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Comment of the Day: How Much Do We Want to Be Angelina Jolie?

10/20/06, 11:24 am EST

The responses to our post about Madonna’s latest adoption drama got pretty heated yesterday, which is awesome. We chose Scott P’s comment because he brings up another, equally divisive pop cultural question regarding Angelina’s role as the ambassador to all hip humanitarian causes and her influence on the fashion of giving.

In response to a comment re: our suggestion that Madonna support the father of her adopted child, Scott writes:

Well, maybe if Angelina Jolie does it first, so that it looks cool, then maybe Madonna will do it as well. Great point though.

Angelina Jolie is obviously not the first celebrity to spend time and money on causes she cares about, but she might be the most attention-grabbing and most inspiring humanitarian we’ve got in Hollywood right now. How powerful is she? Can Angelina’s behavior influence even Madonna?


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Luke | 10/20/2006, 11:31 am EST

I’m pretty sure Madonna’s adoption has already captured more press than Angelina’s. I don’t remember an AJ “Adoptiongate.”

Jess B. | 10/20/2006, 1:12 pm EST

Well, even if giving charity to Africa is a trend, it’s still charity and it’s still helping someone.

Either way, you can tell that Angelina Jolie is sincere, and I totally admire her for everything she does. If celebrities are going to copy another celebrity, it should be her! Bravo, Angelina!

ejz | 10/20/2006, 1:16 pm EST

International adoption raises ethical questions whether you are Madonna or the great humanitarian, Angelina Jolie.

nikki | 10/20/2006, 1:24 pm EST

maybe people like madonna and angelina should pay a little more atten. to their own country and help the children that are getting left to family and childrens services everyday. then they will good a good humanitarian

Rev. Avalon | 10/20/2006, 1:27 pm EST

Madonna has proven herself to be exceptional at noticing and following trends before they become part of mainstream pop-culture. I’m not surprised that she has jumped on the child adoption bandwagon, especially considering the press generated by Angelina’s new “It’s A Small World” family.

John | 10/20/2006, 1:31 pm EST

Humanitarian help should be something that comes from the heart and the pocket, but it doesn’t give anyone the right to skip bureocracy when it comes to adopting children.

Larisa | 10/20/2006, 1:52 pm EST

I don’t see the issue here. Madonna is probably too old to have children, thus a maternal need irked her into adopting one. And regarding Angelina Jolie – the reason we pay attention to her adoption escapades is because she is hot, and she bones a hot man. It does not matter what “cause” she would choose or not choose. In essence, we just want any excuse to gaze at her lips and her rack. And her husband. Having an issue associated with her name simply gives us a reason to bring her up in the first place.

> | 10/20/2006, 2:16 pm EST

Didnt the material girl just have a kid not that long ago? Yeah, yeah she did

Shauna Mother F@#$*ing.... | 10/20/2006, 2:16 pm EST

Are you kidding me? I highly doubt that Angelina is the mantra on the ’save the world’ adoption processes going on. Madge has always paved her own road. She’ll justify her love to any living soul she wants!

neB | 10/20/2006, 2:17 pm EST

I don’t think it has much do to with “How much we want to BE Angelina Jolie”, but about “How much we want to be IN Angelina Jolie.”

Now, I can assure you, it’s very, VERY much. Thank you.

neB

glennardskynnard | 10/20/2006, 2:31 pm EST

Why does Rolling Stone keep furthering people’s obsession wit this meaningless drivel??? Why?!!!

james | 10/20/2006, 3:08 pm EST

I think madonna is being treated unfairly but we have to remember that she is the world’s favorite dart board. Celebrities are human beings first and foremost not characters in the tabloids. Madonna doesnt need any extra publicity shes Madonna!

pete | 10/20/2006, 3:11 pm EST

We love Madonna.

mawild | 10/20/2006, 3:35 pm EST

why do we care so much on how celebrities spend their money and spread thier love. We should b concerned with what each of us does to and for one another. with our children, in our neighborhoods and communities then we can venture out into the vast world if you r that financially secure.

Anonymous | 10/20/2006, 3:36 pm EST

She feels her album isn’t doing all that well and has to grab the medias attention, isn’t she the person that delayed enrolling her kids in the new school year to take them on her world tour? yeah yeah she is. I never really saw her as a mother figure.

Anonymous | 10/20/2006, 3:37 pm EST

our country has kids that needs homes, everyone just seems to forget about our kids.

Jill | 10/20/2006, 3:40 pm EST

Treated unfairly? no way. she got to skip the whole adoption process becasue she is the godley Madonna that gives money. That is bs and i agree she is just trying to get the medias attention.

