Axl, take your hideous cornrows and get back under that rock you’ve been living under for the last decade. The world doesn’t need any more cheesy power ballads.

Without the original band, who cares? Axl is awesome, but he needs the original band.

This is going to be one of those stupid situations, like styx or three dog night, where each original member forms their own band and uses the name. I hate it.

While on the subject, Alice in Chains needs to change their name.

PUT THE FUCKING ALBUM OUT ALREADY!!! IT’S GETTING TO BE A JOKE..i am sure it’s gonna be good…what the hell is he so afraid of? rock and roll is supposed to be spontaneous to some extent…

IGGY AND THE STOOGES new lp is out in MARCH….called THE WEIRDNESS…that is what the big news should be!!

Seems like GnR lost its way. I am not sure if it was drugs or religion (Axl has fallen for some sort of mystical crap that raises my BS shields)

My guess is that Chinese Democracy will be released eventually, but it will certainly not be anything of any signficance. Put another way, GnR will be stuck in the ’90s, but we are over 10 years past that.

And in case any fans out there are still purists, Slash did a car commercial. ‘Nuff said.

Why does anyone care? Guns and Roses are awful; thin, lumbering, weak, lunkheaded songs with basic, wearying badly played electric guitar noise, deliberately bad and mildly offensive lyrics; obnoxious Axl Rose throaty, pansy-ish pop-metal singing and amazingly generic solos; throw in some bombastic, ridiculous Queen and Elton John take-offs too, odd for such an openly homophobic band. Why do so many people pay attention to this album if it’s not even *announced* yet!?

I hope Tommy Stinson stays away from this project. His solo album was great.

I’m sure Axl just keeps tinkering with the songs over and over, thinking he can make them just a little better each time. If he doesn’t get lucid we won’t see it until after he dies because that seems like the only thing that’ll stop him from working on it.

axl should be hanged…publicly

I’m a huge G&R fan, but I hate that the media treats this band as if it is G&R… it isn’t. I don’t care. If I want an approximation of G&R, I’ll listen to Velvet Revolver. I expect nothing from Axl.

I still cannot believe they kicked Steven Adler out. He was the best.

“Then he signes off”

“carpe diem speach”

“or lack there of”

“Will this album every come out?”

WOW Goodman. You’ve topped yourself.

I’ve said it once on here and I’ll say it again — Velvet Re, I meant Guns N’ Roses is the best American band that ever lived. Period. Metallica w/Burton is a close second followed by Aerosmith circa ’70s drug era.

Good coverage, though. Rock on.

I can’t believe how much milage Goodman gets out of bashing GNR. What’s this, a weekly column now?

what is this speach word of which you speak?

GNR went past “has been” status already a couple times and have not redeemed themselves. I don’t think they will. Lets forget about Axle and Pete Doherty. Both losers, nothing will come out of them.

What a joke, this album is never going to come out. Seriously, can’t we all just stop talking about it?

speAch, I’m sure Word has spellcheck…I think it even automatically fixes it now…..

I forgot Axl was still alive.

They’re wash-ups. Hacks. History. No one cares.

speach ryhmes with biatch

I went to the G&R show the other night, and based on that performance I don’t care if Chinese Democracy is ever released.

It’s not even the real Guns…Velvet Revolver is more Guns than this mess of a band.
It’s nice to see Goodman writing about music for a change (mistakes and all).

GNR is no longer relevant as a band.

This project is doomed to failure.

It is stupid to do a GNR record without Slash, Izzy and Duff. It’s not GNR anymore. It’s a travesty.

Rolling Stone posted a BLABBERMOUTH story? What happened to this site? Rolling Stone is washed up at this point. And the writer forgets to mention this is a no-name site in Italy that has barely any users. I guess this got them 15 minutes of fame.

Just an added thought: 3 of the top 25 or so grossing concerts for November 2006 were Guns N’ Roses shows. And their ticket prices are nowhere near as high as Aerosupply… err smith/Crue tour, etc. Not bad for a band that isn’t relevant… yet one which every news site is constantly talking about lately.

i think this whole situation is hilarious.
you’re talking about GUNS N ROSES, okay?
a band that was only cool for their first record (appetite) and e.p. (lies). after that, they were a joke. Use Your Illusions more or less sucked, there was maybe like 8 good songs out of the 98 on both records. it’s so weird to me that there are so many fansites for a band that was only good for 4 years….i mean, it’s not like someone in the band dies and they were prevented from doing anything after their good stuff. you’re talking avout a guy (axl) who has more or less gone out of his way to suck BAD for a LONG time. they shoulda kept their shit together….they could have been better than aerosmith, or maybe almost as good as the stones, but they fucking blew it.

i have to admire slash, though. in fact, i really admire everyone in that band except axl because izzy, slash, duff, and adler have all stuck to what they were good at, ya know? i mean, all of them have evolved as players and no doubt are producing “different” work now than their original offerings, but they never jumped to industrial or some shit. they’ve stuck with rock n roll, which is the greatest music ever invented…..

Who really cares?

That about covers it: Who cares? Axl still thinks it’s 1991. Dude, you should have been on heavy medication years ago. You missed your window and pssst! You forget your real band.

Axl has shot himself in the foot. By this point, C.D. could have an official speech prepared solely for this album by God and people will still complain… “We waited that long for THIS?”

I’ve heard some of the leaks from the supposed album and i must admit they sound nothing less than awesome.

I also own the VR and its baffling to see people comment they are GnR when they released such mediocre music.

Oh well to each their own!!

that ITALIAN “no-name site” has 3000 registered users and a lot more of guest users.
here today gone to hell has less than 8000 WORLDWIDE users.
so shut the fuck up.

great article RS, everybody’s tired of silence.

Copy and paste this link on your browser to hear one of the CD songs; BETTER

http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=O_NsbiSttME

guns n roses owns all of u.

well reading some of the posts here I am not surpised, afterall this is rollingstone.com, most of the bands rolling stone covers are shit, so I am not suprised their readers hate a legendary rock band like Guns N Roses…bottom line is, we need “Chinese Democracy.” The world has not seen a great rock n roll record since 1991, when the Illusions came out… Do you want to know why Axl can get away with not putting out a record, and why the world still cares?? Its simple…no one,,, ill say that again no one has come out after him in the past 15 years to knock him off the throne of hard rock…he is the last great american rock star, for a while people thought Kurt Cobain replaced him, but that wore off after a few years..and people took grunge for what it was…another fad…like boybands and pop music….Axl Rose is still the king, and still gets the press because he is unchallenged…In the history of rock there was always a huge rock n roll band…from the stones it went to zepplin and aeromsith then to Guns N Roses then to NOTHING!!!!! GNR are the last great rock n roll band…so that should answer your questions as to why they still matter….

