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Panic! Dude Calls Emo “Bullshit,” Discusses Intense Feelings On the Matter

10/18/06, 4:55 pm EST

Everyone needs a pet cause, and this one is going to be ours. We would like to join Panic! at the Disco frontman Brendon Urie in speaking out against the unfair categorization of his band as “emo.” Urie recently told the NME that the “emo” tag is a “stereotype” referring to “guys that are weak and have failing relationships write about how sad they are.” Speaking in between what were undoubtedly breathy, fraught telephone exchanges with his potentially bisexual girlfriend (she just doesn’t know what she is, you know?), Urie vehemently defended the band against the vicious “emo” label. “Emo is bullshit,” he scream-sobbed and perhaps, in a fit of man-petulance, wiped a black tear of running mascara off the ruffled sleeve of his vintage tuxedo shirt. “If people want to take it for the literal sense of the word, yes we’re an emotional band, we put a lot of thought into what we do,” he explained, but added that in no way does being emotional make his band emo. As you can see “emo” branding hurts everyone, so please don’t use the “e-word” irresponsibly. Especially when describing overly sensitive emo bands who insist they’re not emo.


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Jake | 10/18/2006, 5:07 pm EST

Panic! At the Disco transcends “emo.” In fact, they’ve formed a genre that they can call their own: “gay.”

BOB-O | 10/18/2006, 5:13 pm EST

hmm…something about forcefully saying that you aren’t emo makes you way more emo than you were before….emo, emo, emo

Sophie | 10/18/2006, 5:48 pm EST

Urie basically said that his band is NOT emo, but really is emo, but isn’t emo. I wonder if he even comprehends what he said about being emo AND not emo.

Jess | 10/18/2006, 6:14 pm EST

Emo McEmoson.

Space Pen | 10/18/2006, 6:45 pm EST

too bad all their fans are “emo”…now i guess they’re confused?…bad career move

emo or not, they still suck.

jake is right–they’re a new one: “gay.”

anonymous | 10/18/2006, 6:46 pm EST

Well said, Jake. Panic are totally emo and girly.

Rrowr | 10/18/2006, 6:47 pm EST

I’ve never heard these guys but, technically, i guess, teh douche right…in the sense that back in the day, emo was short for emo-core, which was short for “emotional hardcore”, which is what happend when hardcore punk bands decided they wanted to expand their musical/emotional palletes beyond anger (to, you know, include sad)…However! Given the fact that this douche was prolly still in mom’s box when fugazi formed, I’d say he prolly doesn’t know any of the above.

In which case, if we can’t call ‘em “emo” than I agree with Jake and we should just call ‘em lame.

.... | 10/18/2006, 7:37 pm EST

now, now children. let’s be civilized. they’re not emo. they’re scene. dammit, i’ll go so far as to say they’re sc3n3.

Jefferson 63 | 10/18/2006, 7:38 pm EST

All music is emo-tional. Music has far too many labels. I have seen the music that I love most move from punk to new wave to alternative to indie. Only two labels need exist- Good music and Bad music. Don’t let labels keep you from experiencing all the good music that has been, is and will be made.

yousuck | 10/18/2006, 7:40 pm EST

make that hxc sc3n3 and you are correct, my friend.

hullo | 10/18/2006, 7:44 pm EST

yo rollingstone- how about you admit you have a major crush on brendon urie and that you think he’s “lyk OMGZZZZ totally HAWTT”? i’m sure your stories on them are “all about the music” but you just want in his (girl) pants.

