despite the obvious lead singer issues the band endured with Hagar and Cherone in the 90s, Van Halen is a first ballot inductee without question. Roth needs to be there as their frontman during the induction ceremonies.

Pat Benatar!

Van Halen, Stooges, R.E.M., Patti Smith, and Grandmaster Flash

Patti Smith and the Stooges should’ve been in a long, long time ago.

It will be a travesty if REM is denied for any reason at all, I don’t care what it is. They are shoo-ins.

R.E.M.? W.H.Y?

The Ronettes, Van Halen, Iggy and the Stooges, Patti Smith, and Grandmaster Flash

Most of you are too young to remember the impact Dave Clark 5 had. Never a critical success but damn they sounded good on the radio and in the car. Springsteen’s a fan and so should all of us!

I still think it’s a travesty that Bruce Springsteen is in, but not the E Street Band who are just as important to his music as he is. (Listen to Nebraska, then to The Wild… The Innocent) And what about MC5 or KISS for that matter?

Eddie may have launched a thousand guitarists, but the other 5 artists you mention are more important to rock then VH ever was or will be. Van Halen probably should be in the hall, but I feel they’ll go the way of KISS and have to bitch and moan to get inducted. Such is life.

Side note, how are the Ronettes not in the hall already? And the only way Chic gets in is if Jann and the induction committee remember good times doing blow to Chic tunes back in the day.

What did Patti Smith ever do? I’m not saying she doesn’t deserve the attention she’s gotten over her career, but “Hall of Fame” usually notes some kind of special achievement or contribution. What exactly did she do?

I agree with the Rolling Stone list, and may I add: What about The News York Dolls?

cant think of a reason the stooges arent already in,,,

What about Rush?

I had the pleasure of working with that hack Patti Smith. The only reason she should get in is so Iggy Pop could take a dump on her face during the ceremony.

the ronnettes, rem, and van halen for sure

REM, Patti Smith, Stooges, Ronettes. Not so sure about Van Halen, Grandmaster Flash, or the Dave Clark 5. I guess with the Ronettes it’s a question for me of, group or producer? There’s not a lot of separation there when you get to a Phil Spector project.

Two words…Tom Waits

VH basically created a genre of music, albeit a bad one. This is a no-brainer. It is also a no-brainer that Dave should go, not the other hacks

Is Yes in the HoF? They should be.

It will never happen, but Rush deserves to get in. For obvious reasons that shouldn’t even need discussing.

The Ronnette’s?? For what? They didn’t write their music, they simply sang and only a handful of songs that anyone knows. Patti Smith is also not Hall of Fame material. Van Halen, of course; REM, definitely. And I support The DAve Clarke Five, having grown up at that time, believe me, they rocked!!
What about ELO???

Van Halen? YES. Van Hagar? NO.

REM are by far the best band out of all those mentioned here… They were one of the first indie bands to have commercail success and they are still around which is saying a lot seeing as many of their counterparts are either dead or not making any music at all, Patti Smith made a hand full of good albums and one great album “Horses” and I think she was punk a little before punk came along just like The Stooges who invented the punk element along with The Velvet Underground… The Stooges were not the most skilled band in the world but their albums and stage shows were amazing sue to the energy of the band and Iggy’s undying commitment to the fans… The Ronnetts should devly be in as well, they are a great group and I see no reason for their exclusion from the hall of fame, as for Van Halen, they didnt write the best lyrics or create eloquent masterpiece after masterpeice but I believe Eddie Van Halen is an amazing guitar player and for what they do, they do it well… or did it well anyways… David Lee Roth was a quentisentail frontman with a lot of carizma… so all in all it looks like a good class this year..

umm…there are six bands/artists on your list, not five

The Guess Who!

REM has to wait if The Dolls aren’t in yet.. Also, let’s not get Hall of Fame confused with great and commercially successful!
VH definitely, The Stooges-do you have to ask? The Ronnettes-I’ll pass-outside of Phil’s work for them, what have you done for me lately? DC5-yes, Grandmaster Flash-awesome but not worthy, PATTI SMITH JUST NEEDS TO FUCKOFF ALREADY, Not worth the paper her vote would be written on! Also Nile Rodgers is awesome, as well as the rest of the band, but not worthy – WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THE PANTHEON HERE, MUTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!

not a big r.e.m. fan… but van halen and the stooges for sure.

chic desrves to be in the HOF more than Van Halen. Has anyone on this board actually listened to any of their music? It sucked balls.

If Grandmaster Flash is in, Chic have to be. The bassline to “Good Times” was the hook behind “Rapper’s Delight,” the first commercially successful rap single. No Chic, no rap. R.E.M are one of my very favorite bands of all time ever, but I’m not sure if they deserve to be inducted of ahead of either the Stooges, Patti Smith (although seeing her and Stipe share the stage would be cool, being as she’s his idol and all), Van Halen (can’t believe those words passed my keyboard), or Chic/Flash. Don’t know much about the Ronettes but they’ll probably get in by default since they’re one of the more important “girl groups” and The Hall has a Jones for doo wop.

And of course the biggest travisty is that Arthur Lee and Love are not in the hall. What a joke.

who is grandmaster flash??

Tom Waits.

1)He was recently voted #4 on a list of the top 100 living songwriters behind Bob Dylan, Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen. That’s lofty company. We won’t even discuss the multitudes he was ahead of that are already in.

2)He has yet to cease putting out remarkable music.

3)His first album was released over 30 years ago.

…and now Van fucking Halen will be in before him on the strength of about four decent albums. Fuck that. The RRHOF should cease to exist until Tom Waits gets his fucking due.

I do believe Adventures In Babysitting features the Ronettes, doesn’t it?

I think Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five had the most important Hip Hop single ever, “The Message,” but that’s it.

I don’t think REM will accept membership unless Patti Smith gets in first. I seem to remember Stipe claiming her as a big influence. I hope that the UK bands of the early 80’s get their due soon… Joy Division, ?New Order, etc. REM will be the important first step.

WHO F’N CARES!

Britney Spears!

definitely patti smith…..and definitely NOT van halen….van halen is terrible

Van halen should have been in 3 years ago. Not only are they one of the greatest American rock bands ever, the gave us Edward, one of the greatest guitarists ever.
Oh yea…they have sold over 100 million LPs worldwide & 60 million in the US alone.
THEY should be in before REM or any of the rest of them.

The Beatles have said that the only band they ever felt threatened by was the Dave Clark 5.

Rush sucks balls…Neil Peart is THE most overrated drummer of all time.

REM is a shoo in for sure… The Stooges would be a welcome addition as well. The Dave Clark 5 will fit in well. And as a Classic Rock DJ I can tell you PEOPLE LOVE VAN HALEN! I don’t really like them but the real rock fans with mullets and muscle cars love Van Halen and Van Haggar. Putting the Ronettes in seems like a waste since they were singers only – will Britney or Christina be in the HOF in 20 some years? If so rock and roll is officially dead to me.

Rush, Genesis, Yes & Journey (that’s right) should all be in.

Based on the 2006 list of nominees, I think I’d go with Rush.

When did Eddie Van Halen turn in to Charlie Manson?

YES should have been in the hall of fame years ago. I can’t believe the so-so musicians that get nominated every year.

And The Pretenders, Buffalo Springfield and Talking Heads should NEVER have been inducted.

Where’s J. Geils Band???

What about KISS, Heart, Deep Purple!!

KISS, Deep Purple & Heart should all be in. The voters have always been completely out of touch, and it’s a crime that fans don’t get a vote.

How is “Kansas” still not in the Hall?!

Honestly, there’s no reason a band that is still together, tours mercilessly, has multiple gold and platinum albums, and has given us timeless classics like “Carry on Wayward Son,” “Dust in the Wind,” “The Wall,” and “Point of Know Return” should be having difficulty getting into the Hall of Fame.

the stooges are the best of the band there and it is about time they got in then R.E.M of course then patti smith then grand master flash the rest of those bands kind of suck but i guess chic would have to be the one for me. as a side not i dont think R.E.M. of van haelen or chic or grand master flash or patti smith should be getting in before lou reed. sure he made some shitty solo albums but dude come on he is lou fuckin reed

ELO not in?…hmmmm

RHOF is all about PC & pandering to groups that weren’t rockers. Miles Davis? The Four Seasons? By this definition of “roots” why not Sinatra? Mills Brothers? Mozart?

It’s a blues/jazz/r&b HOF, not R&R.

Van halen!

robert palmer not in….?

Where in the )(*& is Chicago?

REM and the stooges should get in for sure. as for who else should be nominated: um, sonic youth? joy division? the clash (hmm are they in already?)? help!?

Patti Smith? A no talent hack.

maybe the ronnetts insted of chic but vanhaelen and the dave clark 5 should never be inducted it is the hall of fame you cant just induct everybody

The Rock N Roll Hall of Fame is a sham. There are dozens of bands that have been around for more than thirty years that have not even been acknowledged. It’s almost saying bands like KISS, Rush, Genesis, The Damned, Thin Lizzy, The Cure, Joy Division, Depeche Mode, Can, Kraftwerk, Bjork (yes, her first album was in 1977 I think when she was 10 or 11) amongst others don’t count in regards to what they have contributed.

Besides, every year I see the All-Studded Jam and throw up. It’s so retarded, it’s like watching a bunch of corpses swaying around not sure if they want to fall or start moaning “Brrraaaaiins!”

The way it’s set up doesn’t work… especially having it at the Waldorf Astoria. I find that pretty retarded as well since why does rock ‘n roll that starts in a garage or basement need to be a $1500/person dinner? Isn’t that a bit hypocritical?

The way I see it, there’s no need to have something like this if you’re only going to acknowledge a handful of people per year. There’s a huge number that have contributed more than some of the bands that have been introducted. It’s time that they are acknowledged.

R.E.M., Stooges and Patti Smith? Hell, yeah. I don’t really like Van Halen, but they were influential. I would also cast ballots for the MC5 and Alice Cooper (the group, that is), to round out the Holy Trinity of Detroit Proto-Punk. For the record, that’s probably the only time you’ll see “Holy” associated with “Alice Cooper”.

R.E.M and KISS are the only acts that come to mind right now… the others ideas I have are either too recent or have already been nominated.

I think my name speaks my opinion on who should NOT get in. What about the Replacements?

Doesn’t that picture of EVH remind you of James Brown’s mugshot?

It’s gonna be a while before groups like Joy Division, The Cure or Depeche Mode get serious consideration. It’s a generational thing. I think everyone’s still working through the backlog of 50s, 60s and 70s bands (yes, I know the above mentioned bands all released their first albums in the 70s, but they are all largely identified with the 80s). So, aside from the obvious first ballot bands like U2, I think most 80s bands will have to wait their turn.

Even then, I’m not sure some of the groups will get serious consideration. Joy Division, as much as I love them, have a thin body of work (two albums). But they may have the Velvet Underground thing going for them — a band that no one cared for much when they were around, at least in the US, but gets critical cred years later thanks to revivalists bands like Interpol.

Patti Smith, Van Halen, The Stooges, R.E.M., and Chic

THe Rock Hall sucks….

Where is Harry Nilsson (best singer in R&R history) and a true rock and roll maverick , Love, Donovan (one of the orignal psychellic rockers–”Sunshine Superman” was recorded about 6-12 months before it was released, and was heard by all the other big British musicians and inspired much of the late 1966-67 work.

You could also make a case for Todd Rundgren (another Maverick), who I do not like nearly as much as the others above, but I do know that he made 2 all-time classic LPs in Something/Anything and A Wizard a True Star, and I believe Prince called TR his most influential artist.

I mean how can the Velvet Underground be in if Love (their western counterpart) is not?