Ok, I swear to God, this is going to be the last Chinese Democracy-related post I make. At least until the album comes out, if it ever does. I reserve the right to rip the album anonymously, in the grand tradition of the internet.

OK, here goes: No one should be shocked another ‘release date’ for this album has come and gone. Axl’s been playing this game for about 10 years now. Secondly, no one should care. GnR has, at the moment, precisely ONE solid album to their credit, and it came out almost 20 years ago. Everything since then has been stop-gap throwaways or overblown trash. Argue all you want that you could make a classic album out of the best moments of the Illusion discs, that’s not what happened.

If you wanna get excited about a band with one solid album, go try and convince Boston to make a comeback. Yeah, I just compared Guns and Roses to Boston. Sorry if I made anyone’s head explode with my blasphemy…..

hey goodman why do you insist on bashing the band with sources like blabermouth and small litle gnr fan sites. does it make you feel like a good journalist to pursue what is obviously your own personal agenda with such horrible sources to back you up?

Axl must be glad he owns the rights to the name Guns n’ Roses, or else he wouldn’t have been able to….. oh yeah… he hasn’t done shit in 15 years… My bad…

It’ll be great to hear this album when it comes out.

My only gripe is that Slash and the other junkies from the old GnR werent fired earlier, their sloppy playing live back in the day was nothing short of awful.

Axl was the creative mind who wrote the songs, im sure the new album will show GnR is and always was Axl and that the others were lucky to profit from the great songs Axl penned.

jimmy jazz…do you know anything about music at all? Appetite is not a “solid” album…it is the greatest rock record ever made…

What few here seem to realize, is that Axl was one of the two main writers for the band. And, he’s surrounded himself with some high caliber musicians who can pull off the old stuff with ease.

I also agree with the comment by “DUMB,” in that the comment was left by a person who meets that description. If you don’t like kick ass hard rock, then go back to listening to whatever shit MTV tells you to like.

oh yeah by the way rolling stone…YOU guys were the only ones who said the record may come out on November 21st…GNR never said that….Its like me making up a release date for tomorrow and the record doesnt come out then I go off on GNR for it….

Axl’s manager (Merck Mercuriadis) should stop lying to the fans. He’s constantly saying to the kids that the album is coming out this year only to promote the current Axl’s tour. The only thing those guys are interested in is the kids’ pocket money.

If you are not able to complete a fuckin’ album it’s better to stop talking about it.

This is very disrespectful of Bumblefoot and this just discusts me. First of all, Axlism wrote made that picture and you have just used it I’m sure without his permission. Second of all, Ron Thal did nothing other than send a nice message to his fans. You guys take it as a chance to make a fool of GNR and once again complain of the album. According to YOUR sources Rolling Stone, we should have had the album LAST MONTH! This article is nothing but discusting and the author should think before she writes another article like this again.

Chilly C is a genius!!!

fuck gnr kopecky rules

Jordan, your comment about the real Gunners was stupid. You are not a real GNR fan. You are an Axl’s nutswinger.

I just checked my calendar… Yep, it’s not 1991…

I Saw G N R in Bmore in November and it was one of he best shows I’ve ever seen. Those guys are real live talented musicians who absolutely jammed for 2 and a half hours. It was amazing and Ive seen ALOT of other bands in my day.

People who hate on gn’r were never fans to begin with. Why didn’t the author check out real fan sites like newgnr.com or heretodaygonetohell.com for a real impression of how the fans are feeling. Must be because every concert review posted by the fans involves the words “amazing” and “best show ever been to.” Nice bootleg picture of the band by the way. This is journalism that I would expect in an elementary school newspaper.

Axl must be glad he owns the rights to the name Guns n Roses, or else he wouldn’t have been able to… oh yeah… He hasn’t done shit in 15 years… My bad

So goodman, your basically asking when the album will come out?… Umm OK?

Who gives a S&^t!?!?!

It’s a great article. Fans are tired of Axl’s and Merck’s bullshit. There’s no freedom of speech on most of GNR related sites specially heretoday which is moderated by the Gestapo.

Enough is enough ! Release the album or go home !

Stop milking AFD !

@ EFISH: bbf’s message was “nice” with no doubt, but was also “rambling, self contradicting, essentially substanceless, sentimental”, as the journalist smartly said. this is a fact.

@ nbk: italian fans don’t hate GNR, they really love every incarnation of that band. they hate silence from management after the “13 tuesdays” story, and they hate censorship. and if you read carefully htgth.com, you can find a lot of disappointed fans (even if there is a lot of censorship over there).

so shut the fuck up another time.

This album will suck. Axl Rose is not Brian Wilson. Not many people care about the lack of this album.
Someone below had it right, rock and roll is spontaneous. If he’s mastering and remastering (I don’t even think there’s anything recorded myself) then he’s making it even worse.

Axl, you are not GnR. Your toilet paper.

Axl needs to release this damn album already.

Don’t bother man. All axl fucktards will swear by their idol, no matter what.

Here’re some results we got from the Axl Pose army:

-No new “gnr” album in 16yrs+ –

What the lobotomized fans say: he’s writing something epic

What it really means: The guy is not a very creative or talented musician

-No original members-

What the lobotomized fans say: It’s still GnR, Axl is there dancing to the old songs

What it really means: We are seeing a cover group of a once great band

-Chinese democracy comes out this year-

What the lobotomized fans say: our idol is back!

What it really means: cash is running out, let’s pull a greatful dead

When it comes out, it’ll be huge because this is no vocalist that can deliver the passion that axl does. There has to be some significance to the December dates at the Gibson.

I too have heard the leaks on the net from the supposedly forthcoming album. I think it’s going to be magnificent. Everyone agrues about it not being GNR anymore since Axl’s the only one left of the real band. Yes, I agree, it sucks. But that doesn’t take away from the fact that the new songs are good.

I think the thing that ticks me off, and alot of you guys too, is that the band (especially Axl) claims it’ll be out this year and it never seems to happen. Supposedly they want the album to just appear in stores one day, without any marketing. That’s cool. But how many times are we going to drive to the local record shop for the album before we stop looking altogether? I reached that point already. I’m not saying I’m not going to buy it. I’m simply saying that I’ll do it after it’s been out for a few days or a week so that I know I’m not wasting a trip to the store.

The guy from the band should not have posted anything though. If you want to tell me something by posting then tell me when this album is going to be out….for real.

Unfortunately, if the album is ever released, it will do very well… if only because of the incredibly ignorant people out there who will buy it for the name alone, regardless of what they’ve heard.

I was never much of a GnR fan beforehand and i sure as hell have no interest in seeing Axl play with whatever “All-Star GnR Tribute Band” hes got playing behind him.

