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Would You Go to Jail for This Woman?

2/8/07, 1:50 pm EST

Norah Jones

Scott Hinds has a problem: The 23-year-old dude is the sixth individual from Maine whose dabbling in downloading resulted in an RIAA-led law suit, and he didn’t even get any good music out of it. The five tunes Hinds allegedly snagged are among the most ubiquitous songs on the planet. Does anyone ever again need to hear Norah Jones’ “Don’t Know Why,” or “Fast Car” by Tracy Chapman? How about the insipid faux quirkiness of “What Would You Say” by Dave Matthews? The melodic swells of ’90s radio staple “All Over You” by Live did inspire an unexpected surge of nostalgia but really, Hinds’ only decent pick was NWA’s “Automobile,” which isn’t even a great NWA song. Would you pay hundreds of dollars for a listen? Because it looks like Hinds will. Each illegally procured track comes with a $750 minimum penalty, and that’s before criminal charges enter the equation.

So, if downloading was the last source of music on earth, and you could only score five songs before the Feds knocked down the door, anti-piracy badges flashing, what tracks would you pick? Here are five on our short list.

  • “Visions of Johanna” - Bob Dylan
  • “April Skies” - Jesus and Mary Chain
  • “Juicy” - The Notorious B.I.G.
  • “I Saw Her Standing There” - Beatles
  • “Shoot the Singer” - Pavement

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Lethal_Poison | 3/1/2007, 2:50 pm EST

Big D,

Please do not sit there and act like music downloaders are simply just “updating” their collection (replacing their old formats). On any given day, the top downloads are ALWAYS brand new releases. I dont think Jimi Hendrix or Elvis ever were top downloads.

Its not a matter of 40 year old guy replacing his old “Back in Black” tracks that dont play anymore, its 15 year old kid downloading Beyonces latest single on to their Ipod to avoid paying for it altogether.

In fact, I bet even a majority of the older music dowloaded is being downloaded by the younger generations. Most of the people over 40 years old that I know, barely know how to operate a computer, forget about pirating music.

So you mean to tell me the artists and record companies shouldnt get pissed about this? The declining sales of NEW RELEASES (this is not read as older/classic releases)are directly correllated with the pilferation of pirate sources.

Some of you say “its just because music now is crap”. Was music really any better in 1998? or 2000? No, music hasnt been any good since the mid 90’s, yet for some reason sales of new releases were better in 1998 then 2000, and better in 2000 then 2002, and so forth.

Is it that new music isnt as popular? I think not. Check the download stats for any pop artist in the Billboard top 10, and I will guarantee you, there will be many times more illegal downloads of those songs then legit albums purchased. So its not that people dont like the music, its just that they dont feel like paying for it.

That right there is the bottom line.

Gravdigr_2000 | 2/26/2007, 8:29 am EST

Any five Stevie Ray Vaughan
tunes.

big d | 2/25/2007, 9:02 am EST

If there was a typo then it must have been wrong…….huh?
The point is, what difference does it make if you had a number wrong? The whole point of this is that the artists are being shafted and the industry is trying to pass the problems on to the people that enabled them to make their huge profits in the first place… you, me, and every other person that wants to enjoy the music. The companies make mega profits from other peoples talents and they are trying to blame the public because some people get their music from a new source while they are taking the lions share of the profits so they can live a luxury life and blame the small profits on the consumers not where the major blame lies– in their own pockets.
The way it has always been is “If you have the equipment to acquire the media they cannot stop you from using the media for your own use”. By stopping the people from making and using the download software they are stifling the creative ingenuity of the people to break their programs and get better at making things work. They must, in turn, make better programs to try to stop us and if you really want to think about something, try this.
We had records so the industry came up with 8-tracks tapes as an upgrade, after that the next was cassette tapes, then we went on a ride with three different CD formats and now we are going into Blue-ray and more. It costs us a lot to replace not only our music players but all of our media even if we can copy it for our use. They never even stop to let us get all of our stuff updated until we have to replace it all again. Buying the same music over and over again.
Is that fair to all of us?
I have stacks of records (if I can find a turntable to use them on), I got rid of all the 8-tracks (totally useless now)and most of the cassettes (low quality recording), now we are not even able to access the music without making some executive richer.