What about Big Star? ARen’t they influential? Haven’t they influenced all of the alt-country of the 80’s-today including REM?

I mean surely these guys are more influential than the Dave Clark 5…etc.

And I don’t understand why RUSH (the huge sales behemouth) isn’t in or considered. THey aren’t my favorite band, sure, but they do continue to sell like crazy and do have at least 15 great songs and several decent others…and they are one of the best musician’s groups ever.

The list can go on for days.

JOURNEY AND FOREIGNER ALL THE WAY BABY!

With the recent rumors of a VH reunion with Roth, how much sense does it make for the band to use their induction as an excuse to tour and celebrate? Total.

Not a complete lock – but I can definitely see that scenario playing out.

And how about some long overdue love for Gram Parsons? The man deserves his place in the Hall.

Classs of 2007

R.E.M
Patti Smith
The Ronettes
The Stooges
Van Halen
Gram Parsons

The Stooges are rock and roll. The Ronettes and Joe Tex are cool, too. The others not so much.

I’ll be brief. I could write an essay on this but I’ll just add my list of who should be in the hall…The Cars,ELO,Jeff Lynn,Joe Jackson and Neil Diamond. I could go on.

Genesis, Marillion, and The Cure should all be in the Hall by now. As for R.E.M., I must say that I’m proud the guys will get in. That band has been making great music for a long time.

Meat Loaf…. for the Bat franchise and countless other great music the world has loved for decades

Why fans don’t vote: It’s been suggested above that Kiss, Kansas, Journey, Chicago, Robert Palmer, Foreigner and Donovan should be in the rock hall. Then someone asked who Grandmaster Flash was. ‘Nuff said.

Why the ceremony is New York and costs so much: (1) The induction ceremony is a fund raiser, not a profit-making enterprise. Besides, popular music is big business, and has been, well, forever (2) The attendees are generally either in NY or LA, and since the general public doesn’t get in, why not have it somewhere convenient. (3) The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the Rock and Roll Museum are two entities. The first is based in New York, the second in Cleveland, Ohio. Other than the “hall” being physically located inside the museum, they have different missions and different operations.

From the offered list:

Chic
The Dave Clark Five
R.E.M.
The Ronettes
Patti Smith

And I don’t know the timing of their first releases, but a couple of great suggestions above: ELO (who I personally dislike, but would argue they belong), Tom Waits and Todd Rundgren (for whom it must not be time yet because I think they’d be shoo-ins).

Peter F**king Gabriel!!!

Billy Joel, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Grateful Dead, Fleetwood Mac, & Bob Seger are in but Yes, Rush, the Cars, Brian Eno, and the Cure are not. This hall of fame is a joke.

The only person who makes any sense is the one who said, “Who
cares?” Isn’t rock supposed to be for outsiders and misfits, not those who fit comfortably in the club? Turn off the TV and go down to your local club and see some live music; don’t cost much and you might get in on the ground floor of some of these has beens and never weres. And have a club soda and f#C%ing relax.

What about the B52s…has to be before 1981, and one of the best party bands…why aren’t the on the list?
Van Halen yes,
What took the Ronettes so long to be recognized?
REM and Patti Smith for sure.
Hope they have a write-on spot on the ballot…

I hope some of these posters are joking.

Yes? Rush? KISS? That can’t be anything but sarcasm.

METAL OR ELSE!

don’t forget devo

Van Halen & Rush need to be inducted for sure in ‘07

What a fucking joke! Chic? An act like KISS has sold more albums in a week than Chic has ever sold. I mean just because they wrote “Good Times”? This RRHOF is a popularity contest with critics who, as we all know from reading Rolling Stone for years, know nothing about music!

Kiss, Van Halen, Motorhead and Judas Priest

and a big N.O. to R.E.M

Van Halen was one of the most influential rock groups of the last 30 years. They are in my mind one of the top bands of all time, without argument. They rock hard, with complex guitar, bass, and drum lines (not just guitar). They define Rock Music, and anyone who doesn’t think they should be inducted simply knows nothing about the basis of Rock n’ Roll.

ELO!!!!

Ringo Starr needs to be in there. It’s a crime that he’s not already in as a solo act. Harry Nilsson, too.

How about a little love for ELP!

1. R.E.M

2. Devo

3. The Stooges

4. Rush (I was shocked to learn they’re not already in)

5. ELO

Van Halen are the worst thing to ever happen to music. Please don’t vote them in, ever.

Sure, put Van Halen in, just for the pleasure and the privilege of kicking them right back out again. Why? because they only had a handful of good songs, and they were led around by a no-account hack screamer for far too long. (Sammy? Dave? You decide.)

Who did the original incarnation of VH influence, anyway? Well, let’s see — maybe all the hair metal bands that plagued us for 10+ years. Other acts that thought it would be cool to work in some lame dance moves into their act. And … pretty much that’s it.

They don’t deserve to be in the hall. Period.

patti smith’s group blew the roof off R-n-R at a time when most bands were spent or clueless. And what about Roxy Music – their first half dozen lps sizzled, plus gave a springboard for Eno’s career. Surprised to never hear about J. Tull in this debate!

Special note to JRock:

Quotes like this — “And The Pretenders, Buffalo Springfield and Talking Heads should NEVER have been inducted” — will win you friends and admirers everywhere you go. Keep it up.

Glad to see that so many people agree that Rush should be in the hall of fame. Even if you don’t like their music, you must agree that they are all incredible musicians and have inspired many aspiring rock players. The Grateful Dead never really had any hits but did have a huge following. Rush gets no airplay and still sells out stadiums. These guys deserve some respect.

Don | 10/30/2006, 4:47 pm EST
posts, “Patti Smith? A no talent hack.”

It’s very clear who the “hack” is.

The Specials should be in there

nirvana and the smashing pumpkins also pearl jam they should be in the hall

I’ll go with the ELO crowd.

Three words: Steve Miller Band

(’Abracadabra’ aside)

Hmmm, Grand Master Flash (and the Furious Five – yes I know of them, true fans of music are cognizant of these things) – but no RUSH? Pardon me but those humble guys from CA have endured over 30 years, evolved and maintained the highest quality. I boycott the hall

REM have to be the most influential band on the list.

i think the people asking about patti smith and why she’s there and then complaining about the hall of fame being lame, are missing the point. this isn’t a “popularity” contest or who sells a lot of records like the some of the rush fans say, but about influence.

who hasn’t been influenced by REM? kurt cobain/pearl jam/radiohead…i could go on…have all claimed REM as one of THE most important bands to them. There would not be ‘alternative’ radio with out them. name almost any band from the 90’s on—yup that one—they wouldn’t be around without REM.

anyway, REM for sure. Patti smith, dave clark five, the stooges and grandmaster flash.

Heart and E.L.O. have earned induction before Chic for crying out loud!

Flash, R.E.M., Chic, Joe Tex, Patti. The Stooges next year. Where’s Donna Summer? The Supremes are in, she should be, too. Certainly as much as the Ronettes.

Dave Clark Five? I don’t think so.
VH? A popular favorite that’s hard to argue against, I guess, but if popularity were all, we’d have to contend with Journey and Foreigner, too. But if VH get in, for god sakes not with Hagar the Horrible. He would be without question the most undeserving (nay, loathsome) honoree in the entire joint.

REM?, it’s a joke right?, after the so-called song “Everybody hurts”, these guys should be put aside, I go along with Rush and Patti Smith, they really deserve be in the hall, with less opportunites maybe Van Halen, they had a couple of good albums, but that is has far as they get

by the way, the stooges were too crazy al ELO too lazy

Van Halen for sure. Maybe R.E.M. The Stooges ok. Chic are you kidding me? What did they do besides Good Times? This is the HOF not One hit Wonder Hall. How many of you people own a Grand Master Flash cd? Thats right NO ONE.

Who are the Stooges?

All the fans of ELP, King Crimson, Yes, Gabriel’s Genesis, and the rest of the 70’s prog rockers need look no further than the Hall’s purveyers of taste and musicianship the Sex Pistols when wondering why they’re shunned. and hey, if Sammy H. wants to play he should bring along a good band, like Montrose.

What about Kiss and Genesis? What’s the problem with these guys. They are mega-legends and The Dave Clark 5 are one notch above rock and roll footnote.

1) No alternative radio without R.E.M.? They’re great but, life as we know it would’ve gone on without them.

2) “Everybody Hurts” is a great song; don’t punish them for your bad taste.

3) I don’t know about Kiss. If great marketing and theatrics qualify to get you in, then yeah. But their music is awful. Just awful.

4) Van Halen is no good. EVH is responsible for some of the most tasteless, ego centric guitar playing ever.

What about Gary Numan? He hasn’t put out anything which has made the radio in years, but his music has influenced a lot of today’s bands. Put his late 90’s album “pure” on, and you’ll be able to hear Trent Reznor’s roots.

i simply CANT believe the number of people on here bashing Van Halen. VH (with Roth) were one of the most groundbreaking bands of their era, and Edward completely reinvented how lead guitar is played, as well as how electric guitars are built. These guys are a SLAM DUNK for the Hall.

R.E.M. also belong in there as well for the way they brought the underground college alternative scene to the mainstream.

Okay, so as long as R.E.M. and Van Halen get in, I’m good…
BUT, there are tons of artists out there, that haven’t been recognized, like Ringo, Peter Gabriel, Supertramp, Forginer, Journy, etc.

I am constantly amazed that
Rolling Stone with all of its knowledge of R&R snubs one of the most infuential and bleeding edge musicians and producers of our time, Todd Rundgren.

dont even like rush, but agree they need to be inducted…. joy division should be in… as for this year, REM is a duh. VH was simply the 80’s Led Zeppelin, influencing a whole generation of one hit wonders or the rare decent hair metal band. But regardless they deserve induction. Ther were very influential for better or worst, and they hot not 4 like someone said earlier but 6 great records, and then some decent stuff after that. honestly id prefer to listen to OU812 than the new My Chemical Romance cd. At least I can listen to it without wanting to listen to a better band like Queen. Beyond REM and VH I’d say yes to the Stooges. They were the first rock band to play punk though not actually a punk band… Yes to Chic theyve had a number of hits… and for anyone who points out that theyve only had a few hits, even if that were true, lets remeber that if I had a million dollars for every hit the stooges had, id be broke. Yes to Patti Smith… she is the archetype for every female rock and roll singer that followed her. She was for women in rock what the Velvet Underground were for rock n roll in its entirety.

Tom Waits is one of the most underrated songwriters in the past 30 years. KISS and VH were responsible for millions of guys to buy guitars and start bands. Eddie and Ace are the ’70’s quinessential guitar heroes (Eddie cuz no one could play like him, and Ace because his style was accessible) Heart’s influence works in the other direction, motivating women to do the same. And the HOF without Iggy and Alice just isn’t rock and roll. Rock and roll has always been about making people uncomfortable, and in some fashion each of these artists accomplished that

90’s, your first single needs to come out 25 years before you can join the rock and roll hall of fame, and all those people were approximately 15 25 years ago, which would mean they probably weren’t making singles

Jason: Kiss sucks, straight up “detroit rock city” is their only OK song…I agree about Genesis, they should be in.

Rush should be in there they have had a massive influence with their semi-metal sound(i.e. Metallica), along with the Guess Who, Supertramp(WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY NOT IN YET?!), Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel i could go on, they all have major influences…

The Five who WILL get in…
Grandmaster Flash, REM, Van Halen, The Ronnettes, The Stooges

The Five I WANT in…
Grandmaster Flash, REM, The Stooges, DC5, Patti Smith

Mellencamp

Eddie Van Halen isn’t “egocentric”…he had the BALLS to do his own damn thing. Anyone that doesn’t give him credit for being the true guitar pioneer that he is…needs to go cry over a Morrisey song and do some emo-wrist cutting…up and down…not side to side…make it count.

todd rundgren? b52’s? chic?
are you people nuts??
it’s the rock and roll hall of fame for christs sake!!!!!
you don’t get any louder than kiss and you must have never seen van halen live…because if you have this wouldn’t even be an issue…

I second the vote for Mellancamp…!

