Where is the archive collection?
An "undisclosed location." And it literally was at an underground
bomb-proof bunker that Bill Gates stored his stuff in. When I first
went to visit it, it was the first time I my life my retina was
ever scanned. It was like James Bond. The week Kurt died, Courtney
had the sense to tell someone "put all this stuff away," and it had
all been boxed up and never opened. I think I was the first person
to open these boxes — and I cannot tell you how freaky that
was, to open up a Rubbermaid container and inside were Kurt
Cobain's board games that had been put away.
He was amassing all of this stuff over the years but
moved around so much, so how were they able to keep it
all?
Well that was one of the things that amazed me. If you read
Heavier Than Heaven and you know a little of Kurt's
history, he was homeless after he recorded Nevermind. But
that didn't mean he wasn't a major collector. He had a bunch of
crap, he basically carried these boxes around everywhere. Most of
the stuff in the archive was bought after he got famous, because
when he got money, he started buying stuff. The basement of the
last home he lived in, which he only lived in for three months,
there was something like 80 boxes of stuff in there that — a
lot if it was Kurt's junk. So that stuff, after he died, was moved
into this archive and never touched.
There are only a few of Kurt's paintings in the book.
Why include so few?
Many of the paintings are three-dimensional and multifaceted, and
there was just not a way to reproduce those in any book that would
do them justice. At some point, there will be a gallery showing. He
would take a porcelain doll, and then paint something on it —
maybe blood, maybe paint, I don't know — and then glue his
own hair on these dolls. So to be in these archives and holding
this stuff, to literally have pieces of Kurt's DNA falling off me
as I held it, just blew me away.
Would you say that the Chim Chim monkey is the most
valuable piece of memorabilia that he's left behind?
I wouldn't — there's several Chim Chims. There's the one
pictured on Nevermind, but Kurt had so many of them, and
the names occasionally changed. One of my favorite pictures in the
book is that page where we stacked like nine monkeys. But you know,
there's another 30 of them that we couldn't picture. It's almost
impossible to describe how obsessive Kurt was over monkeys,
anatomical models, you know the things that he was obsessed by he
was obsessed in a large degree.
Why was he so interested in these things?
Well, that's a question for Dr. Freud. That was the theme of the
things that he was interested in, fascinated by birth and death and
feces, elimination and sexuality. And these things show up in his
songs. I think people forget how many songs are about masturbation
in Nirvana's catalog. Certainly there are some about suicide, but
there's more about masturbation. I'm not sure why he was obsessed
with the monkeys. And ironically, you know that's one of the
reasons that this is still fascinating for me, having spent
numerous years of my life writing about him, I still can't
completely figure it all out. He was such an odd character that
that's one reason I think we're still talking about him.
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