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Sebastian Bach Parades “Chinese Democracy” Knowledge In Our Faces

12/14/06, 11:34 am EST

Sebastian BachSo Sebastian Bach is essentially Axl’s publicist these days, right? That’s practically official already? The former Skid Row rocker has come to the defense of Axl et al, claiming that not only does Chinese Democracy have a release date, but that he knows what it is. He can’t say of course, because that would be a “betrayal of confidence.” Right.

His temporary solution for fans who are sick of this runaround bullshit? Come to the show. “Guns N’ Roses fans are not just interested in old songs,” the singer reportedly said. “They want to hear Chinese Democracy … If you want to hear the songs, come by the show.”

Who knew rock bands could be such shameless teases?


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LIK ROPER | 12/14/2006, 11:44 am EST

i was wondering; what does the government in the republic of china think of this troubling new GNR development?…

J | 12/14/2006, 11:57 am EST

right. chinese democracy has a release date. i’ll believe it when i see it.

for god’s sake, lifehouse could come out first.

Bilo | 12/14/2006, 11:57 am EST

lik my love pump roper

Bilo | 12/14/2006, 11:58 am EST

bach’s a cok

Bilo | 12/14/2006, 11:58 am EST

eat sht j

ralph | 12/14/2006, 12:15 pm EST

Hey Rolling Stone!! How about doing a piece on Paul Stalnley’s LIVE TO WIN. It’s the most atrocious shit ever written. It’s even knocked Starship’s “We Built This City” from the number one slot of worst songs of all time.

Bobby | 12/14/2006, 12:18 pm EST

SAVAGE ANIMAL, MAN!

Jeff | 12/14/2006, 12:19 pm EST

And hey, even that is more reliable info than the bullshit story Rolling Stone gave us about November 21st.

Who knew rock magazines could be so shameless?

uncle dank | 12/14/2006, 12:27 pm EST

get a job

Anonymous | 12/14/2006, 12:41 pm EST

i bet jesuswill come before chinese democracy

surforia | 12/14/2006, 12:44 pm EST

someone needs to kidnap Bach, “Oldschool” style in a black van blasting “Master of Puppets.” Then torture his ass by playing the new Fall Out Boy on repeat until he gives up the info…

Killa | 12/14/2006, 12:49 pm EST

I trust Sebastian. A light at the end of the tunnel after all. My bet is next Tuesday the album will hit shelves.

june | 12/14/2006, 1:02 pm EST

axl and sebastion licked my nipples raw

Slash | 12/14/2006, 1:04 pm EST

Who gives a flying fuck!
Axl is a joke and Guns N Roses is dead.
Axl’s ego is as big as China, that’s what killed the band.
He can jam a big plate of Kung Pow chicken up his ass and listen to the sound of nobody caring…

No Cartoons | 12/14/2006, 1:19 pm EST

Please … no more rock cartoons like Bach and Axl. Gawd, they are the epitome of all that is wrong with rock n roll.

What a tour … pieces of Skid Row and Guns N’ Roses …

Someone tell these clowns that the eighties are dead.

Bret Michaels at least had the sense to go country … he seems like a genius compared to these two fools who are still trying to sell the same old shtick.

No Cartoons | 12/14/2006, 1:23 pm EST

oh yeah .. My Chemical Romance, The Killers, Fall Out Boy, Panic! At the Disco, Audio Slave, The Foo Fighters … Who needs Paxel and The Savage Animal/Gilmore Guy!

LOL! Say not to Back’s “18 and Life,” and Axl’s seriously lame and overrated “You Could be Mine”

Note to Axl: Yes, we all DO KNOW where we are! So, please stop asking! Get with the times!

Alex Mar | 12/14/2006, 1:26 pm EST

Who fuckin’ cares anymore? How many times can you be lied to before you just stop fuckin’ caring?

ROCKGOD | 12/14/2006, 1:45 pm EST

Fuck GNR! What about Slash and Velvet Revolver?

surforia | 12/14/2006, 1:56 pm EST

I’m not really sure why everyone feels it’s so cool to bash axl; if you’re a rock fan, you should be rooting him on, and it’s undeniable that the guy isn’t a poser – he does what the fuck he wants and that’s the kind of attitude that mainstream rock has been missing since kurt swallowed that shotgun. Facts are facts, and no matter what any indie-rock-snob elitist says, there are millions of fans all over the world that still care about chinese democracy.

