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A few important facts were left out of the story about Win Butler and the basketball:

1 – Win had been informed prior to arriving that his party would be able to play in the courts there, and was then informed again when he arrived that his party could play there

2 – He was there with at least 9 other players who were on their way to the court from the locker room including his brother Will, and was holding the court for the group until they arrived

3 – Win had no ball with him when he left

I know these facts because I was there at the time, and likely saw more of what happened than the man who created the blog.

If he really wanted his ball, Chris H. could have contacted the band in private.

-Jesse

Bands like Wilco that have tons of critical success, but not so much when it comes to commercial success will always struggle between staying true to their music and becoming ’sellouts’. How else will anyone outside their circle of fans hear their music? Radio stations aren’t gonna play them, they’re too busy playing the latest generic pop act. So they have to start getting creative and find different ways to get the music out there, whether it’s through car commercials, tv shows, or some iPod ad or something(like Bob Dylan did).

Arcade Fire are such pretentious, humorless twits it doesn’t surprise me that they’d turn out to be jerks as well. Dude, *I* have a copy of Echo and the Bunnymen’s greatest hits too, but you don’t see me making records to advertise it!

Why is it such a big deal when rock stars are assholes? Regular people are assholes, too. Let’s do a blog about them… oh wait, that’s every blog ever. Oh well.

There should be a Weekend Rock List about The Biggest Assholes In Rock. My top pick? Axel Rose.

good for wilco

I dunno about “humorless twits”; I thought Will Butler’s arcadefiredidntstealdudesbaske tball was pretty funny.

Why do I bother,….these are such non-story stories.
Anything more interesting happening??

I don’t know, as a long time Wilco fan, and an accountant, I’m torn. Six songs seems a tad bit sell outish to me, I have to say, I’m dissapointed in them. Sky Blue Sky really is a phenominal album, I hope this doesn’t tarnish that, but perhaps that is inevitable.

I think it’s sucks about Wilco. However, they’re not U2. If fans don’t want their bands to sell their music to corporations then they need to get mad at the corporate run radio stations that don’t play Wilco, but rather homogenized crap from former micky mouse club members. The exception to this of course is Pete Townshend, who I love and admire, but he’s a total whore.

When you get your own rock band, and get to the point where a halfway cool company that produces halfway cool cars are interested in YOU (VW), then you can sit in judgement.

The fact of the matter is, “selling out” isn’t what it was 15 years ago. Radio is mainly only playing top 40, hip-hop, and R&B. MTV plays on average 3 music videos a day. You have to find other ways to get your music out there.

That lil bitch that called my cell is gonna die!

Don’t most famous people have a little bit of schmuck in them anyway? As long as they perform good live… http://www.stagefronttickets.com

Does Butler wear those ridiculous suspenders and vests when he drives the lane?

Who…the….F*#$…Cares??

what a bunch of women………

that Spratt dude just called me again!! I just sent fifty with an uzi to go smoke this beeotch! for real nowhatimsayin?

win butler is a bitch.

guy talks a good game about being all anti-materialist and operating outside of the machine, but at heart, he’s just a trust fund kid acting like a ruling class asshole. his band’s new york times piece was a joke. and despite the full court media press they put out the record blows and i don’t know anyone who likes them. except maybe bowie and amy pohler.

remember last month in RS when he kicked the interviewer out of his car so he could talk to his management company? dude was probably blowing a gasket about his thread count.

he’s a self-rightous fake.
and ultimately (it’s supposedly about the music, right?), his band sucks.

i’ll stick with the real deal with groups like fugazi (who actually lived it) and belle and sebastian who BRING it.

Win Butler seems to take himself far too seriously. I seriously doubt I could stand to be aroudn the guy.

Win Butler seems to take himself far too seriously. I seriously doubt I could stand to be aroudn the guy.

Actually, Win made a point of joking about this at the show in berkeley. People always think he’s really grumpy and stuff probably because he’s so sunken-eyed and frowning in all his pictures. Which really stands out especially since he’s usually standing next to his wife, who has such a big smile. He looks kid of surly but all actual evidence suggests otherwise.

I don’t think he stole anyone’s basketball though.

As for Wilco, please, sorry, but you do have to do other things to get your music out there now. T-Love basically said it all.

jesse,

i read on the blog before it was taken down that the band admitted taking the ball but by mistake and that it was grabbed by someone else in butler’s group.

i think chris h went public because win butler was acting like a whiny b*tch.

that’s my 2 cents.

At least Wilco didn’t sell their songs to Wendy’s. I’m looking at you Violent Femmes.