Are the Faces in?

Is XTC in yet? If not, that’s a shame. Are the Replacements in yet? If not, that’s a tragdy.

The Pretenders should be in if only based on their incredible masterful mix of punk and new wave found on their debut which is without a doubt one of the greatest rock n’ roll debuts ever.
People who question the validity of the Stooges being inducted don’t know about rock n’ roll.
The Stooges are the godfathers of punk and their raw brutal garage rock assault went on to influence the New York Dolls, The Sex Pistols, and the Ramones just to name a few.
A good suggestion would be to go buy the Stooges Funhouse or Raw Power and become enlightened and while you’re at it go buy the whole Velvet Underground catalog as Lou Reed is the co godfather of punk as well as being responsible for creating the essence of glam,avant garde, and alternative rock music.
CHEERS!
STRATCAT

Love Eddie , but VH is dead , Michael anthony is going to be out thanks to eddies son. Everyone has to much pride to swallow and say screw it lets drop the trash and just freaking play… I think a rule should also be included as in what have you put out lately? Drink up eddie and smokem while u can your dead in less than 10 your fault…

hey if you’re going to put in pointless bands like Kiss why not a few more votes for an almost listenable group like Blue Oyster Cult or Mott The Hoople. Better yet, let’s get behind the Tom Waits movement before the powers that be offer up the Hollies.

Mott The Hoople were one of the most literate and compelling bands to arrive in the seventies and were a key force in the glam rock movement.
Their self titled album MoTT is a masterpiece of wit and rock n’ roll crunch and their album Brain Capers was highly influential on the punk rock scene.
Their leader Ian Hunter was a rock poet and Mott the Hoople was considered to be a perfect marriage of the roots rock of the Stones mixed in with the wit of a Dylan.
They deserve their place in the hall.
Let’s also give The Replacements a shout out as they contributed ingenious post punk rock glory to the masses as heard in such chaotic masterpieces as “Let it Be” and “Pleased to meet me”.
CHEERS!
STRATCAT

r.e.m. and patti smith. she influenced them, and they influenced scores of bands after them. their DIY ethic took them a long way, the right way. they have never compromised, and that is (should be) the spirit of rock and roll. they never sold out, the world came to them. and the sheer mastery of the music (without showboating) is solid and enjoyable. they did it their way, and continue to do so. if they don’t make it in, i hope dookie is tossed on the stage.

Eddie van Halen, like me, emigrated from Holland to settle in another country, at the tender age of 11. He went to the US of A, moi to the R of Indonesia, R standing for republic. And, Eddie is half Indonesian. Come to Indonesia, I will treat you on chicken satay.

Of the music i like Lou Reed, Tom Waites, Nick Drake, Roxy Music, Joy Division, Devo, Big Star, Iron Madien, Judas Priest, Love, and King Crimson deserve to be in.

Eventhough i am not a big fan of Van halen, Rush, Kiss and Elo i think they deserve to be in there.

Maiden, man, Maiden…

RE: KISS issue
I love what Ace does on Alive! but name other ‘great’ albums that KISS has made.
Destroyer?

I said great albums, not good KISS albums.

I forgot Alice Cooper, he needs to be in

if Kiss cant get in becuase they only have a couple of good albums kick the Sex Pistols out, at least Gene could play bass

Moody Blues, Bernie Taupin

Tom Waits. Really. Tom Waits.

Maiden, Priest, Kiss, Rush, Motorhead, Van Halen, Scorpions, is Neil Young in?

There are so many artist that are more deserving. Who came up with this nomination list?

Here is the elephant in the room.Rap sucks.It is not being creative shouting bout your dick and demeaning women to pre-recorded music.Fuck the hype RAP SUCKS.

Don’t the rules state that for an
artist to be considered for induction into the R.N.R.H.O.F.,it
has to be 25 years after the
release of their 1st album?R.E.M.
are too early-”Murmur” won’t be
25 till 2008.I’d love to see The
Replacements inducted-they’re
eligible now,but I can’t see them
gettin’ their due anytime soon.As
they said so passionately-
“I’m so,I’m so
Unsatisfied”

Who tries to compare the Sex Pistols with Kiss? Really? The Sex Pistols were not only better than Kiss but way more influential. They were the kings of British Punk. In fact Johnny Rotten’s angry letter to the RRHOF pretty much defines what the Sex Pistols were…ANGRY AS FUCK AND 100% PUNK!

Re: Bob
You really have to ask if Neil Young is in or not?

I also agree that Tom Waits should be in there his songwriting is amazing…actually I was just watching Dracula…

The big question for the rock hall is not whether or not a band sucked, but whether or not they were influential…it only really boosts your chances if you were good…which is why Kiss will never be in there…they didnt really influence anybody and they suck

One more…I think once the Tragically Hip are eligible, they should go in…along with Rush, the Guess Who, Run-DMC and the Beastie Boys…yes i said it once they are eligible throw in Run-DMC and the Beasties, they were major rock influenced hip-hop groups and would fit in nicely with Grandmaster Flash

Radio Free Europe was released 1981 that’s why REM’s eligible

1. The Stooges (the fact that Iggy Pop himself is still not in the RHOF is a fucking joke upon the artform of music)
2. R.E.M.
3. Patti Smith
4. Van Halen
5. Alice Cooper

Kiss can get in after Alice, he did in fact do it before Kiss did (the big stage act that is).

Neil Young was inducted in 94 or so.

agreed that Sex Pistols were just average as musicians (this will not be agreed upon by everybody, mind you) but they had that whole ‘impact’ and ‘influence’ thing–unless you think that’s been blown out of proportion. KISS has not had a lasting impact beyond merchandising sales and perhaps only influenced Rivers Cuomo.

P.S.: Weezer in 2015 baby!

Everytime they announce the nominees, I’m very disappointed in who’s not nominated. Where are the Commodores, Diana Ross as a soloist, Kool and the Gang, Donna Summer, the Hollies, the Moody Blues, Jethro Tull, Yes, ELO, Abba, Kiss, the Monkees, Steve Miller, the Guess Who, and I could go on and on and on. Well, if the DC5 get in, the Hollies should too and maybe even Herman’s Hermits. And if Chic is nominated, why isn’t Donna Summer, who in my mind had a much bigger impact on disco. “Love to Love You baby” anyone? The Ronnettes were more or less just a product of Phil Spector. And do you think they should induct Philly Soul legends Gamble and Huff in the non performer category? I think they get snubbed year after year. At least the O’jays are in the hall.

Next year, expect Duran Duran to be nominated as their first album was out in 1982. And no, I don’t think Boy George and Culture Club will make it.

JD’s comment about Gamble and Huff is right on – if Chic were disco’s premier stylists, G & H laid the groundwork for the genre to begin with. Unfortunately, the Hall has been pretty lax about recognizing non-performers in recent years.

As for Donna Summer, hell yeah she deserves to be nominated. I think lingering strains of discophobia have prevented the Hall from recoginizing many of the genre’s practitioners, but come on now – “Disco Sucks” was almost 30 years ago. Get over it. And Summer was certainly no more of an industry fabrication than the Supremes or, lord knows, the Ronettes.

The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame seriously irks my ire when it honors the likes of Eric Clapton, Joni Mitchell, Crosby Stills & Nash, James Taylor, Billy Joel, Rod Stewart, and the Eagles while the following are ignomiously ignored:

Paul Revere & The Raiders
The Sonics
Link Wray & The Raymen
The Pretty Things
The Sweet
13th Floor Elevators
The Them
The Small Faces
The MC5
Screaming Lord Sutch & The Savages
The Troggs
Love
Larry Williams
Jackie DeShannon
Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels
The Buzzcocks
The Damned
The Zombies
The Saints
The New York Dolls

On the bright side, it’s nice to see the DC5 and Stooges on the list! Let’s hope it’s the start of a trend!!!

One more thing – Duran Duran will never get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Won’t even be nominated. I like a number of their songs, but they’re basically fluff. I think Jann Wenner and Co. are smart enough to recognize that. As for Kiss, Dave Marsh says as long as he’s the HoF’s historian they’ll never get in, and I’m behind him 100 percent. I mean, yeah they were significant, not to mention popular, but at at a certain point bad taste outweighs influence, and even this group’s guilty-pleasure hits were a whole lotta nothing. You think the Monkees are gonna get in any time soon? How about Neil Diamond? Heavy metal heroics aside, Kiss comes from the same showbiz-schlock tradition. I mean, gimme a break.

Boy is this comment gonna piss some folks off. But hey, that’s rock and roll.

R.E.M. saved american music. if they dont get in i’d be a crime against music… and why the hell arent genesis or Peter Gabriel in!!!!!

Of course, the real issue here is… Should they be allowed in if they have failed they’re drug tests?

Sean-to avoid gettin’ into an argument with you,I’m with you on
“Radio Free Europe” comin’ out as a single in 1981 and I’m certainly
not sayin’ R.E.M. shouldn’t be
inducted(they deserve to be).When
I’ve read on how artists earn their nominations 25 years after their 1st release,I assumed “1st record” meant 1st ALBUM.I must’ve
assumed wrong.For that-
“I’m sorry”!

The New York Dolls!

Kiss really should get in there. Their first three albums are all very cool. An Alive is GREAT. Best live rock n roll album ever.
If Tom Waits isn’t there, he certainly needs to be as well!
REM goes without saying, as do the stooges. Alice Cooper and Purple? I would have put money on them being there already. The whole thing is mighty fucked up.

I can`t be believe what i read! Where is Kiss. The most influentical band ever! They have made more gold albums in U.S.A. than any other American band. Their career is 33 years old now. They have sold almost 100 hundred million albums! They have idols for so many thousands of bands like Metallica, Nirvana, Megadeth, Pantera etc.The whole Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame is a joke!

This is a better list than last year’s list.

Maybe better, but again where is Kiss and Deep Purple or Rush?

The whole thing is a shame. It is like a bunch of friends have a club called “The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame” and let their other friends join.

Not letting RUSH in is bad enough, but KISS, Yes, ELO and a host of others are not members?!?!? Give me a break.

ELO!!!! One of the most influential bands of the ’70’s. Brilliant.

Sherry, ELO never rocked!

Now, The Move, they rocked!

ef – great list. Sonics, Small Faces. Oh yeah. The Seeds! Chocolate Watchband! MC5! All rockers. Too bad the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is really the Pop Hall of Fame. Wouldn’t it be great if a real RRHF was built? With real rock and rollers?

Patti Smith deserves it!R.E.M. too,but Van Halen sucks!!

If Dave Marsh decides who gets in or doesn’t then perhaps it should be called the Dave Marsh Hall of Fame.

why does WASP get overlooked?? F@CK LIKE A BEAST…. that song alone should get us in the HOF.

i don’t know why rem gets so much praise, their not best in my opinion, but there is alot of other bands that deserve it more.

just don’t spell r.e.m. it;s r.u.s.h.

Chic were amazing, not only as a band, but songwriters and producers to some of the best music ever recorded.

Grandmaster….mayb e in 5 to 10 years

REM…..WHY BEFORE RUSH, JOURNEY/ETC, Because they dared to be different and bring rock to new heights, just like BLONDIE did, that what a rock band is, not a formula like Genesis, Rush, Journey, Van Halen, what ground breaking song or album have they had, that took rock somewhere different.

I agee ELO & Hall and Oates need to be in the Hall of Fame.

