Doesn't it get scary when you start counting your years
backward instead of forward?
Yeah, and you realize this music is going to be here a long time
after I am gone. So I want to really put everything I can into it
and make it as good as I can and get everything in me out.
Do you feel that there are things that you haven't
gotten credit for as an artist?
As successful as [the Heartbreakers] have been, part of me thinks
we have also been taken for granted to a degree. Maybe that's
because we have always been consistent. We don't really make bad
records, though some people might like some more than others. And
we have never really done a bad show. So I think in a way maybe
we've been taken for granted. I think maybe if we were gone, God
forbid, there would be a different take on us. Because this group
is really the last link to that whole California thing -- to the
Byrds, Buffalo Springfield and that whole era of music that came
along. This is probably the last thing that attaches to that.
Was it hard to recover from losing Howie
Epstein?
The band has a good family atmosphere that wasn't there for a
while. It came back about a year or two ago. I think when [bassist]
Ron Blair returned, it really bonded us back together in a weird
way. If he hadn't been there, I am sure it would have been the end
of the whole thing when Howie died. It was kind of cosmic, in a
way. Had we looked into putting a new person in the Heartbreakers,
I would have just walked away. It wouldn't have been a band to me.
I think we all knew that this is the end of it. And Ron stepped in
and had this huge enthusiasm through the whole thing. When he first
quit, he didn't quit the band, he quit the whole music thing. He
was fed up. But we were all young boys then. When he got interested
in music again, he started playing with Mike [Campbell,
Heartbreakers guitarist and producer] quite a bit, and so he was
just there when we needed a bass player for the last two tracks we
did for The Last DJ.
Are there any plans for a new Heartbreakers
record?
I have got a lot of music, I tell you. I have a good sixty percent
of a Heartbreakers record just sitting there waiting to be
finished. I feel pretty musical at the moment. That's why I want to
stop going on the road for a while after this, because I want to
get all these projects done. Time is precious these days.
What are the other projects?
The Heartbreakers one is going to be a big one. We also have a
live album we have been threatening to do for years, and Mike
Campbell is actually producing that. So I think that will probably
come out a year from now. And then, beyond that, I want to reform
Mudcrutch [his original Seventies band before the Heartbreakers]
and do a record with them. That would be fun, more of a
country-rock kind of thing, which is where we came from. But
whether I can convince them all to do it or not, that is the
question.
Which of the guys do you think would be
reluctant?
I think it's just a matter of personalities. Like Randall Marsh,
the drummer, would be essential to it. But I haven't seen him in
years. I did play with him probably four or five years ago at
Mike's studio. And he's a really good drummer. But I talked to Mike
about him, and he was like, "I don't really get along with him."
And it was right as I was about to say, "Why don't we do the
Mudcrutch thing?" So I decided not to bring it up right then
[laughs].
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