That fake eminem is wack and, for hating on his ‘idol’, he sure makes every attempt to rap just like him.

Isn’t there a law against white Canadians rapping? Somebody needs to call customs…

no law against anybody rapping in canada

It’s not customs bonehead it would be immigration, and did you ever hear of Classified, white rapper from halifax N.S( thats nova scotia)

I really don’t have much of a problem with bands letting their music be use d in commercials, but it can be embarrassing when they appear as pitchmen for a product. Anyone else ever see Adam Duritz’s spot for Tiger Balm. OMG…

Oh, one other thing: People, “whats the what?” was making a JOKE about there being a law against Canadians rapping. It’s call humor? Have you ever heard of that?

I, for one, have crossed the new Wilco CD off of my “to buy” list

Kyle Spratt is the man, a straight-up “G.” No frontin’ or representin’, just some made crazy props to all my peeps and perps. Seriously though didn’t Feminem say that there’s millions of Slim Shadys out there. Guess he just met the guy who is a tad slimmer and a toucher shader.
Why should we be surprised. The best rap and promo stunt I’ve heard in years. I think we’ve been punked.

Win looks Amish. I’m not sure the Amish are allowed to play basketball and therefore think this whole story is bunk. (How they are allowed to produce rock music which utilizes electric instruments is something I’ve not worked out, but I’m definitely sure basketball crosses the line.)

good for Kyle. he just gave Eminem a tast of what he’s been doing to others to launch his career. the song is pretty weak considering that he hates on Em but sounds just like him, but savy PR move by him!

em did that shit by pissing on teen pop girls (christina, britney, and boy bands)

50 told everyone how he’d rob them

this kid is just feeding of his idols, and now they’re pissed because he did what they did to get known, whatever it takes.

i guess life does imitate art as well as art imitating life.

How is this a sell-out? Why not use the VW site to promote the new CD? Why not use THEIR TV commerical time to have your music played?

I do love Wilco pissing off the Indie crowd, though

i’ve heard of douch ebag though reno david!

Who cares if a band sells their songs to commercials? Not all artists are rich, and most of them have families. They need money too. I know people who play music for the love of the music, but they’d love to make money doing it. I’m a big Wilco fan because of the music, and I could care less if my mom likes their song on a VW commercial. Relax people, quit putting rock stars on a pedestal that you wouldn’t stand on yourself.

I love that people are reconsidering their love of crappy Wilco now that they’ve gone and prostituted themselves. And to everyone who thinks selling your music to a company is no big deal: Talk to me in the fall, when you find yourself unable to hear ANY Wilco song without being invaded by the thought, “Drivers needed.”

If you haven’t bought the new Wilco by now, how big of a fan are you anyway to be judging them?? I doubt they’ll lose sleep over it. If Wilco’s artistic integrity is being brought into question over a VW commercial in this day and age of blatant sellouts there is no artist that you’ll be happy with.

Fuckin’ SELL OUTS! That’s what Wilco is. They can give every excuse possible but they are complete sell outs and have lost their credibility as far as I’m concerned. I’m sure they don’t give a fuck what their fans think.
As long as VW sends those checks!
“Ain’t singing for Pepsi, ain’t singing for Coke, I won’t sing for nobody, makes me look like a joke!”
This notes for you-Jeff Tweedy!

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Dude is a pretty decent rapper – and Eminem is pretty week fro pulling tht little stunt.
EMinem – quit acting like Principal Skinner!

yeah wilco really sux now. i mean, they are such tools for streaming their record for 3 months before the release, touring constantly and allowing fans a pretty fucking intimate glimpse into their recording processes (Sky Blue Sky DVD, Sunken Treasure, IATTBYH ).
come on people. if more people got off their asses and picked up the record and spread the word around, maybe they wouldn’t be in a position where they feel the need to get paid by VW.

Dude’s talking about Em’s daughter? He should die in a house fire.

eminem should pimp slap winn butler in a volkswagon ad with music from wilco.

What an idiot (Spratt).

yo EMINEN’S puttin a diss track of em on his next cd so ya no kyles doin sumtun right,, n i got respect fer kyle he went ta my high school at brennen n he got jumped fer goin ta battle young bricks,, like the kid has heart..

WTF? That Eminem song was hella good. You need to recognize a well put together song with limited resources, from canada, and it was just a good PR gag, That wasnt Eminem, well all know it, but guess what?! i bet Em hears it, and i bet that you all listened to it as well…that means his plan went perfect. suckers.