Fuck Dave Marsh and all the arrogant baby boomers who think that Rock is theirs and theirs only

that they ignore prog and other “hesher” acts like Rush is elitism

really . . . Fuck Them

Based on the influence they’ve had on various bands, big and small, of subsequent generations, the number of their actual U.S. hit singles nothwithstanding, The Hollies, The Searchers and The Zombies would all are FAR worthier British Invasion-era candidates for induction than are the DC5. And, speaking of influence, when the hell are Love and Big Star going to be nominated?

Keith Sweat
Babyface
Stephanie Mills
Anita Baker
Sade
Teena Marie
The Ohio Players
Rolls Royce
The Gap Band
Hall & Oates

R.E.M. deserve their place although i’m not sure they will want to be voted in.

All hail REM, the best american band from 1983-2006

This causes debate every year, but in reality the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame is just another “box” to put people/bands in. We love our lists and categories and boxes. Anywho, I nominate the following, because I can;
Stryper
Warrant
Bay City Rollers
Black Oak Arkansas
Air Supply

REM’s Chronic Town EP came out in 1982, hence they are eligible. Rules only say 25 years after first record, not album. If their using the same criteria as the Grammy awards, then a single (Radio Free Europe, 1981) could also count.

Hell,regardless of age(the ones i’ve mentioned are around/over forty),they’re still innovators of trailblazing r&b(even if they are/were already or apparently forty or older)

Al B. Sure!
Christopher Williams
Alexander O’Neal
Barry White
Luther Vandross
Teddy Pendergrass
Janet Jackson
Whitney Houston(the year before New Edition get theirs-and ’cause of that EX)
Vanessa Williams
Pebbles
Cherelle
J ody Watley
Phyllis Hyman
Patti LaBelle
Lisa Stansfield
Taylor Dayne
Guy
LeVert
New Edition(as long as Bobby doesn’t act up and focuse on that future prestigious moment,not Whitney)
After 7
Jodeci
Tony!Toni!Tone!
En Vogue
TLC
Soul II Soul
Brand New Heavies
Frankie Beverly feat.Maze
Chuck Brown
Donnie Simpson

How ’bout another dosage of more R&B?Why not?They have(and still)contributed to the game full time:

Jeffrey Osbourne
Donny Hathaway
Mary J. Blige
Lalah Hathaway
LTD
SWV
Xscape

And of course,the L-I-Y-A-H.

If it is call THE ROCK -N- ROLL Hall of Fame, then every band SHOULD BE A ROCK -N- ROLL BAND.

This is what is on the HOF to state whom is eligible to go into the HOF. Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artist’s contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll. Half of the artists in the HOF are neither influential or significant. Like so mary other’s that have posted here The Hall is a joke.

Explain why Stevie Wonder,Earth Wind,& Fire,The O’ Jays,and amomg other soul legends got inducted?In case you forgot(or didn’t notice)rock & roll is the brainchild of r&b.That’s where all the guts,grit,and glory of it comes from.My baby girl Encyclopedia can tell you that for sure mack.

Eddie Hinton. ‘Nuff said.

Flash, R.E.M., Chic, Joe Tex, Patti Smith, Van Halen The Stooges before Jethro Tull, Moody Blues, Deep Purple, and King Crimson? Doesn’t make a whole lotta sense to me…

Definitely Hall and Oates – how can anyone miss them??!!
And to Jym who thinks ELO didn’t rock – Just listen to Do Ya or Sweet Talkin Lady – among 100 other songs they rocked!!

please tell me what was influential about the jackson 5

Snobbery, pure and simple. The HOF hates prog bands.

Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, & Rush should all be in.

It’s time to oust these so-called “experts” who choose the nominees and inductees. There are purposely no standards or criteria so they can induct their personal favorites.Percy Sledge ? Miles Davis? Ritchie Valens? Sex Pistols?–All these are O.K. artists,but definitely NOT hall of fame material!!
Here is a short list of truly deserving atrists who have been wrongly snubbed.
CHUBBY CHECKER- Arguably one of the most popular and influential rock acts in the first 10 years of rock. He triggered a WORLDWIDE phenomenon who inflenced everyone from Sam Cooke to the Beatles. I guess he’s not “cool” enough for the snobs at the rockhall.
THE GUESS WHO- Canada’s all-time #1 rock and roll band, who influenced virtually every subsequent Canadian (and many American)rock groups.Even Robert Plant acknowledges that Burton Cummings has one of rock’s best voices.People who diss them are either unaquainted with their vast amount of songs,or are under 30 years old.
THE MOODY BLUES- They were light years ahead of their time and extremely accomplished musicians.
NEIL DIAMOND- Like him or not, he is a superb writer and showman, who has been producing successful rock music for over 40 years. He also has had a huge amount of chart success over that time.
CHICAGO – Another group who was far ahead of its time. They were the inventers of the “brass sound” copied by many other groups.

Others conspicuous in their absence-
THE DAVE CLARK 5
JETHRO TULL
CONNIE FRANCIS
THE HOLLIES
DICK DALE

The rockhall will never be taken seriously until they start inducting people on MERIT and SUBSTANCE.

.. who cares about the hall of fame? who are this people? who the f*** gave them any authority to say to the world what is relevant in music and what is not? a lot of artist that changed our lives -too many to mention- will NEVER be on that stupid list, so who cares?

Once again, women get short shrift. Where are Linda Ronstadt and Donna Summer on the list? They were the only consistent hit-makers in the latter half of the 70’s, paving the way for the likes of the MTV crowd–Pat Benatar, Madonna and the like.

K R A F T W E R K !

To the Ryan dude who said two words…Tom Waits, you rule.

And yes, R.E.M. should get in. Also, I think New Order is now eligable. Is that just too obvious a choice? Sure, their first album sucked, but 1983-now pretty much made us forget about that.

Plus, if the Sex Pistols got in on the basis of one great album, I think Television should get in there too (and they also had a good album to suplement their great album).

And how about some glam? Are Roxy Music, Brian Eno or T.Rex in yet, or do we still forget about a genre because it’s not played on generic Clear Channel classic rock radio? But let’s be honest people, if Billy Joel made it in, is it really that much of an honor?

Oh, and here’s hoping Sonic Youth get it next year.

The Sex Pistols were right…the HOF is a joke! However, it’s a crime that Roxy Music are not in. They were the blueprint for every band that followed, up until the grunge era, but their influence is now being seen in retro/new wave acts from the Killers to Franz Ferdinand to Scissor Sisters. Viva La Roxy!

FOGHAT is by far THE most underrated and overlooked Artists to EVER play a note of music, PERIOD.

Couldn’t agree more with ps – women definitely get overlooked in rock. While patti smith clearly sets the standard in this class, it’s interesting that Carol King, while more pop oriented, isn’t even mentioned despite one of the top albums of the 70’s and numerous hits for hof types like aretha and JTaylor. And what of Sandy Denny for her work with Richard Thompson (also missing) in Fairport Convention, not to mention on Led Zep’s fourth. It might be a stretch for Ricki Lee Jones or Joan Armatrading, but how about Odetta in the early influence category…

I think they should consider expanding the scope of the place…Do they have a section for best roadie? Best tour “Doctor”. Best Groupie. . Best Hair. Best jump suit. BEST CASE OF FIGJAM? Most Butch? Lead singer least able to dance? shortest attempt at rehab? The ‘How the fuck did these guys have a career?’ award.. other wise known as the’who the hell is buying their records award’ and finally.. most pretentious alternative band. And I think Truimph the Insult Comic Dog should host this particular ceremony.

Ok children, read what Dave said at 3:45 and add ELO and Alice Cooper. How can the Moody Blues be ignored? Dave Clark Five is great, but What about Herman’s Hermits? NOBODY sounds like Jethro Tull. I also second Steve Miller and The Faces, small or otherwise. The Rock hall of fame doesn’t have to be politically correct. You shoul go there and have a great time like I did this summer. Peace.

Gotta give some due back to the hall on Carol King, noticed she did slip in as a non-performer with Jerry Goffen, but what of the greatest genre-bending artist Emmylou Harris (and her buddy the forementioned Gram Parsons).

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame exists so that we can this debate.

Patti Smith
Van Halen
Kiss
Rush Jethro Tull
The Guess Who
The Stooges

Best night ever if you get all to participate.

How about an Early Influences vote for Lonnie Donegan.
Dick Dale should also be in.

i grew up with the van halen machine i say inducted all the lead singers

i hate roth….but i would loike to see roth get into the hall with vh. but if roth gets in so should sam and gary……..lets put them all in

Only REM and Van Halen made the top 20 of this list voted on by rock fans at:
http://www.rateitall.com/ t-2529-deserving-of-the-rock-a nd-roll-hall-of-fame.aspx

H ere are the top 20:
Chicago
Rush
Van Halen
Yes
R.E.M.
Moody Blues
Carole King
Genesis
Doobie Brothers
Dire Straits
Peter Gabriel (solo)
Deep Purple
Alice Cooper
The Cars
Jethro Tull
The Hollies
John Mellencamp
Pete Townshend (solo)
Steve Miller
Metallica

It’s influence over musical merit, and I really have no huge problem with any of the nominees.

REM
Patti
Grand master Flash
The Stooges

and for the sake of the dog and pony show involved…

Van Halen, with Roth AND Hagar.

One word:

KISS

um, if R.E.M. is eligible, then so are Husker Du and the Replacements, I think. They were also much better rock bands, and actually had a bigger influence than R.E.M.

The grunge bands all owe far more to the Du and Mats–just listen.

Neil Diamond deserves to get in more then anybody.He has been around forever,and helped shape the evolution of U.S. rock n roll of the past 40 years.Brill Building rock n roll?he was there
(and his hits of that period,like “Solitary Man” are still heavily covered by today’s rock bands-Sun Kill Moon,Crooked Fingers,HIM,etc)

the Singer/Songwriter movement?Neil Diamond was there,and his albums of that period are certainly risk taking and revolutionary-Tap Root Manuscript one of the first rock albums with an African sound,Hot August Night a sonic masterpiece of live rock n roll.Beautiful Noise
gave props to New York City for a full album before anybody.

then we have new Neil Diamond.His albums of the last 10 years are all songwriting gems-Tennessee Moon,Three Chord Opera,and especially last year’s 12 Songs.

am I skipping the few years that Neil was an Adult Contemporary star?(late 70’s,early 80’s).Yes.But while Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame winners like Elton John and Rod Stewart get softer and softer,Neil took a risk by getting back to his rock n roll roots.There is a reason that you will hear the new Rod Stewart and Elton John on Light FM a thousand times a day,but nothing from Neil Diamond of the last 24 years.

The only band that had two lead singers and both were very successful. Plus the influence of Eddie Van Halen that gave guitar players and Idle to look up too. I say Van Halen is indeed “Hall of Fame” status.

The Ronettes?Didnt they have a few
bubblegum hits during the early 60’s?When was the last top 5,Gold album that Neil Diamond had?last year!

look at the influence that even the 66 year old Neil Diamond has- after ‘12 Songs’-every 70’s singer is losing the electric guitar and calling Rick Rubin to do the stripped down,bare boned acoustic thing.

I’m glad about alternative&punk pioneers R.E.M.,Patti Smith& The Stooges being on the ballot,but the others are a joke.Grandmaster Flash is rock n roll?

I also agree on Neil Diamond! I can’t believe he is not in yet!!