Lethal_Poison | 2/22/2007, 3:54 pm EST

vrodhunts,

If you read the whole conversation, you would have realized that the 14million was a typo, which should have been 1.4 million, or 20,000 people * $70 a ticket. If you could read, you probably could have gathered this from simply doing a little math from the the rest of the paragraph (56million * .01= 560k, or exactly what 14k * 40 shows ALSO equals).

So, you are either lazy, illiterate, or both. You make the decision as to which it is.

Tom | 2/22/2007, 1:26 pm EST

How’s THIS for an eclectic bunch?

Happy The Man-”At The Edge Of This Thought”
Yes-”Awaken”
Weathe r Report-”A Remark You Made”
Bruford-”Forever Until Sunday”
Gino Vannelli-”Walter Whitman, Where Are You?”

vrodhunts | 2/22/2007, 12:58 pm EST

Poison, “If you would have read my post correctly, 14k is ONE PERCENT of 14 million”… are you a freakin moron, 140k is 1 percent of 14 million. You see, the basic properties of math say this: 14,000,000 / 100 = 140,000 NOT 14,000. I suggest you go back to elementary school before you continue to embarrass yourself.

Lethal_Poison | 2/22/2007, 11:14 am EST

Wish I could Say,

What is that “fair price” you are willing to pay?

Because there are already several sites, including Itunes, which you can get a large number of songs for 99 cents or less.

Lethal_Poison | 2/22/2007, 11:10 am EST

Faulty Math,

The only artists who see more money from touring are the artists who only have exposure from tours. Even if you made a DIME on 5 million records sold, that is still only slightly less then what a whole 40 city solo tour at 70 bucks a ticket would net you.

The only band looking for money on tour is garage band that got on something like Ozzfest or the Warped Tour, and has sold a colossal 10k CDs out of the trunk of their car (in other words, those “Indie” bands you speak of).

Major acts only go on tour for one reason and one reason alone, and that is to promote their CDs and merchandise.

Not coincidentally, if you check almost any of the top download sites, the most popular music downloads are almost always littered with MTV friendly pop acts, not “indie bands”.

Contrary to what the pirate set would like you to believe, that they are just dowloading “local bands to see what they sound like”, a majority of pirates are simply downloading the latest Young whatever or Beyonce and putting it on their Ipods.

Lethal_Poison | 2/22/2007, 11:02 am EST

Mr/Ms. 2ShareAlot,

If you would have read my post correctly, 14k is ONE PERCENT of 14 million, or about how much Id figure the actual artist would pocket on the deal. Notice how the sum of 14k * 40 shows equals the same EXACT total as 56 million * 1%. This is true because of a basic property of mathematics.

Its best not to make corrections on something until you know what you are talking about yourself. Thanks.

big d | 2/22/2007, 7:41 am EST

I do not know about the rest of you, but I used a couple of different download sites to listen to music and never actually got a good download. There was always some flaw in every song. The sites only gave me a chance to try the music and when I found something I liked, I went and bought it. Now, without being able to sample the music beforehand I have practically stopped buying music because I cannot see $15 up to $70 per CD for music that I do not know if I even like it. The other problem is the fact that you usually only get a CD for one or two songs unless the artist is actually good at what they do. If the artist is only doing their music for the huge profits, they expect to make, they are not really recording artists, they HAVE to make their music out of their love for what they do. If the industry wants to have great artists, they have to give up the practise of stealing all of the profits from their artists themselves, not come after the very people that made the industry able to make that profit.

Wish I Could Say | 2/22/2007, 6:37 am EST

The Music Industry will have to get real before people stop file sharing. No one is going to pay 20 bucks for a horrible cd with 1 or 2 good songs anf the others suck. The logical solution would be to create it so every conceivable song old and new was available, and have a place where you could go in and tell them what songs you wanted on the cd and pay a fair price for that cd. But the industry has their collective heads up the ass so that will never happen.

SwiftSnowmane | 2/22/2007, 6:27 am EST

I would get the entire Rainbow Rising album by Rainbow! Simply my favorite thing in the world!

VThomas | 2/21/2007, 8:34 pm EST

Change scares the record companies.

