’s see you try and make music like Kurt. I don’t think you could, sucka. His lyrics are crazy.. I think he had such a sick mind.. The flaming lips are overrated.. so are Greenday. oh boy they really sold out..

dont hate.

dont hate.

This from a guy in a f’ing bunny suit…acknowledging comments for more than 30 seconds from anyone calling “Nevermind” overrated is a waste of time. Let me guess cooler-than-the-room indie wannabees and teenie boppers, the Beatles weren’t that good either, right?

In response to an earlier comment I feel Sgt. Peppers is superior to Pet Sounds, yet the Beach Boys made an album w/ atleast 4 unforgettable tunes on it. Is it really possible for the Beatles to be overrated, they were the most popular nad the best at what they did, how many can say that.

Nevermind isn’t overrated. It’s more that people are tired of hearing about it because it was an album they grew up with, or at least had to deal with in their lifetime. That’s like saying that Pulp Fiction is overrated just because people are tired of hearing it’s praises be sung for so long now about how groundbreaking it is.

If you want to talk about overrated, that would HAVE to be The Strokes. The lovefests that some other magazines have with them makes it all that much worse too.

Also, I am not by any means a Lips fan, I feel they make very unentertaining music, am I the miniority here though?

I’m glad someone finally mentioned buckchery as being underrated. The music world was so desperate for good rock music in 1999 that their first album got way over hyped. Then everyone got tired of them and moved on. Their new album 15 came out last year and is their best album by far but its only managed to sell 1 million copies. That’s no small feat but it should have sold a lot more.

I’m not a Buckcherry fan, never got into them byt I hear nothing but good things. I feel Brand New is vastly unerrated, yes they used to make oppy little highschool punk cds that were very catchy but their last 2 albums were very strong.

“Joshua Tree” by U2
“Peggy Suicide” by Julian Cope
“Sandinista” by the Clash
“1999″ by Prince
“Never Mind the Bollocks” by the Sex Pistols

With the backdrop of late 80’s and early 90’s hair metal as the norm, any hard rock/metal/punk that was half way decent would have ended up being over rated because music fans were starving for something new. So, it is hard to say that Nevermind is not over rated, butthat does not take away from its quality or landmark status.

I do like nirvana, but nevermind is really overrated

stuff by great bands like the beatles and the stones, but from the early 60s and not really any progression from the decade before is really overrated

All of the cds above that got good critical reviews, are technically excellent and fresh. Just because Nirvana isn’t really catchy like their idols, the “Pixies,” does not mean that Nevermind, and In Utero weren’t masterpieces of the emerging grunge genre. About Nickelback.. what hype? They’ve always sucked, and their music has always sounded the same. White stripes are awesome, Flaming Lips are awesome, 1999 is SUPER awesome. Just get a better attention span, and wider tastes you morons. What’s really overrated is bands like Fall Out Boy, and My Chemical Romance. Just because they’re slightly better and more thematic than the average pop/punk band DOES NOT mean they’re actually talented in any way.

I think ANAL is overrated!
ANAL ANAL ANAL!!!!!!!!

a lot of you guys who are bashing jam bands are really really retarded. grateful dead and phish albums were not overrated, they barely got any props at all because the fans and the bands knew that they weren’t even that good. the strength of these bands was the unbelievable live shows they put on. their studio albums were definitely not overrated, they were mostly criticized. And if you think they are overrated then you just don’t know good music if i hits you in the face, go listen to some 80s pop and grunge. what a laughing stock

Underrated –

1)The Police – People easily overlook them due to Sting’s solo career following the dissolution of the group. The Press loved to scorn and criticize him, therefore casting a shadow over the greatest Rock Trio in history. Recently, saw both shows in Seattle, It truly is like they never left the scene. Incredible Energy, talent and sophistication. They are back in BLUE!

Coldplay is overrated too… yet I’ve not seen anyone complain about them.

Nirvana is NOT overrated. they changed the musical and cultural landscape. It doesn’t mean they were perfect it’s just that their impact was signifigant….thus they are not overrated.

The Flaming LIPS SUCK!!!

Why are people posting Nickelback albums in the overrated category? I don’t think anyone outside of a NASCAR event has ever mistaken Nickelback for rock geniuses.

Re: The Beatles, I do think praise of Sgt. Pepper is overblown. Rubber Soul, Revolver and The White Album are better. It’s still damn good album though.

Wayne Coyne is right about Nevermind. It was a great album for its time, but I never find myself going back to it. In Utero is more lasting.

My choices for overrated albums: anything by The Doors, anything by U2 post Achtung Baby, anything in the Aerosmith catalog, grunge music in general from 91-94 excluding Alice in Chains, Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins

all music is overrated
all musical significance overstated
all sales charts so outdated

Think of all the crap that people call great…
The strokes
The hives
The vines
The libertines
What Garabage!!! I’ll take NEVERMIND any day over that. Hell I’ll take silence over those nobs!!

Overrated NIrvana? please, go and listen The Artic Monkeys… that ban can be called overrated, but no Nirvana.

Someone mentioned coldplay as being overrated and I have to agree that they are getting there. Unless they at least tweak their music a little bit before their next album they will become overrated. They still make good music though.

Overrated by whom? The public? Critics? Or just in general? A lot of folks here seem confused between a disc being “over-rated” and a disc being “bad”. Most people would not dispute the fact that the first Arctic Monkeys album was definitely overrated (as an example), but it’s a terrific album. It’s just a rock record though, not the second coming, the way most articles made it sound at the time of their release. “Definitely Maybe”, “The Wall”, “Get Behind Me Satan”, and just about everything the Flaming Lips ever released are totally over-rated among thousands of other discs…but I like all of them tremendously. They’re just records though. Lots of stuff more important in life. Something I think most of the people involved with making the records listed above will agree with.

And I’ve found that most people who say the Beatles were over-rated are usually too young to remember the influence felt by the band when they were an active, functioning unit. Not just musically, but in style and social trends as well. There’s never been a band before or since that has had such an impact. I personally think that, say, “Rubber Soul” or “Revolver” are better listening than “Pepper”, but over-rated? Nah…when it was released, it sounded like it came from another planet, that’s how different it was from anything that came before it. Just my $.02

rockstar70, please go die somewhere…NOW

i have a real bad headache…. nevermind

Wayne Coyne should shut up, and go back to singing songs about pink robots, and making albums that need 4 CD players in order to play them. He’s just jealous that Nirvana had more of an impact than his pretentious band.

As for Nevermind being overrated… can’t agree with that argument. I can’t think of one album that changed the musical landscape in the past 20 years than that, though I do prefer In Utero.Seriosuly… didn’t hair metal pretty much vanish once MTV started playing Teen Spirit? Who else knocked Michael Jackson off the top of the charts? Certainly not the Flaming Lips.

I hate it when people say that “Oh, Nirvana only gets acclaim cuz Kurt blew his head off.” My answer to that: Refer to the December 93 issue of NME, when they named the 100 Greatest Albums Ever, and Nevermind was ranked #12… and Kurt was still alive.

give hoponpop a medal

I have to admit, I laughed when I read what Coyne said about Nevermind…but surely what he said was merely an exaggeration. Yes, I believe that In Utero was a superior album than Nevermind, but Nevermind was the album that exposed grunge rock to the mainstream, giving it more influence than any other album at its time.

As for overrated bands, I would have to agree with what most people are posting: Most of the Doors’ stuff is overrated (except for Riders on the Storm and Light My Fire), Pink Floyd is a bit (but they’re still good), and most of the mainstream music coming out now…in a sense, pop music was doomed when it became packaged in the 60’s with groups like the ronettes and the shirelles…and i won’t mention groups like nickelback and greenday…it seems everyone before it has bashed them enough, so I’ll spare them…

GnR’s Appetite for Destruction. Good Album, but hardly mindblowing.

GnR’s Appetite for Destruction. Good Album, particularly compared to what was out at the time. Not amazing though.

