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Townshend Takes Deep Breath, Has a Really Good Point?

1/12/07, 10:30 am EST

Pete TownshendPete Townshend is an impassioned person. This much we know. Last year, for example, he claimed to have started a “public row” with Roger Daltrey in order to distract the masses from poor sales of the band’s for-charity podcasts. And that’s just the first example of hyper-articulate zaniness we could think of. So when we initially saw the report that the legendary rocker had gone off about new rock music being more “gentle” we almost misread it as merely the opinion of the day.

“I think rock music is about to throw off some of its testosterone-driven defiance,” the rocker wrote on his Web site. “Wherever I look today I see younger musicians demanding a new level of intimacy from their audience. This is not entirely about protest, rather about music performed gently that expresses a single idea … even anger is delivered gently.”

Townshend went on to write that’s he’s not certain where this trend comes from and implied that perhaps its source was in the current political climate. We’re not going there, but we do think this idea of the new generation of artists writing “powerfully gentle” music and demanding more intimacy from their fans is fascinating. Do you think it’s true? And if so, why is it happening?


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boo boo | 1/12/2007, 10:54 am EST

i knew pete was deaf but is he blind as well?
most music has sucked nuts for years now!

btw: “his head looks like some shaved monkey nuts”!!

jeff | 1/12/2007, 10:55 am EST

?

Mike | 1/12/2007, 10:58 am EST

Pete Townshend is probably the most brilliant songwriter in history, and on top of that one fuckin hell of a guitar player. I think his idea of artists writing powerfullly gentle music is true, however with his new album I would classify himself as one of those modern artists doing the same… rock on Pete

Jesus... | 1/12/2007, 10:58 am EST

It’s a proven fact that testosterone levels in males has dropped dramatically over the past 2 decades – Why? I don’t know…

But since there’s so many horrible emo bands today… I’m not sure wtf he’s talking about? There’s more screaming than ever.

taint | 1/12/2007, 11:01 am EST

boo boo,

i hope you know you just cursed yourself with baldness.

cueball!

jb | 1/12/2007, 11:06 am EST

yeah i think a perfect example is My Morning Jackets album Z. People seem to be enamoured with the passion and feel of this record….but hey with an album opening like wordless chorus who wouldn’t be moved and immediatley feel more intimate with the album.

kicks | 1/12/2007, 11:09 am EST

hes right and its because we have nothing to be angry about and for what we should be angry about it has already happend in the past, so naturally as a generation we have become more inquisitive rather than just responing to events with frustration and confusion. he brings up a good point and as for those stupid emo bands, well this theory just proves how stupid they really are. i think he is referring alot more to british bands anyway so emo thrash bands have nothing to do with it.

Mike | 1/12/2007, 11:15 am EST

he an old bitter-bitter queen
tired old songs, how embarrassing
give it up old man: retire already!

Lobsters | 1/12/2007, 11:17 am EST

In other words, today’s Rock Stars are pussies. Townsend’s completely correct but I’ve been saying it for years.

Miggy | 1/12/2007, 11:22 am EST

townshend has scaled the highest mountains of rock, listen to live at leeds and all you little pretenders will know

Thomas | 1/12/2007, 11:25 am EST

name one good songwriter that has come out in the last 5-10 years that really is different and innovative and sustaining to good rock music. None of the bands today come close to what time period the who began to play in.

Joe | 1/12/2007, 11:25 am EST

Indie rock is mostly bunch of eunuchs. Decemberists? Of MOntreal? The Arcade Fire?

matthew666 | 1/12/2007, 11:27 am EST

Pete is gods personal guitar god!!!!!!

Swingline Stapler | 1/12/2007, 11:27 am EST

Good points made, but generations have to be factored in as well.
Anger delivered gently by any young generation seems plain weird. Have the happy pills eaten up teen angst altogether? Where it seems they should have something to scream about in those twisted times, they seem too busy being tender and complacent.
There’s something to be said for empowering the youth with a bit of anger thrown in. My best college concerts were seeing Rage Against the Machine and feeling after I’d left there like it was my responsibility to get out there and do something other than jerk off in front of Hot Topic.
Screaming’s only pointless when nothing’s being said. That generation needs a voice and it’s not Green Day or My Chemical Romance.