They vehemently resisted the cassette tape and the VHS tape:
Quincy Jones testified to congress about the “evils” of cassette tapes. How everyone will just make free copies of the music.

A year later Quincy Jones produces the thriller album and it generates MASSIVE sales due of course to the new distribution media called the cassette tape. Hmmmmm?!?!

They vehemently resisted the CD & DVD media:
They said people can make pristine copies of the music and give it away for free. They fought the format tooth and nail. The consumers won! CD sales were largely responsible for fueling the “Golden Years” of record companies. When they were making money hand over fist. The same for DVD. Movie studios quickly realized that DVD sales were quite profitable!

Well here we are again! This time it’s digital.

But wait the IDIOTS have never learned, they hate change so they will fight to keep the old technologies around. I’m willing to bet a major organ in my body that the same RIAA people purchased iPods for their’s kids this Christmas.

HELLO?!?!?

Wake up, consumers will WIN!

Your stupid lawsuits are only pissing off your customers.

robocop | 2/21/2007, 3:12 pm EST

Instead of the music industry suing people and bringing them up on criminal charges for something that virtually everyone else is doing, maybe they should devote their time and energy to discovering ways to exploit this new way of obtaining music and profit from it. They should accept the fact that they will never completely stop music downloading and file sharing. Instead they should embrace it and figure out how to make money from it.

2 share or not | 2/21/2007, 3:03 pm EST

Dear Mister Lethal_Poison,

As I read your post I think you did your math incorctly. Just trying use proper figures. If you say 20,000 people goto a $70 a person show it Does Not equal 14k! It equals 1.4 million. Now if you take your 1.4 million and multiply that 40 shows you will end up with 56 million dollars to pay everyone and you get yours. Now I’m sorry but even at 1% that is $560,000. If they want to bitch about making that amount of money in one year I will definitely invite that artist to pursue another line of work and live in a much smaller home in a less than desirable neighborhood! They need to quit bitching and enjoy their lifestyle and keep doing what they do best.

Faulty math | 2/21/2007, 2:59 pm EST

One of your comments detailed how artists are supposedly making mad money off of CD sales versus touring. Simply not true, it’s exactly the inverse. I did some publishing for a couple of indie acts back in the late 90’s, and I can tell you that the average band sees practically nothing on their sales. Usually about 10 cents per track is set aside for them, and out of that comes rights for the publisher and songwriter, with the remainder being split amongst the band after they pay back their advance from the label for studio time and mastering. In other words, a dollar per album is really hopeful and wishful thinking. Recording artists must go on tour in order to make up this money and actually make some themselves, and must keep producing new stuff to keep the money coming in. Record labels have created a system where they take immense profits and shaft the artists. And as for record companies cutting artistic acts in favor of pop fluff that they know will sell, that has been happening for decades, even before. It’s unavoidable, and has nothing to do with the Napster legacy.

mypanicmycall | 2/21/2007, 2:46 pm EST

f.c.p.r.e.m.i.x. - the fall of troy
drunkship of lanterns - mars volta
alaska - between the buried and me
jesus - brand new
guernica - brand new

some of the finest talent of my era, and i’m not ashamed to say that i love and appreciate the music that my peers make.

Tim | 2/21/2007, 2:25 pm EST

-Built To Spill “I would hurt a fly” or “else” (hard choice)
-My Morning Jacket “The Bear”
-Modest Mouse “Dramamine”
-The Beatles “Tomorrow Never Knows”
-Radiohead “Let Down”

so sad | 2/21/2007, 2:21 pm EST

i cant even give a rough est. of how meny cd’s ive bought & only ended up getting 1 or 2 songs that i liked out of it. why am i paying $10-$20 for a cd that im only going to listen to for those 1 or 2 songs and just a couple times at that! technology changed and an industry died, sorry music biz but it was the same with the steel industry of america.

Jack mehoff | 2/21/2007, 2:09 pm EST

Open question to RIAA.

How many more trash cRAP cd’s can the industry produce? How many times do we need to hear Mother F*** rhymed with every other sentence? Where is the quality of music thats reperesents $20 ?

The reason sales have gone down the toilet is because music is coming from the toilet..so go figure!