Dude | 10/18/2006, 7:50 pm EST

This is like when Bob Dylan says that he never wrote a political song. Just cause he says it doesn’t make it anywhere close to something somwhere near the truth.

grievous pimp | 10/18/2006, 8:38 pm EST

that song tha’s out now is easily the worst thing i have heard in a long time. first band since maroon five that literally make me angry. they fucking suck and should just go away. fucking footnotes.

grievous pimp | 10/18/2006, 8:39 pm EST

they are douchebags and make that other flamer guy from fall out boy seem high quality.
yeah, they are a low rent fall out boy.

mike a | 10/18/2006, 8:40 pm EST

Isnt the TEAR from the MAKE UP hes wearing prove that he is all that is emo. Your emo to the core deal with it

Ryan | 10/18/2006, 8:42 pm EST

“We’re not emo, we just look emo, sound emo, act emo, and deny our emo-ness like our emo fans.”

grievous pimp | 10/18/2006, 8:44 pm EST

fuck – - i miss THE MAKE UP -the dc bands.
some of the best shows i’ve ever seen.

Brian | 10/18/2006, 8:52 pm EST

Don’t you see? It’s totally emo to deny that you’re emo. Denying it just proves that they truly are emo.

i | 10/18/2006, 9:05 pm EST

i love panic! and i don’t think they’re emo.
and no, all of their fans are not emo. i got called emo because i wore a fall out boy shirt the other day, and you know what i did? i laughed. i am definetely not emo.

Jimmy Jazz | 10/18/2006, 9:17 pm EST

What I find funny is that this guy denies his emo-ness, saying the genre’s all “guys that are weak and have failing relationships write about how sad they are.” when early emo bands (Rites of Spring, Embrace) look like Slayer compared to his band. Dude, with the music you play, Emo should be a compliment. But whatever, you missed the initial wave of neo-emo (did I just coin a new term for it?) bands, which means, like all late-comers to a style, you’ll be back working at Best Buy in a few months. Say hi to (hed)PE when you get there.

anonymous | 10/18/2006, 10:03 pm EST

I think being upset enough at being labeled emo, and having a whole diatribe against it, just makes them more emo.

Moni | 10/18/2006, 10:27 pm EST

I have yet to find a modern rock band out there today that is not labeled ‘emo.’ Love ‘em or hate ‘em, Panic!’s music is different from their peers. They are not afraid to take risks and that is refreshing.

hobo mike | 10/18/2006, 10:58 pm EST

me and my freinds all look like clones i must be emo
i don’t jump around when i go to shows i must be emo my parents just don’t get me im lost i must be emo help me i wanna kill myself emo music blows

Jimbo | 10/18/2006, 11:04 pm EST

I remember the good ol’ days when emo bands were hardcore punk bands from the DC area, being brought up under the wings of Fugazi. My how pop culture has twisted it :/ .

Joey E. | 10/18/2006, 11:13 pm EST

it’s debatable if Panic is emo or not, but it is a fact that they suck.

Jolen | 10/18/2006, 11:43 pm EST

how much time do you think it takes him to put on eyeliner?

thats emo

shaggy723 | 10/18/2006, 11:50 pm EST

All I see is another crappy band that has no relevance and will be gladly forgotten within the next year. Really, let Panic think what they want to think for now, their time is almost up.

marnr67 | 10/18/2006, 11:51 pm EST

isn’t emo by it’s very nature, melodrama punk? Is his reaction a bit… hmm, melodramatic?

his denial to his title is like Bush claiming we will have success in Iraq– it typifies the greatest stupidity of the decade.

Republicans and Emo kids, outdoing themselves everyday.

Rrrandy | 10/19/2006, 12:12 am EST

Psshh, I dig panic. But Urie is basically just pissed because emo has so many negative conotations. Emo is like an insult in todays world.

If Emo was something considered to be cool he’d be claiming that shit so hard.

I don’t give a shit if its considered Emo or not, i listen to the music because i like it.

sam | 10/19/2006, 12:21 am EST

if you can’t tell if the dude is a guy or a girl, i think that’s your first clue that these guys are emo

gina | 10/19/2006, 1:00 am EST

so.. what’s teh problem with being gay? being emo or whatever…

JT | 10/19/2006, 1:17 am EST

“Urie vehemently defended the band against the vicious “emo” label. “Emo is bullshit,”
Hahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahah
ahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahah
ahahaha.

Oh god, the irony is so thick in that statement I can cut it with a knife.