Everything the Rolling Stones did after 1974 is overrated.

Nevermind however is not overrated, It brought back music that had feeling to it….not just chicks and booze like hair metal

I am surprised how many people are saying the Doors are over-rated. I am not sure what kind of critical acclaim it received but LA Women is a great album!

Nirvana is the most overrated band in history.

john mayer is painfully overrated. RS only likes him cuz hes a bush basher, which is so PATHETICALLY un rock and roll…how much EASIER can it get that to say, oh i hate george bush, save the trees, blah blah blah. and then RS claims u as a new guitar god.

oh and the doors. *Shivers* i wish they would go die in a hole. probably more overrated than nirvana.

sniff…if you cant tell the difference between bands like poison and warrant compared to guns n roses you are deaf….Nirvana was so over-rated…but like some other poster said over-rated does not mean bad…they were very good…but they really shot up in popularity after kurts suicide…at the time of kurts death Guns N Roses were still the biggest band on the planet…and to this day Appetite has outsold EVERY NIRVANA ALBUM COMBINED in the united states….nirvana was a cool band but were very one dimesional…

The problem with proclaiming albums such as “Sgt. Pepper” or “Nevermind” to be overrated is that quite aside from the obvious fact that such a label is by definition subjective, is the simple truth that these albums got their reputations for the significance they had on an era in rock.

In that light, those records can never be considered overrated. There was a pop world before and after “Sgt. Pepper” and there was most definitely a pop world before and after “Nevermind”, which simultaneously killed off two genres overnight: hair metal and Michael Jackson sheen pop. Both strains disappeared immediately.

As for what does constitute a slightly less subjective depiction of an actual over-rated record…that would have to be a record I ran out and bought based on a good Rolling Stone review, but which failed to live up to the hype, right?

“It’s A Beautiful Day” comes to mind. I found that record truly annoying, not any sort of “love era” classic. Perhaps it is too long forgotten to be considered “overrated”.

I’ll go with this: Disraeli Gears from Cream. I always believed that Clapton’s solo on “Sunshine Of Your Love” was drunkenly incoherent, and “Tales Of Brave Ulysses” was just an annoying song in the first place. Certainly Cream was a seminal band and the members virtuosos, but virtuosity is not always a virtue when it is not served well; and this band was always a bit too full of itself.

Let’s bring them down a notch and give them a “most overrated” award to keep them humble.

Appetite for destruction was the best hard rock album of all time.

I’m not dead yet Chris but if I was listening to your favorites I would gladly poke my eardrums out.

i think we’re all overlooking one point here, and i apologize if this has been said because i honestly only read about 50 posts before posting this thought- i am a huge nirvana fan and can remember like most the period of time when this album came out. one thing about these bands like nirvana, the stones, the doors, the beatles- is that their music got down into people’s SOULS. people were affected by these groups so much that there were conversations in the middle of streets about what this music meant to them and how moved they were. yeah this is a little emotional on my part but if you look at the way the entire public felt, vs the way one “professional” felt, i mean look at the RS rating of nevermind vs the public- 3 stars from the critic, 4.5 stars from millions of fans- to get a difference like that is not even close! the people spoke and we have our answer. my final point is that bands today like the white stripes wouldn’t have a chance with their sound if there wasn’t nirvana, pearl jam, soundgarden, live, etc. you really think the stripes aren’t trying to recreate that sound, weren’t influenced by cobain/grohl/novasellic? PLEASE!

oh just thought i would mention at that period of time mtv still played music!

I’d like to nominate “Layla” by Derek and the Dominos as one of the most UNDERRATED albums of all time. Only 113 on the RS Top 500? Never sold more than 500,000 copies? Incredible. This is a double-LP without a single dull moment, and very many magical ones. “Tell The Truth”, “Roll It Over”, “Keeps On Growin”…all of these songs would prove to be killer live tracks, which was obvious from the way they were recorded, with minimal overdub (Duane Allman got to the studio when he had the time, and did lay down some ‘after the fact’ solos).

What a record and what a place in time Criterion Studios had to have been that summer and fall.

The record barely made an impact upon release, but picked up some steam when the title track (edit version of course) became popular (pizza shop juke box memories on that one, for sure)…but 500,000 copies ALL TIME? That are far too few people to own such a timeless classic of dripping, molten, pure rock.

I’m lost, if you don’t like a band their whole catalogue is overated, that’s stupid. Didn’t this start with Nevermind, isn’t it the Holy Book of Seatle

I don’t think Nirvana was overrated when they were around. Of course they became overrated after Cobain’s death, being blown out of proportion big time, just like Bradley Nowell of Sublime. Great bands, but people make them out to be phenomenal when a tragedy happens within the band. Every death makes a band exponentially greater in the eyes of the fans…and as hard as it is to say this being the huge Beatles fan that I am, it even goes for John Lennon.

For those that think Phish are overrated, let me clue ya…they are the most underrated band of the last twenty years. No one has been more musically dedicated than Phish, and it required no commercialization for them to become what they were.

Icky Thump…………Icky Crap!!!

Nevermind is a decent album…..but Kurt Cobain? Geez! How can you make a Martyr out of somebody who went out like a chump? It puts their efforts in a bad light

Long live Wayne Coyne. After reading that quote I’m going out to buy some of his albums just to support him.

Nirvana is in their own class of overrated bands. Guys like U2, The Rolling Stones and others who have been called “the greatest rock bands on earth” are all way overrated, no doubt about it. But at least they are GOOD. Very good, in fact.

But Nirvana? They just suck. Always have, always will.

Kurt didn’t go out ‘like a chump’. He had a bipolar disorder, drug addictions, depression and people watching every second of that due to fame.
That would make a much healthier guy than Kurt consider his options.

60’s – Pet Sounds/Sgt. Peppers
70’s – Led Zep IV/Dark Side Of The Moon
80’s – 1984/Diary Of A Madman
90’s – Nevermind/Ten

enough said!!!

Someone said “Sandinista”?? What a dumb thing to say. You’re free to like it or not, but in order for it to be OVERrated it has to have been WELL rated. It wasn’t – it got alternately knocked and ignored.

My own candidate for most overrated:

The Velvet Underground and Nico. Of VU’s four albums, it’s by far the worst (”I’m Waiting For the Man” and “Sunday Morning” notwithstanding). Even White Light/White Heat is better. Yet VU & Nico gets ALL the props.

Nevermind:
Overated? Maybe
Brilliant? NO!
Right timing? YES!!!
It was ‘91 and eveything was overproduced, and reeking of hairspray.
I was just the right F.U. to all the pretty things.
Just like Appetite for Destruction.

Lets forget all this and look to the future – a future in which Amy Winehouse is already forgotten -

Nirvana is totally overrated. Dave Grohl is a much better singer/songwriter/guitarist than Cobain.
Cobain is now a product/industry (t-shirts posters, etc.)since his death. He was never that good.

Nevermind is one of the best alternative albums of all time. Not only was it ultra orginal for its time, ” comming out of the crappy glam rock phase”, but kurt cobain was a real F’in poet not everyones overrated idol jim borrison!

Nevermind is one of the best alternative albums of all time. Not only was it ultra orginal for its time, ” comming out of the crappy glam rock phase”, but kurt cobain was a real F’in poet not everyones overrated idol jim borrison!

Overrated? I don’t know a single song/album/artist that starts to feel stale after months or even weeks of heavy rotation on US and worldwide radio stations. Do the talent and creative output of a single person or creative entity live up to the cult of personality that the music industry uses to market their products? No way. Just be happy that these artists feel free to actually make art and not give into the silence that this whole peanut gallery of naysayers attempts to screech them into. Pitch-corrected Pro Tools fools being labeled as rock gods in order to facilitate a successful tour, so what if their fart art makes people feel something? Opinions are like assholes…

Just from what I’ve read and the way that the “overrated” tag gets so easily thrown on certain bands like Nirvana, it leads me to believe that the people saying it are the very people responsible for keeping the plasticene, mass-produced, wanna-be-pop-star garbage from HELL on Billboard’s charts for the last 20 years.