Broken Axel | 12/14/2006, 1:57 pm EST

Screw axel. he destroyed Guns ‘N Roses. he sucks. Slash & Velvet Revolver are 10x better than axl ever will be

nathan | 12/14/2006, 2:08 pm EST

Who cares if chinese democrappy ever comes out, anyone who’s seen GnR live recently knows there ain’t much to look forward to.

hooligan | 12/14/2006, 2:24 pm EST

the only thing sadder than the supposed relevance of Guns and Roses these days is that, by extension, it’s giving people a reason to listen to Sebastian Bach….. God help us.

Matt | 12/14/2006, 2:24 pm EST

Wow, who would’a thunk it? Liz belittling Guns N Roses AGAIN.

We get it. You hate Axl, and Rolling Stone’s readers seem to agree. Congratulations.

I’m glad Goodman didn’t get the assignment to do the GNR concert review a couple issues ago. It would have been as bad as Blender’s review.

LIK ROPER | 12/14/2006, 2:41 pm EST

blah blah blah ect ect etc…

Kev | 12/14/2006, 2:55 pm EST

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

T he shame will be all the tv, radio and internet promotion and video playing etc when it comes out. They’ll pay off VH1 etc just like M. Jackson did to keep playing his crap songs, movies etc. every other weekend when no one cares.

Dude | 12/14/2006, 2:58 pm EST

I propose a band throughout the media world on reporting on Guns N’ Roses until a press release is given by Axl (either directly or indirectly through a publicist/manager/other associate) that reveals the actual release date of Chinese Democracy and a tracklist. Until then, no media outlet should make any mention of the album.

baconballs | 12/14/2006, 3:28 pm EST

When it drops and resets the entire music world right back into rock and roll and out of this boyband/hip-hop nightmare we’ve been in since Kurt and Alice died.. then the sycophants at RS will be all over Axl’s jock. Again. Rolling Stone: All the crap that’s fit to sell.

John Kerry still sucks :) | 12/14/2006, 3:29 pm EST

I get better things to do besides waitin for this so called album, “CD” like hanging myself. :)

move on people. GNR is long dead.

Tippmann A-5 Paintball Marker | 12/14/2006, 3:41 pm EST

Does anyone really care about Axl and Co.? We’ve been so patient for the past 10 yrs or so.

Also we have been lied too, been kept in the dark and being disspointed every year and the GNR camp has been quiete like a top sercet area 51 alein autopsy.

If Chinese Democracy comes out, every needs to download the “mother f-ucker” and everyone needs to stop attending this cover band on tour.

E-Fish-head | 12/14/2006, 3:51 pm EST

CD will come out… At least by 2029…
Releasing an ablum is sooooo overrated these days.

-E-Fish-head.
!E-Fis h-head.
?E-Fish-head.

john | 12/14/2006, 3:55 pm EST

CHINESE DEMOCRACY WILL CHANGE THE WORLD….Kurt Cobain tried to kill rock, and he did ruin alot of careers….but he could never kill GNR, the one band he hated most…haha…no matter how bad the last 15 years of music have been….GUNS N ROSES are ALWAYS on the radio..and ALWAYS sell records…..they are unstoppable

Glasshole | 12/14/2006, 3:56 pm EST

You people are stupid…when that album comes out it will sell millions. If it sucks it won’t matter. The nostalgia alone will carry 30-50 year old to the store to buy it. I can guarantee the record is coming out on Dec 26th. It’s a smart move…

Anonymous | 12/14/2006, 4:44 pm EST

GnR had one good record 20 years ago. You all should get over it and take anger management classes. While you’re at it you should also book into loser management classes because if you spend money on GnR (other than buying Appetite; maybe Lies) that’s exactly what you are.

GN'R | 12/14/2006, 6:33 pm EST

Axl is the God of rock!!!!! Chinese Democracy will change the music world for the greater good. Guns N Roses 4 eva!!