Dave Clark is getting short changed here…they were great and rivaled the Beatles for a while. But why no:
Moody Blues – great prog rockers, and the first 7 albums are classics!
Monkees – helped rock become a visual as well as aural experience. Plus they sang and yes, wrote, some great songs!
Guess Who – Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman wrote some of the greatest songs of the late 60’s.
Badfinger – one of the most talented, and tragic stories in rock history.

catch us if you can for we shall be glad all over when we make bits and pieces while having a wild weekend crying over you anyway you want it i like it like that

Joe Tex, Navasota, TX – My uncle and our family super-star. If anyone deserves the to be introduced into the Hall of Fame, it should be Joe Tex, he represented the state of Texas by using “Tex”, short for Texas. His Legacy continues with his son Joe Tex II, Houston, TX. Check out the website at http://www.legacy-record.com for more information. Joe Tex Rocks… Texas show your love…

Van Halen is most definitely worthy. Anyone who begs to differ, don”t know jack shit about REAL ROCK & ROLL.

I guess these nominees are set in stone so, here’s my opinion. Chic? Weren’t they, like, DISCO one-hit-wonders or something? And what about Grandmaster Flash? Isn’t he a RAPPER or something? Did these people actually have hits, and if so, why don’t I remember them? I thought these are nominations for a ROCK AND ROLL Hall of Fame. Are you HOF folks TRYING to become as irrelevant and out-of-touch as those GRAMMY bozos? Let the Rap and R&B lovers come up with their own hall of fame. Are you afraid of being labelled (YOU KNOW WHAT!) If you’re going to be another one of those outfits that give people awards for selling mediocre records, just STOP! We have enough of that garbage. PLEASE, stop calling yourselves a ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME, if you’re going to include anybody who’s ever sold a record. If we’re nominating anyone who ever had an influence on rock, can we expect COUNTRY and BLUEGRASS nominees in the future? What about CLASSICAL music and JAZZ? Plenty of those old rock groups were influenced by all these genres, at least the ones who are old enough for you to consider for “membership.” If you don’t want to become a laughable joke, you need to give some thought to your mission in life. Who gets to nominate these folks, anyway? You need to allow the public a voice in this too!

Chic – great band for a year or two – NO
DC5 – Not sure
REM – Yes
Ronettes – Yes
The Stooges – Yes
VH – Yes
Joe Tex – Not sure
Patti Smith – Never in a million years – before she ever gets in, they better put Joan, Lita and the rest of the Runaways in first. They at least cared about their audience and you didn’t throw up while looking at them. Patti Smith was useless and I saw her enough at CBGB’s in her hey-day. The RRHoF is a worthless piece of sh*t. Anyplace that has Dave “I know best” Marsch as a spokesperson should have zero credibility. All the above comments have named bands that belong there, Kiss, Rush, ELP, Deep Purple, etc and they are all worthy. But until Alice Cooper and The NY Dolls get in, this honor will always be an empty one. And for the person who mentioned Warrant and Stryper; stop eating the wild mushrooms.

I just saw Patti a couple of weeks ago close CBGB’s. She sucked 30 years ago and she sux now. Gilda Radner did a better Patti S. then Patti ever did.

Ronettes?..Best girl group ever!
Patti Smith?…SUCKS!
Flash?…That’ s (c)rap…er…I mean that’s RAP…
Chic?…Disco shit!
What’s happening to the
ROCK’N'ROLL HOF????

Where the hell is Donovan? If there’s room for John Sebastian and the Lovin’ Spoonful and The Mamas & Papas, there’s a place for Donovan who invented a subgenre of the folk movement. Not to mention “Season of the Witch,” which should merit his entry into the Hall on its own.

Rush not being in the HOF is an absolute disgrace. 30+ years with the same lineup and only Kiss and the Beatles have sold more records. It’s a shame.

And where’s Kiss? Where’s Steve Miller Band? The Guess Who? Deep Purple?

Still Rush baffles me.

Rolling Stone’s Magazine sits nicely into Patti Smith’s sagging tits – they go along together perfectly. But she is no artist of any merit; ever! Putting her in the RRHoF only proves that the HoF has no place in Rock and Roll.

It is totally disgusting that Deep Purple have been so intentionally overlooked. I mean “Smoke on the Water” alone (Not a personal fave but hey) is the single most recognised riff in the world. And what have Grandmaster Flash and all the other dribble to do with R&R?!!

Hmmmmm, seems to me once again, his holiness, ALICE COOPER, has been overlooked. He has influenced and defined rock and roll so thoroughly that it is a sin that he hasn’t been inducted already. This man is a genius, he defined an era and is still dedicated to his music and the industry itself. Not only are his stage shows fantastic, but the music he has made is just as amazing, and has stood the test of time. Shame on you, hall of fame, for ignoring the great Alice Cooper.

Who is paying off who to get a nomination? Each year the list of absentees get more conspicuous. Van Halen obviously belongs in the Hall. I think they figuratively built a good part of its foundation. REM also has a place — if not this year, then sometime soon. But Grandmaster Flash? The Stooges? Who is steering these decisions? There are plenty of bands more worthy of inclusion. First to mind is Jethro Tull… who did Ian Anderson irritate within the nominating committee to be ignored for this long? That is only the tip of the iceberg. Peter Gabriel should be a given. Herman’s Hermits. The list goes on and on. Most of this year’s nominees (and the nominees of years past)are far down that list — or not on it at all.

The Dave Clark Five had a huge impact during the early years of the British invasion, selling over 100 million records over the years, with two dozen or so singles in the Billboard Top 100. A tremendous commercial success, even though some critics took issue with their covering material. Their nomination is just, and their election should be done. Not to take anything away from the other nominees, it is amazing how some of these people end up being considered, and many deserving never do. And yeah, isn’t this supposed to be a R&R HOF???

I heard somewhere that KISS has their own army. Is this true?

Turn on ANY FM rock and roll radio station in this country, and you will ALWAYS hear:
HEART
RUSH
KISS
YES

DOOBIE BROTHERS
E.L.O.
CHICAGO
BOS TON
FOREIGNER
JOURNEY
…ye t none of these bands are in. Indeed, the RRHOF is a joke.

Duran Duran’s first album was in 1981 and they should get in. Anyone who calls their stuff fluff needs to listen to a whole album like the first two and not judge on the basis of The Reflex.

But from that list Van Halen should get in.

This was some interesting reading. And everyone makes a good point for their favorites. But I am both astonished and proud of everyone who said that Patti Smith does not belong. Excellent!!!! Patty Smyth should go before Miss No Talent. I wonder if the boys and girls who have the final say in the R&R HoF actually read some of this. Maybe some of our esteemed Music critics will finally understand that their opinions mean squat. And excuse me, but where is Ann and Nancy Wilson? Why isn’t Heart, Suzi Quatro and Pat Benetar here. I am beginning to think that the HoF only thinks that ugly women belong there. Certainly, if P. Smith deserves a nod, then these far more talented women belong on the list also.

Why can’t they induct more than just 5 to 7 performers per year? At this pace, most of our favorites will never make it into the R&RHoF during my lifetime.

Van Halen is the only influential artist on the 2007 ballot, period, and if you say anything to the contrary you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The most glaring injustice is not having KISS on the ballot. The reasons KISS gets left off year after year is probably due to some prejudices that the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Foundation members have against them. The so-called Rock Hall does not like the fact that 1. Kiss wears make-up and costumes, 2. they have always had the BEST stage show in Rock History, 3. they appreciate their fans, unlike the Rock Hall does. By having Jann Wenner, Suzan Evans and Dave Marsh picking who gets in is the biggest joke and problem with thr Rock Hall. These idiots do not know what rock and roll is and should be relieved of their duties, ASAP. The list of current inductees is a list of “who never was” in the Rock and Roll world – Elvis Costello, The Sex Pistols, The Ramones, The Velvet Underground, The Rascals, Lloyd Price, Dusty Springfield and it goes on and on. When you look at all the inductees 75% of them are people you have never heard of, it’s like it is the Rock & Roll Hall of One Hit Wonders, I guess Kiss, Deep Purple, Rush, Judas Priest, Alice Cooper should have had only one hit because that seems to be the criteria to get inducted.

I read all the comments and for those who don”t know the Dave Clark 5 please listen to their CDs, watch their rare DVD and then pass judgement..the most booked English Invasion band on Ed Sullavain, over 100 million records sold, multi talented in style, music, lyrics . Mike Smith and Dave Clarks rocking in Anyway You Want It with Lenny Davidson, Rick Huxley and Denny Peyton.., thumpin rock..Bits and Pieces, Glad All Over, Cath us if you Can…and well their country style as well in Come Home..a song which is timeless and of course Because…all the other nominees..well lets just say they could all learn from DC5..and oh yes for those that say the Monkees should be nominated ahead of DC5..please they did not even play their own instruments..and Dave Clark was offered the TV show first but had to much class and pride..they were more then just about the money..and finally let the first British Invasion group to knock the Beatles from the #1 spot be recognized for their influence as the first thumpin rock and roll band..and again critics just listen and then know how great the DC5 were..

I’m also a major advacate to get E.L.O. in.

And all the other bands mentioned, whether I personally liked their music or not: Rush, YES, KISS, Alice Cooper, The Guess Who, Journey, Foreigner, Peter Gabriel, Genesis, Hall & Oates, etc. should all be inducted as well.

I keep thinking that these bands will get in eventually. But slowly I’m beginning to doubt that

Van Halen with Roth only. Let Van Hagar wait until 2011 (25 years after the release of 5150) to see if that version of the band would get in. The Dave version would have got in if VH ended in 1985 when Dave left. Not to Say Sammy doesnot deserve it but I would like to see each rendition of the band stand on their own success.

Hey – Charlie Mapleton. Stop doing that crack – it is affecting your thinking. And where the hell is Emerson, Lake and Palmer, T. Rex and the NY Dolls? And to all you people out there who says that Patti Smith Sucks – BRAVO, BRAVO!!! Maybe Wenner and D.M. will nominate themselves next year.

Rush – IGNORED AGAIN!
I’m glad to see that so many of you feel the same outrage as me. This, we all know, is a monumental travesty!
Look…the guys in Rush could probably care less. But we, as fans, need to let them know that they are not forgotten!
(Boycott the RRHoF until they are rightfully inducted).

Okay whats the deal with bands like Yes, Jethro Tull, Rush, Moody Blues, The Guess Who, E.L.O. etc. not getting in? I mean, with the bands that have gotten in recently it makes me wonder if these bands will ever get in. I’m hoping that one day they’ll get nominated but every year that passes i start thinking it won’t happen.

SuZi Quatro were are you! It is long overdue and she has been long over looked.

Come on, there is no reason that The Monkees should not be nominated. Contray to popular belief, they did play their own instruments and some of the finest songs, whether it be straight out garage, rock or country (with a psychedelic edge) were written by Michael Nesmith and performed by The Monkees – plus, they took Neil Diamond’s “I’m a Believer” to #1 in the US, England and Austraila simultaneously.

I can’t believe that there are those who post on threads such as this and recommend Rush, Styx, and a wide array of acts which gave the “album oriented rock” format a bad reputation! Aren’t those who read “Rolling Stone” supposed to possess taste which is much more sophisticated? I’ll allow that those bands featured musicians which were technically adept- but the material that they produced itself was (let’s face it) for the lowest common denominator. The combination of folk, garage rock, and neopsychedelia by R.E.M. was such a relieving alternative to the what many mention above (although I agree that Black Flag, Husker Du, and The Replacements, were just as relevant even if less successful). As for Van Halen- they’re either entertainers or rock stars (but NOT artists).

ugh…having lived through the Seventies I am over-joyed that Jethro Tull, Rush, Yes, andDeep Purple are not in the Hall of Fame. Guess it all depends on taste but don’t think any of them have ANYTHING to do with Rock N Roll. (Can’t believe Billy Joel is inducted…….) Kiss had “Rock N Roll All Nite” and make-up…period..REM and Patti Smith and Stooges…maybe Chic…Grandmaster Flash (not a lot of content there…few great singles)… Van Halen…I guess (but please exclude the horrendous post Dave vocalists)

Donovan

One of the most imaginative Song Writers of the 60’s, as well being one of the decades ultimate flower power children. His music explored the counter culture, highlighting his interests of philosophy, spiritual path and rebellion. He was a consistent chart topper.