VancouverBorn | 10/19/2006, 2:56 am EST

I think Panic! At the Disco have invented a perpetual emo machine!

mike t | 10/19/2006, 7:09 am EST

Whats with all these sappy “oh woe is me” bands? Remember when music was fun and kicked your ass?

Bawrence | 10/19/2006, 7:58 am EST

The only tr00 Emo is Emo Philips.

Bawrence | 10/19/2006, 7:58 am EST

And Jawbox.

Kel | 10/19/2006, 8:15 am EST

Wow, pathetic hack journalists do really stir up some ridiculous exaggerated shit over nothing
When i saw them live there wasn’t barely an ‘emo’stereotype kid there…actually i think their music is the exact opposite, it’s fun and the only mistake they ever made was dying their hair black…
anyone who says they are emo is really just showing their own ignorance..i’m talking to you hack rolling stone ‘journalist’

i hate you | 10/19/2006, 9:15 am EST

forget panic why even give them a chance there no where near as good as a band with that level of success should be. So fuck the music ndestry and fuck panic to.

Oddjob | 10/19/2006, 9:18 am EST

If P!ATD aren’t emo, then there’s no such thing.

Midori | 10/19/2006, 9:20 am EST

Hahaha. Well written article.

Hernandez | 10/19/2006, 9:28 am EST

if you say you r not an emo band, that means you r an emo band

Jason | 10/19/2006, 9:38 am EST

fuck you people have no idea….panic is not emo. jimmy eat world, braid, promise ring…they are emo. My Chem, TBS…they are emo…Panic…are the wave of bands trying to be different, by using up way too much of their labels money, and preying on the unsuspecting preteens who will buy into anything that is market tactfully at them as cool and original…if you want to label them…try commercial synth rock or somthing…but labels dont mean anything do they…

G | 10/19/2006, 9:54 am EST

Weezer is emo.

Anonymous | 10/19/2006, 10:01 am EST

they arent emo though

Anthony | 10/19/2006, 10:07 am EST

They are SO not emo.

lol | 10/19/2006, 11:02 am EST

clearly you guys need to listen to some moss icon and rites of spring before you define emo.

duh | 10/19/2006, 11:22 am EST

what a knob

Erik H. | 10/19/2006, 11:27 am EST

Oh no thats a dude,

Emo!

Angie | 10/19/2006, 11:28 am EST

Emo is a compliment for these guys. He can’t even sing.

cody | 10/19/2006, 11:29 am EST

there is no such thing as emo anymore. panic is dance pop.

grievous pimp | 10/19/2006, 11:54 am EST

Rites of Spring! YES!

pissed off | 10/19/2006, 11:59 am EST

Right, how are panic emo? they wear make-up? so if I said to you so did Alice Cooper, Queen, Motly Crew and David Bowie would you call them emo? Heres one, how can they be emo if they sound NOTHING like Rites Of Spring, Fugazi, Embrace? Same goes for Fall Out Boy. All you ppl that call them emo are lazy and no nothing about that genre. rant over.

Troy | 10/19/2006, 12:22 pm EST

This is such a great thread.

You have 14 year old who were alive when Fugazi were making emo tunes saying they know what emo is.

Then you have old bastards who are angry someone would call poprock, emo.

Then you have people who simply hate Panic for being popular – jealousy is great.

I love you all!

Harry Balls | 10/19/2006, 12:53 pm EST

This band is terrible.

DERP | 10/19/2006, 12:59 pm EST

Who cares what they are, they still suck!

kenny bum bum | 10/19/2006, 1:21 pm EST

sounds like someone’s got a case of boy band denial. by the way, I love love love that video where this pussy singer gets pelted by a bottle ON THE SHOULDER and falls to the ground like he’s been struck by lightning. haha. (youtube it)

p.s. panic at the disco is a perfect example of why modern rock stations suck

jim krablowski | 10/19/2006, 2:20 pm EST

i like that saying “like the band, hate the kids.”

lettie | 10/19/2006, 2:51 pm EST

True stereotypes can be vicious, but someone is in denial.

