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Prolific Dead People, Chapter Six Million

1/10/07, 11:17 am EST

odbWhy is music so danged morbid? Yeah we get that the whole premise of recording –  preserving a moment in time long after it’s passed — lends itself to moribund nostalgia. Yada yada. What we’re talking about is the abundance of “new” recordings that feature dead musicians. The latest is this Mark Ronson mash-up of Coldplay’s “God Put A Smile Upon Your Face” and Britney Spears’ “Toxic” featuring vocals by . . . Ol’ Dirty Bastard. But this is nothing new. Eminem compatriot Proof, who was gunned down last April, has a solo disc in the works for release this year. And don’t even get us started on Tupac. Dude has been way more productive in the afterlife than he ever was as a living, breathing emcee. This phenomenon has become so normal, even accepted when a big-name artist dies that no one bats an eyelash anymore. It’s one thing to make a nice, tasteful tribute to a fallen musician, but to routinely capitalize on the novelty of new music produced by a dead musician — where the gimmick isn’t really the music itself but the fact that it’s surfaced almost supernaturally — seems yucky and creepy. Where do we draw the line?


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Quinn | 1/10/2007, 11:44 am EST

I like you, Lauren Gitlin.

RushFan | 1/10/2007, 12:25 pm EST

I think Rick Ruben handled the Johnny Cash stuff very well. Maybe he should be an example to others.

Larry | 1/10/2007, 12:28 pm EST

You’re absolutely right. But must of this shit comes out of the rap industry, and we should already know by now the soul purpose of rap music is to make money. So whatever. Hip Hop used to be cool. De La Soul, Tribe Called Quest, The Pharcyde, early Wu-Tang. It’s complete shit now. My personal favorite new trend in rap is when a rap artist will perform on like Jay Leno or something and have “musicians” in the back ground pretending to play instruments. It’s hilarious. They have like some guy holding a bass or a guitar in the back ground and either not playing it at all, or pretending to play it and doing a horrible job of pretending. 99% of rap artists can’t read or write music. That was ok when their rhymes were energetic, creative, original, etc. but now they all rap about the exact same thing. LAME>

Star Carlton the 3rd | 1/10/2007, 12:54 pm EST

When can we get a “We are the world” track with all of the dead musicians pasted together over the last 40 years. We know they can do it -ha ha.

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xombi | 1/10/2007, 1:30 pm EST

what a joke. “And don’t even get us started on Tupac. Dude has been way more productive in the afterlife than he ever was as a living, breathing emcee.” Everyone knows that 2pac and every other artist out there produces up to 40+ tracks per album then just narrow it down to like 12. That’s why albums can be released after a artist is deceased. You truly are a musical genius Laurin Gitlin!

Oh and a message to the troll who talked about how rappers get on jay leno and play with musicians. Come on man, most hip-hop producers use live f*ckin instruments in the studio. Hey bozo’s, get your fact’s straight!

tom wieler | 1/10/2007, 1:40 pm EST

the title to this article is more iller than the Zodiac killer!

it’s funny how Afeni Shakur talks about how great her son was, how she loves/loved him so, but has no problem releasing music that he didn’t find suitable to put out. afeni be on some “capatalize on your dead son” shit!

ads | 1/10/2007, 2:19 pm EST

asd

Elliott Smith | 1/10/2007, 2:21 pm EST

I agree that rap sucks, it’s a money making machine used to sell clothes,alcohol,televisions and cars. It is also very degrading to pretty much everyone. xombi is an idiot if he can’t see that, i guess he’s to busy strappin’ on his timbeland’s and drinkin’ his 40 to realize that, you might as well rob a bank and smoke some weed while you’re at it

jimmy jam | 1/10/2007, 2:47 pm EST

xombi, why are you using apostrophes for plurals? Nevermind, it would probably take too long to explain to you what
apostrophes and plurals are…..
And it’s not hard to make 40 songs about the same thing.
You’re fun Xombi, please post some more of your fanboy nonsense!

Larry | 1/10/2007, 3:05 pm EST

Hey Xmombi, name one rapper that plays a musical instrument.

