Nirvana’s Nevermind and Radiohead’s OK Computer: Arguably the two most influential and essential recordings of the 1990s. Both changed the face of music and gave fans tired of the old “Beatles vs. Rolling Stones” debate something new to nerd out about. Everyone, it seems, has a preference, and some would say that the band you prefer is a reflection of the kind of person you are. We won’t tell you which side of the fence we’re on, but we’ll give you a hint. On second thought, nevermind. If you’ve yet to settle your own internal debate on the subject, or think it bears further investigation, we have some ideas for easy home experiments that will help you make up your mind: Option #1: Pit the albums against each other head-to-head, track-by-track. Song five match up “Let Down” vs. “Lithium” is the marquee fight. Option #2: Rank each song on a scale from one to five, five being the highest grade. Add up the totals, divide by twelve (the number of tracks on both albums). Option #3: Ditch any attempt at diplomacy and just tells us where you stand on the subject, direct from your gut. We won’t hold it against you.
Rock Fisticuffs: Nirvana vs. Radiohead
2/12/07, 6:10 pm EST
Comments
John Bradley | 2/12/2007, 6:18 pm EST
No brainer, Nevermind all the way. Art rock vs. punk rock, punk rock wins everytime. Not that OK Computer is bad or anything. Luckily, we live in a world where it’s okay to like both!
... | 2/12/2007, 6:19 pm EST
Nevermind!
Joe | 2/12/2007, 6:20 pm EST
Option # 3: U2’s ACHTUNG BABY blows em both out of the water. But they are good recordings.
Taylor T-Sides.com | 2/12/2007, 6:27 pm EST
oh god, Nevermind all the way.
zach | 2/12/2007, 6:30 pm EST
heres my picks with option 2:
1. Airbag vs Smells like Teen Spirit: Smells
2. Paranoid Andriod vs In bloom: Paranoid Android.
3. Subterranean Homesick Alien vs Come as you are: Come as you are
4. Exit Music(for a Film) vs Breed: Breed
5. Let Down vs Lithium: Let down
6. Karma Police vs Polly: Karma Police
7. Fitterr Happier vs Territorial Pissings: Territorial Pissings
8. Electioneering vs Drain You: Draw
9. Climbing Up the Walls vs Lounge Act: Climbing Up the Walls
10. No Surprises vs Stay Away: No Surprises
11. Lucky vs On a Plain: Lucky
12. The Tourist vs Something in the way: The Tourist
So in my opinion i think its OK Computer but for one ive been on a Radiohead binge lately. I think both bands are influential in their own rights but in these two albums i think Radioheads better. but as john bradley said we can like em both.
JudasConstant | 2/12/2007, 6:32 pm EST
If Nirvana and Radiohead are the Stones and the Beatles, I’m going to go with The Flaming Lips (Soft Bulletin) which I guess would be the Kinks in this analogy.
Fred | 2/12/2007, 6:40 pm EST
Nevermind. I had an ‘Almost Famous’ moment with Nevermind. My cousin had upgraded from tape to CD and gave me her Nevermind tape along with a whole “this music will change your life” type spiel. Her speech easily persuaded my 9 year old brain that this was what I should be listening to.
cowboy | 2/12/2007, 6:53 pm EST
bleh. who cares. i used to own both of those cds but i traded them for chinese democracy.
Tracy Masterson | 2/12/2007, 7:33 pm EST
Option #4, Pixies. Surfer Rosa, what up now? Really, though my vote is without hesitation nor test Radiohead.
alfredo | 2/12/2007, 7:34 pm EST
Uh John Nirvana isn’t punk.
I personally think OK Computer is much better.
Plus Nevermind isn’t even their best album, their Unplugged album is far better.
Joshua | 2/12/2007, 7:37 pm EST
Three words. The Stone Roses.
skerr | 2/12/2007, 7:38 pm EST
Waking Up the Neighbours kicks both Radiohead and Nirvana’s ass. Seriously.
Kevin | 2/12/2007, 8:23 pm EST
My choice is Pearl Jam “Ten”.
It came out before Nevermind and sold more copies and PJ were the biggest band at the time before Kurt decided to do what he did.
Wigga with no aptitude | 2/12/2007, 8:55 pm EST
Both of those albums are untouchable… it’s like asking me which testicle do I want to keep… I WANT TO KEEP BOTH OF MY NUTS DAMMIT!… and I love OK Computer and Nevermind just as equally.
quatto | 2/12/2007, 11:30 pm EST
Actually JudasConstant, The Flaming Lips would be The Who. Check out the freely available(as in free to redistribute) soundtrack to ‘The Fearless Freaks’-a documentary of the Flaming Lips. The beginning of the second track, “With You,” is “Sparks” from The Who’s Tommy.
But to answer the question, I choose Husker Du’s Warehouse. Or Else The Replacement’s Tim.
Mangore l.o.v.e. | 2/12/2007, 11:55 pm EST
Ok computer, nirvana belong to the past.
Jerad | 2/12/2007, 11:59 pm EST
Uhh, I choose the Beatles
PinkPick | 2/13/2007, 12:05 am EST
I personally like OK Computer better, mainly because I can understand the lyrics without google-ing and Butch Vig polishes the beast (that is Nirvana) more than he should’ve. –In comparison to OK Computer which matches the production better.
MIKE | 2/13/2007, 12:29 am EST
I liked Nirvana but the Pixies, Husker Du, Replacements were better and Kurt would probly agree. Ok Computer is great, but it’s popularity led to the annoying obtuseness of the next 3 albums and ultimately Coldplay.
In 2007, I’d rather listen to:
Gish, The Soft Bulletin, at least 2 CD’s by Pavement or Guided By Voices, Yo La Tengo, Beasties, Sonic Youth….
oh wait, I forgot this is Rolling Stone. So yeah, you’re right.
A.J. | 2/13/2007, 12:41 am EST
i gotta say ok computer, but to be fair the only albums i think are better than ok computer involved john lennon and paul mccartney or was called pet sounds
Rae Rae | 2/13/2007, 2:06 am EST
Option #3: No matter what album, Nirvana is always going to be better than anything. Nevermind especially which definitely was one of their best albums.
sammy | 2/13/2007, 2:15 am EST
I personally feel as though Ok Computer stood the test of time a little better so I am going with it for that reason (I also like it a lot more).
As for Kevin’s argument about album sales with ten, popularity does not equal quality; it just means they had a great marketing team. A great example can be seen with Jessica Simpson’s In This Skin, that didn’t sell until her show was a hit then suddenly it took off.
Sammy | 2/13/2007, 2:34 am EST
OK Computer all the way. It’s infinitely more ‘progressive’ and track for track it pretty much kicks Nevermind’s ass. The sum total of Airbag, Let Down, PA and Karma Police alone trumps all of Nevermind. So no conflict for me then….
Tom | 2/13/2007, 6:45 am EST
I would go with Ok computer on this vote, but I believe there where so many more bands that managed to influence the 90’s in the sam (if not in a larger way)!
to note a few: Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Rage Against The Machine, Metallica,…
the list goes on!
Coen | 2/13/2007, 7:07 am EST
Nirvana is one of the most overrated bands ever… but Radiohead gives me a headache. The most essential 90’s recording is (What’s The Story) Morning Glory.
jay | 2/13/2007, 7:20 am EST
overrated…thats a joke and a half..modern rock is the way it is because of nirvana
Monte | 2/13/2007, 7:44 am EST
I don’t give a rats a**. They’re both great albums and for me it’s almost impossible to choose.
Nevermind made me listen to contemporary music and helped me fit in on school as a teenager. OK Computer helped me listen to more ’serious’ music. For me they are two timepieces that deserve more than a meaningless discussion about which one is better.
How can you compare American frustration to British self-evaluation?
Sanchez | 2/13/2007, 8:14 am EST
Siamese Dream Wins
Scott P | 2/13/2007, 8:41 am EST
OK Computer by far. Nevermind was great, but it was a tad bit overrated.
Jon | 2/13/2007, 9:29 am EST
nirvana isn’t punk….
i mean, i vote OKC, but since when did radiohead and nirvana become the stones and the beatles? correct me if i’m wrong, but isn’t that the sort of mad idolization that Cobain railed against and yorke rails against now? Not to mention the fact that you cannot possibly compare sticky fingers, nevermind, sgt peppers and OKC.
AlmostAGreene | 2/13/2007, 9:37 am EST
OK Computer, by far… Nirvana was great, but not in the same league as Radiohead.
lik roper | 2/13/2007, 9:59 am EST
i like nirvana better…
Oddjob | 2/13/2007, 10:07 am EST
I never knew there was a war between these two albums. I like both.
I wonder what that baby is doing today? He might have a band of his own by now…
Bruce | 2/13/2007, 10:16 am EST
Nevermind all the way…even the Library of Congress thought it was important enough to preserve it for eternity
theworldsforgottenboy | 2/13/2007, 11:17 am EST
Radiohead are just a bunch of second rate Brian Eno wannabes that should have broken up after ” Creep” …
Nirvana were a temporary breath of fresh air in a hair metal world who would have been shown up as weak and shallow had Cobain not got that buckshot breakfast cereal..
Go find the Nymphs -some real music that coulda had legs if not for a very stupid record company.
SPS | 2/13/2007, 12:17 pm EST
Nevermind aged much quicker than did OK Computer. More importantly, after any delay in listening to, I find myself coming back to OK Computer more often than Nevermind. True quality stands the test of time, which OK Computer certainly does.
Oddjob | 2/13/2007, 12:32 pm EST
It’s the production on Nevermind that’s dated, but the music still rocks… listen to the live “Banks of the Wishka” album or In Utero, those hold up way better. And Unplugged is actually their best album.
OK Computer is great but that band got way too over-the-top after that. Kid A was cool when it came out but got old REAL fast. When are they gonna come out with a “real” album again?
Jake The Snake | 2/13/2007, 12:35 pm EST
Nevermind? pleeaassee… That album is not nearly as good OK Computer. There is not even a comparison. Maybe if it was OK Computer vs. say… Beck’s Odelay or Elliott Smith’s XO or even The Flaming Lips The Soft Bulletin. This for sure a personal a argument decided by my own taste of music but I’m sure someone would agree with me.
Spencer | 2/13/2007, 1:04 pm EST
Radiohead is for a bunch of whiny, artsy little bitches. Furthermore, Radiohead didn’t spur a whole new genre. Nirvana did.
bjkg;k | 2/13/2007, 1:09 pm EST
willy wonka
Your Mom | 2/13/2007, 1:28 pm EST
If it weren’t for Nirvana Puddle Of Mudd would have never exsisted.
Therefor Nirvana ROCK!#!!!
OK COMPUTER | 2/13/2007, 1:31 pm EST
OK COMPUTER, Nevermind is a good album, but its pretty average in comparison. It is all a bit too samey too.
Colin | 2/13/2007, 1:33 pm EST
This is kinda funny, ok computer by a mile. Just think, without nirvana we wouldn’t have puddle of mudd, or nickelback. If influence is crutial, then nirvana more or less ruined popular modern rock. When comparing the music itself, nirvana sounds very early nineties, radiohead’s music is art. It stands up well vs. any music ever released. Pavement or the pixies have much better arguments. If kurt cobain was alive nevermind would be long forgotten about.
cmymojo | 2/13/2007, 1:33 pm EST
airbag and paranoid android are the best 1-2 combination for the beginning of an album ever. just when you think the album is starting wind down, no surprises hits you in the chest. the tourist beautifully ends the journey. ok was/is a sanpshot of the world we live in. brilliant.
Jojo | 2/13/2007, 1:36 pm EST
Everyone here is retarded. OK Computer is a much much better album. It may have been less influential than Nevermind, but that has nothing to do with the quality of the music.
You can probably say that Radiohead wouldn’t have been as big if Nirvana hadn’t existed. But Radiohead still made better albums.
Also, for those of you calling Thom Yorke emo…I’m pretty sure he’s never killed himself, so who would be the bigger emo out of the two lead singers?
Taylor Elkins | 2/13/2007, 1:38 pm EST
OK Computer, is, in my opinion, one of the best rock albums ever recorded. The only Radiohead album i like more is Kid A. But its close to a tie. Never been a big fan of Nirvana. So i’m going with OK Computer
Nick Miller | 2/13/2007, 1:41 pm EST
Nirvana and Nevermind were awesome at the time and still awesome to listen to but they spawned so many one-dimensional mock grunge bands. Not that it was their intention exactly. Meanwhile ok computer showed a music with a lot more possibility. You’re always going to hear more Nevermind songs on the radio but thats because people have less tolerance for experimentation.
Spitting Feathers | 2/13/2007, 1:43 pm EST
OKC is the more complete album, simple as that.
B | 2/13/2007, 1:54 pm EST
OK COMPUTER by a longshot
no contest
while I like Nevermind, Nirvana was pretty much just a Pixies wannabe band that happened to be in the right place at the right time. If the Pixies hadn’t broken up when they did, then they would have been on here instead of Nirvana
jesswalter | 2/13/2007, 2:00 pm EST
easy. ok computer. this is not even a good contest.
Paul | 2/13/2007, 2:03 pm EST
As a teacher I can personally say that at least among the younger generation that I observe on a daily basis Nirvana seems to be the clear winner. I see many Nirvana tee shirts and know of many students musically inspired by Nirvana. While music sales certainly are not everything, Nirvana continues to be the winner in the democracy of music sales and downloads. Nevermind continues to sell over 150,000 per year and has sold over 10,000,000. Radiohead’s album only 2 million and it took 10 years to do so. Both albums are good, but I think in the long run (25 years from now, it will be Nirvana that will be remembered in the history books.
Bruce | 2/13/2007, 2:11 pm EST
I often dislike contests or rankings of bands because they are very subjective. One person’s idea of musical genius may be someone else’s idea of trash. However, I think when we look at musical history, we could say that there were bands that changed the status quo and had long term influence on the history of music. I wouldn’t rank them but simply make a list of these bands. I think that both the Nevermind and Ok Computer albums would deserve to be on this list.
madd dogg | 2/13/2007, 2:15 pm EST
There both great albums but….
Nevermind does sound a bit dated
and Cobain shooting himself -
is the real reason this album is cemented in the rock world. Ok Computer on the other hand was light years ahead of its time and still sounds just as innovative and fresh as it did 10 years ago. But we also forget NIN – The Downward Spiral had a major impact
on music in the later half of the nineties and like OK Computer
still sounds as razor sharp and
innovative as it did 13 years ago.
Chrx | 2/13/2007, 2:16 pm EST
Whilst I really like Nevermind, I think OK Computer is much more complex and forms one whole. Songs like “Fitter Happier” would never work outside the context of OK Computer. But the way it made them fit into it and form one single unit, that’s the magiv of OKC.
And, from my holy© point of view, the only album that could compete with OKC is Notwist’s “Neon Golden”. But I guess nobody really knows it…
Ed | 2/13/2007, 2:17 pm EST
I sometimes wonder if many the people who have heard it, even the fans, have quite discovered the amazing depth of Ok Computer. The more you get to know the album, the deeper you can go.. and there are incredible, humanizing experiences to be had with it. I wonder if even the band knew quite the work of art it would be when they created it.
Ok Computer deserves the highest praise it gets, and it deserves to be experienced by far more people than it has been.
astral | 2/13/2007, 2:20 pm EST
Great summary, Monte: “How can you compare American frustration to British self-evaluation?”
But I’m still going to vote for OK Computer, which is still as listenable – if not more so – now as it was a decade ago.
Yaro D | 2/13/2007, 2:20 pm EST
I got into Nirvana in like 2004 and since then I’ve been a heavy fan of listening and studying them. But then I realized this Euphoria that is mind blowing after listens and listens. OK Computer I would rather live with but Nevermind will always be the first that got me into Radiohead…
skeezer | 2/13/2007, 2:27 pm EST
This isn’t even close. OK Computer wins easily.
random guy | 2/13/2007, 2:29 pm EST
rolling stone sucks for even posing the question…while calling John Mayer a ‘guitar god’.
Credibility SHOT!!!
Go Nirvana AND Radiohead!!!!
Mean Mister Carter | 2/13/2007, 2:33 pm EST
The winner is OK Computer, hands down.
While Nevermind may be a fantastic album, it has-at least for me-grown stale after repeated listens. OK Computer, however, has stayed in my rotation since it was released in 1997. Each song on Nevermind can be boiled down to the same simple equation, while the songs on OK Computer are not only all different, but somehow manage to come together and make a singular experience.
In response to Nirvana creating an entire genre from their music: They may be revolutionary in taking the pop music crown away from Michael Jackson (among other acts), but the genre they created quickly sputtered out and died. Radiohead, on the other hand, have continued to grow and learn, becoming similar to the Beatles in that they cannot be classified and they transcend genre. And I doubt Nirvana would have achieved that same accomplishment.
Robbie Gelder | 2/13/2007, 2:47 pm EST
Hmmmm. Nevermind will be remembered for just being a good album and for one song in particular. But OK Computer really does stand head and shoulders above it. You listen to Nevermind and OK Computer one after the other and you would realise just how much more you get out of Radiohead’s album than Nirvana’s. I’m sorry but I agree with a lot of the people on here that this really is a no-contest argument. Paranoid Android would win against any Nirvana track. Enough said.
Wtorek | 2/13/2007, 2:51 pm EST
OK Computer, plain and simple. And im not just saying this becuase radiohead is my favorite band. I chose OKC because it appeals to a variety of people. Take for example my father. 48 years old loves older stuff like Allman, Petty, ect ect ect. Yet unlike any of my other music he can actaully tolerate OKC. Nirvana was a great band but dont get me wrong, but for who? it was a great band for teenagers who loved the rebelious and anti society music that nirvana produced. For OKC and radiohead, everyone can listen to it. lastly, if you think that the members of nirvana are actaully more skiled musicians than radiohead, well you can just go not shower or something
Robert | 2/13/2007, 2:52 pm EST
Musically, OKC is very intense. Never is power chords and simple riff’s here and there. Nirvana was a big influence on musicians as well as Radiohead. I don’t know how to say what I’m trying to say, all I know is that Radioheads “music” is far more difficult to play / compose than Nirvana.
I grew up on Nirvana and Radiohead. But as I grew older, I grew more fond of Radiohead.
So, hands down, Radiohead, OKC! That album is perfectly composed.
Peter | 2/13/2007, 2:55 pm EST
OK Computer is terrible. Stop going to see Radiohead…so I can get tickets.
James | 2/13/2007, 2:56 pm EST
To be honist, id say Kid A :+), but definity OK Computer…
Hugo | 2/13/2007, 2:58 pm EST
To ‘Spencer’:
Fuck You, and people who don’t respect each other’s musical tastes, and I am sorry, but Radiohead, despite not creating a new ‘genre’ as you say (which is a completely music-business money-making word), they influenced countless other bands and gave many more a great time listening to it, just like Nirvana, so just shut up and go home.
To “Paul”: Just because Nirvana sold more and more kids today have Nirvana t-shirts and stuff doesn’t mean they were the best, unless you live in, again, a money-making music business. And OK Computer DID NOT take 10 years to get famous you idiot, get your facts right! If it did, it would only be now, in 2007 that it would be getting famous.
You are one shit teacher.
Daniel Round | 2/13/2007, 3:02 pm EST
Kid A and Amnesiac are better than OKC in my opinion anyway, but OKC still edges Nevermind. In Utero is better than Nevermind in itself. The albums are totally different anyway. Neither are the best album of the 90s though… THE HOLY BIBLE!! MANICS!!! (surely?)
tim | 2/13/2007, 3:08 pm EST
ok computer by a landslide…its way more timeless and will be on my playlist forever…
paranoidandroid91 | 2/13/2007, 3:12 pm EST
these are my two favourite albums of all time and so difficult to compare but here i go:
1. Airbag vs Smells like Teen Spirit: Smells like teen spirit
2. Paranoid Andriod vs In bloom: Paranoid Android.
3. Subterranean Homesick Alien vs Come as you are: Come as you are
4. Exit Music(for a Film) vs Breed: Exit Music(for a Film)
5. Let Down vs Lithium: Lithium
6. Karma Police vs Polly: Karma Police
7. Fitterr Happier vs Territorial Pissings: Territorial Pissings
8. Electioneering vs Drain You: Drain You
9. Climbing Up the Walls vs Lounge Act: Lounge Act
10. No Surprises vs Stay Away: No Surprises
11. Lucky vs On a Plain: Lucky
12. The Tourist vs Something in the way: The Tourist
Radiohead-6 Nirvana-6
I told you i couldnt compare them…but if i was pushed to it i’d say that ok computer is better cos their my favourite band ever and thats my favourite album.nevermind was more influential, ok computer was better
the wolf at the door | 2/13/2007, 3:13 pm EST
I must opine.
Influential? They both changed how we listened to music. The difference? What’s the first song you learn to play on your guitar? Smells like teen spirit. NOT Paranoid Android. The difference is in the simplicity. Nirvana is simple – Radiohead is not. Every time I listen to OKC I hear something new – and I listen to it every friggin’ week! There’s no comparison – Radiohead is the most influential band in terms of musical development of the century.
MSG | 2/13/2007, 3:14 pm EST
I’m a little older probably than most people here. I was at a college radio station at the time bleach came out and thought it was incredible. I loved everything on subpop at the time. When Nevermind hit, I couldn’t believe I was hearing a subpop band on commercial radio. It was unimaginable. And although later in life my tastes have changed and I still listen to OK computer regularly and completely love Radiohead, especially post KID-A. Nevermind was a more important album. It changed everything for the way we would listen to music. You have to remember that we were listening to Winger and Poison and even worse before Nevermind came out. Bands like Blink, Green Day, etc all owe a debt of gratitude to Nevermind. Sonic Youth even made a documentary called ‘91 the year punk broke’ and that was mostly caused by nevermind. So although OK computer is timeless and Nevermind isn’t even Nirvanas best or second best album, its the most import one from the 90’s.
Segue | 2/13/2007, 3:20 pm EST
“Nevermind” – Captured a moment in music history that spurred a movement. Since then, this movement has evolved.
“OK Computer” – Timeless. Forward-thinking. Challenging.
Both are masterpeices. But I’m a biased fan of The Oxford 5.
Down Is The New Up
Lorna Woolf | 2/13/2007, 3:26 pm EST
i think that both of their music is about life being shit and all, but one did it a little more creatively than the other. Ok computer get’s my vote.
J.A.B. | 2/13/2007, 3:27 pm EST
I’ll put it this way. OK Computer, is still in constant rotation in my car and on my iPOD, while Nevermind is gathering dust with blink 182, STP, Pearl Jam, and Jane’s addiction. I would say that Nevermind was more popular, but as it gets older it’s songs start to rot, while Radiohead’s album is so complex that you can appreciate it over and over again.
Ale | 2/13/2007, 3:34 pm EST
Nevermind is a good album, but Nirvana didn’t live long enough to make an album as good as OK Computer, the closest they came was with the Unplugged album. Nevermind was a landmark in the ’90s but there it stayed whereas OKC is timeless.
jim | 2/13/2007, 3:38 pm EST
OK computer hands down. wanna tough 1? OK computer or Dark side of the moon, now tahts a predicament.
Yaro D. | 2/13/2007, 3:40 pm EST
I’m from Seattle and i know Nirvana is from here but its just a coincidance that I started LOVING the crap out of nirvana and now I moved on and I couldn’t believe it to be Radiohead. The two bands are my most favorite from the 1990’s
Nick | 2/13/2007, 3:41 pm EST
they’re both good, but there is no doubt in my mind that in 50 years nevermind will be remembered as one of the indisputable classics of the nineties, while ok computer will be somewhat of a footnote. and rightfully so.
Jordi | 2/13/2007, 3:44 pm EST
Ok Computer is the best Album I´ve ever heard. It´s the only piece of popular music that comes close to the total sense of unity of classical symphonies by Bruckner, Beethoven or Tchaikovsky.
J.A.B. | 2/13/2007, 3:47 pm EST
Nevermind best represents the 90’s while Radiohead is more timeless, and therefore the better album
radiocoocoo | 2/13/2007, 3:50 pm EST
ok computer wins
nevermind was one of the first cds i owned
i listened to it for a few months and got bored of it
i stick it in the cd player now and again but never finish the album
but ok computer i can listen to al the way threw everytime
vana is good stuff cobain was a genious when it came to making simple music
but you can not compair it to radiohead
they are the best thing since the beatles
oh and vana wasnt the first thing i learned on guitar creep was
yours truely
radiocoocoo
J.A.B. | 2/13/2007, 3:51 pm EST
Nirvana was very refreshing at the time, it was simple and rough, but after a while becomes tiresome. while Radiohead is intricately complex and therfore has long staying power.
Pavements Loretta | 2/13/2007, 3:57 pm EST
Ok Computer wins
karis | 2/13/2007, 3:57 pm EST
OK Computer changed my life. Enough said.
Tass | 2/13/2007, 3:58 pm EST
I think OK Computer is the best album.
Nevermind is also too, but OK Computer has something special when u listen it.
cheers
Radiohead 4ever!
JC | 2/13/2007, 4:02 pm EST
OK Computer without a doubt.
Nirvana is great and all but OKC is from another galaxy all together.
OKC: Rock is Dead | 2/13/2007, 4:04 pm EST
Whatever happened to real music journalism? Where are the serious critiques of true musical aesthetics? Rolling Stone, please critically evaluate yourself. Lately, your political commentary is much more intriguing then any article that deals with music. Forsake formats such as Blender, dont give into these petty arguements and evaluate creative new artists (not just the stuff that will generate revenue). Remember when you said the Vines were the new saviors of Rock? Good call on that one… what are you guys, 13 years old?
Mark | 2/13/2007, 4:04 pm EST
I look at it this way: If I was only allowed one of these two albums to bring to a deserted island,it would no question be OK Computer. I’m a big Nirvana fan but musically, OK Computer just blows Nevermind out of the water.
ughhh | 2/13/2007, 4:06 pm EST
i say nevermind. i never understood why OK computer got so much praise. all i hear when i listen to the album is weak vocals and corny lyrics.
Callum | 2/13/2007, 4:11 pm EST
Nevermind was ok-ish but OK Computer has changed the music world. Before listening to this work of art, i was into pop-rock , and now, my music tastes are a lot more diverse. Nevermind is stuck in its time and is stale now. OK Computer was ahead of its time then, and still is ahead of its time today.
OK Computer all the way
jwo | 2/13/2007, 4:12 pm EST
OK Computer.
Anonymous | 2/13/2007, 4:14 pm EST
Nevermind was great. For a while. I think I adored it for about 2 months. OK computer I didn’t like at first. Or 2nd. Or 7th. When i reached roughly the tenth listen (i’d heard it was amazing, and wanted to get it)I loved it. I’ve now been listening to at least part of it almost every day for the last ten years and am still having trouble with the notion of it being written by mere mortals. For me it’s the only rock I’ve heard that equals (or even betters) the greatest classical works in its entirety.It’s quite genuinly changd my life, since I’m busy penning it’s spiritual sequal
…..shame about electioneering…
christina_aguilera | 2/13/2007, 4:15 pm EST
I like listening to Thom Yorke from Radiohead. That’s good sexy-time music.
peter lewins | 2/13/2007, 4:18 pm EST
Deffinately ok computer all the way, this album was the defining moment for 90’s music, this album changed my life !
Cobaine (did it to himself) | 2/13/2007, 4:19 pm EST
Creating a new genre doesn’t mean a band is top quality. Just cus’ new kids on the block were the first real boy band doesn’t change the fact that they all suck $*(%&*. Therefore, if you argue that nirvana is the best because they ‘created’ a genre, you miss the point. I wasn’t a fan of Nirvana then nor now. Bunch of thumb sucking cry babies.
OK Computer is untouchable.
MUGTR | 2/13/2007, 4:24 pm EST
This isn’t even close. Nirvana was good at writing catchy alt rock songs that were influential and “changed” music, but they weren’t even the best at doing that in their own city (Pearl Jam was by far the best band in the Seattle grunge scene).
Radiohead, on the other hand, is the best band of our time. OK Computer and Kid A are masterpieces, and simply comparing the work of art that is OK Computer to Nevermind is an insult.
D. | 2/13/2007, 4:27 pm EST
It is probably true that Nirvana is more influencial because anyone can start a band and write some simple messy loud songs and say that that was what they were going for. I’m not saying Nevermind is a bad album because the simple, messy, loud quality is what makes it great, but in terms of musical creativity and and technical skill OK Computer is by far a superior album. Influence does not always mean a band is great and OK Computer was too good of an album to even start a real popular music trend. OKC, Kid A and Marilyn Manson’s Antichrist Superstar are the best popular rockish albums of the 90’s.
Hey | 2/13/2007, 4:29 pm EST
I must respectfully disagree. I think Nirvana will be remembered for their albums over individual songs, with the exception of Smells Like Teen Spirit. This was quite evident in the 1990’s when Nirvana had 4 #1 albums on the Billboard charts, yet only one song in the top 10 on the Billboard 100. Nirvana always seemed to take an album approach to their music.
Second, I have never understood arguments made that music is greater because it may have fancy guitar work or songs with more advanced writing. To me, music is about passion and feelings it can build inside you. Regardless if a song has simple or advanced lyrics, if the song deeply effects your life, then who cares. I think long term, Nevermind will be seen as most influential as compared to Radiohead. And while sales may not be everything, Nevermind has convinced over 11 million people to spend their hard earned money to buy and enjoy the music….Ok Computer only 2 million.
Ed! | 2/13/2007, 4:30 pm EST
OK COMPUTER IS THE BEST
/carpal discount house | 2/13/2007, 4:35 pm EST
I loved Nevermind with all my heart and soul, and it made me pick up the guitar and start bashing away untill i could play every song on that album.
Then I discovered OK Computer and realised that music can be a hell of a lot more complicated than a few chords and a quick guitar solo before the final chorus. OKC made me move from guitar to keyboards, which led me to (with a little help from Kid A/Amnesiac) synths and drum machines. Radiohead taught me the difference between songwriting and composing, and its because of them that I have dedicated my life to composing music.
Nirvana never even nearly made me cry.
I saw Radiohead last August and was bubbling like a baby throughout many of their songs.
I obviously relate to Radiohead more because Im brittish (in a very loose sense of the word), but I dont think it matters where your from, if you compare the two albums in terms of musical and emotional depth, Nevermind is a paddling pool compared to the ocean that is OK Computer.
Also, why the hell are Nirvana considered more groundbreaking than Sonic Youth? Massive oversight here people.
zach | 2/13/2007, 4:47 pm EST
nirvana’s kinda overrated, just czuse kurts dead and all it spurred it to legendary, there good and all an shook the music but they werent a second coming, besides they are about the only good grunge band.
But then again radiohead isnt a second coming either and didnt spur a movement as it should have. still ill always go with radiohead over nirvana.
the way i look at the coldplay/radiohead comparison is radiohead is coldplay with balls.
Annette | 2/13/2007, 4:49 pm EST
Radiohead ROCKS!! Ok Computer, Hail to the Thief, and Kid A are amazing, mind blowing and completely beautiful. I can’t describe how much I love their music, it’s insane how much they rock! ha they really do. If you haven’t listened to their music do it, and you might not like it at first if you’re like me but keep listening, and hopefully you’ll experience their genius.
Monty | 2/13/2007, 4:53 pm EST
I think my favorite thing said so far is that, even though Nevermind is a great album, it’s not timeless like OK Computer. That’s it. Ok Computer can not be touched
brett | 2/13/2007, 4:57 pm EST
ok computer,when that first chord is played it takes you into a different world and dosnt let you out until that last hit of the bell on the tourist!
David W | 2/13/2007, 4:59 pm EST
What next? Bikini Kill vs Smashing Pumpkins?
Andrew | 2/13/2007, 5:06 pm EST
Nirvana was my first love, but Radiohead is now right up there.
I agree with Segue in that “Nevermind” was a snapshot in music history, a moment that launched a new way of thinking about music but would, itself, soon become antiquated. “OK Computer” on the other hand was more difficult than “Nevermind” was and I don’t think it quite instituted the sea change in the music biz that “Nevermind” did. “OK Computer” is however the more timeless of the two. Both are solid albums, top to bottom, and I think they’re almost too diverse to compare adequately.
The amazing thing is that neither of these albums are even the best of their bands’ offerings. “In Utero” and “Kid A” are the pinnacles of both bands, and two of the greatest pop records ever made.
no | 2/13/2007, 5:18 pm EST
nirvana really was not good music. it was elevated way past what it deserved due its “martyrdom”. whatever they wanted to call it.
trexlem | 2/13/2007, 5:22 pm EST
OKC. Without a doubt. Nirvana was the right band at the right time, but Radiohead were and still are the BEST band since you know who. Their music is challenging and deep, and the satisfaction of needing to listen to an album 2, 3, or 10 times before ‘getting it’ is something only a few bands can provide.
Radioman | 2/13/2007, 5:23 pm EST
Radiohead FTMFW
drewved | 2/13/2007, 5:23 pm EST
OK COMPUTER gets my vote…..by a mile
Periplo | 2/13/2007, 5:24 pm EST
Personally I love both albums. Andyou know what? I’m gratful because I don’t have to choose. Now, ask yourself: do you?
=)
Heed | 2/13/2007, 5:24 pm EST
not even close…OK Computer by a long shot! Nevermind is just a Pixies ripoff (kurt said so himself). OK Computer transcends time, no one would hear it and think “oh this is old.” 50 years from now people will be listening to OK Computer. Also there is a HUGE difference between an ALBUM and a set of songs. OK Computer is a conceptual piece of art, not a collection of songs. Nevermind made music sound easy so tons of talentless hacks jumped on the grunge (ehem not punk!) band wagon…OK Computer changed all the rules of Rock and dismantled the notion of what makes an album.
Allen | 2/13/2007, 5:25 pm EST
Ok Computer is by the far the best album, Nevermind was a mere solid…
Aaron (tony) | 2/13/2007, 5:26 pm EST
Ok Computer is simply magical. Radiohead is the most important band in the world because their music changes music and the people who listen to it… for the better.
Apparently, Down IS the new UP!!!
Austin | 2/13/2007, 5:36 pm EST
Ok Computer easily but thats not to say I don’t like Nirvana. Nirvana is one of my favorite bands ever but Radiohead is my favirote hands down. And it doesn’t hurt that Ok Computer is the greatest album ever.
GhostofTomWaits | 2/13/2007, 5:36 pm EST
OK Computer was a statement on the world that was coming and the world that was already there when Radiohead released it.
Nevermind was a shot in the arm for the music industry that had become overrun by hair metal bands.
Both came from the same feelings and both were challenging first listens but Radiohead takes the prize.
Another Radiohead Fan | 2/13/2007, 5:38 pm EST
First off I must acknowledge that without “Nevermind” there’s a reasonibly good chance that Radiohead never would’ve broken into the music scene at all in the early 90s. As a result of the scale of Nevermind’s influence I’d say it’s certainly the most IMPORTANT album of the 1990s, at least for now.
But importance and popularity don’t make something the best. OK Computer redefined the boundries of ‘rock’ music and set the stage for the wave of good ‘indie’ and alternative bands (Wilco, Modest Mouse, Flaming Lips, etc) who’d been tooling in the background for years already to finally come into their own (popularity wise). OK Computer, as an album, is my favorite piece of music ever composed, period. Even though that’s subject to change I doubt it will be any time soon.
If you want to compair to albums that are more compatible musically compare The Bends to Nevermind… Then again I just prefer Radiohead to Nirvana 9 days out of 10.
fian 7 nicaragua | 2/13/2007, 5:39 pm EST
nevermind isnt even the best album of nirvana (IN UTERO) and it drags way behing hte magic of ok computer!
nirvana came and gone, radiohead is there and will be forever.
OKC isnt just more important that nevermind, its the most important album of radiohead and through this the most important album for hte modern rock!
Bitca | 2/13/2007, 5:40 pm EST
I hate fans.
sweetnessfollows | 2/13/2007, 5:42 pm EST
even though ok computer is the last perfect album, it does not have 10% the raw passion/emotion of nevermind. radiohead is now stuck in a rut and, judging from the nirvana box set, nirvana would have done amazing things.
m@ | 2/13/2007, 5:45 pm EST
radiohead are the mozart and beethoven of their time..
their music is timeless and will be remembered for, if not centuries, at least decades..
nirvana are stale in comparison to radiohead..
Ziia | 2/13/2007, 5:49 pm EST
OK COMPUTER wins the game quite easily…
kyd_a | 2/13/2007, 5:51 pm EST
Who is Radiohead? Never heard of them.
matias sendra | 2/13/2007, 5:55 pm EST
Ok Computer comes from another dimension or another planet, music made by aliens, compare to nevermind is a stupid thing, compare with Dark Side of The Moon.
OK computer is better by far.
I can`t listen Nevermind anymore, but OKC i listen every year since 1997 and i can’t stop to leave it, it’s like a damn disc!!!, Amnesiac for me is better but is not to much accesible for the most of people. Radiohead it’s like Art.
jay | 2/13/2007, 5:56 pm EST
music is about passion…OKC doesnt have that
Mark | 2/13/2007, 5:59 pm EST
OK Computer is an untouchable masterpiece.
Eric | 2/13/2007, 6:02 pm EST
Exit Music may be one of the finest songs ever written. It’s initial simplicity that seemlessly blends into a masterful blend of transitions, peaks and valleys makes it cathartic like no other piece of music.
Siruko Nomisu | 2/13/2007, 6:03 pm EST
I have never encountered an album as flawlessly crafted and timeless as OK Computer. Doubters can say all they want how powerful Nevermind was for its time (of course, I can admit that), but Radiohead achieved a rare balancing act in music: textured experimentalism and unorthodox song structures tempered with accessibility. Few albums can compare (seriously, this is a fully realized work with no filler. Even “Fitter Happier” serves a big purpose as a track), and even fewer are as cohesive. While doubters dismiss it as nerdy art-rock with devoid of power, I can honestly say they’ve never actually listened the barrage of distortion in “Paranoid Android,” the desperation in “Exit Music (For a Film),” the soaring atmospherics of “Subterranean Homesick Alien,” or the crushing resignation of “No Surprises.” Everything else defies classification and description. However, respect must be given to Cobain and the rest of Nirvana for beating down the door for alt. rock in the first place (even if In Utero was their best album).
bside benson | 2/13/2007, 6:06 pm EST
both albums are masterpieces and also why just compare these two albums…because they were their most popular? i think all nirvanas albums are genius and all radioheads albums are genius….why does everyone have to bitch about the so called “greatest” both bands are phenomenal and equally fantastic in their own unique ways…..lets just be thankfull that this music was made for us to listen to at free will….thats what music is about listening not talking and bitching……think about it
Streetspirit | 2/13/2007, 6:10 pm EST
Ok Computer, by a long shot.
