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Lunchtime Poll: The ’90s Killed Ska

3/16/07, 11:31 am EST

You’re a highly paid professional songwriter. One night, you have a fever dream about Vikings shooting porno movies in a Cinnabuns stockroom. You wake up with a start, and realize, while splashing cold water on your face, that you’ve written a song, almost completely unconsciously. Even worse, it’s a ska song, one so catchy that releasing it would, without question, re-launch that entire movement. You stand to reap millions of dollars but…it would be like the Strokes and the White Stripes never happened. Do you get rich or keep ska buried, where it belongs?


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Scott P | 3/16/2007, 11:52 am EST

I’d go ahead and release it and wait for the next music fad to come along 6 months later and bury the re-ska.

charliemapleton | 3/16/2007, 11:52 am EST

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Sanchez | 3/16/2007, 11:55 am EST

Put it in the hands of Paul Stanley, he’ll know what to do.

jandek | 3/16/2007, 12:06 pm EST

wait ska was big in the 90s?

Ryan | 3/16/2007, 12:08 pm EST

Hey Reel Big Fish kicks ass and they are ska. Don’t fault them for the Mighty Mighty Bosstones.

Ouroboros | 3/16/2007, 12:10 pm EST

Keep that crap buried forever and never mention it again. Ever!

Cory | 3/16/2007, 12:32 pm EST

Ska is fun music. Is it artistically important? Not at all. But neither was hair metal, and people love that crap.

Also, the Pietasters are a great ska band. MMB got too poppy and over-exposed.

Captain Duck | 3/16/2007, 12:40 pm EST

Keep ska buried, bring it out as a prog-rock-opera with music by the Arcade Fire

tim | 3/16/2007, 12:47 pm EST

“ska-core” was one of the worst musical trends ever. leave it dead. remember the swing revival? almost as bad.

Brett | 3/16/2007, 12:49 pm EST

Fuck ska.

Bring back the Rolling Stones at their peak from 1971-72.

robbie k | 3/16/2007, 12:50 pm EST

the white stripes are on hiatus and the strokes aren’t interesting anymore–viva la ska.

DT | 3/16/2007, 1:21 pm EST

Ska is far too restrictive to be revived as a ganre. thats not to say that individual bands shouldn’t rule out doing a ska song or 2. How about Ween or, even more interesting, the White Stripes(w/ a horn section!)doing a song that is simultaneously garage and ska.

20,000 emeralds | 3/16/2007, 1:23 pm EST

where i come from,ska,especially in these modern times,is NOT dead. it’s just as colorful and powerful as reggae,just with fast paced guitar chords,which is not hard to tell.it just so happens,kids in the States were looking for something that can generate pop culture by becoming more “hip” that they turned to ska.
not to say that it wasn’t successful in the States in which it was thanks to Madness,MMB,etc. and especially the fact that back in Jamaica,we were ALREADY successful,but it became more of a novelty.but hey mon,that’s corporate America for you…

CHI CHI YUPPIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ass kickers | 3/16/2007, 1:35 pm EST

You’d bury the idea and get a frontal lobotomy just to prevent your mind from coming up with such terrible songs. Ska was the most contrived sense of cool. You can’t deem something to be cool by being retro. It’s like creating demand for an IPO by shady trading and number massaging to create demand. Ska was like enron, it looked cool on paper, but what built like a house of cards and fell over. Except no one walked away from ska with money, The Mighty Mighty Bosstones and Mustard Plug are probably begging for nickles by the LA greyhound station still with wallet chains, skinny ties, and buttons all over their shirts.

NEEEEEEGRO | 3/16/2007, 2:14 pm EST

robbie k, you are very stupid. the white stripes are recording an album as you type your uneducated opinions.

perfectboy6000 | 3/16/2007, 3:08 pm EST

i love ska! where i live, there are tons of local ska acts. the white stripes are amazing tho. still, ska rox!!

snoopb | 3/16/2007, 3:23 pm EST

Isn’t already as if the Strokes had never existed?? Gimme the cash while I blare my horns.

Mer | 3/16/2007, 3:41 pm EST

Excuse me? Ska is awesome and very much alive. You are all a bunch of shitty music snobs.

cheesecrop | 3/16/2007, 4:15 pm EST

Did ska ever really take off in the 90’s? The last three years or so had a bunch of little movements kick in that all lasted about a year or so. Tim hit it right a few posts back when he mentioned the swing revival, which was another 12 month fad. If I did have a great ska song I’d probably release it, but it wouldn’t end up causing any kind of mass revival or anything.

Ishmael | 3/16/2007, 4:22 pm EST

If, by ska, you mean that third generation bastardization that came about in the ’90’s, then another re-revival will just bury itself like the previous ska revival or the overrated garage revival that gave us such “where are they now?” acts as the Strokes, the Hives, the Vines, etc. etc. etc. If, however, by ska you mean Jimmy Cliff, Toots & the Maytals, Desmond Dekker, Derrick Morgan, Delroy Wilson, the Skatalites, and early Bob Marley, then (obviously) no. If you don’t know the difference between the two, you are a bigger idiot than I thought (which is saying a lot).

Mike27 | 3/16/2007, 4:38 pm EST

Fuck ska. I hated it. back in the 90s when i was in high school, it seems like every local band was a ska band. horns and rock just do not mix.