Most ignorant thing I’ve read in a long time. You took something nice he said and tried to spin it into a lie, making it look stupid (or at least trying to). It’s because of things like this that most people avoid fans, don’t answer emails, etc. He doesn’t HAVE to say anything to anyone, and if he chose to do so, people should at least try to respect that. Do get your facts straight next time.

@Prime: Bumblefoot stated that this wasnt anything affiliated with GNR. It was simply a letter from him to his fans. He isnt allowed to say anything about CD even if he wants to so dont blame Ron please. GNR will tell us the release date so until then, sit back and wait. Hopefully not too much longer.

Chinese Democracy Starts Now!

Great post Waxy !

If that album is released it will be a flop.

nugnr is a joke.

Ron was just trying to help, no need to bash him for being a good guy

axl’s voice sounds like a dying cat during a furious masterbation session. Like Kurt Cobain said, GNR are a bunch of wanna be glam rock losers with no talent. I’de rather listen to velvet revolver anyday

And Axl called the Eagles of Death Metal ‘has-beens’. Kinda like the pot calling kettle black, isn’t it?

Download Rock Am Ring 2006 video from a torrent site and I bet you ANYTHING you will change your mind.

We don’t care if they sound great or bad : it’s not GNR.

Period.

I’m the fool on heretoday. Come to meet me there ! There are plenty of fools ! It’s a funny farm !

Go listen to Bono or Vedder, they are worth it. Axl will never come close to these two, but he stalks around as if he is above them somehow. Please …

It’s a stupid game they play:

Hint of a spring release … move it to summer … push a fall/winter release … hint of a spring release again …

Repeat for a decade …

Axl would be better off staging his own death and then he could keep putting new music out there and use the last 13 years or so of silence as a good excuse for a suddenly endless catalog of tunes.

… or he could reunite with the original band and have half a chance.

So yeah, why doesn’t RS write an article about how they totally got the release date wrong? Why rip on Bumblefoot – a very nice hired gun who’s just trying to calm people.

Yes, he’s a hired gun…he’s still talented…and a great guy by all accounts.

PUT THE DAMN ALBUM OUT ALREADY

and Rolling Stone:

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, thanks for the false release date, dicks. You got me excited for no reason.

This article is complaining about lack of info. I’d rather have a lack of info than bullshit info like you guys gave me…and that’s the whole point of Bumblefoot’s letter.

Don’t bother man. All axl fucktards will swear by their idol, no matter what.

Here’re some results we got from the Axl Pose army:

-No new “gnr” album in 16yrs+ –

What the lobotomized fans say: he’s writing something epic

What it really means: The guy is not a very creative or talented musician

-No original members-

What the lobotomized fans say: It’s still GnR, Axl is there dancing to the old songs

What it really means: We are seeing a cover group of a once great band

-Chinese democracy comes out this year-

What the lobotomized fans say: our idol is back!

What it really means: cash is running out, let’s pull a greatful dead

This motherfuckin record should now be called Polish Beaurocracy!
Yo – a hearty Fuck you to anyone daring to put Eddie Cheddar and Bonzo in the same category as Axl.. Those herbs are way too safe for a real rock category..
While we’re talking about real rock, check out my man GG Allin if you want to know about real rock and roll, Bitch, BYAHHH!

this band is terrible, so i think the real question is that minus the occassional cool guitar riff (done by slash) why the fuck should anyone care?

Thanks Rolling Stone for the great insiders you have and the November 21st release. Ever major publication reprinted your article when you first posted it. Well now its past the date, you must feel pretty stupid. Your insider should have atleast given you info as to why it wasnt that date so you could cover your ass. But instead, you chose to ignore it.

P.S the last “EFISH” wasn’t me.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

AXL AND UNIVERSAL RECORDS ARE STRUGGLING AGAINST EACH OTHER TO AGREE ON A PROMOTION PLAN FOR THE ALBUM. AXL AND MERCK PLANNED TO RELEASE THE ALBUM IN 2006 WITH LITTLE OR NO ADVERTISING AND WITH NO RELEASE DATE (STILL MIGHT HAPPEN). HOWEVER, UNIVERASAL WANTS TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR AND USE THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THE YEAR TO ADVERTISE THE SHIT OUT OF IT CORRECTLY.

veering off topic: bono and vedder can’t sing at all anymore, and their new music blows.

I don’t mind that Axl is on his quest to outdo Peter Gabriel and Stanley Kubrick, and I think the leaked material we heard this year was absolutely fantastic, but they are on a “chinese democracy tour” (their second) and they promised the album this year.

Either apologize for the album not coming out this year and explain the delay, or release the thing. Please.

No rolling stone. Axl will not mention your pop/rap rag (or the dumb author) in a song. Quit trying to raise Axl’s feathers in hopes he will release a “Get in the Ring 2″ song with your dumbass names in it.

There seems to be a reject from Metal Sludge running around in here calling people F@cktards and posing as other commenters. Great moderation on this site! And HORRIBLE reporting on this issue. Bumblefoot goes and does something nice for fans, and some loudmouth paraphraser rips into him. GNR are in the midst of a great tour. It seems to really chaffe some people that Axl is getting attention again. Like there aren’t bigger assholes in the world (Bush, Osama, Michael Richards…).

Like Kurt Cobain said, GNR are a bunch of wanna be glam rock losers with no talent.

Umm kurt never said that and as a matter of fact – he liked gnrs music.

If your precious kurt cobain is so great, please tell me how his new music is doing? oh wait, hes not making any.

the article by austin skaggs in which Axl says that it will be out “this year, sometime fall or late fall” (”GNR Take New York”) is on my wall of shame.

okay, so it’s been up there since the article was printed, but that’s beside the point…no wait..that IS my point. I had no expectations about it coming out ‘this year’ so i naturally went on with my life (as i have done for the last 6 years…).

I think they should change the name of the album to Iraq Diplomacy since Chinese Democracy has now become a joke…

get it…cause it will never happen…oh wait…maybe THAT’s why it’s named CD…poor Robin Finck

It will be out by February…I promise. It’s finished but we are dealing with a few easy to deal with issues with the record company first…

HA! “dealing with a few easy to deal with issues with the record company first…”

There are no “easy to deal with issues” in IGA!!!

