(the bammies inspired the grammies)

(oops! i mean the bammies were inspired by the bammies)

Nicely put. Too charitable to the ceremony by half (truly, the omission of “industry circle-jerk” in the list of the Grammys’ systemic is sorely missed!), but a truth crying out for declaration. 2 further questions would be interesting to pursue; why do mainstream music publications continue to preface artist names and their albums in their pages with the qualifier “Grammy-winning” even as the awards’ arbitrary nature and meaninglessness becomes more plain every year? Is it the only way to adhere some gravity to artists whose puff pieces would otherwise elicit shrugs? Are there editors out there with some nostalgic attachment to them? Something to do with money/ad sales etc. of course, but is that really the whole of it? Probably, and I’m just naive. But in all the music mags I’ve worked at, it’s as though just forgoing their mention was beyond consideration, however damning the affiliation (”multi-Grammy-winning artist Christopher Cross”). How have the Oscars retained their august character and the mantle of sober, serious arbiters of a vital art while essentially being, like the Grammys, an intra-industry wankfest, and a wildly negligent one at that (Scorsese, where’s HIS industry wank, huh?)? Actually, two more for you; why does anyone pay attention to the Rock Hall of Fame thingy every year? Besides that Jann’s on the board so RS sort of has to cover it? Because bands that stopped playing together years and years ago reunite to play 5 songs for an audience of the sort of people they generally despise? Honestly, if you want to see the Talking Heads play again, rent Stop Making Sense–chances are slim they’re going to top that performance at a cramped theatre in Cincinatti for rich stokers of star-making machinery. The RRHoF is a Museum, and museums are where they put dead things–be they art or animals.

tv on the radio should win every award that exists in every possible catagory.

i think the problem is the people who are voting aren’t usually the most knowledgeable maybe its the classical and polka musicians that seem to hold more heft than people who are younger and or more hip and in touch with whats “new” i was really insulted when shelby lynne won for best new artist when she had been out for at least most of the 80s and had some minor hits as a country star before reinvinting herself.
the reason that the grammys still hold in peoples credits ala “grammy winning artist” is because there is no other highly visable music awards show that anyone can take seriously cause the rest of them like the ama’s and the billboard music awards and the “world music awards” celebrate who sold the most records.
it would be nice to see some music awards with some credibility show up on television ( i would love for the mercury music prize to get some tv coverage in the states)

Where is TV on the Radio. Wolf like Me was one of the best rock songs in a long time. And Return to Cookie Mountain was far better than the nominated Stadium Arcadium or others.(and this is coming from a big RHCP fan)

Last year The Grammys aired opposite Fox`s American Idol on a Wed. night. According to the Nielsen ratings, American Idol pulled in 28 million viewers, while the Grammys only had 15 million viewers.The Grammys last year even had live performances by U2 and Madonna,and it was the Grammy`s smallest TV audience in at least 11 years,down 2 million viewers from the year before. Seems the viewing public would rather watch amateurs stumble through a song than have to sit through 3 plus hours of self important musical celebrities paying tribute to themselves.

You could happily cut about 45 minutes from the show by invoking a blanket-ban on all artists acceptance speeches that include the painfully insincere “thanking God” waffle.

Some other strange and bizarre grammy wins:

Jethro Tull wins for best metal performance, over Metallica no less.

Quincy Jones’ Back on the Block wins album of the year. Anyone even remember this forgetable album?

1965: Winchester Cathedral wins best rock and roll recording grammy. Apparently Lawrence Welk loved this song. Also bizarre is King of the Road winning for best rock and roll recording the following year. A good song but is it even rock and roll?

Last year, a live version of This Love by Maroon 5 wins for best pop performance for a duo or group. This is the same group that won best new artist the previous year. They have yet to release new material. Heck their one album came out in 2003!

There are many more and perhaps more to come. It looks like Justin T-Lake’s lackluster album is going to win album of the year according to several polls. Any of the other four nominees are more deserving.

And why does the Black Eyed Peas have to get nominated every year?

Gotta take exception with your Marc Cohen diss — just because he’s not on every hipsters list of cool 15 years later doesn’t mean that his debut album and huge hit single “Walking in Memphis” weren’t examples of the best new music of that year. Boyz to Men, Color Me Badd, C+C Music Factory and Seal are the alternatives? And which one of these basic one or two-hit, studio-manufactured (yes, even Seal – thank Trevor Horn) artist SHOULD have won? The fact that the industry took Cohn’s song, made it a hit and then through him away like yesterday’s news shouldn’t come as a shock, but hey – he’s a great songwriter and that music still holds up nicely. Even better than Color Me Badd and C+C Music factory, though I know that’s hard to believe.