Jen | 10/20/2006, 5:51 pm EST

American kids already have a system of care…why prioritize children who have care over those who have nothing? Madonna went to Malawi to help set up orphanges, if she found a child to adopt, fine. Adopting a kid is too much of a responsibility to be a trend or a publicity stunt..some of you just can’t see Madonna as a generous person. As for Jolie, she got in and out of Ethiopia pretty fast, why didn’t anyone call her on that?

hate joiners of mob opinions | 10/21/2006, 1:48 am EST

God bless the child. Why is it so many people have such negative opinion of this adoption? Why is it so few are willing to open his/her purse to help out the needy either in this country or over seas? Ask your inner self what are your qualifications such negative opinions of this adoption?

didier | 10/21/2006, 2:40 am EST

What Madonna does in Malawi (the adoption and the creation of an orphanage for 4,000 orphans)are acts of love for which she deserves admiration. Madonna is not only a brilliant artist, she is also a woman whith a big big heart.

Pat | 10/21/2006, 4:42 am EST

Dear TEEN BEAT, Thank you for the wonderful dicussion on our brightest stars! Next time Please include more pictures of these wonderful human beings who are so Fabulous! (But not so many of those freakin’ skinny kids)

Kat | 10/21/2006, 4:46 am EST

There’s been lots of critics about why Angelina and Madonna chose to adopt children from overseas and not in their country. True – there are kids in need of parents everywhere including US, but let’s not forget that the US being one of the worlds most developed countries has a proper safety net in place for kids and adults in unfortunate circumstances. In the case of Africa and other 3rd world places we are talking about basic survival. Had Angleina not adopted Zahara from Ethiopia she would be dead by now and Maddox (her Cambodian son) would be living on the streets picking food from the dumpsters (that is in the unlikely event he lived to be 5 years old).

So it is really quite selfish for Americans being a world economic leader to stay focused on themselves. If kids are still suffering in the US – then you should question your congressmen where all the taxes go and why isn’t the system better…

Cabir | 10/21/2006, 5:26 am EST

I think Angelina Jolie is perhaps the only celebrity out there I can take seriously because she does what she says she is going to, and is pretty much the best US Ambassador to the world I can think of right now.

Madonna doesn’t quite count and this entire adoption thing by her is quite worn out and tired looking, really.

Watch Angelina in “Beyond Borders”. Now THATS a movie.

dannii | 10/21/2006, 7:17 am EST

angelina adopted Maddox b4 she was hugely famous n no 1 really cared. Beyond Borders opened her eyes n her heart 2 the plight of refugees and humanitarian causes in the world n she made the terrifying step of getting involved. Where everyone else chooses 2 stick their heads in the sand bar a few. Her life has turned around since then so why is it an issue surrounding adoption that is raised and not the issue behind it where childrens living relatives r willing 2 giv up their kids as they r so poor n unable 2 look after them. Also, did Mia Farrow not already start this yrs ago? And i dont c it as a new little dogs carried in a gucci dog carrier craze tho sum do sadly. I love Angelina. She is my inspiration and always has been. Apart from all that scary kissing her bro full on the lips but i guess its hard 4 her 2 aim those bad boys heh heh

Its only a matter of time. | 10/21/2006, 9:54 am EST

No matter how close the media gets to discoving the truth behind any of the issues they raise…for example the madonna- angelina adoption crisis, id like to point out that there are some horrible things happening to this world and if the biggest issue that you can all care about at this moment is whats happening in the lives of these celebrities then its a bit sad. I think the bigger issue is the health and well being of the children thar are up for adoption, not how big thename of the person is thats adopting them.

John | 10/21/2006, 11:15 am EST

What will Madonna do next year if hollywood decides adopting orphans from Africa is no longer trendy?

Gareth | 10/21/2006, 12:41 pm EST

I’m not really clear that this “adopting an underprivileged child from a poor nation” thing is about the kids. Angelina reminds me a bit of the late Josephine Baker, who adopted what she called her “Rainbow Family” of children from all over the world. It ended up overwhelming and destroying her marriage, and she ended up going bankrupt and having to give the children up. The point? She didn’t adopt themfor any other reason than to satisfy some sort of emotional need she had. It wasn’t for the kids, it was for the illusion she was trying to create of herself. It’s interesting how these celebrities can adopt all the kids they want to, but be under virtually no personal scrutiny. If most of us knew how much weed these people smoked on a daily basis, we would be shocked to know that they could adopt kids in the first place. None of us would be able to do so. But then again these are not normal people with normal lives. They do believe they are larger than life, however.

