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Bob Dylan: Routine Pilferer of Others’ Album Covers?

9/25/06, 5:45 pm EST

Last Thursday we pointed out that Bob Dylan and Luna both used the same vintage photograph for their album covers. This morning, as we were working on a review for the re-release of Papa John Phillips’ 1970 album John The Wolfking of L.A., a sharp-eyed editor pointed out that the cover shot bears a suspicious resemblance to Dylan’s 1976 classic Desire. The similarities are too numerous to mention. A quick Google search reveals we aren’t the first ones to notice this. What do you guys think the story behind this quirky homage is?


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Sean | 9/25/2006, 6:40 pm EST

Quirky man with a quirky taste, who cares. It’s Dylan. He can do it; many laws don’t apply to him.

Daniel L. | 9/25/2006, 7:37 pm EST

Andy Greene really needs to get a girlfriend.

napaloo | 9/26/2006, 12:42 am EST

talent borrows, genius steals!

me | 9/26/2006, 1:15 am EST

Talk about old news…

scorpio | 9/26/2006, 1:53 am EST

I’m with Sean on this. Besides, Dylan looks sooooooooo much better.

wcjd | 9/26/2006, 3:15 am EST

so what?!

madeih | 9/26/2006, 4:03 am EST

who cares? Dylan is amazing, he can do whatever he wants. Whether he ripped the other guy off or not, Bobby boy still looks better!

Randy | 9/26/2006, 6:32 am EST

Enough already! I’m tired of the constant Internet attacks on Dylan claiming he stole this and stole that. This is getting ridiculous. Don’t you have something better to do with your time?

Luke | 9/26/2006, 8:07 am EST

You forget this is the the mid 1970s. Missouri Breaks era. This was a very common way to dress: the hippy cowboy. I think they look similar, but it prolly is coincidence.

Dandy | 9/26/2006, 8:35 am EST

Isn’t that a John Phillips Mug Shot for possesion in the 70’s?

Chuck Zonart | 9/26/2006, 9:24 am EST

Andy Greene really needs to get a boyfriend.

jim b. | 9/26/2006, 9:32 am EST

ANYONE dylan borrows(????)from is honored by the master

Kell | 9/26/2006, 10:08 am EST

a) art directors select the image that goes on an album cover, not the musicians. That photo of Dylan is one of a series of photos taken by a photographer during a photo shoot and was selected from the group of photos by the art director to go on the album cover. The series of photos show Dylan in many different poses, not just that profile shot. Dylan had little, if any, input as to which photo would be selected to go on the cover. If you’re going to accuse someone of “copying” accuse the art director or the photographer.
b) its very unlikely dylan ever saw phillips’ album cover, he lived a very secluded and isolated life during the time of its release
c)if I had a nickel for every hippy who dressed like that in the 1960’s and 1970’s I’d be a gazillionaire. Phillips didn’t invent the rustic-fur-coat-hippy style, even if he happened to be the first person ever photographed sporting it, which is doubtful.

TCB Walsh | 9/26/2006, 10:15 am EST

Supposedly Dylan’s idea to wear whiteface makeup during this period on the Rolling Thunder tour was stolen from Kiss, so there you go. He’s an equal-opportunity “homager.”

pd | 9/26/2006, 10:38 am EST

is mimicry really the ultimate compliment?

Sunshine | 9/26/2006, 12:22 pm EST

I think people are just out of ideas. Hello creativity.

Dhuge | 9/26/2006, 12:27 pm EST

“Good artists copy, great artists steal.”

Yenrac | 9/26/2006, 12:29 pm EST

It happens all the time, look at the Clash, etc with the Elvis cover, or the Beatles’ own Blue album compilation (originally planned for the Get Back Album) where they copied themselves with the Please Please Me Cover 7 years later….and how many With the Beatles covers are there?

