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Police Drummer Stewart Copeland Calls Reunion Show “Unbelievably Lame”

6/1/07, 1:31 pm EST

Stewart Copeland


“It usually takes about four or five shows in a tour before you get to the disaster gig,” Police drummer Stewart Copeland writes on his blog (yes, he has a blog). “But we’re The Police so we are a little ahead of schedule.” Thus reads the self-eviscerating post in which the drummer describes exactly how bad the band’s much-heralded reunion shows have been sounding to him. He explicitly details his take on the band’s second major reunion show in Vancouver with a blow-by-blow of his onstage musings (read Charles Cross’ review of the first show here). Oh, and he calls Sting a “petulant pansy.”
Here are our favorite snippets from Copeland’s post:

  • “I collect myself in the dark and start to warm up the gong with a few gentle taps. But I’m overdoing it. It’s resonating and reaching it’s crescendo before the stage has fully reached its position. Sort of like a premature ejaculation. There’s nothing for it so I take a big swing for the big hit. Problem is, I’m just fractionally too far away and the beater misses the sweet spot and the big pompous opening to the show is a damp squib. Never mind.”


  • “I stride manfully to my drums. Andy has started the opening guitar riff to MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE and the crowd is going nuts. Problem is, I missed hearing him start. Is he on the first time around or the second? I look over at Sting and he’s not much help, his cue is me – and I’m lost. Never mind. “Crack!” on the snare and I’m in, so Sting starts singing. Problem is, he heard my crack as two in the bar, but it was actually four – so we are half a bar out of sync with each other. Andy is in Idaho.”
  • “There is just something wrong. We just can’t get on the good foot. We shamble through the song ["Synchronicity"] and hit the big ending. Last night Sting did a big leap for the cut-off hit, and he makes the same move tonight, but he gets the footwork just a little bit wrong and doesn’t quite achieve lift-off. The mighty Sting momentarily looks like a petulant pansy instead of the god of rock.”
  • “We get to the end of the first verse and I snap into the chorus groove — and Sting doesn’t. He’s still in the verse. We’ll have to listen to the tapes tomorrow to see who screwed up, but we are so off kilter that Sting counts us in to begin the song again. This is ubeLIEVably lame. We are the mighty Police and we are totally at sea.”
  • “In rehearsal this afternoon we changed the keys of EVERY LITTLE THING and DON’T STAND SO CLOSE so needless to say Andy and Sting are now on-stage in front of twenty thousand fans playing avant-garde twelve-tone hodgepodges of both tunes. Lost, lost, lost. I also changed my part for DON’T STAND and it’s actually working quite well but there is a dissonant noise coming from my two colleagues.”
  • “When we meet up back-stage for the first time after the set and before the encores, we fall into each other’s arms laughing hysterically. Above our heads, the crowd is making so much noise that we can’t talk. We just shake our heads ruefully and head back up the stairs to the stage. Funny thing is, we are enjoying ourselves anyway. Screw it, it’s only music. What are you gonna do? But maybe it’s time to get out of Vancouver…”

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Moss | 6/1/2007, 2:56 pm EST

God…and how much did people pay at auction for these tix only to see a half-assed show? Oh well, like Stewart said, it’s only music.

abandonedstation | 6/1/2007, 3:36 pm EST

screw ‘em stewart! go back to oysterhead when you play bonnaroo!

Sting Stang Stunk | 6/1/2007, 3:36 pm EST

It’s great to know that after 20 years they still suck live.

mikeky | 6/1/2007, 3:36 pm EST

well, at least he’s telling the truth about sting. he IS a petulant pansy. also, a pretentious bore. :)

lay it out, drummer boy. preach that gospel.

killyridols | 6/1/2007, 3:41 pm EST

I wonder how many fans in the crowd even noticed the “problems” that Stewart was writing about. Always the perfectionist.

jill hives | 6/1/2007, 3:45 pm EST

i’ve never read anyone make fun of themselves in such an arrogant tone.
what’s lame are headbands stew, just remember that.

What's the What? | 6/1/2007, 4:06 pm EST

I think the headline exaggerates Stewart’s comments. They obviously didn’t bicker over these mistakes…and any musician knows that the types of problems he’s talking about are super common. Sure, its weird for a band of such caliber to have so many issues in one night, but its great that they can still have fun together despite these issues. That’s the type of attitude that seperates a great band from everybody else.

Eric Spivey | 6/1/2007, 4:28 pm EST

Why is it that whenever aging rock stars start to feel irrelevant and their album sales start to slump they organize a reunion tour? Ego? A last gasp before death? One final opportunity to milk their fans? I loved the Police in 1982. But I’ve moved. It’s time they did as well.

