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Bob Dylan: Joker or Thief?

9/14/06, 4:51 pm EST

Yesterday’s New York Times picked up on an idea that had been floating around the Dylan Pool since late last month: that some lines from Modern Times have been nicked from the 19th century poet Henry Timrod. “More frailer than the flowers, these precious hours,” Dylan sings on “When The Deal Goes Down.” Compare to that this line from the Timrod poem “Rhapsody of a Southern Winter Night”: A round of precious hours/Oh! here, where in that summer noon I basked/And strove, with logic frailer than the flowers.” At least six such other similarities exist. Of course, this isn’t the first time Dylan has been accused of borrowing lines from existing works. His last album, 2001’s Modern Times, took many lines from Japanese author Junichi Saga’s Confessions Of A Yakuza. In fact, an entire web page exists that matches Dylan lyrics to old movies and TV shows. Empire Burlesque, Dylan’s 1985 album, is littered with old Bogart lines. So where do you stand: Is Dylan a lyric thief, or just part of some grand literary tradition of appropriation?


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Daniel L. | 9/14/2006, 5:17 pm EST

So Bob Dylan gets inspiration from other artists. Isn’t he one of the most sampled artists of all time? Hey Andy Greene go read your Jewel and Billy Corgan poetry books and try to come up with an article of similar boring concept.

Andy | 9/14/2006, 5:25 pm EST

Actually, Dylan’s 2001 album was called “Love and Theft”.

I think we can safely say that there’s more going on with Dylan than simply stealing, or borrowing, lines. There’s no doubt he is, but there’s a method to the madness.

B-Man | 9/14/2006, 5:33 pm EST

My vote is for the latter.

M | 9/14/2006, 6:13 pm EST

Part of the folk tradition is using parts of old songs and either reinterpreting them or using them as a jumping off point to create something new.

Plus all this discussion about Dylan’s influences turns people on to their artistic product.

Rrowr | 9/14/2006, 6:45 pm EST

All the other folks are right on…listening to any Bob Dylan song/album is the equivalent of a pop culture onslaught. The album Highway 61 Revisited, for example, references Shakespear, the Bible, Napolean, the Circus, Freak/Side shows, the blues tradition, other folk songs, F. Scott Fitzgerald, the emerging rock counter culture…and that’s without even listening to the album.

Dylan’s not shy about this either, many of the titles and some of the melodies from his last couple of albums refer directly to other songs.

Its definitely in the folk tradition and, arguably, it is also the sign of a great master to refer to so much else in his work and yet to remain distinctly Dylan.

sam | 9/14/2006, 9:38 pm EST

Aside from anything else, Timrod is long dead so his verse is in the public domain – so really there aint squat anyone can do about it.

nick | 9/22/2006, 6:04 pm EST

william s. burroughs used to cut up newspapers and rearrange the words to create “art”. Sounds like b.s., but he was a genius in his own right. Dylan is just getting old and he’s the first to admit he’s not as astute as he once was. He called some of his earlier work (Bringing it all back home) an act of chanelling words of a higher power, like he didn’t know where the words came from. I was amazed to see how closely his Love and Theft lyrics matched the Yakuza book. It’s kind of sad. But I love that album, there’s a difference to the words, any words, when they come out of Dylan’s mouth.

jonny | 9/24/2006, 1:44 am EST

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Walter Emmet | 10/6/2006, 12:08 am EST

Dylan is a master of words and of
rhyme. Music and song are a product
of inspiration, be it of people or
the work of people. And maybe in the
title love and theft he was referring
to his theft of ideas and his love
for those ideas.

CGEffect | 10/10/2006, 4:51 pm EST

Should I get mad that Tom Petty and Lou Reed copy his singing style? I think it’s cool.

www.heatherjeane.com | 10/10/2006, 10:51 pm EST

well anyway. Guess who drove by yesterday? That green van that’s been stalking me since before 911? and then the “female” with spainish blood, drove by, had a million dollar smile You know the one? Used to forget to tell you anything except that you’re a jester, a joker. Great song by Bob Dylan much later though. Goerge Bush incidentally, well, she feels his government and policy, endorses her stance completely and totally. Identity theft is involved too. Rupert Murdock as well, the new magazine Alpha? oh she did that too. Gentlemen prefer blondes.

John | 11/2/2006, 10:31 am EST

Apropos Dylan’s ‘borrowings’, see also http://www.from-the-centre.blogspot.c om

John | 11/2/2006, 10:34 am EST

Oops… Sorry…
That URL should have been:
http://www.from-the-centre.blo gspot.com

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