I think it’s likely Dylan was a fan of John Phillips (as I know Lennon and many of the other greats from that era were), especially with the country feel of John, The Wolfking of LA. Dylan probably wanted to pay some homage to Philips, and since John Phillip’s album wasn’t a big seller, it was a nice if unnoticed tribute.

Jeff Greenberg | 9/26/2006, 12:37 pm EST

I produced the new Wolking reissue and can confirm that John Phillips himself believed Dylan knocked off his cover! We considered mentioning it in the Wolfking line notes (in discussing the influence of the album) but ran out of space! John would be pleased to hear some folks out there agree with him!

Sue H | 9/26/2006, 12:54 pm EST

We all come from the same gene pool – so I guess Bob Dylan could be praying what we all pray!!

Pat Smith | 9/26/2006, 1:15 pm EST

Music wise – Rollin and Tumblin? Was this R.L. Burnside’s Rollin and Tumblin, or not.. Burnside takes song writing credit, years ago. Dylan gives no Burnside credit – listen to both. Am I missing something?

rockstar 70 | 9/26/2006, 1:23 pm EST

hendrix ripped All along the watch tower…..I guess Bob can take what he wants too.

cully | 9/26/2006, 2:02 pm EST

What’s surprises me is the similarity of Phillips’s and Dylan’s profiles.

ccell | 9/26/2006, 2:20 pm EST

does dylan need to ’steal’ ideas.. prolly not.. and how did he get the name “dylan” anyhow…

Sanchez | 9/26/2006, 2:29 pm EST

Dylan likely had a Sandwich in the last 5 days, as did I. Remarkable.

Chico | 9/26/2006, 2:46 pm EST

Does anyone know where I can get some good tacos?

sunset | 9/26/2006, 2:49 pm EST

Bob Dylan is my favourite artist. If I shall pick Top 20 albums of all time, 10 of them will be by Dylan – and Desire is for sure one of them. John Philips Wolfking of LA is for sure also on my Top 20 list. I have two Vinyl ex. pluss a CD of that album, one of the vinyls are even signed by John Phillips. But I have never thought of Dylan stealing Phillips` cover art. There are for sure a million albums with the profile of an artist on front-covers. And a lot of them wear hats as well. Coincidence – that`s all. Both are nice covers for two really great albums anyway. Enjoy the music!

Will there be “bonustracks” on the new CD-version of Wolfking of LA?

sunset

Chico | 9/26/2006, 3:05 pm EST

What about my tacos, bitches?

Daniel L. | 9/26/2006, 3:13 pm EST

Tico’s taco’s in Los Angeles.

Deenyc | 9/26/2006, 3:14 pm EST

enough is right!!Can we not just appreciate the fact that Dylan is still giving us great music and touring!! Stop it !!

Chelsea | 9/26/2006, 3:16 pm EST

Just a coinsidence.Big deal,stop wasting time on such sillyness & work on improving your crappy magazine.

Chico | 9/26/2006, 3:25 pm EST

Daniel L., you make my tummy happy.

Waterfly | 9/26/2006, 4:02 pm EST

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Hook the Wunderkind of SM | 9/26/2006, 4:49 pm EST

Jann and I may be the only ones old enough to remember, but in those days Bob had been screwing Papa John’s squeeze, John beat the ‘ell out of him for it, so Bob was thumbing his sizeable schnoz at him. C’mon: Bob, at the time of Desire, had about five mins. to spend on album art, and might never have seen the picture until the album appeared. And these are not the only two hat, side profile, fur coat, scarf shots in R&R, btw.

Ra | 9/26/2006, 5:18 pm EST

Oh, please.