THANKS AXL, GOOD LUCK IN CALI

Everybody’s got the right to their opinion on Chinese Democracy and Guns N’ Roses, but don’t attempt to justify your personal beliefs by tagging them on “everyone” or “no one”. “Everybody knows Axl’s a fraud without Slash, and nobody’s going to buy the new album, because it sucks since it’s been delayed for so long and recorded by hired Guns.” Hate to burst your bubble, but Slash, Duff, and Steven were all “hired Guns”, too. The only members of Guns N’ Roses that have any right to claiming ownership of the name are Izzy Stradlin and Axl Rose, and Izzy’s already given his blessing to these “hired guns”. More people are behind the new band and the album than some people would be inclined to believe. If people like “Better”, “Madagascar”, and “Catcher In The Rye”, it’s not because Robin Finck snuck up behind them and gave them a lobotomy in their sleep: it’s because Axl’s talent still burns, and he knows exactly how to keep the spirit of Guns N’ Roses alive, even if the faces are different. Put “There Was A Time” on a playlist full of Guns N’ Roses songs, and I dare you to tell me that it sticks out like a sore thumb! The truth is that the man who created masterpieces such as “Rocket Queen”, “November Rain”, and “Sweet Child O’ Mine” has managed to stay true to a vision he began to form on a Greyhound from Indiana to L.A. all those years ago. Some got it but lost it, some gained it along the way, but Axl’s vision has always presented incredible and unmatchable results in the long run. Nobody saw the groundbreaking and awesome results “Use Your Illusion” albums’ release, and I doubt any of us, even the most die-hard Guns N’ Roses fans, can begin to know how good “Chinese Democracy” will really be. Just give it some time: art takes work, and it’s not always so cut and dry as the simple departure of a band member or not having the material up to snuff. There are many more issues behind an album’s release that could prevent it from reaching shelves on a scheduled time. Just wait it out, for your patience will be rewarded. Axl didn’t work Slash’s ass off so that they could just crap out “Estranged”, and I damn well know he didn’t push Robin, Richard, Paul, Buckethead, Brian May, and even Bumblefoot so that they could recycle ideas that are over 20 years old. This band will have the same name, but a new identity. It will have evolved beyond simple “hard rock” to an art form rivaling Queen and Led Zeppelin. This band is Guns N’ Roses, and they’re ready to take any and all shit they’re given and force feed it back to the naysayers after delivering a swiftly placed kick in the ass to the dying music industry.

What exactly is the big deal here? I’m a fan of GNR’s past work but the band that’s together now isn’t GNR, it’s a cover band with Axel singing. Rolling Stone needs to give this whole Chinese Democracy thing a rest, who cares if it ever comes out and if it does it will never live up to the hype everyone has lifted it to. Just accept what GNR has given us in the 80’s and 90’s and move on.

J.

Moral of the story:
It doesn’t really matter. It’ll come out eventually and when it does millions of people will buy it. I mean, come on, people bought Paris Hilton’s album, at lesat Axl’s talented….And fuck slash, what the hell is he doing playing for a former American Idol’s record anyway?

Is Axl still trying to make this record sound like “The Downward Spiral,” or am I just behind the times?

No reason to flame Ron Thal… it’s not his fault… And the thing about axl that everyone forgets – his screams are still fucking epic.

PS. I’d like to see Scott Weiland try and sing ‘Rocket Queen,” guess what – he doesn’t have the RANGE!!!

Guns n Roses could have been a great rock band. This new band is.

I cannot believe how much hatred there is for Axl Rose. Even his own ex-bandmates don’t hate him like this. Most people in the know consider him brilliant and troubled. Yeah, let’s all hate on a guy with mental problems. Yeah, what a jerk; GNR only delivered the best rock record of the 80’s that has still held up. You elitists are the worst. Morons.

My concern is that the record has been worked on for about a decade. the music scene has changed many times over since then. Will CD sound outdated? I hope it doesn’t. I want Chinese Democracy to be good, but I have my doubts. For some reason I think the disc has been delayed because it doesn’t meet the high standards that people have given it. I’ll gladly eat my words though, as long as I actually get to hear the damn thing.

Let’s get one straight, GnR will never make another album. Period.

Axl can call his new project whatever he wants, but it won’t be a real GnR album.

anyone remember when guns & roses were the surprise finale of the 2002 mtv video awards? axl told kurt loder that the albun would be out soon. i laughed hysterically then. it’s not funny anymore. now it’s just sad. i find myself wondering what will happen first – the release of “chinese democracy” or christ returning to earth.

since when are GNR fans mad as hell and not going to take it anymore?…

so axl’s waiting to take over the world again? i’d buy it if he’d put it out within a year. but christ i’m getting old. i guess the kids will never have enough angst, but they at least want someone around their age telling it. what’s he got to say? it’d oughtta be, “life is…too short.” time to pay my light bill.

@dupacrash: he said to Lorder that the album WONT be out soon…. Fuck, if you’re going to try and bash Axl, atleast use FACTS to support your arguements.
Hey look, there’s a new Panic At The Disco story, go run and support the real rock n rollers of our day.

Idiots.

Come on guys… no seriously, Cum on guys. thats what i do all day while im invisioning axl rose rubbing my shoulders and getting naked for me

/jarmo

Im apart of a forum called chinesedemocracy.com It f’n sucks there im sick of gnr f**k gnr and axl poser rose

I’d rather hear THE PIGEONS OF SHIT METAL than this jagoff

You guys keep forgetting that the raw, visceral Appetite album was put out by hungry, struggling musicians on the Sunset Strip who had nothing to lose. Use Your Illusion was put out by millionaire rock stars, and sounded like a wank Barry Manilow goes metal craptacular. Chinese Democracy is being recorded by rock and roll’s very own Howard Hughes. Move on everyone. You’re only going to be disappointed. While you’ve been waiting for this album to come out, thousands of amazing bands have been playing the Strip, and dive bars everywhere, dying to be heard.

yeah i wanna thank RS to for the great insiders you have and the November 21st release. -why don’t you shut up if you don’t know anything

Amazing album nam. I was on an Interstate bus recently and a couple Chinese guys were delivering a G-string stripped wearing a track suit. I just NOW REALISED they got the idea from Hanuman, the novel available above. But never in print. So whaaaaaa?
http://www.heat herjeane.com

hmm well considering the amount of posts this topic has had…i guess any of you who keep asking “who cares” pretty much answered your own question EVERYONE CARES

axl you are by far a real piece of shit!!!!!!! trust me you suck, your fucking life sucks and that chinese democrasy shit is fake!! the old guns n roses rules but you …… just fucking die man, just fucking die…… liar..

Ha ha ha….

Who cares.

right from the get go, there was no Axl and GnR until Slash arrived with Adler and Duff. Now this three have gone with their guns and the rose is wilting in the CA sun. No one messes with Slash N Duff!

Axl’s band just cancelled a show in Fresno (Dec. 13th) due to poor tickets sales.

/jarmo

Ok-the “release” date for Chinesse Democracy -Nov. 21st-has come and gone but I,for one,am interested to hear what the new CD will sound like.Yes,there is no Slash,no Duff,no Matt Storm and,yes,it’s a new line up in Guns N Roses now but,as the saying goes,good things come to those who wait.I know these RS message boards are for people to bitch,gripe,and complain about anything and they are also used for people just to post period but,for the people who say “Who Cares?” and bitch about Axl-you obvisiously care because why else would you put posts on here?And the new G N R line up is NOT a cover band.as long as Axl is still in the band and still singing in the band,it is NOT a cover band.Or a tribute band.It’s still Guns N Roses.

axl rose is the emperor and in the end whats matter is what in his mind and the way he wants things to go.
chinese democracy starts now and there is no place for betraters.
only true fans will get a part in the history!!!

w.axl rose-”i believe in israel”
prague 13/06/06

was there an official release date?