Big Mike | 2/21/2007, 2:03 pm EST

The record companys need to get real they will never stop file sharing. this is another way for them to make money. Sue all music loveing people. Yea that is great. What ripoffs.

madscientist | 2/21/2007, 2:01 pm EST

Led Zeppelin - Stairway to Heaven
Bob Dylan - Knocking on heaven’s door (live version)
Janis Joplin - Piece of my heart
Deep Purple - Smoke on the water
Peter Tosh - Johnny be good (live version)

Muck racker | 2/21/2007, 1:51 pm EST

If the RIAA is able to make any and I mean any song available to me that I want then they have a right to stop downloading. A lot of people go to file sharing to find songs that are impossible to find. For example whoever heard of Stonewall Jackson’s Waterloo. I don’t see how it hurts anybody if songs that can’t be found anywhere else are downloaded.

Jack Spratt | 2/21/2007, 1:42 pm EST

Rent CDs/Movies from your local library (for free), rip them to your HD and burn your own copies.

It’s pretty hard for the RIAA to follow up on that one…

Lethal_Poison | 2/21/2007, 1:32 pm EST

Just a few comments on the things people have said

1. Music artists go on tour to promote albums, not the other way around. A much higher profit margin is realized on a cd sale then a tour. In fact, I bet after the venue, promoters, advertising and travel expenses, band + back up dancers, not to mention the record label, and manager take their cut, less then 1% of a total gate for a show goes to the artist. If you do the math on that, for a 20,000 person venue, at 70 bucks a ticket (assuming there are no other artists taking a cut of the gate), that is 14k a show, multiply that by 40 shows, thats only a little better then half a million bucks.

Conversely, say an artist sells 5 million albums, even if they received ONE dollar an album, thats 5 million bucks. In fact, to equivalate the same amount of money at 70 bucks a ticket, 20k a show, 40 shows, the artist would have to keep almost 10% of the total gate to cut even. Most artists can not command even close to these ticket prices for a solo act, and are not popular enough to play that many shows.

2. Very few artists make music for fun. Almost all have the goal of getting a record deal, and making a living performing music. Every time you steal their record, their label gets less, and then they get less, and it becomes less attractive for them to make music for a living. Eventually, they will get a different job completely.

There was actually a recent article in, I believe, Rolling Stone, which talked about how record companies are cutting a bunch of their artists, and have very little money to take chances on the “creative” music you people complain doesnt exist, and are forced to dump all of their money in to sure fire “pop” formats that will be sure entrances in to black ink.

boycot music | 2/21/2007, 1:05 pm EST

The best way to cool the music industry lawsuits is to make it costly for them to continue. Don’t buy any CDs. If everyone stands together for only a couple of months they will lose millions.

Hobo | 2/21/2007, 12:35 pm EST

Get real folks! The music industry is in the doldrums for several reasons. Lack of creativity may or may not be a reason. Personally I think the top 100 songs are crap and I can spend a day flipping through XM or Sirius channels and find nothing to listen to. But it’s been that way for me since 1980.

CD sales are flat because CDs are a lot more durable than previous formats. LPs got scratches and needed to be replaced if you listened to them too often. Same with tapes. The CD format came along and music sales skyrocketed as everybody replaced their LPs with CD. That was twenty years ago and everybody has replaced their music collection so all they’re buying is new stuff. Catalog sales are nonexistant. If Super Audio CD or DVD-audio had taken off we would see another wave of skyrocketing sales as everybody replaced their CDs with the new format. That didn’t happen.

And, yes, downloading mp3 makes stealing music a lot easier. Used to be you would borrow a friend’s LP and copy it onto cassette instead of buying it yourself. But one person’s circle of friends is only so large so there’s a very small number of copies that would be made. And if you tried to make a copy of the copy, the quality degraded fairly rapidly. Today, one person buys an a CD, rips it, posts it online and the whole world has access to a perfect digital copy of the music for free.

