What about health care reform? How big a blow is Tom
Daschle's departure to getting universal coverage for all
Americans?
Getting access to affordable, quality health care in our country is
a very high priority. Our committees are just chomping at the bit
to get going on it. Tom Daschle was a person who was uniquely
qualified — I use the word "uniquely" very infrequently
— to move this along in a substantive, strong and expeditious
way. He knows this issue, and it's not just an intellectual pursuit
for him — it's a passion. It's unfortunate that he will not
be there, but the resources to get the job done are still there,
and I know that the president will have other good choices to
honcho this initiative. I'm hoping the president will include this
in the budget, so it will clearly signal that it's a first-year
priority. We're ready, because many of us have been fighting this
fight all of our political lives.
The administration's plan for the bank bailout seems to
give a lot of rope to the very same fat cats who wrecked the
economy in the first place. Aren't Democrats running the risk of
becoming the target for the public's anger over corporate
abuses?
The public is very angry about the whole rescue package for Wall
Street. Your question is best answered by quoting Barney Frank. He
says, "We talk a lot about collateral damage, but sometimes there's
collateral benefit, whereby doing the right thing for the American
people and the economy enables some people to benefit who we don't
want to benefit." I think what Treasury Secretary Geithner is doing
versus what Secretary Paulson has done is night and day in terms of
transparency and accountability. This is a complete turn away from
the course of action that took place in the Bush administration.
It's two different worlds, two different approaches, and any
resemblance between the two is just collateral benefit. We'd rather
they didn't benefit, but we have to do the right thing for the
economy.
[An aide enters the office to tell Pelosi that the Senate has just approved the stimulus bill by a vote of 61 to 37. She turns to watch the news on TV.]
Isn't this interesting? We can't get Mel Martinez [the Republican senator from Florida]. And Mel Martinez is retiring. That's amazing.
[The news shows Obama promoting the stimulus package at a town hall meeting.]
Did you see his press conference last night? Wasn't it the best thing you ever saw in your life?
It's a relief to have a president who can string words
together.
Presentation, content, confidence . . . I thought it was really a
tour de force. It was interesting, because he used every question
to make a speech, but he wasn't defensive. I thought it was great,
and I'm pretty objective about these things.
In your role as speaker, is there room for you to be
more partisan? After all, you enjoy a commanding majority in the
House, unlike Democrats in the Senate.
I'm speaker of the House, so I try to be speaker of the whole
House. But I'm also the top Democrat in the House, so I have a
responsibility to have the Democratic view prevail. I try to
incorporate Republican ideas, but not when we're talking about two
different views. In our stimulus bill, we had a strategic mission
as to what we wanted to accomplish — to create jobs —
and everything fit into that. The Republicans were just taking
shots. That's why nothing worked for them. In the end, I believe
the Republicans were true to their beliefs: They believed in the
failed Bush economic policy.
From Issue 1073 — March 5, 2009
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