Bobo | 10/19/2006, 3:06 pm EST

How wearing make-up is in any way related to the genre of music your band plays is beyond me.

fAiThErs | 10/19/2006, 3:18 pm EST

emo is bullshit and it is very annoying to be called that…”emotional”? who the hell isn’t? besides, musicians are SUPPOSED to be epsecially emotional cuz they’re portraying emotions everyday ppl go thru and don’t want to say…still don’t like panic! but hey, whatever, at least they get some good marks in my book…

fAiThErs | 10/19/2006, 3:23 pm EST

but wait, for all you ppl who say “denying that he’s emo makes him more emo”…that sounds like middle school doesn’t it. “hey, she said she doesn’t like you, that means SHE REALLY DOES!”
well then what does it mean when we say yes?
EMO DOESN’T EXIST CUZ EVERYBODY BUT SOCIOPATHS FIT THE CATEGORY!

seeker | 10/19/2006, 4:03 pm EST

Who really buys this band’s music, oh I know, it’s guys that are weak and have failing relationships write about how sad they are. Your band sucks!!!!!!!

awesum guy | 10/19/2006, 4:08 pm EST

panic at the disco is a pure manly band. they are a guy’s band. that lead singer completely doesn’t sound like the biggest wuss ever. I guarantee they dont make out with each other on their tour bus

BOB-O | 10/19/2006, 4:12 pm EST

hey! do you guys ever emo your emo with the emo? man i love a good emo session with some filty emo thrown in for good measure. it makes my emo get totally emo

Sean T | 10/19/2006, 4:32 pm EST

I wish my grass was emo so it would cut itself….

that is all.

abraham | 10/19/2006, 4:59 pm EST

isnt it a bad move to say that when most of their fans are emo.

Nate | 10/19/2006, 5:23 pm EST

lol, Emo is everything, its emotional music, thats what it is, it just so happens that it got caught up in the poppy punk world, I mean Incubus could be considered Emo, so could Dave Matthews, Bob Dylan, Oasis….its anything that has emotion in it…so really everyone needs to take a breather

Fuck. | 10/19/2006, 8:04 pm EST

Elizabeth Goodman is the perfect example of someone who has no fucking clue what she’s talking about. Dont hate on bands like Panic! At the Disco and Hawthorne Heights because they’re “Emo”. Hate on them because they’re no talent assclowns signed to majors and making millions of dollars. In fact, the genre of emo died with the Juliana Theory, and bands like Panic! are simply playing pop-punk. Labeling Panic! emo is just proving that you have no clue about what emo actually is and people like you shouldn’t be writing articles for Rolling Stone.

Rolling Stone is Pathetic | 10/20/2006, 12:10 am EST

Wow, great to see a supposed “music” magazine focusing on the image. You’re that bad at your jobs that you have to take cheap shots at artists just to get readers? Woo, job well done.

How old are you? Seriously? That defaced picture at the top says your professionalism is as valuable as what you leave in your nappies when you don’t get your way.

Its disgusting, I’m so glad I’ve never bothered with this crappy magazine. I’m too busy making assessments on bands by listening to their music the way it should be.

By writing this article, you are stating you must be a genuine music critic but does that mean you’re actually not? The article implies that Urie stating he isn’t emo means he must be. By your logic, go do something with your lives instead of pretending to be a music publication and attacking those who will always be more successful than you jealous hacks.

BOb | 10/20/2006, 6:06 pm EST

emo shmeemo. yeah, emos somewhat of a fad, but it doesnt mean the “emo” music is always bad. it also doesnt mean its always good. talent is talent. bullshit is bullshit. its peoples right to express their opinion on whats talent, emo, or bullshit. i liked the article, and i love panic! at the disco, does that mean i’m emo, an asshole, or right there inbetween?

dk | 10/21/2006, 5:36 pm EST

Horrible article, horrible band. Emo is a subgenre of hardcore punk rock, started in the mid-80’s with bands like Embrace and Rites of Spring. My Chemical Romance, Taking Back Sunday, and Panic! At The Disco share no similarities with this type of music, and it is articles like this that prove sheer ignorance can surely bastardize such terms. It’s sad that petty scenes of pop-punk, post-hardcore, and cheezy metalcore bands can be taken seriously when placed in the same sentence as “emo” or “screamo.”