And, really, it doesn’t matter how much money the record industry is or isn’t losing because of downloading. The bottom line is that if you download a song without paying for it, you’re stealing. And stealing is wrong. Period.

tom | 2/21/2007, 9:11 am EST

the riaa needs to get a hold of themselves. they’re pissing off the very people they need to rely on. you & me!!! if they sue someone, do they think they’ll ever buy a cd again? i think not! the big problem with sales is not downloading, it’s lack of real art. they only sign cookie cutter pop without much talent, so what do they expect? we need a music cleansing much like the early 90’s had. these record companies need to stop thinking of the bottom line as well. we’re in a new age of technology, so they’ll never have it the way they use to. they’ve been jippin’ the artist for years anyway. most artist get no more than a dollar a cd, & that’s with a good contract. the artist really makes there money through merchandising & concerts. that’s why downloading has never really hurt the artist. also, at 99 cents a song, you might as well buy the cd instead of from sites like itunes.

truthwillout | 2/15/2007, 7:23 pm EST

FACT: Recording Industry revenue has been flat-lined for over 7 years.

Hey, they have to try to blame someone, so why not their fandom?

Solutions/protections are:

1. Use Frostwire (hosted on offshore servers), because, after Riaa vs Grokster, Limewire, eDonkey, and Microsoft ‘windoze’, et al. got ‘tracking, hacking, more back doors, DRM, and blocking’, installed, courtesy the thug lawyers from the RIAA!

2. Run a hardware firewall, like a Linksys router/firewall, with encryption, or, best, http:/ipcop.org

3. ONLY run a LiveCDrom, like http://pclinuxos.com or http://www.simplymepis.org
htt p://livecdlist.com has all 310 of them! These would be safest, installed, run behind an ipcop firewall machine.

4. Only run the above items, to exchange Creative Commons music, Open source files and programs,
home videos, personal creations.

5. Run a wifi router, WEP invoked, because the RIAA doesn’t even want to open up that defense (so far, have dropped all cases when wifi was admitted in the discovery phase!)Any “war driver” can crack your wifi, to DL music and movies.

6. Do as Bill Gates advised, in his interview! “Buy the Music CD and rip it to the hard drive” (also, rent, or, borrow from the library)!

Really funny, that the world’s biggest, most multiply convicted Pirate thief monopolist con-artist, Felon Microsoft, actually has stolen over 400 works, and never really paid fines much above the contractual licensing costs they had agreed to, prior to the thefts and convictions, and losses in civil court cases!

To beat these lawsuits, all you need are a great team of defense lawyers! Even folks who have been sued by the RIAA, and who never owned or used a computer, had to hire some good attorneys!

Zaphod | 2/11/2007, 12:21 pm EST

At 43, my favs are a somewhat nostalgic.

Little Wing- Stevie Ray Vaughn
Norwegian Wood- Beatles
Pink Houses- John Mellencamp
Into the Mystic- Van Morrison
A Change is Gonna Come- Sam Cooke

curefreak | 2/10/2007, 8:15 am EST

I don’t really understand why people download stuff that they have already heard.
most of my stuff is bands i’ve heard about and i want to sample there music (one or two songs) to see if i would like a full album.
i’m also really into rarities that are hard to find where i live.
i think riaa is punishing him for having sheep mentality taste in music.

Detroit Rock City | 2/9/2007, 2:47 pm EST

Heres my 5.
Led Zeppelin- Tangerine
White Stripes- Stop Breaking Down
Alice In Chains- Rain When I Die
The Band- Up On Cripple Creek
Deftones- Bloody Cape

Detroit Rock City | 2/9/2007, 2:44 pm EST

Heres my 5.

Alice in Chains- Rain When I Die
White Stripes- Stop Breaking Down
Led Zeppelin- Tangerine
Blur- Coffee and TV
The Band- Up On Cripple Creek

Looney | 2/9/2007, 12:39 pm EST

Since it’s been asked, I shall explain how NOT to get caught downloading illegally.

First off, don’t share your own songs. It’s much easier to catch people for uploading than for downloading.