Elliott Smith | 1/12/2007, 11:44 am EST

if you want to hear an amazing recent record then you should listen to “The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me” by Brand New, you will not be dissapointed. The lyrics, the feel, anger, it’s all there. It’s also backed up by great music. These guys will be remembered far after the likes af My Chem which is a fad band.

yahya m | 1/12/2007, 11:45 am EST

i know every indie rocker says it, but as far as writing goes, all you gotta do is pop in some death cab, and gentle anger and intamacy and damn good song writing are all rolled into one perfectly fantastic package

Nihat | 1/12/2007, 11:59 am EST

C’mon guys! Wonder age of music is over. How many LP Masterpieces were cut between 65-75 ?
Hell, those granpa’s are still dominating the scene.

Roger | 1/12/2007, 12:03 pm EST

TOWNSHEND IS THE GREATEST SONGWRITER OF ALL TIME, THE WHO IS #1

Madumdum | 1/12/2007, 12:04 pm EST

His comments would be far more interesting if he actually named some artists.

jill hives | 1/12/2007, 12:08 pm EST

it’s the global warming i tell ya.

baba o riley | 1/12/2007, 12:45 pm EST

i check Townshend’s site every day just waiting for him to say something crazy.

baba o riley | 1/12/2007, 12:46 pm EST

“His comments would be far more interesting if he actually named some artists.”

read the actual post at his Web site, he does.

my two cents | 1/12/2007, 12:50 pm EST

I disagree with Pete. I don’t think rock music is going to become more “gentle.” I think rockers are going to get hairier.

Rowr | 1/12/2007, 12:52 pm EST

Rock ‘n’ Roll is sort-of over, as far as what Townsend’s talking about. Back in the day, there were limits and, therefore, extremes. But now, in an era where all the elements have been explored, there are no limits. You want angry music? Why settle for grunge when you can have grindcore, hardcore, speed metal, noise rock, & on.

With hip hop being the most popular and innovative music right now, rockers have to focus on doing what they do best. If that means that there’s less of an edge to rock (it does) than so be it.

b-b-b-b-b-bad broccoli | 1/12/2007, 1:06 pm EST

mars volta anyone? Very intimate while blasting you in the face! They are this generations voice. If you don’t believe and feel the need to spout something about their pretentious noodlings get back to me in a few years…..

Kudzu | 1/12/2007, 1:07 pm EST

I agree, Pete. Let the rabble prattle on but the new ‘whiners’ haven’t got a clue what with singing through their noses and devising yet another way to detune a guitar to befuddle little Johnny trying to figure the chords out. Long LIVE ROCK. p.s. what have they got to be angry about? the mall closed? they should get involved and get informed!

Barry | 1/12/2007, 1:14 pm EST

Maybe I’m confused. Powerfully gentle? Is that an oxymoron?

It’s all Emo’s fault. Or maybe The Cure’s. They started all this. Wait, even further back, maybe it was…Poe. Edgar Allen Poe was the original Emo posterboy. That bastard ruined it for all the macho rockers, like Pete Townshend.

little jimmy | 1/12/2007, 1:28 pm EST

OFF TOPIC

good news!

The Weekend Advisor:

“the White Stripes…The rock duo is working on an album due out this summer”

cont’d…”but its contract with V2 Records has expired. Ian Montone, the band’s manager, says the White Stripes are looking to sign a deal that covers only production and distribution, rather than a traditional label relationship.

“The tide has turned for some artists,” says Mr. Montone, who manages musicians with label deals as well as others with more unconventional arrangements. “I wouldn’t rule out a traditional label completely. But I’m trying to flip the label relationship to make it, ‘What does the label do to earn the money that we pay them?’”

Jesus... | 1/12/2007, 1:55 pm EST

jack white is a sell-out.

steve | 1/12/2007, 2:16 pm EST

Maybe there’s not too much to be angry about…I mean, Bush is an incompetent dick but when’s the last time anyone 40 or younger got a draft letter or saw a black man sprayed by a fire hose? The sixties were something different, they actually had something to rebel against. If there is anger in music it should be unbridled rage at shit like MTV (N.B. the fact that Rolling Stone is doing a REALITY TV SHOW on that channel confirms in my heart that rock n roll is more than likely dead). That’s who we should be angry at: for stealing music’s soul and turning it into a commodity…Where’s our Dylan? Where’s our Jimi? Where’s our Lennon? They’re never coming back! Everyone should learn an instrument, buy an eight track recorder and make your own records and give them to friends in the neighborhood. Fuck a record deal…they’ll just have you by the balls writing Three Days Grace songs.