NO,NEVER!

This article is a total crap, gnronline was geffen’s gnr site, you shuld mention that it’s an italian website, so italian speaking fans are on strike! big deal! they’re just jealous that Jarmo is in good terms with Gn’R.

It’s not Guns N’Roses anymore. The essence of the band is lost.
Now, it’s a travesty. A karaoke.

Move on Axl ! We’re not in the eighties anymore. Appetite for Destruction was great, but that was 20 years ago.

/jarmo

to who said that Kurt Cobain liked GNR is a complete no nothing here is kurt’s quote about Axl,this is an exerpt from wikipedia,Rose had been a big fan of Nirvana and twice asked singer Kurt Cobain to have Nirvana open for Guns N’ Roses for the second leg of the Use Your Illusion Tour, which Cobain declined. After declining Rose’s offer, Cobain began to talk about Guns N’ Roses and Rose to numerous media sources, claiming that “they are untalented and that Rose is a homophobic loser”. Rose challenged Cobain to a fight during the 1992 MTV Video Music Awards after Cobain’s wife, Courtney Love, jokingly asked Rose to be the godfather to their daughter, Frances Bean. Rose commented later of Nirvana that “They would rather sit home and shoot heroin with their bitch wives than tour with us. And you know what, nirvana still sells records you nitwit, in fact kurt is the hightest grossing post humous musician of all time, even over Elvis. So you can shove you credibility up your a$$

Oh yeah and by the way that duech bag I metioned in my last comment is Mike 27 and this is what he said,”Like Kurt Cobain said, GNR are a bunch of wanna be glam rock losers with no talent.

Umm kurt never said that and as a matter of fact – he liked gnrs music.

If your precious kurt cobain is so great, please tell me how his new music is doing? oh wait, hes not making any.” A complete idiot, why don’t you look up the facts before you open your f@gotty mouth moron.

I know you’re right dude, I was just checking out wikipedia to see if what you quoted is true and it is, kurt also said,”His role has been played for years. Ever since the beginning of rock and roll, there’s been an Axl Rose. And it’s just boring. It’s totally boring to me. Why it’s such a fresh and new thing in his eyes is obviously because it’s happening to him personally and he’s such an egotistical person that he thinks that the whole world owes him something.” Kurt was right.

nugnr fans are always lying to defend their idol, the Caucasian Michael Jackson, aka Waxy Rose.

… in a world dominated by Vince Neil, Bret Michaels, Bon Jovi, etc., Axl Rose seemed a genius … in world post Reznor, Vedder, Bono, Cobain, Cornell, etc … he is just a spoiled diva with no cause. Fans need not take his crap …

I feel for Izzy, Slash, Duff and, yeah, even Steven.

Move on … this album won’t outsell Fergie.

THIS IS Guns N’ Roses deal with it! Axl Rose is god.I dont see too many fans mad as hell. And u stupid fu*ks who bitch about hes look, have u seen Slash lately? CD is going to blow ur haterbutts out. So “fu*k you”
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GUNS N’ ROSES MANAGER SPEAKS OUT (from Blabbermouth)
[Merck] Mercuriadis disagrees with the fans. “There is no truth to either claim [that the album exists or its December release date] as evidenced by the fact that our record company keeps sending us out on tour every four years. It’s pure fiction,” he told MTV.com.
I normally do not respond to the so-called fans sitting home at their computers instead of going to our shows but a number of your posts have been brought to my attention today and I feel it is right to take the time to dispel the positive speculation through a statement of facts:

- Keep going to our shows!
- Axl Rose loves you. Especially Matt13. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/s miley-heart.gif)
- There is no album.
- ‘Chinese Democracy’ has been pushed back a few months.

We hope to find another way to fuck you over in the future. Thanks for even trying to believe us. It sincerely is much more than appreciated. 2007 will certainly be an interesting year for Guns N’ Roses. Get on board and fuck off.”

/jarmo

whatever

/jarmo

axl rose = guns n roses
for all the haters and the poor people who wants to fuck with true CHINESE DEMOCRACY believers fans….well fuck off

david rose
israel

It’s not Guns N’Roses.

It’s a cover band. It’s fake.

“veering off topic: bono and vedder can’t sing at all anymore, and their new music blows”

odd post. i’ve seen both bands in the last few years, and i can assure you that both men still sound very good.

Also, I’m not even that big of a GNR fan, but I will be buying chinese democracy. It just has this mystique about it that’s hard to describe. It’s been shrouded in secrecy and closely gaurded…….it’s as if was painted in Leonardo Da Vinci’s “the last supper” and now a bunch of morons are misinterpreting the art work and saying that axl moved to france and had a family with mary magdalene.

I’m sure it will sell big. They need to promote it right though…..big single and all that, though, if they expect it to do anything. 90% of casual music fans have forgotten all about guns.

I’m a brazilian fan e I’m sad about it.I was waiting this album for seven years.Axl you are a stupid!!! I always was a fan of GNR but you disapointed me. you don’t diserve the fans the you have.Don’t go to the shows!!! fans of the world, until the album!!!!together we are strong!!! fuck you axl stupid rose!!!i don’t wait one more tuesday your son of bitch!!!

It needs to be said again, in case the point has not been made.

Rolling Stone: Thanks a fucking lot for that false release date, pricks.

I don’t care that it says in the article that Merck (Hired Guns N’ Rose’s manager) refused to confirm the date. You spelled out ‘a rumored firm release date of November 21st’. Rumored and firm…hmmm..

Again, screw you guys. Picking on their guitar player for saying (correctly) that no info is better than unreliable info. He’s right. Shame on you.

Scott Weiland was recently pimping Velvet’s upcoming CD in an interview on MTV.com, when he had a slip of the tongue…referring to Velvet Revolver as STP…he caught himself, saying it was a Freudian slip…

This guy is such a retard, he still thinks he’s recording with STP.

F U AXL! YOU’RE THE MOST UNPROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN EVER!
U BREAK UP A BAND AND NOW U BURY EVEN MORE DOWN THAT BAND…

If we cant have Chinese Demochracy, then can we have the follow up album to it?
I vote we call it colonoscopy, cause thats what we will all receive before this phantom CD arrives. Didn’t Axl cancel a show in September, so they could finish cleaning up an album issue?
If not Colonoscopy then how about Chinese water torcher?

who cares, at least scott writes his own lyrics. if you’re with a band for that long I think we’ll except the minor slip.