Kevin | 1/10/2007, 3:43 pm EST

An appopriate place to draw the line is at the precise moment that releasing posthumous records becomes a way to cash in on a dead star’s fame and make money. The countless Nirvana cds that had surfaced following Kurt’s timely demise for example, have stunk of low-grade production and less-than-deft grabs at cash. Maybe one album would be nice, specifically if it is a send off to a fallen legend. Elliott Smith’s Basement on the Hill is one of his best. Sublime’s Stand by your Van? Not so much.

Grant | 1/10/2007, 3:53 pm EST

Hey Larry Lar,
The Roots have been a live band since their inception. But I don’t know if they’ve ever been on Leno. Probably not as for some strange reason they aren’t as popular as shit like 50 cent and all the other rappers who make throwaway songs that teenagers eat up.

quigly quaid | 1/10/2007, 3:54 pm EST

i think tupac’s death was no accident, i think mister death row knight and company had something to do with it…just look at all the videos made right before tupac’s death depicting death and/or afterlife…i know as a fact that hanoi rocks were paid in heroin for their work years ago, so what is the difference?…it seems that since dead artists tend to be more profitable; many are either rubbed-out through organized crime hits, or they are left to die on heroin etc, which is the same thing in a sense…

§hayla | 1/10/2007, 4:03 pm EST

i wanna new Queen album !

likroper.com | 1/10/2007, 4:06 pm EST

doing music by dead artists at karaoke is one thing, a good thing actually because it keeps their spirit alive (how many nights have i become jim morrison?) – in fact; there is a doctor at my local bar who does ‘ring of fire’ by johnny cash really good…

but as far as recording goes, one should record a dead person’s music for the right reasons – in other words: record the song because you think it is a good song; not because that person is dead of all things!?…

the bottom line is this: it is usually difficult to outdo the original tune’s impact and/or quality – so judge it by that…if it isn’t as good or better than the original, dump the tune and write your own damn song like everybody else!…

Anonymous | 1/10/2007, 4:09 pm EST

Larry 1st:

rapper that play’s musical instrument…ummm lemme think..
dj quick, warren g, pharrell, dr dre, that was 4..I could on and on. You truly are ignorant.

jimmy jam 2nd: not really speaking as a fanboy, just stating the facts.

xombi | 1/10/2007, 4:17 pm EST

please explain what apostrophes and plurals are jimmy spam…please do!

are you kidding me??

Moneymkr | 1/10/2007, 4:19 pm EST

I agree with Larry. There are very few good “rap” or hip-hop artists now. Most are just throwaway songs for teenagers to like, and the lyrics are awful. Bring back good hip hop!!

jimmy jam | 1/10/2007, 5:12 pm EST

Xombi! thank God you’re back. Really, I was getting worried. Now, I’ve got a question for you – What instrument does Warren G, Dr Dre, DJ Quick, and Pharell play? A sampler is not an instrument. Keyboard, maybe, but not when it’s being used as a sampler. You could have been smart on this one and said that you didn’t say “rappers” played instruments, you specifically stated that many “producers” do. But instead you played the fool again my lost friend. You did name 4 decent producers/rappers, however, I’m pretty sure none of them play an actaul instrument. I’m trying to help you here, you could have easily busted Larry’s bubble by stating The Roots, Outkast (organized noise & Andre), Goodie Mob, Slum Village, Blackalicious, Mos Def even had a lot of instrumental talent go to waste on The New Danger, Grand Master Flash, Beastie Boys, Hell even Whitey Ford for that matter, and so many more that you probably have never heard of. Did you actually call me Jimmy Spam? I guess your long absense from this board was spent thinking of a neat way to rhyme jam with something that was suppose to embarass me. I’m sorry, but you failed, continue on with your lame fanboy existence! Thank you Xombi, thank you so much for making my day!!

Anonymous | 1/10/2007, 5:44 pm EST

You are all idiots.

xombi | 1/10/2007, 6:03 pm EST

jimmy jam-you are the best…do I really need to tell you what instruments those above mentioned rapper/producers play? Do I really have to school you?

I would love to stay and play, but I just backed up my argument…now let mommy have her computer back.

likroper.com | 1/10/2007, 8:02 pm EST

blah blah blah ~ etc etc etc…

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