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why arnt the artic monkeys nominated for best new artist this year?

i hope green day wins

Favorite Grammy story — Many years ago, Andy Williams, the host of the Grammys (that should tell you something) is trying to negotiate a satellite feed from Africa where Stevie Wonder is performing. Having some technical difficulties with the visuals, Andy calls out in desperation, “Stevie! Stevie! Can you see me?”

Ok, well it was funny at the time.

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And don’t forget when Jethro Tull was nominated for Best Heavy Metal performance a few years back…

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this year, it might be worth watching 1/2 of it, especially if you have TiVo. I know im going to skip about all of the preformances except for the Chili Peppers, and then watch and see the most undeserving people win the grammys for whatever.

I am only watching the Grammys this year for the Chili Peppers and The Police performances. I hate the Grammys otherwise. They are one huge popularity contest, where pretty boys and girls get the awards and those who are dead (cough, Ray Charles in 2005, cough) get the pity award for being dead. If it were a good award show, they would give the awards to the MUSICIANS who are not dead (remember, they are people who actually play intruments well), not to the people who have sold the most records, or look the best on television.
Ropa, i completely agree that TV on the Radio got snubbed. They are better than many bands that are out their today, and it is a shame that the Grammy people nominated “artists” who have no talent whatsoever, like Beyonce, Chris Brown, the Killers, and Lionel Richie for Christ’s sake! It’s disgusting honestly. At least Fall Out Boy and Panic! at the Disco did not get any nominations, because I dont even want to get started on them.
The Grammys are the real enemy! They are killing good music.

Grammy should’ve beens:

Raheem DeVaughn-”Best New Artist”,”Best R&B Album”,”Album Of The Year”(both for “The Love Experience”)

Keyshia Cole-”Record Of The Year”(for “Love”),”Best New Artist”,”Best Female R&B Vocal”,
“Album Of The Year”(for “The Way It Is”)

The Go! Team-”Best Alternative Album”(for “Lightening,Thunder,Strik e!”)

The Gossip-”Record Of The Year”(for “Standing In The Way Of Control”),”Best Alternative Album”(for “Standing In The Way Of Control”)

Why isn’t “The Black Parade” nominated for Best Album of Year, or at least Best Alternative Album of the Year? I mean, Arctic Monkeys are fun, but they’re just that. I don’t even know why I’m going to watch this crap. If they got better music up for competition, more people’d watch!

remember when metallica lost best metal performance to jethro tull? that was a kick in the pants

Do the grammys matter to anyone aside from the artists who win the awards?

I am shocked. First year the Grammy’s decided to almost completly ignore a Bob Dylan album. The two he released prior to his newest got Grammy attention.. what happend to this one? The Grammys are always proof that the big labels have brought music to the shit hole.

i am the same as sophie, i am only watching the grammys this year for U2 and green day’s nomitation. besides that i don’t know and/or have any interest in any one else who was nomititaed.

Led Zeppelin and the Who have won between them a combined zero Grammys, excluding the “lifetime achievement awards”

Pffft! The grammys arent worth the time…except the best alternative category which always keeps me slightly interested (white stripes, sigur ros, beck and radiohead all being nominated for the past few years.) Can we have Muse nominated for something? I feel Black Holes And Revelations was more of a superior album than the Arctic Monkeys’ one.

And yes, TV On The Radio should win some awards, as their two albums have been fantastic to listen to. (I love ‘Staring At The Sun’)

the grammies is a s**t fest, it is pure propoganda that caters to the simple-minded young people who don’t have a clue what music is. The grammy’s ratings have been plummeting dramatically for the past couple of years and the awards needs Michael Jackson sooooo badly, but I’m glad that Michael declined; he is the best and the best shouldn’t be associated with the worst “singers” ever!

Please don’t skip the Duhks’ performance. I don’t know how a band this good got to be on the Grammys, but I’m so happy they’ll be seen by tons of people.

The only reason at all that I will be tuning in this year is for the Lifetime Achievement Award. The Grateful Dead are finally being honored.

It’s all a popularity game.Music doesn’t count anymore.It’s just like high school. Who has the biggest tits,the juciest ass,who sells tickets for Ticketmaster.Were all loses for watching the show!

Among the 1992 new artist nominees, Marc COHN is the only one I wouldn’t be embarrassed to play in front of my friends. Just because you are uninformed, doesn’t make him unworthy.