Joe | 1/12/2007, 2:42 pm EST

Why are you liberals so obsessed with Bush? Your irrational vitriolic hatred is hilarious. Blame Bush for anything. *Laughs*

Joe | 1/12/2007, 2:43 pm EST

If there is anyone that lacks balls it is the Democrats.

steve | 1/12/2007, 2:55 pm EST

“irrational vitriolic hatred”? are you the waking ghost of leo strauss? did rupert murdoch pay you to say that? fuck man, get your own mind.

boo boo | 1/12/2007, 3:07 pm EST

i sort of lost respect for after the kiddie porn thing!!!

just when i was respecting him again after recording “rough boys under the sheets”!!

Steve | 1/12/2007, 3:13 pm EST

Metallica & Guns N Roses were manly. There aren’t any groups out now that manly that are popular.

Nirvana and Pearl Jam were equally manly to the Who.

Here is a better question who is the manliness of all time?

My vote: John Bonham

Skullman | 1/12/2007, 3:29 pm EST

Boo boo…..you’re just an idiot, plaine and simple. Go back to the projects…

5:15 Holly Canoly | 1/12/2007, 4:12 pm EST

I would call it Mope rock. Kind of like the rope-0-dope of music. mope-0-rock.

likroper.com | 1/12/2007, 4:33 pm EST

c’mon petey, don’t you know all them youngsters are on heavy pharmaceuticals?!…

Mike | 1/12/2007, 4:34 pm EST

Jack White is the only true whip-ass musician on a big scale. There might be some unknown, unsigned band playing someplace that’s breaking down the walls…but as for established “name” artists…Jack White is waiving the flag…and he’s doing it better than anybody else.

White Stripes and The Raconteurs motherfuckers!

likroper.com | 1/12/2007, 4:51 pm EST

Mike, no no no; i believe the band JET is the last of the heavy duty young rockers…the clinton administration killed rock n roll her in america, but luckily jet is not from the united states…neither is wolfmother…

beelzebub | 1/12/2007, 5:05 pm EST

uhhhhh, Tool??…….
Jack White’s alright, but it’s been done.
Wolfmother, not bad, but those guys are copycats too.

NEW RADIOHEAD!!
NEW NIN!!
Wake up folks, this stuff is out there, and I’ll be damned, radio stations even play some of this stuff!

When the hell did Jet become a “heavy duty band”?

It sounds like my 10 year old little brother trying his hardest to sound like……he’s not my 10 year old little brother….

jimmy dean | 1/12/2007, 6:01 pm EST

My Morning Jacket
Band of Horses

Steve | 1/12/2007, 6:11 pm EST

I feel what Pete’s saying. Seems to be a lot of wuss rock out there. Like, I’ve never heard, but people say Fall Out Boy is wimpy, and I know that Panic! at the Disco is wuss.

Paula Cole was right. Where is my John Wayne? Where is my prairie song? Where have all the cowboys gone?

SlappyJones | 1/12/2007, 7:07 pm EST

I for one will be looking forward to the new Who DVD next year similar to “the kids are alright”
called My Generation: Who’s Still Who.At least we got old footage to remind us what rock and roll was supposed to look like.Oh yeah get the friggin’ Keith Moon movie made already will you guys ?

peptobismal | 1/12/2007, 7:51 pm EST

grundge music

S-P | 1/13/2007, 3:05 am EST

I can see where he’s coming from, but who the hell is he to judge? “Endless Wire” doesnt rock half as hard as prime Who, and even when it tries, it falls flat and ends up sounding like a mockery of the Who’s glory years. As far as I can see, Pete’s part of the problem. “Endless Wire” was extremely disappointing for a guy who expects his Who to cause chaos in their music, like the old days.

Then again, the point he might be making is that younger musicians dont have an excuse to be settling for gentleness in their music when they still have the youthful stamina to bug out and cause danger, with which I wholeheartedly agree.

likroper.com | 1/13/2007, 11:45 pm EST

ok beelzebub! them er fightin’ werds! yer mother wears army boots! – yes; tool is great and their drummer is PHENOMENAL, but! they are sort of a bunch of old guys, we’re talking youngsters here! – and sure; wolfmother sounds a little like old sabbath and…ok whatever, fuck you!…

cheesecrop | 1/14/2007, 7:01 pm EST

9/10ths of the audience for rock freaks out at a certain point when they start to recognize that new rock isn’t being aimed precisely at them. I have no idea how old the writers here are, but I’m in my 30’s and aware that the music of now is not being aimed at me. No one NOT EVEN THE BOOMERS own rock and roll. If the kids are gonna sound a certain way, let’s sit back and see what they can do with the music. As for Townsend, musicians can probably hold off being out of touch for a great deal longer, but even they succumb at some point. Perhaps this is his first realization that he has in fact lost touch w/younger folks.

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