Dark Side of the Moon? Sgt Pepper?!

If you don’t like the bands, fine, but to say that these albums are even slightly overrated is proof positive that you probably, in your lifetime, paid money for a Warrant album and it is likely still in your current music rotation in your ‘86 Camaro. Nirvana broke down so many walls, and I guess only those of us that were around and had endured the God-awful atrocity that was 80’s music can understand and appreciate them. Or maybe it’s just me…

Whatever the case, put down the pipe, folks. Emo will be dead soon enough and you’ll have to find something else trendy to listen to.

Dave grohl doesn’t deserve to lick the creative stains from Kurt’s bed sheets. Better Voice? Please tell me you’re either retarded or kidding, what a jerk off. Have you heard In Your Honor, the worst album ever is what they should have named it. Foo Fighters are good, but they don’t even belong in the same sentence as Nirvana unless it’s a chronological account of the band’s Grohl has been in

Dave grohl doesn’t deserve to lick the creative stains from Kurt’s bed sheets. Better Voice? Please tell me you’re either retarded or kidding, what a jerk off. Have you heard In Your Honor, the worst album ever is what they should have named it. Foo Fighters are good, but they don’t even belong in the same sentence as Nirvana unless it’s a chronological account of the band’s Grohl has been in

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Whoops! Meant to say I don’t know a single song/artist/album that DOESN’T begin to sound stale after heavy rotation.

Youarealltonedeaf, if you are refering to the list I made:
(60’s – Pet Sounds/Sgt. Peppers
70’s – Led Zep IV/Dark Side Of The Moon
80’s – 1984/Diary Of A Madman
90’s – Nevermind/Ten)
That was a list of the defining records of those decades from my point of view, I wasn’t dissing them.

Anything I don’t like is overrated.

I’m a fan of the beatles manily i like to play there songs on guitar but i acutally think that sargent peppers is overrated. I am a Radiohead fan and i think Kid is as well.

I’m a fan of the beatles manily i like to play there songs on guitar but i acutally think that sargent peppers is overrated. I am a Radiohead fan and i think Kid A is as well.

man, this shotgun has a real kick.

First off, Im from just outside of Seattle and went off to college in 91 right around the time this whole “grunge” thing blew up. All you heard at my school was Nevermind or 10 or Soundgarden and Alice in Chains everywhere you went. Just cause Kurt happened to pass and their music got even more popular should not discount the fact that Nirvana was a special band with a unique sound. As for most overrated bands I would have to toss Blind Melon in as my vote. And dont forget, layne staley died and AIC records didnt suddenly start flying off the shelves and their popoularity didnt increase. But make no mistake about my comments, I am a huge Alice fan…Layne had a voice like no other.. Mad Season was one of the greatest albums I ever heard… I know they didnt come out with a new album after he died but still….another overrated band…Rage Against the Machine…cool band but one dimensional…and I have almost all their stuff…im such a sucker…man, and Audioslave too…saw it coming…sounds just like Rage with Cornell on vocals and Morello making his guitar sounds like a freight trian and then a cat and then a foghorn…cmon…

AIC albums didnt fly off the shelves when Layne Staley died because AIC was already 10 years past their prime……

AIC albums didnt fly off the shelves when Layne Staley died because AIC was already 10 years past their prime……

I have to agree with everyone who has commented about the Doors. All of their music is overrated.
“There’s a killer on the road
His brain is skirming like a toad.”
Are you serious?

What many of you testes out there don’t realize about The Doors is that they were NOT overrated. In fact, they were slagged with increasing intensity for their perceived pretensions (especially the singer’s) by just about every contemporary music publication and critic with every move they made… and that was before Jimbo made the ultimate career move. The only people who rated them highly were the fans, and even they were deserting the Crystal Ship before it sank. Dying was probably the only logical move left for him; he had created his character, indulged every Dionysian aspect of it possible and finally couldn’t handle the load. Yes, the lyrics were often silly and sometimes downright embarrassing; anyone who envisions themselves as a poet has no place in rock– the pretensions inherent in the form belong on the pages of little literary pubs, where even the most overblown and senseless symbolism appears proper or even mandatory. On the merciless surface of the vinyl, the deeper you try to sound, the more you will get heckled for your efforts by the intelligensia (the critics) and the anti-intelligensia (the types of fans who have been populating this blog, who can conjure up no deeper cut than saying something “sux.”) I’ve been a Doors fan for a long time, but I can see through their act as well as anyone. But what redeemed Morrison and the band–and continues their hold on the listening public’s imagination– was their sound, which still holds a unique quality that has been endlessly assimilated, if not imitated, by those who have come since. Ray Manzarek and Robbie Krieger were genuinely talented musicians with a quirkiness to their basic sound that still cuts through the static 40 years after the fact; the cheesy organ and jazzy, urbanized slide guitar made the music unmistakably The Doors, and the chewy melodies that they and the aforementioned Mr. Morrison concocted, often by themselves assimilating and imitating their predecessors (Bach in the organ intro to “Light My Fire,” Herbie Hancock’s “Watermelon Man” in “When the Music’s Over,” the Kinks in “Hello, I Love You,” etc.), still jump out of the radio when they come on, and people listen, even if they snort smugly. And you can say what you want about Jimmy’s poetics, but his voice was (and remains) undeniable. That baritone was unique; it could evoke Sinatra on the ballads and morph into the screams of the self-damned on the rockers, and it is the element of him that defies the laughter all these years later and still makes the band a force to be reckoned with– still a major commercial force more than 35 years after he flamed out. I personally think he was laughing at himself; he was incredibly insecure and self-destructive, but he still means more than KC and the rest of that ilk. Laugh all you want, but The Doors will still be around when Kurt finishes his steady dissolution into a footnote.

This article gave me one more reason to think the flaming lips are one of my favorite bands and think even more that nirvana is overrated. oh yea… rolling stones and u2 are the most overrated bands of all time period.

“There’s a killer on the road
His brain is skirming like a toad.”
Are you serious?

I am, I love those lyrics, the music and Jim’s voice. It is a great song but I also love Pink Floyd and RHCP lyrics as well, so it could be that I am just a demented person.

Look at our time era. Yes, if Nevermind was released now it could have been deemed as overrated.

But it wasn’t. Nirvana released Nevermind when Motley Crue was kickstarting hearts and GnR was singing about a city I would very mmuch like to visit. Through the hair metal and guitar riffs people were starting to tire of, Nirvana set the bar as to what Metal is now, and will be looked at as a band to compare one’s self to, much like The Beatles were in their era.

So let me as you this. Would metal be the way it is now if some of the grunge bands (namely Nirvana) never made it? Answer is no.

As mentioned prior to my comment, Nirvana broke down walls only a very select bands have done. That in itself doesn’t make them overrated. If they came out now, yes it would be a tired sound. But listening to them when it was nothing but hairspray and makeup was a breath of fresh air.

No, Nirvana is not overrateed. With them, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, etc., they revolutionized metal for the new millenium. Love them or hate them, you can’t deny the fact that they brought rock to a new level. A level beyond hairspray and makeup.

Bravo on the Doors assessment!

People, for whatever reason, sometimes tend to read too deeply into lyrics and end up looking for some kind of hidden meaning, and when they don’t find it, turn their backs on it. From all accounts that I’ve read and/or heard, Jim WANTED people to listen to the words and take whatever they wanted from them. He did tend to use worn poetic devices at times, but as a word man, he was brilliant. The Doors will be around and will remain relevant(and yes, folks…they ARE still relevant) for another couple of decades. Listen, or don’t listen, but don’t turn a deaf ear to things that you can’t understand.