Rowr | 9/26/2006, 5:20 pm EST

Dylan stealing from other artists? We should all be so lucky…

Matthew B | 9/26/2006, 6:00 pm EST

Dylan had been dressing this way, including hat, for several months on the Rolling Thunder Review. The album was recorded between the two halfs of that tour; the photo was probably shot somewhere along the way. It seems unlikely that Bob (or someone else) noted that album cover when the photo was taken. It’s inarguable that Dylan lifts lines and ideas from numberous places, but these cover albums appear to be nothing more than coincidence to me.

jeff g | 9/26/2006, 9:38 pm EST

sunset – the new Wolfking reissue cd has 7 previously unreleased bonus tracks and the single version of “Mississippi”

Emily | 9/27/2006, 12:54 am EST

Thats what folk music is. dylan’s been doing this forever. It’s pretty cool. What’s more interesting is the Alica Keys reference. And as for the same album cover art as Luna, that’s just a cool coincidence. he’s tapped in without even trying. I’d say that’s pretty good. Plus the album sounds awesome.

Dude Skoodle | 9/27/2006, 2:27 am EST

Many great poets make allusions to Shakespeare. Heaps of great poets allude to ancient Latin texts etc etc. Do you think any of the great poets just spins ideas out of thin air? OF COURSE NOT. THE TROUBLE WITH MOST POP LYRICS IS THE LYRICIST HAS FAILED TO BE INFLUENCED BY ANYONE ELSE. The great Robert Johnson took heaps of generic lines and altered their arrangement to synthesise a new blues song.I wish I had the honour of Bob tipping his hat to me. So Bob if you ever hear my album please rip me off.I would not be complaining. Anyway imitators have stolen you blind over the years. I can’t believe people expect the great Bob Dylan to live in a vacuum. The reason he is so great is that he bothers to read people like Timrod. Has anyone noticed that the Gods and Generals video is a “rip off” of the Whitman poem about the man dying in a makeshift civil war hospital? It was called A March in the ranks Hard-Prest, and the Road Unknown. Hey it makes me feel good that our Bard Dylan is not an ignorant fool and reads a lot of literature. By the way most of Shakespeare’s plots were ripped off. I too am sick of our living Shakespeare being hammered by fools about a common and necessary artistic practice.

blitzkrieg | 9/27/2006, 6:01 am EST

everybody must get stoned!!!

tambourine man | 9/27/2006, 7:10 am EST

And have you heard Desire? Isn’t it simply one of the most amazing albums? So why bring up such comparisons of cover pictures? Listen to Dylan and you’d not be wasting your time. He’s God.

Juice | 9/27/2006, 9:40 am EST

Dylan is more of a genius than we may believe or else his manager or whatever> the album cover is fabulous and look it is a topic being discussed right now tell me he’s not a genius at keeping himself in our hearts and on our minds. People who love Bobby could care less how many other covers look like this we just love him and what he has “to say” He has recorded a living journal of his life and experiences. he may have tried to escape Hibbing but as you can see in his heart and mind he will always be the boy from the midwest kind of countryish, yet knows about the city and has come full circle in his music. All his lyrics are so relevant to what is going on in our world today. he should have a revival and just keep on having people listen and maybe see the actions of the very people shaping our lives can indeed be wrong. Dylan’s music will be on this planet as lond as this planet survives.
People are jealous of Bob Dylan. I am just grateful to him.

Nathan | 9/27/2006, 2:38 pm EST

This mag sucks, as evidenced by the above.

dj_bobbybadboy | 9/27/2006, 3:02 pm EST

Both Dylan and RL Burnside got “Rollin and Tumblin” from Muddy Waters, who wrote and recorded it around 1950. I think Dylan uses some of the original lyrics but most of his version contains his own verses.

Eric | 9/27/2006, 11:37 pm EST

Dylan is absolutely great!!! Some people just can’t believe that this “frog-singing-legend” is the best!

ed m. | 9/28/2006, 12:06 pm EST

It’s like the “Seinfeld” episode when Uncle Leo is ripping off a book in Brentano’s bookstore. He’s an old man!!! He’s confused

Will Dockery | 10/9/2006, 4:33 am EST

It’s two profile shots of guys in hats… big deal!