I for one am watching the grammys- I do every year, despite the often bad performances and political voting. I am angry that the grammys virtually ignores the most important genres of our country– rock and country- while focusing on hip hop and todays version of pop, which is horrid. Gwen stefani was great in no doubt- but come on people: ripping off the sound of music song? get real. And they wonder why album sales are down. At least we wont have to endure another horrid britney spears performance. The Police will rock, carrie underwood and rascal flats duet should be something great since they are both amazing, and are honoring don henly and the eagles. However- I just dont get the grammy voters: how can they ignore carrie for album of the year when she had the top selling country album of the year, and 3rd overall for all genres? She also had number one hits off it already- and another one on the way with Wasted. But I will watch- and pray that the grammy voters do the right thing and give carrie best new artist- as neither james blunt nor corrine bailey rae (virtually unknown) have had anywhere near the kind of year or success carrie has. plus- vocally- she blows them away.

There are major holes in the Grammy Voting process…it’s all a load of crap based on “industry” voting which is to be “unbiased”. And no, it’s not the polka industry folk who hold the majority vote…in fact they hold next to no vote. There is a good article here that looks at the Grammy voting process, breaks it up and analysis it as it’s mentioned on their own site: href=”http://new-music-blog.bl ogspot.com/2007/01/grammy-awar ds-voting-process-is-it.html” target=”_blank”>Grammy Voting Process

Oh, and it’s it’s too bad the Bammies are gone

Not one mention of the real event at this year’s Grammy show, the Police reunion. That’s the only real reason to watch, fuck the rest!

the Grammies are the biggest fucking joke in music-seriously, who gives a shit about any of these people? Except the Police, who GOD FORBID play their instruments, the show tonight will be one big joke. The other day, a lady I work with, (who is not teenie bopper, about 40) said to me “who are The Police??” I about choked her-Cathy P.

Carrie Underwood rocks????? THAT says it all…seriously, if I hear Jesus take the Wheel one more time, I may have to kill. Even Christ told radio to quit playing that piece of dog-poo

That Jethro Tull win was crazy, not only was Metallica nominated (…and Justice for All) but in there with them was Motley Crue’s Dr.Feelgood clearly the two huge rock/heavey albums of that year

Im only watching for two very special words: Police Reunion.

Give John Mayer best album. Please. That’s all I’m saying

Anybody remeber George Michael’s “Faith” winning Album Of The Year over Sting’s “Nothing Like The Sun”? Nuff said.

sonic youth rather ripped for album of the year

Taste of Honey (boogie oogie oogie) as best new artist over Tom Petty somewhere around 1979

marc cohn took a bullet to the head and walked the fuck away. that makes him a genuine badass!

um… you’ve never heard of Marc Cohn? and you write about music professionally?

it might be worth watching if the awards would go to the artist who deserve to win and I don’t see how it was the Dixie Chicks they had there chance and they blew it. here they come crawling back and they get awards for it?

i’d just like to know how the dixie chicks won so many awards-they all should’ve been put under rick ruben’s name an alot of us would b alot less pissed at the grammys….

What kind of a lame blog is this? Writing about music and you don’t even know who Marc Cohn is? He was the best that year. Can’t even spell his name right. Pitiful.

And Toto was a talented group of musicians, who easily (at least arguably) deserved to win that year. Anyway. You got the ball rolling on an interesting discussion. There have been some crazy choices over the years. I just enjoy the performances on the show itself.

sorry. didn’t mean to be so harsh. you did fine in your writing, just coulda dug a little deeper on the Cohn thing.

Oh yes, with the Dixie Chicks winning so many (although a great group) it’s easy to see that politics play too much of a role in the voting process. Even they admitted that it was for “freedom of speech” that they won so many awards. Uh, I thought this was an awards for music, not free speech. That was too obvious and embarassing to watch. They are talented, but c’mon. Hating Bush is the “in” thing, I guess.

I find the grammy bashing funny since Rolling Stone magazine has severly strayed from its true music roots only to cater to College punks, girls gone wild and any hot hooker on the cover. What happend to this magazine??

Category 17

Best Hard Rock Performance
(For solo, duo, group or collaborative performances, with vocals. Singles or Tracks only.)

Crazy B****
Buckcherry
[Eleven Seven Music]

Every Day Is Exactly The Same
Nine Inch Nails
Track from: With Teeth
[nothing/Interscope Records]

Lonely Day
System Of A Down
Track from: Hypnotize
[American/Columbia]

Vicarious
Tool
Track from: 10,000 Days
[Volcano/Zomba Label Group]

Woman
Wolfmother
Track from: Wolfmother
[Modular/Interscop e Records]

Fairly clear isn’t it? Buckcherry = 2nd rate Guns ‘N’ Roses, NIN’s and SOAD tracks arguably the weakest on their respective albums. Wolfmother = 2nd rate Led Zeppelin/Black Sabbath(and on Woman White Stripe) tribute act a la The Darkness without the tongue planted in cheek.

