Were your parents concerned about your behavior as a
kid, to the point of taking you to a doctor?
You're asking, "Were there early warning signs of Iggy Pop?"
[Laughs] Not at home. But in the third grade, I had a very
stern teacher, Mrs. Bordine. I don't remember what I did, but in
front of the class, she tied me to my chair with red twine. She
tied it around my trunk, arms and legs -- for a significant period.
I must have been fidgety that day. But were my parents worried?
No.
I always felt that in rock & roll, something's gotta happen. I liked that word -- happening. If it wasn't going to happen in front of me, I was going to make it happen. I actually tried not to repeat myself. They say it was Stiv Bators [later of the Dead Boys] who handed me the peanut butter [during the Stooges' famous, nationally televised set at a 1970 festival in Cincinnati]. "He's strange, we'll give him peanut butter." That wasn't in the repertoire. But people started bringing it to the shows. I was like, "No, I'm not gonna fucking play with your peanut butter." I got involved with stuff that had some corny overtones. But I was never a corny thinker.
You have an unusual background by Detroit
working-class-rock standards.You grew up in a trailer park, but
your father was a college-educated high school English
teacher.
My parents had been shocked and impoverished by the Depression. It
made them careful and frugal. At first, as a teacher, my father
made no money. So he got the idea of living in a trailer park. The
rent was a dollar a day for the plot. I slept over the dinette, on
a shelf. We were definitely the only college-educated family in the
camp.
Once I hit junior high in Ann Arbor, I began going to school with the son of the president of Ford Motor Company, with kids of wealth and distinction. But I had a wealth that beat them all. I had the tremendous investment my parents made in me. I got a lot of care. They helped me explore anything I was interested in. This culminated in their evacuation from the master bedroom in the trailer, because that was the only room big enough for my drum kit. They gave me their bedroom.
Are there aspects of your father in you -- as Jim or
Iggy?
Yes. Nobody's going to tell me what the fuck to do. And I don't
like bullshit. Also, I like quiet -- less people around as opposed
to more. He was that way.
And your mom?
She was unusually generous and nice to everybody, a person who
sought harmony and equality in situations. I have some of that. I
don't function well when there's conflict. I'm very
nonconfrontational. People use "confrontation" a lot to describe
what I do professionally. But that's one thing. Life's another.
When did your parents first see you play with the
Stooges?
We did the Michigan state fairgrounds with the MC5. They sat in
the grandstand. I had a fairly wild gig -- things thrown back and
forth between a couple of audience members and the band. I saw my
parents later and asked them about the gig. My dad, who had played
some minor-league baseball, said, "You remind me of young pitchers
I used to coach -- lot of speed, no control." But my mom didn't
want me to feel bad. She said, "When everybody stood up, your dad
climbed up a pillar, so he could get a better view." He was at
least interested.
So they were aware of what you got up to
onstage.
Oh, yeah. I did a show in the town where my dad taught. I broke a
bottle over the mike stand -- I thought it looked cool. One girl
who was particularly demonstrative in the front got a couple of
minor cuts from the glass. She was holding her arms up in the
spotlight. Blood was dripping down; she was screaming. There was a
little ruffle in the household over that, because it was written up
in the paper: POP GOES THE BOTTLES -- BRING BACK ELVIS. But nothing
worse came of it. It was somewhere in the petty-infraction
zone.
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