BODI | 12/14/2006, 6:34 pm EST

Lycos has reported that Guns N’ Roses was the 4th most searced band online this past year. They were behind Green Day, Pussycat Dolls, and Fall Out Boy, just ahead of the Rolling Stones, Nickleback and Evanescance (spelling?). Not a bad sign for possible GNR Democracy sales…..being the highest non-TRL, 12 year old girl band on the list. Fans are getting pissed though concerning the delay….thats a fact

ANON | 12/14/2006, 6:50 pm EST

its funny how people who “don’t care about guns” make the effort to type their feelings about the subject, maybe deep down you know that gun’s are back and will kick all your shitty modern bands ass’.

1 | 12/14/2006, 6:51 pm EST

RockGod | 12/14/2006, 6:58 pm EST

I can hardly wait for the record to come out and completely wipe emo, rap, rap/rock, and all the rest of that forcefull Nickleback/Greenday/U2/My Chemical Three Days Grace garbage the radio media shoves down our throat claiming this is rock. Guns N Roses will do what they did to the late 80’s depression… revitalize it and give a rebirth in pure rock n roll in your face attitude that has been gone since 93.. and for all you “casual” listeners that blow this Group off as a coverband, every member was handpicked and has a long history of musical presence, and are far more capable than Duff McKagen, and Steven Adler. Slash is only as great as the lyrics he wraps his guitar licks around and the last time he produced anything long lasting and memorable was on the Spaghetti Incident. Long Live Guns N Roses.

billbailey | 12/14/2006, 7:01 pm EST

The new gnr album is going to reshape the rock landscape. If all of you people like RS and trust the opinion of rocks greatest magazine you should know that they love GNR. Look at all of the album ratings for everything GNR has done. Axl is not a has been people. For the love of god have you heard the leaks from Chinese Democracy. Its the best shit out there in rock right now people

chinese democracy | 12/14/2006, 8:02 pm EST

i hope when this record finally comes out it will completly reshape thew music scene and wipe out bands such as fall out boy and panic at the disco which are complete jokes

WARHAND | 12/14/2006, 8:11 pm EST

I think it is truly one of the saddest things thats ever happened to metal. What you ask? Sebastion Bach becoming Axl’s personal cocksucker, I remember when Axl actually dated chicks. Get rid of Sebastion Bitch, stop being a coward and release the record, then call Guns and Roses and apologize for being a idiot AXL. Oh ya also S. Bitch, I went to the FUCKIN GNR show in Vancouver, all that I heard was windows smashing and police handcuffs clicking cause your maniac best buddy was to scared to fuckin show, or his tarrot reading wasnt good that day….IM SO OVER YOU IDIOTS.

Mr. Epson | 12/14/2006, 8:47 pm EST

Some of you guys need to read up on Guns N’ Roses. Axl Rose & Slash decided to go seperate ways, he never ‘fired everyone’. But what should I expect? Everyone who posts here think they know everything about music.

At the very least, Axl has never sold out like half the nostalgia acts out there today. He done whatever the f*ck he wanted and THAT is Rock N’ Roll.

Nick | 12/14/2006, 8:47 pm EST

It’s getting tuff for GNR fans. Hope the band will be so kind as to issue a statement regarding an album that was promised this year, numerous times.

elliottmarx | 12/14/2006, 8:59 pm EST

Fire Goodman

Jeff | 12/14/2006, 9:09 pm EST

Mr. Anonymous,

If you think Appetite and Lies are the only good GN’R records, I understand it’s a matter of opinion, but yeah…you’re pretty much clueless.

Ever hear ‘Locomotive’? I rest my case.

Mayhem | 12/14/2006, 9:15 pm EST

Mr. Epson,

I you knew music you would realize how wrong you are. Yes, him and Slas did part amicably. But if you actually did some reading or some investigation you would find that W. Axl Rose is notoriously impossible to work with, being extremely difficult and even more eccentric almost to the point of unbearable to be around. You will find he is also into all sorts of day to day therapy with Tarot readers, astrologers and other forms of fuckedupness. HE IS THE REASON THE REST OF THE BAND LEFT,DO NOT KID YOURSELF. However I am a huge fan and don’t really care how fucked up he is, just get your facts straight, then post. OR just go to youtube and download some interview’s of him freaking out on his band, or publicly calling them down in front of 90,000 people in Japan or, or, or…..we could go on and on, just do your homework. Otherwise I’m fuckin hoping the original line-up reunites in 2012 when they get inducted to the Hall of fame. I’m out.