Julien | 2/13/2007, 6:17 pm EST
there is no possible comparison! i have nothing against nirvana, but OK Computer is a masterpiece, absolutely amazing, i think Radiohead is one of the best groups on earth
boneykingofnowhere | 2/13/2007, 6:20 pm EST
here it goes:
1.Smells Like Teen Spirit vs. Airbag- Smells Like Teen Spirit
2.In Bloom vs. Paranoid Android-Paranoid Android
3.Come As You Were vs. Subterannean Homesick Alien- Subterannean Homesick Alien
4.Exit Music vs. Breed- Exit Music (For A Film)
5.Lithium vs. Let Down- Let Down
6.Polly vs. Karma Police- Polly
7.Territorial Pissings vs. Fitter Happier- Territorial Pissings
8.Drain You vs. Electioneering- Drain You
9.Lounge Act vs. Climbing Up The Walls- Climbing Up The Walls
10.Stay Away vs. No Surprises- No Surprises
11.On A Plain vs. Lucky- Lucky
12.Something In The Way vs. The Tourist- Something In The Way
Nirvana-5 Radiohead-7
Close call but eventually all the Nevermind songs start to sound the same, where as every song on OK Computer is different and well crafted. When it comes to most influential album of the 90’s it may be Nevermind though. Who knows.
gio | 2/13/2007, 6:27 pm EST
i say ok computer
however i miss the nineties
the 00’s are the gloaming!!!
edgard | 2/13/2007, 6:30 pm EST
So in my opinion i think its OK Computer but for one ive been on a Radiohead binge lately. I think both bands are influential in their own rights but in these two albums i think Radioheads better. but as john bradley said we can like em both.
Agent Rygun | 2/13/2007, 6:31 pm EST
to imply that there is a song better than Climbing Up The Walls, or Karma Police, is grounds for tar & feathering. truth.
Taylor | 2/13/2007, 6:36 pm EST
I dont know, It seems that NOTHING sounded like OK Computer at the time when it came out, When Nevermind came out it seemed that there were a thousand grudge bands from Seattle that sounded like that, however Nirvana was probably the most accesible. Though it should be noted that Radiohead were heavily influenced by Nirvana to begin with, and Smells Like Teen Spirit broke doors down for a song like Creep to be succesful in America(the country where Radiohead were first succesful in.) Both great, timeless, and beutiful and will both go down in history as one of the most aspiring albums of all time. But nothing sounded or sounds like OK Computer and never will.
Soren | 2/13/2007, 6:39 pm EST
OK Computer gave the landscape of music new colours. Lyrically it’s a tale of our tragic present and future. It’s the epic album Nirvana could have created had they created more music.
Yaro | 2/13/2007, 6:39 pm EST
THEY ARE NOT COMPARABLE JEEZ. IT’S LIKE COMPARING THE BEATLES(NIRVANA) TO DISC JOCKEY MUSIC. ERR (RADIOHEAD)
Radiohead | 2/13/2007, 6:43 pm EST
Radiohead is overall a better band than Nirvana and that is reflected in this debate. I have listened to countless albums that copy off OK Computer left and right. One being Sam’s Town by the Killers. The other being every Muse album. Nirvana is a great band, but album to album OK Computer is better.
KARMA POLICE | 2/13/2007, 6:45 pm EST
The top song on each album is Karma Police and Smells Like Teen Spirit. Karma Police is the best song ever written and is sad but at the same time happy. Teen Spirit is just repetitive and is good but not even on the same level as Karma Police.
libra14eb | 2/13/2007, 6:46 pm EST
nirana was hype.
radiohead is rock, constantly reinventing themselves and rebelling against the establishment.
what was nirvana except a skinny self-conscious heroin addict playing the same 6 chords who invented “grunge” attire purely because he thought he was too skinny?? what has nirvana spawned? foo fighters? maybe nickelback?
absolutely no question. radiohead is superior.
tb | 2/13/2007, 6:54 pm EST
Dave Grohl himself, in Rolling Stone no less, was quoted as saying Radiohead are the shit, they are the band to watch, and that “Airbag” was an incredible song.
Yaro | 2/13/2007, 6:55 pm EST
Kurt Cobain was a legend. he was good looking and wrote powerful music. Passionate music.
rey carbono | 2/13/2007, 6:58 pm EST
OK OK OK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
C!
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OK!!!
Talk Show Host | 2/13/2007, 6:59 pm EST
I think most people have not fully appreciated both albums for what they were, Nevermind being a cornerstone in the social movement of “grunge”, Ok Computer changing rock into an art form that is to be perfected rather than blasted.
Seeing as OK Computer is atop my favourites of all time, I will pick it over Nevermind. Specifically, because although listeners can fully appreciate each track on both albums, never before have I heard the range covered in a single album the way OK Computer has.
Brock Landers | 2/13/2007, 7:00 pm EST
I love Nirvana and I think Kurt Cobain was very talented. They will forever leave a mark in the history of music and pop culture without the shadow of a doubt. But to say they are better than Radiohead is kinda crazy. In my opinion, I still have not heard a band that I enjoy better than Radiohead. Not even the mighty Nirvana. Also, I would even say that Radiohead are better musicians which brings me to the topic of even comparing these bands in the first place! Long live the head that is a radio.
jk_amnesiac | 2/13/2007, 7:01 pm EST
We all know Ok Computer is the best 90’s album.
Even with Nirvana’s Nevermind (wich is an excellent album too), Radiohead is the most experimental album of those two.
Also, their music’s generous are too much diferent. Nirvana isn’t as “Experimental”, “Artistic”, “Imaginative”, “Ingenius” as Radiohead.
Radiohead get us deeply inside their music, its like magic. There is no way Nevermind is what Radiohead made in Ok Computer. It’s not enough.
*Influence in music, each group will decide their generous.
*Influence in life, Radiohead!!!
That’s all I have to say.
CoCheLLo | 2/13/2007, 7:04 pm EST
I feel my luck could change…
and radiohead has changed my life
OK COMPUTER all the time!
ChauZaN!!
magnum BM | 2/13/2007, 7:05 pm EST
i would say that Nevermind was more influential on the music industry, and OK Computer was more influential on a personal level. i still listen to OK computer on a regular basis, Nevermind is long played out for me. P.S. those who compare U2 to radiohead should be strung up and tortured.
zandar | 2/13/2007, 7:10 pm EST
it’s too bad nevermind was covered with icky radio-friendly gloss and more emphasis wasn’t put on kurt’s words and singing. ok computer’s arrangements and melodies were more complex, but this often devolves into what feels like wanking to me. Simplicity and raw emotion were Kurt’s stock in trade. He stirred things up that people don’t want to think about, which makes for compelling listening. And something that is simple is easy to dismiss as less important or impressive. In rock music the greatest profundity emerges from the simplest of elements, and no one did that better than Nirvana. They were the expressionsists of rock; abstracted form, bold lines, strongly emotional, highly symbolic. You could say the same about any intelligent punk rock, and they epitomized that form. No contest at all in my book.
JZTRUTH | 2/13/2007, 7:11 pm EST
I enjoy Nirvana. I think they were a pretty good band. However, I think Radiohead’s OKC makes anything Nirvana released appear childish. Don’t take it personally, Nirvana. Radiohead has this humbling effect on most bands. They are the most important Rock band of the past 20 years, in my humble opinion.
erika | 2/13/2007, 7:14 pm EST
radiohead, for sure.
nevermind is a great record, but compared to ok computer? no way. ok computer is so much more powerful, strong, and groundbreaking, in my opinion. thom yorke/jonny greenwood are both musical genuises. cobain was brilliant, but its like comparing the backstreet boys to the beatles. cmon.
bl0pa | 2/13/2007, 7:19 pm EST
radiohead is the best band around the world…it´s true!!!
rh rulz!!!
i_might_be_wrong | 2/13/2007, 7:22 pm EST
i live in seattle. folks out here love nirvana, of course, but most seattle-ites know that other bands like sonic youth are the true fathers of grunge.
but, more importantly, simple bar chords will never match the virtuosity of paranoid android or subterranean homesick alien. and songs from OKC are insanely sick live in concert.
and, oh yeah, thom yorke’s lyrics are completely nuts.
regardless of nirvana’s influence on suburban teenagers, this seattle-ite votes ok computer without a doubt
cheesecrop | 2/13/2007, 7:25 pm EST
For myself this is an impossible call. I have Nevermind, but do not have O.K. Computer. The general opinion seems to be that Radiohead has the better album but that Nirvana is owed some credit for paving the way for them. I think there is one thing that must be said. I notice many of the posts praise the album O.K. Computer as a whole, while suggesting that Nevermind was merely a string of catchy songs. The logic is that as an album O.K. Computer will stand the test of time. As it is however, we seem to be moving towards a singles driven marketplace with all the downloading. In that situation wouldn’t O.K. Computer lose some of it’s pull in that respect? Down the line, wouldn’t the logic of a young person’s market (in 10 years or so) seem to favor Nirvana? As I said I can’t give a true musical comparison, so I ask the Radiohead fans to forvige me this fault and at least examine the logic behind my statement here.
Don't Care | 2/13/2007, 7:30 pm EST
What an amazingly stupid article. If it was infact a fight Nirvana would beat the bloody shit out of Radiohead. Radiohead, in my opinion, suck big fucking dog dick as most music these days does.
Daro | 2/13/2007, 7:31 pm EST
OK Computer.-
anyone can play guitar | 2/13/2007, 7:32 pm EST
OKC hands down. It’s easy to say “if kurt was still alive nirvana would have produced something amazing” but when it comes down to it…when they failed to produce anything amazing (in my opinnion) while he was alive what makes you think if he was alive any longer he would have made anything better? bands usally tend to fade after years… radiohead however, 15+ years and each album gets better and better! plus come on johnny’s trained in F($($ing classical music!!
anyone can play guitar | 2/13/2007, 7:33 pm EST
oh and one more thing… what makes radiohead so amazing is their ability to stay out of the mainstream!
motionless wheel | 2/13/2007, 7:39 pm EST
OK COMPUTER FTW!
the___gloaming | 2/13/2007, 7:44 pm EST
OK Computer..
epstein478 | 2/13/2007, 7:47 pm EST
i didnt read every comment but i think you all forgot about a little album called LOVELESS
JEFFLH11237 | 2/13/2007, 7:50 pm EST
OK COMPUTER IS THE BEST ALBUM OF THE 1990′S
Aikuh | 2/13/2007, 7:53 pm EST
OK COMPUTER!!!1
Btw Radiohead > Nirvana
Roobs | 2/13/2007, 8:01 pm EST
OK Computer is the greatest album of all time. I cant believe Nevermind is even being compared. Nirvana wont be remembered as well as Radiohead in 100 years time.
U can just get so much more out of OK Computer.
Bertino | 2/13/2007, 8:01 pm EST
This is tough because both albums are epic, but I think Radiohead’s OK Computer is better. Also, as a band, Radiohead has much more talent, depth and range if you compare musician vs. musician.
Not sure about the point of this comparison though as music appreciation is an opinion and not a fact.
Frech Prince of Darkness | 2/13/2007, 8:12 pm EST
I am going to have to add to this slaying of Nirvana. OK Computer is superior album even when you take into account the night vs. day mood difference between them. You Rolling stone critics could defend nirvana by saying that we hear the songs everyday on the radio and are sick of them by now. But I bought OK in July of ‘97 and it hasn’t found its way out of my disc player in 10 f’in years.
Radiodead | 2/13/2007, 8:12 pm EST
Radiohead. Cocksucking dick shoving pieces of shit. Shiny fucking new turds with intellectual lyrics and shiny jizz shined music with no real emotion behind any of it. Jetmainstream aerodynamic fecal projectiles landing on the already fucking ugly face of todays music, but to all you mainstream lovers its all good looking and clean.
John Chan | 2/13/2007, 8:13 pm EST
As for quality of the record, they may get a tie. But as for the influence, ok computer for sure!!
Frech Prince of Darkness | 2/13/2007, 8:15 pm EST
oh and to add to that, it’s scratched to shit now and I can’t listen to airbag anymore. I’m a starving student and I’m debating buying a new copy for that reason.
chAd i FInK | 2/13/2007, 8:17 pm EST
luv nirvanas nevermind but ok coMpUTer changed my life in so many ways opened my mind to more music more artists and it changed the way i even look at life thanks Thom Jonny Colin Phill and Ed also thank you Kurt RIP
Michael Wilson | 2/13/2007, 8:18 pm EST
It’s a matter of two completely different recording styles.
Nevermind is a better set of songs. The melodies are stronger, and the songs are more timeless.
OK Computer is more of a sounds record. Sure there are great melodies, but most of what people cite about being so brilliant about OK Computer, is indeed, more about production than songwriting.
And to the guy who said Husker Du and The Replacements were better than Nirvana, that’s incredibly false. I am well acquanted with both band’s works, and I can say objectively, that Nirvana far surpassed either band in terms of musical talent.
Anonymous | 2/13/2007, 8:25 pm EST
OK Computer is simply brilliant and gets better every time you listen. RADIOHEAD wins hands down.
wakeup | 2/13/2007, 8:28 pm EST
note: stop using this internets machine and the electronic world it connects you to,
it is not real.
Dee | 2/13/2007, 8:31 pm EST
OK COMPUTER compares with nothing else. So this is a waste of time. Radiohead have changed my apprediation of music. I give other bands the benefit of the doubt and my time, but nothing comes close to Radiohead. Nothing ever will.
Paranoid Mongoloid | 2/13/2007, 8:33 pm EST
OK Computer…Best album by ever. If you disagree, you obviously weren’t paying attention. Long live Radiohead!!!
me | 2/13/2007, 8:46 pm EST
way to hard for me to choose.
NENE | 2/13/2007, 8:48 pm EST
Nevermind is better, nevermind is atemporal… ok computer just in fine.
Ian | 2/13/2007, 8:51 pm EST
Nevermind was a great punk album, and it was lucky enough to strike a nerve with the world when it did which changed the music industry forever. OK Computer is a masterpiece not because it struck any nerve, but because its brilliant, calculated, more sophisticated. it chalenges not only the rock world but any musical world and can be put on the level of musical genious.
Under The Garden | 2/13/2007, 8:52 pm EST
I’ve heard a lot of alternative albums and none comes better than Ok Computer.
poisoned dwarf | 2/13/2007, 8:58 pm EST
OK Computer hands down. I’ve listened to both what seems like hundreds of times. I get tired of Nevermind, whereas OK Computer never gets old. It’s timeless. Look at the talent involved here. Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood are musical and lyrical (in Yorke’s case) geniuses. Jonny Greenwood can play any instrument you hand him. OK Computer has a message and is an *album*. The songs never get tiresome. Nevermind is a bunch of good songs strung together that wear themselves thin over time. Bottom Line–OK Computer is better both structurally and talent-wise, is smarter, and stands the test of time better.
Christopher | 2/13/2007, 9:12 pm EST
Simply put, Nevermind inspired me to buy a guitar, but Ok Computer inspired me to become a better guitarist/musician!
Under The Garden | 2/13/2007, 9:16 pm EST
fitter happier should be replaced with A Reminder
jk_amnesiac | 2/13/2007, 9:22 pm EST
Logan | 2/13/2007, 9:24 pm EST
Is this even a discussion? OK Computer puts every other album of the 90s to shame. The sounds and the artwork can’t ever be repeated nor come close to while Nevermind can- it is a great rock album, thats it, not the mythical status it is made out to be. OK Computer has inspired countless more musicians, and come on, just the simple fact that Christina Aguilera is probably listening to it while she has sex puts over the top.
OK Computer is the defining album of the decade dealing with everything from alienation to technology takeover, it was truly a picture of the 1990s. I don’t really care about smelling like some stupid teen deodarant brand “teen spirit.”
Ryan nn | 2/13/2007, 9:27 pm EST
A Reminder definitely would have worked on the album and its such a great b-side. but then i think all the ok computer b-sides are great. i’d like someone to check out whether nervana had several brilliant b-sides like Talk show host oozing out of their recording sessions. Goes to show they could have created 2 ok computers from one recording stint.
Although, i wouldn’t want to infer that they should have used a different song line-up because it all flows so well. i think fitter happier is necessary, otherwise the album runs the risk of being compared to other run of the mill rock albums… oh wait its being compared right now! snap
Anonymous | 2/13/2007, 9:27 pm EST
Radiohead = massively overrated
Jason King | 2/13/2007, 9:36 pm EST
Its clear that Nevermind is the better album.
Its the album of the ninetees, and it best describes that era. There are too many brits here obviously.
??? | 2/13/2007, 9:40 pm EST
this discussion forced me to listen to nevermind again. All i can say is that you would need another personality type to myself to enjoy that album more… possible the motley crue type. the lyrics make me want to follow Kurts classy exit strategum.
Yo Yo MAWMA | 2/13/2007, 9:44 pm EST
Obviously Ok Computer is the better album. It’s influence and strange supernatural abilities blows minds. Nevermind is a classic ROCK album whereas Ok Computer is a classic album no matter what you listen to. It just changes you.
Adam Kelly | 2/13/2007, 9:45 pm EST
Nirvana was a minimally talented band who wrote one or two somewhat catchy songs (albeit the songs were out of tune and un-musical). I’m happy if Nevermind was the soundtrack to your childhood, but come on, do you still watch Mr. Rodger’s Neighborhood? You’re sad, Rolling Stone…
matt S | 2/13/2007, 9:51 pm EST
Radiohead is by far one of the greatest bands ever and pretty much beat every modern band and it has been said on many occasions.Ok computer hands down wins for being genius and not some radio freindly crap grunge like nevermind. Radiohead 4 life
Sammy | 2/13/2007, 10:00 pm EST
What the hell is going on here. being a fan of both of these bands (my top 2 bands of all time) it saddens me to see this. Nirvana’s worst album against possibly the best album from Radiohead. Change Nevermind to In Utero and we have some trouble. Nevermind is pop not punk.
Another Radiohead Fan | 2/13/2007, 10:01 pm EST
To say that “there are too many Brits here” is pure fantasy on your part. I’m American and Radiohead completely changed the way I approch music, any music, with OK Computer. Nevermind is excellent rock and I’m extremely pleased that it took hold because without it almost all of the best music of the last decade and a half would’ve recieved no press or popularity. But this isn’t asking “which album was more important” or “which album was/is more influential”, it’s asking which is better and after listening to both a few times through it’s impossible FOR ME not to say OK Computer. I mean no insult, they’re both extremely important albums, I just happen to prefer one.
norichov | 2/13/2007, 10:10 pm EST
mmm…i love both of two albums.
to be honest, i am radiohead’s nut.
an aspect of description of their emotion, i choose “nevermind”.
laurents | 2/13/2007, 10:28 pm EST
It should have been amniciac vs in utero but thats a quality call.Nevermind is no match for ok computer but do you look for quality or popularity because than nirvana wins on populaity.Fuck radiohead stay solo just kidding but he maked a great album.
both are great | 2/13/2007, 10:35 pm EST
Both are great, but i would agree the Nirvana did better work than Nevermind. I think this debate is rather pointless but from a personal standpoint i think OK Computer wins on basis of music but what it seems many people are neglecting is how millions of teenagers in the 90’s were affected by Nirvana’s music. Nirvana’s music carried a powerful message that these teens identified with and it was accessible and easy to understand. Not that i don’t think Radiohead makes music of lesser quality, it is just much deeper and profound but because of this it isn’t as accessible. Nirvana was about expressing your emotions, the anger, and the raw power of it all. Radiohead is rather devoid of that raw emotion but is much more introspective and thoughtful. In the end it boils down to personal opinion on which music was better but i think overall musically and non musically Nirvana affected more people
pEdRo mAtEuS | 2/13/2007, 10:37 pm EST
1. Airbag vs Smells like Teen Spirit: Smells
2. Paranoid Android vs In bloom: Paranoid Android.
3. Subterranean Homesick Alien vs Come as you are: Subterranean Homesick Alien
4. Exit Music(for a Film) vs Breed: Exit Music
5. Let Down vs Lithium: Let down
6. Karma Police vs Polly: Karma Police
7. Fitterr Happier vs Territorial Pissings: Territorial Pissings
8. Electioneering vs Drain You: Electioneering
9. Climbing Up the Walls vs Lounge Act: Climbing Up the Walls
10. No Surprises vs Stay Away: No Surprises
11. Lucky vs On a Plain: Lucky
12. The Tourist vs Something in the way: The Tourist
Radiohead had changed my life,i’ve learned guitar because of OKComputer…they are the best band in the world!!!!if rolling stone magazine vote Nirvana i will kill myself!!!!
Ted Stickle | 2/13/2007, 10:47 pm EST
Well it looks like most reasonable people are chosing Radiohead. This brightens my view of the world just a little.
pEdRo mAtEuS | 2/13/2007, 10:48 pm EST
ohhh i was kidding:P…but radiohead all the way
looley | 2/13/2007, 10:49 pm EST
i think that ricky martins greatest hits is the best album ever and who are radiohead.i my god im gay
looley | 2/13/2007, 10:50 pm EST
i think that ricky martins greatest hits is the best album ever and who are radiohead.o my god im gay
OK!!!! | 2/13/2007, 10:50 pm EST
OK COMPUTER>>>>>>>>>>>NEVERMIND
Azad | 2/13/2007, 10:50 pm EST
They are both great albums, and I think people can be asshole and say whatever they want about each band and have there bias’s but I’m just going to be the nice guy and say in MY OPINION “OK COMPUTER” is the better album. There has been no band to have changes as drastic as Radiohead through all of their albums. This proves more than enough from angular computer-esque guitars to panicked keyboards. This album defies some gravity if there was such thing in the world of “songwriting.”
poisoned dwarf | 2/13/2007, 10:54 pm EST
I’m American, and it’s just common sense that OK Computer blows Nevermind out of the water easily. Radiohead puts Nirvana to shame.
OK Computer > Nevermind
Juan Ruiz | 2/13/2007, 10:55 pm EST
Radiohead by far are the most influential, unique and the greatest band of the nineties. Nevermind is a result of Sonic Youth, while OK Computer is a result of Radiohead.
OK COMPUTER >> NEVERMIND
in limbo | 2/13/2007, 10:56 pm EST
No competition, Radiohead wins easily. Nevermind was of the moment, OK Computer is timeless.
OK COMPUTER!!! | 2/13/2007, 10:57 pm EST
OK COMPUTER ALL THE WAY!!!!
ASS:i’M A PORTUGUESE FAN:)
JohnyJoe | 2/13/2007, 11:03 pm EST
I’ve always really, really liked Nirvana… but to be truthefull, I was never blown away by them. When I discovered Radiohead, I was overwhelmed (mainly because I got in the game late). I never used to like music like what is heard on OK Computer, and it completely changed not only what I listen to, but who I am. Nevermind was a fantastic album, but the personal impact was minimal, wheras OK Computer completely changed me (which is rare… but strangely seems to only happen with British bands…).
And… although I hate to say things like this… OK Computer had better guitaring and vocals. It was much more… melodical, as opposed to catchy. Basically, what I’m saying is, OK Computer’s atmosphere and… well… skillfull composition… is much stronger than Nevermind. The songs are more complex, the melodies are more moving, and the musical variety (not to mention quality) is way better.
Sorry Nirvana fans… my vote goes to Radiohead.
Anonymous | 2/13/2007, 11:37 pm EST
OK Computer has done for more for music than Nevermind. Grunge faded and was done away with, leaving no permanent marks. Even direct Nirvana spinoffs that have lasted through til today (Pearl Jam) have shed their grunge mantle. Musicians are no longer influenced by Nirvana. They are continually influenced by Radiohead, especially by OKC. Nevermind was part of a phase. OKC is timeless.
Me baby me | 2/13/2007, 11:39 pm EST
Radiohead…yay!!!
c'mon | 2/13/2007, 11:44 pm EST
clearly OK computer is a better CD, just listen to it…really listen, but as a better representation of music in the 90’s I think you have to go with Nevermind, OK computer is timeless and will always be a great CD but for the time I think you have to go with Nevermind.
Yeah | 2/13/2007, 11:44 pm EST
Nirvana = Hugely overrated.
And yes, Nevermind is not their best. I’m not sure OK Computer is Radiohead’s best. Even still OK C is better than anything Nirvana has done. Nirvana were good for their time and had some good records but i think ( and i forget which magazine ) ranking them as the number one band of all time was a huge stretch plus it goes to show how overrated they are. And that’s coming from a fan. But I digress. Nevermind was a tad overproduced. OK C is mindblowing. No question. Even Kurt Cobain wasn’t happy with how Nevermind turned out so there you go.
jack | 2/13/2007, 11:54 pm EST
parklife vs. coming up
Hey | 2/14/2007, 12:21 am EST
Nirvana’s Nevermind by far is the better album. Once again, 11,000,000 million people in the United States bought Nevermind. 2,000,000 bought Ok Computer. I guess the average common folk have now spoken:)Who cares what the rock critics say, the average people have proven through their buying power who was betetr and more influential.
Everything In Its Right Place | 2/14/2007, 12:22 am EST
OK Computer is definately better than Nevermind. Don’t get me wrong, Nevermind is a great album, and I think that it’s getting some backlash just because of its popularity. But listening to OK Computer is the best way to spend 53 minutes of your day.
Scotty D | 2/14/2007, 12:23 am EST
In a word… Radiohead! OK Computer is a rare piece of muscial brilliance that still puts shivers down my spine when I listen to it after all this time. So many great songs which take on a new life of their own when played live. A true mark of an all-time great and influential band!
Here in oz, it was recently voted 3rd best album of all time.
Paul | 2/14/2007, 12:25 am EST
I agree, both albums are good, but Nevermind has had bigger impact overtime. I always hear Nirvana songs on the radio. Rarely do I hear songs from Radiohead. Nevermind has even outsold Ok Conputer in its own country of Great Britain.
Bruce | 2/14/2007, 12:28 am EST
Definitely Nevermind. The album put rock back on the charts. Radiohead seems to have a loyal following of very dedicated fans, but long term Nevermind will be the album that is remembered. The next generation of teens is putting on Nevermind, not Ok Computer.
Will Fearless | 2/14/2007, 12:30 am EST
Nevermind knocked down the door for the 90’s alternative movement to survive and thrive. That being said, I think In Utero is the stronger Nirvana album. Ok Computer is the landmark album, a musical document that has yet to be topped. I think the marquee matchup is actually #6 Karma Police vs. Polly
Coming up next week: Battle of Brit Pop
Parklife vs. (What’s the Story) Morning Glory?
Radioman | 2/14/2007, 12:32 am EST
If this were a horse race, Radiohead would be Secretariat in the 73 Belmont ( a race which he won by 31 lenghts). Nevermind was pure rage and nihilism. Like reading Hemingway, I could really relate to Kurt’s darkness, but his art did not comfort me. OK Computer did not flinch at, or water down the same miserable world. However, like James Joyce or Tolkien, OK Computer also presents a strange beauty, which offers the listener a small, but very real ray of hope. The record allows one to escape not into the phony promises of heroin, but into the mystery of another world. Very few artists in any genre can pull this off. Seeing Radiohead during the summer of 97 was one of the best nights of my life. Couldn’t sleep for days after that show.
Kyle Upton | 2/14/2007, 12:33 am EST
I find it funny how Nirvana started as new and innovative, then once they became “popular” now people say they are overated. I hate people that say Nirvana is only big because Kurt killed himself. Nirvana had sold over 6 million of Nevermind and 2 million of In Utero before the band ever ended. And if you listen to their box set, Kurt was moving in a brilliant folk/rock direction similar to R.E.M. Just listen to their Unplugged Album and Do Re Mi from the Box Set. Nevermind wins by a mile.
Joey A. | 2/14/2007, 12:37 am EST
I have to go with Nevermind here….but I think Nirvana would be better compared to Pearl Jam. I think it would be better to compare the BANDS Nirvana to Radiohead, and not just individual albums. Nirvana’s Nevermind, In Utero, and Unplugged would be a hard trio of albums to compete with from the3 90’s.
90's Boy | 2/14/2007, 12:45 am EST
I grew up as a teenager and college student during the 90’s. I have to say from what I noticed the more artsey kids went for Radiohead and the more straight forward rock and punk rock kids went for Nirvana. Overall, Nevermind seems to have been more influential, popular, whatever dam word you wanna use.
Debbie | 2/14/2007, 12:46 am EST
Dam I hate contests. This is all a matter of opinion folks. My vote goes to Nevermind and Nirvana.
Madboy84 | 2/14/2007, 12:48 am EST
OMG Nevermind by a long mile here
Aphix Lewis | 2/14/2007, 12:56 am EST
Loveless by My Bloody Valentine……
allaplgies | 2/14/2007, 12:56 am EST
When comparing bands, I think there are three criteria to look at:
1. Overall sales
2. Effect on the music culture
3. Long term influence.
Results:
1. Nirvana has sold more than Radiohead worldwide
2. Tie here…both bands have influenced the music world greatly.
3. Long term influence. Hard to determind here. Nevermind has been out for 16 years and Ok Computer only 10 years. Most bands always have ups and down in popularity over time. Ok Computer may seem more relevant to some fans because it is more recent and they may have not been old enough to realize the impact of Nevrmind in the early 90’s.
I was old enough to appreciate both albums. If I had to choose one: NEVERMIND
Bryce | 2/14/2007, 1:04 am EST
Close call here, but Nevermind gets my vote
matt | 2/14/2007, 1:13 am EST
okc obviously. nirvana wrote some good songs with lots of power chords and chorus heavy guitar. radiohead broke musical barriers by incorporating a variety of stylistic elements into their song writing kurt cobain never dreamed about. also, nobody has topped nigels production on okc to date, not even himself (in my humblest of opinions). it’s fitting that the two bands in question as best album of the 90’s paid so much respect the pixies though, pretty sure both worship(ed) the ground frank black walked on.
nirvana is still awesome though.
.9.0.9 | 2/14/2007, 1:17 am EST
OK Computer by a long shot. Nevermind seems so dated now, OK Computer is timeless. It was years ahead when it was released.
Paul | 2/14/2007, 1:18 am EST
I’m still confused why some think more technical production or advanced guitar playing means “superior music”. Some of the biggest and most influential songs in history have been simple songs. I am at least glad, whether you support Nevermind or Ok Computer that most realize both these albums are definitely top of the 90’s. My vote still goes to Nevermind
Ray | 2/14/2007, 1:24 am EST
Nevermind in my opinion. I totally disagree with people that say one album or the other wins by a mile or long shot. Both were excellent and influential albums. I tend to think people are just blind or brainwashed when absolue statements like this are made. You may favor one album or the other, but neither has blown the other out of the water.
Bruce | 2/14/2007, 1:31 am EST
I am curious, for those of you who think Nevermind or Ok Computer should be #1, do you think the other album comes in 2nd or 3rd for most influential or do you think it doesn’t even belong in the competition?
Radio"fan"atic | 2/14/2007, 1:34 am EST
Any 90’s rock fan would agree that both bands changed our lives completely and inspired us to continue living, however, finally there is no equality as both are very different in all aspects…my choice: OK COMPUTER, afterall, Radiohead are living Gods from another planet
Doug | 2/14/2007, 1:35 am EST
If Nevermind’s sound is familiar now, it’s only because thousands of rock records that followed it were trying very hard to cop its style. It tears out of the speakers like a cannonball, from the punk-turbo-charged riff of “Smells Like Teen Spirit” onward, magnifying and distilling the wounded rage of 15 years of the rock underground into a single impassioned roar. Few albums have occupied the cultural consciousness like this one; of its 12 songs, roughly 10 are now standards. The record’s historical weight can make it hard to hear now with fresh ears, but the monumental urgency of Kurt Cobain’s screams is still shocking. –Douglas Wolk
Bruce | 2/14/2007, 1:38 am EST
LOL…..I like Nirvana over Radiohead, but anyone that thinks their favorite band is a “living God from another planet” has gone too far:)
David Baker | 2/14/2007, 1:42 am EST
“Nevermind” still sounds fresh. How? Nirvana were just that damn good. Dave Grohl’s drumming was not only powerful, but lightning-speed fast (my personal pick for the greatest drummer ever). Krist Novoselic’s bass skills were amazing, melodic, furious, and catchy. And Kurt Cobain, well, what can’t you say about the guy? I can sit here and say all these great (and true) things about Kurt, but I’ll leave it at this: there is a reason Kurt is a legend, and this was proven numerous times before his unfortunate passing. All the classics are here, “In Bloom”, “Lithium”, “Come As You Are” (my personal favorite from the band), and, of course, “Smells Like Teen Spirit”. But the album as a whole is amazing. “Drain You” is one of the best Alternative songs ever made. “Breed”, “Territorial Pissings”, and “Stay Away” are punk rock perfection. “Something In The Way” is haunting (it’s far superior on their “Unplugged In New York” album), while “Polly” is a glimpse of Cobain’s “softer” side at it’s best. Even the worst ones here, “Lounge Act” and “On A Plane”, are better than anything Creed will ever do (I guess that isn’t saying much, but you get the point, those two songs are still brilliant). Cobain was a brilliant singer-songwriter, he could be filled with rage and self-doubt one second (”Smells Like Teen Spirit” and “Something In The Way”) and be funny the next (”Breed” and “Lithium”). From lines like “Here we are now, entertain us” to “I’m so ugly, that’s okay, ’cause so are you”, not many could even come close to the talent of Kurt Cobain. From start to finish, Nirvana made one of those rare albums that manages to pull everything out of the bare essentials (guitars, bass, drums) and make an absolute classic out of it. Some of these songs sound better on the band’s live albums, and even “In Utero” was just as good as “Nevermind” (despite what some say), and even those two albums put together could not equal “Unplugged In New York”; but this still stands as a landmark for not only rock, but music in general. It was talent beyond anything mortal, that’s for sure.
Peter Grape | 2/14/2007, 1:45 am EST
In the movie Almost Famous, the character Lester Bangs declares that in 1973, “rock is dead”. Perhaps he was correct in that statement. Perhaps “rock” really was dead in 1973. That’s perfectly fine with me. But in September of 1991 when this album was released, something called “grunge” was about to emerge, and “grunge” definitely sounded like rock’s kid brother.
At first glance, and listen, this album is hard to understand, and hard to get into… That is all part of its pure genius. If you buy this album, listen to songs like “Polly” or “Lithium” while looking at the lyrics online…you’ll be able to scratch the surface of perhaps the most damaged soul to ever step on stage.
This album follows the masterpiece of an album “Bleach” which was not very commercially successful, but is a staple addition to any Nirvana fan’s collection. “Nevermind” literally is Kurt Cobain. In every sense of the word. It is his magnum opus, his Mona Lisa. Kurt painted a picture of a person with so much pain and suffering, without actually picking up a paintbrush. This album is the early 90’s, and this album is Kurt Cobain. If you are interested in one of the most influential records to come out of the past 20 years, Nevermind is what you are looking for.
Nevermind is exactly what the everyday CD purchasing-aholic is looking for. A CD with influence, pizzazz, a famous icon at the forefront, countless behind the scenes stories and innuendoes, a single that changed the course of popular music as we know it, “Smells Like Teen Spirit”, and several other stellar songs surrounding it on the playlist. What makes Nevermind such a good buy is simple really, every song is a classic, and every song stands out for some reason or another as good. Highlight’s include the previously stated “Polly” and “Lithium”, along with “Come As You Are” and the less popular but equally amazing, “Territorial Pissings”.
To finish up, if you enjoy rock and roll music, want to hear some of the best music to come out of the last 20 years, are interested in finding out why RollingStone Magazine chose Nevermind as the 17th greatest album of all time, out of 500, you should purchase this album.
Daniel | 2/14/2007, 1:48 am EST
Ok computer reflects an era, modern times, people, cities, 90’s and the future. Cobain is bigger than Radiohead, but OK Computer is bigger than Nevermind. Let Down says it all.
K. Mertz | 2/14/2007, 1:48 am EST
It’s the essential Nirvana. The album that started it all. You can play it when you’re sad, happy, pissed off… whatever, and it fits.
A Paranoid Android | 2/14/2007, 1:50 am EST
OK Computer by a landslide. Sure some Nirvana songs may be better than their radiohead counterparts but as a complete album? Come on now…The themes and stories flowing through OK Computer are endless- I don’t see anything in Nevermind.
OK Computer is the greatest and most influential album of the last 20 years hands down.
Todd Ebert | 2/14/2007, 1:55 am EST
At first I was going to rate this recording with 4 stars, but decided otherwise while reflecting on the creativity, originality, and overall influence this recording has had in the pop/rock music world over the past decade. I suppose one can debate the degree of creativity and originality. Nirvana themselves were always quick to give credit to their influences which included The Ramones, Meat Puppets, Husker Du, and The Vasolines. But in my opinion I don’t think one can underestimate Kurt’s talent both as a musician and songwriter. It probably seems more obvious when listening to the follow-up recording In Utero, since Nevermind does suffer somewhat from a “mersh” sound production quality. In any case, the playing of drummer Dave Grohl and bassist Chris Novoselic on this recording prove that Nirvana had paid their dues in spending years honing their musical crafts. Like other notable trios, Nirvana understood that percussion and bass should stand out more in a trio setting. And Grohl and Novoselic seem to relish their roles.
May be the proof of the originality and creativity of this band lies in the fact that one would be hard pressed to finger obvious historical precedents to such original songs as Come as You are, Breed, In Bloom, Lithium, and Polly. Sure, the blueprints had been laid by the above mentioned influences, but the value added by Nirvana cannot be underestimated; especially by the way of Kurt’s poetic lyrics.
This recording represents a very good starting point for appeciating Nirvana. But of course it should be followed by In Utero which has significantly more passion, energy, and better sound production. I suppose if this recording gets five stars, then In Utero gets 6 or 7. It is admittedly my first choice of listen should I be in the mood for Nirvana.
In closing I would just like to add that music is a form of art, and it makes no sense to create a linear ordering (where every pair of artists must be compared as better or worse) on the set of musicians. Why is it so difficult to appreciate all of following artists without slamming one versus the other: Mozart, Jimi Hendrix, Miles Davis, Metallica, Nirvana? Why is it that in a supposedly free society some people seem so in a hurry to close their minds to music and other art forms? Ah…Nevermind.
Ryan D. | 2/14/2007, 2:00 am EST
Ok Computer the most “influential recording of the past 20 years”…c’mon man. Where were you in the early 90’s. Nevermind gets that title.
