How cooperative was Courtney during the making of this
book?
She was very cooperative. Completely hands-off. Her only direction
was "make sure the material is in good taste, don't put things that
are ghoulish, and don't put things that focus on the darkness."
What did you come across that might have been considered
in bad taste?
The only thing that there was a debate on was the X-ray of Kurt
that is reproduced there. There has been some debate about Kurt's
drug addiction and how much of that was his own fabrication and how
much [was the result] of the physical problems that he wrote about
— they literally showed up in the songs, there are lines
about how his bones hurt. So this was not stuff that he kept to
himself. The fact that he still had an X-ray that showed that he
had scoliosis as an adult, that to me was fascinating. Kurt kept
all this stuff. He didn't get a report card or a note from the
doctor that he didn't stash somewhere.
What other photos really stood out for you when you came
across them?
The pictures near the end of the book of Kurt and Frances. He took
so many pictures of himself and Frances and every single one of
them breaks your heart to look at. There's a picture where Kurt is
sitting in an overstuffed striped chair, and Frances is sitting on
his lap — it absolutely sent a chill through my body. What
really struck me, and I've seen thousands if not hundreds of
thousands of pictures of Kurt before, but these are not pictures
you would see, normally. These are pictures of a family, not Kurt
Cobain. There's also a picture on there towards the end that,
again, just absolutely slayed me. It's a picture of Kurt lying in
this iron bed, kind of in a fetal position. And Courtney told me
that that was her favorite picture of Kurt. And it's so beautiful,
it's so him. And yet at the same point it's so sad, so harrowing,
so haunting, and so innocent — it's all caught up in
there.
What's fascinating to me is you can see the stuff in the
periphery of these photos.
There were some debates about what to put on the cover. I really
like the picture of Kurt in his Olympia apartment. Basically
everything is there: you've got the Visible Man poster on the wall,
you've got these little tiny beetle figurines glued to a speaker.
But all the stuff on the wall, or in the periphery as you say
— this is Nevermind. It's right there. All the
elements end up in his work. That's the room he wrote "Smells Like
Teen Spirit" in. It's Picasso in his studio, to a degree. It's Bob
Dylan at the house in Woodstock.
When did you first meet Kurt?
Well the magazine that I was the editor of, The Rocket,
wrote about the very first single, and I knew [Sub Pop founder
Jonathan] Poneman and knew the band when they were on Sub Pop, but
I don't think I met him until seeing them in early shows, in the
late '80s. You know it's funny, I know Novoselic far better. He
would come into our office and basically say, "Will you write about
our band?" Everybody thought he was the leader of the band.
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