For celebrities, it is more about the public relations image they create than it is having a stable family. If Brad Pitt were truly concerned about having children with an emotionally stable person, he wouldn’t have started shagging Angelina Jolie. He might think about not getting baked morning, noon and night. And he might think about how he is now stuck with an emotionally insecure diva who only took up with him for her career. Elizabeth Taylor much? It’s for a psychiatrist to figure ut.

bp | 10/21/2006, 12:43 pm EST

People who defend Madonna @ this point are sad and misguided. Her career has been in a free-fall for years, so she’s become a publicity seeking fool, even more than she ever has been. I think it’s pretty indicative that she’s sending a paid employee to take the boy cloths shopping, and not taking him herself. Hey, she’s home now, now it’s back to child-raising business as usual: pay someone else to do it, reap the good press when it’s convenient.

Luke | 10/21/2006, 12:54 pm EST

I find it funny people are still accusing Madonna of being an attention whore.

Well, DUH. It took you 25 years to find that out?

But she has proved (especially in recent years) that she does have a heart. Surprise! She’s a good mother. She has a strong marriage. She giving.

Yeah, she’s an egomaniac too. But that’s the essence of why we love her so much and why she is capable to handle so much superstardom without breaking under the immense pressure.

Luke | 10/21/2006, 12:59 pm EST

“Her career has been in a free-fall for years”

BP, you obviously don’t watch sales. Her latest album has sold 9 million worldwide. A 48 year old woman is still outselling the competition. Her career is doing just fine. Especially when you consider she just wrapped up the highest grossing tour for a female artist ever and will no doubt make RS’s rich list next year (maybe at #1?).

denise | 10/21/2006, 4:17 pm EST

Like access holywood said it is hip doing charity now since Angelina …so Maddona wants to be hip I don’t think her frist motivation is to help.Anyway I think she can able to change that boys life … What is next for maddona ? The answer is easy just watch Angelina ….

Eric | 10/21/2006, 5:49 pm EST

For someone who’s career has been in a free-fall, she sure isn’t doing bad by being the highest paid female artist of the past couple years..also, having the highest grossing tour of all time. Not bad!

Francine | 10/21/2006, 8:21 pm EST

I love madonna, love Angelina Jolie more. Adopting kids from third world country always been a trend. After people see Angelina jolie adopt they want to because they were able to see how her life has change. People and #1 fans need to leave Angelina alone. Let her adopt as much kids as she want and just tell her that Francine need to be save too. Angelina Jolie and all of her wannabe continue the good work. Love you so much Angie don’t change.

Ming | 10/21/2006, 9:11 pm EST

I’m in my early 40s and I’m not a Madonna fan. I didn’t like her even when I was younger. However, I’ve been aware of Madonna’s career – how could I not? though not a fan, over the years, I come to appreciate that she’s managed her career so that at 48, she’s still a star when other (think the Spices and others anyone) have faded to oblivion. She does what she has to do to keep her career alive and I don’t blame for her that. Indeed, I respect her for it.

Insofar as her private life is concerned though, she seemed to have settled down. She’s been married for several years now, and if rumours are to be believed, works hard at her marriage – like any normal person. Her children seem as loved as any normal child. I don’t know if adopting baby david was a publicity stunt or not but I have no reason to believe she is not genuine in her feelings for the boy so I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt.

In any case, I have no doubt that this baby is far better off with Madonna and her family. Those of you who say that Madonna should support the father instead, let me just say – some fathers DON’T WANT their children. It’s not about wealth. Some fathers just DON’T WANT their kids. It happens, think of Jon Voight who basically ABANDONED his children until they were old enough to be useful to him. If the Ritchie FAMILY want David, so much the better. I’m sure David will know his family of origin and will make the decision for himself when he is older whether to reconnect with them or not.

Cinnabon | 10/21/2006, 9:44 pm EST

Notice how Madonna had had this money years back, she chose to invest it in Kaballah and turning Southern trashy popstars to Kabballah. Now, suddenly she has the urge to adopt kids. Even if this is not something to promote herself, the thought didn’t occur to her before Angelina did it. Maybe her action isnt the one in question her or even the motivation. Intentions dont make for anything if the end result is crap. Whatever her reasoning was, she gave this child a choice to be in a world and claim it for himself if he so chose. She gave someone a choice and thats admirable. She chose a child to be saved. HWo the fukc cares WHY she did it. she knows she will be under scrutiny if she abuses him or does anything illegal. So, lets not pursue this any longer. let that child enjoy his fortune and be able to pass it on when he can regardless of Madonna and Angelinas intentions.

kim | 10/22/2006, 5:39 am EST

yeah well let people talk if they have the ability 2, as one of the goodwill volunteers working in an orphanage ( In africa) I would say thank god David got a sponsor who can give direct care and help.Despite all Madonna’s riche’s and fame look at the positive side, kids are suffering here and they dont have , or any one who can tell them how much they are loved, just simple things that a normal kid would require, not luxury..Let David stay with Madonna, if he is taken back, who would take care of him and give him all that he could have been exposed to through a mother who decided to give him a better future?? People who are against this are the ones who has never seen the face of this kids , If i was Madonna I would have taken ten if I could afford..