Roz | 6/1/2007, 5:18 pm EST

My husband surprised me with tickets to the May 30th concert for my birthday. I had such an incredible time! I thought it was terrific! (Even if they showed that they were human and made a few minor mistakes)We would definately go to see them again!Cheers to true musicians!

nurserock1 | 6/1/2007, 6:25 pm EST

Nice way to get people to read the article…IF THE POLICE ARE STILL TOGETHER BY THEN…
Had nothing to do with that….
I wouldn’t mind a few mistakes…hey thats music….some musicians have made careers by making good mistakes…haha
At least its not like the VH reunion in 2004 when EVH was so drunk he would babble and step on his guitar cable (wireless anyone?). The famous guitar everyone came to hear would click out and basically it was a waste of money…..should have seen that ahead of time…

nurserock1 | 6/1/2007, 6:25 pm EST

Nice way to get people to read the article…IF THE POLICE ARE STILL TOGETHER BY THEN…
Had nothing to do with that….
I wouldn’t mind a few mistakes…hey thats music….some musicians have made careers by making good mistakes…haha
At least its not like the VH reunion in 2004 when EVH was so drunk he would babble and step on his guitar cable (wireless anyone?). The famous guitar everyone came to hear would click out and basically it was a waste of money…..should have seen that ahead of time…

Markus | 6/1/2007, 6:37 pm EST

RS, Stewart Copeland didn’t call Sting a petulant pansy. He was referring to a jump Sting attempted during the show and how it might have been percieved by the audience. You practically misquoted him so you could have a good headline. Lame.

P in the M | 6/1/2007, 6:59 pm EST

Way to go Andy, keep running at the mouth like that, and no one will show up for your summer shows.

Jeff | 6/1/2007, 7:10 pm EST

Was at this show. I saw/heard some of the mistakes but they actually help – I mean, it’s a LIVE show…not a lipsynch contest…

Live..things happen, go with the flow…Sadly, Copeland seemed to be the only one having fun. As I watched the other two members, I wondered…this is day 2 and they look exhausted? Will they last? Sure wish they actually acknowledged that there was a crowd…I wish they were a bit more personable. I mean, 225 bucks a seat, – that’s 4.4 million (gross) for the one show alone! would it hurt to say ‘yeah, well, we’re back, and this next song is about….’ any kind of banter would have been nice…Still, Copeland was great to watch. Sting can obviously sing (though he can’t hit the highs anymore). Andy just looked bored.

Jeff | 6/1/2007, 7:17 pm EST

btw, I bought my ticket off ebay for 100.00, not the 225 face value but still…

Sophie | 6/1/2007, 8:31 pm EST

He needs to lighten up a little bit. A few mistales is common and half the time, many fans don’t care. I wish he wasn’t so arrogant when he talked though. I dont mind him complaining a bit, but why such a mean tone? Just stay together until the end of the August 5th show! Pretty please!

Sophie | 6/1/2007, 8:36 pm EST

I think its somewhat nice to see musicians make a few mistakes now and then. Its almost comforting…their not robots…just chill Stew.

Sophie | 6/1/2007, 8:37 pm EST

It wouldn’t be the Police if someone didn’t get angry at someone.

MS | 6/1/2007, 10:02 pm EST

It was a great read. SC is an entertaining writer, as well as being a great musician. I don’t see any arrogance here, just super-candid reporting. He criticized himself more than the others. You know there must have been some super-hot moments in there, too. It always seems worse from the band’s side of the bandstand.

sockii | 6/1/2007, 10:57 pm EST

Way to misquote and mislead all for the sake of a good headline, RS. I’d suggest everyone go visit Stew’s messageboard and read the blog in the spirit it was intended, instead of looking for vitriol and name-calling where it was all obviously meant in jest and good spirit. Read the comments from all of his fans on the post too, and you’ll see we all got the joke and the message loud and clear – it’s just the reporters who seem to have reading comprehension issues.

People looking for arrogance are more likely to find one of the most endearingly funny and self-depracating guys around, one whose big worry in the midst of all of this Wednesday night apparently was if he would disappoint resident superfan, Dietmar!

Dewey Finn | 6/1/2007, 11:16 pm EST

Wait for the RETURN OF THE MIGHTY VAN HALEN next summer!

Divemistress | 6/1/2007, 11:32 pm EST

Half-assed? What are you talking about? I was lucky enough to attend the Police’s Whisky-a-Gogo tour announcement and show in February, and these guys can play circles around half the young pups these days…what music fans don’t need, IMO, is another brace of flash-in-the-pan bands comprised of early 20somethings who think they’re really something special. Most of what I hear alleged to be new and cool is same-sounding alternaclones whose only expertise is rehashing the sound and lyrical stylings of greater bands of yesteryear.