I just saw them in Portland on monday. They were just incredible. Axl sang his ass off and the guys were super tight. Bach rocked as well. The best song for me was “Better”. That song just gives me goosebumps and Axl wailed like there was no tomorrow. I think CD will easily be the best hard rock album of the 00’s. Period.

hahah EDDIE VEDDER,you know whats funny? If you want to talk about album sales..GNR has outsold Pearl Jam between the years of 1991-2006, and Pearl Jam had what like over 50 cds come out including all those bootlegs? GNR hasnt made a record in 15 years and their old stuff is selling more than Pearl Jams new releases…oh and get off the Kurt Cobain bullshit…WHO listens to Nirvana anymore?? really?? Its like listening to Mudhoney, Soul Asylum, or Weezer…lmao….come on now….and the only reason Kurt beat Elvis this year was because the Nirvana catalog was sold, next year Kurt wont even be in the top 10, and Elvis will be number 1 again…its just a phase…much like grunge was….

new babyshambles EP is out… who’s axl?

i think readytorock should curl up under his/her bed and pretend its 1987…. dummy.

is everyone in Portland a f@cking moron?

in response to “blah Axl Blah”…are you a moron? ALL of the artists you listed were around when GNR was touring…and GNR outsold all of them….Cobain, VEdder, Bono, and Reznor.and Cornell…actually Cornell and Reznor were opening up for them on those tours….well??

Hey John, they may have opened for them but they are all 100% better then those fcks GNR could ever hope to be…… i puked a little when i read your comment….dont type any more, you’re an idiot.

buy these albums; dirty pretty things, arctic monkeys, the raconteurs (anything by J.White)….. you’ll forget all about that poser W. Rose

GNR are a generic brand of music that was an offspring of hair metal i.e. Poison, Ratt, White snake and any other of those crappy bands. John is a moron. I’ll tell you who still listens to Nirvana, EVERYBODY. Kurt was more of an artist, had a badass rock persona like jim morrison and his music overall will kill his. GNR has alot of filler songs. Listen to Nevermind and In Utero, then kill yourself because you’re an idiot. Pearl Jam are way better than GNR also. They are actually musicians. They can improvise and put on one hell of a show, Eddie can sing better, take care of himself better write better, hell he even releases albums f@ggot. And by the way, I would rather listen to the blue album and pinkerton over those generic singles off of appetite. The reason Chinese Democracy isn’t out yet is because axl’s writers and composers aren’t finished writing and composing LMAO!!! Axl has no creative talent, kurt said it, scott said it and Axle proved it. He’s fat, can’t sing, and washed up. Get a life john. By the way, you are a dueche bag

well said Satan….. but fuck you too….. thats how i roll.

I think that Axl is just being a little baby. He should release the thing and get it over with.

All this bickering from jaded GNR fans and ex-fans is more entertaining than CD will be. When/if CD comes out the reviews will be of the “not a masterpiece, but still good” variety. This is because I can’t think of one album that’s taken this long to come out that was actually worth the wait (most recent example: The Endless Wire; the exception is “Smile” because most of the material was written in the 60’s.) My guess is The Stooges’ new one will get the same kind of reception. The Stooges blew their wad of greatness a long time ago. It doesn’t make them has-beens (they’re still supremely relevant), but Raw Power can’t be topped: it’s that simple.

Every great album needs a set-in-stone deadline and some kind of adversity in the work environment. Axl has neither. Record company low-lifes who enforce deadlines and quality control are often a necessary if regrettable piece of the equation.

Axl’s just toying with everybody. The title “Chinese Democracy” should have been everybody’s first clue that this is meant to be an ongoing chain-yanker. Yeah, he has new songs, but new songs? Those are a dime-a-dozen in rock, where bands write and record new songs as much as they jerk off to Jenna Jameson. I can’t believe all this hope just because Axl has recorded some new songs and some titles of other, hypothetical songs, have been leaked.

Another thing: GNR, as a relevant rock band, is finished. They are a nostalgia band, a cover band. They are KISS without the consistency.

Can Axl say or do anything to possibly frighten the religious middle-American right like the original incarnation of GNR that recorded Appetite, One in a Million and Use Your Illusion? No. Without that, they’re just a harmless hard rock act that distracts the kiddies from their 9-5 push button jobs, playing dependable, predictable rock songs to middle America. They’re Bon Jovi, Motley Crue, Metallica and any number of hard rock acts that play your mid-level venue. They’re a blip on the radar, they’re nothing.

That is soooo funny … Here’s all I have to say:

After Appetite for Destruction was released bands like Trixter and Danger Danger still got signed and were pretty successful … after Cobain, Vedder, Cornell, etc., all of these bands died … Guns N Roses was one of them.

Since then we have had bands like The White Stripes, The Killers, Foo Fighters, The Strokes, Vines, etc … yet Axl still thinks himself the savior of Rock n Roll. LOL!

Axl’s effect in the late 80′ and 90’s was so minimal that Trixter and Winger still had huge runs …

Please … Axl is very much overrated.

the next great rock n roll band is playing their parent’s garage right now … Axl is done.

the only thing i hate more the guns n roses is that kid blah axl blah…. get in the ring mutherfuker and i’ll kick your bitchy little ass punk

i dont like you, i just hate you, i’m gonna kick your ass

Based on some of these posts, it seems impossible to like PJ, nirvana and GnR. I love all of these bands, and while Axl’s project is not a true GnR album, I still want to hear it. Something tells me that Mr.Rose still has some tricks up his sleeve.

At least Ron Thal cares enough to say something to the fans. You cant come down on him like that though, Im sure he is only allowed to say so much, and thats what he did. I have met Ron on several occasions and he is a class act. If he could say more, I know he would. The writer of this article should back off a little.

Blah Axl Blah is uninformed. Nirvana did not mean the end of GNR. GNR broke up at their peak in 1994. Nirvana and GNR co-existed at the top of the music world from 1991 through 1994. GNR marked the end of glam, not Nirvana. Don’t even try to compare Winger or Trixter to GNR. None of their songs survived. Sweet Child, Paradise City, Jungle, Patience, November Rain, Live n Let Die, Don’t Cry, U Could b Mine, Knockin on Heavin’s Door, etc have all survived and are still played commonly on the radio. Name one song from Winger or Trixter……and I can guarantee you that 15 years from now, none of Stikes, Strokes, or Vines songs will have survived. GNR were around for just 6 years and sold over 90 million records world wide and their music (created 20 years ago) still survives easily. I’m right and Blah Axl Blah is wrong

SATAN thinks Cobain and Nirvana as well as PJ are better musicians than GNR? Not so much. GNR was so much more complex than Nirvana. Axl has much more range than Cobain’s monotone voice, and Slash was hands down more legit than Nirvana’s guitarists. You can’t argue that. Nirvana was good and started the grunge genre, but talent wise, no where near GNR.