Borgy | 2/14/2007, 2:03 am EST
I’ve noticed how it’s a trend now to bash this album because apperantly it’s now overated, just like it was a trend to listen to the album when it came out cause grunge was in and “Smells Like Teen Spirit” was everywhere.
Well, i’ll tell you why this album isnt overated to begin with…. The songs all have incredible melodies, and the song order is perfect, the guitar is simple and powerful (a wall of sound), the drums are hit with force that ups the power to incredible levels and the bass is grooving along under the mix, it’s a masterwork of both the band and producer Butch Vig and that’s another thing you’ll notice, the production of this record still sounds good after all these years, and there is only 1 other album from 1991 i can think of that holds that honour (RHCP’s – Blood Sugar Sex Magik).
Sure this album has attained a legendary status, but really you don’t have to listen to it just because it’s considerd a classic album, if you like all the singles from the album “Smells Like Teen Spirit”, “Come As You Are”, “Lithium” and “In Bloom” there is a strong chance you’ll like this album, if you only like Teen Spirit, well just stick to that song.
S. Jorgensen | 2/14/2007, 2:05 am EST
this album was released in 1991 and almost immediately reached incredible success, which only skyrocketed into the stratosphere of legends including the likes of Jimi Hendrix and Led Zeppelin following Kurt Cobain’ death. Usually when I hear someone comment on this album they either say that Kurt (for some reason never Nirvana) is a poser, sell out, etc., or that he was some sort of boy-genius/messiah figure capable of all except fault. This album is great and so is Nirvana–not just Kurt Cobain. The band is not great because any of its members are a god, but because they wrote amazing songs. None of the members were virtuosos; the songs are, in fact, quite simple, but in their simplicity lies the bands talent. The riffs are grungey, but very catchy–almost as catchy as the lyrics. Although this is not Nirvana’s best work (if you want songs that actually might be genius, buy the box set) is an amazing album that deserves your money.(Ignore your dumb indie-obsessed friends’ scoffs)
Scott B. Saul | 2/14/2007, 2:07 am EST
This cd absolutely, 100% lives up to it’s hype.
Not only does it have a collection of great, dynamic, and energetic songs but, it also was pivotal in it’s release.
Just as “Never Mind the Bollock’s, Here’s the Sex Pistols” did in the 1970’s, “Nevermind” did for the 1990’s.
Nevermind changed the landscape of music.
“Nevermind” is essential listening in the history of rock and roll.
Cobain killing himself even made the work that much more monu
My Opinion | 2/14/2007, 2:10 am EST
Coming of age in the 90’s gives me the advantage of having real perspective on the impact Nevermind had on the music scene. Rose-colored nostalgia aside, it’s hard to imagine how the decade would have played out had Nevermind not become such a roaring success. Some people hate this band (you can’t please everybody), but to deny this album’s importance in regards to popular music borders on slander. It changed a significant fraction of the landscape, and no amount of Cobain-bashing will change that fact. It’s the way it is. Period.
Historical props aside, this a damn fine album. I personally prefer In Utero, but Nevermind still remains one of my favorite albums. Cobain’s natural gift for melody really shines through here. It’s pop-rock with a dark edge. Technically speaking, he wasn’t the best guitar player in the world, but the emphasis was on feeling instead of meandering, self-congratulatory showmanship. Eat your heart out, Malsteem.
Chris Novoselic moves the album along with his steady bass grooves, and Dave Grohl is recognized by even the most rabid Nirvana haters as one of the most talented drummers of his generation.
It kind of saddens me when I see younger kids place Nirvana alongside such second-rate garbage as Godsmack and Fall Out Boy, because they’re in an entirely different class from one another. School yourself and recognize the difference.
On a side note, if you missed the boat and want to see what it was all about in the early 90’s, check out the film “Hype.”
digitaldragon03 | 2/14/2007, 2:11 am EST
I see alot of people citing that Nevermind sold alot more than OK Computer did, and thus is a better record.
You know who else sold a lot of records in the 90’s?
Kid Rock
Limp Bizkit
Both of these bands had their “moment” in the 90’s. (Nirvana earlier, Kid/Bizkit later) They both influenced music for a short while afterward. Both were likely a result of Korn. (As Nirvana was a result of other grunge/pop bads) Do you really hold these bands to be the best of the 90’s?
OK Computer transcends age, generation, and time. It is THE album that stands out in the 90’s that was loved then, now, and in the future.
Nathan Dodds | 2/14/2007, 2:12 am EST
Every once in a while, a really great album comes along and changes your life. I remember 1991 well and I still believe Nevermind is the greatest album of all time. Ok so Kurt Cobain wasn’t the greatest guitar player ever and he couldn’t really sing. But in my opinion that is not what makes a truly great album anyway. He wrote great songs, that are catchy, emotional and will stay in your head for a long long time.Credit must go to producer Butch Vig for bringing out the best in Nirvana. In my opinion Nirvana are the most influencial band since the Beatles, not necessarily the best, but they left a lasting impression on me. I still listen to this album today and love it as much as the day I bought it all those years ago. I just can’t wait to see the look on my kids faces when I play it to them for the first time.
Shy Dylan | 2/14/2007, 2:15 am EST
O.K, indubitably!!
Radiohead also as band.
Nathan Dodds | 2/14/2007, 2:15 am EST
Nevermind is no differnt. It also transcends generations. Neevermind CONTINUES to sell well today with new generations discovering Nirvana’s music every year. Nevermind had influence in the past, today, amd will in the future. 11 million to 2 million isn’t even close.
Bruce | 2/14/2007, 2:17 am EST
Nevermind continues to sell well today with new generations of fans discovering Nirvana every year. Nevermind also transcends genarations and was important in the past, today, and will be in the future. 11 million to 2 million isn’t even close.
digitaldragon03 | 2/14/2007, 2:20 am EST
Kid Rock’s “Devil Without A Cause” has sold 11 million records in less time than “Nevermind”.
Both captured a snapshot of rock in the 90’s.
No way in hell would i consider Kid Rock’s effort to be even remotley close to Nevermind.
Sales mean nothing.
Luke Fortier | 2/14/2007, 2:22 am EST
This one is funny to me. OK Computer is Radiohead’s masterpeice and Nevermind is great, but I believe In Utero is better and Unplugged is Nirvana’s masterpeice. These are my two favorite bands when it all comes down to it between these two disc just put them both in and enjoy, competing for #1 would not suit both Radiohead or Nirvana.
Natalie | 2/14/2007, 2:22 am EST
I was 16 when Nevermind was released and I loved it then and I love it now. For me this is something I can listen to the whole way through without skipping songs. I think the 12 songs on this CD have aged quite well and fit well in any rock fans collection.
I have read the last 300 reviews and many people don’t know what they are talking about. I didn’t realize how polarizing this album was.
Music shouldn’t be about technical guitar prowess or a 5 octave vocal range or hair spray. People shouldn’t be caught up with genre labels like grunge, punk, emo, hair metal, nu-metal, alternative. Reviews of music shouldn’t comment on the personal lives of the artist’s drug use, death, or bizarre choice of mate. You shouldn’t even care about how tastes in fashion and music changed after this (and other “grunge” acts) came onto the scene.
It should be about the songs and how you relate to them personally. If you don’t like this that is fine, but the other superfluous [...]shouldn’t be relevant in the discussion of the album, please feel free to get a MySpace account and [...]about it there.
Paranoid mexican | 2/14/2007, 2:22 am EST
There is no way, Radiohead and ok computer are so much better, Nevermind sold a lot of albums but ok computer gave music for that bands that are in the top right now around the world
Bruce | 2/14/2007, 2:26 am EST
Yes I agree….sales are not everthing. But they they are SOMETHING. You say KId rock has sold 11 million and this is not important. Well if its so easy to sell 11 million then why hasn’t OK Computer done so. Selling records is OK folks. As long as your true to yourself and your values, if people still buy your stuff then great. Rolling Stone has asked which band is more influential here. Clearly sales is a prt of that. PLus Nirvana’s media hype is gone now. They are not being played on MTV 24/7, in fact they never are, yet they continue to sell well.
Preston | 2/14/2007, 2:29 am EST
Nirvana’s 1991 album Nevermind is still one of the ’90s best albums to me. It just jumped right out of left field. I didn’t hear it until 1992, but I was just blown away by the riffs and well recorded songs. There’s a rawness to this album that doesn’t let go! Smells Like Teen Spirit is still fresh 15 years later, as well as Lithium, Polly, the more poppish Come as You Are, On A Plane and others. One of two surprises that also stand out is Territorial, which zooms so fast at 115 mph in its sound and how they slow the speed down dramatically as if a record player is turned off. Kurt Cobain’s screaming like crazy after the first minute. It sounds as if you’re hearing the guitars mashed right up very close to the amplifiers, all the screeches and the like! It makes for a great song without the typical formulaic verse/chorus/verse songs we’re used to hearing. Another surprise is the quiet ballad, Something in the Way and its acoustic feel. Melodic and well written. I never thought that Nirvana would pull it off on that song–I thought they were mostly loud all the time, but this is one of their best songs from their catalog. The album’s Kurt Cobain all throughout, but Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic were superb on the lead guitars and drums that dominate this effort. It has really had an impact on Dave’s current success with the Foo Fighters. The songwriting from Cobain was different, but top notch. After Nevermind, nearly every alternative band except Pearl Jam was copying its sounds and textures. Some succeeded and some failed. This album helped make alternative music dominate 6 years of the ’90s, yet it balanced well with the R&B ballads, rap, dance and pop artists that dominated the decade. Although Cobain is no longer with us, this album keeps his and his band’s spirit completely alive. Ten to 20 years from now, they’re still going to be talking about this album. Kurt didn’t expect the multi-platinum success it got, but people still love it, still buy it and are still playing it. It is one of the 20th century’s best albums, artistic, aggressive and chance taking.
lonewolf | 2/14/2007, 2:31 am EST
The Nevermind cd is one of the greatest cds ever made. i grew up listening to this cd and still it amazes me. kurt cobain was such a talented artist…its a shame hes gone. but he still lives on through his music. this cd will go down in history as one of the greatest cd ever made, make no mistake. so if you want to listen to some real, heartfelt music. pick this up.
Roosson | 2/14/2007, 2:33 am EST
When I bought Nevermind I had only heard 3 songs from it and thought that the rest won’t be so good. I couldn’t have been more wrong. Sure “Smells Like Teen Spirit” is awesome, but remember it’s just the first track on the album, what follows is something truly amazing. There is no bad song on this album. The journey from the hard rocking “Smells Like Teen Spirit” to acoustic ballad “Polly” to haunting “Something In The Way” is a unique ride filled with some of the most memorable songs you’ll ever hear. The cd as whole is just brilliant.
Matthew Bialer | 2/14/2007, 2:35 am EST
I first heard NEVERMIND in September, 1991. It was about a month before they broke big. A good friend told me about the record. We were both big Replacements fans and this record was like nothing either of us had ever heard before. It was the Replacements on ‘Roids. It was hard to find other music to compare it to. Yeah, bands like Mudhoney and other grunge bands were the “in” thing. But this music was hard,subliminal, emotional, substantial, catchy and exciting. I just instantly knew that this record was a classic and something new. I like to think of this record as a beginning and an end. It summed up a lot of what had been going on in music from the Replacements and Husker Du to Dinosaur Jr. to the Minutemen. And yet an element of the Beatles was added. And Neil Young. And Classic Roots Rock. And Punk. A door was clearly busted open. Guns n Roses were immediately dated. Michael Jackson fell off the charts. Music was new again and yet here was a band that liked Zep, Beatles, Bowie, Abba, Iggy, Sabbath, Classic Punk….They made it cool and commonplace to combine all of these elements. In 2006 it seems OK for hipsters to like Bruce Springsteen and Mister Johnny Cash. I think this is at least partially because a band of Nirvana’s stature made it cool to embrace America’s Punk, Metal and Roots rock traditions. Nirvana broke through and we are all the better for it!
Wowzas | 2/14/2007, 2:40 am EST
Nevermind is a landmark achievement that should be heard by the masses.It is considered THE GREATEST ALTERNATIVE ALBUM OF ALL TIME.
Kid's opinion | 2/14/2007, 2:40 am EST
I use to trash Nirvana when other people talked about them (even though i had never heard a Nirvana song) But one day I heard “Smells like teen spirit” on the radio. I have been obsessive with Nirvana ever since. Every song on Nevermind is great, I could listen to it for a VERY long time and not get bored. No wonder Nevermind was voted in the top ten best albums of the 90’s. I give this album 5 stars, it’s worth every penny. Listen to this album, it will change you’re life.
School Boy | 2/14/2007, 2:44 am EST
Well, I guess I’m only 15, so I didn’t really grow up with Nirvana I guess… although, I can imagine that would be pretty awesome, but I think Nirvana is amazing! Kurt Cobain has such an amazing talent vocally, I absolutely love the fact that his voice is in so many songs highly incoherant screaming… it really makes the songs sound amazing and gives each one a superbly powerful sound and feel to it, and David Grohl’s drumming is completely stunning… especially the beat in “Smells Like Teen Spirit.” Not to say that Smells Like Teen Spirit is the best song on this album; some of the best on this album are one’s that no one ever seems to mention at all (Take Lounge Act, Drain You, and On A Plane… and of course the excellent screaming of Cobain in Lithium “I’M NOT GONNA CRACK!”) Truly a superb album, and one can only thank God that Nirvana destroyed the horrible hair band 80’s and crushed every last of those remaining, a pity Cobain died in ‘94 and Pearl Jam eventually came down as well in ‘96… I could only imagine my sheer joy if Grundge were to rule the world right now, instead of horrible rap, pop, Emo, Green Day, Fallout Boy, etc etc. Anywho, I think some people really underestimate Nirvana’s staying power… I know a TON of people in school who have heard Nirvana before and agree that they’re amazing… but anywho, I guess not much else can be done but an aplause for Nirvana… Kurt Cobain is a rare one that comes only one in a million… I can only pray that our generation will be able to proudly stand up and say that we had a spokesperson for our generation that was as amazing and influential as Kurt Cobain… the 60’s had Bob Dylan and The Beatles, 70’s had Ramones and Queen, 80’s had Michael Jackson (in his prime) and Rolling Stones and Bon Jovi… 90’s had Nirvana and Pink Floyd…. and us? The Future of music looks bleak… but maybe by some wild chance, in the next 3 years before I graduate high school…. there will be an equivalant Kurt Cobain… time can only tell. But for now, Nevermind = One of the greatest albums of all time. *Thumbs up to “Generation X” er whatever you call people during that time
Jason Dose (Waterboy) | 2/14/2007, 2:46 am EST
Like my parents remembering where they were when JFK was shot, so I remember where I was when I first heard Nevermind (In Troy’s truck smoking a jay after work) back in ‘91. From the opening riff of “Smells Like Teen Spirit” to the last breath of “Something in the Way” I had as close to a religious experience I’ve ever had. This album transcends music tastes, in that, EVERYONE bought this album. And, they listened to it front to back. Every song. I admit, the radio over-play kind of killed it for me for a few years but, I put the album in now (CD this time) and every song still rings as angry, depressed, and loud as ever. Buy it.
Zachary A. Hanson | 2/14/2007, 2:53 am EST
Some say that Kurt is responsible for the lame trends in “Nu Metal, Pop Punk, Emo, Rap Metal, [and] Alternative.” Quite the statement! I wish I knew what “Nu Metal” bands come straight from Nirvana. If I knew of that band, I might give it a chance. Kid Rock comes from his Nirvana influence? Hardly. More like Hank, Jr. and AC/DC. “Emo” and “alternative” were already alive and well before Kurt played his first show. You’re just talking about the lame bands that get called that, completely unoriginal bands like Blink 182 and Sugar Ray. Kurt is hardly responsible for them. As for good alternative and emo bands, Fugazi’s first album was out before _Bleach_, and if you don’t appreciate that, I have a hard time considering you a true fan of rock, “grunge” or otherwise. Alternative music was thriving before Nirvana, with REM and U2 already topping the charts and many more to come.
Blaming Nirvana for all the crappy music after them is like blaming Elvis for all of the crappy rock and roll after him. _Nevermind_, while not as raw as _Bleach_ and not as sprawling as _In Utero_ was something quite original in its time, something brimming with the angst that many of us felt and had a hard time putting into words. “Something in the Way” still makes me want to cry. Sure, I’m bored with “Teen Spirit” by now, just like I am bored with “I Wanna Hold Your Hand.” It doesn’t make them bad songs; it makes them overplayed. There are a good handful of songs on this one you never hear on the radio, definitely making it worthwhile to pick up, either to revisit or to discover.
Roadkillrage | 2/14/2007, 2:57 am EST
Like one poster pointed out before me, yes, basically everyone has owned this album at least one point in their life. And why not? “Smells Like Teen Spirit” is no doubt one of the most important rock singles of all time. Do we all like it? No, but that doesn’t take away from the importannce or impact that it had on our culture.
Yes, Nirvana went on to create better albums: “In Utero” was a punk/noise masterpiece, and “Unplugged in NYC” is classic Nirvana stripped down. Despite all that, this album has it’s charm. Catchy, noisy, rocking and beautiful all rolled into a delicious package complete with a naked baby chasing a dollar on the cover.
Yes, we all have grown EXTREMELY tired of this album, and quite frankly, who hasn’t. But that doesn’t take away from the fact that the excellent songwriting is still there. Listen to the haunting “Something In The Way”, and you’ll realize Nirvana was more than the unlikely singles which spawned generations of imitators which would ultimately lead “grunge” to it’s overexposure.
However, songs like “In Bloom” inspired bands like Puddle of Mudd to exist. Kurt Cobain would be rolling over in his grave. People often forget songs like “Territorial Pissings” or the secret song off this album, a noise-filled punk band influenced by the Sabbath and the Melvins, ready to shove the hook right in your face.
It’s easy to just brush this album aside due to it’s popularity, but inside there is one of the most classic albums ever created, not a bad song on it. Maybe somebody did it better, maybe Nirvana stole some riffs, but they weren’t Nirvana, and they didn’t put out this album.
Frederick Baptist | 2/14/2007, 2:59 am EST
Sure they borrowed from a lot of other acts but so did those acts borrow from others and on and on it goes but does that mean that Nirvana isn’t great or that this album is overrated? Definitely not!
If you believe that then you’ll have to say that Eric Clapton sucks and is overrated because he copied B.B. King, Albert Collins, Freddie King, and countless others. Why stop there? B.B. King sucks because he copied Muddy Waters. Muddy Waters sucks because he copied Robert Johnson and the other Delta Blues singers….etc, etc. How about David Bowie? He openly admits that nothing he does is original but he borrows from various influences and so does he suck and does that make “Ziggy Stardust…Mars” one of the rock classic albums of all time a bad album?
All music irrespective of genre is built upon the work of others and unless you totally and utterly rip off someone and infringe on copyright, you are building on something and eventually making it your own. This album isn’t overrated and every track is a genre standard. 17 years on, the only problem with this album is that it needs some remastering although I know Kurt himself wouldn’t agree as he hated the polished sound and tried to remedy it with a very raw and yet awesome sounding “In Utero” but you can’t really compare the 2 and they are both awesome in their own right i.e. you don’t have to hate the one to like the other.
I’ve already started seeing on more recent best of albums lists compiled by renowned music critics where this album is among the top 10 albums of all time along with albums by the Stones and the Beatles and I for one am not surprised
Phil | 2/14/2007, 3:05 am EST
Nevermind and Ok Computer are both important albums of all time. Can’t say which one is better because they are different types of muisc released at different times and in different scenarios
Radiohead. Logan | 2/14/2007, 3:24 am EST
OK Computer was a life changing record. I can still put it on and get the exact same feeling when I put it on when I got my hands on it. The only song that did it for me with Nirvana’s Smell’s like Teen Spirit. That gets me everytime, but when Charlie Hunter Trio already did the rift for that song before, it lost all it’s credibility. Art rock is so much more expanse and lasts for a long time. Who doesn’t remember the experimentalism in the 70’s? King Crimson anyone?
Miss Influence | 2/14/2007, 4:08 am EST
I’ll tell you the influence Radiohead’s OK Computer had on me. I was 7 years old and The Spice Girls were my favourite band in the world. Then suddenly, my mom got a present, named Ok Computer. So I thought I’d listen to it. Even though I was just 7 years old, and there’s no way you can understand much about that album on that age, it still changed my whole taste in music. When I was 11 I saw them live, and hearing songs like exit music (for a film) and airbag live made me realise they were the best band in the world. And my mind hasn’t changed, they still are. Also I think I would have missed out on this great boyfriend I have if it wasn’t for Radiohead. So Radiohead is still influencing me. I love Nevermind, but compared to Ok Computer, my favourite album in the world, it stands no chance.
My Opinion | 2/14/2007, 4:54 am EST
If there was no Nevermind, there was no Pablo Honey so there was no Radiohead. However Radiohead is my favorite band and OK Computer my favorite recording, Nirvana is the fundament for Radiohead’s succes.
Conclusion: Nevermind is the most influential recording of the 90’s.
matuca | 2/14/2007, 5:30 am EST
Compare Radiohead to Nirvana is similar to compare The Doors,Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin (american rock) to The Beatles and Stones (british rock). They are different, culturally and both are important to the alternative rock history.
Joker | 2/14/2007, 5:43 am EST
Neither.
The best,most influential and essential album of de 90’s is this one:
ACHTUNG BABY!!!!!
iluvya | 2/14/2007, 6:13 am EST
Ok computer without doubt!
I discovered MUSIC with RADIOHEAD, before them I lived in hell. Now I live in limbo.
nezzza | 2/14/2007, 6:28 am EST
nirvana this, nirvana that. They only became ‘cool’ because kurt decided to blow his head off, how rock and roll… That album was tired when it came out let alone now.
And stop mentioning u2 they have one sound that they have regurgitated time after time, couldn’t come up with anything new or intelligent if world peace and famine depended on it. They’re on par with oasis, truly awful.
Ok computer was then and still is now years beyond any other.
Johnny | 2/14/2007, 6:35 am EST
Somewhere down there a poster wrote that these two albums are incomparable like jimi hendrix or joplin was incomparable to the beatles or rolling stones because they were just so different. The intro to this discussion implied that this debate is a refresher from the old ‘beatles v. rolling stones’ debate. Both of these debates are remarkably similar and from the various discussions ive had, it seems to always come down to how raw you like your music. The rolling stones were the raw band and the beatles were self-proclaimed artists constantly progressing. Just as nirvana kept more or less the same sound throughout their career, the rolling stones kept about the same sound. If you were to compile a one-CD beatles compilation, your mind would turn itself around in a frenzy by the end of it; “i wanna hold your hand” and “i am the walrus” sound like they come from different dimensions. “thinking about you” and “packt like sardines” could have been written by two separate people from different planets. That is why the beatles and radiohead will ‘win’ everytime–whether or not it is recognized:They have simply influenced music and people in so many different ways. One can progress with radiohead (and the beatles) from the youth of pablo to the adult confusion of amnesiac (or however you would describe them). Teens listening to Help! listened to Sgt pepper as mature adults, and theyre ear matured along the way, just as the band did. Same with radiohead. Not the same for nirvana or the rolling stones. they were the same throughout their career and you could have a fresh ear listen random songs throughout their careers and that ear would be nonethewiser.
OKC | 2/14/2007, 6:36 am EST
I bet most people on this board who say Nevermind never really listened to OKComputer.
Nirvana used to be my number 1 band and is still among my favorites, but now that i am older it doesnt really have the same impact on me as back when i was a teenager. I played Nevermind over a billion times and it is still an enjoyable album to listen to, but it lacks the cleverness of OKC.
OKC has alot more layers and is complex, essential and beautiful in both themes and music, something which Nevermind isn’t. Every sound and bleep fits in OKC as opposed to the simple chord progressions from Nevermind. It’s far less accessible, but because of that the more beautiful. If you judge this soly by sales numbers, then yes Nevermind wins. If you ask someone who really played both records uncountable times, then OKC blows Nevermind away
johnny | 2/14/2007, 6:39 am EST
the debate between these albums is simpler. I will say radiohead, you will say nevermind. I will say fresh and complex, you will say real and raw. Debating is just masturbating with the mess.
Daniel Bozi | 2/14/2007, 6:56 am EST
When Kurt Cobain killed himself, there were several cultural profiles in the grunge world who wanted to raise a statue of him in the city centre of Seattle. At some stage, the issue was even on the mayor’s agenda. However, no such statue was ever raised, and after a short time, the whole issue was more or less forgotten.
This is what happens with social phenomena that are inherently stuck to the current popular trend – in this case the grunge movement of the early 90’s.
On the other hand, OK Computer was not a fruit of a popular musical trend, nor was it the starting point of any musical trend. It was – and is – simply a musical wonder.
It is true that Nevermind has inspired a whole lot of musicians and consequently contributed to the development of rock music in the 90’s. But would our concept of rock be so different if Nevermind was never recorded? I am actually not sure of that.
The reason is that Nevermind does not contain any mental challenge, no analysis of the present world and no poetic lyrics. The greatness of Nevermind lies more with the slam-dancing drunken teenager, than with the carefully listening music lover.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to write negatively about anyone – I myself was that slam-dancing drunken teenager once, and Nevermind was indeed number one for me during quite a while.
But ever since the release of OK Computer, there has been a never ending stream of film producers, theatre producers, choreographers, and basically all kind of artists, who even today claim to be influenced by Radiohead’s music.
It is an album which is much more has survived the test of time. Let’s face it, one could easily listen to OK Computer as if it was a fresh recording, whilst when listening to Nevermind, it is quite obvious – from the specific guitar riffs, from the base lines, from the way the music is composed – that it is a peace of music which WAS relevant to a certain popular music once, but that lost it’s relevance as the 90’s moved on.
In conclusion, due to complexity of the music and the lyrics on OK Computer (and the simplicity of the music and lyrics of Nevermind), due to the success of the “test of time” of OK Computer (and the failure of this test of Nevermind), and due to the intellectual challenge of OK Computer (and the lack of such a challenge on Nevermind), my vote goes to OK Computer.
Let’s face it – in ten years time, there will be many more people with OK Computer on their iPod’s, than there will be with Nevermind.
Johnny | 2/14/2007, 7:00 am EST
Between radiohead and nirvana as bands, one major point is that both radiohead and the beatles matured and progressed. Some may find that this maturation follows to their own listening. If one were to compile a one-cd mix of the beatles, giving proportionate justice to every era and every album, one would hear so many different styles and sounds and some listeners may even be incredulous about it being the same band throughout. The same is for radiohead. “I wanna hold your hand” and “I am the walrus” sound like they come from different dimensions; “thinking about you” and “packt like sardines” could have easily been written by two separate people from two different planets. To me, this is why radiohead will win everytime and also why the beatles will win everytime: They didnt stay the same; they grew and changes and people grow and change and this progression carries with it the power to change and influence others.
Garci | 2/14/2007, 7:01 am EST
There is no need to be a genius to realize what a great record Nevermind is, from the ass-kicking “Smells Like Teen Spirit” to the amazing “Polly”, you can notice how Kurt Cobain masters the art of making music. There are songs which you will keep on hearing, such as “In Bloom” and “Lithium”.
keum lee | 2/14/2007, 7:04 am EST
Nirvana is argubly the greatest band of the 1990’s and one of the most influential bands of our time. Nevermind is considered their best albums. I don’t know if it’s the best because I believe In Utero is better. But it’s for sure, the most popular. How great is this album? Pretty good in my book. In fact amazing. Here’s the scores for the songs.
1. Smells Like Teen Spirit – 10/10
2. In Bloom – 7/10
3. Come As You Are – 10/10
4. Breed – 9/10
5. Lithium – 9/10
6. Polly – 7/10
7. Territorial Pissings – 8/10
8. Drain You – 8/10
9. Lounge Act – 9/10
10. Stay Away – 8/10
11. On A Plain – 8/10
12. Something in the Way – 6/10
A great overall effort by Kurt and company.
Late Bloomer | 2/14/2007, 7:05 am EST
Nevermind is classic! This is coming from a woman who listens mostly to Simon and Garfunkel, the Cranberries, and Vienna Teng (watch out for this Asian American newcomer). I have nothing bad to say about Nirvana, except that I don’t like how they destroy their instruments after concerts. That made them seem like they were trying a bit too hard.
Nirvana’s lyrics does everything–it mocks but it’s sad at the same time. And all of the while, you have Kurt with that funny grin while singing his strange but honest lyrics.
Nirvana probably also stands out to me because of the influence they’ve had on my own upbringing. They really set the mood of my middle school days (since that’s when they came out). While everyone loved them to death, I really didn’t care and was just listening to Simon and Garfunkel. But as time went on, the Spice girls and the boy bands came out, I was just like, “wait a minute, what happened to creativity?” And then I started hearing what Kurt was saying through his music, as I went through my own teenage years of torment. It also didn’t hurt to grow up in the same state Nirvana grew up in, therefore taking personally the feeling and the mood of their songs.
It’s sad that Nirvana is no more, but maybe it’s best that David Grohl is now the frontman of his own group and Krist is in Olympia, WA as a political activist. Oh well.
Nirvana wins, in my book, as the anti-rock band of all time! Like the Beattles before them, they really changed music’s history.
MortensOrchid | 2/14/2007, 7:07 am EST
Where would we be without Nirvana? And don’t pretend you were too cool for them. All their material wasn’t the most original ever penned. Maybe their lyrics were inane. They wanted to be a footnote, and they ended up being the last great rock band to close out the 20th century. Suddenly we stopped having big hair and wearing flashy clothes, we suddenly saw the importance of being ernest. Dave Grohl is a fantastic drummer, and a phenomenal talent as he has proven with The Foo Fighters today. Krist Novacelic knew how to work the hell out of that base guitar and kept it together. And Kurt. Where to begin?
“Smells Like Teen Spirit” was the great anthem to the grunge years, with that one song we took a turn and never looked back. That grabbed a whole generation right at the right moment of angst and catapulted us away. You can hear them in every band today. And don’t pretend you were too cool, because you weren’t. You started wearing Doc Martin boots and flannel shirts and had a wallet chain dangling from your belt and had acne and greasy hair. This was the great change.
This album is full of gems, the lesser apreciated I feel are “Drain You” and “Territorial Pissings”. And I love the final track, that strange little ballad of “Something In THe Way” that rocks you to sleep. We feel Kurt’s anger, his stomach pains, and his highs and lows of mood. This was the album that changed us, made us take our anger and channel it into our future. The first time I heard this I was 17. I’m 30 now, and I still listen to this album. I remember those years so well, and still feel their anger, and still love this album. It’s raw, abrasive and aggressive.
Brock Landers | 2/14/2007, 7:11 am EST
The White Stripes and Glans Turd-inand can get all of the critical praise in the world. And Radiohead can supplant this album on the hipper-than-thou college-geek list-a-thon special perfumed issue of that oh-so-ten-years-ago magazine.
None of it matters. This album is the second-to-last (In Utero would be the last) “punk-alterna-rock” classic. Period. If you think this album is overrated, you probably like to listen to Tush or the Bone Temple Pilots. Yes. The lead-singer-songwriter-guitari st-frontman was kinda pathetic. And he went out in a most uncool way. But that doesn’t change my rating of the music. So if you don’t like this album, go listen to your grandpa’s Jethro Tull albums or some such nonsense.
swingreen | 2/14/2007, 7:15 am EST
There’s not much more to be said about “Nevermind” beyond how this one album started the sound that defined an entire decade of alternative rock music. Furthermore, it plays as well today as it did more than a decade ago when it first hit the music scene.
If you like “Nevermind”, I would also recommend that you purchase the box set “With the Lights Out”, which is a collection of demos and uncut rehearsals in addition to some more refined and polished studio recordings from Nirvana’s earlier years. I like listening to the two back-and-forth to gain a sense of context and a greater appreciation for the music of Nirvana.
awaw | 2/14/2007, 7:16 am EST
ok computer vs nevermind. !??!??!!?
ok computer wins.
Donnie | 2/14/2007, 7:16 am EST
Even after all these years i still enjoy listening to this album. Such an incredible album that defined an era in rock history. Kurt Cobain’s lyrics are poetic. He had this knack for writing lyrics that were so vague yet meant so much to so many people. He was a true poet. Even though i think their third album “In Utero” is much better and more personal to the band, this is still a great album that rock fans should pick up and is essential to a rock fans collection.
D.B. | 2/14/2007, 7:18 am EST
Radiohead!!! Ok computer is one of the best album ever (as Kid-A and Amnesiac)! Nirvana is an over-estimated band, just cause of the mystery around Kurt’s death…
Paula | 2/14/2007, 7:23 am EST
Nirvana’s Nevermind just excites me more. I think that’s what made them so great was the fact that their music could drive a lot of passion in people. Ok Computer doesn’t come close to doing that.
irregular chickens | 2/14/2007, 7:27 am EST
People need to stop stating which album they prefer, actually think about it…Influence means to music in general or to our lives. Both Bands have influenced a lot of music… Both are amazing bands….But I do believe that OKC’s influence is very prevalent even today….where as Nirvana’s Nevermind was important it was more their entire body of work that influenced people…also 10 years later theireinfluence was not as easily seen as OKC is today in the music at the time.
Mr. Gilmore | 2/14/2007, 7:28 am EST
I will not add any praise to the thousands of positive reviews this album has had, as I clearly cannot say anything that hasn’t been said. The only thing you need to know about this album is that it is one of thoses records that comes by every decade or so that totally changes the face of music (if not art). Nirvana will be remembered decades from now, probably to the same extent as The Doors. The only other band from the 90’s that will be remembered is Radiohead, although they didn’t revolutionize anything. They’re just our generation’s Pink Floyd without the Dark Side of the Moon (I’m still waiting).
Rob Smith | 2/14/2007, 7:39 am EST
Nirvana influential??
In the early days both Nirvana and Radiohead were influenced heavily by The Pixies, but Radiohead moved on. Cobain chose the dumber career move. (It worked though)
Unfortunately the bands that have been influenced by Radiohead chose “High And Dry” to copy endlessly. Which is a shame because there’s so much more in the goody box.
“Nevermind” the best of the 90’s? It’s not even the best by Nirvana.
Rob Smith | 2/14/2007, 7:42 am EST
PS Radio Moscow – Buy, buy, buy.
allaplgies | 2/14/2007, 7:44 am EST
Nevermind over Ok Computer. It continues to be influential in the world today and will be in the future. The friggin Library of Congress which preserves the most important recordings ever made has even included this album. And folks, pretty much every friggin band was influenced by one before it. The challenge is to take those influence to make it your own. I think both these bands have done that.
Paul Mitchell | 2/14/2007, 7:50 am EST
The Nevermind album is in the same league with albums like Black In Black , Led Zeppelin IV, and Forty Licks, as some of the Greatest rock Albums ever. The Songs on Nevermind are incredibly good, Starting with Smells Like Teen Spirit( rated in VH1’s 200 greatest songs as #1) to Something in The Way with many other great song in between like Come As You Are and Lithium. Also it changed the entire musical outlook almost over night. Plus anyone who says Kurts Lyrics dont make sence obviously arent listining close enough. I’m telling you people, this album just doenst get old, it will forever be a classic album.
William Pasour | 2/14/2007, 7:55 am EST
Alright, folks, here it is. THE album of the nineties, and the album that defined a generation. Since the end of the Vietnam War, popular music had been stagnating. There were great underground movements, such as punk and industrial, but music on the whole became more and more about posturing and posing. As became painfully obvious with the hair-metal of the eighties, rock had lost all of its urgency. It wasn’t about saying something that needed to be said, but rather about pushing product. The record companies were consolidating, using the power that afforded them to create rubrics for musical acts to fit into. And it worked, because the only reason people made music was for fame and fortune.
That’s why the mad scramble of the record companies in the beginning of the nineties is so funny. Nirvana hit with Nevermind, and all the sudden it wasn’t cool to be corporate or prepackaged. The scramble of the record companies allowed for such bands as Live, Alice In Chains, Weezer, and many more to have mega hits. All of a sudden, music listeners were being offered quality music that came from the heart with the kind of quality that big studio bucks and major label backing could afford. Before this album, we never would have heard Lightning Crashes, or Buddy Holly, or Rooster.
But Nirvana weren’t stars, and never wanted to be. They just put out music. Despite how well this album sold and how popular they were, they didn’t want the limelight. In the end, it killed Kurt Cobain. So don’t write reviews like you’ve got some sort of grudge against them for being so popular. If Kurt Cobain can’t play guitar as well as Robert Fripp, who cares? He wrote music to supplement the song – not the other way around. This isn’t prog-rock; it’s just rock and roll, and the reason it’s so successful is that every second of music, especially on this album and In Utero, is infused with the emotion that Kurt put in to the song. It’s not about being popular, and it’s certainly not about appeasing your jealousy or whatever it is that inspires your grudge. If you don’t like it, fine – but don’t try and make it into some weird personal thing.
William Pasour | 2/14/2007, 8:00 am EST
Nevermind Certainly is the finest rock disc of the last 20 years. Over Radiohead’s Ok Computer. It took the world in a different direction. Rocks hard, a bit of punk edge, but has catchy melodies and words you can sing along to. Get over the fact that it is still overplayed on the radio, many years later. It’s still great.
Yeah Baby | 2/14/2007, 8:04 am EST
1991. I was 12 years old and had no interest in music what so ever. Then I heard Smells Like Teen Spirit and it changed everything. Its a time I will never forget. Nothing sounded better at the time. These loud angry songs that just allowed you space to just loose it. All the songs are great and all have something to give. Time has not diminished the power of this album. Teen Spirit, In Bloom, Come As You Are, and Lithium only scratch the surface of what you will hear. Lounge Act, Drain You, Stay Away, and Breed are amazing powerful songs. And Something In The Way, a nice, quiet and beautiful song. An interesting way to end an album that brought anger and passion back into rock. Rarely does an album come out that changes everything so completely. This is one to those rare albums that did it. Just like people still talk about Highway 61 Revisited by Bob Dylan or Sgt. Pepper by the Beatles fourty years from now people will still be talking about Nevermind.
Donkeys killing Monkeys | 2/14/2007, 8:08 am EST
Radiohead are the best band in the history of music.