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Sherry | 10/10/2006, 11:21 am EST

Having been there, I can tell you lots of guys looked and dressed like that back then. It was cool.
I often wondered why Dylan didn’t use the inside picture of himself for the cover – it’s much better than the cover shot.

Glenn | 10/14/2006, 11:26 pm EST

I love Dylan, and John Phillips has touched my soul since I was ten years old and first heard ‘California Dreamin’ on my transistor radio. I still am a Mamas and Papas fanatic! Before them, there was the Journeymen- flawless vocal arrangements and musicianship! Wolfking is incredible. The Genevieve Waite album-fantastic! John Phillips was the guy behind all of that variety- all those songs! And Dylan…what more can be said about a genius! Both of these guys are geniuses! Both album covers look very cool! It’s what’s inside those covers, however, that we rock music lovers can all be grateful for.

Leticia | 11/8/2006, 11:47 am EST

“DOWN THE HIGHWAY”-THE LIFE OF BOB DYLAN(HOWARD SOUNES)-Index pg.509,DRESS SENSE.Look it up!

mark | 11/9/2006, 2:39 pm EST

It seems odd to me that this “discussion” is mostly a defense of Bob Dylan. He could have stolen the cover idea–or it could be a nod to Phillips’ album–but that has nothing to do with his songwriting ability. Overall, Dylan is my favorite singer/songwriter, but the Phillips album is great in its own right. While Phillips can’t match Dylan in terms of productivity, influence, whatever, the Wolfking album is up there with Dylan’s best. All you Dylan fans should give it a listen; you’d enjoy it.

John CASEY | 11/21/2006, 2:17 pm EST

Boy! Better call the FBI.

basil | 12/13/2006, 8:39 am EST

Just to mention that Al Stewart released his “Modern Times” more than 20 years ago before Dylan’s “Modern Times” but it doesn’t matter Dylan is Dylan!!

Fred | 1/21/2007, 5:07 pm EST

Good lord, some of you Dylan fans are defensive and/or unbelievably condescending. What the hell? I think Bob is the greatest songwriter in human history, but he’s also a regular jerk like you and me who makes mistakes and steals ideas and pisses people off. Reminds me of a local newspaper reviewer getting flooded with vicious phone calls and emails because he dared to paint St. Bob in a less than angelic glow after a recent concert. This is a fun, silly little post, and some of you guys are acting like it’s character assassination. I happened onto this similarity the same way as the guys who posted it here — I saw the Phillips cover and immediately thought, “It’s the Desire cover.” To act like there’s no way Dylan could have known about the Phillips cover or done this deliberately is disingenuous and silly. (Do you think MAYBE Dylan saw an ad for the record in a magazine? Do you think MAYBE a friend dropped by with a copy one evening? Do you think MAYBE Dylan bought an album or two even during his most secluded years in Woodstock? Do you think MAYBE someone asked for a little feedback from Dylan on his own cover art?) I’m not saying he definitely copied Phillips, but to me it seems a little too coincidental. As for “me” (”talk about old news”), what a shame that every other human being on earth doesn’t have the encyclopedic knowledge of every crumb of rock trivia that you do. We all bow down to your unimaginably superior grasp on trivial crap.

rich | 3/18/2007, 4:59 pm EST

did dylan pick that picture for his album cover, usually it’s done by an art director or graphic designer and if he did, was he aware of the john phillips cover and did he really set out to copy it?…i don’t think so. the whole thing is laughable.
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Mike | 2/20/2008, 2:41 pm EST

Dylan and Phillips were both in the Greenwich village scene in the sixties and knew each other. Dylan definitely knew of this album cover. To think that is a coincidence is outrageous. It is a parody, a homage and that is all. Dylan is a music fan even in his most secluded years. The “art director” in this case did not choose the cover, The photographer Ken Regan knew Dylan and toured with him on the rolling thunder tour, so I think Dylan had a lot more input than some artists might do these days.

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