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Jethro Tull

From the late 60’s until the mid 70’s there were 2 bands that led what was known has the hard rock movement. There was Led Zeppelin(fuseing early blues with R&R), Jethro Tull(fuseing Jazz,Blues with R&R) and basically.. all the rest. In the early 70’s Progressive Rock hit the mainstream scene(fuseing jazz,classical, blues and R&R), Rock bands used the Arena to go full boar Rock Orchestration, there was Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis and Jethro Tull and all the rest. Jethro Tull is just as important of a band as Led Zep and/or Pink Floyd, why they are not in the Hall is anyones guess. Listen to some of Tulls music from the late 60’s.. and then talk about great musicianship.

3
Tommy James & the Shondells

From the mid 60’s until the early 70’s this group was a tour deforce, During 1968-69 Tommy James and The Shondells sold more single records (45’s) than any artist in the world, including The Beatles. Tommy has had 23 gold singles, 9 gold and platinum albums, and has sold over 100 million records worldwide. Qualifiers? What more can be said?

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The Moody Blues

When voting for induction into the R&R Hall of Fame, the artist/Nominees should have demonstrable influence and significance within the history of the genre. Does anyone doubt that the Moddy Blues have met this criteria? Enough said, by the way … who is surprised that The Moody Blues have not yet been inducted?

5
The Guess Who

Canadadian legends and a group that boasts a string of massive world-wide hits that includes “These Eyes”, “Laughing”, “No Time”, “Undun”, “Share the Land”, “Hand Me Down World”, “Clap for the Wolfman”, “Albert Flasher”, “No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature”, “Glamour Boy”, “Star Baby”, and of course, “American Woman”, to name but a few. All still getting plenty of radio airtime. Now tell me, why have they not been inducted?

6
Blood, Sweat & Tears

One of the first Rock bands to fuse Jazz into the the ears of main stream fans. BS&T has two incarnations, the Al Kooper period, which is the heavier less commercial more jazzy era and then the David Clayton Thomas era, several top 10 songs. None the less, each era was highly productive and worth Hall recognition.

7
Genesis

Genesis enjoyed a long enduring career, first as a member of rockdoms Royal Progressive Artists under Peter Gabriels influence and then a strong shift towards mainstream R&B, under the heavy hand of Phil Collins. Combine the two era’s and you have a highly productive and influential force, a Hall of Fame legacy.

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Yes

The Original Yes of the 70’s, with Rick Wakeman on keyboards was a force to be reckoned with. Like Genesis, a major influence on the progressive Rock front. The group underwent changes in the 80’s to the point where they morphed into a pop band, but later reformed with the original lineup.

9
Electric Light Orchestra

Electric Light Orchestra took The Beatles “I am the Walrus” and built an act around the unique sound of that one particular song. That said, they steered classical string instruments to a new level in Rock & Roll. Their first few albums, progressive in nature, built around complex conceptual songs, layed the ground work for what would become one of the biggest hit making machines of the 70’s. ELO passes all the tests to qualify as an elected member of the R&R Hall of Fame.

10
Supertramp

Supertramp is another one of those Progressive Rock force rooted in the 70’s that get overlooked. This unit, fuseing Jazz and Rock set the world on fire with a series of well recieved Albums from the mid 70’s unitl the early 80’s. What made this band unique was the vocal stylings of their two lead singers, each had his own charasmatic approach.

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Carpenters

Ok laugh and ridicule if you want to, but look at the list of inductees and pay close attention to the R&B artists from the 50’s and early 60’s. The Carpenters stand tall with all of them, if only for Karen Carpenters voice alone, which is in of itself one of the alltime greatest voices of any genre. The Rock & Roll Hall has already set precedent for inducting artists from different branches… R&B, Pop, Country Rock, Metal, Blues…, so the Carpenters, the masters of 70’s AM POP have earned a place.

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Neil Diamond

How does one define Neil Diamonds music, he of tin pan alley song craft? He is a guy that has an impressive history of writing songs for other artists as well as many notables for himself. He has successfully crossed over into several different genres including Rock, Pop, Country and R&B. A long enduring career and his concert tours are still in demand.

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Laura Nyro

Like Diamond, Laura Nyro was a song writing force for others as well as a legendary performer on her own. Lets compare Laura Nyro and her influence on the genre to Blondie … if you know anything about music you know this cannot be done. All you need to do is ask Blondie her self.

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John Cougar Mellencamp

The way I see it, if Bruce Springsteen, Bill Joel and Bob Seger are Hall of Fame worthy, why isnt John Cougar Mellencamp? On a personal note.. I think I may appreciate his music more then the aformentioned 3! Cougar defined the 80’s working class picket fence American lifestyle. Great homespun rock and a great career.

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Dionne Warwick

Im going to use the same logic I used with John Cougar Mellencamp. If Diana Ross, Aretha Franklin and Gladys Knight are in the Hall, where is Dionne? Her legacy is to be viewed in the same scope as these 3. A great voice who dominated the airwaves for nearly 2 decades.

If Humble Pie wasn’t rock n’ roll, what it? I Don’t Need No Doctor!

I should hope that the Moody Blues are nominated before any of the members die. I hope that they then give the HOF a big F YOU!

Face it. As soon as Ricky Nelson got inducted in 1987, this became a pop music hall of fame and not a rock and roll hall of fame. Nothing against Mr. Nelson, but he was a pretty face on a popular tv show who had some nice hits. But really — Hello Mary Lou and Travelin’ Man gets you into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Gimme a break. So lets open it up to the Carpenters, the Bee Gees and those other great rock acts of top 40 radio. But, hey, don’t nominate Jethro Tull – that can’t be rock and roll. A flute? Standing on one leg. Yeah — and playing some of the best creative rock n roll around. So let’s see — Ricky Nelson, yes. Jethro Tull, no. Credibility — no! Hello Mary Lou or Locomotive Breath. What sounds like rock n roll to you.

By the way, for all those who quite rightly mentioned Tom Waits, how about Richard Thompson as well?

Needs to be some more hard and heavy acts in the HOF. Iron Maiden for starters!

Iron Maiden!

The list is out – someone please get me an asprin – Patti Smith and Grandmaster Flash? I am sick! All I have to say is: Where is Alice?

Life
Coast to coast
White hot as a ghost
When you live
In a countdown

Time
Is free as a jailbird
At least that’s what I heard
When you live
In a hideout

Love
Comes cheap at a swapmeet
It all comes so dirt cheap
When you live
In a bedroom

Love
Cuts deep as a razor
But that ain’t amazin’
When you live
In a cancer

Ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ah

Mind
Gets scrambled like eggs
Get bruised and erased
When you live
In a brainstorm

Noise
Seems logically right
Ringing ears in the night
When you live
In an airport

Ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah

Ah-ah-ah
Ah-ah-ah
Ah

Har d hearted Alice
Is what we want to be
Hard hearted Alice
Is what you want to see

Hard hearted Alice
Is what we want to be
Hard hearted Alice
Is what you want to see

Depeche Mode deserve it, maybe next year since they just became eligible. Still today they are better and more popular then REM (who I do think does deserve it). DM got in the Playboy H.O.F. and think if Chic is in, they should definately get there. I also agree with some of the others mentioned on this posting, The Cure, Yes, Steve Miller Band, Rush, KISS. Wow, they ned to get this thing figured out.

Well, I read some very biased opinions and I actually like that artists from all groups and backgrounds have an opportunity at this, KISS was my biggest attraction to RocknRoll and it was more then just an artist and music, it was a movement. Rush and their friend’s UFO were very strong in 70s rock and roll. Foreigner’s class act rock, not to mention Boston were pure unwavering musical rock forces. The music for this honor should always embody the power and reverence of Rock n Roll. Kiss has said on national radio show Rockline that they don’t care about any induction to the hall, they know they owe it all to the fans, ultimately and enjoy that relationship endlessly. UFO rose to great hights in 1979 and then Herr Schenker left the band due to the large audience. Though he’s never comfortable with fame, Michael Schenker is one of the most revered rock guitarists, along with Clapton, Gilmour, Hendrix and Van Halen. -BILL

As an aside, I read thru most of all posts, people saying Van Halen and Kiss have no place in a rock and roll hall of fame and that Disco and Rap does…. As an intelligent human being, what logic dictates that at all!?!?!
Bill

NEIL DIAMOND.

THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME HAS LESS TALENTED BANDS THAN MOST YOU COULD FIND IN A FOURTH GRADE TALENT SHOW.WHAT’S NEXT FLAVA FLAV?

MY CHOICES FOR INDUCTION:
#1 NEIL DIAMOND
#2 OZZY OSBOURNE
#3 ALICE COOPER
#4 MEAT LOAF/JIM STEINMAN
#5 KISS

MUSICAL TRNDS COME AND GO BUT NEIL DIAMOND IS FOREVER!

For the Moody Blues, Sonny and Cher and Cher, not to be in the HOF, shows that something is terribly wrong with the system.

My choices for induction:
#1 The Guess Who
#2 The Moody Blues
#3 Neil Diamond
#4 The Hollies
#5 Chubby Checker
#6 Jethro Tull
#7 Connie Francis
#8 The Dave Clark 5
#9 Paul Anka
#10 Neil Sedaka
#11 Chicago Transit Authority
#12 The Carpenters
#13 Carole King (as a performer)
#14 Kool and the Gang
#15 Dick Dale and the Deltones
#16 Alice Cooper

My choices for dismissal is :
THE CLOWNS WHO CURRENTLY VOTE, WHO ARE RUINING THE R&R HOF !!!!!

Why Del Shannon, and not JOHNNY RIVERS?

NEIL DIAMOND HAS BEEN ELIGIBLE SINCE 1989!FOR HIM TO BE IGNORED THIS LONG IS A SLAP IN THE FACE.HE DESERVES RESPECT NOW,BUT THEY’LL WAIT UNTIL HE DIES AND THEN THEY’LL KISS HIS ASS.

I think the fact we saw a disgraceful and boring induction ceremony the other night proves the point that the hall of fame has no idea what they are doing. Van Halen needed to be respected more than they were by the other night by that audience.

Van Halen did it to themselves…Roth could have been there..Cherone could have handed out the award to them..Alex Van Halen could have shown up…Eddie could have waited til Wednesday to enter rehab. Instead he chooses to go in 3 days before his induction? C’mon…he just didn’t want to face the ordeal of Michael Anthony face to face after replacing him after nearly 30 years with his son. Didn’t want the Roth/Hagar mess…so he pulled an Isiah Washington and says he went to rehab.

Whatever.

They blew a huge opportunity to make the moment one for the books. REM deserves a spot..in about 10 years after many more deserving bands get in. I mean I am not going to make a huge list here…but the fact that Rush is not in there and Patti Smith and REM is not to mention the other artists from previous years who haven’t contributed 10% of the influence Rush has…is a disgrace.

Jann Werner has said that Rush hasn’t contributed anything to rock and roll. I guess he missed the 40 million records Rush has sold worldwide…the #1 DVD’s…the millions of drummers, guitarists,and bassists who got into music because of Neil Peart, Geddy Lee, and Alex Lifeson.

I know the members of Rush themselves don’t care at this point. But it’s kind of like not voting in Tony Gwynn into the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Did he win any World Series rings? No. Did he set hitting records? Yes. Was he consistent and always there when his team needed him? You betcha.