Anita | 2/14/2007, 8:09 am EST
I am 52, female and a music buff since my first transistor radio back in the Stone Age. Of all the bands, over all the years, Nirvana is the one that speaks to me most. Yeah, Nevermind sparked a sorely needed musical ‘revolution’ but if it had not, this album would STILL have been the best record of the 90’s. Kurt Cobain’s raw vocals and painfully astute lyrical observations express that dark yearning we all have buried whether we like to admit it or not. Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic add perfect steaming intensity; a foundation that burns like the fire beneath a cannibal cauldren. Melody is the center of Cobain’s songs, no matter if he drones, screams or rages, and Novaselic’s baseline is the sweet underpinning that gives this music weight and symmetry. And as Kurt said about Grohl when he joined the band “He can’t dance as good as your MTV favorites, but he beats the drums like he’s beating the s–t out of their heads.” Nevermind ain’t surface stuff; ya really gotta LISTEN. I suggest car stereo, full blast, long drive down a deserted highway…
Chris | 2/14/2007, 8:10 am EST
I think both albums are excellent. I think that “Smells like teen spirit” can raise the deads… But make no mistake here : Kurt can scream all he wants( in a good way) , but nothing he does can compare to the voice of Thom Yorke on “Climbing up the walls”. As you can see the winner-band will be judged from some tiny details. And to me these details go to OKC. One last thing: In my opinion music like Nirvana did can be produced again ( already My Chemical Romance started doing that) , but the music Radiohead do cant be produced by any other band in the world at this time.
Bruce | 2/14/2007, 8:11 am EST
This article is about influence….and I personally think Nirvana has had more influence than Radiohead. But to say Radiohead is the best band ever seems a bit unrealistic to me.
Can't be reproduced | 2/14/2007, 8:15 am EST
Can’t be reproduced or simply poeple do not want to? Remember, if someone is very much influenced by a band they might try to emulate them and if they are not influenced they may simply ignore them.
Emreka | 2/14/2007, 8:25 am EST
I don’t understand why people try so hard to underrate Nevermind, but here we have one of the most influential albums of all times.as it had happened to velvet underground in the early seventies,nirvana is appreciated by musicians like Tori Amos,Macy Gray,Orhan Gencebay and bands like the strokes,brmc,prodigy and so on.as a music fan this album still makes me think of starting my own band,expressing my anger to the new world order.anyway real music fans will always enjoy this music and Nevermind will be put to its well deserved place someday.because it’s been more than 10 years since it was released and it sounds STILL as if it was released today.
Muff Diver | 2/14/2007, 8:29 am EST
To be honest this is the way I feel about the situation. I think Nirvana are a good band and its a good album, but Radiohead released The Bends also which is a complete masterpiece along with Ok Computer. Let Down and The Tourist are unstoppable songs. My objective, is to say about bands being influenced, which does not mean they are ripping off people at all. Every band in the HISTORY of music was influenced by some kind of music.
My ear only functions with slower music.
radiohead 4ever
David Gould | 2/14/2007, 8:34 am EST
I think that “Ok Computer” is a fantastic audio achievment. It is totally original, and sounds like nothing else. But it is not the greatest album ever made and it isn’t the best album of the 90’s. I believe that “The Bends” is equally as good, but enough about Radiohead, what about “Definately Maybe” and “(What’s the story) Morning Glory” by Oasis, or “The Holy Bible” and “Everything Must Go” by The Manic Street Preachers, or “Nevermind” by Nirvana, or “Agaetis Byrjun” by Sigur Ros, or “Urban Hymns” by The Verve, or “Fat of the land” by Prodigy, or “Grace” by Jeff Buckley, or even “Metallica” by Metallica…there are many contenders for the top spot, and think “Ok computer” is simply one of the best, not the best.
Alan Hicks | 2/14/2007, 8:35 am EST
OK computer must be the most overrated, overhyped record of the decade. It is basically two half decent songs and a load of filler. It steals heavily from Pink Floyd with none of the humour. An illustration of this is Fitter Happier which lifts the Steve Hawkin voice box idea from The Division Bell’s Keep Talking.
Thom York’s voice is a toneless grind that makes Liam Gallagher sound really interseting. The booklet is a mess. Keane, Coldplay, Robbie Williams, The Zutons, Sheryl Crow, Shelby Lynne, Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, to name a few, have put out better records. The list is almost endless. In fact even Be Here Now is a better album. OK Computer the best album of the last 10 years, your having a laugh.
amc | 2/14/2007, 8:37 am EST
I will admit that Nevermind pretty much defined the 90’s. And it is an AWESOME album. When I first heard OK Computer, I felt so lucky to be alive at that moment to be able to hear such amazing songs. I have never had that feeling about any other band.
Paul Carrol | 2/14/2007, 8:37 am EST
Couldn’t agree less about OK Computer, I’m afraid. Vastly over-rated tripe, especially given the passage of time. Never mind “best album of the 90s”, it’s not even the best album of 1997 – it’s inferior to Spiritualized’s “Ladies and Gentlemen…” and the Scream’s “Vanishing Point”, which itself is scarcely that band’s best work (see Screamadelica and XTRMNTR).
As for the whole “best album of the decade” argument, Thom and his merry band of musos pale into insignificance compared to, off the top of my head, Oasis’ “Definitely Maybe”, the Whigs’ “Gentlemen” and “Black Love”, the Scream (see above), Shack’s “Waterpistol”, the (only) La’s album and my particular pick for the decade’s best record, MBV’s “Loveless”.
And I despise Thom’s pitiful 6th Form poetry class version of a political conscience as well
Gouldius | 2/14/2007, 8:40 am EST
There’s not much to say about Nevermind that hasn’t already been force fed to the general public for the last 17 years, but here’s my commentary, so to speak. I’ve seen it in many “Best Albums” lists, be it by a famous publication like Rolling Stone, or some seemingly insignificant user of the internet’s home page. The thing is, this album is inescapable in terms of it’s public exposure.
I was a little late in my discovery of this album, being only 6 when it was released. And I admittedly thought nothing of it until my teens. Which is why I write this review; people only just discovering this album have a hard time, as they have been exposed to an innumerable amount of bands which copy Nirvana’s style. It’s hard to forget everthing you’ve heard and think of this as the be all and end all of modern records. But for me, it’s the quality of everything here that makes it so special. Sure, there have been countless amounts of bands trying to copy the sound of this album, but none of them have come close to re-capturing it’s finnesse in terms of an overall package.
It’s one of those rare albums that you can listen to all the way through and still have a hunger for more. It still sounds good after 13 years (as my father constantly reminds me), and it is still obvious why it is held so highly in everyone’s regard.
I love this album, and if I met someone who didn’t, I’d strongly question thier taste in music.
Gabriel Casey | 2/14/2007, 8:41 am EST
Nevermind is a great album, but OK Computer destroys it in terms of quality. One thing that no one has mentioned here is lyrics. Both albums can make claim to visceral, exciting and innovative music, but Cobain’s lyrics are too often throwaway punk sloganeering which, despite the efforts of a generation of Cobain disciples, cannot be forced to mean anything very profound. OK Computer on the other hand is among the greatest albums ever lyric-wise. Seriously – stunningly beautiful music aside (and diverse, which Nevermind certainly can’t claim to be) this album’s lyrical brilliance sets it aside not just in the 90s but in the entire history of popular music. Sit down and read that album sleeve. please.
Anthony Newton | 2/14/2007, 8:43 am EST
C’mon, get real everyone.
The greatest album of the 90s is “Nevermind” by Nirvana.
Its influence on music, the music industry, bands, attitude, you name it, is as strong today as it was 15 years ago.
In fact, it’s one of the pivotal albums of all time, and anyone who doesn’t understand that just doesn’t understand rock, and the history of rock.
Swanni | 2/14/2007, 8:44 am EST
In a recent argument with someone over the better band between The Clash and Radiohead, I was forced to concede that the cooler band were certainly The Clash. Which got me thinking and there aren’t many bands on the planet that aren’t cooler than Radiohead. And Nirvana are no exception, I think it’s fair to say that both bands are about as ugly as each other, but Nirvana are definitely the cooler.
And why? Well, they took lots of drugs, told a lot of people to f*** off and smashed up their kit at the end of their gigs. There were always stories right upto (and including) the end about extreme behaviour and controversy. And though this probably wasn’t contrived or premeditated, it did give a lot of people something to talk about, got them on the front cover of magazines and made them cool. I recently read a review on Nevermind that said more about the Cobain’s extra curricular activities at the time than the music on the album itself.
My point is simple, in twenty years time, if someone found the two albums and had never heard of either of the bands before, I think it would be more likely that they would like one album more than the other, personality aside.
My conclusion is that Nirvana were cooler, but Radiohead are much, much better (and while I’m here, so were The Clash (and Led Zeppelin)).
C. James | 2/14/2007, 8:49 am EST
If I had to choose one it would be Nevermind over Ok Computer. This album offers more than just energy and catchy tunes. This album offers deep thought and percision of emmotion from start to finish. Anyone who passes this album off as “played out” or “sloppy” is a sad exscuse for a music fan. I, for one, will continue to play the hell out of this CD for the rest of my life, just as I have since it’s release in ‘91.
A music fan | 2/14/2007, 8:53 am EST
Nevermind–if ever there was a cd that everyone, regardless of musical taste, could enjoy, this has to be it. What is not on offer here?? Theres pop, grunge, punk rock and even some acostic ballads thrown in for good measure. Its also catchy as hell, has intelligent lyrics (which you dont need to understand to enjoy the music, although ‘in bloom’ will make a fool out of you) and is altogether just a very strong, consistent set of songs. What more can you ask for??
If you dont love this album then you dont know wat good music is. Period
A music fan | 2/14/2007, 8:55 am EST
More thoughts–For all the people that hate Nirvana because they think they are overrated, I want you to sit down and listen to this album the whole way through every second of every song. Then you will notice that they are not overrated. But back onto this CD… Thsi is quite possibly in the top 15 albums ever reocrded. Every song is excellent and artsy. Kurt’s punishment of his guitar…Krist’s booming bass…Dave’s pounding on his drums and Kurt’s poetic lyrics, all this adds up to one of the great albums in Rock N’ Roll History. Don’t hate this album because of its phenominal success.
Vera | 2/14/2007, 9:01 am EST
Nevermind is truely on of the best albums i have heard to recent date it combines raw emotion, captivating lyrics, and great guitar play. Even though Kurts life came to an end so soon he will forever live though his music.
S | 2/14/2007, 9:03 am EST
My vote to Nevermind. This is essiantly a perfect rock album. nirvana is one of the most influential bands in history. and kurt cobain was a musical genius, its tragic that he had to do what he did. this album is great, everysong a classic. if u dont have it by now, hurry up and get it!!
Rollie Anderson | 2/14/2007, 9:08 am EST
Probably go with Nevermind here. For those musically adventurous types out there who have heard the hoopla about Radiohead and want to see if the rest of their stuff is kinda like the radio-friendly and infectious “Creep” then beware. It’s not. I can see where they would appeal to certain folks, I’m just not one of them and that’s okay. Different strokes, ya know. I’m one who likes a good strong drummer and powerful vocals on the songs I choose to listen to and I didn’t find that here. I will say one thing for them. They are definitely unique and a change of pace. Just be aware of what you are getting into with OK Computer.
Jack | 2/14/2007, 9:09 am EST
Beatles VS Rolling Stones! = Beatles (Inonvation and divercity in their sound and music)
Blur Vs Oasis = Blur (like Beatles)
Radiohead Vs Nirvana = Radiohead (like Beatles)
Beatles, Blur and Radiohead are more interested and important band for the genius inovation sound and the évolution during their career.
Rolling Stone, Oasis and Nirvana made the same album during all their lives.
Radiohead never made twice the same album. Can one say as many Nirvana of it?
I like this sentence which I read in a comment of this page : “OK COMPUTER come from RADIOHEAD, NERVERMIND come from SONIC YOUTH”
Then: OK COMPUTER is THE best album of all time, despite a lot of great albums like Nevermind
Kenny | 2/14/2007, 9:14 am EST
“Greatest Album of the 90s” huh? when there are no good songs or memorable melodies, it’s definitly a problem. The problem I have with most Radiohead’s work is it’s just not catchy. I beleive that music IS music, that means there must be more to just lyrics being sung by the singer. There has to be a chorus, a verse, a memorable melody. Music is ENTERTAINMENT, listning to this album make me want to vomit, it’s just not music. Because music is supposed to be catchy with a melody and a chorus. Tell Radiohead to include a chorus in their songs and a memorable melody then maybe I’ll give their work a second thought.
T. Hall | 2/14/2007, 9:16 am EST
I bought OK Computer on the back of their great single Paranoid Android but never really dug the rest of it. Besides maybe No Suprises, the rest of this is dull, unmemorable and has the most irritating vocals this side of Smashing Pumpkins. Not my cup of tea at all and to these ears, not quality art rock. I read a ‘best album ever’ poll recently that had this on top, which completely baffles me. Someone tell me what’s so good about this album, please!
Going with Nevermind here
Bryce | 2/14/2007, 9:17 am EST
“Here we are now, entertain us” Music should entertain and be an enjoyable experience. Nevermind does this for so much more than Ok Computer.
gabriel | 2/14/2007, 9:20 am EST
nevermind is a very good cd but…very easy to play too…only power chord and the bass follow exactly the guitar. all song are in 4/4…
ok computer is awesome with very weird timing (paranoid android in 7/8), all song are made of complexe chord, weird noise and solo. the style is different and new (now, cold play, muse, blunt, etc etc copy radiohead
mr stephen | 2/14/2007, 9:21 am EST
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Graeme | 2/14/2007, 9:23 am EST
OK Computer – Nevermind is a great work, but in terms of the creativity and the sheer beauty of the music (not to mention its uncanny ability to get under your skin), OK Computer is superior. As for influence, I’m sorry, but Nirvana did not create or revolutionize rock on their own. The movement was already there and there were many brilliant bands on their way up who were influenced by bands other than this one. Nirvana became chosen as the posterboys of the new sound, but they were not the sole originators of it. Interestingly enough, both albums received far greater press and over-the-top praise than either group was prepared for. The difference was how each band dealt with it. Nirvana’s fate was eventual self-destruction, while Radiohead’s was an advance further into what rock music could be. Even if Nevermind could be argued as marking the genesis of 90’s Rock, OK Computer was its peak.
hey hey hey | 2/14/2007, 9:27 am EST
Ok Computer: horrible trash…whiny, whiny, bohooo, bohooo
Just shut up and sing. Radiohead are the worst band ever..this album is the ultimate
Lethargic | 2/14/2007, 9:29 am EST
Ok Computer could really have been outstanding, but is lacking an edge to put it over the top. Thus, I can’t recommend this album without reservation. Nevermind had the edge and DID revolutionize rock
Rhys Jenkins | 2/14/2007, 9:32 am EST
Both are obviously great albums, otherwise this debate would not exist. To me, OK Computer has always connected more, and means infinately more. But of course these albums were made from different life experiences upon different themes, and there is no absolute answer. As I say, to me OK Computer isn’t even the best Radiohead album and I still prefer it to Nevermind, but there are numbers of factors that contribute to that, and I don’t think there is a conclusive answer to this question.
Michael Scott | 2/14/2007, 9:33 am EST
Radiohead, and this album in particular, are an anomoly. Some people think they are the best band in the world, and seem unable to understand others not caring for them. This makes others angry.
My opinion of this album is that it is over-rated, it is not genious. I have owned the CD for about 5 years now, and every time I put it on I get the same feeling, it just doesnt hit the mark for me. They know how to play their instruments, and there’s some interesting ideas, but it lacks something. I would go as far as to agree with those who call it pretentious.
Throughout, the lyrics seem like someone had taken a left-wing political treatise and a 50’s science fiction story, cut them both into pieces and tossed them up in the air – it’s hard to tell whether they’re trying to communicate and failing, or simply trying to be clever.
Some of the tracks are just plain dull – “Exit Music” and “The Tourist” for example. I also have to take issue with the percussion on this album. The cymbols and drums do not sound quite right, it’s very odd, and hard to explain, but I think they have tried to create a different sound and have failed because it’s unmusical to my ears.
To sum up, I fail to see what people get out of this album, I really do. I have tried to find some hidden message in the whole thing, there isnt one, and as music it fails to excite me except on the odd track.
The Radiohead cult is the biggest pyramid scheme in the history of modern music. You have been warned.
Joshua Smith | 2/14/2007, 9:36 am EST
I have tried many times to get behind Ok Computer. I have even tried to buy the hype. It just isn’t that great. I dont even think it is good. I like the song Karma Police but that is it. One reveiwer is pointing out how we who give it a low rating must be musically immature. I disagree. I dont care for the album. Get over it.
J. Davis | 2/14/2007, 9:40 am EST
Nevermind, Nevermind, Nevermind!!!I’ve just read several reviews,and well, just don’t understand. Don’t mix up Cobain with Einstien for genius sake. Kurt was a huge Beatle and most notably a John Lennon fan, and a Zeppelin fan(he covered the “Immigrant Song” in early set’s). So why are people uncapable of bridging the gaps. Nevermind came out in the early ninety’s and people still passionately hate it or love it, which really says something about it’s impact. Nirvana was just an honest group of musicians that were true to themselves and thier music. Should Kurt have never picked up a guitar because he’s not going to become a virtuoso, oh no. Maybe all musicians and songwriters should just give up, cause we already have metullica (just shoot me now!). As for guitar solos some songs believe it or not don’t need a two minute guitar break. Nirvana’s showcase was their music and the songs. It was a different time back then, Mike”the Yikes”Jackson finally got booted off the top of the chart’s with this album, and some real instrumental music finally got more exposure. More alternative radio stations started poping up, the face of MTV finally changed, and it was all a welcomed one. Say what you want, this album is part of the original music of the ninety’s, heck it was a musical revolution!
Lithium | 2/14/2007, 9:57 am EST
It almost doesn’t make sense to compare these two albums. They come from different times and backgrounds. Radiohead is still an active band so it is really hard to see how this album will ultimately affect their career. Therefore, my decision is based on how the music reaches the people. I live in New England. The three biggest rock stations out of Boston play Nirvana on a regular basis…not so much Radiohead. This on top of the huge continuing sales of Nevermind to new generations that blows Ok Computer out of the water. Music needs to be eventually heard by the people if it is to be influential and I think NIrvana has succeeded here. Plus the songs kick ass:)
j | 2/14/2007, 10:08 am EST
radiohead.
Stephen Fisher | 2/14/2007, 10:09 am EST
COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.
MUSIC IS NOT A COMPETITION.
I’m sure corporate america just loves to put one band against another to make one look like they have the same relevance/impact as the other.
They should do more interesting battles like Jesus vs Gandhi. They won’t, however, because this doesn’t sell any more Radiohead albums.
I have nothing against Radiohead, don’t like their music though. I’ve heard Thom Yorke speak a bunch of times and he seems like a good egg. Can’t imagine him thinking “Oh yeah! Us vs Nirvana! OMG!”.
Record company bullshit / corporate magazines still suck!
Stacy W. Partridge | 2/14/2007, 10:10 am EST
Not of the same league, relative time frame or of course direction of achievement. Modern Punk Rock vs. Modern Art Rock, split by some 5 years.
Nirvana has had negative things to say in the past of “Nevermind” while Radiohead have always said they loved how “OK Computer” turned out.
Nevermind was never meant to change the world, and, yes, Nevermind is probably a little shinier than it should be, positively glistening with echo and fuzz-box distortion. This doesn’t discount the record, since it’s not only much harder than any mainstream rock of 1991, its character isn’t on the surface, it’s in the exhilaratingly raw music and haunting songs. Kurt Cobain’s personal problems and subsequent suicide naturally deepens the dark undercurrents, but no matter how much anguish there is on Nevermind, it’s bracing because he exorcises those demons through his evocative wordplay and mangled screams — and because the band has a tremendous, unbridled power that transcends the pain, turning into pure catharsis. And, that’s as key to the record’s success as Cobain’s songwriting, since Krist Novoselic and Dave Grohl help turn this into music that is gripping, powerful, and even fun.In retrospect, Nevermind may seem a little too unassuming for its mythic status — it’s simply a great modern punk record — but even though it may no longer seem life-changing, it is certainly life-affirming, which may just be better.
Radiohead have stripped away many of the obvious elements of guitar rock, creating music that is subtle and textured yet still has the feeling of rock & roll. Even at its most adventurous — such as the complex, multi-segmented “Paranoid Android” — the band is tight, melodic, and muscular, and Thom Yorke’s voice effortlessly shifts from a sweet falsetto to vicious snarls. It’s a thoroughly astonishing demonstration of musical virtuosity and becomes even more impressive with repeated listens, which reveal subtleties like electronica rhythms, eerie keyboards, odd time signatures, and complex syncopations. Yet all of this would simply be showmanship if the songs weren’t strong in themselves, and OK Computer is filled with moody masterpieces, from the shimmering “Subterranean Homesick Alien” and the sighing “Karma Police” to the gothic crawl of “Exit Music (For a Film).” OK Computer is the album that establishes Radiohead as one of the most inventive and rewarding guitar rock bands of the ’90s.
If I had only one choice to take either one to a deserted island it would be “Radiohead’s OK Computer”!!!
gary | 2/14/2007, 10:14 am EST
they are very contrasting albums, nevermind is simple and can be loved on a few listens and forgotten in a few more.
okc on the other hand need more attention and is vastly more complicated,sophisticated and once you are hooked less forgetable.
however whereas nevermind is nirvanas best album, okc is definately not radioheads best.
Jim Carey, Tom Cruise | 2/14/2007, 10:14 am EST
Airbag
Paranoid Android
Homesick Alien
Exit Music
Let Down
Karma Police
Fitter Happier
Electioneering
Climb ing Up The Walls
No Suprises
Lucky
The Tourist
10/10
pete james | 2/14/2007, 10:15 am EST
OKC by a mile, but KIDA and amnesiac is better than both
Brendan Thayer | 2/14/2007, 10:20 am EST
Nevermind wins by a mile. Cobain didn’t know the word “grunge” while recording this. He was trying to make a good punk album mixed with his way of keeping songs short and sweet with some rhythm and hooks, choruses and verses. He made the album he wanted. The problem was when the media got a hold of it they overexposed the [...] out of it. Whatever happened as a result of this album doesn’t change the music thats on it. The music on the album deserves 5 stars.
CQ DX | 2/14/2007, 10:20 am EST
I’ve heard ‘OK Computer’ enough to realize how utterly overrated, derivative, and hyped-up it is! This CD is anything but ‘groundbreaking’ or classic. All the sound schemes and progressions are nothing that hasn’t been done better or with more passion and talent by progressive bands like Pink Floyd or The Church, who by the way, paint much more musical and moving soundscapes than the very mediocre Yorke and company! Besides, his drony, whiny voice gives me a migraine, much like the overrated bloke in ‘Oasis’!
The Tourist | 2/14/2007, 10:21 am EST
It seems to me that everyone on the Nirvana bandwagon has never REALLY listened to Radiohead.
Look… I have both albums. I love both albums. And, I acknowledge that both were and continue to be influential.
However, there are many “Nirvanas” out there. There will NEVER be another radiohead.
As far as the particular albums, OKC is definitely the superior work of art and expression. Cobain expresses his (and his generation’s) angst in a strong way. Unfortunately, that way is by being loud and screaming over and over again.
Thom Yorke and Radiohead are amazingly unique from song to song, and even within songs. I’ve never heard an album that can make your blood boil and then make you want to crawl into a corner and hide away from the world in a split second (”Paranoid Android”).
Nice try Kurt… but OK Computer all the way!
Jeffrey Zienty | 2/14/2007, 10:22 am EST
Not a big brit music fan but was compelled to listen because of the buzz. Explain to me why this is so great. If there’s a theme here i don’t get it. Some decent guitar playing but that doesn’t really make it a “Classic”. I guess standards of excellence have to be lowered due to the lack of any real intelligence or passion in modern rock music. Buy a Shellac album instead
steven | 2/14/2007, 10:23 am EST
although i used to be a big nirvana fan i have to say that ok compouter is the better album, although kid a is radioheads best album by miles
DRA | 2/14/2007, 10:24 am EST
OK Computer is the greatest and most influential album of the last 20 years
Mike Jefferson | 2/14/2007, 10:27 am EST
Perhaps if OK Computer had come out well before “in the court of the crimson king” or “dark side of the moon” this would be some kind of innovative work. Instead, it is just a very derivitive mope-fest with little charm. There are a couple standout tracks, but those are quickly bogged down by Floyd-lite numbers with no punch.
Radiohead does a nice job of mixing their influences, but goes a little overboard in directly lifting passages from Pink Floyd’s Live Ummagumma disc.
The record now sounds tinny and dated. It was nice to see Radiohead learn from this and produce the organic Kid A, which is easily their best work and well worth owning. This one is utterly forgettable.
Beatles Fan | 2/14/2007, 10:29 am EST
A BIG NOD TO NEVERMIND! Nothing could have prepared the world for this incredible release. Grunge is an amazing fusion of metal, punk and rock alternative that only Nirvana and Pearl Jam were ever able to really master. Not since The Doors released their groundbreaking debut 25 years earlier had rock music taken such a dark step forward and broken so much new ground. Metallica’s, “Kill’em All”, may have rewrote the rules for hard rock but Nirvana published those rule and displayed them to the public.
Opening up with the unforgettable grunge anthem, “Smells Like Teen Spirit”, the album is a driving locomotive of hard rock and post-punk. The video to that song was revolutionary and many like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan have tried to mimic it but failed completely. Tracks like, “In Bloom”, “Come As You Are”, and “Lithium”, have become post-punk standards but lesser tracks like the driving force, “Breed”, and the absurd noise maker, “Territorial Pissings” are no less impressive. “Polly”, and, “Something In The Way” mark the quiet and mellow moments of the album, the latter being one of Kurt Cobain’s most personal songs. Sadly this is one of Cobain’s only major statements as he only released a few more albums up untill his death in the mid 90’s.
The Doors and The Velvet Underground may have given birth to punk and hard rock, and The Clash and Sex Pistols may have made it popular but Nirvana revived it and gave it new life before others like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan made it suffer a second death. This along with Pearl Jam’s, “Ten”, and Green Day’s, “Dookie”, marked the pinnacle of 90’s hard rock. A must have for anybody interested in post-80’s rock & roll.
Me | 2/14/2007, 10:30 am EST
Ok Computer is overrated. Nevermind is the greatest album of the last 20 years.
POLLYJEAN | 2/14/2007, 10:32 am EST
Im a huge Radiohead fan,so my vote goes that way.
However, let me speak my mind:
- Lyrically, I think both albums, both songwriters (Yorke and Cobain) are pretty bad. Although there are exceptions.
- They are both emotional singers, which is great. But Cobain was closer to a teen rage that now seems just pathetic.
- In terms of musical performance, there is no comparisson: Radiohead are/were much finer musicians.
- The details. It has been said here, stupidly in the way it has been said, that music is for entretainment. Climbing Up The Walls strange string arrangements, Let Downs guitar dialogues, et al – they all constitute the little details that make the album entretaining in a true form. Nirvana did not have that sort of musical imagination.
- Finally, Nevermind has not passed the test of time so well. It sounds so old now.
Patrick | 2/14/2007, 10:36 am EST
Nirvana. Plain and simple. Is Radiohead trying to be ironic here?? Fans who listen to Ok Computer must appriciate the irony of this albums mechanical, over produced feel-the very thing this album attempts to condem. The truth is, this is not creative music, and will never be considered as such by those familiar with good music. Musically, this album shares nothing in common with Pink Floyd, and to this day, I am still baffled as to how people can see any similarity between the two groups. Sure, both groups deal with themes of dehumanization, isolation, and mental instability, but the difference lies in the actual music. Wereas Floyd did actually break the rules of rock music-through their surrealistic sounds, and the fact that often their songs can’t be listened to individually but rather in the context of the album they are in-Radiohead conforms to the pop groove all the way through on this album. Personally I think this band has more in common with NSYNC than Floyd. Also, this album offers nothing new in the way of concept. Dehumanization due to technology has been happening for a very long time-most people are aware of it-they are just too weak and scared to do anything about it. It is a very real problem confronting our society. But all Radiohead is doing is preaching to the choir-reiterating an alwready known fact. They complain about dehumanization, but offer no vision for the future. All in all, I think this commercial peice of [stuff] will only serve the social machine by making people wistfull about their situation without taking action…
Ctay | 2/14/2007, 10:39 am EST
Well, here it is, the most overated album of the 90s, along with that godawful Mellon Collie thing by the Smashing Pumpkins. I have no doubt the same people who [dote] over this boring overproduced [stuff] also think Billy Corgan is a musical genius. So about OK computer, i’ll say that it’s not nearly as bad as Kid a. This album though is all about the production. The music wouldn’t sound anywhere near as good if it wasn’t for all the sonic tweaking and other studio tricks. Underneath it all the music is cold, boring and lacks identity. It sounds like they’re trying to be the Pink Floyd of the 90s. Granted, some of the songs deserve merit, mainly tracks 4, 5 and 6. But the first 3 songs are so boring, i really struggled to get through them to find something worth listening to. I don’t know what the concept of Ok Computer is suppose to be, but if it was for Thom Yorke to sing and write songs like a computer then he sure did succeed. Nevermind just has more raw emotion.
Jaime | 2/14/2007, 10:42 am EST
If we are just comparing albums and not bands, then I must go for Nevermind. I’m sorry, but Ok Computer is not deserving of the praise its been generated. I found the album poor, and sadly, disappointing. There are a few good songs on this album, but a better investment would be “The Bends”, which is more lyrically and melodically sound.
Trevie | 2/14/2007, 10:53 am EST
I’ve been reading these posts and some people seem to push for Nevermind and trash Ok Computer, while others push for Ok Computer and trash Nevermind. Then there are those that like both albums but might have a slight preference either way. The way I see it Nevermind changed the musical landscape in a way that Ok Computer, as much as it’s fans may want, has not. On the other hand, Ok Computer was more creative in its art and direction than Nevermind. This is apples and oranges. Both albums will be regarded highly for years to come.
Drew | 2/14/2007, 11:01 am EST
OK computer is by far the superior album when compared to nevermind. Nevermind was a cultural movement, not a great album.
Jake Hogan | 2/14/2007, 11:05 am EST
I agree that the decision shouldn’t be predominantly about the actual influence of the album, but rather the quality of the work on the album. In this sense, OK Computer is a much more finely-tuned venture.
Allaplgies | 2/14/2007, 11:06 am EST
Ok, when looking at a great and influential album I look at four criteria:
1. Sales: Clearly Nevermind wins here. Over 10 million in the United States and 20 million worldwide. Ok Computer only 2 million in the United States.
2. Influence: Once again I go with Nevermind. Both influenced music….I will agree with that. But Nevermind changed the whole musical scene in the 1990’s. Growing up during this time it was amazing. Nevermind was an album only expected to sell maybe 100,000 copies and yet it knocked Michael Jackson off the charts, with little promotion. It allowed many new bands, good and bad, to have a chance to be heard in the music world and marked a transition from 80’s rock to alternative. Today Nevermind still influences artists and singers alike.
3. Long term impact: Hard to say because Radiohead is still a band. Both bands have their music equally cited by performers and played on the radio, although I think Nevermind has a slight edge here I will say tie.
4. Creativity: I’ll give this one to Ok Computer. Although it’s a shame Kurt commited suicide. He was moving in a great folk/rock direction. Just listen to Unplugged and Do Re Mi from the Box Set.
With this criteria I have to say Nevermind has the edge in terms of overall influence. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not that blind to say there the ebst ever, but certainly one of the best. I would say the same for Radiohead too.
Bruce | 2/14/2007, 11:10 am EST
I’ll take a record that has guts and starts a “cultural revolution” anyday over a “finely tuned” studio produced album. The music could be the most advanced thing ever written….I’ll still take music that influences millions even if it is as simple as Nevermind.
Paully | 2/14/2007, 11:16 am EST
I must comment on those from both sides who say that one album beats the other “by a mile” or that there is “no comparison” and similar quotes like this. Clearly this just shows your personal prejudice and not rational critique of music. I personally think Nevermind is better, but I also recognize the greatness of Ok Computer. Neither of these albums is blowing the other out of the water.
hk | 2/14/2007, 11:24 am EST
no comparison.
ok computer.
Nick Miller | 2/14/2007, 11:24 am EST
Two defenses of Radiohead 1. They aren’t just a great studio band who relies on tricks, their live show is arguably the best in the world. 2. I find it hilarious that someone said OK Computer’s first 3 tracks are boring and conform to pop grooves. Paranoid Android…six and a half minutes…really crazy stuff…but pop?
Rob | 2/14/2007, 11:30 am EST
No, never look at the sales of an album to see how good it is! Think about it, Coldplay is currently selling more records than Radiohead because more people like Coldplay. Unfortunately, this overshadows the fact that more people LOVE Radiohead. If CDs cost $100 instead of $10, then Radiohead would sell much more than anyone else.
No surprises that I prefer Ok Computer then (excuse the pun). But this track is a good example, a soothing ironic lullaby for the everyday working man/woman who has absolutely no control over the path of their life.
Yes Nevermind is more catchy, more radio-friendly, more commercial, but is that really what you want after 50 years of rock music? OK Computer will take a while to get into, but once you do, you’ll understand.
Rob | 2/14/2007, 11:39 am EST
Oh yeah and it has to be said that during the late 70’s and 80’s there was already a punk rock scene in England, perhaps not in the U.S. People who think Nevermind revolutionised music will do well to listen to Nevermind the Bollocks by the Sex Pistols, released over 15 years earlier, a better album with a curiously similar sound and title.
Edric | 2/14/2007, 11:47 am EST
Nevermind did have the biggest cultural impact. However the music was boring and unoriginal. OK Computer is the far better album. In fact it is a masterwork. Nevermind just changed the trends of pop music but it was not very influental on pop music itself. OK Computer still contunues to influence pop music to this day. And Radiohead still contuniue to innovate. Which is why Radiohead is currently considered the greatest band in the world.
Rob | 2/14/2007, 11:48 am EST
I think this fight should be renamed
“Nevermind Versus Kid A”
In my opinion for creativity, great album and genre changing Kid A is Numero Uno. Kid A easily beats its bigger brother OK Computer in a sibling rivalry.
Eric | 2/14/2007, 11:51 am EST
A couple of things to say about this argument…
1) both albums have been extremely “influencial” despite what people’s opinions are. Nirvana might have the slight edge here, but much of Radiohead’s influence has yet to be seen. I would venture to say that OK Computer was even more “ahead of it’s time” than Nevermind.
2) I can still listen to OK Computer these days. I DO still listen to OK Computer on a regular basis. I can’t tell you the last time I listened to Nevermind. For me, and most other music lovers I know, OK Computer is more timeless than Nevermind. Nevermind marked a change in the musical world at a specific time. OK Computer is just as relevant today as it was last decade. Nevermind is not. And you know it.
ñandu | 2/14/2007, 11:59 am EST
OK Computer!!!!
is the best!!!!
Edric | 2/14/2007, 12:02 pm EST
I totally agree with Eric’s #2 point.
However to say Radiohead’s influence has yet to be seen is a serious mistatement. It would be hard to find an indie band out there that is not in some way influenced by Radiohead.
Another good example is last summer at Bonnaroo, where Radiohead was regarded as “Godlike”
jimmy | 2/14/2007, 12:09 pm EST
It’s interesting to hear some of the comments about OK Computer and it’s hype. The truth is that it was barely advertised on it’s release but built up a following due to word of mouth and critical aclaim. Radiohead are probably the most private super band there ever was, which doesn’t give the media much banter. Nirvana have plenty of stories to be talked about so it’s natural that the media will always favor them.
Evidently from recent album polls, it is true to say that Nevermind is the media’s choice and OK Computer is the people’s choice.
Jerome Turner | 2/14/2007, 12:17 pm EST
Should have been Pearl Jam’s Ten. Nevermind sucks
radiofan! | 2/14/2007, 12:24 pm EST
ok computer is tre bestt!!
nevermind is good but ok computer is very good haha
labuze | 2/14/2007, 12:32 pm EST
Ok Computer is so boring for me (I prefer ‘Hail to the thief’, (or kid a))… whereas Nevermind still have the same power than when I’ve heard it in 1992 !
Mark | 2/14/2007, 12:37 pm EST
yorke has his own unique vocal style which is superb.
mrad sofiene tunisia | 2/14/2007, 1:07 pm EST
absolutly radiohead’s album OK COMPUTER is the best, you know what, today is the st-valentine, i have no girlfriend but if this day is to celebrate love, i would offer a thousand million rose to radiohead, am in love with their abnormal songs. I have so many things to say but notice that, at home radiohead, at work radiohead and in car radiohead, consequence of that the audience including my familly and my colleges is increasing, ow, also i’ve made 2 accidents due to not concentrate while driving, HALELUYA , 4 MUNITE WARNIG, nude,i want none of this, videotape,etc etc 100%RADIOHEAD
Donovan | 2/14/2007, 1:07 pm EST
I love seeing all the posts about “OK Computer is a studio album..nothing without the blips and beeps….etc” Have you ever seen Radiohead live? The music that is on their albums is admittedly tinkered with, and has much to say about RH’s studio creativity and ability. It is when you see the band perform these same songs live (Paranoid Android, No Surprises, Karma Poilice, Lucky, etc.) that you see how phenomenal the band is. Now on to the point of the better album.
When I first heard Nevermind, I said “what is this? It isn’t metal, not punk, not guitar rock, what the hell is this?” And I absolutely loved it. Nevermind created a revolution that was SOOOO needed in rock music. Unfortunately the makeup and hair spray industry suffered badly due to the “grunge” explosion (see Poison/Cinderella/Warrant for reference). The even more unfortunate thing is that the rock music that has been born from Nirvana is f’n horrible now. The bad “alternative” bands all try (and fail miserably) to sound like Nevermind. Nickleback….need I say more? Cobain was a musical genius and I can only imagine what he would be creating right now would sound nothing like Nevermind. Such a shame.
Every great band has that one concept album that separates them from their previous work, and from the rest of the crowd in rock. OK Computer was Radiohead’s and they have never looked back. Since OK Computer’s release every other good “alternative” band has been influenced by it. Hell, there is even a direct copycat in Muse, and they seem to be doing pretty well commercially and critically. OKC will inevitably be one of those albums that will influence the next era of great musicians as did Dark Side of the Moon, Sgt. Peppers, etc.
So I haven’t answered anything. I give it a 51/49 split close decision to Radiohead because I can still listen to OKC today and be amazed by new sounds I missed the first 382,000 times, and I haven’t listened to Nevermind in ages. Although I am admittedly a bit biased since I own every RH song known to man, and they are my absolute favorite. With that said, I think a 51/49 split is pretty generous to Nirvana.
OKC wins. Bring on LP7!