There is something else that I neglected to mention earlier in my entry. The Flaming Lips are in a class by themselves. Absolutely brilliant musicians/songwriters, and I daresay that if it weren’t for them, my mind would not be anywhere near as open as it is now to new bands who are trying to do different things. It kind of surprised me that Wayne would call Nevermind “overrated”. It is certainly a great album with a lot of power behind it. I will concede that it does have a certain glossy sheen to it in terms of production, and that is something that Kurt himself expressed his disatisfaction over more than once. In Utero was a much more raw sounding record. Even if you hate the band and swear that they had no talent, you can’t deny the energy they put out.

A piece of advice for those who would rather follow the herd and listen to whats popular with the crowd: Open your ears as well as your mind. If you don’t like something, move along, but give it a chance first. You might be surprised. There are a lot of great bands out there who will never get their due, but are making some truly beautiful music.

Wayne Coyne : the guy who never released a good album, the guy who wrote She dont use jelly and played it on Beverly Hills 92000.

I say we burn his hometown. Nevermind not that good? Uh well its a perfect album just like In Utero is. And no theyre no overrated since most ppl dont list it or even talk about it that much.

Overrated albums :
ac/dc back in black
Sergent Pepper (Magical Mystery Tour and the White Album are better)

I belong on this list of the over-ated. I am fat.

How many awful and mediocre bands has nirvana influenced? Just about every one that is on the radio. Their music is constantly being shoved down your throat whether you are listening to it or not. The bands they influence range from the worst (Staind, seether) to the terrible (Hinder,Nickelback,Evanescence etc.) . How can a band be considered the greatest of all time when they are one of the main causes of terrible radio today. And don’t even try to tell me the flaming lips suck because they have done more with the talent that they have than any band in music history. I saw one of the most amazing live shows I have ever seen at bonnaroo which upstaged every other band there including The Police. Flaming Lips are a blessing while nirvana has cursed us all.

nirvana was so real. they were about the music, not hype or money. i mean that’s why kurt killed himself. too much attention-he couldn’t handle it. he just wanted other people to hear his music.

Monsueir, though I’m all for the serial arson on Coyne’s hometown, Back in Black an overrated CD? Come on now, you can pop that CD in at any party and everyone will enjoy it. Though their tunes get a little dry after the radio molested them, it’s still a real good one.

On another note, as far as overrated albums go, Elephant anyone?

Pink Floyd – The Wall
Beatles – White Album
All Eric Clapton after Derek & the Dominoes

Oh yeah…and all Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Vladiato, to comment on your question of: “Would metal be the way it is now if some of the grunge bands (namely Nirvana) never made it?” The answer is actually not much different. Grunge never really pulled much from metal. Metal was changed by bands like Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pantera, Guns n’ Roses (more rock than metal, but definately strongly influenced). Grunge bands like Nirvana, AIC, and Pearl Jam don’t have any of the qualities of metal. Such has galloping riffs, triplets, blistering solos/dual guiter harmonies, lyrical subject manner, and especially the over the top image and attitude that metal has. The only “grunge” band that is somewhat influenced by metal was Soundgarden. If want to see how metal was influenced in the 90’s, go buy a pantera album and to another degree even Rage Against the Machine who, although totally amazing, spawned the horrible genre of Rap/metal.

oh yeah and one more thing, Appetite for destruction is not overrated, it’s one of the best rock albums of all time. When all the hair bands were making crappy power ballads and stupid shit for chicks, G n’ R went full throttle and release one of the best and most aggressive, but melodic albums ever made, putting a bullet in the head of hair metal subseqently killing instantly…..nobody seemed to notice.

Anybody who says Back in Black is an overrated record is a moron. Plain and simple; a fucking moron.

Thank you to all my loyal followers who for once and for all show jim borrison’s real perception…. stupid, boring, and so cliche for his time! Praise be to you all!

P.s. missionary style is sooo overrated

Overrated
-The last 20 years of the Rolling Stones
-Arctic Monkeys’ Favorite Worst Nightmare
-Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, My Chemical Romance

Underrated
-Oasis’ Don’t Believe the Truth. This was their best album since 1995’s Morning Glory (which is by the way the greatest rock album of the 90s along with their debut, Definitely Maybe. Sorry Nirvana).

I’m disgusted with all the people who are hating on “Ok Computer,” that is a beautiful album that changed the course of music (more so in Europe than in the US). Because of it bands like Coldplay, Muse, Keane, and Travis are around today… though we could all live without them. I’m just saying that we have to look at it from the Brittish point of view, cause Americans obviously prefer the harder rock of “The Bends” even though it’s not as good of an album as “Ok Computer”.

Point read and taken, B. Though I’m going to have to agree to disagree with Nirvana not being as influencial. However, I wholeheartidly agree with you about Pantera. Definetly a lot of inspiration in the heavy metal/hardcore genres.

Avenged Sevenfold (before City of Crap. I mean Evil) even said much of their inspiration came from Pantera.

I’m adamant in my position as far as Nirvana goes, but I much thank you for a healthy response to my post, and not some juvenile hissy fit from some pre-teen who thinks Fall out Boy is God’s gift to earth. For that sir, I thank you.

Gremlin,

I agree 100% with your assessment of “OK Computer”. I had been, at one point, just a casual fan of Radiohead. “Pablo Honey” and “The Bends” came around at just the right time for me and I really enjoyed them both. “OK Computer” grabbed my attention and I’ve been a rabid supporter of them ever since. Fantastic album worthy of any and all the acclaim it gets.

In Utero is a much better album than Nevermind. In my opinion, Kurt was a sloppy guitar player and just an average songwriter. I’ve always thought that when a band is in the throws of addiction that they make much better music. Case in point, Aerosmith were at their creative zenith when the drugs were flowing freely. Night in the Ruts kicks ass harder than anything that came after.

My God, reading through the comments posted here was really upsetting. People were knocking bands like Radiohead, Queens of the stone age, Pink Floid, the Beatles. Being overrated is basicically one band getting a little luckier than another. There were plenty of bands doing what Nirvana did before and around the time of Seattle scene, but Nirvana’s music struck a chord with the mass population. Did they deserve it? Yeah, why not. Kurt copied the Unplugged in New York sound from Mark Lanegans first Album “the Winding Sheet” on which he made an appearance. And why not, its a good sound, and Lanegan doesn’t seem to mind. Every band out there was influenced by somebody! Everybodies hating on “Emo” at the moment like its a disease. MCR and Fallout boy are popular at the mo because a lot of kids can identify with them. I mean, its not like their inadequate musicians, they can play their instruments! Fallout boy used Saves the Days sound as a platform to begin with. Fallout boy become famous rock stars, Saves the day do not. In my opinion most famous bands are overrated to a degree, but I wonder if much loved artists that are considered underrated would be considered overratted if they had made it big time.

As for whom I think is overrated. Almost every famous band/artist out their today I guess. But hell, that do I know, Im an actor not a musician!

aw, its cute how all of these people think this actually matters.

People who think anyone reads past the the third line of their 100 line comments are over-rating themselves.

Any piece of garbage music to come out since the year 2000. Everything is overproduced and these days a street juggler or mime can get a record deal. But I will have to admit, Greenday’s American Idiot is overated. A cheapshot poser punk emo/softcore sellout record that is an insult to true punker’s that have to watch all these youngsters/emo kids grow up being coaxed into thinking this is punk music. Its “SELLOUT MUSIC”.

supremely overrated:

Beck – Odelay

The Doors

RHCP – everything after Mothers Milk

people keep on arguing Nirvanas importance by saying how they “changed” music…you are right…they made rock music sooo mediocre that a bunch of bands followed suit therefore allowing rap music to take over the charts for the next 15 years…way to go kurt…

Word, Vladiato. I as well respect your opinion. Not everyone can have a spirited debate on music without digressing into cheap shots.