This leaves Tool with Vicarious a 7+ Minute opus about continuted media desensitisation, a virtual call to arms a “wake the fuck up” message. This lyrical bent delivered by a devasting guitar riff, pneumatic drumming, the sexiest bass playing and a breakdown to die for.

Yet this tidy little number was over-looked for a bunch of plagiarists? I’m sorry but I’ll stand by Mike Patton and say “Wolfmother you suck, what year is this? Just stop. Fuck it you’ve got ears, you be the judge”.

I’d like to see a live performance duel Wolfmother vs Tool beting out their tracks to a bunch of unbiased Martians and see who’d they’d award the Grammy to. I understand the shallow nature of these award shows but for fuck’s sake!

Like the Oscars, the Grammys, which currently have 108 categories within more than 20 musical genres of music, are voted upon by peers (voting members of the Academy).

Yes, the Iraq war was botched from the planning stage to the current stage but Bush hating is the “in thing” and it has taken front stage rational decision making. When rational thought has taken back stage to the deciding factors of who is on the forefront of their discipline, in this case art/music, it puts a serious strain on the advancement of that discipline. The Hollywood hegemony needs an overhaul.

um, marc COHN. get a google. holy Jesus, you get paid for this?

One of the crimes of the night: Not seeing Ghostface Killah in the best rap album category for Fishscale. Give me a break, Ludacris beating Ghostface for best rap album of 2006.

Female R&B Vocal Performance, Rap Album, R&B Album, Rap Solo Performance, Rap Performance by a Duo or Group, Rap Song, R&B Performance by a Duo or Group With Vocals, R&B Song. What the hell? Completely unfair. When a metal fan looks for his genre on the Grammy’s, he finds the lonely Metal Performance. This genre has been around over thirty years.

The ONLY time in the history of the Grammys did they get ‘album of the year’ right was for “Sgt. Pepper’s” in 1967.

Oh, and POSSIBLY Clapton’s Unpluugged or Simon/Garfunkel’s Bridge Over Troubled Water/

I’m sorry, but I didn’t even bother. Where they last night?

The Grammies push and perpetuate the death of music. It was nice to see The Chili Peppers and Police, bands with some musicianship, at least bring some level of credibility to the show, only to be brought back to the sesspit of musical depravity head by Carrie Underwood, (Death to American Idol and eveything it stands for) and Rascal Flatts (maunufactered cookie-cutter boyband of “country”)

yo, I cant believe Bob Dylan wasnt nominated for album of the year. Modern Times has been talked about all year. Justin Timberlake? John Mayer? Dixie Chicks? I know he won 2 other wards but that part wasn’t even broadcasted thanks to 2many commercials. I was hopping to see his bobness up on stage accepting awards and kickingA$$ on stage with thunder on the mountain!

I can’t believe the Red Hot Chilli Peppers beat Tom Petty! At least Bob Dylan won one.

Man, the tribute to James Brown by Christina Aguilera was off do chain! So was Chris Brown’s performance!

What do the rest of ya’ll think?

Dylan and Petty should’ve played, should’ve won. I usually hate Xtina, but her performance was impressive- “hardest-working girl in show business?”…. Dixie Chicks deserved it all- that, and most of the Police’s number, made the show for me. But Carrie Underwood is a robot- or over-trained: how many times is she going to change hands when holding the mic? Left, right, left, right.. very distracting- like a weird tick. I’d kick her offa American Idol for that!

Every award U2 has won was spot on

the grammys sucked. all the songs were old. people who like the grammys eat dook and suck munch.

TV on the Radio and Bob dylan.

ludacris for best rap album??…ti getting a grammy???…my humps winning something???…wtf…seriously …wtf…

WTF? The red hot chili peppers? Snow? yuck. yuck. yuck.

The reason why the Grammys are significant is because its the only awared voted on by music professionals. Over 11,000 musicians, producers, songwriters, engineers and vocalists vote. The Grammys are the only place people from every genre come together.

Fuck the grammys! Their are so many bands and other talent that does not get nominated. Because to my knowledge, it is based on sales. And for this, I will not watch to Grammys unless maybe one of my favorite bands were performing. But why would they even have good music. Does anyone agree?

And even if it’s not based on sales, their are still lots of amazing talent that gets over looked.