Second, use an anonymous proxy server. Or two. It’ll decrease your downloading speed, but it’ll also make you impossible to trace, as such servers don’t keep records of whom they’re relaying data for.

zoomin' boomer | 2/9/2007, 12:37 pm EST

When it comes to antiques like the Beatles, the Stones and so on, get serious. I’ve already owned most classic rock on vinyl, cassette or CD—and they want me to pay for it *again* because the old formats are obsolete? Bite me!

regal mylar | 2/9/2007, 10:00 am EST

“in my tree” - pearl jam
“hello goodbye” - the beatles
“cold irons bound” - bob dylan
“electronic renaissance” - belle and sebastian
“sometimes salvation” - the black crowes

floydfan88 | 2/9/2007, 9:07 am EST

yenrac, shine on you crazy diamond. RIP roger keith “syd” barrett

Mr. Dart | 2/9/2007, 9:01 am EST

“Eight Days A Week” - The Beatles
“Between The Bars” - Elliott Smith
“Black Betty” - Ram Jam
“Dem Bones” - Alice In Chains
“Son Of A Preacher Man” - either Dusty Springfield or Aretha

Ouroboros | 2/9/2007, 8:40 am EST

Obviously I would go for the ones I don’t have yet:
“Heroes” sung in French – David Bowie
“Crying” (first solo live version) – k.d.lang
“Barefoot” (studio version) - k.d.lang
“Misty Circles” (extended 12” mix) – Dead or Alive
“The Only Way is Up” – Yazz

the muffin man | 2/9/2007, 7:32 am EST

no particular order

frank zappa - muffin man

white stripes - ball and biscuit

the doors - riders on the storm

the libertines - likely lads

jeff lewis band - champion jim

qualia | 2/9/2007, 7:28 am EST

“the worst day since yesterday” - flogging molly

“mesecina” - goran bregovic

“start wearing purple” - gogol bordello

“la vie en rose” - louis armstrong

“just one more” - mad caddies

JBuncom | 2/9/2007, 1:57 am EST

The following would warrant my surrender:

1)Human Nature, Michael Jackson
2)Positive Contact, Deltron 3030
3)Sweetest Taboo, Sade
4)E-Pro, Beck
5)It was a good day, Ice Cube
6)Juicy Fruit, Mtume
7)El Manana, The Gorillaz

Zach | 2/8/2007, 11:29 pm EST

Cocaine Blues- Johnny Cash
Hey Joe- Jimi Hendrix
Spirit in the Sky- Norman Greenbaum
Freebird- Lynyrd Skynyrd
Blitzkrieg Bop- Ramones

Hunter | 2/8/2007, 11:14 pm EST

maybe
Can’t Hardly Wait by the Replacements instead of Closer

Hunter | 2/8/2007, 11:11 pm EST

Crow Jane-Skip James
Bopbicity-Miles Davis
Closer-Nine Inch Nails
Redemption Song-Johnny Cash/Joe Strummer
Dancing in the Dark-Bruce Springsteen

me of course | 2/8/2007, 8:46 pm EST

Broke Social Scene - “7/4 (shoreline)”
The Stooges - “I Wanna Be Your Dog”
Gnarls Barkley - “Smiley Faces”
Radiohead - “A Punch Up At A Wedding”
Jefferson Airplane - “White Rabit”

Lobsters | 2/8/2007, 8:03 pm EST

Pretty girls are more important than music!

Johnny | 2/8/2007, 6:58 pm EST

I fought the law - The Clash

defender of enron | 2/8/2007, 6:40 pm EST

tears of a clown smokey robinson & the miracles
strange town the jam
goin’ back neil young
when the deal goes down bob dylan
you only live once the white stripes

James | 2/8/2007, 6:04 pm EST

How do they track you? Can they go into your computer and see what you’ve been doing? What’s the deal?

Oddjob | 2/8/2007, 5:53 pm EST

The reason CD sales are slipping year after year is not because so many people are stealing music, as the RIAA claim: it’s because after the record-breaking peak of the boy band era- when albums were selling in excess of 2 milion copies in their first week- the entertainment industry got greedy. All their marketing dolars are going towards selling the newest cell phones, ringtones, plasma TVs, DVRs, digital cable, portable music players, HD-DVDs and Blu-Rays, all of which are making very big business, which leaves that much less money in their pockets to spend on CDs.

You can’t tell me everyone who illegally downloaded “Don’t Stop Believing” was on their way out the door to buy “Journey’s Greatest Hits” until Napster came around.

Leslie | 2/8/2007, 5:25 pm EST

Visions of Johanna - Bob Dylan

There Is A Light That Never Goes Out - The Smiths

I’m Looking Through You - The Beatles

Going Nowhere - Oasis

Prison Trilogy - Joan Baez

Anonymous | 2/8/2007, 5:24 pm EST

I like how they’re busting on this kid for downloading Norah Jones song. Yet at the same time devote an article to a Timberlake concert; like it was the second coming.