To the person who stated that Kurt was a sloppy guitar player and a mediocre songwriter, I think Kurt himself would most assuredly agree. He went on record many, many times as saying that he never thought himself a good guitar player. As for being a mediocre songwriter, you clearly missed the point. Most bands with that kind of sound rely on loud, crunching guitars with melody being a complete afterthought. The guy could throw a nice hook into his music when he wanted to, and those hooks have sold quite a few million records, and he still had all the volume and energy that were necessary to get your attention.

As for “Emo” and kids liking it because they related to it, that was the very thing about Nirvana that got me into the music. I was 19 or 20 years old when Nevermind came out, and it was a gift from the gods for me. I related to it completely. Whats the difference between then and now? There is none…I just hate Emo and the bands that play it.

By the way: Punk? It’s been dead for many, many years. Anyone putting a punk tag on any current band or piece of music is sorely mistaken. Punk was an attitude, a sound that can’t be described, and what is called “punk” today is a far, far cry from what it was really about.

(sorry for my English)
The Strokes, The Hives, The Vines, The White Stripes… ALL that retro-crap, garage-crap, or whatever it´s called nowadays. I can´t recall ANY of the songs that made those “bands” “famous”. And we where told they were going to save rock…
Regarding Nirvana, who seem to be the hot topic here, they sucked. Badly. Cobain smashing his guitar was aparently worthy of more respect than Page tuning it and actually playing it. And that awful voice… Clearly, the guy became a hero after his death. Think of all those people in rock history that are considered “revolutionary” now: Hendrix, Joplin, Lennon, Cobain. What do they all have in common? Yeah. If Trent Reznor would have committed suicide during the Spiral years, he would be even bigger than Cobain. Instead, he kept on writing good music and actually making a difference.

More over-rated stuff:
*Punk in general
*Norah Jones
*U2’s “How to dismantle afadffds” (sounds like Bono wrote the melody to “Vertigo” while taking a dump)
*Coldplay (decent first album, then they became a caricature of themselves).
*The Rolling Stones (everything after the 70’s)
*Oasis
*RHCP after “Californication” (great album)
*Madonna

Way under-rated:
Queens of the Stone Age. Maybe Josh Homme should put a bullet in his brain. That makes you a better musician.

Nirvana was far from overrated. They were a great act, although I must admit Nevermind’s legacy is somewhat overdone. Then again many acts out there have legacies that are overdone, including practically all the big ones dredged up in the top 20’s, top 50’s, etc. lists.

I don’t think a single person worth his salt would dare to compare Cobain to Page in terms of talent. They are from two different universes as far as guitar playing goes, and to think anyone would ever genuinely say otherwise and expect others to believe it just shows that you are making things up as you go.

As for artists dying and becoming more famous, is that their fault? Blame the record buying public. It is well known that our society is a sentimental one at times, and when an entertainer goes off planet and people related to them or their music on some level, it tends to bring out sentiments.

The “revolutionary” people you mentioned…what do they have in common? All of them are infinitely more talented than Trent Reznor, who makes his money pushing buttons on a computer keyboard. And this is coming from somebody who likes NIN, but him passing would not make as much of an impact as Kurt Cobain. Trent’s music attracts a limited audience, and lets face it…his last few efforts have been less than stellar.

QOTSA? Dude please…they are part of the same “retro” garbage that you spewed your venom over as being overrated.

Queens Of The Stone Age. I don’t get what the big fuzz is about; I mean, not a bad band, they have 4 or 5 great songs per album, but the dynamics on their albums are quite repetitive and not that good indeed. And they are the revival of rock, as I’ve read?
I haven’t tried “Era Vulgaris”, though, gonna see if there’s some change.
“White Blood Cells” by The White Stripes. I prefer Elephant or Get Behind Me Satan to that… That album is absolutely overrated, I used to like it but then it got a bit too “muddy” for my liking (except for some five songs)

And yeah, Sgt. Pepper, despite being great, is not even close from being the best Beatles album… Yeah, it’s important to pop and psychedelia and yadayadayada but Revolver, The White Album, Abbey Road… much better!
Anyway, we owe that cover the inspiration for Frank Zappa’s “We’re Only In It For The Money”… thanks!

Brad Pitt said:

“In my opinion most famous bands are overrated to a degree.”

Nailed it.

Ever since I heard Tool, most of the other contemporary bands seem over-rated to me.

Wow. Looks like I’m not the only one who thinks Nirvana was the begining of whiny miserable bands singing about breaking up with their girlfriends and how much they hate themselves. I feel a lot beeter about humanity right now.

Oh, and for the person that said Guns and Roses were rags to riches?
You do know that Saul Hudson (AKA “Slash”) went to Beverly Hills high school with Lenny (My parents are famous actors) Kravitz, Right? And yes, GNR were a hair band. I have the Circus Magaine photos from 1989 to prove it. They were a pretty talented hair band, but a hair band nonetheless.

Nirvana sang about breaking up with girlfriends and about how much they hated themselves?!

By all means, provide some examples

One final word on this: The following quote comes from someone who has been repeatedly tagged as overrated in this discussion, but I believe this to be a very profound and accurate bit of insight

“I’ve always hated comparisons. They are a shortcut to thinking”

For the Dude:
There were others who “whined” before Nirvana showed up. (Nearly every sensitive 70’s singer-songwriter, for example, and

Blaming Nirvana for the spate of clones is foolish. Any influential act inspires bad imitators as well – Dylan and the people I mentioned, Zep or Aerosmith (take your pick) and GNR, even the Stones and the crappy 70’s blues rock acts.

Youarealltonedeaf: I don´t want to start another useless debate. I just want to make myself clear on some of the thoughts I expressed in my comment.
As for the fact that musicians become bigger after their deaths, I didn´t want to imply (I don´t think I did, anyway) that´s their fault. Of course it isn´t: they´re death. Society overrates artists. I think that an artist´s work is seen in a whole different way after the artist´s death. It´s this “Imagine what could have been if Kurt didn´t die” speculation. What could have been? Well, music could be better now, or worse, or the same. But just because the guy died in the peak of his carreer, it doesn´t mean his next album was going to change music forever. And when you hear people worship Cobain, you can tell they picture the first scenario.
Regarding the talent of the people I mentioned, it´s pointless to argue. I may have used the wrong words -my bad-, but I didn´t want to mean they where lame. I just don´t think they were THAT good. They were different. The fact that they died made them, in my opinion, better than what they were (that speculation I was talking about).
A few thoughts on Reznor´s talent: I do think he´s a better musician than Cobain. To say that “he makes his money pushing the buttons on a computer keyboard” is way wrong, specially if you like NIN. If you appreciate and understand Reznor´s music, you should know that a computer is no substitute for talent. Just get Fruity Loops or whatever and try to come up with the next “Closer” by pushing buttons. It doesn´t work that way.
And by “retro-crap” I mean those bands trying to rip off The Who and contemporaries. It´s okay to be influenced by other artists, by the whole point is to push music forward, not to play exactly like they did 30 years ago. That´s why I don´t put QOTSA in the retro bag. They sound “old”, but they don´t steal anything from anyone.

Sonic Youth – ‘Daydream Nation’
Velvet Underground – ‘White Light/White Heat’
Aerosmith – ‘Toys in the Attic’
Alice Cooper – ‘Love it to death’
Metallica – Black album

And as far as Queens of the Stone Age goes, they lost their cojenes when they booted Nick Oliveri.

Nirvana rocks. You know who else rocks? The Flaming Lips.

In Utero is a full-fledged, mind-blowing masterpiece and Nevermind ain’t far behind.

Also, The Soft Bulletin is a full-fledged, mind-blowing masterpiece and Yoshimi Battles ain’t far behind.

And when we, the young and smart, fight among ourselves about which flavor of authentic rock&roll we prefer, the corporate villains who bring us Nickelback will continue dominate youth culture.