I honestly cannot believe how many so-called rock journalists who should have known better picked up this blog post and distorted Copeland’s tone and context. Speaking of half-assed…seems to be the state of much modern mainstream journalism these days.

Hundreds of thousands of people were jazzed enough to see these guys to lay out the cash to sell out huge venues in a matter of minutes. No wonder hack journalists are looking for a story, any story, to play into the buzz. Too bad they had to find one by trashing one of the few true rock idols the country has left. Anyone who doesn’t think Copeland’s drumming is truly legendary hasn’t seen him play live. And as the fans on his website are fond of saying, “Stewart Copeland will always be cooler than you.”

The Observer | 6/2/2007, 2:00 am EST

I saw the second show in Vancouver (first full performance) and it was overall slow tempo, no upper octave vocals from sting, sting couldn’t seem to remember some songs (king of pain chords for the first verse.. lost on him). Overall you had moments that you were indeed seeing the police but missing the obvious pushes at the end of so lonely?.. not that great.

Anonymous | 6/2/2007, 2:58 am EST

Ha ha. Very entertaining Blog.

I’m sure those Police boys are laughing all the way to the bank.

As to the people who wish Copeland wasn’t so arrogant — maybe you should go to the Genesis reunion tour instead!

peace out

Spencer | 6/2/2007, 11:39 am EST

yeah, it’s unbelievably lame until he gets the paycheck after each gig.

Dugan | 6/2/2007, 10:22 pm EST

As someone who has NO vested interest in the Police whatsoever, but having heard about the blog post, I have to say that the way it is being “reported” on this blog is an utterly shameful mis-characterization of Mr. Copeland’s words. Truly one of the worst examples I’ve seen lately of the media’s simultaneous worship of and jealous contempt for celebrities. Seriously, one could cite this in a thesis.

Dugan | 6/2/2007, 11:56 pm EST

Speaking as someone who has NO vested interest in the Police whatsoever, but as someone who heard about the blog, I have to say I find this to be a tremendously shameful mis-characterization of Mr. Copeland’s words. It is a sad but clear example of the media’s simultaneous worship of and jealous contempt for celebrities. Seriously, this could be cited in a thesis.

Hmmm | 6/3/2007, 10:34 pm EST

So the Police are sucking.

What’s new??

Martin | 6/4/2007, 4:27 am EST

Jeff

“… Andy just looked bored.”

Strewth mate, I’ve seen live Police concerts (in their heyday) and numerous concert videos/DVDs and Andy ALWAYS looks bored. That’s just Andy !

Beelay | 6/4/2007, 12:33 pm EST

I just saw the show in Edmonton, and it was FUCKING AMAZING. None of the rust that was apparent in the Vancouver shows. They just rocked like it was 1983. Super tight, no major screw-ups, great energy…from start to finish. For anyone who has tickets, I guarantee you will NOT be disappointed.

Ceptor | 6/4/2007, 1:04 pm EST

Oldies revivals are never a good idea.

Ceptor | 6/4/2007, 1:04 pm EST

Oldies revivals are never a good idea.

A fan | 6/4/2007, 1:42 pm EST

I was at the show, and I have no idea what Stuart is talking about. I was blown away – three incredible musicians doing what they do best. I was shocked at just how good a drummer Stuart is, and my friends (a bass player and a drummer) were on cloud nine. A few slight technical errors don’t make a show “Incredibly Lame”.

Don Vito | 6/4/2007, 2:40 pm EST

He whines like a bitch.

John the ex drummer | 6/4/2007, 7:09 pm EST

What do you a call a guy who hangs out with a bunch of musicians?

A drummer.

How do you make a drummer’s car go faster?

Remove the Pizza deliver sign from the top.

policeman | 6/4/2007, 9:50 pm EST

I was expecting 1983 as well and as a result the Edmonton show couldn’t help but be a bit of a disappointment. However this is the Police we are talking about and they are consumate musicians who also happen to be human. Andy’s solo on “The World Is Running Down” kicked serious ass! Stewart was having a blast and Sting although a little slower and older did not disappoint…one caveat…they seriously wrecked Synchronicity II! All in all a great show and far superior to the crap they call music today!

Kurt Cobain | 6/4/2007, 10:37 pm EST

This is the only thing interesting about these three blokes playing music!!!!

Jim | 6/5/2007, 9:06 pm EST

We were talking about Stewarts comments at work this am. Most of these 20 somethingsthem did not know who Stewart Copeland was, but they all knew who Sting was. If it were not for the Petulant Pansy no one would have heard of you STUART. Jealousy is so unbecoming. Sting has one thing you will never have. Class.