Ditto Rush. They may not be the top selling rock band of all time and they may only put 9-10,000 people in a concert venue now compared to selling out 10-15 years ago…but then again they never sold out to MTV or put their private lives on display.

Rush should be in for everything that they have done and given. If anything..they should be celebrated by the hall of fame for following the rock and roll creed of rebellion and telling everyone to fuck off…we are doing it our own way…like they did when they recorded 2112 and Mercury was giving them one last chance after Caress of Steel was a sales flop.

From A Farewell To Kings to Hemispheres to Permanent Waves to Moving Pictures to Signals, to Grace Under Pressure to Power Windows, to Hold Your Fire to Presto to Roll The Bones to Counterparts to Test For Echo to Vapor Trails to Snakes and Arrows…they have been non-stop with influencing and doing it their own way. Not to mention the live discs of All The World’s A Stage, Exit Stage Left…,A Show of Hands, Different Stages, Rush In Rio, and R:30 Live in Frankfurt….Rush has given the rock and roll hall of fame enough to look over and say…”we fucked up…sorry it took so long…please…come right in”

MY CHOICES:

#1 NEIL DIAMOND
#2 OZZY OSBOURNE
#3 ALICE COOPER
#4 MEAT LOAF/JIM STEINMAN
#5 KISS
#6 DEEP PURPLE
#7 JUDAS PRIEST
#8 IRON MAIDEN
#9 RONNIE JAMES DIO
#10 MOTORHEAD
#11 BLUE OYSTER CULT
#12 VANILLA FUDGE
#13 IRON BUTTERFLY
#14 RAINBOW
#15 RUSH
#16 MISFITS
#17 HEART
#18 DONOVAN
#19 CHER
#20 TOM JONES

My 2008 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Joan Baez
Leonard Cohen
Bernie Taupin
Chicago
Genesis

Only a handful have mentioned Donovan!!!!! Donovan deserves it more then anyone mentioned. He should be on everyones list whether you like him or not. He should have been in since the late 80’s early 90’s.

Rush consists of three members: Neil Peart, Geddy Lee, and Alex Lifeson. Each member is a justified master of their instrument and a prodigy to Rock n’ Roll since the early 1970s. However, the Rock n’ Roll Hal Of Fame has yet to induct Canada’s legends into their hall. The burning question for Rush fans worldwide and rock n’ roll music enthusiasts everywhere is: Why has the Rock n’ Roll Hall Of Fame shunned Rush from hall? Rush has met and exceeded the criteria set forth by the Rock n’ Roll Hall Of Fame. Album sales have been at a ridiculous high since their first album(as Rush) in 1974. Alex, Geddy, and Neil have committed their existence on Earth to the betterment of music. Each member has involved themselves in side-projects and other musical efforts. However, not concerned with album sales, Rush has many 20 minute + conceptual pieces that are considered to be epic by some of Rock n’ Roll’s “idols” and critics. This trio is made up of genuinely good human beings. None of the three legends have any criminal history and were never involved in the normal “sex, drugs, and rock n’ roll” motif set by other bands in the era. They are all people children can look up to for guidance and idolization. Rush has committed their careers to their band, their fans, and their families. Rush, based on the criteria set forth by the Rock n’ Roll Hall Of Fame, has been tragically overlooked and rightfully deserves to be inducted into the Rock n’ Roll Hall Of Fame.

Rush has released 25 live and studio albums, 22 of which, consecutively went Gold. Placing them fourth behind The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, and Kiss(all in the RNRHF). That suggests the point that Rush has sold more gold albums than every other artist in the Rock n’ Roll Hall Of Fame. Of those albums, they have generated only 12 singles, a very low number considering the amount of albums. Why is this? Rush, shunned upon by the critics of rock, find a hard time writing the stereotypical 4 minute songs that get played on radio stations. Unconcerned with the album sales and singles and committed to their dedicated fan-base Rush has released several DVD/VHS concert videos. Known for being unequaled in live performances, Rush showed everyone that there’s a difference from being a good studio band and a great live band through these live DVD/VHS videos. Rush has sold over 40 million albums worldwide. More than %90 of the bands previously inducted into the Rock n’ Roll Hall of Fame. This coming from a band who is entirely unconcerned with album sales and released albums for the sake of their fans not for the sake of fame and fortune.

Rush has always been committed to the betterment of music. At no point in the 34 years since Rush commenced their journey have they ever been concerned with critics interpretations of their music or the financial benefits in releasing an album. Other organizations have recognized these incredible attributes. Rush has been awarded the following Juno Awards: 1974 Most Promising Group of The Year, 1977 Group of the Year, 1978 Group of The Year, 1990 Group of The Decade, 1991 Best Heavy Metal Album, 1991 Best Album-Cover, 2004 Best Music DVD of the Year. Four grammy nominations: 1982, 1992, 1995, and 2004. In December of 1990 Rush won Mayor’s Award at the Toronto Music Awards. This award is the most distinguished of all the Toronto Music Awards. In October of 1992 Rush were recipients of the Harold Moon Award by the Society of Composers, Authors, and Music Publishers of Canada, this being the most prestigious songwriter’s award in Canada. In May of 1993 – Rush is inducted into the Harvard National Lampoon and labeled the “Group Of The Millennium”. In October of 1993 Rush were recipients of the Toronto Arts Award. In March of 1994 Rush was inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame because of their highly regarded and respected status and influential effect on the history of rock music. In May of 1996 Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson, and Neil Peart are made Officers of the Order of Canada. And were the first band ever to do so. In December of 1996 Rush was nominated for the Rock Act of The Year for their Performance Reader’s Poll Awards. In May of 1997, The Foundation Forum and F Musicfest announced Rush the year’s recipient of the Concrete/Foundations Outstanding Contribution to Music Award. They joined a very impressive list of bands including Van Halen, Kiss, Alice Cooper, and Ozzy Osbourne(all in the Rock n’ Roll Hall of Fame). In January of 2000, Rush topped “JAM! Music’s Online Poll”, which distinguishes them to be the “Best Canadian Musicians Ever”. All these organizations, polls, and award ceremonies have recognized Rush and showed the world that they have reached peaks that no band will ever climb to and have accomplished more than the average band. Guitar Player Magazine has awarded Geddy Lee(bass) several awards including: ‘Bass Player Hall Of Fame’, 6-time winner of Bass of the Year and the 1993 ‘Best Rock Bass player’. Alex Lifeson(guitar) has been awarded many times by several magazines: 1983 ‘Best Rock Talent’ by the “Guitar for Practicing Musicians”, 1984 ‘Best Rock Guitarist” by the “Guitar Player Magazine”, and in the “Guitar for Practicing Musicians Magazine” was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1991. Neil Peart, perhaps the most prolific award winner of Rush, has dominated the polls in the “The Modern Drummer Magazine” winning several awards including: Induction into the hall of fame in 1983, just 9 years after joining Rush, ‘Best Rock Drummer” in 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, and 2006, ‘Best Multi-Percussionist’ in 1983, 1984, 1985, and 1986, ‘Best Percussion Instrumentalist’ in 1982, ‘Most Promising New Drummer’ in 1980, ‘Best All Around Drummer’ in 1986( he was voted to the Honor Roll in 1986 preventing him from being eligible for these awards from that point on), ‘Best Instructional Video’ in 2006, ‘Best Recorded Performance’ in 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1993, 1997, 2002, and 2004(all years Rush released at least one album). Every member of Rush has been inducted into a Rock n’ Roll Hall Of Fame in some form or another. All members have won individual awards in magazines and other awards granting opportunities. All members have been highly regarded as masters of their instrument and prodigies to the music world since the beginning of Rush in 1974. However, Rush is greater than the sum of its parts.

Where the hell is Sid Bernstein?

Phil Spector is there! Chuck Berry is there!
Sid Vicious is there! The Stones are there!
The Rascals are there. THE BEATLES ARE THERE!!!

When is Sid’s time. Perhaps the rock & roll hall of fame will consider him posthumously!

What an honor!

ok yeah…here’s my thoughts..

the cerimony SUCKED!
Patti? gimmie a break! she cant sing, she can’t write a decent song…and she looks like someone emerging from the free clinic with prozac and methodone. My chain smoking 87 year old uncle with a flem cough, oxygen tank, and a jersey accent can sing better.

REM? yah ok..maybe 10 or so years down the road..no quam, but just too soon.

Van Halen? HELL YEAH!! love the Roth years best …but sucked that neither He nor eddie could be bothered to show up..leaving us only with two halen-ites to attempt to fill in the gap…PISSED AND CHEATED!

grand master flash and the furious five? hmmm yeah well i dont have a single problem with that actually…in its day rap and hip hop played an innovative roll in music history…today however? its all shi*t! whats next? 5 years from now all the hall of famers jamming on stage to “back that ass up?” the decline to decent music is approaching rappidly..

The Ronettes? very good..love how Ronnie didnt mention Phil (the woman beating murderer) Spector..well done!

oh, did i mention the show as a whole sucked? the closing jam session and you had to allow a (cow) Pattie song? had to turn it off before i became ill.

now…ill get to my point..

where the hell is GENESIS? Um yeah? phil collins? awesome drummer, effective singer, great songwriter…and entertainer. induct Phil and Genesis in at the same time…kill two birds with one stone! might as well do the same for Peter Gabriel…it could be an all genesis night LOL
how ’bout Paul McCartney and Wings? it’s about f*cking time you inducted him in again huh? force paul to stand on stage with Denny Laine again..that alone is worth the price of admission as well as induction!..not to mention it would be a great tribute to a wonderful lady Linda McCartney..who also could sing better than Patti!….

and ya know what? (no doubt this will get alot of BOOS) but why keep ignoring “The Monkees?” c’mon…many hits, many fans..and they still sing and perform better than Patti..

Journey!

Has Prince been inducted?

My probably unpopular choices: Donovan for sure.
The Carpenters-say what you will, but Karen Carpenter was one of the best pop singers of all time
Sonny and Cher-they were completely fresh at their conception and total fashion trendsetters, they should get in before solo Cher gets in.
The B-52’s-nobody like them before or since.
Devo-see the B’s
The Cars-LOVE THEM, especially the late Benjamin Orr as lead singer tunes.
Journey-I know, corporate rock but at its best.

All of the major Motown groups are in, with one glaring omission….THE MIRACLES !!! THE FIRST MOTOWN GROUP!!!the one Motown group that STARTED THE ENTIRE MOTOWN PHENOMONON!!! THE ONE WITH THE LABEL’S FIRST MILLION SELLER , OVER 50 CHART HITS!!! To induct Smokey alone is a travesty, especially since ALL of the group members co- wrote their many hits …. and the OTHER inducted Motown groups, (Supremes, Temptations,Vandellas,etc) DIDN’T WRITE ANY !!!Many of THEIR HITS were actually written by THE MIRACLES!!! They are also the MOST COVERED, MOST INFLUENTIAL MOTOWN GROUP OF ALL TIME!!! How can Jann Wenner’s own ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE RANK THE MIRACLES AMONG “THE IMMORTALS: THE FIFTY GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME” (making them the highest- ranking Motown group in the listing) , and yet, at the same time , EXCLUDE THEM FROM RRHOF INDUCTION? Does that make sense to you ? and , when you also consider how many other artists have recorded their songs (BEATLES, STONES , THE WHO,JOHN COUGAR MELLENCAMP,ARETHA FRANKLIN, THE SMALL FACES , THE HOLLIES,JERRY GARCIA, and many ,many more…. see “the Miracles” in Wikipedia), not to mention the artists who they wrote original songs for,(MARY WELLS, THE MARVELETTES , THE CONTOURS,OTIS REDDING, and lots of others…How can other groups with NOWHERE NEAR THE HITS,AND NOWHERE NEAR AS INFLUENTIAL, BE INDUCTED YEAR AFTER YEAR? R&B ARTISTS , ROCK AND POP ARTISTS, EVEN JAZZ AND COUNTRY ARTISTS HAVE COVERED THEIR SONGS !!! IF NOT FOR THE MIRACLES …. THERE WOULD BE NO MOTOWN TODAY…THEIR HITS ACTUALLY BUILT THE LABEL !!! I SAY, IT’S LONG OVERDUE…. INDUCT THE MIRACLES !!!