Eric | 2/14/2007, 1:28 pm EST
I like both bands. I dont think we can compare these 2 albums…
For me, Radiohead’s best album is really ok computer (the others albums are just ok to like and nevermind album in 1991 made a revolution in the music industry…
I dont think ok computer revolutionnized something back in 1996-97…
PanicOffice | 2/14/2007, 1:30 pm EST
Are you kidding me?! Nevermind is credited with starting a cultural revolution, but the truth is, they were just in the right place at the right time! The hairbands were killing themselves with their excessive bullsh*t. Anybody who came along, would have filled that void. Nirvana were just the loudest and poppiest. They weren’t even the best band in Seattle. That title belongs to Alice in Chains.
No competition.
Radiohead created something our grandkids will cherish like we cherish Dark Side of the Moon.
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hey hey hey | 2/14/2007, 1:32 pm EST
Most polls seem to indicate that Nevermind was BOTH a critics choice and people’s choice with high sales. Ok Computer just critics choice.
jonny | 2/14/2007, 1:34 pm EST
Never have been impressed with Ok Computer and don’t really remember a fuss over that album now or then. Nevermind was everywhere and actually changed the music scene. While Cobain may be loud, Radiohead puts me asleep
William P. | 2/14/2007, 1:37 pm EST
No competition…clearly there is. Nevermind all the way
moth | 2/14/2007, 1:53 pm EST
OK computer is more complex in instrumentation, and in songwriting. It is more diverse, more originally textured, and more emotionally varied. Also, whereas Nirvana’s album was an absolutely massive commercial movement, OK computer only reached gold status in terms of album sales much, much later. More than that – Nevermind is easy enough to ‘get’ first time, placing OK Computer at another immediately unfair disadvantage (despite that being a sign of its greatness).
And as for those who think OK computer is ‘boring’.. well, they seem like the musical equivolents of the people who’d rather watch an action blockbuster than a highly acclaimed difficult 3 hour french movie, if you know what I mean!
There is so much depth to the album, that it goes completely over the heads of those who aren’t looking particuarly for what it offers. But should be.
Me | 2/14/2007, 1:57 pm EST
Nirvana Unplugged is a better album than Nevermind, and Kid A is a better album than OK Computer. Let’s compare those two.
Eh, still no comparison. Radiohead wins, and always will. Even in a comparison of Cobain vs. Yorke, Yorke wins. Sorry Nirvana, you were good, but only Radiohead has the possiblity of filling U2’s shoes as best band in the world. Cobain should have put down the gun, and picked up a phone to call rehab, then we might have something to compare.
yo | 2/14/2007, 2:24 pm EST
I haven’t read all of the comments but I noticed a trend. More people are picking OK Computer. The OKC people acknowledge and respect Nirvana and Nevermind for the most part. The minority Nevermind people seem hostile and angry toward Radiohead eager to rip it to shreds. Makes you think…
Leslie | 2/14/2007, 2:31 pm EST
I’m old enough to remember when both albums came out. While I will always have a love for nirvana and what it did for music at the time, OK Computer is still influencing music today and will never leave my ipod! From beginning to end it is a work of art that can only be compared to Pink Floyd’s Dark Side.
Chris | 2/14/2007, 2:38 pm EST
Nirvanas success is the result of MTV on the rise. MTV still loves to run Nirvana videos just because they grew hand in hand. Nirvana is the poster child of a movement, they didnt start or innovate it. Even the movements lasting value quickly faded away when MTV got another type of music to hold hands with, nu-metal. Heck, id say nu-metal was longer lasting and had more influece in the 90’s than anything Nirvana came up with. Who came after nu-metal? Boy bands. Nirvana was a product of MTV, just like any other band that sold 5+million records in the 90’s.
Radioheads success is the result of word of mouth. People telling each other about this great album they bought which your friends must listen to also, to enjoy the grand experience. They continnue to influence, not only bands, but also film makers, writers, and artists. Ok Computer’s influence goes beyond a short span and a single medium of entertainment.
OK Computer is an album that is enjoyed by all, and those that do enjoy it, absolutley love it.
Shake n Bake | 2/14/2007, 2:51 pm EST
radiohead are great, kid a is probably more revolutionary but i still think Ok Computer is too.
robs | 2/14/2007, 3:11 pm EST
what jimmy says is true, the magazines will always kiss Nirvana’s ass and tell stories about times when Cobain went mental. But the people’s choice is definitely Radiohead.
If you want proof, Rolling Stone say above that they prefer nevermind, but it’s quite obvious from all the comments that the people prefer OK Computer.
Elvis Costello once wrote a song about the media trying to aneithsetise our musical perspective – I’m glad to see it isn’t working!
Jensen | 2/14/2007, 3:16 pm EST
RS Chief: Guys, we’re clearly not reaching the younger market, and if things carry on as they are all our ageing readers will be dead inside the decade. Anyone got any ideas on how we can drum up youth interest ?
RS Underling: Why don’t we pitch a couple of the biggest bands around today against each other, you know, bring the fans from both camps flocking in to battle it out. Who knows, they may hang around and read a few more articles.
Chief: Brilliant idea pleb! Which bands were you thinking of ?
Underling: Uhm. Actually no idea chief. My musical knowledge stops around 1969
Chief: Quick, go grab that Top 500 list we did a few years back. I’m sure one of our reviewers included a couple of 90’s acts in his list. We did fire his ass didn’t we ?
Underling: Sure did Chief. Uhm, only appears to be one 90’s act on the first page, Nirvana.
Chief: Never heard of em.
Underling: Lead singer killed himself apparently.
Chief: Ah, a true rock n roller. They’re in. Who else ?
Underling: Dunno Chief
Chief: Go take a look at Pitfork/Spin, see who they fancy.
Underling: Hmm, some quirky outfit called The Radioheads appear to be winning most of the best album of the 90’s polls.
Chief: They good old American rockers boy ?
Underling: Actually they appear to be English sir.
Chief: Even better, bring in a few overseas voters. They do have this internet malarky abroad don’t they ?
Underling: Think so chief.
Chief: Right, set it up. Just make sure they don’t get to hear about it on those pesky RH fansites like AtEase and Green Plastic, or our clearly biased readership may get a bit of a run for their money.
Matt | 2/14/2007, 3:28 pm EST
I think I know why it is that Nirvana is so popular. Here are a list of some of the great English rock acts of the last 25 years:
The Sex Pistols
The Clash
Talking Heads
The Smiths
The Stone Roses
Oasis
The Libertines
Radiohead
And here’s a list of all the American ones:
R.E.M.
and Nirvana (apparently)
So it is only natural that whatever comes out of America that’s half way decent should be captured immediately and celebrated as much as possible. Only problem is, it should be R.E.M. and not Nirvana.
The real debate should be Ok Computer v Automatic for the People!
I’m not trying to provoke an international incident, it just seems that’s what happened with Nirvana, that’s all!
Phil M. | 2/14/2007, 4:15 pm EST
Nevermind
Brian Bakale | 2/14/2007, 4:34 pm EST
The question of which album is more influential and essential is a tough one to answer. All in all, looking at production, instrumentation, complexity, and completeness, OK Computer takes the cake. As far as it being more influential and essential than Nevermind that probably cannot be deemed the truth.
Nevermind started a whole musical revolution, much as Sgt. Pepper did in 1967. Nevermind killed hair bands and came into our society at the right time. A new decade of music needed a new direction and it now had something and someone to follow.
OK Computer track by track and as a whole is much more impressive. It is an album that reminds people that records are supposed to be complete works, and not just a collection of songs. A concept that has since been lost again.
Nevermind changed more than music. It changed how people dressed and wore their hair. This again is very similar to what the Beatles did with Sgt. Pepper. The obvious comparison to Radiohead is of course Pink Floyd. Who in its time came out with its most influential work after the Beatles were no longer. Pink Floyd pushed the boundaries of production, effects and instrumentation much as OK Computer did. Sgt. Pepper had more of an influence over society as a whole.
Overall Ok Computer is a much better album than Nevermind. However it’s effect on society was not as influential and essential. Very much like Sgt. Pepper influencing society more than Darkside of the Moon.
sonic youth rules | 2/14/2007, 4:39 pm EST
we’re not going to come to a consensus on this people, and the truth is, neither ok computer nor nevermind were the finest from either band’s catalogs. kid a is radiohead’s best, and in utero beats the piss out of nevermind. so really, even if this were worth debating, it would really be missing the mark. nirvana and radiohead were the two best and the two most important bands of the 90’s, and thats really all that matters.
Wizard, Belgium | 2/14/2007, 4:52 pm EST
Silly topic, which fruit is more round, the apple or the orange ?
Both bands have influenced and inspired many people, end of story.
Go play, make some music and try to compete with one of these to bands.
Lance | 2/14/2007, 4:59 pm EST
There both great albums but i would have to go with Radioheads Ok Computer,It took a lot of creativity and being artistic to make that album,Nirvana yea they started a movement but i wouldnt pick that over being creative and artistic,But thats just my opinion.
Josh | 2/14/2007, 5:27 pm EST
OK Computer. Nuff said.
Symbol | 2/14/2007, 5:33 pm EST
Matt: The Talking Heads were American.
Anyway, there’s not really much point in arguing over the two albums. They’re both great records, but their styles are really too different to be properly compared.
flying hat | 2/14/2007, 5:35 pm EST
Olivia Tremor Control- Dusk at Cubist Castle or Ok Computer
marcelo | 2/14/2007, 5:41 pm EST
radiohead tiene estilo
desd san antonio chile.
klapsikopatiko | 2/14/2007, 6:01 pm EST
name me a song from Nevermind that can be compared to Paranoid Android, and then we’ll have the answer.
Radiohead is way more creative. Nirvana was a great band, period.
juan | 2/14/2007, 6:14 pm EST
i´ve been hearing both disc since 2002 and seems obvious to me that it have influed in differents musics style. just an ignorant listener would prefer one disc.
George | 2/14/2007, 6:23 pm EST
Nirvana Vs Radiohead..
What the F***!.
is like comparing.
Sugar to Salt.
or Dark to light.
2 diferents way’s…
ok here goes my opinion.
Radiohead. how it changed my life?
make me more interested for making COMPLETE music.
take time to make your things.
stop. look. thing. like 2 or 3 times.
“hey man slow down. Idiot Slow Down” – the tourist
Nirvana.
Not falling in comercial Music.
i think Radiohead wins my influencial stuff.
so 1 for Radiohead
0 for Nirvana
foofner | 2/14/2007, 6:24 pm EST
The albums are different forms of gratification. Nirvana’s ‘Nevermind’ is instantly gratifying, lilting, impassioned, and musically adept. The thing that sets the two apart is the lasting value. Radiohead’s ‘OK Computer’, while not the band’s crowning achievement, is constantly fresh and variant. Any listener can argue equally for impact; both albums changed the face of their respective genres. The dividing factor is the lasting value of each.
Rafael venezuela | 2/14/2007, 6:35 pm EST
radiohead is the best….i dont speak english but radioehad is better jejejje nirvana is good but radiohead
is better sorry ia dont speak english jejejjee
billsimp | 2/14/2007, 6:58 pm EST
ok computer is much better than nevermind. this is the correct opinion.
Joao | 2/14/2007, 7:20 pm EST
Can anybody really remember when Ok Computer came out? After grunge died and when the britpop started do lose credabillity…
Why don’t you compare Nirvana’s Nevermind with Pearl Jam’s Ten or Vs. or Radiohead’s Ok Computer with Oasis – What’s the Story Morning Glory?
By the way i think that Ok Computer is much better than Nevermind ( for me it is my 3rd favourite album ever recorded, the 1st is Metallica’s Black Album for lots of reasons and the 2nd is U2’s Joshua Tree ) and speaking but like i’ve read somewhere here Nevermind had much more inffluence on people and in sociaty than Ok Computer…
Sorry | 2/14/2007, 7:31 pm EST
I hate to be insensitive, but for me, an inhabitant of the Pacific NW, I feel a lot of Nirvana’s musical and artistic credibility came when the band leader committed suicide, forever implanting the band’s place in a pop culture time capsule. I don’t feel any work of Nirvana compares favorably to Radiohead’s body, especially not the current dispute.
RADIOBRIDGE | 2/14/2007, 8:12 pm EST
IT SEEMS THE REAL QUESTION IS UK VS USA NIRVANA IS MOST PROBABLY THE 2ND GREATEST USA ALBUM IN 20 YEARS(RATM NO1) BUT IS IT BETTER THAN ENGLISH OK COMPUTER (NO)LISTEN TO LUCKY IT WILL MAKE YOU HOPEFUL LISTEN TO AIRBAG IT WILL MAKE YOU FLIP LISTEN TO NO SURPRISES IT WILL MAKE YOU CRY LISTEN TO CLIMBING UP THE WALLS IT WILL SCARE YOU SHITLESS LISTEN TO PARONOID ANDROID AND SAY YHANKYOU MUSIC HAS, WILL NEVER BE THIS GOOD- BUT HEY I’M A RADIOHEAD FAN SO I’M BIASED.GOD BLESS YOU ALL EVEN YOU COLDPLAY PEOPLE(MAKING THE BENDS 4 AS WE SPEAK)
Jason Murray | 2/14/2007, 8:47 pm EST
I really don’t understand this debate.
“Nevermind” sold over 10,000,000 records earning it the coveted “diamond” status, but it’s not even the best Nirvana album.
“In Utero” is Nirvana’s magnum opus and far superior to “Nevermind” in every way.
“Ok Computer” got all of the MTV posers to listen to Radiohead but it’s not even close to being as important as “Kid A”.
“Kid A” was Radiohead’s way of saying, “We will never be pigeon-holed. We don’t want to be another U2, we’ll leave that to Coldplay.” It sounds unlike anything else before it and made Radiohead stand alone in a way that “Ok Computer”, albeit amazing, couldn’t accomplish.
One is the penultimate Punk band, the other is a band that you can’t really categorize.
Even though you can’t categorize Radiohead they certainly aren’t a “rock” band. “Electioneering” is kind of a rock song but not really.
Comparing groups that are so radically different doesn’t make any sense at all and in the end will always come down to personal taste.
As far as “importance” or “how influential” a record is, it really comes down to record sales doesn’t it?
As stupid as it sounds selling records means more people are listening.
The Velvet Underground influenced just about everyone who’s ever formed a band but because they didn’t sell many records they didn’t really have the “impact” that other lesser bands have had on culture.
Even though “Nevermind” is definitely not as good as “Ok Computer” it IS the more influential record.
But really this just a spiraling argument that will never end.
I don’t understand why the music industry and rock critics need to divide and categorize things to this extent.
They’re both amazing records with almost nothing in common other than the impact they had on the people that listened to them. People will always remain emotionally connected to these records and for completely different emotions and reasons.
Why not just enjoy and listen to this music instead of trying to pick it to pieces and compare it?
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Eric | 2/14/2007, 9:06 pm EST
As much as I don’t like to conform, Nevermind is the best Nirvana album and Ok Computer is the best Radiohead album. I in fact believe that Radiohead IS a rock band, because rock asd a genre can’t really be pinned down. Its a collage of different musical styles that add up to a sound that can be greatly experimented with. There are many sub-genres of rock that can’t begin to describe it. In my mind rock is any type of music that does not fall into any other categories i.e rap, country, blues, pop and yet can be all of them at once. If that makes any sense whatsoever then great, but let me get back on topic.
I own both albums and they are both great, but I personally like Ok Computer better. As for being influential, it has to be Nevermind. I believe that many more current bands are inspired by Nirvana than Radiohead. Although this may not be a good thing because many bands (unsuccessfuly) try to copy Nirvana’s sound where as nobody tries or could even come close to immitating Radiohead, but still Nevermind is more influential.
No Surprises | 2/14/2007, 9:08 pm EST
Ok Computer is by far the greatest album of the 90s hands down!
Vurt | 2/14/2007, 9:25 pm EST
I would say that Kid A is Radiohead’s most important (and best) album. But in terms of influence, the kids who listened to Nevermind went off and formed some of the worst music ever made.
OK Computer also spawned some pretty awful imitators (although nobody has come even close to attempting to rehash the Kid A sound), the album has also inspired many bands to be different and think outside the square. Both in terms of lyrics and ideas and in a musical sense as well.
OK Computer is a wonderful example of how you can experiment with strange time signatures, key changes, interesting tunings, distortion and feedback within the basic pop framework, much like the beatles did in the 1960’s. Nirvana’s music is just another variation on the staid punk-rock principal, and those who were influenced by it didn’t bother to innovate or make anything interesting.
Nevermind is basically about personal anguish and frustration. OK Computer is a fairly disilussioned album as well, but it looks at the bigger picture and examines how society works. Songs like No Surprises and Airbag are perfect examples of this. Furthermore, despite the stereotype of Radiohead being utterly miserable, there are some powerful rays of hope that sometimes rise to the surface throughout the album, like the chorus of Lucky for example.
It seems fitting to point out that while Kurt’s way of dealing with his depression was to take drugs and eventually to blow his own brains out, Thom continued to elaborate on his message in his later albums. Today, he is actually attempting to do something about the world he lives in, and not just for his own sake, but because he is afraid of what the future will hold for his son…
Vurt | 2/14/2007, 9:38 pm EST
Oh and just a further point. To try and compare the two albums on a track by track basis is completely missing the point. Radiohead’s album isn’t a collection of songs that are intended to be be assessed on an individual basis but a complete work with unified themes and ideas. Nevermind doesn’t come close to capturing the same type of unity that was achieved on OK Computer and later perfected on Kid A.
lady newell | 2/14/2007, 9:49 pm EST
ok computer of course !!
Bruce | 2/14/2007, 11:13 pm EST
If Thom Yorke had commit suicide after the release of Ok computer the argument wouldn’t be Nevermind vs. Ok computer, it would be Ok computer vs. Dark side of the moon, or Abbey road. Kurt cobains bleached blond hair, cardigans, drug addiction, Courtney Love, and suicide influenced 10,000,000 sold records just as much as the music did. Radiohead simply wowed the world with a timeless record, that is truly a masterpiece.
Nevermind is a great record aswell, but they are just leagues apart.
Enough rambling
C.P. Jones | 2/14/2007, 11:31 pm EST
in a fist fight, kurt cobain would punch thom yorke in the face, and thom would cry, but write a song about how glad he was that it didn’t kill him. then colin greenwood would beat christ noveselik over the head with a tire iron. jonny and ed would double team pat smear. phil selway and dave grohl would sit back and enjoy white wine spritzers as the debacle escelated. Ultimately, radiohead wows nirvana with talent, and the seattle natives collapse on the dirty street because they are so “punk”
Onafriday | 2/14/2007, 11:47 pm EST
As Chris Rock said, ‘member when people used to argue – who’s better, Michael Jackson, or Prince? Prince won, ya’ll”. I appreciate Nirvana’s talent and influence. I do. But people will be listening to Radiohead, while respecting Nirvana, for far longer. As is the case with Mr. Jackson and Prince. But I Might Be Wrong…
anonymous donor | 2/15/2007, 12:27 am EST
The best album of the nineties is of course “In The Aeroplane Over The Sea” from Neutral Milk Hotel.
Roobs | 2/15/2007, 1:04 am EST
OK Computer is far more entertaining. The variey and depth on offer is unheard of. You definitly LOVE OK Computer more than you ever could with Nevermind.
Nirvana were just a flavour of the moment, the poster boy of the wave that also carried the likes of Pearl Jam and Soundgarden. Their influence has waned, already dying down. Radiohead’s influence is EVER growing, despite infamously being very private. They are the accidental biggest band in the world.
Nirvana marked a moment in music history, Radiohead is an industry of music that always gets bigger.
Give it 10 more years, and Rolling stone will regret ever putting up such a stupid article. OK Computer cant be touched for true enjoyment. Nevermind is like masturbating when you can have great sex.
andré de france | 2/15/2007, 3:05 am EST
OK COMPUTER l’emporte selon moi.NIRVANA a fait un premier pas er RADIOHEAD le suivent ce sont deux groupe de la meme puissance il est impossible de choisir je les aime tous les deux.
andré de france | 2/15/2007, 3:10 am EST
il est impossible de faire un choix entre RADIOHEAD et NIRVANA celui qui a fait le plus de bruit au depard c’est NIRVANA,mais RADIOHEAD a bien suivi et s’est fait remarqué avec OK COMPUTER super puissant je pense que RADIOHEAD est un peu devant NIRVANA que j’adore aussi.
Jake | 2/15/2007, 4:19 am EST
Ummm Ok Computer.
And for people that are naming anything other than these cds, you’re waisting your time.
jeff | 2/15/2007, 4:38 am EST
surely we have established that ok computer is better than dark side of the moon??????
As for Neevrmind, there’s really no competition.
Katia | 2/15/2007, 5:31 am EST
BOTH=FAVOURITE BANDS.
BETTER ALBUM=OK COMPUTER!!!
Josh | 2/15/2007, 5:42 am EST
Radiohead were (and are) a band that push boundaries and that is what they did with OK Computer. Musically it sounded like something from another planet and each track represents some form of importance. I think it was truly the greatest album to talk about really how shit the world is and how we will inevitably one day be the death of oursevles. While Nevermind is a great album it is too heavily towards its influences. OK Computer
however is one of a kind.
DL. | 2/15/2007, 6:24 am EST
Still today, I could listen to nevermind on repeat without getting bored. it’s different for Ok computer there’s about a fourth of the album I cant stand. Nevermind wins it. on nevermind there’s only one weak song and that’s Stay away. there,s only one way to end an album and NIrvana did it. Endless, Nameless pure energy, Climax of destruction just after one of the most haunting songs I’ve never heard..
popcorn | 2/15/2007, 6:52 am EST
OKC
Smiler | 2/15/2007, 8:51 am EST
I have to agree with the whole argument about not being able to compare the two albums because they are so different. It still is an intriguing question though.
I’m a big fan of both albums, they both had massive influences on culture and modern thinking. Anyone who has an album collection worth its salt will have both of them.
In terms of overall influence, not just restricted to these albums, I believe Radiohead as do much more for music. Nirvana in their time were the voice that was saying what their peers needed to hear and that made them incredible.
In terms of the influence purely based on the album I’d have to say Nevermind gave birth to a much wider sound. They were the difference in music then and they inspired other musicians to look for their own different sound.
I don’t think there would have been an OK Computer without Nevermind, but like all great masters, one day their great feats will be surpassed.
I think if Nirvana had the benefit of time and hindsight that Radiohead had in aftermath of Nevermind they may have produced a much more seamless album.
Radiohead and Nirvana spoke the same language: the difference was while Nirvana screamed and shouted in their sneakers and jeans fighting to be heard, Radiohead spoke quietly and simply and everyone sat up and listened.
The messages were the same, the talent was the same but the mentality was different.
Radiohead’s OK Computer.
Mo | 2/15/2007, 10:03 am EST
Biggest Album: Nevermind
Best Album: OK Computer
Most Influential Album: Tie
Staying Power: Tie – Both are going to be remembered for a very long time.
So who wins? I don’t know, I’m biased- OK Computer is one of my two or three favorite albums, and I still listen to it all the time.
If I was going to play a bunch of stuff from the 90’s, I’d rather listen to Oasis or The Verve than Nirvana. I can’t stand teen angst.
Donovan | 2/15/2007, 10:14 am EST
Jensen | 2/14/2007, 3:16 pm EST
FUNNIEST POST HERE! Bravo!
Jim | 2/15/2007, 11:38 am EST
I’m 45 years old and had lost interest in rock music. OK Computer did what Nevermind never did, it got me excited about rock music again.
OK Computer!
michael | 2/15/2007, 11:54 am EST
this is the best topic ever!simply because nirvana and radiohead are my two favorite bands,that being said both albums are great,but nirvana has kurt cobain,whom was way more talented then thom yorke,so if i had to choose,nevermind because kurts the man!
ashley | 2/15/2007, 12:30 pm EST
OK Computer is by far the winner. radiohead does not get the credit they deserve. they are brilliant. lyrically they go where no other band has.
S. Adams | 2/15/2007, 1:39 pm EST
I love Nirvana, but how can anyone say, as I have read above, that Kurt Cobain was more talented than Yorke and the boys from Radiohead. Nirvana could never come up with melodies as intricate as Radiohead’s that can be duplicated live, Kurt Cobain was a poor guitarist (as he has admitted), and Nirvana could never pull their material off live very proficently. OK Computer, all the way, grunge and punk are dead fads that were more about fashion than music. BTW, Oasis is an overrated Beatles wannabe with one of the most boring frontmen ever.
Aaron Spading | 2/15/2007, 2:31 pm EST
ok computer. the least exhausting album ever.
Ronald | 2/15/2007, 3:01 pm EST
One thing about the comments i read, almost all in the side of okc, is, how many of these posts were made for people a least 25-30 years old? the mayority i think. Then, what if the both albums were released at the same time? what opinion would have those people with 14-18 years old? for sure, not okc. why? cause the teens rather “feel” the music than “hear” the music. the olds ( including myself) choose the opposite, in general terms, of course. Well, answering the question, wich one was most influential, i think Nevermind, cause i´m a person who doesn’t have anything to do with the music world, a common people. In the case of musicians or some, it has to be okc; nevermind=energy, okc=quality. What influence have on me these albums? nevermind really changed my music preference (from soft to heavy ,i teen); ok computer to listen & enjoy the music ( even when i like tooooo much the heavy until today).
Kane Blueriver | 2/15/2007, 3:05 pm EST
Radiohead is one of the greatest Bands that ever existed and will exist…
WozzA | 2/15/2007, 3:24 pm EST
Man, what an impossible quandry. Probably the “best” is OK Computer, but my favourite is Nevermind. Nevermind changed my life. Until I heard that album I, like all children, liked rubbish (I was 11 at the time). We all do when we’re very young. Suddenly here was something new, harsh and brilliant and it’s effect has shaped my music taste to this day; I’m still more interested in music that is genuinely different and not mass-marketed cack. Nevermind was the start which lead me to Radiohead (and Godspeed, Aphex, Squarepusher, Tom Waits (yes I know he was around before, but I didn’t know.. I liked cack remember)), currently the best band around IMO. OK Computer is a grander artistic, intellectual and technical achievement (hence the better comment at the start) but Nevermind is Nevermind.
The 2 greatest bands ever though, no doubt. Just ahead of Seven Ascended Masters, if you can find their stuff.
whocaresaboutmyname | 2/15/2007, 4:00 pm EST
nirvana would not be doing anything close to what radio has done after OK Computer. i think if kurt hadn’t had died, they would have gone and ruined all their credibility.
radiohead blows nirvana out of the water.
Danielaramone | 2/15/2007, 4:06 pm EST
Ok Computer!!!
steph | 2/15/2007, 4:10 pm EST
i loved both but my allegiance is now and forever will be with radiohead. hearing exit music the first time blew me away..and still does. i do agree with the guy who said that kid a is the better radiohead album, but none the less my vote goes to okc over nevermind.
Pat | 2/15/2007, 4:21 pm EST
Many artists imitated Nirvana post Nevermind — some great, some bad. You can really hear their influence in other groups. You can’t hear Radiohead’s influence because what they did was really encourage groups to try many new methods of recording. No one sounds like them, and in terms of imitators, it almost shows that they were less influential, but probably a good deal more innovative. They made music that sounded different and new after OK Computer. Nirvana’s music all has a similiar feel to it. Radiohead therefore is a better artist, and OK Computer I think is a better album, but Nirvana is more influential.
mr A | 2/15/2007, 4:34 pm EST
Nirvana were the first band i ever really liked, howerver i grew tired of Kurts winey lyrics and far too simple riffs. OK computer genuinely moved me to a different place. i never knew what music was until I heard that album. it changed definitions and ideas, causing many more artists to draw from the diverse range within the album and its experimentation rather than imitating it. OKC caused people to rethink music.
Nevermind simply caused numerous imitation acts that killed the music.
OK COMPUTER is an unbelievable piece of work and will get my vote, although i do still love Nirvana.
Rockne Shan | 2/15/2007, 4:36 pm EST
Unbridled Capitalism has brought the world much to be gloomy about, especially in recent decades. And while Kobain and Nirvana do an excellent job of describing youth angst in a world that’s growing more and more alienating for humans with souls still in tact with Nevermind, Yorke and Radiohead permeate the surface angst and delve into the depths of what it truly means to be human in the modern world with OK Computer.
Cobain may have died on the cross for post industrialized Prozac ridden youth, but Yorke’s first chapter (Ok Computer) of his thesis on the world as we now know it, will stand the test of time as a reminder to everyone that being paranoid is always better than becoming an android.
FakePaulsticTrees | 2/15/2007, 4:51 pm EST
OKC is one of, if not THE, finest albums ever made. I could listen to it everyday, and actually do find a way to listen to Thom or RH everyday. Only when feeling nostalgic for my college years will I pull out Nevermind, Bleach, or In Utero. (though I usually go straight for Independent Worm Saloon or the Beasties) But I can Backdrift, Creep, Go to Sleep, Stop Whispering, Hunt Bears, Suck Young Blood, Sulk or Disappear Completely whenever and wherever I want to, because it stills feels fresh. OKC is the clear winner, and Radiohead a far, FAR superior band. Though, I Might be Wrong…
(Fade Out)
James Messer | 2/15/2007, 5:06 pm EST
Nevermind did break grounds, as far as mainstream rock, however it did rip from The Pixies. Cobain never intended for any of his success to happen. OK Computer never gets old I have listened to it weekly for the last 4 years (I was ten when it was released) I did like Nevermind when I was in grade school. OK Computer is a lot less accessable and a lot more allegorical. As previously said, Radiohead can recreate their music. I saw them in concert and it was beautiful, and pure emotion. Nirvana was a mediocre live band. Radiohead is the better band, maybe Radiohead wouldn’t have gotten the mainstay they have but nonetheless, Radiohead is the new Nirvana, the new Led Zeppelin, the new Pink Floyd. They are the new tyrants of rock. Nirvana was an alright band that changed music. Radiohead is a great band that transformed music. OK Computer is the victor in this debate, hands down. Anyone that says otherwise is a Phillistine. Or Dave Grohl, but he’s in Foo Fighters now so that cost Nirvana a point. the tally in my brain is :
Ok computer 90% Nevermind 10%
samberg | 2/15/2007, 5:42 pm EST
Nirvana was more influential. However, without Nirvana, we wouldn’t have Avril Lavigne or Good Charlotte, and I think that would be a better world. Nevermind probably spawned more trash music than anything else.
Plus, I just turned on OKC and got goosebumps. That just doesn’t happen with Nevermind.
Jeff | 2/15/2007, 5:48 pm EST
As far as cultural impact goes – Nirvana will win over Radiohead and Nevermind over OK Computer. This is true just because of the way the music industry works.
However, the idea of influence is very different. From the posts I’ve read, it seems like Nirvana fans no absolutely NOTHING about grunge. To start, Nirvana didn’t start grunge, instead it was started by a tribute band called Temple of the Dog (check out the 1990 s/t release). This band consisted of Chris Cornell, Eddie Vedder, Stone Gossard, Mike McCreedy, Jeff Ament, and Matt Cameron (Two members from Soundgarden and four from Pearl Jam). These two bands went on to release their own respective albums at nearly the exact same time as Nevermind (Badmotorfinger and Ten were all 1991 breakthroughs). Despite the fact that these other two albums were vastly better than Nevermind, Nevermind’s simple catchy riffs and commercial appeal sent them into the spotlight, but in no way should allow them to take credit for starting the grunge movement. Instead Nevermind was a mixed heavily with influences from the Pixies, the Sex Pistols, and Temple of the Dog. Nevermind was hardly a breakthrough in originality. Claims to their grunge influences are void.
OK Computer on the other hand is a sheer masterpiece pumping influences into alternative genre that can be matched by no other band since Pink Floyd or the Velvet Underground. The independent alternative scene is alive with influence and it is slowly becoming the dominant music of our generation.
So two arguments come into play here:
Cultural Impact: Nirvana by miles
Musical Influence: Radiohead by miles
It’s hard to say which is more important; maybe that’s preference, but I think I’ve made my bias clear.
Nick | 2/15/2007, 5:55 pm EST
Nevermind has dated – I can’t imagine OKC ever dating. Still sounds as good now as the first time i heard it.
RyanM | 2/15/2007, 6:05 pm EST
Winner: OK Computer…in an intersteller burst!!! There is very little fluctuation among the Nevermind tracks (stale). The OKC vs Soft Bulletin debate seems more justified.
Blake | 2/15/2007, 6:28 pm EST
I think Radiohead makes extremely intelligent and sensitive music that sweeps in ways one can’t deny.
Nirvana is a good loud blast to society and for that I love them.
But the music, of Radiohead, it just floats perfectly.
Radiohead will prove to be looked at and listened to more as time moves on, my opinion.
Mad Jack Kash | 2/15/2007, 7:11 pm EST
I’ve read about 15% of the comments posted and I just had to just jump the f___ in and say… It’s obviously OK Computer.
Nevertheless, Nevermind did change the face rock in terms of the visual MTV defined generation. Kurt and company dressed like they didnt care what people thought of them.. they jumped out in front of crowd on a stage and performed serious music about their alienation whilst Radiohead followed 6 years later to speak alienation on a global level. Nevermind was selfish, although gloriously constructed, while Ok Computer was vast and daring and gloriously constructed. Each song on that album is not afraid to be what it was. The production value notwithstanding, you have an album that isn’t at all buried in a time frame with face forever etched into a decade defined by people not giving a damn. That was Nevermind, and unfortunately that what nevermind will always be. The guys of Nirvana were not really all that musically informed. They made music coming from a quite cluasterphobic, uneducated american field (not their fault) and in honesty they were just a FACE of a movement that had been burgeoning for many years. Seatle rock… not just Seatle rock but indie bands with loud guitar who didnt dress to impress and were just about the music. They were sellable. We remember Nirvana oinly because of visuals. We remember Nirvana only because Kurt killed himself and had tabloid friendly life.
We DO remember Radiohead through for still pumping out albums and being talented and continuing to make us rethink music far after Ok computer. Thom, a heroine addict? no. Married to a starlett? no. These guys are pop culturely boring. They are all educated english mid-late thirty somethings…and what makes them memorable would only be their amazing ability to tell stories in music with music and not against it. They can construct songs that deconstruct the world at large and switch styles….and are industry and carear savvy to not bore us.
Ok computer is like 1984 or any sci novel… science fiction we all know is science with an X factor and most sci fi novels become science fact. Ok computer still is relevant, if not MORE relevant.
come on…it’s themes of alienation through technology becoming your best friend and worst enemy can be seen RIGHT NOW as we argue this on our keyboards when we probally have boyfriends and girlfriends to converse with and jobs to tend to.
Escape.
hands down OK.
timeless. still living.
Endrup | 2/15/2007, 8:30 pm EST
When people think of Nirvana and Nevermind, the first thing that comes to there head is “Smells Like Teen Spirit”, and what a great fucking song. But people forget about all the other songs on the album…They’re all high quality. Don’t just listen to the singles, listen to songs like “Territorial Pissings” and “Lounge Act” too. I respect Radiohead for they’ve done with OK Computer, but Nevermind is by far a greater album. It has way more depth and realnes to it. Though both albums are great, it’s by far Nevermind that is the best!
And by the way! Kurt Cobains death has nothing to do with the popularity of Nirvana and Nevermind. If Kurt had not died, I still don’t think they would have been playing. But that doesnt change the fact that Nevermind is a great album. Actually the best. Ever!
Zack | 2/15/2007, 8:50 pm EST
think of all the bands these days that are ifluenced by radiohead. And i think the songs on ok computer are alot better. but i still like nirvana
Tom Nunn | 2/15/2007, 8:53 pm EST
Hands down ok computer is better. One surmises that if post modern man breaking down created a sound, ok computer would be it. i cant think of an album since dark side of the moon, regardless of how cliche that is, which would be fitting of the title “best album”. Ok Computer…
jack | 2/15/2007, 9:03 pm EST
OK Computer… Its just simple…. You have to be dumb to prefer Nevermind. It’s excellent, catchy pop with some very good lyrics but OK Computer is a far superior album from track to track. It’s intelligent, meaningful, sensitive, complicated, simple and ingenius all at the same time.
sal | 2/15/2007, 9:19 pm EST
ok computer all the way. Nevermind is a good cd but Nirvana has better cds first of all bleach is much much much better then nevermind. Radiohead is the best band to walk the earth in my opinion. Iv herd alot of stuff and nothing has interested me more then radiohead. im listien to radiohead right now and i would be really pissed if someone put on nevermind.
Courtney | 2/15/2007, 9:52 pm EST
OK Computer. Radiohead are the best band to exist since the Beatles.
The end.
pukingkermit | 2/15/2007, 10:02 pm EST
This is really an apples and oranges argument. This would be more like comparing The Who with the Led Zeppelin with the only common bond that they both play guitar, and were both could carry pretty much the same audiences. (This also relatively fits in timelines too). OK Computer is hands down my favorite album of all time, however being a Seattleite; I have a respect for what Nevermind did.
Nevermind was the first really commercially marketable “alternative” album, and really spurned not only “grunge” but also the whole “alternative” label (I am using the alternative label loosely). If you really want to give credit to the first successful “grunge” band, you would have to go with Soundgarden. The reason Nirvana hit it big before Soundgarden was because the industry did not have a way of categorizing them. They got labeled as a Metal band when they really weren’t. Nirvana’s contribution was encapsulating a completely different sound into short and powerful soundbites, that was easy to sell to mass markets (radio, video, ect though I think of radio like fast food). And without the contributions of Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains and PJ, breaking the stagnation in the music industry as a whole (Warrant, Back Street Boys, ect) groups like Radiohead may have been stuck in relative obscurity or forced to sound a certain way in order to get a record deal (look at the noticeable change Blur made in their sound from 1991 to 1997).
Talent and innovation between the same is debatable. I think that Radiohead is far and away more innovative, lyrically I would rate them as near equals but with Curt Kobain deceased, who knows if this would hold true. And as for technical musical talent, I may have to lean towards Nirvana. Now before you soil yourselves, I am talking about technical talent, not creativeness. Many forget that David Groll (Foo Fighters) was the drummer for Nirvana, and is quite possibly the living best drummer next to Neil Pert from Rush and up until his last album, performed all instrumental parts of his albums (Prince and Trent Reznor are the only other ones whom I can recall who make this a regular habit).
Which brings me back to my original statement, it is not a fair comparison as they were just too different. If you look at how groups who emulate them have progressed, you would never pit their offspring against each other (Radiohead is to Coldplay or Muse as Nirvana is to the White Stripes, though I am sure some may sour at those comparisons).
I more liken Radiohead to Pink Floyd, just a group with such a unique and innovative sound that drawing comparisons to any other equally big group just does not work.
