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You have been in Metallica for your entire adult life.
Have you ever felt restricted?
I made myself feel restricted: "I'm tired of arguing. I'm not gonna
argue for another five hours about something little and stupid. You
win. This is Lars' band. When I'm able to be me, it'll be the side
project, the solo thing." Which is just ridiculous. Every band that
I've known that has done side projects or things like that —
I don't respect them anymore.
There are very strict parameters to life in Metallica.
It's like joining the Army.
The metal militia, dude! We've all discovered there is freedom
through structure. There has to be some structure in my life, at
least. I think Lars has discovered that a lot. You could look at
Jason [Newsted] as the sacrificial lamb. I didn't want him doing 12
side projects: "You're in Metallica." But it was so unconnected
when he left [in 2001], so compartmentalized. But now, Metallica is
the four of us. This is our solo project. This is the best way to
get our emotions and feelings out and touch people.
Was there a clear leader in the beginning? You or
Lars?
There were leaders in different ways. There's no doubt Lars was the
spearhead of wanting to get a band together. But I was the same,
and we joined forces. Lars had the name. I had the logo. He was
more the business guy, the thinker. I'm much less of a thinker. And
there was his personality, the only child growing up in a pretty
well-off family.
A well-off bohemian family.
Yeah, getting to do what he wants, anytime, anywhere. The negative
side of that, somewhat obvious — spoiledness. But the
positive side of that is he can get it done. He has the faith he
can get it done. There are times when I think all of us follow his
energy. There's fear at times. I can see it in him, when he feels
like he's not getting his way. We always revert to our teenage
years [laughs].
Have there been moments you can point to when it's not
about being bandmates or Metallica against the world, but just two
guys who share an emotional moment together — without
embarrassment?
When it's just him and I, easily. The obvious one was me coming out
of rehab — trying to talk to him, one on one, where I've been
and need to go, what I'm feeling. There are times when he's gone
through rough stuff as well. You forget all the shit. The armor
gets taken off. You sit down and . . . [takes a deep
breath] There were even times long before that. Lars would get
himself in trouble in a bar, and I'd step up and get him out of it
or protect him. Yeah, the little brother with the big mouth.
[Laughs] Depending on who it was, I'd let him sort out
some of his messes himself.
When you came back from rehab, you had to reconnect with
both your family and the band. How hard was it? In a sense, you had
to do it twice.
My whole life was duality: Here's my life at home, here's my life
on the road. Keep the family at home, because they don't want to
see what's out there. Eventually they had to get to know each
other. Yes, they are two separate things. It's no secret. We get on
stage, and we're our alterego. We are the person we want to be:
strong, in control, singing to the masses. At home, at times I'm
not even heard [laughs]. But they have to live together,
and they do — pretty well.
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