Lindsay | 12/14/2006, 9:22 pm EST

chinese democracy will go down in history as some myth…like bigfoot…or the abominable snowman. axl’s sitting on his ass laughing at all of his fans. he’s not smart enough to take over the world like bono but he sure as hell likes confusing people.

Laurens from Indonesia | 12/14/2006, 9:28 pm EST

Let Velvet Revolver open for Guns. Now that would create a whirlwind of publicity.

BigJohnson316 | 12/14/2006, 9:34 pm EST

Elizabeth Goodman; yet another biased article about Guns N’ Roses. It’s obvious you have something against Axl and although you can’t write any negative reviews about concerts (because there is nothing negative about the 2006 tour shows), you resort to criticizing Chinese Democracy and the release date. HOW ORIGINAL!

and taking over the world like Bono? All Bono has done is sold himself out with radio-friendly marketable music, there is nothing shameful with how Axl is playing his cards.

and once again for the records.. Elizabeth Goodman how have you not been fired yet? Your talentless bullshit is really getting old.

readytorock | 12/14/2006, 10:22 pm EST

I saw the new GNR on Monday. They easily kicked the asses of any of the so called “rock” acts these days. Axl looked and sang great and was as dangerous as ever. Nobody epitomizes rock n’ roll as this mofo.

Mark | 12/14/2006, 10:42 pm EST

I love the way everyone who posts here either thinks that the album will never come out or if it does be absolute shit, or they think that it will come out this year and when it does, revitalise rock music forever. I think I’ll go with the second option…LONG LIVE GNR!!!!!

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Southside Joe | 12/14/2006, 11:59 pm EST

Axl just issued a press release… the album will be out by March 6th at the latest… and he fired his manager, ha ha.

Holy shit, its actually coming out!

Southside Joe | 12/15/2006, 12:01 am EST

Axl just issued a press release… the album will be out no later than March 6th

tim | 12/15/2006, 12:07 am EST

axl just sent a letter to all the gnr fansites
tenetive date of march 6th

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.c om news section to confirm

paul | 12/15/2006, 12:10 am EST

correction slash n roses axl has released a statement and saide march 6th is the tentative date

Worship the Gold Calf!! | 12/15/2006, 12:18 am EST

Sebastian Bach? This guy’s music is so bad he ought to be horsewhipped. On television.

Aaron D. | 12/15/2006, 12:40 am EST

Who really cares anymore? Seriously, who really cares about Axl’s SOLO PROJECT? Just because it’s called Guns n’ Roses doesn’t make it so.

Word........ | 12/15/2006, 1:10 am EST

Yo, why does the big guy up stairs take guys like kurt and jimmy and leave us with some fat mouthy pig ex Bon Jovi American Idol creation that makes shitty music and sucks a maniacs balls daily. Hey Sebastion BIOTCH, your lame and sound like poison, FUCK OFF and die.

Nick | 12/15/2006, 1:53 am EST

March 6th. I cant wait!!!!

don't post-get a life | 12/15/2006, 3:15 am EST

everyone who writes:”Who cares?” actually CARES -cause if you don’t give a f… don’t post,or are you people really that borred?

Kevin | 12/15/2006, 5:46 am EST

March 6th for the release date?This is coming from Axl who has said the new G N R CD will be out “soon”.He’s been saying that for the past 10 years-maybe more.I think the more the release date is pushed back,the less the new CD will be exciting to hear.

ER, yeah | 12/15/2006, 9:06 am EST

Thursday, December 14, 2006
An open letter to our fans:

Guns N’ Roses regrets to announce that the following concert tour dates have been canceled:

January 10: Sacramento
January 11: Bakersfield
January 13: Reno
January 16: San Diego

Because of the scheduling of these particular shows, valuable time needed by the band and record company for the proper setup and release of the album “Chinese Democracy” would have been lost. Rather than delay the album yet again, all involved have decided to remove these shows from GN’R’s schedule. We hope our fans understand and we apologize for any inconveniences this may have caused. Tickets may be refunded at point of purchase.