Gail | 10/22/2006, 5:59 am EST

Well, Jolie was single and looking
for a father figure for Maddox.
She also likes substantially
endowed men. She didn’t need him
to further her career.
Madonna doesn’t need media attentiion. Thank God someone is
doing SOMETHING who has the ‘means’
to do so. My criticism falls on
Pitt and that media woman Diane
Sawyer who
went to see a woman dying of aids
who had a stone bed and a small daughter. They went back to see
her 6 months later and she was
close to death and needed someone
to take her daughter. She was
still lying on the same stone bed.
What’s up with that? Where is the
milk of human kindness? They CERTAINLY just
used that woman for media aattention! And that just revulses
me. Sawyer was wearing her sickly
smile when they left and Pitt
just looked unsure of himself like
he didn’t know what he was doing.
what a couple of ja’s! And then
they broadcast that to America.
Why the * didn’t they help that
poor woman the first time they
took all their cameras and lights
into her death chamber????!
They

Laura Macleod | 10/22/2006, 12:03 pm EST

Oh my god, people who say they love Angelina and Madonna or don’t like them – how sad – they don’t know them at all and it is all the hype of mass celebrity that makes people think they know these people. Get a life people out there! These people don’t give two hoots about any of you; they are self seeking egoists with either beauty or Hollywood connections or a mediocre singing voice with a massive talent for self promotion. If they want to adopt it is none of my business – however when people like Jolie lectures the world on how to treat refugeees etc she is talking rubbish. She is a multi millionaire who goes around in a private jet living the life of a greedy spoilt woman. Adoption is the least she can do – she takes so much from our resources!

Jen | 10/22/2006, 2:01 pm EST

This is the dumbest blog ever…Rolling Stone trivialising adopting children. You suck! It’s such a trend only 2 celebrities have done it, and thousands of non-famous Americans internationally adopt every year. Up yours Rolling Stone for trying to turn this into a celebrity trend, cuz you’re framing the issue that way…

Alex | 10/22/2006, 2:17 pm EST

I think what Madonna’s adoption shows is Western ignorance. Rather than finding a parentless child to adopt, she’s got one who’s father thinks this is a temporary sponsorship (see http://music.msn.com/music/art icle.aspx?news=238647&GT1=7702 ). Instead he’s signed all the rights to his child away. I think if one is working in the best interest of the child, the right thing to do is provide them the means to live with their biological parents and family in their own country and with their own religion.

None | 10/22/2006, 8:33 pm EST

It’s simple. Anyone with half a heart sees dying children on TV and wants to rescue them. Angelina and Madonna have the means to make that a reality (quickly, too. My single 28 year old friend has been trying to adopt in Africa for 2 years…) so they can make a call and make it start to happen. People see a luxury car or handbag and say, “I want that”. Some people also see orphans and say “I want to save them”.

Nare | 10/23/2006, 5:33 am EST

Angelina Jolie is the best and I wish to be like here

anon | 10/23/2006, 9:04 am EST

Because Angelina didn’t go through all of the proper procedures to adopt her child from Cambodia all other adoptions in the country were halted, everyone child waiting for a family and family waiting for a child have been left with nothing – that’s what happens when you buy children – some humanitarian …

Marcheline | 10/23/2006, 9:40 am EST

Aren’t people in Hollywood allowed to do anything normal without it being labeled “a trend”?

People scream and yell about stars being selfish and spoiled, yet when even TWO of them (whoa, big numbers!) do something for others, it’s immediately trivialized and labeled “a Hollywood trend”.

If all the rich and famous people in the world gave even half as much to help the poor as Angelina has, there wouldn’t BE any poverty.

If you bashers out there have better ideas than Angelina’s, why aren’t you DOING them instead of complaining?

Put your money and time where your mouth is.

rockstrsbaby678 | 11/28/2006, 3:56 pm EST

i dont wanna be angelina. i wanna be her KID! damn lucky, forgein babies getting adopted by rich people…AFRICAN BABIES ARE THE NEW LOUIS VUITTON. everyone wants one, not everyone can afford one, but they look oh so cute on your shoulder. :]

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