Genevieve | 6/8/2007, 5:45 pm EST

Vancouver must’ve been the disaster gig because I was @ the 2nd Seattle show last night and they blew me away. I was not a big fan before last night. Their music was just part of the happy, catchy soundtrack to my 80s childhood.

Older & wiser now, I appreciate their sound because compared to what I hear today, these guys are the real deal. Genuine musicians. Maybe they’ve lost a step, but geez..Sting said it’s been 25 years – give ‘em a break. And y’know what? I believe they sound better today. Smoother, more polished. Mature. Yes, I know – because they’re older. But I’ve seen bands with more members rock the Key with just a lot of noise. These three guys rocked the Key Arena with real music.

As for Stewart’s comments, I agree RS’s take was misleading. I thought Stewart’s take on their concert was hilarious. Copeland’s got a dry sense of humor & if you watch his interviews or read his blog you’ll find someone who’s just unapologetically candid & self-deprecating. No arrogance whatsoever. He himself said playing drums was a joke. Well, he’s an awesome joketeller if that’s the case.

Police in Denver | 6/11/2007, 8:24 pm EST

It was a bad… it was real bad. The masses have no clue, either because they were drunk or they don’t “understand” music. I think it could of been a two-person band concert and it would of been A LOT better. That 60 something guy needs to go. During the concert I was thinking this was a pity concert for Sting… simply helping someone out who might need some cash in bank. I made my donation – now I’m done.

Pepethepoolboy | 6/14/2007, 1:52 am EST

I traveled to Vancouver for opening night and the vibe on the floor was amazing. Stewart’s blog is just “rock talk” and nobody noticed his issues. Followed up with the second show in Seattle with my teenage daughter as my guest…..she said “dad, the crowd sings louder than the band”……enough said.

scoop | 7/16/2007, 10:04 pm EST

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Stewart!!! You physically attack the drums as if your 20 and not 55. Went to the show at Churchill Downs. Besides the shakiness during Don’t Stand So Close, the concert was a complete entertaining, great sounding show. Thanks for the drumstick! Great souvenir.

T.Lane | 7/17/2007, 10:24 am EST

I paid 50 for my tik, and Walked into the best seats in the house !! Fate has it that I would have a nice view. what a treat. Legends.

GeKo1966 | 9/2/2007, 10:02 am EST

LOL!!!Stewart C.!!!Always the joker of the band, just came home from Aarhus in Denmark where i saw The Police live yesterday!!!I have bin a Fan of them since they started out, They are still grate live and i really like the jam sessions they throw into each song slightly modifying them…all thou i think Sting over did it with Roxane! the only thing that was missing from the whole Gig was…..The soul and spirit of The Police, the only one that had it in Him was Stewart, still one of the best drummers i have ever listen to!It was like in the old times!! Andy was sometimes having trouble playing hes solos and Sting well Sting….was a pro, but nothing more, he did not have the passion anymore, for Him it was just delivering all the great songs of the past while sipping Hes Tea in between them…Sting did not sparkle, felt like he just had the “lets deliver them songs and for fill the contract of playing 2 hours and lets get the hell out of here!
But all and all loved listening and seeing them again live after 25 years!

Natasha | 9/9/2007, 3:43 pm EST

Damn, I’d love to see them. And Stewart’s always been my boy. Go get ‘em Stewart! They remind me of the three towheaded brats my sister used to babysit!

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ms gredenko | 10/26/2007, 4:22 am EST

stewart, still so hot

sting | 2/22/2008, 11:39 pm EST

f.y. haters! you guys that have negative things to say, i’d like to see u guys get up there and do it! you probably hear the music but wouldn’t know how to play an instrument to save your lives.

Jack Walters | 8/4/2008, 4:26 pm EST

This is really an idiotic discussion. He’s openly discussing problems with the show, and criticizing his own work as much as that of his colleagues. What you fail to recognize is that they still play incredibly well even when there make a bunch of mistakes. As a drummer of 25 years, I can say that Copeland is well-known for being a perfectionist. He did mess up a few times, and he knows it, but you have to keep it in perspective. If he wrote comments on other popular bands with equal honesty, I’m sure he’d have to say things like “a train wreck from start to finish,” or “a drummer who can’t even stay in the groove.”

scotto | 8/29/2008, 7:36 pm EST

Stewart is KING, and is probably the most innovative drummer on the planet He is the heart and soul of the band and should be able to say what he wants!

scotto | 8/29/2008, 7:36 pm EST

Stewart is KING, and is probably the most innovative drummer on the planet He is the heart and soul of the band and should be able to say what he wants!

Anonymous | 2/1/2009, 1:21 am EST

do do do do do da da da do u guys get it LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

trace-0@big pond.net.au | 2/1/2009, 1:24 am EST

do do do do da da da do u people get it LIVE!!!!! long live the police XXX

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