After the first run of emo bands died off in the early 90’s, Sunny Day Real Estate started an indie style of emo that became more popular through names such as Promise Ring and Texas Is The Reason. It is here that some bands you hear today may be partially influenced by, but in majority just fad.

Emo is a DIY-oriented, emotive style of hardcore. I suggest checking out some modern bands like Orchid, Saetia, and City of Caterpillar and explain to me how they remotely sound like this MTVmo.

lettie | 10/22/2006, 3:52 am EST

There is NO WAY that Incubus, Dave Matthews, Bob Dylan, or even Oasis could be considered emo. Because the lyrics may come from an emotional place within the songwritter and are delivered with some passion (and not robotically static) doesn’t make it emo. Emo also has to so with the melodic style of a song too.

jonny | 10/23/2006, 9:49 am EST

jonny

almendra | 10/24/2006, 9:53 pm EST

who ever called panic emo is gay cuz panic! is the best band ever so dont ever diss em BRENDON ur AWESOME i ove ya

shockcorridor | 11/6/2006, 9:30 pm EST

Uh, dk, how old are you? You need to proofread your history of hardcore, kid.

x.alison.x | 11/11/2006, 8:27 pm EST

IF YOU DONT LIKE PANIC! THEN
THATS FINE;;WHATEVER.
BUT DONT DISAGREE OR CALL THEM EMO.
BECAUSE I OF ALL PEOPLE KNOW FOR A FRIGGIN FACT THAT PANIC! AT THE DISCO IS N O T EMO.
JUST LOOK UP SOME PICTURES ON BUZZNET, WILL YOU. DO THESE PEOPLE
EVEN LOOK EMO TO YOU??
NO!!
IM FED UP WITH THE WHOLE “EMO” CONTROVERSY CRAP!
…i am done.
[and if you DONT believe me;;look for your friggin self!]
GO HERE> http://www.buzznet.com/www/sea rch/photos/panic!%20at%20the%2 0disco/?id=646919&p=1687
NOW.
just say it again.
brendon urie is emo.
just TRY.
2 words:
YOU. CANT.
..my work here is done.

JonDopl | 12/3/2006, 6:32 pm EST

Andre call me ,please ! Or my ICQ – 25634874 .Sorry for offtop о:( .
Regards.

Brandon Flowers | 12/7/2006, 1:00 am EST

I sure hope Panic! are better at telling the truth about there emo-ness than they are at the circle-jerk sessions with fallout boy

felician | 12/24/2006, 4:58 am EST

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meeeeea | 1/12/2007, 9:07 am EST

Panic! at the Disco are the best band going around…and if you actually listen to there music anad lyrics they are most definetly NOT emo

Albert | 2/12/2007, 2:28 pm EST

Help me please I want to find my friends

Denzel | 2/15/2007, 8:55 am EST

Hello moder!

Albert | 3/12/2007, 6:33 am EST

Write any question to my mail

Telfgrarf | 10/14/2008, 4:40 am EST

Hi!
My name is Jessika!

Alexia | 10/30/2008, 6:32 pm EST

i hate branding of any kind, its stupid. besides, any good music is emotional on some level.

JzkdHERvQOlcLn | 2/19/2009, 11:57 pm EST

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Jemma | 5/4/2009, 2:31 am EST

Um you pretty much implied they are emo. They’re not. If you are going to show a view, do it properly. You suck.

frany | 10/4/2009, 3:22 pm EST

well even if they were emo-looking, they arent anymore. definitley..

Jessica | 10/19/2009, 11:23 am EST

Well some of their songs are not really emotional (or so they say “emo”), thou some others sounded like it. Perhaps all of their emo fans should’ve misjudged them by only their looks or some songs that had few lyrics that sounded emotional? however, i don’t like or even care about emo, but punk is an absolute for me.

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