M Davis | 2/15/2007, 11:53 pm EST
I can’t choose between the two. They are both my favorites. Tool’s Anema too. But OK computer didn’t hit me until I watched Romeo and Julliette after the tragic scene at the end and hearing Exit Music I was hooked I listen to Radiohead everynight when I sleep. But Nirvana was an explosion. Cut the throats of all the 80s hair bands. I couldn’t imagine being with out either cd’s they are both my favorite from the 90’s. 00’s sucks..
Anonymous | 2/15/2007, 11:55 pm EST
both albums are works of genius, but when it comes down to it, OK Computer is simply the better album, sure Nevermind has great melodies, but OK Computer has that and then some, i don’t think anyone will understand what OK Computer means to me
i just think its bullshit that rolling stone didnt put OK Compuer in their top 10 greatest albums ever made, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN #1 GODDAMN IT!
M Davis | 2/15/2007, 11:58 pm EST
I read someone say Nevermind was dated what are you kidding if it came out today it would be as huge as it was then. Its a once in a generation cd. Radiohead is like Neil Young just incredibly talented song writers, artists. But nothing moved more people than Nevermind. I hope Radiohead lasts forever. I couldn’t imagine the earth without the light from them.
gordo | 2/16/2007, 12:54 am EST
i’ve kept my one on this for a while…
i got this e-mail from a buddy talkin’ about some debate between which of these two albums(For those of you who haven’t been paying attention: Nevermind v OK Computer). Nevermind makes you feel sad and alone. OK Computer gives you a sense of belonging…after hearing that i realized that i wasn’t the only one that’s scared of technology taking over…that saved my life! so in short, Radiohead. Period.
The Thief. | 2/16/2007, 1:02 am EST
Nevermind VS. Ok Computer?
Well, I recently got into Nevermind and OKC has been a little boring.
Both albums have done a lot of good for bands.
Nevermind contains simple songs. Like what I’ve read, Kurt was going for simple songs, but with a heavy edge.
Radiohead was avoiding what Nirvana did. Radiohead made songs that didn’t want to be hits, but they did.
Its hard to decide. So I won’t.
Dakota | 2/16/2007, 2:39 am EST
I’m near vomiting from how utterly moronic so many of your responses are…
#1- OK Computer is going to have an inherent advantage over Nevermind in this poll because the average Radiohead fan is a computer nerd in their mid 20’s reading online polls, whereas the average Nirvana fan either died from a heroine overdose in about 1995, or is 33 and currently works as a mall security guard.
#2- To those of you who choose OK Computer because it is more compositionally elaborate (which it is), you are simply showing your ignorance to the punk ethos. Nirvana was born out of bands like The Wipers, The Pixies, Agent Orange, The Vaselines, etc…they WERE NOT TRYING to see if they could fit 17 minor chords in one song. What they were trying to do, is make your testicles rattle with unbridled visceral hellfire, in a deceivingly eerie, advanced way.
#3- More goes into a great album than songcraft. There is also production. And while OK Computer has some of the most precise layering you’ll hear on any album ever, Nevermind has, perhaps, THEE GREATEST DRUM PRODUCTION OF ALL TIME…on “Come As You Are” that drums steams into that song like night rain. The drum roll intro to “Breed” is frighteningly propulsive, and for that matter, Novacelic’s bass on “Lithium” was so gnarled and awkward in it’s note selection that it could be compared to nothing popular at the time.
#4- THE BANDS TRY FOR SUCH DIFFERENT ENDPOINTS!!! Thom Yorke has the voice of an majestic ghost.
Kurt Cobain had the voice of a seering exorcism. They’re both instantly identifiable, and both are utterly capable of chilling you, but in vastly different ways. What they EXCEL AT is different too…Nirvana couldn’t sound as ornately filmic as Radiohead if they tried. Conversely, Radiohead couldn’t sound as authentically raw
as Nirvana even if they tried.
#5- Let’s also keep in mind, Radiohead is a band of 5, Nirvana a band of 3. As if the reasoning already stated isn’t enough to debunk the “complicated vs. simple” argument of Radiohead supporters..take away Jonny and Ed, and make it just Thom with his guitar, Colin with his bass, and Phil with his drums…all of a sudden, Radiohead would sound markedly less complex than they do.
So be fair about that. Nirvana only had 7 total strings to work with at anyone time.
#6- I touched on this earlier, but once again, age. I dare say about 80% of respondents here were a little too young to have their critical mid to late teens influenced by Nevermind, whereas OK Computer is right up the alley in terms of adolecent significance, of the 24 to 30 age group now, which I bet makes up a massive chunk of respondents. 31 year olds today, weren’t even old enough to drive when Nevermind came out. So realize that inherent advantage.
#7- You can’t hold Nevermind in contempt for all the horrible crap-bands they created because Radiohead have done the same thing, and regardless, you can’t hold a band in contempt because a bnch of idiots try to come along after them and do a horrible inadequate mimmic of their style. Led Zeppelin was an immensely talented band, but look at some of the crap they spawned! And Radiohead is just as guilty; bands like Muse and Coldplay and Keane to name but a few do pathetically inadequate impersonations of Thom and company.
That is just a stupid argument to even include what crap each one spawns…that’s not their fault, it’s the crap-bands fault!
In conclusion, all I’m saying, is most of you are too young to understand the monumental impact that Nirvana had in terms of opening U.S. music culture up to a new sound, and most of you are way coffee-house to appreciate aggresivity in music, and hence, dismiss the brilliantly powerful aggressivity in Nevermind, with being “low brow” merely for having big hairy balls. Also lyrically, hate ot tell ya guys, but Mr.Cobain was every bit if not more advanced than Thom Yorke in that department.
Yorke sings his lyrics so beautifully that you sometimes forget what a relatively small range and limited poeticness he has. Cobain was poetry even without music.
And again, I give the nod to OKC, and Radiohead are one of the greatest bands of all-time, but let’s not date OURSELVES by downplaying how massive Nevermind was, else our younger siblings will be on here in 10 years talking about how Nickelback blows Radiohead away, and how dated Radiohead sound. And that would make us all commit suicide. And I don’t want that. So let’s be fair to Nevermind.
So which do I think is a better album? By a MUCH SMALLER MARGIN than you all are acting like, it would be OK Computer…but it’s REAL CLOSE…
TheChiz | 2/16/2007, 3:12 am EST
And the winner is… The Pixies!!!
C’mon everyone, cheer for the common thread…
Jeff | 2/16/2007, 5:51 am EST
Dakota, it’s interesting you mention Led Zeppelin, surely their drum production easily outshines nirvana??!!! Actually, I must say one of the best drum performances and indeed productions I’ve heard so far is Airbag, but then again, I’m not entirely sure that they weren’t electronic!
Maybe for the US, Nirvana brought out punk, but we had The Clash and The Sex Pistols over in England many, many years before and Nirvana just doesn’t measure up to either of these bands, plus they take away the originality factor that Nirvana fans are so desperate to cling onto.
Smells like teen spirit has a shit load of energy and I couldn’t help but smile when the long haired kids at school who probably should have been listening to Led Zeppelin but were too young blasted it out on their car stereos. But then again there’s Anarchy in the UK which has more energy and more originality and just makes me smile more.
OK computer.
dan | 2/16/2007, 5:58 am EST
apart from fitter happier and possibly paranoid android, ok computer could have been played in a live studio format (one instrument per band member) and very light on production and it would still be the best album of all time. The songs are just great! I for one can’t wait til they do an unplugged performance
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clive | 2/16/2007, 8:48 am EST
now that was a good idea!!
i’m glad to see ok computer won that battle, a good result for music.
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glad to see okcomp won, a good result for music. j kl
noe | 2/16/2007, 10:41 am EST
Ok Computer, that’s all
Donovan | 2/16/2007, 11:26 am EST
Dakota – most of your points are pretty valid, and I was surprised after reading them that you chose OK Computer. Pleasantly surprised.
Here is my musical lineage:(this will show my age) Many of the respondents that Dakota refers to will not recognize these names.
Christopher Cross – first cassette purchased (you can laugh)
The Commodores – first concert (laugh again but Lionel Richie’s glass piano was bad ass!)
Heard Ozzy Osbourne’s Blizzard of Ozz – radical change ensues (I think this might be when I became an atheist, but parents thought I was a Satanist. he he)
Iron Maiden – Killers (loved the artwork)
Iron Maiden – The Number of the Beast (parents REALLY thought I was a Satanist)
Iron Maiden became my favorite band through my teens, owned every album up until Fear of the Dark (they got lame for a decade or so until their most recent album – it’s not bad!)
Metallica – taste got heavier while hair bands hurled and purged their awful sh*t on MTV and radio
Nirvana – another change comes (what is this, I never liked punk because as a “metal head” that wasn’t cool, but THIS I like!!!) and I become the boring grunge listener AIC, Soundgarden, PJ (Ten is one of the best debut albums ever), then hear Janes Addiction’s “Ritual De Lo Habitual” second side and think “now THIS is cool!”
Enjoy a Korn album here and there but “alternative” rules my CDs and ulimately my first round of Napster “borrowings”
Major change alert!!!
Wife buys me a Bush CD (gag me with a harpoon) for Christmas and I return it for a slightly different sound at the time, Radiohead “The Bends”
–the rest is history, the best return I ever made.
Although Nirvana was very influential in a change in my musical tastes in 91-92, my 94 purchase of Radiohead got me into much more interesting music and my ipod is more full now with Janes Addiction, Flaming Lips, Arcade Fire, Tool, Beck, and even Missy Elliott than the Judas Priest, Metallica, Maiden stuff I grew up with.
After reviewing my post, I realize how lame I am, but decide to continue to post as maybe this will purge some of the “lameness” from me in a healing way. I am going to drink some coffee and listen to OK Computer again now while my face wrinkles and my bones crack. If you read all the way through to this point, you may want to think about spending your time more wisely.
Chris K. | 2/16/2007, 11:46 am EST
Hmmm…Nevermind or Ok Computer? Both have influenced countless bands and both are considered landmarks of the 90’s. They also are from two different sides of the rock spectrum…grunge and experimental rock. So if you can’t judge them influentially or comparatively than what do you judge them by? The albums themselves, people. In this way, I am proud to say OK COMPUTER wins.
The overall concept and dense muiscal composition of OK Computer will, in the long run, beat out Nevermind. Sure, both are great bands and albums (though it is impossible to compare the bands themselves as Nirvana were around for such a small amount of time), but taken out of context, OK Computer has a better, more timeless quality. Sure, “Smells Like Teen Spirit” will be the first song you will learn on guitar, not “Paranoid Android”, but “Paranoid Android” and the rest of OK Computer will be what you come back to throughout your life.
And that is truly the greatest measure of an album.
zelig | 2/16/2007, 12:42 pm EST
I think Nevermind is a great album, and I remember the impact it had on American music – but it still seems like fashion to me. It was the right “voice” for that time…but it seems timely to me.
I think “OK Computer” is so much more subtle and powerful, it is something that grows on you – it changes you and the way you listen to things.
Mostly, though, Radiohead consistently write about issues of faith – how we humans put our faith into things (religion, government, technology, relationships, etc.), and how those things never live up to our expectations. Nirvana was more internalized, more about individual angst and misfitedness…less a statement about the civilization that we of the West have created for ourselves.
“OK Computer” is the album that puts me back together when I can’t make sense of this world. I was never promised that life was going to be easy, but having someone else articulating it better than yourself…that is the key.
And then there’s Radiohead’s music – the incredibly sophisticated and varied influences…Nirvana to me just did hard edged pop songs. Could Nirvana ever have done “Just” AND “Arpeggi: Ether Festival”??? I think not.
Christian | 2/16/2007, 1:54 pm EST
OK Computer the best in all aspects
scentless apprentice | 2/16/2007, 3:21 pm EST
I think there is a more important question; In Utero v. OK Computer. Nevermind is awesome, but in the same way The Bends is- pretty good stuff, but a setup for what is to come. In Utero is really when Nirvana put it together, production-wise and thematically. The same for OK Computer, the electronic aspects of the songs along with the focused societal paranoia. I would say In Utero is a better album than OK computer, but unfortunately I think that opinion is influenced by the way the next year after its release turned out for Kurt Cobain. It for some reason, to me at least, made the whole album feel real. It really is an endless debate though, most important is the recognition that both of these albums are the cream of the crop that our generation produced, I think both will be remembered as absolute classics.
radioman | 2/16/2007, 5:18 pm EST
ok, ok computer its a lot better!!
ok computer belongs to the sgt peppers, dark side of the moon category!! nevermind doesn’t
its a good album but ok computer its..just..CLASSIC!!.. the best record I’ve ever heard..
DL. | 2/16/2007, 5:59 pm EST
as RS suggest here’s my song by song comparison
Airbag VS SLTS [SLTS by miles 2Npts]
Paranoid Android VS In Bloom [Paranoid Android wins 1Rpts]
Subteranean Alien vs CAYA [caya wins by miles 2Npts]
Exit Music VS Breed [Breed wins 1Npts]
Let Down VS Lithiutm [Let Down wins 1 R pts
Karma POlice Vs Polly [Karma POlice by Miles 2 R pts]
Fitter Happiper vs TP [TP wins it by miles 2 Npts]
elctroneering vs Drain you [Drain you wins 1 n pts]
Lounge Act Vs Climbing up the walls [bot songs are my fav from each album but Climbing up the walls wins 1 R pts]
Stay Away vs no surprises [stay away 1 Npts
on a plain vs Lucky [lucky 1 R pts]
SITW+EN vs the tourist [sitw and EN by miles 2 Npts]
Nirvana 10 pts Radiohead 6 pts.
personnaly I prefer nevermind as it’s solid from point A to Z. but comparing albums of different styles mainly rest on personal preferences it’s like comparing apples with mangos. both album influenced a different generation if nevermind wasn’t there we would stilll listen to the jackson family and mariah carey and wathever top 40 shit. if radiohead wasn’t there with Ok computer we would still stucked in that post Nirvana years where copy cat clones like bush and Creed are dominating teh market. both albums have a different public of fan base some are fans of both bands. Punk rock versus modern rock, nowaday I stand in noise pop, no wave or call it sonic youth. Dakota said all that needed to be said. the only thing you can objjectively observe are slaes, prizes and trophies won by both albums. just as every magazines that listed the top 1990ies album all othem had wether nevermind or Ok Computer definately the 2 best albums of the 90ies but theese are not comparable from an objective point of view as you have two different fan bases of 2 different generations.
DL
Javier | 2/16/2007, 6:14 pm EST
FOr me it’s Pearl Jam’s Ten
but between these two albums I’d choose Ok Computer
David | 2/16/2007, 6:21 pm EST
OK Computer.
J | 2/16/2007, 7:54 pm EST
as a high school student I know I haven’t been exposed to quite as music as some other people but I know that when I listened to OK Computer it grabbed me. Although Nirvana has undoubtedly influenced many rock bands, I think Radiohead reaches a level far beyond Nirvana. While Nevermind certainly brings out angst-soaked hard-rock songs that are fun and easy to listen to, OK Computer, I feel, has captured so many moods and sounds that Nevermind could never touch. From the comforting pulsating of Let Down, to the sleepy depressed tone of No Surprises, the introspective sinister nature of Karma Police, and the manic craziness of Paranoid Android, OK Computer captures so many moods and feelings that it is an absolute classic and a work of art. No offense to Nevermind.
cheesecrop | 2/16/2007, 8:06 pm EST
Put a post up when this first showed up. I’m stunned to see so many people weighing in on this. There are a few people who readily admit they are a little older. I’m one of them, and to anyone who’s upset about their musical past before Nirvana… don’t be!! Hell, I was once rockin with Dokken (Under Lock and Key in 86). I never would have believed what I’d be listening to in 94 but at the time the metal seemed pretty cool. A minor defense for Nirvana:
1. One person correctly noted Cobain never set out to create some sort of grunge movement and that he had no clue what “grunge” would have even sounded like.
2. Two different era’s. The world was a different place in 97 than 91. Yorke has possession of a hindsight circa 97 that Cobain never could have circa 91.
I admitted I had never listened to O.K. computer, so I won’t try to do some in depth comparison. I will say one thing though. All of you who are praising the album are saying how it changed your life, how it’s beyond the beyond, etc., while complaining that Nirvana created a conformist mentality. Yet all your praising is taking on the very conformity you claim Radiohead was breaking away from. ARE YOU SURE THIS ALBUM IS HAVING THE DESIRED EFFECT YOU WANT IT TO?
Agri Moreira | 2/16/2007, 8:14 pm EST
OK PC is the best of all times.
Nevermind. | 2/16/2007, 8:26 pm EST
Wow. Theres a huge Bias towards ok Computer here… Are you all retarded? Ok Computer had some good songs (paranoid Android etc..) but it had its lulls too… (airbag, Exit music) Where as EVERY song on Nevermind was amazing. There was not a single track on that album that let the listener down. Its completely retarded to even put the albums in the same catagory they inspired different types of music… This is a retarded comparison but one that should EASILY be won by Nirvana…
tiffo | 2/16/2007, 10:39 pm EST
Ok Computer is the best of the best of the best of disc of all the times!!!!!!!
OK COMPUTER | 2/16/2007, 11:33 pm EST
OK COMPUTER… is a masterpiece, a real invention, a completely new concept on music & sound… not even similar to some Radiohead´s previous album…
Also none (in 10 years) has been able to make an album like that: NOBODY. Regular people/musicians has not enough talent.
NEVERMIND, just songs, not big deal; maybe if Cobain were still alive, people wouldn´t make a big deal about Nirvana or Nevermind itself. All this Nirvana stuff become into some mighty thing in my opinion just because Kurt is dead.
Also you can´t compare american artists with british ones.
Dr John Bender | 2/17/2007, 12:29 am EST
This is the dumbest debate ever. Ok Computer would have never happened had Nevermind never happened. (No Teen Spirit on the radio = No Creep on the radio.) That being said, OKC may be one of the greatest albums ever. Then again, so is Nevermind.
There are kids who are getting their driver’s licenses this year who were born when Nevermind first hit. Think about that, and then think about how we are so old that we have to have these irrelevant discussions about aged rock albums to somehow feel vital and reconnected with our youths.
Somebody put on a Shins records and pour me the decaf.
Marco | 2/17/2007, 8:33 am EST
Kid A :]
dave | 2/17/2007, 9:04 am EST
sorry. nevermind is just a tribute to nevermind the bollocks by the sex pistols. The only reason the music magazines like it so much is that it comes with a load of drug taking, wild behaviour stories, without these it would mean nothing.
Radiohead on the other hand keep themselves to themselves, shun interviews and don’t go to award ceromonies, making it hard for journalists to come up with anything to write about them.
The Q magazine once stuck Sid Viscous on the front cover celebrating the 25th anniverssary of his death. He was an unintelligent smackhead who couldn’t even play his instrument, but you could write plenty about him. Same with Nirvana.
OK Computer is a fantastic album and nothing more. It doesn’t need any stories behind it.
dave | 2/17/2007, 9:11 am EST
oh yeah and radiohead would definitely exist without nirvana as would their album ok computer and indeed their single, creep. This is because of bands like Pink Floyd, The Clash, and The Smiths and many more that probably contributed to Nirvana’s scene as well.
Rob H. | 2/17/2007, 9:43 am EST
Nevermind isn’t even in the same league as OK Computer. Not even close…and if you think it is you’re a moron. Period!
Andrew W. | 2/17/2007, 10:06 am EST
I wasn’t going to comment, but someone here said “but it had its lulls too… (airbag, Exit music)” Are you kidding me? Airbag and exit music are amazing songs. If you had any taste in music at all you would see that both of these songs provide balance to the album. Now I’m not saying one album is better, both are great albums in different ways. Comparing the albums is like comparing a one type of monkey to another, they’re just different deal with it.
James O'Malley | 2/17/2007, 10:42 am EST
While nevermind was influencial in its own right, radioheads ability to radically evolve with every single ssong on every record and play in insane time signatures makes them much better musicians than nirvana.
ok computer.
Michael | 2/17/2007, 11:51 am EST
OK Computer changed music forever. The Arcade Fire have continuously sited it as an influence for making “Funeral.” It stands out as a the prime example of a band comming into maturity and rewriting the rules of music, and subsequently making it OK for others to do it.
Mr. Frank | 2/17/2007, 12:14 pm EST
OK Computer, without a doubt, is the best rock album since Dark Side of The Moon. And what’s more, they never tried to replicate it, they just kept on experimenting with other sounds. Very well too I might I add.
Alfonso Palacios | 2/17/2007, 12:35 pm EST
Nevermind is a great album, but Ok. Computer is much better.
alf | 2/17/2007, 12:49 pm EST
OK computer
Michel | 2/17/2007, 3:57 pm EST
Nevermind was the core and root of next-gen rock music, deny that and you might as well deny you’re human.
Greetz,
me
bekk | 2/17/2007, 6:21 pm EST
KID A god damnit
JP | 2/17/2007, 8:32 pm EST
We’re comparing primal rock and roll with over-produced prog rock. Since I like my rock and roll from the heart, I have to choose “Nevermind”.
I do have a problem with all this Radiohead worship. I used to be a fan of Radiohead. I stopped after “OK Computer”. It’s not because I didn’t get what they were trying to do. It’s that half of the album were just sound collages instead of songs. The worst offender is the criminally over-praised “Paranoid Android”. The band must have listened to all that critical praise that was heaped on OK. Ever since then, they stopped writing songs and just put out one over-produced synth rock album after another.
One more thing, I don’t think it’s right to narrow down the best album of the ’90’s debate with these two album. There were alot of great albums released in the ’90’s. My pick is Lucinda Williams “Car Wheels On A Gravel Road”. This album has great songs, great production and arrangement that compliements the songs, and great from-the-heart singing from Lucinda.
A. | 2/17/2007, 9:49 pm EST
Sales don’t matter to long term reputation. Cliche example: The Velvet Underground (not that I love them as much as every modern day music listener is supposed to, but they sold much less than The Association or Chad and Jeremy. who? that’s right, no one talks about them now).
If anything OK Computer was a little TOO well accepted at the time to truly be revolutionary. For a British band without much in the way of radio-friendly hits in the era when rock had died commercially again (post-Nirvana) to sell 2 million copies in America, even over 10 years, is incredible. Even if OK Computer is “timeless” it’s not like it was understood by only a few at the time.
Nevermind was even more well accepted of course. Is it punk? Yeah, in the same way the Sex Pistols were. if you are one of those people who thinks the Sex Pistols weren’t punk, you don’t really get it. Nevermind is not “indie”, that’s for sure, and neither is Radiohead. The best thing about both of them.
Kicking Michael Jackson off the charts wasn’t THAT much to be proud of. Dangerous has some tracks that are better than msot of Nevermind.
Kicking hair metal off the charts? But who is the “we” that were listening to shitty hair metal before they found Nirvana? “he’s the one who likes all our pretty songs / and he likes to shoot his gun…”? not that all hair metal sucks, actually it’s a lot better than “post-grunge”.
Influence doesn’t make something better or worse.
OK Computer has arguably had almost as much bad influence as Nevermind has, it’s just a bit harder to copy, but that doesn’t keep tons of musicians from trying and doing an embarassing job.
“Complexity” isn’t necessary.
I also have no idea how “mere mortals” created something as “perfect” as OK Computer. Sometimes I think this “perfection” works against it.
Yeah yeah classical music is good but what the **** are you doing commenting on pop albums if your criteria is which ones are most like classical music?? They are differnt forms.
Pop or rock music can be brilliant even if you like it on the first listen (same with classical or any kind of music, of course).
And even if you don’t. It’s going to be different for each person’s taste what requires more listens. It took me longer to get into Nevermind (and The Bends, for that matter) than OK Computer.
“Nevermind is just a Pixies ripoff (kurt said so himself).”
OK Computer is just an Ennio Morricone, Pixies, Miles Davis, Queen, R.E.M., Krzyzstof Penderecki, and DJ Shadow ripoff (Thom said so himself. We won’t get into Pink Floyd).
A. | 2/17/2007, 9:57 pm EST
“OK Computer transcends time, no one would hear it and think “oh this is old.” 50 years from now people will be listening to OK Computer.”
I guarantee you in 50 years people will hear it and think it sounds old.
it’s already happening, or should be, if you want there to be such a thing as rock music in 50 years.
A. | 2/17/2007, 10:07 pm EST
“Nevermind being a cornerstone in the social movement of “grunge””
“grunge” was a social movement !!!!?!?@$
Leon | 2/17/2007, 10:43 pm EST
This is like comparing a wonderful steak to a delicious pasta dish. Both are amazing, but your mood may prefer one over the other at any given time. If I HAD to choose though, it would be Nevermind ONLY because as an album, I have never skipped over any songs on that album, ever. OK Computer, while a genius masterpiece all the way through, does from time to time fall victim to the skip button on such tracks as Subterranean Homesick Alien and Fitter, Happier. Not to say these tracks are filler by any means (they really do add to the feel of the record), but sometimes they bore me. And I’m not some young kid with a limited attention span. I just am making the point in my personal preference, I can play Nevermind all the way through and even have it on repeat a few times (with Endless Nameless included!)
whowantstoknow | 2/18/2007, 12:08 am EST
1. Airbag vs Smells like Teen Spirit: Airbag
2. Paranoid Andriod vs In bloom: Paranoid Android.
3. Subterranean Homesick Alien vs Come as you are: SHA
4. Exit Music(for a Film) vs Breed: Breed
5. Let Down vs Lithium: Lthium
6. Karma Police vs Polly: Karma Police
7. Fitterr Happier vs Territorial Pissings: Fitter Happier
8. Electioneering vs Drain You: Drain you
9. Climbing Up the Walls vs Lounge Act: Lounge Act
10. No Surprises vs Stay Away: No Surprises
11. Lucky vs On a Plain: Lucky
12. The Tourist vs Something in the way: The Tourist
so i guess, OKC is the winner.
mat | 2/18/2007, 1:23 am EST
Thank you Dakota! That was really well-executed. Well-done. I’d agree there, it’s like arguing Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain vs Doolittle. At the end of the day they’re both classics – the difference is minute at best.
Michel | 2/18/2007, 8:56 am EST
another comment: I think OKC influenced more popular music, while Nevermind influenced both pop and rock music. I like OKC, but it gets nowhere near Nevermind in level of pure rock from the heart.
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haha. | 2/18/2007, 12:44 pm EST
ok computer. the production on nevermind is so heinous. Time has shown many of the songs on nevermind to be fluff. GISH is a far better statement from the early nineties. In anycase, ok computer is better by far. this debate is pretty stupid. nevermind isnt even nirvana’s best album. i’m not even sure if ok computer is radiohead’s best album.
richard | 2/18/2007, 2:35 pm EST
I do not understand all of the fighting. Is it not asking for your opinion on who is best? Can your opinion really be wrong? So…for everybody that picked nevermind…you are all right and you are all wrong. For everybody that picked OK computer…you are all right and you are all wrong. I am all right and all wrong.
There…discussion finished, you can close this page now.
Proyax | 2/18/2007, 2:44 pm EST
It seems that the editor of this article has nothing else to do, that do what? exactly, the one thing that assures dragging attention: start a controversy. Boht records are great and classic. Music is made to be heard and to enjoy it. Those who use it for a different purpose…uhm, well.
Lemur | 2/18/2007, 3:14 pm EST
I’ll make this fast by only going back as far as pop culture seems to remember. Do some research because it goes back a LOT further. (By the way, these are NOT the only good bands from these eras, just the ones that are most commonly argued about… as long as you’re only talking about acts with tremendous critical acclaim.)
Beatles The Rolling Stones
Pink Floyd Led Zeppelin
U2 REM
Radiohead Nirvana
It’ll continue. There will be other important bands. And people will still bicker about which genre creating act was better. Maybe you all could try appreciating music in general?
mark | 2/18/2007, 4:54 pm EST
the argument that “if smells like teen spirit never made it big then creep never would have been a success” is just plain stupid. that’s like saying “if thomas edison was never born we all would be sitting in our houses reading by candle light.” someone else might have invented the light bulb or maybe not. we don’t know. same goes for nirvana and radiohead. radiohead might have made it big without nirvana, or maybe not. there is no way to tell.
jonny15 | 2/18/2007, 5:43 pm EST
jonny15
shiezer | 2/18/2007, 11:21 pm EST
okc all the way! nevermind is great but highly overrated. Ok computer is a beautiful flowing masterpiece!
Guillermo Pino | 2/19/2007, 12:00 am EST
well this is a tough question both are GREAT ALBUMS, nevermind chage it all!! in 1991 we were listening to the same heavy metal crap like Guns n roses or motley crue… and then nirvana change everything!!!, OK computer its a master piece!!! but more revolutionary IMO is Nevermind…anyhow i prefer Oasis’s What’s the story…
I am Citizen Insane | 2/19/2007, 12:20 am EST
nirvana is a really crappy punk band. they are a watered down version of all the bands of the early 80s hardocre scene (DK, black flag, tsol, ect, ect)
radiohead on the other hand is ridiculous. pure genious. never gets boring. OKC wins hands down….
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Rock Awesome | 2/19/2007, 2:45 am EST
“Nevermind” as well as the rest of Nirvana’s work is very simply rock. It’s like something that someone who had only been playing for a short while would write. By that I mean that it’s simple and it gets its point across quickly. I think that’s why it got so much acclaim. It captured the emotion that the audience was feeling, and it did so in a very straightforward manner.
OK Computer is a very complicated album. A lot of thought went into putting it together, and a lot of talent too. It’s pretty much understood that Radiohead are/were better musicians than Nirvana, and their work would naturally be more complicated. OK Computer is an album that you have to take some time to like, and the fact that so many people have taken that time to learn to love OK Computer indicates that it is the more influential and important of the two albums.
After all, that’s how musical revolutions happen. Gradually. Radiohead is slowly changing the musical scene (how many radiohead copies are there? not very many.) Nirvana’s success made them pop icons because it was easy to agree with and listen to. Kurt Cobain hated the popularity, and that’s part of the reason he killed himself. When Radiohead was getting superficially popular with “Creep,” they didn’t commit suicide. They went on to produce 3 excellent and inovative albums.
Benjamin | 2/19/2007, 8:28 am EST
ok computer ok computer ok computer
sada | 2/19/2007, 11:51 am EST
rock awesome u r so damn right
zelig | 2/19/2007, 1:37 pm EST
I’m still shocked that David Fricke devoted 1 paragraph to “OK” in his review, and gave it 4 stars, when REM has two 5 star albums from the 90s.
Why did Rolling Stone, even put the two up for comparison when “OK” only got four stars? RS even rated “The Bends” higher on their top 500 albums ranking.
I don’t get it.
Its a very personal thing, rating albums, etc. – my top five from the 90s did not include “Nevermind”, even though I like the album.
My list:
“OK Computer” Radiohead
“The Downward Spiral” NIN
“Endtroducing” DJ Shadow
“Achtung Baby” U2
“The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill”
Miss Hill
But does that mean anything at all?
yo | 2/19/2007, 4:48 pm EST
Cancion animal!
Raul | 2/19/2007, 7:02 pm EST
ok computer
Raquelita | 2/19/2007, 10:58 pm EST
Nderakore! Ok computer toda la vida lo perro!
Drew | 2/20/2007, 12:46 pm EST
Option #2
Nevermind: 3.67
OK Computer: 3.83
Arguing on the internet is useless.
Mdavis | 2/20/2007, 3:31 pm EST
Donovan you are about 38 I think i’m 34 and just about followed your foot steps exactly. I was sick of hair bands in the 80’s didn’t like new wave. Punk was sweet in the 70’s Nirvana just brought it back to the front and became the #1 band in the world… A freakin punk band. And this Grunge word its just some word a business man said and it stuck none of those so called Grunge bands the important ones that were around when Nirvana hit sound nothing alike. So Grunge means nothing to me. Those bands have their own catagories. Just because they didn’t dress up in costumes like Kiss did makes them the same? Never got that. Yes Nirvana came out when I was 19 I had never heard anything so electric in my life. So I search for music look at every genre all the way to the blues. To find greatness. I found a lot to listen too. But my one regret is that I didn’t go see Nirvana when I had the chance.
Radiohead is one of the greatest bands of all time OKC was a huge cd and pretty much marked the end of rock in the 90’s.. And Dookie helped end it. Now everything sounds like mall punk. But 97 was probably the last good year. Aside from the cd’s radiohead has put out since.
Nirvana played like an orgasm
Radiohead plays like a dream
Pick your poison
They are both my top two of the decade and I can’t choose between the two. I just can’t. There are times I want to listen to Nevermind as loud as I can. And Radiohead helps me sleep calmly. Its apples and oranges.
But one thing is for certain. The 00’s suck really bad. Rock is in a really bad place right now.
I’ve been listening to Damien Rice. But I will never stop listening to OKC and Nevermind and I am greatful I was born to see what Nevermind did to the music scene and my adrenalin.
shalom | 2/20/2007, 3:42 pm EST
OK COMPUTER OK COMPUTER OK COMPUTER
Julia Car | 2/20/2007, 3:57 pm EST
Is like asking who`s better between Maradona and Tiger Woods. But if I have to, I`ll chose Ok Computer anyway. And Maradona…
Turbo | 2/20/2007, 5:00 pm EST
To me, this comparison is about contrasting emotions: angst (Nevermind) versus introspection (OKC). Both albums do an excellent job at their intended purpose.
If I am looking for primal rage and catharsis, I am putting on Nevermind. If I am looking to examine my place in the world, OK Computer is the first place I turn.
So which is better? IMO its OK Computer. Here’s how I decided. Each time I listen to it, I find something new. A different song attracts my attention. Listening to Nevermind, I latch onto the same three or four songs.
Maggie | 2/20/2007, 6:41 pm EST
If we were to compare OK Computer vs. IN UTERO, this would be an entirely different discussion. Nevermind is overrated (clearly not Nirvana’s best work), so I would have to go with Radiohead’s best album to date. But as far as the most “influential and essential” album of the 90’s? Well that goes to ‘In Utero’, hands down.
jonnathan | 2/20/2007, 7:52 pm EST
nevermind wins!!! kurt se suicido, thom solo lleva a;os prometiendolo
Kevin Bang | 2/20/2007, 10:03 pm EST
Ok Computer — hands down.
Adam Kesher | 2/21/2007, 3:07 am EST
Hey, which album is better? It doesn´t matter, but OK Computer is like a neverending experience of genres connection, Nevermind “only” significant album. So: Radiohead rulez
From Czech republic
dave | 2/21/2007, 5:08 am EST
The best 5 albums of the 90’s a mon avie:
1. OK Computer
2. The Bends
3. Marchin’ Already (Ocean Colour Scene)
4. Automatic for the People
5. Different Class (Pulp)
I think Kid A does give OK Computer a run for its money, I’m not sure if it’s better or worse, but that was released in 2000 any way.
Radiohead have fantastic songs and are fantastic live, but I think they are best of all at making albums. There will never need to be a best of Radiohead because Ideoteque will never sound as good as it does in Kid A and the same for Exit Music in OK Computer.
///thechris | 2/21/2007, 11:58 am EST
the truth is that even kurt cobain wasn’t truely happy with nevermind. it was too commercial – like rock with a pop edge. In Utero is a much rawer album.
Ok computer is the best.
Dx | 2/21/2007, 1:02 pm EST
OK Computer of course!!
Buda | 2/21/2007, 1:18 pm EST
i choose both
rollingstoned | 2/21/2007, 2:05 pm EST
Neither of these for me.
“Nevermind” is a depressing one – note record. “OK Computer” is a somber bore.
I appreciate them in some resepcts but not in any practical way that i can actually use. To me they ain’t Rock & Roll, sorry -Rock & Roll is a HEDONISTIC music – this is mopey stuff.
For me it’s The La’s one album and Oasis “Definitely Maybe” that defined the 90s. There’s more Rock & Roll spirit in the way Liam Gallagher sneered than in Nirvana’s & Radioheads whole catalogues combined.
Me | 2/21/2007, 4:17 pm EST
Lets put it this way: OK computer the best album ever. no other band in earth did something like this.
carl | 2/21/2007, 5:50 pm EST
im a big fan of both bands. it really boiles down to expresson eventhough thom also has call out high or dry as a pop song and and nirvana hated playing smells like teen spirte. nirvana went out on top. we have to waite and see what becomes of radiohead so for right now its nevermind
Kieran | 2/21/2007, 6:22 pm EST
OK Computer rules.
Go and watch “Meeting People is easy”, its an eye-opener.
Top songs:
1. Paranoid Android
2. Lucky
3. Karma Police
notable mention to “Electioneering” for the upcoming battle in US politics
Dani | 2/21/2007, 10:43 pm EST
Ok Computer =)
*Fani* | 2/21/2007, 11:06 pm EST
Ok Computer
Bangers-n-mash | 2/21/2007, 11:07 pm EST
Hmm…
All I can say is that I still continuously spin Ok Cpu day after day after day, while I actually can’t remember the last time I spun Nevermind (although I have played In Utero and Unplugged in NYC). I guess I have just grown tired of hearing Nevermind. I’m sure one day I will end up spinning it for a month straight again.
These are two different monsters… this reminds me when I have discussions with friends such as
1. Which memeber of Led Zep could be replaceable?
2. Which member of the Who could be replaceable?
3. What’s the best Beatles album?
… this is all pointless
idiots you are | 2/22/2007, 12:34 am EST
Anyone who thinks that anything that Nirvana ever did comes even remotely close to being as good as even the worst of Radiohead’s music is a complete idiot. Nirvana sucked. They happened to be in the right place at the right time. And for that matter so did the hair metal it was replacing. As does Oasis. BIG TIME.
*Fani* | 2/22/2007, 9:19 am EST
After listening intense Nevermind and Ok Computer I really changed my mind… Nevermind is way better. It’s got way more soul
Acoran | 2/22/2007, 2:54 pm EST
Ok Computer!! So far…
Nevermind is great but repetitive…
OK Computer still being the best 90’s album.
aaron | 2/22/2007, 5:36 pm EST
hey, wait a sec…where’s Jeff Buckley in all of this. Thom Yorke has said that he himself was very influenced by Jeff Buckley. And on the subject matter. Radiohead wins; i don’t know if anyone could ever top them. Complex bass lines, samples, intellectual lyrics, and every song not sounding like the other beats Nirvana’s power chords.
rollingstoned | 2/22/2007, 6:55 pm EST
Um, I guess that Oasis crack was directed at me. Look if you don’t think “Definitely Maybe” is a great Rock & Roll record, you probably don’t like Rock & Roll to begin with, so whatever.
You might not like the band – but they made one indisputably great record (maybe 2).