I will never go to or purchase anything concerning the R&R Hall of Fame unless and until Yes and Genesis are inducted. The contributions to R&R of these two bands are greater than all the Punk acts inducted heretofore combined.

My guess is that Doug Marsh never learned to play an instrument and, thus, he takes it out on anyone who can.

Steve Howe, Chris Squier and Rick Wakeman have been universally recognized as being masters of their respective instruments.

Name another band that produced such a vast body of work as Genesis. Each individual member has also gone on to produce their own amazing body of work.

I am hoping Yes and Genesis are inducted together, before any members die– wouldn’t that be the concert of a lifetime?

RUSH makes REM look like a child ashley blair is a twit and blondie sucks!

The Rock and Roll hall of fame is turning into a huge joke!! Bands like RUSH, YES and Deep Purple are not in but the list of crap that gets in seems to grow every year. I don’t even care anymore about this lame organization. RUSH has been putting out its original brand of art for almost 35 years with the same 3 guys while always staying true to their craft and their fans. And bands like YES, Deep Purple, Genesis and Jethro Tull are equally deserving. I could say more on this subject but I think that Mike Renner’s post on 04/30/07 sums it up concerning RUSH

It’s easy to discern that 99.9+ per cent of you are utter morons. I have subjected myself to reading the bulk of the BS wherein you pretend to have insight and/or valid opinions into the R&R genre and the many sub-genres thereof, and I have rarely read such a load of unmitigated horseshit from such a plethora of mindlessly underinformed wannabees.

I started listening to Rock and Roll in 1954 at five years of age. I started *playing* Rock and Roll in 1959 at ten years of age. I started playing Rock and Roll *with other people* in 1964 at fifteen years of age. I did the first of my recording sessions *which resulted in a charted record* in 1967 at eighteen years of age.

I have done radio, TV and studio work. I have done world tours and have collected royalties. Blah blah blah. That you haven’t “heard of” me and that you can oink “rock and ROLLLL!!!” is beyond irrelevant. Get your heads out of your asses before you asphyxiate yourselves.

Yours without blandishment,

Mike H.

The 2008 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

Joan Baez
Leonard Cohen
Chicago
Bernie Taupin

Rush should be in no dout about it, in my eyes canadas best band ever.

Dire Straits

Bands from the 80’s (such as Depeche Mode) will not get in the Hall until guys born in the 1960s stop doing the voting.

I accidentally left my house last weekend because my close friend and an Oklahoma native had never seen a Leon Russell concert dared me to put the pedal of my old Volvo to the metal of my and tool on down to the Coachhouse in San Juan Capistrano (a venue with occupancy of about 500 plus margaritas) where Mr. Russell – now in his mid-sixties was performing. The sound mix sucked if you were sitting close to the stage since his sound guy clearly was used to mixing for larger rooms or outside concerts. Truth be told, Leon Russell should still be packing in thousands of fans like he did in the days when I saw him – in L.A., in the 1970’s, when the music industry wasn’t populated by MBAs and stockholder-beholdin’-executiv es. You know, when it was about MUSIC. Anyway, I saw Leon Russell in concert once at the tiny San Bernardino Auditorium (where I’d seen Jimmi Hendrix the year before) and Mr. Russell’s concert’s opening act was a trio – bass player, drummer, and keyboardist Elton John. All and all, and since it was the early seventies so I don’t have total recall, it was a great concert. And so were his albums and so were his songs and, gee golly, his band was so tight… I saw him several times afterward – always the headliner; always knocking everybody’s socks off. So, he’s always been a favorite of mine. Of course, he’s a consummate songwriter and arranger and I knew he’d collaborated with the Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, George Harrison, Edgar Winter, Eric Clapton, B.B. King, John Lennon, Stevie Winwood, the Beachboys, etc., etc., etc.,… (Keyword here: COLLABORATED). After the show, having stood in the back of the room in order to benefit from properly mixed sound and reflecting on the fact that this guy is still an immense talent, I picked up a couple of his more recent albums and, guess what? This man is still an extraordinary talent and I should get out more. Just like another of my favorite bands, Steely Dan (who surprised everyone when they – Donald and Walter – reunited after a couple of decades and the result was Album of the Year (that year – the year after twenty years of separation) at the Grammy’s – that year. And so goes the Eagles reunion and, of course there’s Mick Jagger and Keith and Bill and Charlie who haven’t ever stopped. Point being is that there are a bunch of hip-replacement candidate rockers out there who are still creating, still producing and, in the case of Leon Russell, still danged amazing. I was flabbergasted to discover that this guy has not yet been inducted into the revered Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. While walking down memory lane (not with a cane, like Leon Russell walks with these days) and rolling through thirty year+ songs that I’ve apparently been stuck on in the Leon Russell context, there plays a song from his ‘Carney’ album called ‘If the Shoe Fits’. Leon Russell fans (if you’re old enough), you should listen to it. It’s about some Rolling Stone Magazine folks (definitely NOT the classy P.J. O’Rourke) who camped out and freeloaded at his house for days under the guise of story development. Then I made a connection, what with the very top of the Board of Directors for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation being none other than the founder of Rolling Stone Magazine (who, like many of us Baby Boomers, has morphed into a white guy in a suit). I bought another Leon Russell album online from his record company where I was directed to an online petition-signing effort which is lobbying for Leon Russell’s induction into the RRHOF. So I signed it and received my petition-signing acknowledgement – signor #2120. I noticed the online petition-administrating organization administrates petition signing efforts of all types, but helps the fans of other substantial rock ‘n roll virtuosos get inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. These are the pioneers/explorers/experimente rs of rock and roll. But, many of them remain the uninducted lefthanded stepchildren of the revered RRHOF. Many of us are dumbfounded that phenomenal rock musicians remain inappropriately disregarded as RRHOF inductees. It could just as well be the Sex Pistols as Leon Russell and I’m no Sex Pistols fan, yet I have to acknowledge their pivotal place in music. And even Madonna, a recent big-namer inductee and certainly not undertalented (and I’m no Madonna fan nor am I a detractor), well, anyone should acknowledge Madonna’s pivotal place in rock and roll music history. The same argument can be made for Outkast. REMINDER: the Sex Pistols and Madonna do not a Leon Russell make. But then, neither do the Rolling Stones make a Leon Russell nor does Eric Clapton, nor does Ike Turner or Tina Turner or Phil Spector or… well, in my mind and ears, all these folks do not a Leon Russell make. But that’s to my mind and to my ears and all art is subjective, none any more than music. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, its nominating committee and insider selectivity of ballot-casters – they are not supposed to induct based on subjectivity. They are supposed to be the understanders-of-rock ‘n roll significance and the part individuals with God-given and clearly divined talent (like Leon Russell, not to put too fine a point on it or NAG anybody around here), to repeat: the RRHOF Foundation, well, they’re supposed to be the holy gatekeepers, without prejudice. They’re supposed to remove the currency stuffed into their ears by major music industry players (think, Sony) and listen, not to the Rolling Stones or the Elton Johns or Madonnas or Eric Claptons or not even the Leon Russells. They’re supposed to listen to folks like me and Curt Cobain fans and Steve Miller fans and Hollies fans and to each-his-own fans. We all tap our feet to the beat of different drummers, but there should be no collective foot-tapping by the board members and inductee selection committees. Their job is to march in time – with the times, the times in the fifties and sixties and seventies and eighties (one of the rules for induction eligibility is an artist’s first record must be released no less than 25 years beforehand). Okay, so I’m a little irritated by these groups; the RRHOF Foundation’s nominating and voting groups of nothing other than – and I think this is the technical term – knuckleheads. All under the guise of keepers of the rock and roll flame for which the United States Tax Code grants them non-profit status because their efforts and all charitable-deducting contributions they can raise will benefit the greater good. Whose good? Or, for that matter, what’s good? It’s not for them to say. They should shut up, put their hands back in their own pockets, and do their job. It’s supposed to be about honor and acknowledgement. And as far as my friend, Leon, I want more than the solace of knowing I survived the 1970’s with much of my brain cells intact and am actually aging better than he has (or Mick Jagger or David Bowie, but NOT Little Richard, dangit). I want to believe that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is actually the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (we know the museum’s there – it’s an actual building – finally). I want to know that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has substance and rock ‘n roll savvy and, dare I say it, scruples. But then, I am a child of the (and it pains me to say this) sixties and seventies – in L.A., no less. My generation, we’re whiners and idealists and many of us have “sold out” to Corporate America who has us by the car payments and 401-Ks. But many of us, I daresay, most of us have not abandoned the stuff that sometimes makes us whole and beats in our chests – the Led Zeppelin or Lynyrd Skinard or Stevie Ray Vaughn or Stevie Nicks or Gracie Flick or Al Kooper or Van Halen or Beatles music that connects us to who we were, still are, and will always be. I wanna go home again.

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Why does the industry continue to ignore PAUL REVERE AND THE RAIDERS…? Over 20 chart hits, first rockband signed up signed with Columbia Records, had the biggest selling record in the history of Columbia records at the time “Indian Reservation” hit number one in 1971. Columbia had a lot of great talent at the time (Dylan) I mean these guys were topping the charts during the British invation of the mid 60’s with song they wrote or co-wrote such as; “Just Like Me” “Kicks” “Humgry” “Good Thing”
These songs inspired a lot of Rockers to follow such as Joan Jet and contless of others that really appriciated the talent of this american group of the 60’s
I mean Mark Lindsay on his own would of been nominated on his own talent.
These guys were part of the reason the show “Where the Action Is” was so popular when it aired on ABC in the mid 60’s
Before the Raiders no other rock group was wearing uniforms on stage. After the Raiders there was lots of groups doing it and nobody well even give them credit for that!
Go figure!!

WHat the F*#K, when the hell is Rush going to get into the Hall, I think these half-bit musician wannabes who work @ Rolling Stone and those affiliated with the RRHOF, going to get their heads out of their asses and vote them in. How can you all say they have had 0 influence on music.

I think the Rock-n-Roll hall of fame is bull. Many artist from the 1950’s and early 1960’s did not make it and if it wasn’t for them all the other artist would not have done what they have done. My list of who should be there are as follows.

1.Willie winfield and The Harptones
2.The Five Keys
3.johnny Maestro & The Crests
4.The Duprees
5.The Skyliners
6.The Heartbeats/Limelites
7.Neil sedaka
8.Connie Francis
9.Bobby Rydell
10.The Larks
11.The Marcels
12.The Ravens
13.Lee Andrews & The Hearts
14.The Solitairs
15.The Cardinals

Doo Wop or R-n-B was a major part of Rock-n-Roll what is it forgotten or is it because they did not do drugs. It is sad and I do not support the hall of fame until I see at least these people make it. They are well deserved and it is time. I love music from the 70’s and 80’s but they would not be anywhere with out the artist of the 1950’s. Their memories will go in vein and that is really sad.

RUSH! RUSH! RUSH! GEDDY, ALEX, AND NEIL!!!

Sid Bernstein 2010 should be the year he is inducted into the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame. If the hall waits any longer most of us will be long gone and Rock-n-Roll will be just a snap shot in time of the past days…Like the dinosaurs. Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame wake up and do something worthwhile.