The most provocative: Coyne compares Nirvana’s Nevermind to Nickelback
This is really retard. That’s like saying Michael Jordan is overrated because Harold “Baby Jordan” Miner sucked.

Over-rated albums:
The Wall-Pink Floyd
Axis Bold As Love-Jimi Hendrix
Some Girls-The Rolling Stones
Led Zeppelin-Houses of the Holy
Springsteen-Born In The USA
Eric Clapton-Unplugged (or whatever the title)

As far as The Rolling Stones being mentioned several times, post “Exile” I would agree. A whole bunch of lousy live albums, numerous studio albums with no more than an interesting track or two … However, from 1966 to 1972- six short years, no band or pop/rock artist EVER has produced a wealth of studio output in a comparable time frame, or even comes close: Aftermath, Between The Buttons, Flowers, Satanic Majesties, Let It Bleed, Beggars Banquet, Sticky Fingers, Exile, as well as classic singles such as Honkytonk Woman and Jumpin’ Jack Flash biding their time between albums.

An unprecedented, relatively short span of creativity that they’ve managed to milk for 35+ years and counting. For better or worse, no small feat.

lol at all the people grouping Nirvana with Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Screaming trees, etc … just because they are all punk bands. Nirvana was punk based, Pearl Jam hard rock, Soundgarden hard rock, and Alice in Chains metal. The common element between all these bands is that they are all heavy, and grunge is just a general term people used to describe the music enjoyed by youths in the early 90’s.
Radiohead’s OK Computer changed the way music was listened to and produced, yes it had elements of Pink Floyd in it, but it was amalgamated with the popular music in Britain at that time to create something that could stand on it’s own.
No music is overrated, it’s just that some music I understand while others don’t, and some music was understood by others but not me. I personally hate crap like Spears and Justin Timberlake, but apparently it was enjoyed by legions of teenage boys and girls, which is simply a generation I do not understand, and won’t attempt to.

There are two different kinds of “overrated”:

(1st Kind) “Pet Sounds” Overrated: Is this a good album? Yes, I’d even say it’s excellent. Is it the second best of all time? No.
(ex. Sgt. Peppers, London Calling, etc)

(2nd Kind) “American Idiot” Overrated: Is this album good? NO!!! So why do people buy it? The world may never know.
(ex. Slippery When Wet, anything by KISS, etc)

Whoever posted as “punk&hippie should be friends” hit the nail on the head. Since this is art that we’re talking about what should be deemed as “good” lies mostly in the ear of the beholder. That being said, I would argue that there is a definite lack of value in music which seems to be born purely for profit (i.e. Britney, P-Diddy, etc.).

Wayne Coyne’s criticism of of Nirvana is more telling of his philosophical leanings than his art critic honesty. I’ve heard him make similar comments about artists like Beck as well and I think I have Wayne figured out. His libertarian/optimist/everythin g is beautiful mindset lurches whenever an artist’s lyrical content lies elsewhere. So if your artistic aesthetic is dark in nature or perhaps truthful about uncomfortable subjects you’re pretty much written off. Of course Wayne Coyne has made money as an artist for how long now? We should all have the luxury of this rock star perspective.

Another thing that lends to this kind of criticism is people who have a phobia for the popular. In this way groups like Nirvana have been a victim of their fans’ demographics. They can’t help it if plenty of stupid people like their music as well. “In Utero” really was a rock masterpiece but I personally know people who love hard rock & punk music who wouldn’t listen to Nirvana anymore because “Nevermind” was popular. Now that’s just stupid. Imagine quitting Radiohead after the “Creep” single was popular or even “OK Computer”. Bad move, huh?

Lastly, what really blows are all these stupid lists. This is art we’re talking about. Art is here in the world to be used by humans for enjoyment. Why would you want to ruin our enjoyment of music and bands like “The Flaming Lips” by calling our attention to the character flaws of Wayne Coyne?

MOST OVERRATED ?

“BAT OUT OF HELL” MEATLOAF….THIS ALBUM WAS CRAMMED DOWN MY THROAT SINCE IT CAME OUT…..

“TEN” PEARL JAM…..NEVER BOUGHT A COPY, BUT KNOW IT (UNVOLUNTAIRLY) FROM BEGINNING TO END…SHUT UP EDDIE !!!!

Shit, most of the people on that list are from terrible bands that could never measure up to the stuff their trashing. The Flaming Lips? The Hold Steady? Who gives a shit what they have to say. Billy Childish kicks a lot of ass though.

Anybody who thinks Kurt Cobain was mediocre is an absolute moron. His lyrics were poetry set to song. If you read them with any wit of intelligence, you would see how well he understood the human psyche. Most bands are just narcissistic punks without any original ideas, but Kurt was an original, unlike most of you punks.

Anything by:
Fleetwood Mac
Steely Dan
Genesis (post Gabriel)
All Smashing Pumpkins after Siamese Dream

I agree that some of these albums are overrated. I think that people generally misunderstand what is meant by a “great album.” They talk about how great the album is, when they are really talking about the musical shifts that they portend.
Sgt Peppers is not the “best” beatles album, but is very experimental and predicted great shifts in music. The same is true off Nevermind and Ten. The preceding is the better of the two albums, but Pearl Jam went on to create much greater music in the long run.
The great tragedy of Kurt Cobain is that he killed himself before he ever got a chance to expand on what was a great idea and a unique sound in rock and roll.

Whoever said the Doors are overrated is an absolute frickin moron.

I’m surprised the crackhead who said that didn’t pawn his computer for some rocks yet.

After scanning the comments, apparently there are a lot of crackheads.

The most ironic post was by someone claiming the Beatles were not overrated in the slightest yet the doors were completely overrated

LOL talk about irony.

The people who claim the Doors are overrated apparently don’t realize that as time goes on the Doors’ fanbase grows at a greater exponential rate than any other band from that era.

The Doors were extremely underrated during their time. The acclaim they now receive is on par for what they deserve.

Anyone who disagrees needs to first go listen to their songs that weren’t singles such as Spanish Caravan, Peace Frog, Waiting for the Sun, Land Ho, etc. then attempt to say they are overrated

Same can be said for anyone who writes off Hendrix as overrated. They’ve only heard “Smash Hits” on their local radio station, and as a result, he gets the tag given to so many of his contemporaries from people who are too narrow-minded to listen to something other than singles.

not a thing by Radiohead is overrated…not a thing….sex pistols are more pop than Brit Spears…Loveless is one of the best damn albums ever made…Nirvana deserve the credit they get…oasis can suck on shit…and Yellow house by Grizzly bear is tits…indie rock is where its at

i dunno if i said what i wanted to say….try to find an album like kid a or amnesiac by Radiohead…TRY!!! the beatles are overrated and radiohead is the best band of all time hands down!

The Doors are painful to listen to. Rob must pine away with his Doors LP for the good ‘ol days wishing that there were more harpsicord solos in rock. What a loser. Find a new torch to carry, Rob.

Sigur Rôs – () .. Just because it’s “authentically Scandi-ethnic” doesn’t mean it’s not run of the mill.

Prince – “Dirty Mind”

NIN – “Downward Spiral”

Pink Floyd – “The Wall”

Pearl Jam – “Ten”

Guns ‘N’ Roses .. in general. Their music will die with the narrow generation that listens to them.

The White Stripes .. in general, and they’re especially overrated in the Rolling Stone Magazine who seems to have some sort of arrangement with the band?

Know whats overrated?

The word overrated.

Know who uses it? People who dont know any better and/or those who walk around with cotton balls in their ears

Know whats overrated?

The word overrated.

Know who uses it? People who dont know any better and/or those who walk around with cotton balls in their ears

The Beatles are a little overrated, but Radiohead doesnt have shit on zeppelin. Page is a fucking mad man when it comes to songwriting. I mean really, how do you write something like stairway to heaven, or since ive been loving you? Radiohead in no way compares to any 70’s, 80’s, or 90’s band, including Nirvana and Metallica. Nirvana is also one of my favorite bands but i will admit, smells like teen spirit is pretty overrated, and so are the who. But Radiohead still in no aspect in music stacks up to ANY of those bands.