I meant stripes not strikes

They’d better release it by February or else all the hubub built up by their tour and hints (more like lies) of the album coming out in 2006 will have died and it’ll be like… well every other year since Slash left the band where nobody even cares about Axl.

No one ever mentioned complexity idiot, I said that nirvana has better songs, and so does Pearl Jam. Stone Gossard and Mike Mcgready play circles around slash, and Kurt’s voice is way better than that scratchy weasel voice that axl has.

Axl Rose…..Worst singer, worst songwriter of the last twenty yeras. Duh…you think he was REALLY playing piano that time on stage w/ Elton John? G&R got LUCKY! Ok? LUCKY with the 1st album. Who were they up against? White Lion? Stryper? Poison? Please……the guy smacked around Stephanie Seymour for shit’s sake….

Why don’t you all go fuck yoursleves? This album will blow your socks off, and I’ll be releasing it on Feb. 14th. Seriously….what a bunch of fucking retards in this room…

btw….Slash has tried to get back in the band numerous times…it ain’t happening. I am G&R.

Chinese Democracy? Yeah, right… It should be called “Appetite for Procrastination”.

I love Nirvana as much as the next guy, always have. I owned Bleach in 1989. That being said, people who point to Nirvana as a reason to hate GNR or Axl or whoever are just stupid. I think it’s a bs class hatred. GNR is considered metal (they aren’t), Nirvana is considered alt/punk whatever, and more acceptable to love than metal, all metal sucks, GNR is metal and talked bad about St. Cobain (who killed himself in part to get away from his fans, remember), so GNR sucks. You know who sucks? You people who can’t love both. I’ll be the first to say GNR had one and a half good albums, but they were UNBELIEVEABLE. That is one half more than the Sex Pistols, btw. Make no mistake, this is about class, and education, and GNR being perceived as butt rock stooges. You all are small-minded…

you could be mine

GNR are or were awesome. Regardless of how long it takes for this album to come out it will be good. It may not be what has been built up in the minds of all the fans who have been waiting, but it will be solid. Axl Rose has been sitting on these damn songs so long that they are hardly going to be “new” material. The bottom line is that the guy is a perfectionist and a bit of a freak, but that is in part what makes him so damn good at what he does. Relax! The album will come out and it will be good, just don’t expect anything that is going to change the world

Judge lest ye be judged JDEE. by the way kurt killed himself because of pressure, his stomach ailment, a drug addiction and the biggest thing is that he was married to Courtney, get your facts straight IDIOT. GNR is buttrock by the way, if you think they can even compare to Pearl Jam and Nirvana you’re mistaken. How can you so easily put your faith in some white trash redneck who has other people write all the music for him. He’s basically a fat bastard who resorts to wearing football jerseys onstage to hide his lard, and his cornrows are embarrasing, I thought I was looking at Lady Sovrern, but no, it turned out to be axl. And your class theory sucks, I just dislike GnR. They should just call the band Roses because there are no Guns left, real ones anyways.

Satan is a clown. I bet he’s a bleeding heart liberal too. Judging by the way he has no valid points at all, just lame name calling. White trash? u can say that but what about Cobain? Lets face it, song for song gnr has better songs. Can I prove it….probably not, but most experts would agree. One things for sure, GNR SOLD OVER 90 MILLION ALBUMS WORLD WIDE TO NIRVANA’S 50 MILLION OR SO AND APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION STILL SELLS 10s of thousands of records a week and their 2004 greatest hits (with no promotion) is still in the top 100 on the billboard chart. Does that mean they’re a better band? tough to prove, but it proves more people probably agree with me than Satan. As much as I feel bad saying it, NIRVANA WOULDN’T BE NEAR AS POPULAR IF COBAIN HADN’T KILLED HIMSELF.

when you stop blowing JDEE then you can talk. I don’t care about album sales, if that were the case i’de listen to the backstreet boys or britney spears, but luckily for me, I actually care about what I listen to, and album sales is based on whatever is popular to more people. I happen to think that axl has one of the worst voices I’ve ever heard, I also think Slash and the boys also wrote appetite and everything else, I also think that is why there is no album yet, Axl has no creativity, that’s why he averages about 1 complete song per year for this album, If I want to listen to a good band now a days, I will gladly pop in some audioslave or PJ, I will not subject myself to garbage like this, and by the way, I’m a republican gaylord

Satan, Stone Gossard and Mike Mcgready play circles around Slash? who’s Gossard and Mcgready? Well, I think i’ve heard of mcgready but let’s face it. EVERYONE knows who slash is. You go up to the average person on the streets and ask who Gossard and Mcgready are. Then ask them who Slash is. Nuff said. Slash has just a few more legit riffs than your no-name Gossard and Mcgready. People obviously know who PJ and Nirvana are, but both bands are known for their lead singers, not their guitarist. Oh yeah, Axl would have no problem singing “Smells Like Teen Spirit” or “All Apologies.” Imagine Cobain trying to sing “Sweet Child” or “Paradise” Don’t even try to compare the vocal range or quality of Axl and Cobain.

Nirvana? Pearl Jam? GNR? The answer is 1. Niravan 2. Pearl Jam 3. GNR. I’m way to lazy to explain why Nirvana is better. They revolutionized rock music, period. Made either the best or second best (perhaps beside radiohead’s ok computer) of the decade. GNR made the definative album of their genre’s era (appetite for destruction). The album practically defined the entire metal scene. This however was GNR’s one true masterpiece. Use your illusion 1 and 2 were good albums, but lacked the focus and conformity woven throughout appetite for destruction. Everything after that had to do with spagetti or the chinese. These guys arent even close to pearl jam as far as good albums go, but their influence is what makes them stay in the same league as them, not to metion they released more succesful songs than pearl jam did. (too bad for them i still hold the belief that the album must be listened to all the way through and treated as a piece of art as a complete whole. Pearl jam released their masterpiece “Ten” in 1991, the same year nirvana’s “nevermind” dropped. Ten actually ended up outselling niravan. Not to mention that pearl jam is the only band remaining from seattles original “grunge” scene. During this time Pearl Jam has become the biggest cult band in the country, releasing an array of lvie albums surpassing everyone but the like of the grateful dead and phish. After that they released the visceral “VS.” in the face of pupularity releasing no singles maintain credibility, although these songs recieved heavy airplay anyways. Not wuite a masterpiece, but a really good album. Then they released the sprawling excellent vitalogy, which some consider a masterpiece, some do not, i feel thats its pretty close. In any case, an excellent album. 3 albums in, they have beaten gnr in the albums part. The hit singles, surely not. Too bad the comparison really stops there. Its what peral jam did after that, and what gnr didnt do during that time period. Pearl Jam went on to release mostly accalimed albums, even a top 5 single when they remade “Last Kiss.” Followed by their most recent album “Pearl Jam” which was their best sicne vitalogy. Gnr (i should really jsut refer to them as axl rose, because i cant hold the other memebrs (of the original band) responsible for his prolific assault on failure) has spent more money than most of us will see in a lifetime making “chinese democracy.” So while Gnr may have had more talent and a better guitarist (slash), they self-destructed due to their “charasmatic” lead singers antics. Perhaos axl just made a mistake though, i mean he cant be that bad. I mean perhaps he reached a moment of clarity, an emotional triumph, a burst of recognition as he screamed along with perry farrel on the classic jane’s addiction song “idiots rule”! (this is a dramatization, kids should not try this at home)