This debate is too US focused – think about it :
“Nevermind” and “OK Computer” – consistently finish behind “Definitely Maybe” in every UK Poll or non-US poll.
You might not agree, but you can’t deny that critics polls and public polls play out that way.
Andrew Kruzyk | 2/22/2007, 8:28 pm EST
Radiohead wins here. It’s great too enjoy both albums, but in my opinion (MY OPINION) Ok Computer was just an overall musically and lyrically great album.
chris | 2/22/2007, 9:40 pm EST
as much as i dislike nirvana, i must give nevermind its credit as being an important album for changing the musical “climate” at the time, bringing a fresh sound to the mainstream, and ushering out the tired hair metal of the eighties. however, pre-nevermind, there were tons of albums who did something similar but pulled it off a hell of a lot better musically(stone roses and surfer rosa, for example). i liked nirvana when i was in middle school [probably] due to its simplicity and rebelliousness. but, to be honest, i look back on it and can’t say that musically it was that good (in utero was better).
OK Computer was and is timeless. it was completely fresh and still is. it’s complex and artsy, which leads some people away, but [in my opinion] music is supposed to be artsy, well-put-together and complex. it might not have “started” a new genre, but it completely revolutionized music, which is a hell of a lot more important. three power chords is not really music. the complexities you find in radiohead’s work (minus pablo honey, of course) is really what music is about. ok computer means something and emotions get attached to it. same just cant be said for nevermind.
not to mention that simply thirty seconds of karma police blows the whole album of nevermind out of the water.
Xophosmitni | 2/22/2007, 10:27 pm EST
Paranoid Android’s enough to spoil thoroughly every album Nirvana ever recorded….I choose Ok Computer…
Nirvana’s music (in spite of the name and the continuous feeling of anger and despear of their songs)is sort of childish and its rebbeliousness is pointless…Radiohead is the real nirvana, the ultimate stage…so I ditch nevermind….
OK COMPUTER OK COMPUTER OK COMPUTER OK COMPUTER OK COMPUTER OK COMPUTER OK COMPUTER OK COMPUTER OK COMPUTER forever!!!!
Marshal Aaron | 2/22/2007, 10:39 pm EST
What the hell are you kooks talking about? Radiohead is good but compared to Nirvana. Not even close. In Bloom, Lithium, Drain You, On a Plain. Yeah it isn’t all trippy or sound like a composer produced it. If you want that go listen to NIN or some other experimental type band. But as far as ROCK and ROLL goes I’m not even sure you can call Radiohead that. This is weird though because this poll shows Radiohead more favored. But how can one argue with Nevermind’s 24million sold vs. Radiohead’s 5million? I guess one way to argue is to consider that NSync sold millions upon millions and they truly suck. Now I’m rambling. Nirvana=better rock music, more influential, less gay.
Open Pick Of The Liffey | 2/23/2007, 2:17 am EST
It’s a shame none of The Heaven’s Gate suicide cult ever got to hear OK Computer. Maybe they wouldn’t be on Haley Bopp right now. It’s a pity-they’re gonna miss the spring sneaker sale at The School Book Depository. Did Nike really sponsor those guys?? Maybe they are missionaries taking their gospel to outer space. Maybe they were tired of waking up and seeing the same old face. Maybe in an interstellar burst, they’ll be back to save the universe. Hopefully they will rid the world of kicking little piggies. Maybe then we won’t feel so let down by everything in life, even baseball, lovers and Ireland…the unholy trinity. Maybe they will sing in harmony, “THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU MESS WITH US.” Maybe they will fill the world with surprises, and The Euchatastrophe will trump concupiscence. Distorted desire remains our favorite cup of tea.. Maybe they will rid the earth of the weeping serial killers, who prefer their picks in the ice, before they call the 911 switchboard operators in Minneapolis. Maybe then Sarah will kill us all with love. Maybe then all us idiots will slow down. The Oxford prophet sings from the forest. The freckled faced heroin girl will rise again. James Joyce and Behan agree-It aint no sin. The Jedi from Sedona will melt like ice at Bull Run. Mr. Clean will desend on The Temple Mount. Maybe then Wesley will scream and shout. Maybe I will catch another trout. Cobain wore the wrong shoes.. That’s why he’s bloody dead. A bullet to the head. Converse will get you to the tomb. Nike will get you to the moon. Is there an exit from this womb?? I wonder what crappy music they listened to. At least the lads and lassies had good taste in shoes. When they laid on their backs in their small beds. To escape the dim voices in their heads. Pity they didn’t own a pair of Keds. Got to be going now to take my meds.
Lucy | 2/23/2007, 4:00 am EST
Nevermind is my favourite. It has soul and balls
CIRE | 2/23/2007, 3:02 pm EST
Nirvana and Radiohead represent such different beacons in the vast sea of 90s alt-rock… but I would argue that OK Computer has transcended its own era while Nevermind now sounds dated and too simpleton in retrospect. Giving both albums a good run, one can re-live that era replete with the angst and turmoil so prevalent and trendy at the time. Nevermind reminds us of our teen-spirited garage days with a rawness thats not only bold, but very real. However, it is OK Computer that bridges the time between then and now, and by virtue of its complexity and ambition, its extraordinary versatility and multi-faceted layering, that allows it to also make passage towards tomorrow as well. Nirvana had a huge hand in defining and shaping the 90s, but Radiohead has changed the face of music timelessly.
Lithium Letdown | 2/23/2007, 10:32 pm EST
Ok…why must people get so overly excited about this. This argument peaked my interest because the 2 albums being discussed are not only my favorite 2 albums of all time, but my 2 favorite bands of all time. Nirvana and Radiohead are 2 totally different animals who have transceded their respected genres. It’s like comparing the beach boys and the beatles. Can’t do it…but both were amazing. Kurdt and Thom, both poured everything into their music, and produced 2 albums that shaped my late teens and early 20’s. I still listen to both albums and couldn’t possible choose one over the other. If you throw in Pavement’s “Wowee Zowie” i’d really be in a quandry. I think I’ll go listen to Blonde on Blonde. My head hurts.
Elaine Miranda. | 2/24/2007, 12:50 pm EST
Nevermind, sure. (:
alf | 2/24/2007, 1:27 pm EST
sencillo: ok computer
Kate | 2/24/2007, 3:58 pm EST
This is like comparing Led Zeppelin to Pink Floyd – one is straight out rock ‘n’ roll (Led Zeppelin/Nirvana), the other is risk-taking experimental stuff (Pink Floyd/Radiohead). It’s not a fair comparison. If you’re comparing Nirvana to something, it should be Soundgarden – you can’t deny the similarities in their music, especially between Heart Shaped Box (Nirvana) and Black Hole Sun (Soundgarden) (personally I prefer Black Hole Sun, though they’re both amazing songs).
Between the Nevermind and OK Computer, I would pick Nevermind personally, as I prefer music you can jump around to – the closest thing you get OK Computer that you can jump around to is Electioneering – but that may be because i’m a very immature 13 year old.
I suppose what I’m saying is that while I prefer Nevermind, I do like OK Computer and I can appreciate that it is an incredible album.
TimedEnd | 2/24/2007, 5:35 pm EST
Two remarkable albums full of astounding music! How on earth can anyone actually committ to one as ‘better’ they both are so fantasticly artful that it is unfare to compare them… comparing is ego’s game of compartmentalization…the real truth is they’re both infinitely #1…whatever people say I am, that’s what I’m not—love under will
renato | 2/24/2007, 5:51 pm EST
a mi me gustan ambas bandas, pero si creo que radiohead es mejor que nirvana y thom yorke mejor que cobain y ok computer fue mas exitoso.
nati_nodoubt | 2/24/2007, 7:02 pm EST
so .. .
OK COMPUTER.
is there any other cd in the world that makes you feel like you re a f*ing person in this f*ing world, living your life as a funny joke? is real, believe me.
EduHunter | 2/24/2007, 10:42 pm EST
Ok Computer !!!… (y)
Kathleen | 2/25/2007, 12:34 pm EST
Awww….come on. Don’t make me pick! OK Computer is one of my favorite albums of all time, but I have to go with Nevermind. Just hafta.
Henrik | 2/25/2007, 12:39 pm EST
Well, hey! Nevermind, without a doubt. I have listen to OK Computer for a long time and I really like it, but when you heard Nevermind for the first time.. Man it was really a moment of grace. No other album has ever given me the same effect when you listen to it. I like Radiohead alot, but all Nirvanas albums are far better than Radioheads albums. Nírvana was and still are magic
Steven | 2/25/2007, 12:42 pm EST
Nevermind. Not an easy choise, but its a better record.
Indie man | 2/25/2007, 12:45 pm EST
Nevermind. Radiohead are a good band, but man, they are boooring
Paul | 2/25/2007, 12:48 pm EST
Nirvana is probably the best band over the last 25 years, NEVERMIND
Herb | 2/25/2007, 12:49 pm EST
Nevermind beats the crap out of Ok Computer. But Nirvanas In Utero is the best album ever.(radiohead is a good band, but they are in another level)
N Murphy | 2/25/2007, 1:18 pm EST
Nirvana, Nevermind
Why are we even debating
Lyric Genius vs Lyric Slur
kelly | 2/25/2007, 3:34 pm EST
ok computer… no comparison. # 9 Climbing up the walls is the best song ever in my opinion
KID A | 2/25/2007, 4:28 pm EST
OK COMPUTER TO EASY!
my name | 2/25/2007, 5:21 pm EST
Kurt Cobain , Nirvana and Nevermind!
Hebes69 | 2/25/2007, 6:40 pm EST
Nevermind was important for so many reasons in the 90’s. Ok Computer’s importance is still being realized. Today it is relivent and influential and this will never change; it trancends time.
Advantage: Radiohead
Mateo | 2/25/2007, 7:25 pm EST
Kurt Cobain is (and was) an overrated songwriter. Radiohead is the greatest band of the modern era. There is no doubt which album reigns supreme.
OK Computer is the best album to come from the 1990s, followed closly by “In the Aeroplane Over the Sea” by Neutral Milk Hotel and “Loveless” by My Bloody Valentine.
In a battle of actual substance vs. moronic emotional rage, substance wins everytime. OK Computer wins without even trying.
Aversion 101 | 2/25/2007, 8:12 pm EST
nevermind,Ok computer. nirvana allthe way. Nevaermind was somthing that can never be repeated,and almost nothing has a chance against it,and if you think so give another listen,on the other hand if you picked Ok computer NEVERMIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. Mathside | 2/25/2007, 10:57 pm EST
Hey if Kurt Cobain was still alive, He’ll probably choose ‘ok computer.’ Over their Nevermind. How Bout lets ask Thom Yorke?
Nevermind was great, but its just plain simple. Ok computer is dificult and deeper.
Radiohead is the most intelligent band ever. Ok computer is one of the greatest albums of all time, greater than nevermind.
David Page | 2/26/2007, 12:04 am EST
Nirvana used to be my favorite band in high school. When my brother gave me his copy of OK computer at the beginning of freshman year of college it honestly changed my entire opinion on music. It is just a question of raw vs. refined. Its great to listen to nirvana but I can sit down and listen to a radiohead album (personally my favorite is Kid A) and see the multi-faceted levels of though on their lyrics. at first it might seem like gibberish, but if you sit down and really listen you can learn some things about what you believe and the world around you. i love listening to radiohead much more than nirvana solely because i feel like if i can listen to radiohead, i can actually kinda sit down and really think about some serious stuff. god i love radiohead, but i do really like nirvana too. any other band and i would have gone with kurt.
GaDo | 2/26/2007, 12:39 am EST
Claramente que el Nevermind es mejor disco que Ok Computer e historicamente Nirvana fue mejor banda de lo que es Radiohead.
Esta demas, Nirvana es la mejor banda de rock de los ultimos 25 años, Cobain fue comparado con Lennon EN VIDA y el ok computer es un muy buen album. Pero cuando escuchas el nevermind es otra cosa, otra sensación.
w w w . n i r v a n a . c l
benwich | 2/26/2007, 1:55 am EST
there’s no question. ok computer.
now, if you asked about ok computer vs. in utero, that would be a different battle all together.
that, i suppose, is a question for another day.
Amadeus | 2/26/2007, 3:39 am EST
I prefer Ok Computer.
Nevermind is an amazing album with 12 great songs, but Ok Computer is ART.
Kate | 2/26/2007, 9:20 am EST
I like both but i will go with nevermind. It quite simply blows you away.
Peter | 2/26/2007, 9:27 am EST
I am going with Nevermind as it contains beauty, rawness, soul and guts.
Nicki | 2/26/2007, 11:01 am EST
Nirvana’s Nevermind!! no one can ever compare to Kurt’s vocals and level of thinking. Radiohead’s ok, just like OK Computer. Yeah Nirvana belongs to the past but its what stays.
MiniMax | 2/26/2007, 11:45 am EST
I am not into Radiohead, except for some song,…so I’dd go for Nevermind for sure! It still is after all the years post the hype a tremendous record where the sound really floats. OK Computer is claimed to be a good record, but I found it too soft and not really my style,…yet.
Trevor | 2/26/2007, 11:53 am EST
Alright… How can you even say that Ok Computer was more influencial than Nevermind. Nevermind is definately way better than Ok Computer. Every song has meaning, even Territorial Pissings (taking over the music of the 80’s basically). Also, there is not one song really that if you showed someone who had a decent knowledge of music, they wouldnt know or know who its by. And, not every song on Ok Computer is good. I actually don’t like the majority of them. Nirvana also influenced more, and still makes kids want to learn how to play music. Dave Grohl was also a way better drummer than Radiohead’s, but that is beside the point. Nevermind was definatly more original and influencial. Nevermind is still changing people, whereas Radiohead- not so much. So, Nevermind.
Pitler | 2/26/2007, 12:16 pm EST
Definitivamente el Nevermind es mucho mejor ya que a mi parecer son 2 estilos de musica completamente diferentes y lo que representan y significaron en su epoca no se puede comparar…. Arriba Nirvana !!!!
grunge is dead | 2/26/2007, 3:56 pm EST
KURT,NIRVANA AND NEVERMIND is GREAT ! ! !
Taylor D | 2/26/2007, 4:17 pm EST
Fuck off!!!!!! Do you people know anything about music. HOw can you compare them to eachother they are both highly respected artist with two different points of view. Obviously people are going to like one more than the other thats just nature.
gojira | 2/26/2007, 8:13 pm EST
Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness. Done.
cheesecrop | 2/26/2007, 8:48 pm EST
It’s really amazing how many people are still writing in over this thing. I have read practically everyone’s comments and have to agree w/ the people who mention My Bloody Valentines “Loveless” album. In some ways it’s actually far better than Nevermind, and although I never heard O.K. Computer MBV’s album is equally as individualistic and unique for it’s own merits.
Missy | 2/27/2007, 12:48 am EST
I loved Nirvana with all I had to love. Dude took a dive off the deep end and killed the love I had taking a piece of my soul with him. I spent numerous years searching for the same love and found only one thing that could replace what Kurt instilled into me which was Radiohead. It is my opinion both bands and both Nevermind and OK Computer reflect the same ideas but musically I would have to say without a doubt OK Computer is a god damnned opera compared to Nevermind. Sorry Kurt don’t mean any disrespect.
Al Goreaviski | 2/27/2007, 6:37 am EST
Let make it simple:
Nevermind:good album.
OK Computer:Art.
If you just wanna listen to some good music then:Nevermind
But OK computer IS A WORK OF ART.
and if you think diffrent then you MUST be DEAF.
Lisa | 2/27/2007, 11:48 am EST
Nevermind is my preference. It is passionate with fantastic tunes.
Ok computer is good but it is incredibly clinical. You end up yearning for some soul and balls.
Some Argentinian Guy | 2/27/2007, 12:32 pm EST
I think there is no doubt that Nevermind was way more influential than OK… But that doesn’t necessarily mean that Nevermind is a better album…Musically speaking, OKC is far better and complex… I agree: OK Computer is a piece of art.
Sean Barton | 2/27/2007, 1:01 pm EST
It’s hard to really compare the two since they are distinctly different. Nevermind allowed a boiling explosion that was just about to crack with bands like Pearl Jam, Soundergarden, Sonic Youth, Mudhoney etc. But what Radiohead with with OK Computer was to take what by that time was a played out, washed up version of nirvana like bands. Radiohead completely took themselves out of that niche with OK Computer. It revolutionized the way I looked at and enjoyed music, and ever since Radiohead has been making constantly changing, mind provoking music. All you need to do is look at the next album Kid A, then the b sides to that session amnesiac, then hail to the theif. All amazing albums.
Radiohead takes the cake
Sean Barton | 2/27/2007, 1:01 pm EST
It’s hard to really compare the two since they are distinctly different. Nevermind allowed a boiling explosion that was just about to crack with bands like Pearl Jam, Soundergarden, Sonic Youth, Mudhoney etc. But what Radiohead with with OK Computer was to take what by that time was a played out, washed up version of nirvana like bands. Radiohead completely took themselves out of that niche with OK Computer. It revolutionized the way I looked at and enjoyed music, and ever since Radiohead has been making constantly changing, mind provoking music. All you need to do is look at the next album Kid A, then the b sides to that session amnesiac, then hail to the theif. All amazing albums.
Radiohead takes the cake
music1, lyrics2. | 2/27/2007, 3:43 pm EST
nevermind out of the reach.
kedakaki yusha | 2/27/2007, 4:42 pm EST
lo mejor radiohead y mas aun el album ok computer
ae | 2/27/2007, 6:04 pm EST
of course its ok computer i mean nirvana is cool but radiohead makes the diference..
ñak anyway is not a VERSUS is more like ok computer wins!!
ae
Olivia | 2/27/2007, 9:07 pm EST
No no no no Radiohead. Nevermind wins without a doubt.
mitchell atkins | 2/27/2007, 10:22 pm EST
nevermind allowed radiohead to become the band that they were and are today, without nevermind radiohead probably wouldn’t have became popular. radiohead is a good band but they are not in the same league as nirvana.
Scott Sepkowicz | 2/28/2007, 12:26 am EST
NIRVANA without a doubt. They changed music forever. Radiohead is good but, i don’t think you can compare anyone to a band that revolutionized music and radically increased the world interest in music in general. I may not be right about the following, but i don’t think Radiohead would have done what they did anyway without Nirvana. Nirvana is, Nirvana. Nothing compares.
donkey or horse | 2/28/2007, 7:09 am EST
Ok Computer wins easy
Andrew | 2/28/2007, 8:51 am EST
Without a doubt Nevermind, it wins easily.
LiSteN | 2/28/2007, 11:14 am EST
nirvana is the fuse with that distorted heavy guitar and crazy drumming. But radiohead is the symbol of the flipside, the creativity in music!
LiSteN | 2/28/2007, 11:21 am EST
Nirvana,the start of a new beginning, the fuse to a new way to look at music. Just put heavy distorted guitar together with crazy drumming crazy lyrics and catchy riffs together youve got a grip on a new generation of music. radiohead is the symbol of complexity and creativity. As far as nirvanas music being the reason for radioheads popularity, i dont think so.I think radiohead is the band that speaks to this generation. And as far as kurt, hes dead. Nirvana is dead! But it still stays with us. Nirvana was the start of something new!
Twelve Tone | 2/28/2007, 2:23 pm EST
OK COMPUTER has stood the test of time. It still gives me chills. Nevermind was great and created a whole new passion an inspiration for me musically but I haven’t really listened to it in 5 yrs.
rollingstoned | 2/28/2007, 4:11 pm EST
I am still baffled why people keep talking about “Nevermind” as being so “important”.
First of all, it wasn’t the start of anything. it was the culmination of music that had exosted for 10 years : Husker Du, the Pixies, the Replacements, Mission of Burma, Naked raygun, etc. and in all honesty it wasn’t even as good as some of its influences.
Are most people posting here just unaware of those bands or what?
Second, it didn’t change anything – look at the radio and look at the charts – Nickelback would have existed with or without Nirvana – unfortunately.
Like I said before, whip out Oasis “Definitely Maybe” or The La’s album and play those next ot “OK Computer” and “Nevermind” and tell me what’s more pleasing music to your ears.
The Oasis and La’s records (both from the 90s) will make you want to have a beer, kiss a girl, laugh, and live.
The Nirvana and Radiohead records, while each have their merits will make you wanna either slice your wrists or contemplate the meaning of existence…….and that, dear friends, just ain’t Rock & Roll.
Not to me anyway.
MAtt W. | 2/28/2007, 6:10 pm EST
Any one who thinks Radiohead has the edge, is lost. I guess its a matter of what your ear is tuned for but nothing since Nevermind, to this day, has come close to reaching the same level of importance or relevence. Although Radiohead are God’s in their own right, they still have to bow down to Nevermind and the influence it had on Generation X. NEvermind gave generation X a meaning and not just a label. And if the two bands met side by side in some alter universe, Thom would say to Kurt, ” Whats your secret.” Thom says that R.E.M and the Pixies were the ones that changed Radiohead forever, but I know that guy was in his car listening to Nevermind with an ugly ass flannel shirt on back in the day. Or that black and white stripped one he used to wear. Drain You alone takes away OK computer. But Radiohead will always have the final say
Kurt Cobain | 2/28/2007, 10:16 pm EST
RADIOHEAD…. off course. It’s imposible to be better than Radiohead.
benny | 3/1/2007, 4:30 am EST
Nirvana, Nevermind, no album has come close since
DayPlayer | 3/1/2007, 9:45 am EST
BOTH bands have revolutionized music.
But this is about which ALBUM do you prefer.
ok computer
I'm at school. | 3/1/2007, 11:22 am EST
I’m a big fan of both of these bands, and I love each album.
But I give Nevermind the edge, that is the best album of the 1990’s.
anry | 3/1/2007, 12:24 pm EST
solo digo….OK COMPUTER….en el todo calza perfectamente..su musica, su letra, todo está en el lugar y momento correcto…..
Nirvana | 3/1/2007, 12:52 pm EST
Nevermind BY FAR
Edgar | 3/1/2007, 4:05 pm EST
OK computer is the best
Thom | 3/1/2007, 5:33 pm EST
Nevermind is my favourite.
acirema | 3/1/2007, 5:52 pm EST
NO HAY NADA QUE ANDAR PREGUNTANDO, SI LUGAR A DUDAS OK COMPUTER ES MUCHO MEJOR, NI SIQUIERA SE PUEDE COMPARAR: HAY UNA DIFERENCIA ABISMAL ENTRE YORKE Y COBAIN, NO HAY NECESIDAD DE ESPECIFICAR QUIEN ESTA ARRIBA.
Cricket | 3/1/2007, 8:47 pm EST
Nirvana es mejor banda, por lo tanto Nevermind es mejor que Ok Computer. Nirvana fue un fenomeno social, cultural y ha tocado mas vidas de que Radiohead que no deja de ser una gran banda.
Nirvana is a better band, that´s why Nevermind is a better album than Ok Computer. Plus Nirvana was a social and cultural icon that touched many more lifes than Radiohead, that is a great band itself.
Hector Heredia | 3/1/2007, 9:12 pm EST
Estoy de acuerdo con Cricket, Nirvana fue una banda que causo una revolucion social y cultural. Ademas toco y cambio millones de vidas. Marco mi vida y la de mi generacion para siempre.
i agree with Cricket, Nirvana was a band that caused a social and cultural revolution. Besides they touched and changed millions of lifes. They forever marked me and my generation´s lifes.
simpleton | 3/1/2007, 11:35 pm EST
Oh well, whatever, nevermind…
Osmond | 3/2/2007, 6:05 am EST
No matter what you radiohead lovers say…..radiohead can never beat nirvana…..nevermind even knocked michael jackson off the charts….bet radiohead cant do that :p OK Computer was a good album….but can never measure up to Nirvana’s Nevermind…if grunge is dead….wouldn’t radiohead be too? :p
i hate humans | 3/2/2007, 11:27 am EST
i hate humans, we always need one better than other, vayanse a la mierda
MilkShack | 3/2/2007, 12:00 pm EST
I love Nirvana and Nevermind more then Radiohead…
B | 3/2/2007, 4:10 pm EST
Nirvana all the way
hugogrohl | 3/2/2007, 8:54 pm EST
simplemente las 2 bandas son lo mas chingon que ha existido en todos los tiempos y los dos discos son los mejores que he escuchado en toda mi vida.
jager307 | 3/2/2007, 9:29 pm EST
Nirvana’s Nevermind by a long shot they are the best!!!
tim | 3/3/2007, 2:16 am EST
ok computer. i love nirvana but they are over-rated! they supposedly brought something new to rock when it needed it most. but wasn’t that what guns n roses were doing at around the same time?! fact is, nevermind is great but nowhere near best album of its year let alone the best of the 90s
joe H | 3/3/2007, 10:43 am EST
nirvana/nevermind is how i cast my vote, without a doubt! Nirvana’s music is just much more relevant. Kurt and the boys were able to express so much with so little. Their music was so succinct yet very emotionally powerful. Radiohead has to bloviate and circumlocute their way through a song…Nirvana was/is pure, raw, and there…in the moment.
Raheem | 3/3/2007, 9:03 pm EST
Nevermind. Somebody said it in an above post. When Nevermind came out, you know Thom Yorke was riding around in a flannel shirt absorbing this album. Nevermind is part of the progression in music that made the way for albums like OK Computer(which is a fantastic album without question). There wouldn’t be one without the other.
Brian | 3/3/2007, 11:35 pm EST
I really really like both albums, and they are both essential to anyone’s collections. As ‘Joe’ pointed out, ‘Achtung Baby’ by U2 is another one that is up there with them, but it was not as influential as ‘Nevermind’ or ‘OK Computer’. I have to respect Nirvana because of how great they sound, and what they did to music. At the same time, I have to respect Radiohead because of just how ridiculously talented they are and how much they poured into each song. If it was a decision based on the opening track, ‘Airbag’ has a slight edge over ‘Smells Like Teen Spirit’ but I still like the albums equally. John Bradley was right with his comment, it’s okay to like both! I don’t see why it needs to be a competition. Two amazing albums. Two amazing bands. God I miss the 90s.
Daryl-Joe (One Man) | 3/4/2007, 4:59 am EST
Nevermind, by a not-even-close margin. I have listened to both of these albums extensively. In fact, I started listening to OK just for the fact that some “Greatest 90’s Albums Lists” were naming it number 2 and even, Gasp!!, number 1! Crazy! Ok will never come close to giving you the feeling you get from hearing just the first 8 seconds of Nevermind let alone the rest of the album. The entire album is an adrenaline rush shot of life! Come as You Are is absolutely amazeing! A perfectly written song. I will say that I feel bad about it being over commercialized in a way that Nirvana dissaproved of. I believe this may be the reason it is believed they are over-rated. Only crazy people would accuse a band who deserve all the credit they received of being over-rated. And for those who say they sold out, why, because Kurt wrote well written songs with hooks? He did that all along as Bleach and In Utero will show you, the only difference is in the production. Or is it the fact that millions of people bought the album? You think they could help it? Not their fault, if you listen to the album you will understand what I mean. And for those of you who beleive it is cliche’ to like Nirvana probably think it is hip to dislike them and therefore become a cliche’ themselves. Have you ever actually listened to Nirvana? NEVERMIND ISN’T THE ONLY AMAZEING THING THEY EVER DID! Bleach is a great debut with some amazeing songs despite its under production (which is kinda cool). School, About a Girl, Negative Creep, and Paper Cuts would all be classics if produced differently and Love Buzz was a introduction to their uncanny ability of remaking covers fantasticly. In Utero is a completely better album that all the members named their best recording. It contains probably two of the greatest tracks ever recorded, Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge on Seattle* and Heart- Shaped Box. I don’t think anybody would argue that they played the greatest unplugged set of anybody ever, with the possible excepting of Alice in Chains. And You Know Your Right only further shows that they were getting better. Remember those of you who bag on Kurt for not being a great guitarist that it was his choice to play like he played. If you watch some of their concerts you will realize that he was a pretty inventive noise guitarist and chose good effects to deliver his sound. I don’t think any of the guys in Radiohead can say they influenced a new generation of guitarists. Remember Kurt was not the only person in the band. He was backed up by two amazeing musicians in their own right. Whose better than Dave Grohl on drums? Krist had the great ability of complementing and delivering Kurts guitar sounds. These two guys served a song better than anybody I can think of with the exception of maybe John Paul Jones and John Bonham, maybe. I will say that Ok is a great album and Airbag is a well arranged track, but Nevermind all the way!!! Also, for those who say that Achtung Baby by U2 is better than both, I am suspious that they might not have grown up in the 90’s at all or just don’t know what they are talking about. *By me name checking the song Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge on Seattle, I hope it will give you who havn’t heard it the incentive to listen to give it a listen. It is absolutely amazeing! Track 5 on In Utero. Enjoy!
ToXXid | 3/4/2007, 11:34 am EST
Nirvanaaaaaa
Bobypin | 3/4/2007, 4:07 pm EST
Most people did not know the real Nirvana. I did. And they can not be compared to Radiohead. NOT AT ALL!!!!!! Kurt would laugh at this for days. Trust me…. I knew him well and I miss him too.
Ana | 3/4/2007, 4:55 pm EST
Since you asked this question I’ll provide an answer: Personally, I don’t care about competition, especially when it comes to art. I see music as a way of expressing our thoughts, feelings …as a way of expressing ourselves with no limitations, as opposed to everyday life where I have to struggle with uniformed rules, norms and conventionalities. Music allows us to be what we truly are. Nevermind has helped me to recognize some of my feelings as well as led me to discover all other wonderful music like Radioheads OK C, etc. So it doesn’t matter who is better, as long as their message is out there, they’ve fulfilled their purpose!
joe | 3/4/2007, 6:17 pm EST
whoever says radiohead is better obviously hasn’t listened to nirvana.
Esteban_STb | 3/5/2007, 12:35 pm EST
Ok Computer, es un clasico, nevermind solo marco una epoca, Ok computer marco la historia de la musica, cambio la persepcion, y la forma de tocar musica… Grande Radiohead!!!
Jake | 3/5/2007, 10:41 pm EST
“Kid A” or “In Utero”
should we start another controversy over that too…i’d rather just listen and enjoy then compare and rate
(i’d have to say nevermind for the sheer fact of Lounge Act)Though i think the best album of the 90’s is “The Downward Spiral”
courtney die | 3/6/2007, 2:06 pm EST
nirvana music on commercials, i can’t believe, hey courtney buy a shotgun and blow yuor insane brain off, you don’t respect anything
Jeff | 3/7/2007, 3:35 pm EST
Nirvana may have had a vast cultural impact, but their musical influence is null. Green River revolutionized grunge years before Nirvana. Mudhoney, Mother Love Bone, and the tribute band Temple of the Dog all released grunge albums before Nirvana. And on top of that, Badmotorfinger and Ten were realized nearly simultaneously with Nevermind. All in all, there’s no much to say on the musical influence of Nevermind.
OK Computer on the other hand has vast influence that is becoming more prevalent with each year’s new generation of music. Those immature Nirvana fans who continue to deny this and instead choose to glorify Cobain really need to do some more research before ignorantly posting. This entire poll is a disgrace to Radiohead.
Brantly M. | 3/7/2007, 4:46 pm EST
” joe | 3/4/2007, 6:17 pm EST
whoever says radiohead is better obviously hasn’t listened to nirvana. ”
Whoever says NIRVANA is better then RADIOHEAD, is obviously retarded…… I have listen to both NIRVANA and RADIOHEAD for years. I know both of them inside and out. No contest: RADIOHEAD.
mike s | 3/7/2007, 5:24 pm EST
ok computer hands down
Lucy | 3/8/2007, 6:07 am EST
Jeff says: “OK Computer on the other hand has vast influence that is becoming more prevalent with each year’s new generation of music.”
Oh yeah rubbish coldplay! Give me a break. Both bands have spawned rubbish bands because guess what, no one can replicate either band. And neither band should be held accountable for crappy bands claiming they were influenced by them. This is a stupid thing to bring up, lets get back to the records….
My vote goes to Nevermind. Its powerful with raw emotion. Stunning.
Marvin | 3/8/2007, 8:07 pm EST
Nirvana’s Nevermind bestest the ok computer with the nevermind with all that nirvana had of much fame on the 90s while radio head was no where to be heard of so my gto is with nirvana’s nevermind that even destroyed the metal era
that how much power nevermind had to go like that and ok computer didnt so like i said im going with
nirvana
Michael M | 3/9/2007, 1:19 pm EST
I would have to say that “In Utero” would have been a better pick for this debate, however I would still pick “Nevermind”. “OK Computer” is not a bad album though…
And who ever said the basslines in Radiohead songs were hard obviously can’t play bass worth shit. (Not the Nirvana is hard to play or anything lol…)
GHOST of Kurt Cobain | 3/9/2007, 2:10 pm EST
I think that OK Computer is the best album than Nevermind because God is Thom Yorke
Andrew Heckler | 3/9/2007, 2:45 pm EST
Comparing Nirvana to Radio and vice-versa is like comparing apples to oranges. Both bands had or have their nitch. Nirvana was more about punkrock/hardcore that meets the beatles as where Radio is a more experimental kinda vibe. Both bands influenced many others and will continue to do so, I am personally not a fan of this kind of comparison in the sense that there are different kinds of music for different moods. For instance I love the raw energy that Nevermind conveys but at the same time I love the experimentation that OK Computer explores. Just listen to the music and stop making this a pissing contest considering that the two albums are so different from one another that a comparison could not do either the justice that they deserve.
Frixior | 3/9/2007, 5:06 pm EST
O.K.computer, nothing more
sagui | 3/9/2007, 11:34 pm EST
ok computer of course
Jonesy | 3/10/2007, 12:35 am EST
I agree with one of the comments below mine. It should have been Naked Raygun over both of these bands. That is the band who should be given its due.
Miguel Plascencia | 3/10/2007, 4:41 am EST
oK computeR
Backmasking | 3/10/2007, 6:30 am EST
There’s some creepy messages on youtube from nirvana’s songs played backwards. F**king genius. I mean I knew Kurt’s songs were cryptic and meaningful, but that’s pretty nuts.
Nevermind all the way.
silencio romero | 3/10/2007, 1:16 pm EST
ambos discos son mis preferidos, son muy buenos… el ok computer influencio mucho en los grupos que le seguirian.. el nevermind.. bueno.. tambien es bueno
silencio romero | 3/10/2007, 1:17 pm EST
si hubieran dejado seguir haciendo musica a cobain tal ves la historia hubiera cambiado, pero me quedo con ok computer
Edwin | 3/10/2007, 4:16 pm EST
Nirvana with out doubt. The debate for greatest 90’s band sould be between Nirvana and Alice In Chains and Nirvana would still win. By the way In Utero is a way better album then Nevermind.
Jack | 3/10/2007, 4:19 pm EST
Dude Nevremind dah
fitox | 3/10/2007, 9:05 pm EST
ok computer porsupuesto
un genial disco que mezcla sonidos
con letras penetrantes y una voz como la de tom que te enfria el alma mi voto es por ok computer
Backwards | 3/11/2007, 5:14 pm EST
Nevermind by Nirvana maybe far more influential than Ok computer, but you can’t forget the MTV factor. MTV in the beggining of the 90’s has given to grunge and to Nirvana a large airplay, that you can’t compare to the OK Computer airplay. Other point is that Nirvana isn’t the beggining of nothing it’s just the end of the american hardcore scene. they were largelly influenced by bands like Black Flag, Husker Du or Minor Threat. They just slowed down the hardcore abrasive sound and gave a more pop sensibility. Make no mistake, Nirvana’s sound was in his best moments amazing. But even In Utero and the Incesticide are better than Nevermind. OK computer is in another level, it’s more prog, more reflective, refined. It’s from another genre.
Well i guess it’s simply better than Nevermind!
Anthony | 3/12/2007, 6:44 pm EST
Nirvana is by far the better band. I liked “In Utero” alittle more than Nevermind but they’re both good albums. Radohead is a great band as well, but to me they are just not up to par with Nirvanas’ song writing. Why couldn’t Kurt have lived! I want to hear more Nirvana records!
Anthony | 3/12/2007, 6:53 pm EST
Jeff-”Green River revolutionized grunge years before Nirvana. Mudhoney, Mother Love Bone, and the tribute band Temple of the Dog all released grunge albums before Nirvana. And on top of that, Badmotorfinger and Ten were realized nearly simultaneously with Nevermind. All in all, there’s no much to say on the musical influence of Nevermind”
I could easily say that the Beatles and Brian Wilson were making experimental rock before Radiohead but that would miss the point like your comment. Nirvana is a far superior band to Radiohead. Alot of Radiohead stuff is long and winded…they do something “different” and even if it sounds like shit people will like it because it’s “experimental”. There is absolutely no contest, Nirvana is the better band. I think once the Mars Volta gets a couple more albums under their belt they will take the place of Radiohead in this contest.
willy | 3/12/2007, 7:50 pm EST
ok computer de una
pedro | 3/13/2007, 2:37 am EST
yo voto por radiohead ok computer es el mejor de los discos en la epoca de la musica alternativa no los tienes q comparar por q radiohead es mucho mejor a nevermind q su musica es tan monotona pd.debes de ser raro para entender a radiohead
Benja | 3/13/2007, 6:30 pm EST
Who are Nirvana?!?
Nacho | 3/13/2007, 7:01 pm EST
definitivamente el ok.computer, radiohead no es mejor banda que nirvana, de hecho no, si pelearan a muerte estas dos bandas seguro radiohead solo tendria una oportunidad en un millon de derrotar a nirvana una vez en su vida y esa seria con el ok computer no creen?, ojo, no son mejores los cabeza de radio que los nirvanos pero el ok. esta por una cancion arriba del nevermind, quiza si el yorke se mata pueda estar a la altura del kurt
William | 3/13/2007, 8:39 pm EST
ok computer!!!
Intraterrestre | 3/14/2007, 1:38 am EST
Ok computer – Radiohead
zedde | 3/14/2007, 2:59 am EST
ok computer
mar | 3/14/2007, 10:40 pm EST
Ok Computer! No way.
Carlo Ayhllón | 3/15/2007, 12:19 am EST
OK COMPUTER en todos los sentidos es el mejor, hay que aceptar que Radiohead es una banda sólida, musical, original e inovadora, y nirvana carece de mucho aunque no estoy diciendo que el Nevermind sea malo, pero hay mucha diferencia es como comparar Mozart con Salieri. JAJA
timmay tetleek | 3/15/2007, 3:31 am EST
nirvana is amazing and you know it
Jotun | 3/15/2007, 9:04 am EST
Nevermind.