The Grammys have never been based on sales or airplay. There may be several reasons “your favorite band” isnt nominated. One is that they didnt submit their album. Another is they were nominated in a category not on the tv show, another might be because the album was released outside of the eligibility period.

Not everyone’s “favorite bands” perform or win every year. You might ask “is my favorite band voting in the Grammy’s?” Because if they are not part of the process then they can’t complain about it.

chrisballer you fuckin tbagger stop fuckin ur mom the red hot chilipeppers are fuckin amazing

I agree with Rockn about Toto diserving recognition for their musicianship…except that you got one part wrong: Toto still are a talented group of musicians, not were.

I saw Britney Spears fart in a bag on Mulholland Drive last week! She shaved her head, danced with the Devil and ate dog turds! No WAAAY!

Umm…yeah. Jethro Tull beating Metallica in the metal category was ridiculous, I don’t care how many record execs voted on it. Jethro Tull is not metal. The lead singer plays a flute and they sing about child molestors.

After reading a bucketload of these comments, most of which I totally agree with, the only thing that surprises me is that no one has mentioned the musical group of the year, who got nominated but didn’t win for anything besides “Alternative Album”.
Two words: Gnarls Barkley.

Since Rock has moved permanently to the Ghetto, and no one can play an instrument anymore, just sample and sequence, you see where it has gone. You should have seen the CMA music awards tonight, real singing, rocking guitars, muscianship. Who woulda thunk it.

Chili Peppers should of won album of the Year, dixie chicks album was a piece of crap

The fact that the dixie chicks won all the awards just says something about how f….. up the whole thing is. It had nothing to do with music. Is everything in America just staged?

Did it occur to the Hip Hop/Chilli Pepper loving set that maybe it’s not that the Grammy’s are out of touch with music, but that music is out of touch with talent? The Grammy Awards certainly makes its errors, but more often than not they do things other shows would not…sorry if you were expecting Grammypalooza, or The Mary J. Stefani show…this goes deeper. Where else would 15 minutes of air time be dedicated to Corrine Bailey Rae, John Mayer, and John LEgend. Where else would you see Aguileira pull off a stunnig tribute to James Brown to be shortly followed by an Eagles tribue to be followed by the Chilli Peppers (who, by the way, continue to produce the dullest crap in the music industry. you just like the kilt)

The fact is that the Dixie Chicks, albeit an unfortunate name, are actually very talented musicians and songwriters. So are many modern, alternative artists…so in that respect, yes ,many get passed over that shouldn’t be. However, do we really want the Grammy Awards to turn in to the MTV Music Asskiss awards? PDitty is about as talented as my left knee and Aerosmith might be…not sure, waiting on the coroner…actually dead.

The grammys are truly a waste of recognizing talent. Those who are nominated and win in the biggest categorys are the flavour of the month. THey dont’ take into consideration the talent that rock has. Lately i have noticed that pop and other songs that have been sampled have tekn frotn stage.

I THINK THE GRAMMYS ARE BULLSH*T. THEY ARE MOST DEF “NOT” A REFLECTION OF WHAT IS REALLY TALENT, MORE LIKE PRE-FABRICATED TALENT MADE UP BY THE BIG CORPORATE MACHINE. C’MON MAN, JETHRO TULL BEATING METALLICA?? THE ONLY REASON WHY THEY WON WAS BECAUSE THEY NEVER HAVE HAD THAT MUCH RECOGNITION AND THE OLDER FOGIES MUST HAVE VOTED FOR THEM.I DO BELEIVE IT IS THIER PEERS VOTING HENCE NOT A PUBLIC VOTE OF POPULARITY. I FEEL IT IS STAGED AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

id watch it if thay had from first to last,marilyn manson,a7x,aiden,korn, and slipknot preform on stage 2gether that wold rox on so many levles. but its not gonna happen so im not gonna watch.

Elvis,Beatles,Who,Hendrix,Jani s—how can this award be legit–Salute to the Godfather done too late–he should have seen it

The Grammys is NOT supposed to be the American pop Idol awards, never has been. It recognizes new, pure talent, the way it was recorded, and the sonic fidelity of the work. Sorta like Pissed-off Diddy for not getting a grammy for every breath you take.. Reason.. It was HACK. He didnt write the song The Police did. You cant hook someone elses stuff and expect a grammy for the work that someone else does..

The Grammys are the most significant award show to me. My favorite year was when Evanescence won “Best New Artist” and “Best Rock Performance” for Bring Me to Life. Grammy Awards RULE!!!

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“No one would turn down a chance to win…”

Didn’t Jay-Z refuse to accept a Grammy because DMX wasn’t nominated?