To say the making of this album has been an unbearably long and incomprehensible journey would be an understatement. Overcoming the endless and seemingly insane amount of obstacles faced by all involved, notwithstanding the emotional challenges endured by everyone — the fans, the band, our road crew and business team — has at many times seemed like a bad dream in which one wakes up only to find that they are still in the nightmare. Unfortunately, this time it has been played out for over a decade in real life.

The true, ongoing, behind-the-scenes triumphs and casualties are much more complicated than any negative speculation that the media or otherwise has managed to hit upon. For much of the time, various legal issues have arisen, demanding that the best way to deal with these things publicly, quite frankly, was to keep our mouths shut in an attempt to ensure the best outcome– especially one that wouldn’t jeopardize the band or the album. It’s easy for people to point out how others have handled similar situations or how they would have dealt with these issues themselves if they encountered them in their own lives. But again, without full knowledge of the various dynamics and circumstances involved, these types of comments or commentary are just uninformed, disassociated, generally useless — and often hindering –speculation.

When I agreed to do our recent North American tour, I did it with the understanding that my manager, Merck Mercuriadis, and I were in full agreement regarding our strategy and touring plans and, most important, that any and all things needed to release the album by Dec. 26 at the latest were in place. Unfortunately, it turned out that this was not the case, and I regret to say that the album will not be released by the end of the year. Although many things went extremely well and were very exciting, there were, in our opinion, unnecessary and avoidable complications on our tour having to do with the tour routing, scheduling and album and video plans that wreaked havoc on all involved. This was compounded by an overall sense of a lack of respect by management for the band and crew and each individual’s particular expertise that has resulted, unfortunately, in the end of both Guns’ and my managerial involvement with Merck Mercuriadis.

In regard to a release date for the album itself, certain minor – aand I do mean minor — additions, as well as contract negotiations, need to be completed. Barring any unforeseen complications, these things have now been adequately scheduled. The band and I, along with our record company, feel that this record deserves the proper setup and promotion, not the “13 Tuesdays left” and “It may just appear in your record store” approach offered by management. We believe this strategy may have been used as a tool by management to sell this latest tour to the various promoters, and if this was the case, this was obviously unfair to them. The stress of dealing with this situation has been considerable for everyone, including the band, but more important, in our opinion, it was something utterly insane to do to our fans. You have our apologies, and please know we have been laboring over this with management for the entire North American tour.

It takes approximately eight weeks for an album to hit the shelves once it has been turned in to the record company. For whatever reasons, it appears that it may have been mistakenly inferred by management that this time period could be condensed to three weeks. With that being said, this is not a promise, a lie or a guarantee, but we do wish to announce a tentative release date of March 6. This is the first time we have done this publicly for this album. Others have made up all the other dates for their own reasons. We would like to assure the fans that everything in our power will be done to meet this date. Once it is finalized and official, you will be notified. If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible. We thank you for your patience.

In the end, it’s just an album, but it’s one that I, the band, our record company and all involved believe and feel is a true Guns N’ Roses album. Ultimately the public will decide, and regardless of the outcome, our hearts, lives and our passion has been put into this project every step of the way. If for no other reason, we feel those elements alone merit your consideration. We do hope you can hold on just a bit longer, and if not, please take a break and we’ll be more than glad — if you so choose — to see you again later.

Once again, we offer our sincere apologies and our deepest thanks. Guns N’ Roses also would like to thank all the fans who attended the 70 concerts in 21 countries for their support in 2006. All the best to each and every one of you over this holiday season, thank you and God bless.

Sincerely,

Axl Rose

whadya say????? | 12/16/2006, 8:00 am EST

Bon Jovi is prob so sorry he deloped and endorsed this fat pig idiot, cut your hair, find a band to progresse with, stop eating Axls ass for lunh and become the singer you were almost 20 yrs ago, cause right now your little bro is the big thing in your family…….you are a broadway singer…..waste of talent.

utechick | 9/5/2007, 3:36 am EST

all those out shit canning for GNR, Axl and Sebastian what have you done in your lives that give you the right to judge these people! Where are your albums sorry boring 8 hour office jobs don’t record crappy green eyed joe blows music
Rock on GNR and Sebastian my 6 yr old nephew loves GNR and the next generation is the ones that count

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