Jelmit | 3/16/2007, 2:21 pm EST
Radiohead siempre tendra mi voto, Nirvana no es mal grupo pero no se porque se mato si tenia todo el exito en ese tiempo pero lo mejor y loq ue siempre preferire es Radiohead
shinohead | 3/16/2007, 2:31 pm EST
ok komputer por supuesto, a mi punto de vista creo ke el mejor disko de los 90 en lo ke kabe el genero alternativo sin hacer a un lado el grunge, yo creo ke ok komputer es uno de los mejores o el mejor!! y no es por nada, pero es una exelente obra de arte !!! esos sonidos !!!! !
grunge is dead | 3/16/2007, 3:11 pm EST
NNIIRRVVAANNAA-nevermind! ! !
cheesecrop | 3/16/2007, 4:19 pm EST
You should make a movie about this. You could call it “The Post That Wouldn’t Die”. To the RS people: Is this the posting w/ the most comments ever? If not, what is?
Optimistic | 3/16/2007, 4:44 pm EST
Ok Computer, totalmente… mucho más innovador, más maduro, más complejo…
porque, bueno, las letras de Nirvana serán muy buenas y todo, pero la calidad musical no le llega ni a los talones a la de OK Computer… además más variado, es cosa de escuchar Paranoid Android y ya se ve el nivel del que hablamos…
Henke | 3/16/2007, 7:19 pm EST
Nevermind. A better band, A better album. From a band that has made 2 albums that are better than Nevermind, In Utero and Bleach.
biggerboy | 3/17/2007, 2:59 am EST
ok computer no se puede comparar con nevermind, es ridiculo.
ok computer es una obra de arte unica e incomparable
nevermind no es mas que una buena obra Kitsch
ademas q si hablamos del grunge, hay muchas bandas tan o mas buenas q nirvana:pearl jam, mud honey,sonic youth,soundgarden ETC
en cambio radiohead y ok computer no tienen competencia directa, no existe una manada de bandas haciendo la misma musica y al mismo tiempo q ellos,como pasaba con nirvana, por eso se explica q para compararlos se tenga q recurrir a pink floyd, q es como 20 años anterior.
Macedonian fan | 3/17/2007, 8:03 am EST
Kurt is unforgetable legend.Nevermind should be compared with real legends like the Wall or the Revolver not with OK Computer.Sorry zach but in my opinion all songs from Nevermind are better the OK Computers
PolarBear | 3/17/2007, 3:35 pm EST
ok computer no hay comparacion
Njord | 3/18/2007, 5:46 pm EST
nada que ver son estilos distintos, pero definitivo tiene mejor musica, mejor estilo, ok computer, tiene buenas truenos en su guitarra nevermind pero tiene mas feeling ok computer, that’s right, everytime…!!!
reynold | 3/18/2007, 6:26 pm EST
definitively ok computer!!!!!!!!
Carlos Cjanahuiri | 3/18/2007, 6:28 pm EST
Simplemente y obviamente me quedo con OK COMPUTER, es una obra de arte echo musica, es como una pintura de Da Vinci, desde la primera canción se nota una madurez en todo aspecto.
Radiohead, es la mejor banda de rock.
brian leroy | 3/18/2007, 9:02 pm EST
yo voto por ok computer de radiohead
por que trae unos temas grandiosos
Julio Cesar | 3/18/2007, 11:52 pm EST
Nevermind!!!! no way man… Ok Computer is great .. but Nevermind is incredible. Kurt is God!!
jeffrey | 3/19/2007, 10:55 am EST
ur right edwin,in utero is better way than nevermind,its my favorite nirvana album. everybody’s familiar with songs on nevermind than ok computer in the early 90’s and its too fucking obvious that nevermind’s the best.but theres only one song familar, CREEP.
Ryan | 3/20/2007, 5:40 am EST
nevermind is better, everyone knows that!!
Jonatan Yahbhe Arriola Santos | 3/20/2007, 2:30 pm EST
Pues el mejor disco es el OK COMPUTER, le Nevermind es excelente tambien pero el OK no tiene madres.
Suicide King | 3/20/2007, 7:50 pm EST
Nevermind.
You just can’t compare Nirvan to Radiohead.
Nirvana’s music and Kurt’s lyrics had, as stated before, so much raw, pure energy, guts and balls.
Nirvana has so many followers, so that must mean something. I never hear anybody talk anout Radiohead-again, that says something.
I’m sorry, but to those who say that Mirvana and Kurt were too overrated, you’re a bunch of idiots. Do us all the favor, sit down, listen to Nevermind. Actually listen to the lyrics, and the powerful music.
There’s no comparison.
Nirvana’s Nevermind, by far.
And to the idiots that said Kurt couldn’t play guitar, he was probably one of the most talanted guitar players ever to walk the earth. He was a fucking awsome guitarist.
Nirvana...HA! | 3/21/2007, 7:45 pm EST
I don’t even consider them a real band.
If he hadn’t shot himself they would still be pumping out crap music into obscurity.
Radiohead > *
Cesar - kid | 3/23/2007, 4:37 pm EST
El Ok computer pasa fronteras, se que el Never-mind esta en mis discos favoritos, pero no me satisfizo completamente, pero el OK Computer de Radiohead, se torna a la nueva era y epoca, se siente mucho ese feeling y canciones ruidosas …. Me quedo con el disco de Radiohead
Othoniel Gallegos | 3/23/2007, 6:26 pm EST
Sin dudarlo un solo momento es radiohead con OK COMPUTER, para mi es el mejor dico de todos los tiempos, es unico ese disco, y tambien no se queda atras todos los demas de radiohead
Jd | 3/25/2007, 12:34 am EST
ok ok.. I agree with Nevermind being better, but Kurt wasn’t a guitar God at all!!! Nirvana is my favorite band ever, but Krist, Dave and Kurt made up what I really liked, and not Kurt’s guitar playing. He sucked at solos and most his songs had no difficult parts to play at all. The first songs I learned to play on guitar was Bleach.. the whole album, and I still can’t play a Petrucci’s song. So adoring Kurt is fine, because I do, but he wasn’t an above average guitar player.
Erik (airbag) | 3/27/2007, 1:12 pm EST
Ok Computer the best!!!!
polo (mexico) | 3/27/2007, 11:27 pm EST
RADIOHEAD ONLY RADIOHEAD, FOREVER RADIOHEAD
Luke | 3/28/2007, 1:22 am EST
Ok Computer is mindblowing! Every song is a classic.
On the other hand Nevermind is nowhere near as consistent! Come As You Are and SLTS are the only classics. Sure its 4 stars but Ok Computer is 5 stars on at least 7 songs.
pablo vidal | 3/28/2007, 9:05 am EST
pues no voy a ser menos,es la pura realidad,no ha nada mejor k haya echo el hombre k ese pedazo de disco”OK COMPUTER”,y como algunos comentan ,no tiene madre no viene de nngun ejemplo,es lo mas increible maravilloso,el sonido la musica las voces ,todo!!!!!
Cesar | 3/28/2007, 11:09 pm EST
Ok Computer it’s the best that’s all you wanna know
Shawn | 3/29/2007, 2:01 pm EST
It’s a no brainer. Ok Computer, hands down. I’ll even go as far as to say that The Bends is a better album than Nevermind.
drciruja | 3/29/2007, 5:49 pm EST
Ok Computer, por lejos es el mejor disco de los 90. Nevermind es muy bueno también pero no llega al nivel de la obra maestra de Radiohead q es ok computer. ¿No es Radiohead la mejor banda del planeta a partir de los 90?
lothian | 3/29/2007, 7:23 pm EST
como a alguien se le puede ocurrir comparar a los mediocres de nirvana con la calidad de radiohead, el ok computer es un albun conceptual de genealidad absoluta que se compara solamente con las bandas del rock progresivo de la inglaterra de los 70′ y nirvana solo ha crecido bajo la sombra de un personaje que solamente es recordado y admirado por estar muerto. ni con millones de años de evolucion nirvana podria lograr lo que radiohead tiene y por supuesto llevar acabo un album conceptual y de una sola pieza como radiohead ya posee.
Zed | 3/31/2007, 12:50 am EST
Mmmm…
Paranoid Android or Smell Like Teen Spirit?
Cobain or Yorke?
The grunge itself or the path to musical experimentation?
I’m absolutely sure that OK COMPUTER is so much better than NEVERMIND.
Why?
Well, Yorke don’t use drugs, do not kill himself and later, after the controversy, arise like a new god of the rock. Yorke spoke about solitude, lonelyness, paranoic behavior. Right now, Yorke is a primordial rock star, IN FLESH, and Cobain is a legend. An extraordinary legend. But legend…
shawn & pete | 3/31/2007, 1:43 pm EST
we are two 20 year old kids, making us 5 when nevermind came out. we grew up loving nirvana, and still do love nirvana but then again, where would we ever had heard radiohead in those early years? surely not on popular radio stations, or on MTV. to be honest, i don’t think it would have made a diffrence at the time, nirvanas genre was a vastly more prevelant, and popular sound in our age group.
We’re older now, we listen to music with a diffrent ear. we analyse music not so much as the “Catchiness” but how well is it written.? how well are the instruments being played, is it mindless power chords? or well thought out intricate scales? This in mind, its clear that radiohead is a far more musically inclined band than nirvana.
Nirvana can take a guitar, bass, and drums and make pop/grunge culture hits, whereas radiohead can piece together a 5 person band with an orchestra and make a masterpiece.
taking a look at each album as audiophiles its also clear that OKC is one of the best engineered albums of all time.
everything being said, these two albums should never have been placed together to begin with. nirvana and alice in chains would have been a more logical selection.
Radiohead wins.
J | 3/31/2007, 8:09 pm EST
1. Airbag vs Smells like Teen Spirit (Winner- Smells Like Teen Spirit)
2. Paranoid Andriod vs In bloom (Winner-Paranoid Android)
3. Subterranean Homesick Alien vs Come As You Are (Winner-Subterranean Homesick Alien)
4. Exit Music(for a Film) vs Breed (Winner- Breed)
5. Let Down vs Lithium: (Winner- Let Down)
6. Karma Police vs Polly (Winner-Karma Police)
7. Fitter Happier vs Territorial Pissings (Winner- Territorial Pissings)
8. Electioneering vs Drain You (Winner- Drain You (best song on the album-)
9. Climbing Up the Walls vs Lounge Act (Winner-Climbing Up the Walls)
10. No Surprises vs Stay Away (Winner-No Surprises)
11. Lucky vs On a Plain (Winner- On a Plain)
12. The Tourist vs Something In the Way (Winner- Something in the Way)
It’s a tie!! But OK Computer wins, lol. Seriously, it’s the best album ever made.
roberto noak | 3/31/2007, 10:18 pm EST
ok computer sin duda es mejor de lo que sco nirvana y son mucho mejores csntantes no solo en ok computer sino en todos sus discos ademas an gnado mas premios y reconocimientos mucho mas que nirvan simplemente una sola cancion de radiohead como idioteque es mucho mejor que todos los discos de nirvana espero que vengn pronto a mexico
javi | 3/31/2007, 11:38 pm EST
los dos discos son muy buenos y de partida no son comparables pero si ahi que elegir seria el ok computer tiene una calidad excelente y muy buena musica
Princess Coockie | 4/1/2007, 12:14 pm EST
OK Computer is the best album ever!!
troll | 4/1/2007, 2:20 pm EST
OK COMPUTER
Me. | 4/2/2007, 12:01 pm EST
OK Computer isn’t even Radioheads best album, The Bends is.
Nevermind, hands down.
albert haro | 4/2/2007, 12:05 pm EST
cuando la escena musical se limitaban a bailes de circo y escenarios que trataban de ocultar la falta de talento de ciertos famosos (por que no se les puede llamar artistas) llegan dos grupos que rompieron con esa maldicion, creo que ponerlos a competir entre ellos no es correcto, es mejor simplemente disfrutarlos, los dos con sus cualidades y su liderazgo entre tanta porqueria que hay desde que se dieron cuenta que la musica podria ser un negocio antes que una expresion artistica;
simplemente estamos frente a dos obras de arte que quedaron ya, en la historia. saludos desde guadalajara mexico
jh | 4/3/2007, 3:34 am EST
I enjoy both LP’s but if I were obligated to choose one, I’d have to go with OK Computer which is a personal fave, I can relate more to it, and find it a bit more intricate than Nevermind. I would’nt go as far as to claim that both or one of these albums are the best from this time period, they are indeed very good but not the best, in my opinion the best album of said time period is My Bloody Valentine’s Loveless my personal favorite, which is blasphemy for a Bealtes fan such as myself. But Loveless is just pure euphoria to my ears and mind, another album which i esteem more than OK Computer and Nevermind is The Soft Bulletin
Mefistofeles | 4/3/2007, 11:56 pm EST
i was born in music with nevermind, but i will die only with the greatest, ok?
betosh | 4/4/2007, 4:00 pm EST
creo que me quedo con el ok computer como mejor disco,su contenido es mas completo, complejo y de mayor riqueza sonora
roxi aguilera | 4/4/2007, 11:28 pm EST
sin dudas ok computer…nirvana no me transmitio tantos sentimientos como ese cd de radiohead…no me canso de escucharlo es parte de mi vida…
gracias radiohead por ser la mejor banda del mundo!!!!!
girl_musa | 4/4/2007, 11:37 pm EST
radiohead!!!!!!infinitamente radiohead radiohead y mas radioheadddd
Sieke | 4/6/2007, 1:25 pm EST
Nirvana cambio la historia de la música…Radiohead cambio la forma de hacer música.
Heidi | 4/7/2007, 1:51 am EST
Isn’t a opcion is Just OK Computer, is the best of the 90’s, all the album is amazing with karma police make me almost have an orgasm Radiohead rocks
LuisECM | 4/8/2007, 2:30 am EST
Ok comenzare aclarando que soy un fan a morir de Kurt Cobain, y Nirvana es mi grupo favorito y lo sera x siempre, pq fue el primer gran grupo que escuche…. pero si se trata de ser objetivos reconozco que el Ok Computer es un mejor disco, pero aqui mucha gente se esta llendo por otro lado…. Aca muchos creen que mientras mas complejo sea el disco, es mejor…claro que no!!!, entonces es mejor un disco de Godspeed you black emperor que el Ok Computer???…. a mi gusto No…. Un idiota ahi arriba puso que es mejor el radiohead porque gano mas premios…. Recuerden que la mayoria de los premios se los dan a puro artista malo (grammys a Mary J. Blige????)…por favor…. Y pues cada uno en su momento tuvo su importancia, ademas que sin ellos la musica seria otra cosa definitivamente…Ahi arriba alguien compara los dos discos como sugiere ahi…Ok yo lo hare tambien
Track 1.- Smells Like Teen Spirit
Track 2.- Paranoid Android
Track 3.- Subterranean Homesick Alien
Track 4.- Exit Music (For A Film)
Track 5.- Lithium
Track 6.- Karma Police
Track 7.- Territorial Pissings
Track 8.- Drain You
Track 9.- Lounge Act
Track 10.- No Surprises
Track 11.- Lucky
Track 12.- The Tourist
Radiohead 7, Nirvana 5
El Promedio del Disco
Nevermind
Smells Like Teen Spirit 5
In Bloom 5
Come As You Are 4.5
Breed 3.5
Lithium 5
Polly 4
Territorial Pissings 4
Drain You 4.5
Lounge Act 3.5
Stay Away 3.5
On A Plain 5
Something In The Way 4.5
Nevermind’s Average: 4.3333
Ok Computer
Airbag 4.5
Paranoid Android 5
Subterranean Homesick Alien 5
Exit Music (For A Film) 5
Let Down 4.5
Karma Police 4
Filter Happier 3.5
Electioneering 3.5
Climbing Up The Walls 4
No Surprises 5
Lucky 5
The Tourist 5
Ok Computer’s Average: 4.5
Ganador Otra Vez Radiohead
y Como ya habia dicho que me quedo con Radiohead.
Que me perdone Kurt, que por cierto hoy se cumplen 8 años de que un instalador de alarmas encontro tirado su cuerpo en su casa de Seattle, pq segun se pego un tiro, pero esa es otra historia…
Entonces Gano Radiohead 3-0
POr cierto a Jake The Snake, que no me venga a decir que Odelay es mejor que Nevermind Por favor????….En todo caso si hablamos de otros grandes 90teros ese individuo deberia escuchar Agaetis Byrjun de Sigur Ros (que llego a los EUA en el 2000, pero es de 1999), In tHe Aeroplane Over the Sea de Neutral Milk Hotel, o Grace de Jeff Buckley, Loveless de My Bloody Valentine…esos si son clasicos….
setsune | 4/8/2007, 9:59 pm EST
EL MEJOR PERO ENSERIO EL MEJOR ES RADIOHEAD ES, FUE Y SERA EL MEJOR GRUPO DE TODOS LOS tiempos y que se pudra a quel que diga lo contrario ningun GRUPO ni nirvana, ese pinche grupo no le llega ni a los talones a RADIOHEAD y OK computer y cualquier otro disco sela mata a todos los discos de nirvana asi que no digan estupideces
royer | 4/9/2007, 10:34 pm EST
sin duda radio head es el mejor y no solo el ok si no toda su discografia,o que, es necesario que un vocalista se mate para trasender en el mundo ¿ que ubiera pasado si covain estubiera vivo ? seguiria en ese genero o evolucionaria ¿tendria la misma fuerza con la que empeso? o seria solo un recuerdo con un esperado reencuentro asi que no es posible comparar un simple recuedo a toda una trayectora radio head es el mejor
Kitsch | 4/11/2007, 3:53 pm EST
Ambos discos son una verdadera joya, sin embargo yo creo que musicalmente hablando Ok Computer se lleva por mucho a Nevermid…
En mi particular punto de vista, OK Computer es sin duda el mejor de lo mejor de toda la decada y chanse de algunas otras mas…
pres | 4/11/2007, 11:52 pm EST
ok computer
raul | 4/12/2007, 8:45 am EST
Ok computer es una obra maestra, solo comparable a algunas de Pink Floyd o Yes. Nevermind es un disco que influyo mucho en otras bandas, pero musicalmente no tiene el nivel de OK, ni siquiera de Kid A.
Darkness | 4/12/2007, 11:30 pm EST
y donde jodid voto, o solo es poner el comentario y ahi votar??, bueno pus simon lirica y musicalmente tiene mas el Ok Computer, la neta si esta medio dificil esta encuesta.
saludos.
kid bebe | 4/13/2007, 2:44 pm EST
por supuesto radiohead, la mejor banda de todos los tiempos, ok computer es lo mejor q puede existir en cuanto a musica, hay niveles y radiohead esta muy por encima del ya fallecido nirmamada
radiocabeza | 4/13/2007, 2:54 pm EST
radiohead viva viva son lo maximo
paranoid | 4/15/2007, 2:13 pm EST
ok computer definitivamente, yo puede experimentar como mis emociones se sincronizaban con cada una de las canciones. en absoluto mi admiración por Mr Tchok.
eubaisxn gyevq | 4/18/2007, 4:06 am EST
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cheesecrop | 4/26/2007, 8:05 pm EST
It’s only fitting this poll ended in total gibberish.
mst3kzz | 4/30/2007, 8:45 am EST
When you put in that “most influential of the 90’s” part I’d really have to strongly consider NM over OKC even though to be fair OKC only really had two full years to be influential in the 90’s, but as far as essential goes OKC changed the way I listened to music and was the real ‘gateway’ band for me (in a good way).
Happy Maudlin | 5/1/2007, 12:22 pm EST
Ok Computer.It’s brilliant, masterful and innovative. Nirvana or rather Kurt Cobain, paid lip service to punk rock ethos,while being promoted and regularly praised by Mtv, Rolling Stone, Spin and similar rubbish. Now rock music is subjected to the marketing of a rebellious image presented by Nirvana that was ill-feated in the first place. The lyrics are childish,minimalistic and simple to understand which probably explains it’s wide appeal to American audiences and else where.If it paved the way to alternative rock how come we Linkin Park, Mudvayne and other acts that don’t come close to the artful and experimental aspects of alternative music? In contrast Radiohead continues to evolve and truly does the EXPERIMENTING part that Nirvana only attempted to acheive.Musically,lyrically and conceptually Ok computer is superior.
Rafael venezuel | 5/14/2007, 12:21 am EST
ok nevermind es un buen disco de rock pop buenas melodias y que musa que tenia el mister cobain pero ok computer es una obra de arte por donde se le vea es un albun superior de todo punto de vista mi voto mil veces va para ok computer
taylor m | 5/22/2007, 2:50 pm EST
Ok.i am huge fans of both bands so its coming from an equal opinion….Ok computer a freakin awesome album…props to thom yorke…and ok computer influenced music and changed music….overseas even chris martin said his whole life changed when he heard karma police……But guys lets just face the facts kurt cobain changed music!With nevermind,u cant beat the opening of smells like teen spirit,then the ending with something in the way.
NEVERMIND ALL THE WAY!
Loveless | 6/5/2007, 1:27 pm EST
10 best in the 90’s
My Bloody Valentine – Loveless
Pixies – Doolittle
At the Drive-In – Acrobatic Tenement
Rage Against the Machine – Ratm
Sigur Rós – Agaetis Byrjun
Tool – Aenima
Dummy – Portishead
In Utero – Nirvana
OK Computer – Radiohead
The Bends – Radiohead
Andres | 6/19/2007, 2:13 pm EST
ok computer… aguante radiohead
spinning plates | 6/21/2007, 10:44 pm EST
ok computer es 100 vcs mejor q nevermind, no hay comparacion XP
ok computer es arte, nevermind habra sido un gran disco desde el pumto de vista q marco una epoca, pero hay otras bandas de seattle q hicieron mejores temas, para mi es un disco mas con algunos buenos riffs y estribillos pegadizos, nada mas
el ok es puro sentimiento
Elsa | 6/27/2007, 3:56 am EST
Ok computer, the best part of the 90’s, the best part of my life (musically speaking), for sure.
Demian | 7/12/2007, 4:29 pm EST
Ok Computer de una…nirvana no es malo pero es nada al lado de radiohead
Sonny | 7/24/2007, 5:32 pm EST
Nevermind wins. Ended all that 80’s cheesy shit, i’m thankful for that! And also delayed rap and pop and all that type stuff! Nevermind! Still enjoy Ok Computer, i just personally can enjoy more great classic songs on Nevermind.
Silver Surfer | 8/12/2007, 7:36 pm EST
Love both bands, but Nirvana was three times the band Radiohead could ever hope to be. Nirvana’s B-sides album is easily better than Ok Computer. It seems that Europeans prefer the latter. One word for ya “Bleach.”
Brian Arias | 8/20/2007, 4:54 am EST
Radiohead mil veces Tine un sonido distinto y mas relaista q nirvana nevermind es un buen album pero no compite con OK COMPUTER
David Z | 8/23/2007, 5:56 am EST
Nevermind is one of the best CDs of music ever, but OK computer is a piece of art of our history, it’s like an introducction to the third milenium. I am a big Fan of both Nirvana and Radiohead but i have to say that greenwood kicks Cobain’s dead ass (RIP, sorry about that)
Edwin | 8/29/2007, 11:21 pm EST
Nirvana tiene los suyo en lo que concierne a su estilo, pero Radiohead es de un nivel superior en lo que refiere expresion de arte el ok computer y tambien sus otros albumenes
MR Tchok eres lo maximo
Edwin | 8/29/2007, 11:24 pm EST
OK computer and nude y todo lo que hace esta banda es increible.
Mr Tchok eres lo maximo
kikke A | 9/2/2007, 2:42 am EST
Definitivamente no hay duda,nirvana es lo que es y sera pero musicalmente Radiohead no tiene comparacion alguna…
gabriel | 9/7/2007, 3:54 pm EST
well this is unbelieveble what’s the problem with this fucking world nirvana is crap is garbage sis’nt music radiohead is just the bigest band of the entire world the best ever , how can be nirvana so popular ? OK computer kick the dead ass of kurt
jersey boy | 9/14/2007, 4:24 am EST
Deciding which album is better depends on how you define “better”. In terms of artistic achievement (considering only the musical merits of the album and nothing else), OK Computer is the “better” album. But in terms of influence and historical importance, Nevermind is by far “better”. Nevermind started the alt rock era we still live in. If it weren’t for Nevermind, there would be no OK Computer.
Jason | 9/27/2007, 10:33 am EST
OK Computer is a glorious recording in every sense of the word. Nevermind, however, seemed to shake things up a bit more. I’d never heard anything like that before when it came out– still. They’re both important. OK Computer is a better piece of art; Nevermind is a more revolutionary piece of work. Yes, yes, I know that there were bands doing revolutionary stuff *before* Nebermind, but this is the one that broke through, correct? Someone’s always gotta be on top. Nevermind FTW.
Smash Hit | 10/1/2007, 4:49 am EST
Anybody else think that In Utero was better than either of these two albums? Nevermind was good, but In Utero shows more diversity, maturity, and musical depth. Plus, In Utero features the deeply penetrating, universal primal emotionalism that is characteristic of Cobain’s music, but which is simply not found in Radiohead (despite their best attempts). Then again it’s all about taste. Radiohead represents intellectual, progressive artistry while Nirvana represents populistic, primal, emotionalism. The same dichotomies of preference exist in all forms of art, right? The cerebral but refined passion of Brahms or the fiery intensity of Beethoven? The verbal virtuosity of James Joyce or the universal sentimentality of John Steinbeck? The refined brush of Monet or the primitivism of Gauguin? I think it comes down to this: should art be cerebral or emotional? Probably both, but your album preference is probably based on your slight inclination towards one ideal over the another.
nirvana | 10/8/2007, 9:29 am EST
pienso que todos los estupidos inbeciles que ponen comentarios malos a cerca de nirvana son unos completos idiotas, el recuerdo de KURT existe, su memoria vivira siempre y su musica sera la salvacion del maldito infierno donde habitamos
Bachelor | 10/13/2007, 7:59 pm EST
OKC is a beautiful painting of a nameless faceless world, nevermiong is pure fury and angst driven guitar bashing. I enjoy nirvana as a band more than Radiohead, but OKC is a better album in my opinion.
jorge espina | 11/2/2007, 1:08 pm EST
lo mejor de radiohead es ok compueter
Ok computer | 11/4/2007, 2:56 pm EST
Is the most good CD of the story of the 90s decade, in my opinion.
BATASO | 11/17/2007, 1:25 pm EST
EL MEJOR DISCO DE LOS 90’S ES “NO NEED TO ARGUE” DE THE CRANBERRIES LE GUSTE A QUIEN LE GUSTE
BATASO | 11/17/2007, 1:25 pm EST
EL MEJOR DISCO DE LOS 90’S ES “NO NEED TO ARGUE” DE THE CRANBERRIES LE GUSTE A QUIEN LE GUSTE
handsofftopiccommentswillbedel | 12/27/2007, 8:02 pm EST
ok
computer.
Seir | 12/30/2007, 5:05 pm EST
Ambos discos son buenísimos,
Nevermind = violento
OK Computer = desgarrador
pero q pasa con No need to argue de the cranberries?
o el Homogenic de Björk?
o el Ágætis byrjun, de Sigur rós?
o el Ten de Pearl Jam?
Hay varios discos que han sido olvidados (y menospreciados)
PD | 12/31/2007, 2:43 pm EST
wow….. lotta comments, deserved though
to put things in perspective, neither of these incredibly talented artists created a genre. and simple vs. complex doesn’t make one better over the other, just different approaches. neither does qty. of sales (velvet underground is a perfect example). both Thom and Kurdt penned amazing lyrics, so much going on underneath the surface, so much that required reading into.
I love both bands and their catalogues….. both bands created incredible b-sides and both played amazing in concert. I find comparing them to be lame.
If there is one negative thing to say about them it would be this, Nevermind was over-produced (wish Butch Vig would’ve never touched that album) and Pablo Honey should not exsist.
There is nothing wrong with loving both of these artists equally, they produced and continue to produce amazing art…. I bet Kurdt would have great things to say about Radiohead if he was around and I’m sure that if someone asked Thom what he thought of Nirvana he would have nothing but praise.
beverly butler | 1/1/2008, 2:08 pm EST
I see no difference between Cobain and Axl Rose. Nirvana sounded like a typical band born from the trailer park. Kid Rock could have been the singer. I’m not a huge Radiohead fan, but they at least had showed some thought in the songwriting process. Stop accepting whats handed to you. There is life outside of corporate radio.
Lou Allard | 1/2/2008, 2:06 pm EST
Both are great albums, but I don’t think Nevermind is that revolutionary. Does it really do anything that an old Pixies album doesn’t do? MTV just decided they were more marketable and pushed them on us, creating this “revolution” in music that moved us past all the old ’80s junk. Going by creativity and overall quality, OK Computer has to bet the best choice.
Benjamin Cuthrell | 1/3/2008, 3:20 am EST
Has listening to any song on Nevermind made you cry like “Exit Music (For a Film)” has? Has any song on Nevermind ever made you turn on the lights just one more time like “Climbing Up The Walls” has? Has anything on Nevermind ever come close to wringing every conceivable emotion out of your body the way a complete listen to OK Computer can? For that matter, will you even safely say that Nevermind is perfect 10 years from now? It’s not that I don’t like Nevermind. It once inhabited my cd player for an entire year. It can be picked apart again and again, but to me it’s about a certain time in your life that you eventually grow out of. It’s like a photo album you dust off for a foggy trip down memory lane. OK Computer, as I see it, is about a world of technology that, if you can’t clearly remember a time before computers, you’ll always be a part of.
Anonymous | 1/10/2008, 6:04 am EST
Of course Nevermind and Nirvana. I love Radiohead, and OK Computer is an amazing album. But Nirvana is the better band and Kurt is the better songwriter.
Even Thom would agree with this.
Joey Mooradian | 1/17/2008, 9:35 pm EST
Being a fourteen-year-old, I’m about as close as you can get to the epitome of the listener Nirvana wanted to throw this at. Radiohead, who I have been listening to for years, is one of, if not THE, favorite bands of my life. “Exit Music (For A Film)” reaches into anyone’s heart and grabs at emotion at bay from a lost relationship. “Subterranean Homesick Alien” just brings out this raw feeling that things might not be the way they could be, but you try and you’ll reach home.
Johnny Greenwood is one of my favorite guitar players just because he has the ability to bring out the best of any old Fender or Peavy. Kurt can only dream of being able to do what Thom and Johnny do with just about every song they write: Touching the listener’s soul. All Kurt feels is anger and remorse. Radiohead is about something bigger than itself. It reaches into the outer limits of anyone’s existance and tells them that they can do more than what life has given to them in their existance.
In “Paranoid Android”, the music makes me feel as if the need to be something greater than I am explodes from my body in victorious trek. “When I am king, you will be first against the wall”. This is the best revenge a person can exchange to someone’s being. Radiohead’s hit “Creep” is the existance Nirvana lives in. Recently in an interview, Yorke said he heard “Creep” and didn’t realize who it was until two minutes after it had been playing. This is the example of the evolution they have been going through for ten years. Nirvana will be forever stuck in their teen hatred, while Radiohead goes on to change the face of music when melodious note at a time, one heart at a time, one brain at a time, one person at a time.
-Thank You
me my self and i | 1/20/2008, 9:28 pm EST
nevermind ! is the bible of the new era !!!
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm | 2/19/2008, 1:57 pm EST
nirvana esrock pes radiohead espara niños
herb | 3/19/2008, 1:43 pm EST
oh well whatever
nevermind
Morrissey | 3/20/2008, 12:51 am EST
I don’t know why people think Nirvana has such an influence on music. I must addmit that the band and Kurt had a great impact in music and people but their fans think that just because Kurt liked The Beatles and “he didn’t want to be famous” (lie) he’s one of the greatest lyrics in music (please read the lyrics on “Smells Like…”). Thom represents so much emotion and sadness in his lyric and music. Radiohead’s music it’s more sophisticated than Nirvana’s, many jazz bands has made covers of Radiohead. Also Radiohead never mention Nirvana as one of their inlfuence.
The BEST Alt.Rock bands: The Smiths, R.E.M., Radiohead.
hatter | 4/14/2008, 10:30 pm EST
of course ok computer is the best, is the perfection in a cd
Gabyxomatosis | 5/17/2008, 5:37 pm EST
Nadie niega el echo de que Nirvana es y sera siempre el icono del alternativo y el grounch, sin embargo Radiohead tiene peso y sobre todo ha influenciado a muchas bandas, Kuert Cobain era un maestro pero Thom Yorke es simplemente la perfecciòn echa hombre, hace elevar los màs pesdados espiritus con sus letras desgarradoras y existenciales, no apta para mentes poco ecuanimes. Nevermind marco el inicio de una era del rock, le dio un imno al alternativo, pero Ok computer inovo todo lo antes conocido en un disco màs que cercano a la perfecciòn dandole un nuevo – y mejor- imno al aternativo Paranoid android, como protesta a una sociedad materialista que se preocupa por cosas banas que terminara por encerrarnos….
Nadie niega la grandeza de nirvana, pero en un enfretamiento Radiohead es y sera el ganador indudable..
whtttt | 6/26/2008, 2:48 am EST
i think both are cool
but i choose OK C
Cheesecrop | 7/4/2008, 5:00 pm EST
Well, I finally had a chance to listen to Radioheads ok computer. I can honestly say Nirvana has this beat pretty good.
grunger | 7/6/2008, 3:26 am EST
Guys, this two records are the greates art pieces of the 90’s, but remember, without nevermind there is no Radiohead….
So I vote for NEVERMIND!!!!!!!
Anonymous | 9/7/2008, 4:40 pm EST
OK Computer is for adults
Nevermind is for Teenagers
Fitter Happier:
“no longer afraid of the dark or midday shadows
nothing so ridiculously teenage and desperate,
nothing so childish – at a better pace”
So I’ll go for OK Computer because I’m not a teenager any more.
mark | 10/6/2008, 9:51 am EST
nirvana by FAR wtf radiohead is just to depressive
heartshaped box beats okcomputer…
James | 10/14/2008, 4:29 pm EST
Nirvana by far!
As for Radiohead I think that they are very overrated. I have only ever liked a handful of Radiohead’s songs.
nitto | 10/19/2008, 11:14 pm EST
ok computer.. t envuelve en una atmosfera fuera de este mundo
chuy | 11/6/2008, 4:14 pm EST
OK Computer sin duda es el mejor disco de los 90’s creado por una de las mejores bandas de la historia. Se pueden escuchar las canciones que lo componen una por una y darse cuenta de que no hay ningún error en ellas, de lo grandiosos que son sus detalles y todas te llevan a emociones distintas y sus letras te hacen reflexionar acerca de muchos de los valores de la cultura occidental.
Albert Baena | 11/10/2008, 1:15 pm EST
Ok computer is one of the albums that makes you cry, and gives you a smile at the same time.
So OK COMPUTER.!
Steve | 12/21/2008, 1:43 am EST
OK COMPUTER ALL THE WAY! Far more interesting and complex musically, more intricate and complex songwriting. For god’s sake Paranoid Android changes from 4/4 to 7/8 in the bridge, the textures and layers and melodic content….it doesnt even seem comparable to nirvana.
Phabrik | 2/7/2009, 7:54 pm EST
Ok i LOVE both these bands…but Id have to give it to Nirvana..there tunes changed the FACE of rock music..kurts song writing ability was undeniable. Radiohead is a GREAT band but..nirvana had that RAW power that is at the heart of EVERY musician they just found a way to let it out..
Elliott | 2/27/2009, 2:45 pm EST
Very interesting article, myself and my friend Craig have discussed this before, but i had no idea that it was as widely discussed as this! I can’t stand radiohead, but Craig loves them. Its the same for me and Nirvana. So for me its definately Nirvana, my all time favorite band.
info_kill | 3/29/2009, 9:39 pm EST
Cobain knew his band sucked, so he took the easy way out. Radiohead wins.
Isai | 3/30/2009, 10:11 pm EST
OK Computer!
I think that “The Bends” is better
but.. yeah.-
tgi101 | 7/16/2009, 8:27 pm EST
Honestly it should be The Bends Vs. In Utero.
Anonymous | 7/17/2009, 9:52 pm EST
I love Kurt Cobain and Nirvana… but I have to agree. The lyrics on ‘Nevermind’ are pretty simplistic. Radiohead has more duality and far superior song writing skills.
ak47 | 7/24/2009, 11:57 pm EST
first off all i want 2 say F?¥k you all, nirvana was and still is the best band of all times,without his music today music would sound like shit,and little you all know everysinger have a pieace of kurt in there mind and want 2 be like him, he was the first 2 create grunge music all his music were great may he rest in peace,and 4 you all f¥?k you piss and go and sleep, kurt is past, present,and future. and 4 all u c@ck suckers your wasting time.
nic | 7/28/2009, 11:25 pm EST
In Utero was far better than either of these albums. It was probably the best album of the 90’s and possibly the best album of the last 20 years.
ZZ | 8/29/2009, 10:18 am EST
Nirvana = Power chords, obscure lyrics.
Radiohead = Thought provoking lyrics, intricate guitar work, ambient sounds.
When I was 16, I would of choose Nirvana, as an adult, I choose Radiohead.
Aleksey | 9/1/2009, 1:44 pm EST
I really like both albums, but no doubt that Nirvana is more real, more true, more simple, nirvana like all of us.
So it’s more closer to people. I think that a lot of people don’t like Radiohead because of their complicated sound.
Nirvana made a great music breakthrough with simple accords, that’s it!
Nirvana is a phenomena, real music for real people!
Jordan | 9/17/2009, 11:24 pm EST
I say why choose ? We’re talking about two of the greatest albums of all time from two of the greatest song writers (sorry, meant musical geniuses) of all time. Kurt Cobain and Thom Yorke, how can you choose ? I love them both a lot, but I simply will not throw one under the bus for the other, I’d feel disloyal so I say both. And to the guy that said ‘OK Computer’ led to the obtuseness of Radiohead’s next three albums, let me just say that I found both ‘Kid A’ and ‘In Rainbows’ to be very excellent albums and worthy follow ups to ‘OK Computer’ (’Hail To the Theif’ was ok in my opinion). Also, Coldplay are one of my favorite bands EVER, and Chris Martin is a great songwriter, and melodist, and I find a lot of Radiohead fans to be a bit exclusive of everything else, and a bit prejudist against Coldplay for no good reason other than they like Radiohead better (and have some odd notion that they are trying to rip off Radiohead when the two bands couldn’t be anymore different).Well I love Coldplay so I’m going to go ahead and throw ‘A Rush of Blood to the Head’ in here with ‘Ok Computer’ and ‘Nevermind’. PEACE !

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