Anyone slogging the BEATLES are too young to have been there. And it’s not because I’m too old — I can listen to Amputecture and be reminded of Ummagumma. But the BEATLES were an ERA, and when BOWIE sings “I believe in Beatles,” the rest of us get it. Play I AM THE WALRUS please.

I believe in BACH as well; anyone about to call him overrated?

Well, for overrated, how about Hail to the Thief!!

For UNDERRATED, how about PATTI SMITH!!

pixies deserves more recognition than nirvana. i also think smells like teen spirit is overrated. the video of it just make it more popular

In my opinion the most overrated album ever is OK Computer by Radiohead. I don’t understand the hype. I tried to listen to it 10 years ago, and now. But my opinion is the same: it is unlistenable noise. It hurts my ears! Sure, some people like that kind of music, let them. But why in the world did it get such a hype?!

I think Bob Dylan’s Highway 61 is a little overrated compared to his other albums like “Bringing It All Back Home” & “Blonde on Blonde”. Don’t get it is a wonderful album one of the best ever just not my favorte out of Bob’s albums.

Definitely Nirvana’s Nevermind album. Couple of good tunes that’s all. Also he’s ranked 12th on the 100 greatest guitarists. His guitar playing sounds like a heap of crap.

Bach’s Symphony in G-Minor — most definitely.

Bach didn’t write symphonies

Cravens, you are an idiot if you think GNR has a narrow fan base…isn’t that a huge generalization? I love GNR, and the few albums they made during they’re short career are absolutely amazing…appetite for destruction sounds as fresh today as it did before- I personally don’t listen to what mtv says is cool

The funny thing is all you so-called experts saying the doors albums are shit don’t even know their names it’s called most overrated albums ya wankers! Doors=great band. First 2 Albums=greatness. Personal favorite ‘Strange Days’ to quote a Door’s song ‘people are strange’ and so are all you duds! Overrated Albums try fricken ‘American Idiot’ or fallout boy or these shit new bands they suck balls.

Lets face it

Elvis
Micheal Jackson
Rolling Stones
Genesis
and everything that gets spluttered out these days as cheap replications of the classics…the wannabees-they sound like my favourites in a way that makes me sick

As for comments about metallica and evanesence- they both rock big time-evenesance has a soul-they were never overated, but much as I love my metallica, they sometimes are.

The greatest overated dudes- Led Zepplin

OK Computer is soooo much better than Nevermind.

Dudes, of course these albums are overrated, because they changed the fricken world. Sgt Peppers isn’t that good compared to other beatles stuff, except of course Lucy and Day in the life, but it was the first album ever, and nevermind absolutely killed the 90’s. Its judged not by how good it is, but by what it did, and still does if you let it. How can Nevermind not rock your fricken’ socks off, even if it isn’t their best? (and if you don’t appreciate teen spirit, you obviously don’t remember the first.. no, second time you heard it. Damn. That goes for everything. Gotta remember not to ignore the originals cause of the inspired stuff. Of course, I’ve got no grasp of Elvis etc or any classical music. Too immature I guess. That said, I don’t get AC/DC. Just can’t feel the rock to the same extent, though I know it is there.

Overrated – The Flaming Lips (If I used drugs, maybe they’d be far out, but I don’t, so I see them as the poseurs they are), The Arcade Fire (biggest hype job since Arctic Monkeys), Beck (nothing worse than a white guy who thinks he’s funky), Gnarls Barkley (who really cares, and who will care in two years?) and Radiohead.

Now I like a lot of what Radiohead has done, but they are not Gods That Walk Among Us as most hipsters claim. Most of the last four albums have been little more than bleeps and bloops.

Cindy Lauper is overrated
Dr Dre is underrated
Katrina and the Waves are totally overrated
Matthew Wilder is the greatest artist of all time
UB40 is the greatest band of all time
Rockey is overrated
Rambo is totally underrated
Michael Jackson is God
Madonna is a pop icon
The Everly Brothers are underrated
Tutti Frutti is the greatest song of all time
Kurt Cobain is dead
James Hetfield is alive

Back In Black has to be the most overrated album ever every song sound s the same and they all use the same chords it’s lame and unoriginal and to this day I don’t understand what it is about AC/DC that so many people love them.

NEVERMIND it’s a good album but IN UTERO’s way better
TEN sucked ass
HOTEL CALIFONIA and terrible song makes a terrible record
LIVE THROUGH THIS Courtny Love has no talent outside of stripping end of story
SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER SOUNTRACK horrible record disco sucks people
anything made by ABBA

NEVERMIND- IN UTERO was way better
TEN- horroble record Jeremy is the worst song ever
SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER SOUNDTRACK- crappy movie disco sucks!!!
LIVE THROUGH THIS- Courny love as no talent outside of stripping and sing like a drunken whore
HOTEL CALIFONIA- terrible song terrible record why are they so big?

all albums that came out of 2000 decade sucks

“Metallica – Master of Puppets
Led Zeppelin – IV
Queen – A Night at The Opera
U2 – The Joshua Tree
Green Day – Dookie
Pink Floyd – Wish You Were Here
The Beatles – Abbey Road
The Beatles – Revolver
Aerosmith – Toys In The Attic
Aerosmith – Big Ones
David Bowie – Ziggy Stardust
Alice In Chains – Jar of Flies
Radiohead – OK Computer

The Flaming Lips are my fav. they rock my sox.”

WHAT THE FUCK? ARE YOU BEING SARCASTIC?

Dr.Dre-The Chronic-Overrated production and notoriously wack rhymes.Usherd in the pathetic career of Snoop Dogg thats enough reason to hate this.
Dr.Dre-The Chronic 2001-Terrible album.Way below average other than eminems guest verse on “forgot about Dre” the lyrics are terible.
Snoop Dogg-Doggystyle-Boring poppy generic production and simple rhymes and lyrics.Terrible record and gets overplayed at partys I hate this
2pac-all eyez on me-Its no me against the world.Hell its not even as good as Don Killumanti or 2pacalypse now
Nirvana-Nevermind
Pink Floyd-The Wall-Some good songs I dont know its just not half as good as dark side of the moon or wish you were here.I would even take animals over this.

1- Beach Boys – Pet Sound (over extended jingle indeed sounds like a pet going potty)
2- Who – Tommy (who cares? who dont)
3- Beatles – SGT Peppers (guess you had to be there!)
4- Sonic Youth – Daydream Nation (wake up and apologize)
5- Stone Roses Debut (abomination of music)
6- Joshua Tree – U2 (3 singles and snotty posturing dont make a classic)
7- Clash – London Calling (mishmash of styles by well intended ‘musicians’)
8- NY Dolls Debut – NYD (not just anyone can be in a punk band, can they?)
9- Dark Side of Moon – Pink Floyd (pompus pretencious preening dross, the catalyst for punk rock)
10- Exile – Rolling Stones (not even keif or sir mick dig it)

ok so thats my list of main offenders:)

There seems to be a good number of people defending Nevermind. To them I say, no I don’t think it’s overrated because it’s overplayed, but because it really wasn’t great. And yes, I like grunge.

Velvet Underground – New York City always has to feel like it has a thriving art and music scene, so the writers from Rolling Stone always pick this type of shit for their 100 Most Influential lists, etc. I guess you had to be there. I’d take any Big Star record over Lou Reed. BTW, why does Lou Reed get all the credit for VU? He was the weakest link.