Dino | 2/8/2007, 5:01 pm EST

What a Waster- The LIbertines
Strawberry Fields- The Beatles
Dead Flowers- The Stones
Guns of Brixton-The Clash
Across the Great DIvide-The Band

Yenrac | 2/8/2007, 4:41 pm EST

My 5 are in no particular order:

1) “You Set the Scene” by Love (Best song and finale off of the fantastic Forever Changes album)

2)”Love Story (You and Me)” a Randy Newman song best heard on Harry Nilsson’s brillinat Nilsson sings Newman album. Nilsson is the best singer of the rock generation at least…if not more.

3)”Shangri-La” by the Kinks. They have a lot of classics, but this is my favorite. Fantastic, biting commentary about suburban life, with all the time signatures and complexity of a great rock song! Off of the fantastic Arthur album.

4) “The Spark that Bled” the Flaming Lips. Even though this song steals the piano riff from Harry Nilsson’s version of “Without You”, it’s still a fantastic song, another complex rock song…plus it reminds me of all those times seeing it live with Wayne dripping the blood all over his head and singing with the frog puppet while the crazy atmospheric background screen was going nuts. Off of the Flaming Lips best album “Soft Bulletin”. They also are one of the best ever live bands, alongside the Who and the Talking Heads…

5) “Astronome Domine”. It’s hard leaving a song off this list by my all time favorite band (the Beatles) but I’ve heard their stuff time and time again for what feels like forever and so if I could only pick 5 songs today, I’d take this one as a slight edge. It helps that i hadn’t listened to Piper in at least a year until yesterday, but I also remember just how incredible this song is. Syd was a genius. Off of the fantastic (and at the same time fantastically weird and at parts dated) Pink Floyd’s the Piper at the Gates of Dawn album.

Check these albums above for some of the best albums you’ve likely never heard.

ihateukfans | 2/8/2007, 4:37 pm EST

I wouldn’t listen to a Norah Jones song if someone paid me $750. Unless, she’s naked while she sings it to me.

Catsup | 2/8/2007, 4:15 pm EST

“insipid faux quirkiness”? Please, go get another job. Stop refering to yourself in the collective. Your taste in music is not worth sharing. Stop writing opinion pieces designed to “spark debate”.

Question | 2/8/2007, 4:13 pm EST

How do people get caught? I download from BearShare. Will they be able to trace my downloads?

N | 2/8/2007, 3:53 pm EST

Dylan - Tangles up in Blue
Jesus and Mary Chain - Just Like Honey
The Clash - London Calling
Mission Of Burma - Thats When I Reach for My Revolver
Bob Marley - Redemption Song

N | 2/8/2007, 3:51 pm EST

Dylan - Tangled Up in Blue
Jesus and Mary Chain - Just Like Honey
The Clash - London Calling
Bob Marley - Redemption Song
Mission of Burma - That’s When I Reach for My Revolver

bilo | 2/8/2007, 3:44 pm EST

benmont tench

benmont tench | 2/8/2007, 3:36 pm EST

Believe it, The Spector Afro!

... | 2/8/2007, 3:31 pm EST

yesterday’s news!

J.S. Wildhack | 2/8/2007, 3:21 pm EST

‘Alex Chilton’ by The Replacements
‘There is A Light That Never Goes Out’ by The Smiths
‘Repeater’ by Fugazi
‘Cherub Rock’ by Smashing Pumpkins
‘By The Rivers of Babylon’ by Jimmy Cliff

Kash | 2/8/2007, 3:21 pm EST

If I’m paying $750 for five songs, they better be long.

Tool-Pushit (9:55)

Pink Floyd-Echoes (23:31)

Metallica-…And Justice for All (9:46)

King Crimson-In the Court of the Crimson King (9:25)

The Mars Volta-Cassandra Gemini (31:42)

Sikki Nixx | 2/8/2007, 3:18 pm EST

too fast for love - motley crue

The Spector Afro | 2/8/2007, 3:18 pm EST

I can’t believe that someone else likes Get Real Paid by Beck enough to include on such a list. I thought I was alone on that.