Listen to Nirvana on Live and Unplugged, there’s your range dickhead. Who cares about range when the voice sucks. I’m listening to Chinese Democracy right now, and I swear to you, it sounds ok, but this sucks compared to Appetite for Destruction, the album is mediocrity at it’s best. Trust me, this album is delayed because it’s lacking anything resembling a single or a great, really great song, you will not find one.

Nirvana* (There you go children,no fretting shalth occur now.)

Is anyone else tired of every discussion including some retard who thinks Pearl Jam is the greatest rock band in history? These guys actually tried to go back to mainstream in leading up to their recent album release and still got their asses kicked by Tool big time. By the way, Pearl Jam’s openning up for G&R on the European leg of the tour in ‘07.

CMon…….you’re not listening to Chinese Democracy. You may be listening to a few low quality DEMOS. DEMOS. Wait for the finished product. Legitimate sources say they’re tinkering with 30 to 35 songs and deciding which one’s to put on the first album, vs the second album. A finalized version of Better will be over the airwaves soon. I am right.

Chinese Democracy will never see the light of day. Axl Pose has been stringing GnR fans along for how long now? Besides, you can hardly call the current incarnation of the band Guns and Roses. Until Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steven are back in the band its not Guns and Roses.

tool is a good band, but everysong sounds the same, like thier bass player is on repeat. Once again, album sales do not define a great band i.e. good charlotte, simple plan, NSYNC etc.
a great a band and a great album are just that. You people are so stupid to think that a band is what they sell, pearl jam turned it’s back on the mainstream, and they hardly got their asses kicked, for barely any promotion and download sites I think they did alright, check out they’re ticket sales for a better way to judge them based on money if that’s how you credit a band. I’m still listening to Chinese Democracy, almost every song sounds like something I’ve heard before from at least 10 other bands,that said, I’m going to bed. Gnite all, don’t be upset, axl’s not, soon he’ll have your money!

yeah sorry i have to agree, theresno way in fuck your listening to chinese democracy. If you had it, people would be at your front door step beating their wives holding a beer screaming your name.

Correction: Axl’s label will have your money.

you know…when you post on websites like these you are bound to come across stupid people…and Bilo you are by far the king….When you say Soundgarden is better than Guns N Roses……i just dont know what to say to you….seek help….

Before Appetite:
Axl+Izzy+Tracii Guns+Rob Gardener & “Ole. = GUNS N’ ROSES

After Appetite:
Axl+Izzy+Slash+Duff +Steven = GUNS N’ ROSES

After Illusions
Axl+Gilby+Slash+Duf f+Matt+Dizzy = Guns N’ Roses

After 1994

Axl+Buckethead+Paul Tobias+Josh Freese+Tommy Stinson+Robin Finck+Richard Fortus+Ron Thal+Brain+Frank Ferrer+Chris Pitman=MASSIVE GAY BANGING SEX EVERYNITE

I dont even think God himself hasnt heard anything on Chinese Democracy because there is NO such album

lmao with the post by its simple math.

chinese democracy, no matter how good it is, will be a disappointment: it’s been too long a wait. trust me, IF it ever comes, everyone will say “all these years… for this?”

Enough with the Axl vs. Kurt bullshit.

They are both geniuses. Kurt was one of the most gifted SONGWRITERS of all time, Axl is one of the most gifted ROCK STARS of all time. Two different categories, kids.

Why don’t you compare The Police (songwriters)and AC/DC (rock stars) while you’re at it?

Kurt was an anti-rock star. Axl is a diva. He is an asshole, an egomaniac, and a psycho all in one. But I don’t care what you say…in the world of all-time greatest rock n’ roll singers, there’s Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler, and Axl Rose. Period. Hasn’t been a great rock star singer since.

Sure, there’s been great singers (Layne Staley, Chris Cornell), and great songwriters (Jack White, Rivers Cuomo), but none have the full package that Axl and Steven Tyler have – amazing showmanship in combination with incredible unique wide-ranging voices.

It’s why the world allows him to some degree to show up as “Guns N’ Roses” with 7 employees. If he sold 1,500 tickets a night, you could say no one cares. He’s obviously still relavent for the time being. He sure is doing a good job pissing his audience off lately, and that’s what he’s always done best.

My prediction: Chinese Democracy either comes out 12/19 or 12/26 as a surprise…or the label sues the fuck out of Axl and essentially force a reunion.

Dude, I just want to hear this album already. I dont care how it is. Just release it already!!!!!!!!!!!!!

please people stop comparing nirvana to guns and roses that’s a joke. i mean nirvana has writne 2-3 good song s thats it, AFD alone is better than everything nivana has ever made

you are sorely mistaken if you think Nirvana has 3 good songs, that idea is laughable. Do you think they would have been that huge with 3 good songs, that’s like saying the beatle’s had 3 good songs, like it or not, they were the beatles of the 90’s, and GnR was just another band with a few good songs, you must be on drugs, so I’ll let you slide, just find a safe place and don’t stand up to fast, the drugs will wear off soon, hopefully.

not bad Jeff

Satan is a woman.

Sorry Satan. I don’t know you or the first thing about you, except for the rant you spelled out on this site. Nor do I have any idea why Kurt did what he did. For the record, neither do you. Why? Because unless you knew him, neither of us did, so neither of us know why he did what he did. Same thing goes for Axl really. He probably is the world’s biggest jerk, but all we have to go on is what we know from the media, and who knows what the media really knows. Especially these days, the media is just one giant editorial without any real substantial news. I stand by my take on Axl though. I’ve never seen people hate a rock star like people hate Axl, and I really don’t get it. You hate his music? That’s valid, but to resort to personal attacks just doesn’t make any goddamn sense to me, same goes for any celeb, btw. As for the class thing, say what you will, it still reminds me of the preppy jocks from the eighties piling on the burnout who doesn’t make sense to them, dress like them, or whatever. Based only on what I’ve read, Dave Grohl is like the quarterback of the football team, and Axl is the prez of the chess club, these days, and I’m not going to be one of the crowd, and it sucks, because people make fun of the fact that I still admire Axl.