Anything by Radiohead sucks…..

they have only 2 good songs in their entire catalog

ANYTHING BY RADIOHEAD IS OVERRATED

People seem to think that overrated is any album that sucks…for god’s sakes, overrated means any album or band that is hailed and praised by critics, but is not as good as the critics seem to think. Get it in your head before you start talking about how overrated Nickelback or Fallout Boy or Bon Jovi are because those bands aren’t actually even considered good in the first place. I do think that Nevermind by Nirvana is a tad overrated but it still belongs in the all time top 100…just not at number 17 or whatever it was on the RS list. Anything by Pearl Jam that is “praised” for whatever reason is overrated because they suck. Ten sounds like a cat throwing up. Now two classic examples of verrating are U2 and The Doors. The Doors are horrible and old and weird and U2 are so pretentious it just gets to hard to bare. U2 do have their flashes of genius but 95% of their entire career has just been rubbish. I love Jimi Hendrix and he is the greatest guitarist ever, but his songs as bodies of work totally suck, if it wasn’t for his genuine guitar mastery, he would be non-existent. Anything the Rolling Stones did was overrated…extremely overrated!

Completely agree with Nevermind. Teen Spirit, Come as you Are & Lithium were great but after that they’d said all they had to say and the rest is really below average grunt-rock filler. My top 10:

1. Nirvana-Nevermind
2. Radiohead- OK Computer
3. Beatles- Revolver
(every critic in the world snobbishly claims it’s better than Sgt. Peppers-it isn’t. For god sakes, it starts with a three minute whine about having to pay taxes!)
4.Television- Marquee Moon
(Sorry, still not ‘getting’ it. Even after about 10 full plays)
5.Led Zeppelin IV
6.Coldplay-A Rush of Blood to the Head
7. Smashing Pumpkins- Mellon Collie
8.U2-The Joshua Tree
9. Stone Roses- Stone Roses
(Great Album, but gets bland with repeated listening)
10. Cream-Disraeli Gears (Eric Clapton’s a douche)

The Stones are the greatest by far. and the greatest PERFORMERS by far. and NO ONE can touch Jagger as a front man. And “Exile on Main Street” is soooooooo far ahead that there really is no #2 – unless you want to count Sticky Fingers/Beggars/Let It Bleed/Aftermath/Tattoo/Some Girls – or even ABB.

I think following albums are seriously overrated.
Led Zeppelin “Physical Graffiti” (The first album on their own label. They wanted more money so they threw in fillers from past years and released it as double LP.)
The Who “Tommy” (The most childish rock album I ever listened to. Yuck!)
Jimmy Hendrix “Electric Ladyland” (There are too many boorish tracks. Shameful.)

Bruce Springsteen , U2, and Led Zeppelin.

@Stones Rule

Freddie Mercury was a better front man than Mick Jagger.

And as much as I love Pink Floyd, I have to say that Dark Side of the Moon is overrated.

kurt isnt overrated by any means
if ne 1 who knew kurts work (i mean really knew hes work not just fan girls n shit like that) would tell ya that kurt wasnt worried about the lyrics of his song n he never wanted 2 explode the way he did he planed his first album 2 sell 50,000 if that but as u know he got a lot more then he could handle he was a free come and go type of person n he really did hate his job but getting back 2 his music he wanted his song 2 b as simple as possible if u listen 2 just the music of his song they r all simple beats that were thrown 2gather over all kurt is and will always be one of the top 10 greatest song artists of all time n whoever doesnt understand that is eather lieing or freakin is a freaking idiot

“Rumours” by Fleetwood Mac has always been overrated, IMO.

Don’t get me wrong – it’s a good album with a few classic tracks but it’s not the “greatest album ever recorded” as one (obviously tin-eared critic) once claimed.

What’s funny is that Lindsey Buckingham claims WAY too much credit for this album’s success. His songs are the WEAKEST ones on the whole disc! (yes, even lamer than Stevie Nicks’ stuff)

Electric Ladyland
pretty much every Beatles album (don’t get me wrong, they made great songs but could not make a solid album)
Led Zeppelin IV (It’s great, but I prefer II)
Exile on Main Street
Let It Bleed
Back in Black
The Wall
It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold us Back (I like Public Enemy, but this is mostly dulllllllll hip hop great social consciousness aside)
Master of Puppets
The Black Album
BloodSugarSexMagic

Just know I like or love pretty much every one of these bands, but these albums are just not nearly as good as people say they are. They hear two good singles and think that constitutes a good album. Fail.

SMOKE ONE FOR ME BUD!!!

SMOKE ONE FOR ME BUD!!!

Rust In Peace – Megadeth

People often hail it as the best thrash album to ever exist. No, it isn’t.

@ Cheesecrop
You suck. You’re calling 70s blues-rock bands crappy. Dude you don’t know what good music is.

What is wrong with you guys? Just look at what you’re calling overrated? Back in Black? Toys in the Attic? Led Zepplin IV? Appetite for Destruction? These are the albums that define hard rock. They have made it what it is today…

Anyway IMHO this is what it should be like

Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band (Nothing revolutionary or outstanding apart from say, 3-or-4 great songs)

Nevermind (Doesn’t deserve all the accolades it gets)

White Album (sames as SPLHCB by The Beatles)

Instead of attacking 70s legends you should be talking about the saccharine, overblown, overproduced, dizzy fluff they call rock these days.

Ohnoes its gen-x vs. the baby boomers. Nirvana was great, so were the beatles, the doors, the stones, radiohead, pink floyd, velvet underground etc.. But they are all also over rated. If everybody and their mother has heard about them, they are by definition overrated. But just because something is overrated doesn’t make it crap, just as you not liking it doesn’t make it crap.

Nevermind(Nirvana)
Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band(The Beatles)
Abbey Road(The Beatles)
The Velvet Underground And Nico(The Velvet Underground)
Pet Sounds(The Beach Boys)
The White Album(The Beatles)
Revolver(The Beatles)
The Wall(Pink Floyd)
Ziggy Sturdust(David Bowie)
Ok Computer(Radiohead)
Coldplay(e ntire catalog)

When I write this im talking about real music. Not Chris Brown or Rihanna or some sh*t like that.

Metallica is definitly not overrated. Neither are Foo Fighters. Also anyone who thinks Pink Floyd are overrated you obviously havnt seen pulse. David Gilmours solos really stand out to me.

Personally the bands/albums which I think are overrated are:

Judas Priest

Black Sabbath

Iron Maiden

The Rolling Stones (they are legends but how could anyone call them metal? Their so called “metal” music is about as soft as Lilly Alan or Gwen Stefani or something like that. Maybe they were heavy in their day when Death metal bands like Cannibal Corpse didnt exist but people from today are still calling them metal? I dont understand why. The same goes for Judas Preist and the Beatles.)

Alice In Chains – Dirt

Megadeth (hardly deserve to be in the big four)

The Beatles – Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band

The White Stripes (theyre a bunch of redneck inbreeds)

Tom Waites (hes a complete beast. He does a few songs that are really really really bad. So bad that I actually like them and theyre quite funny. Pasties and a G-String is a great example. So is Charmer by Kings Of Leon)

Kings of Leon – Because of the Times

AC/DC (most of their songs are quite similar and they drag on for too long without much change)

Metallica – Master Of Puppets

Metallica – …And Justice For All (a few legendary songs on it but still overrated)

Metallica – Kill ‘Em All

System Of A Down – Hypnotize (shouldnt of been at number one)

Thanks

To post above me (Knox)…. did you just call the Rolling Stones METAL???

Lol, get a clue man, the Stones are R&B, they NEVER did Metal. Hell, Metal didn’t even come around till the 1980s.

As for overrated albums, I’d have to go with ‘Back in Black’ and ‘Toys in the Attic’. One is horrible, unoriginal noise and the other is rock music at it’s whitest and safest.

Kanye West.. anything by Kanye West is pure crap! when is someone going to shut him up for good? i just dont understand how people like him so much.. my asshole makes better music when im shitting

Joy Division – actually i like their genre of music, but their songwriting and arrangements seem quite mediocre to me and not seminal at all. It doesn’t matter much to me, but I find they’re weak musicians as well. Also check out any live recording by New Order for confirmation…