Jimmy Jazz | 3/16/2007, 4:50 pm EST

If, by ska your refer to old style Jamacian-, or even early 80’s Two Tone-ska, then the answer is yes. If you mean Operation Ivy-style skacore or Mighty Mighty Bosstones ska-metal , then the answer is yes again. If you mean something unbelieveably cheesy, like Reel Big Fish or Save Ferris, my answer is still yes. Why? Because stupid music is fun sometimes, and what would be the problem with pretending The Strokes or White Stripes never happened? I don’t care how annoying ska got for some people, no ska band has ever turned out a song that manages to be as annoying And pretensious as “My Doorbell”. And whoever called skacore restrictive may be right, but if garage revival has such a deep artistic well, how come every Strokes song sounds the same? Being from New York doesn’t automaticly make you cool folks.

Dr. Ralph | 3/16/2007, 4:56 pm EST

Millions of dollars on a ska song? You were dreaming! The question we should be answering is what the fuck is up with the lunchtime poll? Yesterday’s was unintelligible and today’s involves some homo-erotic dream… Vikings shooting porn?

Jim | 3/16/2007, 5:11 pm EST

Amen, Jimmy Jazz.

Sarah | 3/16/2007, 7:24 pm EST

agreeing with Jimmy Jazz.

Fisher | 3/16/2007, 9:20 pm EST

If ska pooted in an elevator, would anyone notice?

ACS3 | 3/16/2007, 10:49 pm EST

It certainly all comes down to personal taste. To try and say that “Ska belongs buried” as an Objective truth is flawed and, in my opinion, arrogant. You don’t like Ska. Cool. You don’t have to. But some people (myself included) do. First Wave has a fantastic history, and don’t forget, were it not for Ska, there would be no Reggae. Second Wave was almost a social movement in England, all about tolerance in the dark days of racism and conservatism. As for Third Wave, most people don’t even realize there was one. Mighty Mighty Bosstones and Cherry Poppin Daddies get lost in the Swing Revival, since the average joe can’t separate the two sounds (It’s all in the syncopation and backbeat). I suppose my point is, you don’t have to like it, but don’t go beating up on it. Opinions are like assholes: Everybody has one, but it doesn’t mean we want to see each others.

As for Jack White, he is best when doing anything but rock. Cold Mountain? Wow.

And as for retro not being cool, what do you think all these “Revivals” are? Retro. Old School. Innovation based on older styles. Every wave of Ska built on the last, just like any other musical genre.

SM FOR LIFE | 3/16/2007, 10:51 pm EST

What no streetlight manifesto love?

The new (fourth?) wave is comming. Listen to Streetlight Manifesto and love it. Love it hard. You didn’t like ska because it was cheesy poppy shit? Listen to this band.

Also, why do you people hate ska?
Bob Marley and all modern reggae is based off ska…

Buddy Hawkes | 3/17/2007, 5:29 am EST

Bring on more bands like Hepcat who know how to blend modern recording techniques with traditional sound. I’m not a huge ska fan, nor do I claim to know much about the history of it. What I do know is that I dig their brand of ska better than some of the crap that came out of the 90s.

lala | 3/17/2007, 12:24 pm EST

boo ya?

Dan | 3/17/2007, 12:31 pm EST

One question…do we really wanna call this the fourth wave?

60 years from now are gunna say the 15th wave?

I vote for a new name: Ska!. The exclamation point adds some good ol’ fashioned fun to the mix.

Also, best new ska band? Streetlight Manifesto, they blend ska, punk, jazz, and classical music into one thing of awesome.

the buynak | 3/17/2007, 1:02 pm EST

ska rules. it goes beyond genres. it is older than most music and comes from some far away place that no one except those who have skanked the night away can possibly conceive. ska never even went anywhere. you bastards who think it as a phase. that’s what the man says of all music and movements.

steve | 3/17/2007, 8:06 pm EST

No ska. Nobody likes ska.

Jason Moss | 3/19/2007, 12:24 am EST

I can’t help but respond to this because my band was associated with both the “ska” and “swing” “movements” of the 90’s.

In my experience people throw the term “ska” at any band that either a)wears suits or b)has a horn section, regardless of the music’s actual nature. It’s really the latest variation on the old rockers vs. mods trip, where people who idolize scruffy power-chord purveyors look down their noses at anyone whose sense of style doesn’t fit in with any of almighty Rock’s accepted modes, whether its late-sixties psychedelia, punk, power pop, garage…

And the real bummer is that the young miss out on hearing the real stuff that sounds as great today as it did on the Jamaican dance floors of the middle sixties.

Jason
Cherry Poppin Daddies

Str8 Ej | 3/19/2007, 5:51 am EST

The Cherry Poppin’ Daddies! NO WAY! You guys played some mean ska back when ska was still not gay. AND, you’re male parents who devirginize!

Insane Insomniac | 3/19/2007, 9:54 am EST

Hell yes! Bring Ska back!

ThePorksword | 3/19/2007, 11:32 am EST

Ska can come or go…
Bottom line; if The Strokes and/or The White Stripes never happened I would be just fine.

Katie | 3/23/2007, 8:44 pm EST

i despies ska….long live the strokes and the white stripes

helvetian2003 | 12/5/2007, 11:42 pm EST

screw ska, long live Jamaican reggae (which came first?? no idea)

White Stripes & Strokes are two of the best bands around today!!!

Lon B | 1/25/2008, 3:45 am EST

Looking for a song by a group some where in the 90’s had a ska-swing-big band appeal-sang a song about “HELL” anybody, anybody Bueller?

akhayat | 2/9/2008, 3:33 am EST

I like ska, but i admit that there are a lot of terrible ska bands out there…Not all of them though!

Oh, and anyone who says horns and rock don’t mix needs to listen to streetlight manifesto.

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