Miss B. | 2/8/2007, 3:13 pm EST

Hey Bulldog- The Beatles
Subterrean Homesick Blues- Bob Dylan
Sympathy For The Devil- The Rolling Stones
See Me, Feel Me- The Who
Going To California- Led Zeppelin

Will | 2/8/2007, 3:12 pm EST

-”Just What I Needed”, The Cars
-”Lola”, The Kinks
-”Save Me”, Queen
-”Sweet Jane”, The Velvet Underground
-An audio file of “The Joy of Sex” book read aloud in Chinese: only so I can see the expressions on everyone’s faces as “… the hell…?”

Santa | 2/8/2007, 3:11 pm EST

Ludicrous: Going after some kid, when they should be going after the CD-R companies and the software companies. Sad! Kinda like getting a ticket for speeding! If you are only able to drive 70 MPH on the expressway, why do they make cars that typically can go at least 110???? We are all sheep!

Greg Ferguson | 2/8/2007, 3:03 pm EST

What a snarkily insipid premise for an article, less interested in opening a dialogue about music and art than in calling attention to the writer’s status as a venerable vanguard of taste. Add a white stain to Norah’s mouth and the writer’s no different than Perez Hilton. Barf.

Banjo | 2/8/2007, 2:48 pm EST

Hey Joe - Jimi Hendrix
The Weight - The Band
You Never Give Me Your Money - The Beatles
Dock of the Bay - Otis Redding
Blue Monday - Fats Domino (about 30 years before new order for anyone who’s wondering)

benmont tench | 2/8/2007, 2:47 pm EST

1. White Stripes - Hypnotise
2. Arctic Monkeys-A Certain Romance
3. Beck -Get Read Paid
4. Blondie-Will Anything Happen?
5. Liz Phair - Stratford-On-Guy

PimpPosseGoldenTooth | 2/8/2007, 2:46 pm EST

…and yes, I would certainly go to jail for Norah Jones, if the two of us were sitting all alone in her bedroom, and she looked at me like that..

J | 2/8/2007, 2:43 pm EST

I can’t believe there are people who have the job to bust some other people for downloading songs. It’s not stealing. It’s SHARING!! :)

PimpPosseGoldenTooth | 2/8/2007, 2:42 pm EST

…but sheesh, $750 for a burnt out DMB cords-n-flannel tune from the 90’s?

PimpPosseGoldenTooth | 2/8/2007, 2:39 pm EST

Lobsters is right - Norah is totally fly, in soft, cuddly kind of way.

Easy answer: hard-to-find mixes of fav. tracks, for instance…
Default - Deny (Rick Parashar Mix)
Michael Jackson - Smooth Criminal (A Capella)
…or, of course, the studio leaks, or unreleased tracks that never made it to an album…

Anonymous | 2/8/2007, 2:36 pm EST

“Blackbird” - Beatles
“Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters” - Elton John
“Live & Die in L.A.” - 2Pac
“I Don’t Trust Myself (with Loving You)” - John Mayer

J | 2/8/2007, 2:35 pm EST

“The King of Carrot Flowers Parts 2 and 3″- Neutral Milk Hotel

“Idiot Wind”- Bob Dylan

“Paranoid Android”- Radiohead

“Jesus, ect.”- Wilco

“Naive Melody (This Must Be the Place)”- Talking Heads

jill hives | 2/8/2007, 2:27 pm EST

sheesh, you were pretty harsh on that poor kid.
anyway, i would choose five songs i’ve never heard of before, and then masturbate.

Lonnie | 2/8/2007, 2:23 pm EST

we touched ourselves in prison over that song

SoulMonkey | 2/8/2007, 2:18 pm EST

Cymbaline Pink Floyd
Shot of Love Bob Dylan
Coming Down Again Rolling Stones
Home At Last Steely Dan
Tomorrow Never Knows The Beatles

Lobsters | 2/8/2007, 2:04 pm EST

Yeah, but Norah Jones is really cute. I’m going to go buy all her CDs and put pictures of her all over the walls. I gotta do something to get over that Bai Ling bitch. She’s driving me to drink. How did this ever happen to me?

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