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You have been working on the new Metallica album for
almost three years. How do you know which riffs and solos to keep
and which to throw out?
I know whether I'm cutting it or not. And I always try to make a
solo the best it can be. I recorded over 100 solos for one track on
this album — and the solo is only 25 seconds long [laughs].
But it's apparent when the solo works that it's all there. It's
either "Wow!" — or it's not good enough. It's that
black-and-white.
How would you describe your role in Metallica's
two-guitar sound?
James [Hetfield] and I have always been complementary. We've never
gotten into guitar squabbles, like a lot of bands with two guitar
players do. His approach is primal — rhythmic and percussive.
Mine is more technical and fluid. I see the guitar as a bunch of
scales and tones. I write riffs and arrange chords to make sure
they fit tight harmonically.
On a lot of the albums we did in the Nineties, I was doing orchestration, looking for something that fit over a certain part to make it more exciting — a texture, a chord, a little lick here, a chug there. We've strayed from that. We've gotten back to the one-voice guitar thing we did in the Eighties. The album we're working on now is about Metallica as a single thing — a locomotive coming to mow you down.
Is there a solo on the early albums that was a
breakthrough in your playing?
When the other guys heard the solos on "Creeping Death" and "Ride
the Lightning" [both on 1984's Ride the Lightning], it was a
different aspect of soloing than they were used to. [Original lead
guitarist] Dave Mustaine played fast all the time. I play
melodically. And I play parts, different sections that make the
solo as hooky as possible. Although I've always been very flashy. I
admit it.
How did you write the riff in "Enter Sandman" [on 1991's
"Metallica"]? It's up there in instant recognition with "Smoke on
the Water" and "Whole Lotta Love."
My friend has a guitar store, and there is a big sign in there that
says no "enter sandman" [laughs]. Soundgarden had just put out
Louder Than Love. I was trying to capture their attitude toward
big, heavy riffs. It was two o'clock in the morning. I put it on
tape and didn't think about it. When [drummer] Lars [Ulrich] heard
the riff, he said, "That's really great. But repeat the first part
four times." It was that suggestion that made it even more
hooky.
You were 15 when you started playing guitar. That seems
late, given that you grew up in San Francisco, a great music town,
and had an older brother with a lot of records.
In the late Seventies, 15 was early. I learned by playing along to
records hundreds of times. The first one I learned to play decently
was "Purple Haze." I remember playing to "Dazed and Confused" from
[Led Zeppelin's] The Song Remains the Same every day, trying to
learn the whole half-hour version. That was a riff dictionary. But
the second I heard "Mother Mary," by UFO [on 1975's Force It], my
whole attitude toward the guitar changed. Their guitarist, Michael
Schenker, wasn't playing blues-based solos. He was playing modes
— scales that sounded almost classical — and
rhythmically he was out the door. To this day, UFO are my favorite
band in the whole world. I was playing "Doctor Doctor" [from 1974's
Phenomenon] for my one-and-a-half-year-old son. He went crazy.
Where is the Hendrix in what you play with
Metallica?
I make it a point not to be too obvious about it. I touched on it
in "For Whom the Bell Tolls" [on Ride the Lightning] — the
whammy- bar craziness at the end. Hendrix had a lead tone like
nobody else, when he was full-on with the Marshall amps, the
fuzztone, the wah-wah and the Uni-Vibe [phase pedal]. When I heard
the Woodstock album, I said, "I want my guitar to sound like that."
But when he stepped on a fuzz box, it was to drive a statement home
rather than just bring a mountain of fuzz down on people's heads.
Hendrix always had a purpose.
How would you describe your tone, especially when you
solo?
I like a clear, singing tone that isn't overly fuzzy. I like
distortion when it's within the tone. And I'm in love with the
wah-wah pedal. I sometimes feel like I overdo it with the wah-wah,
but I don't care, because it makes me feel good. I try not to step
on it with the beat but sweep with it, very slowly, through a part
or a solo. I like the unpredictability of it. It's hard to do a
wah-wah track the same way twice, because your foot will always be
on a different part of the beat.
Is there a limit to what you can express on the guitar
with Metallica because of the band's intensity and
fury?
It's important not to stray too far from that. But in my spare
time, I play a lot of jazz and blues. I listen to Tal Farlow, Kenny
Burrell, Elmore James and Buddy Guy. One of these days, I'll do a
solo album that is very rounded, as far as styles of guitar. I was
thinking once: What am I going to do when I'm 70 years old and I'm
sitting on the porch with a guitar? Play "Seek and Destroy"?
[Laughs] I love riffing on UFO songs for half an hour. But then
I'll lean over to the amp, switch to a clean channel and play some
bossa nova or Robert Johnson.
Can you bring some of that to Metallica? Or is that just
not going to happen?
Metallica — the name says it all.
[From Issue 1054 — June 12, 2008]
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